I don't get why isn't she a main character, such good

>>375694504
she's not a good character design. She's just the same hime cut girl as a million other characters. Just because you fetishize one particular generic design doesn't make it good.

also she's boring and needed as little screen time as possible, so making her a confidant was the best thing they could do other than cutting her from the game completely

Haruka Tomatsu a shit but Haru is too cute.

>>375694504
she's boring and her design is boring desu

>>375694504
You must be underage if you find her Yamato Nadeshiko design the most appealing one of the thousand other iterations.

>>375694504
I would replace Haru and Makoto for her.

>>375694628
>saying this while worshipping a Mikoto clone
The irony.

>>375698859
>>375699217
>IP list didn't increase
is that you OP

>>375694504
This post would have made more sense if you attached a picture of Iwai instead of yet another waifu bait.

>literally a background NPC with the only identifiable trait being her red ribbon
>it's a good and unique design guys!!
???

>>375699323
That's how shit the others are.

>>375699282
The problem with that is it'd get awkward screaming about how shitty adults are if one of the party members is an adult

>>375699356
if you have such a low opinion of the cast you shouldn't be playing or caring about the game

>>375699356
Hokay
But really though I don't get why people make such a big deal over her. She's literally your standard inoffensive white bread nadeshiko archetype but with chuuni shit tacked on that only shows up for a few lines (yet somehow overstays its welcome despite that) and has absolutely no real impact on her character.

Is it just because she was a party member in the absolute earliest stages of development? Who gives a shit; she was removed for a reason: she's boring garbage.

>>375699368
well the big descriptor SHITTY adult means the adult is shitty

there are still COOL RESPONSIBLE Adults like the confidants

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Some idiot will defend this

>>375697009
this

>>375699452
You're only assuming she would have the same character if she was a thief which is obviously wrong considering how much character development each member get before joining, something that won't happens for a Slink.
But even in this state she has more going on than Haru and regardless of what anyone says she is one of the most most appealing character in the game from a design standpoint.

Her chuuni isn't tacked on, it's a leftover of what her battle lines would have been with her Persona. She would also have been the group's strategist, which would have fixed some of Makoto's mary sueness.

>>375699765
This entire post is pure speculation. We don't know anything about her incredibly short time as a party member. Even if you were correct, who cares about what COULD have been? What matters is what we have now, and that is a boring nothing of a character.

>its another 123fag who thinks that she should have been part of the main cast when the idea was axed very early in development
Her entire character is basically
>Im a chuuni
>no wait, I'm actually just a boring girl on the inside rather than on the outside
Pair this with her generic yukiko design and she's only marginally better than ohya and that's because of her autism during the first few ranks of her confidant. When she gets into her mommy troubles then it's getting more meh by the minute.

>>375699892
>This entire post is pure speculation. We don't know anything about her incredibly short time as a party member.
We don't even know that she ever was a party member. She doesn't appear in the art book as a party member.

>>375699765
>which would've fixed Makoto's mary
sueness
And what? Transferred all of it to Hifumi? No thanks.

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>>375694504
Well, no one asked you.

Hifumi reminds me of Tharja, and I hate Tharja

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>Persona: Chacha > genderbent Amatsu-Mikaboshi
>Weapon: Polearms; spears/naginata/halberds/etc. + bolt-action rifles (ultimate would be Spear of Destiny from itemizing Messiah)
>Forte: Multi-hit physical and magic skills (like Kagura), with Charge & Concentrate + Revolution + Marakunda
>Design: Showa-era Japanese general uniform, featuring Oni mask and cape

Would you?

>>375701268
I want her as an MC.

>>375701268
Hahaha holy shit those skills are overpowered as fuck.
>hurr let's turn her into Yoshitsune but with magic too
How desperate can you fags get?

>>375701268
People love writing fanfiction for her, huh?
Maybe we'll get her in the enhanced version but, even then I highly doubt it.

>>375701370
Pretty sure this is the same fag who was trying to force the Debilitate on her would be balanced because Haru has Heat Riser meme

>>375694504
>brown hair yukiko
>wow what great character design!!!

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>>375698602
there is absolutely nothing immature about appreciating the best persona girl and knowing that hifumi deserves to be featured in some of the spin offs/ remakes

>>375701445
This is my first time seeing that post but even then I was surprised that they gave her Marakunda over Debilitate
>here's a calm and composed tactician, what should her skill set be?
>I know, let's make her an absolute offensive powerhouse!
loving every laugh

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>>375701527
>best
>fucking best
Anon called Yuko 2 best
Do you even forehead, son?
Get outta my face with that shit. She'll be forgotten after the hype dies down.

IF you are lucky, maybe Haru will get a DLC Hifumi costume in Persona 5 dancing. I sure as hell won't be buying it though.

>>375701574
She's basically taking over for Yusuke because his toolkit sucks.

