Why is this game so overrated? >rebuilding your farms like

>>375671105
always building lumber camps closer to forests*
fixed

because managing a city is fun
>oh no, there is too much stuff to do in this game

Why would you play RTS games if you don't like micromanagement? That's like playing an FPS and not liking shooting and killing.

Also you can queue farms at the mill you dorkus.

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>when you think you're being a burden to your teammate in a 2v2 and then watch the replay and see your resource tributes to him and general stalling of the enemy teams allowed him to snatch victory from the jaws

>>375672043
AOE2 is not a city management game, retard

How is scouting and building houses tedious? They're among the easiest hotkeys to remember.

>>375672524
Because you have to do it every 20 seconds.

>>375672606
The only time you need to babysit your scout that much is right at the start to get a lay of your immediate surroundings.

After that you should just haphazardly spam waypoints over the minimap and send him off to roam the whole level.

>>375671105
Nostalgia basically. AoE3 is far superior.

>>375671105
>overrated?

by whom?

>>375672408
It lets me manage a city in it if I want. checkmate

>>375673053
You don't fucking manage a city.
You want a city managing game? Play Caesar 3.

You don't have to care about their food, water, crime, taxes, fire danger, entertainment, unemployment, fear of revolt etc...

The villagers in AOE2 are mindless robots.

The only really tedious and annoying micromanagement is STOPPING THEM KILLING MULTIPLE SHEEP/DEER AT ONCE YOU FUCKING IDIOTS GODDAMNIT

>wtf this classic game has minor flaws therefore it's trash

>>375673201
>citysimfags and combatfags are this mad that I can use a rts as a city management game and it's one of the best at it

Even after nearly 20 years this game is still a solid #6 on my all time top games list. I never found it tedious and I really felt a sense of gaming accomplishment being able to beat the scenarios on the hardest difficulty.

Favorite Civ to use? Mine was the Mongols and just eviscerating everyone with raw speed after getting as many relics as I could on the map. WOLOLOLOLOLOLO

Is AoE2 a good game to play if I want to build a comfy city and/or outposts while destroying the ever loving shit out of my enemies?

>>375674339
>mongols
>not goths
>not treating the game like an an ant-farm simulator

>>375674469
You probably won't be comfy until the end, because they won't stop attacking your city no matter how few soldiers they may have and you'll regularly have to watching outer defenses and moving units around in defense.

By the time you get to be comfy, you'll basically have already neutered the enemy, either financially from resources or force.

>want to play multiplayer
>terrible at rts and never really played against humans
>afraid of getting bullied for being trash

>Build shit
>Get attacked and have everything destroyed
>Build shit
>Get attacked and have everything destroyed
>Build shit
>Get attacked and have everything destroyed
>Build shit
>Get attacked and have everything destroyed
>Build shit
>Get attacked and have everything destroyed
>Build shit
>Get attacked and have everything destroyed
>Build shit
>Get attacked and have everything destroyed
>Build shit
>Get attacked and have everything destroyed
>Build shit
>Get attacked and have everything destroyed
WOW SO MUCH FUN REPLAYING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER
I used to play these all the time as a kid, they're unbearable as fuck now for my nihilistic self

>decide to try and play online
>get eliminated within 10 minutes

How do I git gud?

>>375675103
Print out hotkey list. Work at memorizing basic ones at a time like building villagers and farms.

And whenever you play skirmish against the AI NEVER PAUSE

You must throw the habit of pausing.

>>375675103
Play the campaigns on the hardest level you can. It will sharpen your military skills since it will throw every kind of challenge at you. Practice makes perfect friendo.

>>375675312
>And whenever you play skirmish against the AI NEVER PAUSE
why

>>375675464
Because you need to learn to think on the fly and plan ahead instead of pausing every 5 seconds to think and move everything around.

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>Most recommended civ
https://www.quiz-maker.com/Q4142C

>Least recommended civ
https://www.quiz-maker.com/QPU3VR

>AOE2HD Civs only
Give it a whirl and show results.

>>375676089
>aoe2hd civs only

Why even bother with a quiz when every match will just be hunsVhuns?

Rise of Nations > AoE

who /empireearth/ here

>>375672783
This by far the best post

>I don't shift click

>>375671105
>chances that you get fucked by tower rushes or castle rushes. ooh so much strategy! the retard with the fastest fingers who memorized the building order wins!

That's why you scout out their strategy. Learning to handle pressure is the other thing, tower rushes can apply a ton of it but the guy who does it has to take off like five villagers off his economy.

>>375676931
Then start playing maps not called Arabia

>>375678131
Oh you are assuming /v/ people know to play the games they talk about too much

>>375671105
Get good, scrub.

What is your favourite civ from AK+RotR?

Mine is the Ethiopians.

>super strong archers
>top tier siege
>instant pikes in castle age
>that flexible resource boost on age up
>building a million shotel warriors after a castle drop and just demolishing their TC.

There's so many strategies you can do with them. The other AK civs feel like shit in comparison.

