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Heroes of the Storm thread who do you main who do you hate

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Heroes of the Storm thread


who do you main

who do you hate playing against

whatever
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crystal maiden

axe
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>>375595730
muradin

lili
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Finally! After so many hots posting I actually miss this thread [spolier]xD[\spoiler] . we should go back to the good old moba days. It was so much fun. I think it is coming back with the popularity of overwatch (moba/shooter hybrid)
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I only played it for muh free OW skins, but Diablo is fun as fuck to play if you get any sort of lead whatsoever. That one talent that resets your charge cooldown after a chokeslam is basically a free kill on an enemy since you can just isolate one enemy into the middle of your own team.

For the best MOBA though, my favorite character is Arc Warden and Axe is my least favorite to play against desu.
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Can you guys imagine the amount of money Blizzard would have made by doing dota2 and hiring icefrog instead of valve?
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>>375595730
IL IKE BIG BOOBIES
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>>375596972
yeah holy fuck, wouldve been insane

i dont like dota much
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>>375596930
diablo is a good character no doubt, really interesting games when hes in play
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>>375597037
what
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>>375595730
Nazeebo is fun when you're not playing against stealth or long range poke. also like Jaina, but she suffers against tanky heroes. i like Stitches too, taking the talents for more HP and HP Regen and basically becoming this never dying nuisance.

looking at expanding somewhat. Sylvanas seems fun but outclassed easily. Arthas looks interesting but i tend to do better with ranged characters than melee ones.
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>>375598328
I really like nazeebo, i think that hes difficult to play if you want to maximize his DPS which I love

but in draft I find that i always have to fill tank or support
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>>375595730
Don't care, will never play anything but vs AI unless I have to for an event. Just having fun after work instead of dealing with matchups and screaming babby children and shit.
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HELP I'M HAVING TOO MUCH FUN PLAYING VARIAN
I used to hate him and any other brain-dead characters,now I can't even go back to abathur or alarak
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>>375598967

>implying I'm not banning his broken ass in every single game

I have no idea what the fuck they were thinking.
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>just playing as whoever I feel like and whatever i can get my hands on
but really i've taken a liking to tassadar, nova and now uther

i'm trying to get my levels up so i can play rank and play with my mate who allegedly plays competitive in a team and wins cash so i'll see if i can get into it
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>>375598635
Is there a players vs AI type matchmaking?
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>>375599032
>>375598967
yup, ban every time
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Does aba's speed boost or rehgar's bloodlust help zarya?
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wtf you fucking assclowns LIKE this game now?
6 months ago YOU TOLD ME TO KILL MYSELF FOR PLAYING IT
MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MINDS YOU DISGUSTING SUBHUMAN DOGRAPISTS!
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>>375599158
>listening to /v/ ever
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>>375599158
>Posting xena
Now I need a chakram based hero in the game
Only thing that's even close is Zul'jin's axes
I guess I'll install kingdoms of amalur again.
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>>375599158
>Most of /v/ are casual sheep flocking to the designated flavor of the month
This really can't come as a surprise you, can it? I mean with the amount of casualwatch threads and everything..
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>>375599295
A single player MMO? I wreally wish they would have continued the route they initially were going down. Could have been pretty good.
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Jaina

Butcher
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>>375595730

>Main
Lunara

>Hate
Every stealthy fucker
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>>375599060

Yeah, there's also You with team ai vs enemy ai. You still get xp and rewards too.
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Azmodan

Screw varian
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Haven't decided on a main but I like Lucio, Lt. Morales, Kharazim, Sgt Hammer and Tyrael. Just got MVP as Lucio, 17-15-4, 2nd most hero damage dealt on my team, he's such cancer even I feel bad for my opponents, I went for the Reverse Amp talent that makes it last forever when 2 or more enemies are inside the AoE and I drained their HP incredibly fast
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>>375599053
I tested out tassadar in that single lane "try" mode but I dont see any use for him, can you tell me why you like him or what makes him good?
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WHERE IS DEATHWING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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What's your favorite stealth hero?
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I commend them for their business model, lootcrates ala Overwatch, but in F2P game. Too bad the game is shit, would've loved to play some games as Jaina in T5.
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>>375599158
> /v/ is one person

Besides they made some decent changes to it.
I wasn't a big fan before 2.0, gameplay is still heavily reliant on team-mates not fucking up but if you are playing in a group it can be fun.

