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Why does the Japan have so many video game auteurs? Can anyone

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Why does the Japan have so many video game auteurs?

Can anyone name a single western video game auteur?
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Todd Howard
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dude yoko taro bad on purpose lmao
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>>375672425
Phil Fish
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>>375672451
>>375672467

heh
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>>375672474
He's an artistic genius.

>>375672683
kek
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>>375672983
dude interupt combat with an asteroids minigame constantly, fucking art lmao
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>>375672425
but japanese games are SHIT
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Peter Molyneux.

I don't particularly like his games other than B&W1, but no one makes games like he does.
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>>375673210
I only played Fable and they sucked
His cube meme game sucked too
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>>375673271

An auteur doesn't mean a genius or anything, it means someone who has so much input in a work that they can be considered its author.
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>>375672474
bad on purpose != not having the money to create a nice looking game AUTOMATA FAGS GET OUT
His stories are good
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sean murray
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>>375673446

Besides, Drakengard 1 was never intended to be bad on purpose, and it's why he kinda disowns the game aside from the writing.
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>>375673446
>Nice looking
Graphics have nothing to do with it. His games themselves are shit, every single part of them outside of the story, and even those are shit unless you have a fetish for LOL CHILD MURDER XxXDarkLordXxX tier edge.
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>>375673509
>yfw automata was just a plot to fund a drakengard 1 remake
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>>375672425
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>>375673208
As opposed to western games? I bet you are an uncivilized imbecile who eats mcdonalds. Disgusting fag
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>>375673637
doesn't count, he's not western
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>>375673576
This just in, any story that has dark elements in it is edgy shit.
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For better or worse, David Cage is an auteur, his games stand out.

Will Wright obviously, as well as >>375673210

I want to say Tim Schafer, but honestly his games stand out from each other enough that Ron Gilbert could've written half of them and you wouldn't even know.

Lorne Lanning I guess.
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>>375673473
literally /ourguy/
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Because most directors in the west aren't narcissistic faggots like Kojima or Taro. Also the nips have to find some kind of creators to be proud of, since everything else they "make" is actually just made by Koreans.
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>>375673637
But bannerlord is vaporware, anon
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>>375672425
yoko taro is a meme stop pushing this shit
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Warren Spector?
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>>375672425
What the fuck is an auteur? Stop posting, ESL filth.
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>>375674008
>a filmmaker whose personal influence and artistic control over a movie are so great that the filmmaker is regarded as the author of the movie.

Like how when you watch a Spielberg movie, you can tell he made it because he has a signature style.
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>>375673576
>LOL CHILD MURDER XxXDarkLordXxX
So everything needs to wrap up nicely for everyone? Why? How is pedophilia edgy?
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>>375673785
>Character that fucks kids
>Character that murders kids
>Character that eats babies
>Tranny who constantly curses
>Complete whore who kills her family so she can peg their buttboys
>Not edgy
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Michel Ancel
Jonathan Blow (lol)
Edmund McMillen
John Romero (at some point, also lol)
Warren Spector (in some projects)
American McGee (in some projects)
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>>375673590
Everything makes sense now
Fucking taro
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>>375674008
>doesn't know a common word
>accuses someone else of being ESL

lol
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>>375674117
>John Romero (at some point, also lol)

If anything, Daikatana was the way it was because he was given too much control.
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>>375673920
he basically made the first game all by himself
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>>375674081
Don't forget making the MC a scalyfucker
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>>375673352
You literally just googled that didnt you.
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>>375674081
So everyone needs to be a fairy princess or else its just to much for you? All of those things happen in real life, maybe not the last one, but most of that shit does happen.
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>>375673861
lol
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>>375674309

No I learned it in a film class I took for filler credits.
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>>375674081
Yeah dude, there are edgy fucking games where you play as a soldier and kill people. Games nowadays are so fucking edgy.
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>>375673446
his stories are just the same shit we've seen in every form of japanese media.
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>>375674342
Nobody has ever murdered a kid before you fucking edgelord.

God I hate edgy faggots on this website.
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>>375674342
People also say fuck you all the time too. Guess Donte is great.
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>>375673785
>Game depicts kid repetitively stabbing his mother figure while laughing and screaming
>I-It's not edgy if it's japanese!!!
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>>375674435
Just like Western stories. There is no such thing as an original story anymore.
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>>375672425

Japan is huge on hierarchies and seniority. So one guy's vision usually takes priority and underlings follow suit. Where as western devs it is more of a team effort.
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>>375674519
>Everything is edgy

Fuck off meme lord.
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>>375674523
The difference is one of these things don't get praised for being groundbreaking.
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>>375674513
Except that doesn't fit Dante's original character at all. Dip shits cuss in public all the time.
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Todd howard
Carmack

uhh.. hmm. Oh right, all western games are shitted out by gigantic AAA corporations like EA and Activision that are run by CEOs that just shout on the intercom "we need a new madden in two months, hop to it peons or you will be terminated"