And honestly, what else is there? We have 3 healers and Goro already took Debilitate for when he eventually becomes playable in Crimson. Every other possible niche is filled, except for status ailments which are useless except for random encounters- and even then only on Hard/Merciless.

>>375694628

fpbp

>>375694504
I remember when people were hyping her social link.

Seriously fuck you guys. What a disappointment.

>>375701825
>IF you are lucky, maybe Haru will get a DLC Hifumi costume in Persona 5 dancing.
Savage

>>375701853
>what else is there?
Nothing, which is why she isn't necessary as a party member. There aren't really any other skill sets that could set her apart from the others. Adding more characters would just be unnecessary bloat.
Maybe, just maybe that's why she was removed from the party to begin with.

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>>375701825
>scat degenerate who makes you indulge in her fetish

hifumi is genuinely the best waifu and only the select few with an undistorted sense of taste will realize this

>>375702295
>total sperglord who can't play a simple ass game of shogi without screeching autistically
>any better
lmao

>>375694504
She was a main character, but then they changed it.

>>375694504
Anyone have her in the "get fucked" hat? I know one of you saved it

>>375699556
my dick defends this

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>>375702295
>scat degenerate who makes you indulge in her fetish
>main character
>relevant to the plot

Fixed that for you.

>>375694504
This social link sucked. If this was the old atlus they would have localized shogi into chess so we could actually understand whats going on. Only good parts of this slink were the bonuses and lucifer

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>>375702295
You're forgetting
>part of the main cast
>is playable in-game
>is relevant to the plot
>didn't have their spot on the party cucked by Makoto
B-but I'm sure Crimson will fix everything, r-right?

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This is a Haru thread now mother fucker.

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>>375703290
I wholly approve

At least we can all agree that Ohya is worst girl.

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>>375703290
>>375703496
I love Haru!

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>>375703782
Easily.
Like what the fuck was the team even thinking with Ohya? I dislike her so much that I can't even bring myself to do her events.

>>375703782
Ohya's pretty alright if you complete her confidant.
Hell she's actually more relevant to he plot than Hifumi is.
Too bad her confidant rewards are shit so she's doomed to NG+ playthroughs.

I love 123!

>>375701268
Yes!

>>375704014
I think the biggest problem with her confidant is that she wastes like 70% of the time with filler shit. The first 5 meetings or so she only hints that something has happened in her past and how you have to pretend to be her boyfriend. The whole story about her friend is actually very short.

>>375704131
Pretty much. The last few bits of her link are interesting, but reaching that point is a slog.
At least it's better that Hifumi's which was a slog the entire way through.

>tfw Hifumi-chan got you playing Shogi

>>375694504
I read a rumor she was going to be a member of the PT but it got scrapped.

It might have been bullshit though.

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>>375704441
Haru is perfect.

>>375694504

>Muh shogi

Yeah no

>>375702480
This.
There's always one that gets shafted into not being used as a Main Character or gets her design scrapped just so it ends up onto another character entirely.

See Chihiro being the first Fuuka

>dislike short hair on girls
>2/3 of the playable girls has short hair
>Futaba is neither playable and is basically your little sister and Sojiro specifically asks you not to fuck her

I guess Ann is close enough to being long haired. Maybe I can convince my ponytail fetish I want her.

I guess

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>>375702516

>>375701268
I just want her to be playable, I don't even care what her skills are

>>375704904
>>375704904
I do believe it hot scrapped due to Yukiko already pretty much going for the "natural Japanese beauty character" they tried to do and backpedaled in fear of being called out of it.

>>375701268
I have the feeling she's one of those chuunis who'd wear some frilly gothic lolita dress and call herself queen.

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>>375694504

She's just a Chuuni. Granted her confidant is fantastic, but as a character she's just a bore with a meme name.


>>375702295

>I don't know what Black Ivory coffee is even AFTER she goes through the trouble of explaining it

You're either being willfully obtuse or you didn't actually do her link.

>>375694504
Because she's boring as fuck.

3/4ths of the other npcs would make for more interesting party members

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>>375705665
>not wanting to fuck your sister

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>>375706057
My money is on " willfully obtuse"

>>375703782
Nah. Her s.link was fun + you get Beelzebub at the end. The NPC chicks in general are more interesting than the playable ones in 5 (Hifumi is one of the only exceptions to this)

>>375706427

>Chihaya
>Interesting

>>375705665
Sojiro then muses about you having to call him dad and being fine with it though.

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>tfw 'thorough examination'

I liked 4s slinks more 2bh. The bad ones in 3 were really bad, but the good ones were really good, like hierophant, magician, tower, and devil. I feel like a lot of them in 5 take a long time to get anywhere

>>375705665
>dislike short hair on girls
You are not my nigger

>>375706489
humumumu

>>375694504
I wish she was actual chuuni rather than have some dumb chuuni moments. Though I enjoyed her social link than the vast majority of the main cast but like Haru and Makoto she doesn't really have anything to rebel against or have a actually shitty life like Joker and Ryuji. She wouldn't fit in the PT.