At least now there is a decent incentive to keep playing with loot crates, etc.
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>>375599959
You call this shit scary?
Fucking pussy
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thrall

varian
seriously, fuck this guy
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>>375598328
I absolutely love Nazeebo, playing him has become second nature to me. Even if I lose I can't get mad because he's just so relaxing yet satisfying to play
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>>375595730
Friendly reminder Tracer is secretly a melee hero.
Friendly reminder Samuro is secretly a specialist hero.
Pick and play accordingly.

The counter to Valeera is to just walk away.
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>>375600291
>equips 2 sword
>ORAORAORAORAORAORAORA
>lifesteals his entire HP 4 times
>blocks everything
Yeah you're right
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I do not play Heroes of the Storm, or any other aeon of strife styled fortress assault game.
enjoy your thread.
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>>375600407
Butcher would have wrecked her if he had bothered fighting back
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Kerrigan is one level away from 60.

I'm rather enjoying playing artanis right now though. Long range swaps are really satisfying, especially into towers. But when I play him and get in vs arthas, i just don't even want to play. That AOE slow is cancer to artanis.
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>>375600297
I like playing Nazeebo too but he is countered so hard by pretty much any healer since a vast majority of his damage output is dealt over time, meaning that you can splooge all over someone but they can still be brought back from the brink by a healer before the DoT ticks down.
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I actually judt started playing this game on Friday.
I don't do ranked, so I like to main Valeera and Dehaka.
Valeera is so much fucking fun. I used my level 100 boost on a rogue in WoW, too, so I was having a lot of fun as Valeera. I have been getting top damage and kills almost every game.
I hate playing against Varian. The dude is hard to kill.
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>TFW butcher charges you as genji so you just dash in your towers and he dies
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>>375600608
>I like playing Nazeebo too but he is countered so hard by pretty much any healer since a vast majority of his damage output is dealt over time
That's your fault for not getting enough stacks.

Finish your stacks.
Go spider build.
Demolish pubs after 10 minutes.
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>>375600407
>just stands there and lets her wail on him
>drops a nuke and walks away
>would have died if not for the meat giving you just enough health to live
You're a fucking retard. Literally just press W on her and she would have dropped her ult and ran away and you would have won that bout. Not only did you lose that bout but they made you look like a bitch at the same time.
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>183s quickplay
ded game
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>>375600679
>Not going frogs for disgusting siege potential
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>>375600407
>that nuke placement
That was generally awful to watch. Didn't get every building in the nuke. Also didnt brand val and AA move, AA, move. Is this what silver league looks like?
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>new update for blizzard moba
>gets free shilling 24/7 here

really makes you think.
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How about some high res pictures of the different costumes?
Someone posted a collage of Sylvanas few days ago.
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>>375600679
Spiders might as well be a DoT due to how they work (initial burst and then the spiders attack over time). He has very little raw burst. He can turn a health bar yellow in a hurry, but he can't empty it nearly as fast.
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>>375600778
>Didn't get every building in the nuke.
>Is this what silver league looks like?
Is this where you tell me you're gold to justify not knowing that center of nuke does double damage?
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>>375600407
>>375600778
Also, that butcher took block. Literally saved his life.
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>>375595730
I guess I main Muradin? he's the only master skin I ever bothered to get (while they were still a thing" but I feel like I'm a pretty trash Mura so i dunno
I hate playing against anyone who outnumbers me in lane
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>>375600745
The meat didn't give him health and Valeera was stupid to open with ambush.
Look at the levels, dumbass.
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>>375600608
I think he makes up for it with his zombie wall and great sieging potential. He also has great survivability if you take the talent that heals you with your passive + gargantuan + ice block. I've kited so many people to death with this its not even funny. Sure you can't tick all boxes but even then you're still the specialist of your team so burst is only secondary to you
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>>375600890
FINISH