Or youve got faggot hipster indy devs like Phil Fish, Zoe Quinn, and whatnot who are only known due to how infamous they are for being unprofessional, entitled pricks
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>>375674603
or what, you gonna kick me with your combat boots you trench coat wearing faggot?
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>>375674603
Nice argument weeb.
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>>375674296
They're a good couple.
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>>375674660
Name ONE (1) person who has cussed ever. I'll be waiting.
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Jason Jones
He's currently in the "resort to hackery" stage too; took him 30 years but the dude has finally made his way there
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>>375674519
Did you only watch cutscenes? He had every reason to be absolutely bonkers, not including the fact he was infected.
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>>375674221
Oh wow. Okay I was wrong
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>>375674698
>>375674737
Don't cut yourself on that edge.
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>>375672425
>How to spot /v/ secretly watches them Channel Awesome cucks: the threads.

Sometimes my friends sending me links while having awful taste pay off.
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>>375672474
Stop watching bunny hop.
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Todd howard
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>>375674771
I didn't play the shit game because it was edgy trash.
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>>375674603
that example is truly edgy tho
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>>375674803
>>375674898
Damn, you are triggered my dude
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>>375674923
Look at it with context.
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>>375674863
>people watching bunnyhop for NieR stuff.
>not watching Mr Clemps
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>>375674971
Triggered? Are you making fun of people with PTSD? Wow, so edgy.
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>>375674898
>shitposting about a game you haven't even played
Yup I'm on /v/ alright.
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>>375674863
i dont even know what that is. Crazy how people can have their own opinions isn't it?
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>>375675036
Surprise! It's edgy!
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>>375674771
So did notimportant. If you really read into the subtext provided by the artstyle of Hatred it is really a poignant message of the bleakness of current society. Along with the repetitive mission structure and gameplay one could say Hatred is a daring statement about the the neverending bombardment of societies expectations on the average person. Faggot.
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>>375674742
>that mad Furiae in the crowd
That's a good image.
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>>375675191
(You)
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>>375672425
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>>375675192
Are you legitimately retarded
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>>375675192
You would have to jump through hoops to make that connection most normal people look at hatred and see a school shooter simulator.

Nier pretty much spells it all out for you by ending E
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>>375675242
>(It's literally OK when Japan does it)
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>this one Tarodrone has actually gone the way of the machines after mention of the word "edgy"
Goodness, this is the best use of a medium I've seen, Taro IS a genius after all
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>>375675329
What makes Notimportant edgy and 9S not?
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Why are Japanese game developers so good?

How many times do Japs have to save the videogame industry from Westshitters self-destructive tendencies?

>pic unrelated
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>>375672425
Peter Moulineux, Sid Meyer, Richard Garriot.
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>>375675360
Have another (You).
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>>375675469
So you had no argument, as was obvious from the beginning.
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>>375675456
Their situations are vastly different, you don't see Notimportant lose his mind after he loses everything he cares about. He's just a full blown "pssh nothin personell kid" edgelord from the start.
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Tim Schafer
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>>375675456
>9S
Hes not trying to be edgy hes actually gone insane from grief, loss, and finding out he was designed to die.
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>>375675525
No point in arguing with obvious bait. You had no argument to begin with. Here's another (You) since you're trying so hard.
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>>375675596
9S is a robot. You have to jump through hoops to give him any reason to care about anything.
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>>375675049
Luke stop shilling yourself, also homosexuality is wrong you degenerate
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>>375675049
They're both garbage spoiler videos for children, just play the game
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Molyneux
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>>375672425
Brianna Wu

Checkmate.
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When are people going to realize arguing with weebs is useless? They're the same delusional retards who think garbage like Ghost In The Shell is original or important.
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>>375672425
Tim Schafer
Todd Howard
Peter Molyneux
Johnathon Blow
Ed McMullen
Cliffy B.

It's just too bad they've made no good games.
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>>375675621

Dont do angst fags do that all the time anyway? Its so typical of japanese melodrama that it makes me fucking cringe.

Fuck i know cancer patients with a lot more resolve.
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>>375672425
Will Wright, Sid Meier, Warren Spector, Peter Monyjeux, Todd Howard, Jon Blow, Lord Brittish and Notch

I think it's strange that people in western countries tend to ascribe games to a singular Japanese dev less than they do western ones. Like when talking about Uncharted no one goes "That's Amy Hennigs game." but when Grasshopper puts out a new game people will likely refer to it as Suda's new game. There are a fuck ton of people involved in movie making but the directors are viewed as far more important to a movie than a video game. I wonder why? Sure there are a lot of programmers and such involved that make that game possible but a Michael Bay movie has a ton of those same sorts working on making those big robots and explosions look as good as can be, and yet Transformers is a "Micahel Bay movie" whilst Uncharted is just a Naughty Dog game. I don't get it.
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>>375675750
Oh, you were also baiting. This is why having any discussion on /v/ is impossible.