>>375671105

nobody said it was perfect

they said it was fun, which it definitely must be considering the fact that thousands of people still play it daily in the year 2017

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>>375678220
but the ai shits the bed and makes a billion ships on any map with more than a 3x3 water block
it cant even handle highlands

>>375678318
wew lad

>>375679128
>defeat AI on highlands
>its ships still hang around the water crossings and annoy the shit out of me.

>tfw Teuton fag and turtle
>tfw people just make trebs and push my shit in

:(

>>375679824
>turtling as Teutons
>not driving a fuckload of rams packed with teutonic knights into their base and demolishing everything.

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>>375679980
It always kills me watching Siege Rams going like racecar speed in comparison to their base speed when they're fully garrisoned

>>375677726
One of the potential best 3D RTS of 2000's... Shame about the sequels...
Also OP is a goddamn faggot.

>>375675021
Have you considered maybe killing the other guy with the units you can produce from the shit you built instead of getting steamrolled every game?

>>375675103
Build villagers.
Build 2 or 3 extra town centers to make villagers faster.
Having decent macro is more than half of getting good

>>375679128
Use the Original AI

>>375671105
kek it still sometimes peaks at 15k, hilarious. I think dawn of war 3 which came out not too long ago had what 16k or something? And they still keep adding civs.

People may shittalk the HD version but there's no doubt it literally revived the series.

>>375672783
lmao

>>375682413
The main problem with the HD version is they break the shit out of everything with every update and then disappear for months at a time leaving everything unfixed.

>>375677726
This
I keep EE as the best RTS i've ever played
the only problem is that i cant play it because the engine is old as fuck and it doesnt work on vista/7/8 no matter what i do

>>375680920
2 or 3 is the absolute minimum.

pros spawn like 10 of them and 10 castles all over the damn mamp.

>>375671105
shut up you fucking retard
you have zero fucking idea of what you're talking about
never ever post something near me ever again

>>375672524
The problem here is that you're assuming /v/ actually uses hotkeys

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>>375683423

>when old games have shittier performance on superior newer systems.

I understand they were limited in how much ram they could use but I have no idea why Rome 1 is laggy as a motherfucker for me on ultra unit size when in the past I was able to play 200-240 unit size battles with less of a problem. Dawn of war feels the same way.

I remember playing with a friend when I was 12 just us two and I said I'll farm all the timber on the map and you spam farms and we'll get outrageous resources for fun.

My job was easy as hell but my mate had to spam farm restock constantly forever and ever shit sucked lol.

>>375672783
(You)

>>375676089
>haven't played in over a decade
>don't remember half of this shit
this will be fun

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>>375683948
and it's not only lag
it's the graphics
the game's graphics are so old that whenever i try to launch it, it looks like one of Dali's paintings
and there are like 3 threads about this on the whole internet
this is just sad if you ask me

>>375671105
Sounds like you have no APM, perhaps ASSFAGGOTS would be more up your alley?

>>375679824
>Not dropping a castle as soon as you can near your enemy
>Not making a siege workshop and stables nearby
>Not pumping out Teutons loaded in rams
>Not bulldozing your way through everything
>Not supporting your Teutons with Knights to take out the catapults and archers if he decides to counter
>Not enjoying the sight of your enemy throwing everything he has on you in panic and desperation
>Not enjoying the sight of your Teutonic Knights ripping them a new one

>>375676089
i got the huns lmao

>>375684806
>Not dropping a castle as soon as you can near your enemy
This is faggotry.

It's like sneaking behind an opponent during a gunfight and shooting him in the head.

Let him at least build something before you take it.

>>375685182
That only works in low elo I guess. Tried doing that against a 9k and well he scouted it easily and I got destroyed. Or rather if you get scouted you will loose anyway against somebody decent.

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>>375671105
>ooh so much strategy! the retard with the fastest fingers who memorized the building order wins!
Congratulations, you just summed up 99.9% of RTS multiplayer. Now fuck off

>>375685569
Are you implying that 99.9% of RTS are shit?

>>375685452
I'm sure a 9k would've at least had himself walled off at that time anyway+he would've harassed you in feudal age with archers not to mention scout you like 100 times before that. Its a miracle you even decided to pull.

>>375685758
No, but maybe they just aren't for you, famboni

>>375684806
>Not supporting your Teutons with Knights to take out the catapults and archers if he decides to counter
Not really a competitive fag, but wouldn't Light Cavalry/Husars be better for that?

>>375686226
teuton don't have light cav

>>375686296
Ah, thanks

>>375684806
>>375686296
Have fun with my spearmen

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>>375686715
>spearmen
>against Teutonic Knights
F

I consistently judge people based on if they can remember at least one password from Age of Empires 2.

It's usually "How do you turn this on"

>>375687136
password as in cheat code?

Because if so, there's literally only 1 you ever need to remember: Robin Hood. Rush your Market out, spam Robin Hood, win the game in 5 minutes.

Just remember to leave cheat codes on when playing with friends, but put it in stealth mode. EZ rage.