YOUR

STACKS
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>>375601146
How does being level 3 change the fact that pressing W makes you beat another melee.
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>>375595730
I like Nova and Valeera or whatever her name is, but I only just started so I played maybe 17 characters so far. More than half were completely worthless though. But I finally learned what you guys mean about the Russians.
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>>375600569
>Kerrigan is one level away from 60.
People actually enjoy playing her? I find her kit really underwhelming
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>tfw don't know all these maps
>tfw don't know what fucking lane to go at the start of the game
>tfw don't know when to go help out where
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valeera is so gay
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>>375601438
She USED to be good.

Just like how Nova USED to be good.
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>>375601269
>30% bonus to less than 100 damage
>Mattering that much
>Still insinuating that the spiders deal their damage quick enough to be considered burst
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>>375600992
XP from towers worth more than some extra dmg on a full hp fort.
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>>375601548
G O L D
O
L
D
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So what's YOUR favourite map,anons?
Mine is the tomb,also fuck the new hanamura map
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>>375601516
I'm talking about her kit, less about her viability. Her auto-hits are pretty satisfying but everything else about her kit is kinda eh imo
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I like playing Cassia
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>>375601548
Yeah that's the case,when the towers actually have health and ammo,that is.he could've easily cleared the towers if valeera didn't interrupt,but he was a dumb-dumb so who cares
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>>375595730
Main: Lunara
I absolutely fucking hate stealth fuckers
I just can't fucking see them coming
It may have to do with me being colourblind or just me being fucking stupid
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>>375601774
Get that reveal wisp upgrade and/or that first level reveal shit
Send your wisp to it's dead
Voila,now those squishy fucks will die before they even reach their forts.
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>The Unholy and Blood themed Arthas skins do not have themed abilities
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>>375600407
Block saved butch
Valeera player didn't combo correctly
2 min into game

Didn't even know it
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>>375595730
>main
Anub'Arak. It seems like he got popular from the last time I played, so I'm guessing he got some buffs which I'd like.

>hate playing against
Butcher if I'm a immobile character, and Varian because fuck that parry.
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>that one player with the toaster
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>>375595730
I started playing for the OW skins, but I'm having fun playing medivh;since I used to play dota a lot, he's not that difficult, but he requires a good team that listens to you

on dota:
>main
disruptor
>hate playing against
anti-mage, fuck him
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>>375601438
I do, you lurk in the backlines and only go in when a squishy gets out of position or your team has poked someone enough that you can combo stun them to finish them.

If you jump the gun, you're just going to die all the time. Her kit is underwhelming only vs high mobility heroes, you'll almost never land a combo. In cases like that you just end up going ravage build with overdrive.
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>>375601519

he's talking about vile posion level 20 talent
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>>375602160
>Anubarak
Man I love his play-style,his looks and his alternative colors
But I still can't bring myself to main him because of his new voice
God fucking damn it samuro has his original voice but I hate his voice lines because he actually pronounces them right unlike wc3
Is it just me and my autism?
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>>375601624
Diamond, play Kerrigan mostly.
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>>375601634
hanamura is essentially a "I hope you're not playing a mana intensive hero" map.
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>>375602160
>so I'm guessing he got some buffs which I'd like.
Passive spell armor and he used to have dampen magic (30 spell armor block). He was retarded to play vs as an ability dmg hero.
Hes not as good as he used to be, but hes still a great hero... unless you're playing vs all AA heros.
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>>375602375
Level 20 talents rarely matter that much since the game is usually decided by that point.
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>>375603010
Level 20 talents can turn the tide of a game. Especially for Nazeebo. So many games i've been in where a Nazeebo gets his stacks and just turns the tide of a game. Single target healers can't compete with it.
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>Main
Darkness Incarnate
>Who I hate playing against the most
Sgt. Hammer. You have to have other Heroes to group up on her, otherwise she's just gonna push your lane.
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>>375602418
When you go from
https://youtu.be/a-6g_aUh18o?t=16s