Here's your (You). Take it and fuck off.
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>>375675883
>I think it's strange that people in western countries tend to ascribe games to a singular Japanese dev less than they do western ones


I mean MORE than they do western ones.
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>>375675874
Some of those cancer patients are fucking edgelords and are constantly whining about how they only have 3 months to live.
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>>375675914

Fuck off weeb. Enjoy your teen angst
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>>375675832
>Anyone who like anything from japan is a weeb
Ive never watched anime outside of DBZ and Nier is great.

Tell me what games do you approve of? Its obvious you're an expert in the matter.
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>>375675872
Nah Psychonauts is classic
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>>375676000

And yet they dont murder people.
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Japanese have lead devs with artistic and creative vision. They surround themselves with devs and coders and shit but the artistic genius is the will of one man alone. Just like a Picasso or a Hitchcock film, Japanese creative geniuses put their soul into their works of arts.

Meanwhile, westshitters just shit out generic crap to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
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>>375675621
>Eric and Dylan
They're not trying to be edgy they've actually gone insane from grief, neglect, and hopelessness
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>>375675874
>Fuck i know cancer patients with a lot more resolve.
He does have resolve he really does try. But I assume most cancer patients dont get infected with a logic virus that drives them insane.
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>>375675883
There's a Kubrick quote that touches on that
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>>375674752
>Alex gone
>Joe gone
>Marty gone
>dude who fired Marty is gone
>in Activision's thralls
Punished Jason
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>>375676000
If you're on this website you're a weeb. Get over it.
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>>375676076
k. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsutomu_Miyazaki
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>>375676112
Now this is top tier shitposting.
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>>375676112
Except only one was an actual outcast the other one was just a manipulative psychopath. What the fuck does 9S having a mental break have to do with Columbine?
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>>375676291
They wuz good boys, they dindu nuffin
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>>375676348
9S and 2B were both characters inspired by Eric and Dylan.
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>>375676412
Now THIS is shitposting
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>>375676175

Yeah, you mean terminally ill patients? Because I have not heard of any instance of them going on a murder spree.

Whats next, Timothy McVeigh being justified in his crimes against the united states?
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>>375676498
Looks like somebody didn't do the mission where you had to shoot up Pascals school for machine children
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>>375676525
Terminally ill patients are fucking edgelords and would shoot up a school if they could walk
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>>375676525
Tim McVeigh was actually justified though. 9S is just a stereotypical ONE STEP CLOSER tier shit character.
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>this discussion
So this is the power of the NieR story... deep...
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>>375676291

Good to know that they are also degenerate chinks.

Wasnt there a sick jap fuck who ate his european college dorm mate?
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>>375676525
>going on a murder spree
When does 9S go on a murder spree? He says he will kill all robots but he was already doing that shit he just makes it a vendetta. Most cancer patients aren't androids that have an OS that got infected, why are ignoring that plot point?
>Timothy McVeigh
Are you implying Ruby Ridge and Waco weren't absolute bullshit?
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>>375676695
Nope, that's another degenerate nip.
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>>375676757
>>375676664
>Responding seriously to bait posts
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>>375676684
OP here, the shitposters hijacked my thread


wut do?
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>>375676832
Don't post on this board
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>>375676684
Let's be real here, there is no real deep story out of any piece of media that has ever been made. Only pretentious hipsters and literal children consider something "deep".
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>why does japan have so many video game autists
ftfy
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BOOHOO IM JUST DAMAGED AND NO ONE LOVES ME
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>>375676664
*tips fedora*

Looks like I met another enlightened gentlemen that sees our hero Tim McVeigh in the light he deserves.

Hehe.....
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>>375676923
How about... No.
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Daniel Remarr
Garry Newman
Chris Wilson
Ben Brode
Nicklas Nygren (Nifflas)
The Taxman
Zach Barth
Chris Avellone
Todd Howard
Peter Molyneux

If you don't know these guys for better or worse you don't know SHIT about western vidya.
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waaahhh I'm an edgy little useless bitch boy

daddy please love me!
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>>375677089
>>375677134
>wow.... ellipses.....
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>>375677202
*unzips katana*


Don't f*ck with me....
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Fuck 9s.

Now THIS was a man of VISION
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>>375677049
Don't you see anon. He was abused by his mother and lived all by himself, thus him wearing peoples skin as a body suit isn't edgy. The more excuses you have the less edgy your actions.
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>>375677197
That's a nice list of edgy people. Only edgy people try to manipulate the masses by creating media to entertain them.
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>>375677269
Edgy post friend
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>>375677349
Did I need to mark the post with /s? Are you just in town on visit from Neogaf?
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>>375677268
Wow... are you honestly saying that one of the Columbine shooters was a man of vision..?