>>375687136

>tfw too smart to use passwords

>>375688570
>too

>>375688654

Fucking grammar nazi.

>>375674469
AoE is very comfy if you play against noobs on easily defended maps like black forest.

I feel so stupid when playing these games. It's seems like even on easy, I get my ass raped. I'll look around the map, and the AI already has a whole fucking group of villagers, meanwhile I'm still stuck with a hand full. Then as soon as I start building an army, I'll get ran over by an AI who in the meantime somehow managed to get ages ahead of me AND build an impressive army.

AOE and AOM aren't nearly as fun to play as Civ games.

>>375689050
It's because you suck
get fucking good

>>375673613
/v/ in a nutshell

>>375671105
The expansion lets you auto rebuild farms. You're complaining about something that was fixed 17 years ago.
Also a villager can 1v1 a wolf if you research loom.

>>375689050
You don't build enough villagers.Watch a fast castle vid to get an idea of what you should be doing.

The fast castle build order is like the basic core from which other strategies branch.

>>375689050
You should always be producing villagers. If you ever pause in villager production then you're not managing your economy well.
For new players, you should be aiming to go to the next age when you have between 22-26 villagers (not counting your scout).
Age up with lesser villagers if you plan to fight in the feudal age. Age up with more villagers if your base is easily defended, and you don't think you need any army until the castle age.

I can't get into this game no matter what I try. I remember playing it for a while as child, but getting bored quickly and going back to Stronghold and Stronghold Crusader. I played Age of Mythology longer but wasn't big fan of it either.
I bought HD version and Star Wars GB few months ago thinking that maybe now, when I am much older I will appreciate it. But I still can't like it.
It feels so fucking devoid of any life. Every city I will build is dead. No one walks here, villagers works usually outside city, most buildings is of a military type. I don't have to care about happiness, taxes, religion etc. I can't even place my troops on walls I have build around my city. No matter what I will build it doesn't look pleasing or original but more like soulless military outpost. Basically everything here serves making new troops and going to battle. And I don't find battles so fun here either especially because soldiers don't fight for any beloved city or that toothless wench waiting for them back home.

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>>375686882
*blocks your path*

>>375689614
just play a city builder instead of an rts

>>375687136
MARCO
[spoilers]POLO[/spoilers]

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>>375684505
AoE2 was fine, this was GOTYAY

>>375689704
But I like fighting in strategy games too. I just like to have motivation to fight.

>>375687136
>not robinhood

>>375689614
You've got a point.

It's like a dystopian, totalitarian nightmare where people exist only for fighting or providing resources in order to fight and for nothing else. None of the villagers have names or individuality. They are soulless work drones who will even attack armored knights if you command it. There are no unique buildings too, except wonders. Because everyone understands that building something beautiful is meaningless as it would be sooner or later destroyed. Most military units will attack and kill civilians too.

Age of Empires 2 is a pretty bleak game. The villagers always had the choice of either be slaves for a ruthless imperialist or be slaughtered by an even more evil imperialist.

>>375671105
t. mobafetus

>>375689614
Age of Empires is a RTS, not a city builder.
The depth of the game comes from out maneuvering your enemies military while balancing your economy to support unit production; it's not about managing a city state.
I hate to say it anon, but you're literally playing the game wrong. You're in the wrong genre.

Perhaps you'd enjoy the game more if you tried attacking isn't of defending until you lose. If you need to be immersed then immerse yourself in the Mongol horde salting the earth, or a Viking fleet pillaging and raping, or a Jihad slaughtering the Infidels.
The thrill of AoE comes from executing cunning strategies and leading daring raids, which is something you can't feel while hiding behind your walls trying to make your city aesthetically pleasing or whatever.

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>>375689854

>not having an entire platoon of cobra cars shoot down the enemie's castle walls and rape their city from the inside out

Why are so many people in this thread really mad that other people like RTS?

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>>375690286
>not a squad of disciplined Monkey Boys

You know what would be cool? A total overhaul of AoE2 that pushed the limits of the game with over the top silliness and used the cheat units legitimately, kind of like Brawl Minus, 10x/AW for TF2 etc.

Are there any fellow newbies playing online, or is the game filled with autistic tryhards?

There are unbelievable jumps in micromanagement at times and it gets very frustrating.

Age of Mythology is better.

>>375691291
What do you mean with jumps?

>>375689614
ofc some of the stuff about your city is implied to be there, complaining that e.g. no one is walking, is like complaining that in mario you get more than one life, or that npcs are always in the same place in a rpg. you just pretend or play a more detailed game

>>375691162
There are actually a lot of noob lobbies.

Probably one of the most complex RTS out there. Far surpasses Brood War even.

The skill ceiling is just unimaginably high. So many micro optimizations for nearly every aspect of the game

>>375695126
bw is dozens of times more micro intensive
(only because of the shitty interface btw)

>>375695276
Well only because of the unit selection limit. But overall AoE is still more complex when you factor in economic mangement, and the fact that you still can micro at a BW level if you really want to. Pulling back archers before they die for example.