to
https://youtu.be/F2IeItmuvAE?t=3m2s

It's understandable if you hate the replacement voices.
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>>375599687
I do really enjoy how Lucio plays so similarly to his OW counterpart. They did a great job translating him and tracer into moba format
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>>375603751
I remember being butthurt about Tyrael in D3 but this is even worse
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>>375603751
I don't know if this is just nostalgia, but all the War 3 VAs feel way better and more suiting to the character then the ones they slap onto modern wow and heroes
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>>375603751
>>375603971

Probably less thought put into it considering it's not a story driven game and the voices don't really impact anything gameplay wise.
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how do you build varian for him to be such a problem? I tried him a bit but found it to be pretty middling.
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>>375604394
Pick talents against the enemy heroes,not your will
Don't get the dual blade ult unless you are gonna get that lifesteal per hit one and your team has no other sustain damage
Always get the immunity on parry instead of the charge talent
Here you go.
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>>375603751
But again there are heroes who have the same actors and some of them still aren't that good.
At least the other half of the characters on HotS have cool voices,like Gazlowe and Abathur.
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>>375595730
Vallira
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>It's a Varian, Artanis, Zarya and Tassadar episode
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>>375606063
>It's zarya,tassadar,abathur and medivh helping a chen tear you guys a new one episode
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>tfw the """""""matchmaking""""""" matches you against a five stack with two healers and your team has no healers and no parties
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>>375606967
>pick Zarya, Tassadar, Medivh, Abathur
>let game go past 5 minutes
>lose because you have no lategame and no damage other than Archon
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>>375607851
Well to be honest zarya has rather good damage and it still holds up against everything but the tanks
Also do the shields form a zarya and clone zarya stack?Or a zarya + that 20 lvl talent which lets you cast basic spells again?
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SHIT TIER
>I main assassins
>I main support

MID TIER
>I main specialists

HIGH TIER
>I main tanks/bruisers

GOD TIER
>I main everything
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Why are bruisers so fucking good in this game? Most have ways to either ignore or outright heal damage while having respectable damage output.

Some, like Dehaka, have fucking shit tons of utility to boot. So what gives? What is supposed to be their weakness?
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>>375599835
if you're still around, i love his shields and archon mode.

shields are super fucking handy on both heroes and buildings and his archon is devastating.

once you get the 2nd tier archon, you can pretty much permanently stay in that mode if you constantly have someone to attack.
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>>375609436
Tanks counter burst mages that counter sustained AA assassins that counter tanks.
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>>375609928
But bruisers are like a midway between tanks and assassins. What counters them?
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>>375599835
Tassadar is a fag enabler.

His win is dependent on teammates not being 100% retarded. Shields, wave clear, invis escapes, free vision, he is a top tier support. Not good enough to be a solo support but a roaming pair with a Tassadar will make the enemy's life miserable.

Just don't take Force Wall.
I know why you think it could be a good idea but it's not. Not until Blizzard makes it suck less.
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>>375610006
A sustained AA assassin with a healer.
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>>375608836
>main
>everything
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>>375608836
Warrior are, by far, the most satisfying to play

Being a hulking tower of fuck you and stunning puny assassins into death is the beast.

Also, I miss when ETC was a fucking powerhouse, being almost unkillable and dishing out amazing damage. I use to go ETC while my brother played Muradin, we just raped our lane and then proceeded to carry the team to victory.
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>>375595798
Who is the axe of hots
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>>375610379
Right now, no one, since we don't have Execute yet.