Edgy...
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>>375677393
Ed Gein literally did nothing wrong and he isn't edgy. Stop being a faggot.
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CRAAAWWWLLLIIIIINNG IN MY SKIIIINNNNNMNN
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Too many egomaniacs who think they are good game developers but honestly just failed to innovate past their initial games.

Miyamoto with the same old Nintendo mascots bullshit.
Kojima couldn't get away from Metal Gear.
Kamiya/Mikami couldn't get away from muh cuh rah zee!
Inafune couldn't get away from Megaman.
IGA can't get away from Metroidvanias.

the list goes on.
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>>375674008
>What the fuck is an auteur?
Ignorance is not a virtue you dumb fuck. Pick up a fucking book once in a while.
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Look at these edgelords storming a beach to shoot up other human beings.

E D G Y A S F U C K
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>>375675883
>Like when talking about Uncharted no one goes "That's Amy Hennigs game."
They should. Fuck that "i follow studios" shit.
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>>375677620
Only faggots read a tome full of squiggles and no images.
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>>375675883
>>375672425
Don't forget Tim Schafer.
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>>375677692
War is edgy, even for humanity, anon. I don't see your point
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>>375677897
War isn't a real thing you memelord. When you think about it what memesters consider "war" is just a bunch of battles fought between two or more factions.
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>>375676695
>Good to know that they are also degenerate chinks.
That exist all over the world. No race, ethnicity or culture has a monopoly on fucked up shit. Some people are just born all fucked up.
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>>375678076
Nope, white people haven't done anything wrong. It's the fault of smelly minorities that cause murders to happen.
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>>375678145
See i cant tell if when people say this they are joking or nor. I used to be able to , but not anymore.
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>>375678250
Here I thought I was being blatantly sarcastic but then I realized where we were.
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>>375672425
It's because the ones from the west are hacks who don't know how to make games.
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>>375678425
Guy on the right would be cool if he was a white guy.
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>>375673446
His stories are garbage full of elements which contradicts each other.
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>>375678551
>each other.
Stopped reading there.
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>>375678335
Minorities are unironically shit though. White people build all the shit and the good life and smelly minority take er jerbs.
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>>375678335
sarcasm doesnt work on the internet, son

similar to how all those jokes your drop irl dont garner laughter but silence and concerned frowns
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>>375672451
fpbp
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>>375678727
sounds like you're projecting anon
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>>375672425

Is Taro actually a great director who was hampered by low budgets? Or is he actually just shit?
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Jonathan Blow. That's it.
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>>375680673
Play nier automata and judge for yourself.
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Chris Avellone
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>>375677620
>Pick up a fucking book once in a while.
>reading at all

What are you, a girl? Fuck outta here, pussy ass nigga.
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>>375675459

Japanese
>The player can't read the attacks from the enemies
>Maybe design them to contrast more so the player can see the weapon better and give a better signal that they are about to attack?

Western
>The player can't read the attacks from the enemies
>Just remove it
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>>375672425
>those thumbs
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>>375672425
>tackle basic themes in philosophy
>OMG SUCH AN ARTIST

I don't understand the praise you fucks heap on this guy. He can't design a game to save his life and his writing is spotty at best. The whole romance of 9S and 2B is some of the most contrived shit I've ever seen in games and the fact that the game tackles the theme of finding meaning in meaninglessness inadvertently makes the game itself meaningless and pointless.
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>>375677692

holy shit, I cut myself on all that edge xD
So cringe haha
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>>375675049
>clemps
>literal reddit humor every 3 sec like a fucker with turrets
no thanks
Demo D> Bunny Hop> shit >clemps
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>>375683561

I don't see any praise all I see nowadays is posts like yours so if you want to be contrarian start complimenting the game
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>>375683702
(you)
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>>375683561
surely you fucking morons realize saying "auteurs" doesn't mean "makes good games" right?
So why the fuck are you guys discussing whether the game is good or not?

Auteurs just mean trying to be "artsy" and having a faggoty attitude.
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Toby Fox
Phil "Nuke number 3" Fish
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>>375675883
A video game dev team is usually the same people working on the project the entire time, and series usually have mostly the same people. The whole team is there from start to finish.

On a movie out of years it takes to go from idea to cinema screens the cast and majority of crew are involved for only a couple months. They probably worked on 5 other movies while the first movie was still coming out.
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>>375675773
This. I enjoyed Clemps' videos presentation, but they're basically just plot summaries, not reviews or analyses or anything of value to anyone who actually cares about the games.
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