>yfw he starts shooting his crossbow at you while doing a

In the few times I've come to /v/ for the past 24 hours there's been a new Gael thread each time.

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>>375711963
>yfw he wants your Dark Soul

>>375712121
The same way there's a new Persona or Zelda thread every five minutes.

Some people just want to talk about games they liked, and so far, even diehard DaSIII haters agree that Gael is the best bossfight From has made so far, which makes him interesting to discuss.

>>375712164
>yfw it's for his lady's painting

bump, Gael needs more love

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>he pulls himself through space with his own white soapstone sign

>>375712439
Gael and the ringed city were total disappointments, what are you talking about?
Don't put words in people's mouths.

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Mfw

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Fighting Gael was better than any day of my life when I got to work. Thanks based From.

>>375713984
Kys, eu faggot

I beat Gael on LSD, AMA

>>375713592
honestly this boss as the best design ever.

>>375713984
Ringed City is literally the best DLC with Old Hunters, and Gael is a flawless masterpiece and the best ending the souls trilogy could have.

>yfw you realise his cape would have been pure bullshit to fight against if he didn't cut off pieces of it to guide us through the dreg heap

>>375714428
How much LSD and did you like the second part of the soundtrack?

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>>375715432
>guide us through the dreg heap

He also guides you through the ringed city mate.

>>375715916
A real human bean, and a real hero.

>play dark souls
>final boss is from bloodborne
They ruined it.

>>375713592
DUDE

>>375711963
Wait, so he is Orphan? Haven´t tried the DLC yet, but looking at the trailer, I get a bad feeling of recycled bosses,

>>375716270
He has similarities to some bosses but I wouldn't say he's recycled. The thing is, there's only so much you can really do with humanoid bosses so it should go without saying that some bosses will have similar fighting patterns.

The first phase of Gael is a definite throwback to a very well known boss though. No disputing this.

>>375715432
Ringed city is only good for its bosses and 1/2 of them are shit (Spear and Midir) and 1 is only OK (lmao2demons).
Gael suffers from the poor arena design that undercuts the actual fight and the shit combat mechanics of DaS3 trivialize his fight because of roll spam being the best way to avoid all of his attacks.

In terms of its level design and enemy placement Ringed City pretty shit.
The 3 Ringed knight enemy types are interesting, as are the Harald Legion and the Cleric turtles but the ambush hollows are just too forced, especially since they debut after another zone in this game to have another variant of the same 2 hollow slaves.

>>375716645
>The first phase of Gael is a definite throwback to a very well known boss though. No disputing this.
Vordt?

Why couldn't we use Midir's blood for the pigment?
>>375716751
>Vordt?
it's clearly the blind hero from DeS

>>375716270
Yes there are many similarities.

Gael is Orphan on steroids and Blackflame Friede is Lady Maria on steroids.

DaSIII basically took the best parts of all souls games, added a more fast and visceral combat of BB that still fits perfectly the DaS gameplay and just focused on individual level design and kino bossfights.

>>375717042
>Why couldn't we use Midir's blood for the pigment?
Ariamis already went forward in time and stole that the moment we killed him, it's why his painting is so bloody huge compared to the scrap that was the painted world of Ariandel and what painter girl was making for us

>>375716751
>trivialize his fight because of roll spam being the best way to avoid all of his attacks.

So what do you want? Tank build like DaS1 where you can literally trade hits?

>>375717331
No but I also don't want combat where you can just not have to time your rolls as long as you chain them together or combat that is designed around that ability.
Just look at this webm and the associated rollspamming fuck >>375713592

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>>375716751
>Roll spam

I will never understand you whiners. The game has become significantly faster, so you need to roll more, meaning you have faster stam regen.

Unless you mean rolling in general out of attacks is shit combat mechanics, which I'll say get the fuck out

>>375717641
You're forgetting one thing.
Yes, you can roll a lot, but on the other hand, rolls have less iframes and each roll isn't OP as shit like before, enemies are smarter, deal way more damage, are way more aggressive and eat your stamina when you're blocking way faster. They can also delay their attacks making you fail some rolls.

I like it, it makes the game more brutal, and allows every playstyle to be balanced. And since there are many other tweaks to overpowered things in DaS, the end result is much better.

Just like you might not like and complain about poise. It's not better or worse, it's just different, and some people like it more that way. For me, hyperarmor>memeshit havel builds.

>>375718546
>hyperamrour>memeshit havel builds

I kinda agree with this although you have to admit that poise is non existent. I like the changes they made but it seems like they completely took poise out.

I have a level 135 with 67 vitality so I can do a smoughs cosplay. I also have the wolf ring +3 which I know has diminishing returns but this is about as high of a poise value as I can get. Despite all of this, I still get staggered by straight swords unless I use perserverance. Shit is retarded.

>>375719108
but thats wrong maybe play with ugs poise is better than ever and straight sword are total unviable right now.

>>375719269
I play with smoughs hammer. Would've thought it would be one of the best in this regard

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>>375717651
DeS
>carefully time roll to avoid getting hit

DaS
>carefully time roll to avoid getting hit

DaS2
>carefully time roll to avoid getting hit

BB
>carefully time roll to avoid getting hit

DaS3
>spam roll until enemies 10-chain attack combo has ended

>>375719631
Close, but.