Artanis would be the closest I can think off.
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>rexxar
>doesn't ride mipha
shit game
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>Sonya
>Rehgar
>tank Varian
>Dehaka
Fuck Valeera, dumb slut stunning me out of my whirlwind.

>>375610379
Prot Varian is pretty close to Axe.
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Is it bad that I exclusively play as Diablo characters in this game?

I only play them since Diablo is the only Blizzard franchise I've ever touched.
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>>375611203
yes
no
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assassin when
arakkoa when
ysera when
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>>375600569
But artanis is fucking broken
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>>375611291
khadgar when
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>>375611291
Blackthorne fucking when. His inclusion has been asked for since the early alphas and Blizzard's answer has always been "He'll be in, don't worry"
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So whatever happened to pic related?
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>>375611485
He NEEDS to have the over the shoulder shotgun blast.
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>>375611568
whoops
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>>375611645
And a stealth/stasis where he sidles against a wall
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>>375608836
>SHIT TIER
>I main support

Why is this bad? from my experience in both this game and Dota, someone needs to keep everyone else alive, hell, earlier I turned a match around by keeping a tank alive while everyone else was obsessed with pushing and ignoring objectives

I do admit it's kinda bad because, at least in Dota, when someone else picks support and it's time for me to play carry, I do bad because I'm not used to it and the """support"""
just wanted to go nuking shit because their character has some attractive offensive skill
but I also think it allows me to keep an eye on everything because the playstyle forces me to do it, while playing any other role I'd probably develop a more self-centered mindset

Though I get the feeling supports aren't that prominent in this game so I take tanks whenever, but I'd like to know your reasoning, as I want to get better in both
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>>375608836
>High tier
>Tanks/Bruisers

>Shit tier
>Supports
Nigger are you fucking insane
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I never main because I spend all my time grinding heroes to five for gold.

If I were to main I guess I'd play Gul'dan or Varian.
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>>375610131

What changed to make the wall bad? I remember Archon was considered fucking garbage just a few months ago.
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Dehaka is so fun. You can just "Surprise, mothafucka" out of any brush at pretty much any time and the tongue pull punishes even slight overextension really harshly.
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i only played as lucio, d3 monk, and just tried stitches.
i like the game so far. only like level 4
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Hey. Hey kid.

Psst.

Ju wan axe?
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I really want to learn Rexxar but I have no idea what am I supposed to do.
Any tips?
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>>375613895
Make Misha stun the guy you're throwing axes at.
Hit him with the bird.
Make sure to control Misha with D constantly because she is fucking retarded.
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>>375612559
The wall didn't get worse, Archon just got much better
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>>375613895
Use Misha to annoy people, position Rexxar carefully since he himself isn't tanky at all.
Mercenary camps are really easy with Rexxar since Misha barely takes any damage from then

Aside from that its just a matter of getting used to his unique playstyle
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>>375611652
>>375611568
They combined the two genders into what we have now, Sonya.
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Got pic related from a chest. Is Falstad worth buying?
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>>375595730
>who do you main
tyrael because dispensing justice is fun but he could use a little love desu

>who do you hate playing against
sgt. hammer
at least chromie and li-ming have to aim
all hammer has to do is have vision on you then you get hit with a 800 damage auto you can't avoid
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>play an assasin
>get my ass blasted by warriors
>play a warrior
>still get my ass blasted
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>>375615007
Yes, Falstad is a strong pick and the closest you can get to a pure autohit-based hero
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give me a good support
the medic was fine, if a bit boring and cookie cutter
rehgar and brightwing were garbage
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>>375615062
Warriors wreck everyone if they have a team
Assassins wreck everyone if the enemies do not have a team
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>>375595730
Been playing Jaina. Pretty glass cannony, it's aight.
Thinking bout next hero to get. What should I get?
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>>375615126
Thanks senpai
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How do I get good as Diablo?
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>>375615454
No problem, have fun. I advise you to pick the wind-gust ultimate. You can split teams in two during a teamfight, throw valuable targets out of position or even swooce into a beaten camp, blow the enemy team away, then capture it for butthurt
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How do I talk to the enemy team?? Tab and clicking the chat thing that says allies doesn't do anything and I do not see it in the options or hotkeys either.
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>>375615520
>Go in
>Slam a bitch
>Charge a bitch
>Said bitch is now amidst your team and will be penetrated in all available holes
>Rinse and repeat
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>>375615336
What class has been your favourite so far?
Does supporting the team sound bad or do you only play dps?
Li Li's Blinding winds were buffed so you get both unless you're a
pussy.
Feel free to buy all of the cheap heroes. Maybe you'll find something you
like
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>>375615173
Brightwing is awesome you clown.