>>375706596
The biggest problems with the ones in 5 is that they're all solved through brainwashing in mementos. Every single one sans No-Good Tora and the party members.

>>375706585
I'd doctor her back-alley any day

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>>375703782
I started to like her confidant, gets pretty good half way in, should've had more stuff related to kayo(?) though.
Her appearance is a let down, wish they would have gone with the bottom right appearance, it reminds me of Ema Skye from Phoenix Wright a wee bit

>>375706537
>tfw Sojiro will never be your dad

>>375706674
I kinda liked being involved with them that way though.

>>375706674
You know that might be it

They hint at their problems until rank 8 or 9 when you are suddenly dumped with a request and then its all resolved

I dont know what to think of this game. I like the story and gameplays more than p4 but i feel like p4 did everything else better. The graphics also look really pixelated and theres random slowdowns, as well as things just not looking as sharp as catherine or even p4.

it wasn't worth the hype

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>>375694504
>I don't get why isn't she a main character, such good character design wasted in a secondary role, if you ask me I'd happily change Haru's role for her

Do you want people die from boredom?

>they never had Sojiro say "and that was your coffee trivia for the night"

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>>375706882
Her model is actually kinda cute.

>>375707130
But it could have been better

>>375706914
I get that they probably did it so you have more involvement than just nodding and agreeing with them, but from a narrative standpoint it just leaves their actual stories feeling really flaccid by the end.

>>375706596
Mamoru, the star in P3 was the best one for me because it hit close to home. I do agree with 4's slinks being better than 5's confidants, society and scummy adults felt a bit of a miss, I prefer 4's because it was more of their own problem that they themselves rather than memento magic.

I find her autism really cute

Was Adachi better than Goro?

>>375707417
I think the characters themselves are more likable in 5 while the progression of the stories are handled better in 3 and 4.

I wanna marry Hifumi

>>375694504
she cute but she's chuuni

>>375694504
>tfw she'll never teach you shogi so you can beat the shogi master in Yakuza 0

>>375694504
>such good character design wasted
Japan vidya/anime in a nutshell

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>>375706057
>doing haru's link

It's pretty depressing that hifumi is the only good girl in an entire 100hour jrpg.
No, Sae sadly doesn't count.

>>375710275
You can stop bumping your own thread now, OP. Its starting to get embarrassing how much you have to shill for a boring girl. Don't worry, I gave you a pity bump.

>>375710675
>he think I'm OP
Pathetic

I'm not hating on 123 or 123fags but what impact will she do to the main plot of the game?
she's just a shogi idol

>>375710774
Hope you're ready for the 123 Autist to tell you about his head canon about the Egyptian town in futabas palace, how it was supposed to be a shogi related puzzle and also where she's going to awaken her persona.

>>375711034
>shogi related puzzle
>thinking everyone knows shogi
that's just stupid if they went with it.

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>>375711034
Well, it was.

>>375711034
They're technically not wrong about the whole party member stuff. I'd say they scrapped the idea pretty early though so I doubt anything gameplay related was ever made for her.

http://personacentral.com/persona-5-hifumi-togo-main-character-other-concepts/

>>375711285
>concept Hifumi had ugly short hairs as well

What the fuck is wrong with Soejima and his boyhair boner?

The game took a downturn for me when I realized it was literally Persona 4's skeleton again.

>3 dungeons gathering party members.
>A fourth dungeon that breaks the set conventions because this is getting tedious.
>A fifth dungeon where you get your last (real) party member and the plot is allowed to actually do something.
>Sixth dungeon is where twists and reveals occur.
>Seventh dungeon is the REAL badguy!
>Eighth is the god BEHIND the badguy!

Like shit man, at least do something with it that isn't a surface level change. Why not give us our full party earlier so we can actually get them fleshed out?

>>375710275
>Sae McThundercunt
>"Good"

I mean if you like taking it in the ass while being berated for no reason, sure.

>>375712150
At least she has a good reason for being a cunt, unlike a certain someone.

>>375712394
Morgana?

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>>375701268
>Yusuke with charge and revolution
No thanks

>>375712087
Boat and Mementos depths ruined it for me tbqh

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>>375703290
FUCK YEAH

Did anyone else notice that the first time you meet Goro in the hallway of the TV station he says that cake wouldn't be half bad, while the only one who talked about cake was Morgana ?
I GOT YOU KISAMA !

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>>375715375

Why do people call her 123?

>When you hipster so hard you have to waifu no longer existing concept stage characters.

>>375716520
because that's how you write her name in kanji

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>>375701268
i wouldn't mind if they just straight up optional party members
with how connected your confidants are to the phantom thieves it wouldn't be such an unreasonable idea