DS2
>carefully time roll to avoid getting hit, but get hit anyway

But I fully agree with the DS3 point. Very few bosses seemed like it was really about timing rolls and not just rolling all the time.

>>375719108
>>375719269
>>375719432
First, straight sword aren't unviable, there is no unviable build, never was.

Second, every armor piece has a poise value, and every weapon has a poise break value. DaSIII is the only soulsborne game where I did pvp for more than 5 minutes, and I noticed that the heavier the armor, the more hits it takes to stagger you, and the bigger the weapon, the less hits it takes to stagger someone.

Dagger/short swords and relatively fast and light weapons will need a lot hits to stagger a heavy armor, but a gigantic UGS or hammer will need less, and this just makes sense. It's the same for pve, enemies and bosses have somewhat realistic values for hyperarmor, and light weapons will only stagger small unarmored humanoid enemies, while gigantic weapons will stagger everything except a few bosses.

>>375719881
Just level ADP. I know it's a dogshit design choice and you shouldn't have to do this shit to make the game playable, but if you just sink the first few points into that, it actually elevates the combat in DS2 to some of the best in the series.

But yeah, I really disliked 3 overall. I don't have anything against fast-paced combat, in fact I'd say BB is the best in the series, but DaS3 just felt ridiculous, they tried to make every fight CUH-RAZY and they're mostly all clusterfucks of roll spammin away trying to find your bearings. It's sad because some of the bosses rank among the best of the entire series, but most are just not fun at all.

>>375713984
No it's not.
Don't put words in people's mouths.

>>375720324
>Just level ADP. I know it's a dogshit design choice and you shouldn't have to do this

I cannot understand this logic. Dark Souls is a RPG, you make choices, and it makes perfect sense to increase agility if you want to be more agile. That's literally the same as saying "uh what? I have to invest in strenght and dex in order to carry weapons and deal more damage? Bullshit, my damage should increase regardless of my level distribution".

And people act like you have to dump every point you have in ADP when having 30 is more than enough, 35 if you're really bad.

>>375715432
TRC is a garbage DLC with the worst areas in DaS3

>>375715432
Two hits but spaced out, one at 7am, one around noon. I fought Gael in the early afternoon, around 2 or 3pm. I went in blind, I really enjoyed the music and his transformations were awesome. The skull effects coming off of him was a little distracting. My biggest issuse was his first phase because the distances were really hard to judge. For his 2nd and 3rd phases I stayed close to avoid his machine gun and turtled his hits with a black knight shield+4

>>375721564
Part of the problem is that the animations don't change to reflect the increased iframes, the other part of the problem is that how your hitbox updates seems to be wonky and will stay behind for a short period of time when coming out of your roll.
Hitboxes are still mostly good in DaS2 outside of that issue and several niche cases since gestures and your attack animations do cause accurate updates of your hitbox.

I've never understood everyone whining about tying your rolls to a stat since DaS3 does the same thing with the Bloodring, it's just tying your rolls to a stat and making it blindingly obvious to even an inattentive player that it fucks up every once in a while that's the problem.

>>375721667
Not and argument. Let me guess, you think AotA was good?

>>375723881
>I think stealth sections through almost entirely linear corridors and swamps/ash fields connected by ash fields are interesting
>This staircase has so much depth, look at all the walkways that go over it and sidepaths and secret entrances I never want to leave it and the clusterfuck of enemies that inhabit it because the next area is another fucking swamp

I hate how the dlc focuses on some stupid faggot and his retarded dragon niece, such a waste

>>375722684
>7am
now that's hardcore

>>375717324
Do we ever see the painting that Ariandel is inside of? As far as I remember Gael just kinda warps us there.

>>375725012
He's holding a scrap of the painting in the cutscene.
No real idea how big Ariandels painting actually was.

Any anons want to help me farm proof of concord,im on ng+ lv162

>>375712121
It's a shill.

>>375725442
>the second you talk about a video game on a video game image board, you're a shill
Never change neo/v/, never change

>>375726167
Dumbass
>>375683591

>>375713592

Am I the only one who doesn't lock on in these games? It's really obnoxious to see the camera move chaotically when the enemy moves. I always not lock on, and manually adjust the camera as needed.

>>375726602
Well it depends on the encounter, I do both.
100% locked is retarded but 100% unlocked isn't very practical either

>>375727724
>but 100% unlocked isn't very practical either

I never have a problem with enemies. The only issue are humanoids who can backstab.

If they just gave us the ability to backup without locking on, I'd use that.

Lock-ons are a hold-over from the days before 2nd analog sticks. They should go away.

>>375713984
The Ringed City is my favourite Dark Souls.

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>>375713592
This literally just looks like Orphan fused with DaS3's shitty 10 hit wombo combo rollbait moveset

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>Trying to kill this guy underleveled with +6 weapons so I can keep invading people
>Everything went well until he pulled out the crossbow, and using that disc spell
>Then he started fucking teleporting with soapstone
>mfw

>>375719631
>BB
>carefully *dash

>>375729095
>misstime dash
>take a shitload of damage because damage is multiplied after your i-frames end

Yes.

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>>375711963
>mfw