anyway, play Auriel, she's probably the most fun support out there.
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Game had no all chat which makes it turd shit.

Not only can I not congratulate a good play by my enemy but I can also not shit talk. Not to mention it feels like I'm playing bots Everytime with no emotion

Shit game
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>yfw they bring the warmth of life into your tomb
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>>375615936
Now you can shit talk and congratulate through sprays so it's a step forward. Blizzard is leftist as fuck and would never enable all chat.
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>>375615743
So I'm mostly limited to pushing and providing assists? His Lightning Breath ulti feels kinda weak too..

I mean, it's not as if I HATE giving assists and being a team player.. but I like having my ego stroked too.
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>start playing due to genji promotion
>actually have fun, unlike my experience with DOTA

My only question is will I receive more rare crates at any point? I wanted to reroll it by my teammates were screaming at me to start so I ended up with a diablo legendary while not even owning that character
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>>375615173

auriel; no fucking mana required, give them the clap, give them the whip, heal bombs. a mage-y healer

kharazim: blink around punching shit and healing. melt even tanks with 7SS. a punch-y healer.

i got way more healing per game done even on my first games as these two compared to lili and tyrande. i think those are easy to play but in turn are actually quite shit.
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>>375616015
Too bad when they die they can't see your spray. Also doesn't help that all the sprays are god ugly and dumb.

There is all chat in WoW, overwatch, and hearthstone. Why do they only not have it for one game
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>>375615761
I don't know. i like just killing things in this game desu, that and not dying.
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>>375616101
You're a tank. you're here to disrupt the enemy team, soak the damage so your more squishy teammates don't bite it. I'll all about, well, being a tank. charging and bitch-slamming the assassins.
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>>375616250
Gotta do it mid fight then.

>>375616378
Yeah, definitely try a hybrid then. Sonya's pretty cool, Muradin's cool. Li Li's cool.
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No all chat no buy.

How do I conduct good sportsmanship by wishing them a good game and virtually shaking their hand at the end of the match by saying gg. How do I tell them good show when they bust out a combo that kills me. How do I just talk to them so I feel like they are alive and not robots?

Fuck this game and fuck the shills in this thread
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i just started playing with friends

i guess i need to get my characters to level 5 but i enjoy artanis diablo and muradin

anyone have recommendations ?
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>>375616656
>Blizzard secretly inflates the numbers by actually having you vs bots but randomize their names so you think they are people
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>be me
>playing qm
>medivh on my team so i know i have to carry twice as hard
>game is going good until level 10
>suddenly enemy team simply can't die in teamfights
>some sick saves going on where they dodge all our spells with some invulnerability ability
>wonder which heroe does it
>after they run over us with full HP for the tenth time and end the game i go look it up
>it's our medivh who saved them every fucking time

How could they make a hero this fucking useless and let him loose in pubs? He should be banned from non draft modes if not altogether.
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>>375616656
It's strange that chat is in Starcraft and Overwatch but not this. Maybe the MOBA audience is just too TOXIC, even compared to FPS and RTS crowds
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How do I make this game interactive?

It feels like I'm just watching things happen, even when I'm playing.
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>>375617061
Get better? Team fights are a mess with tonnes of spells going back and forth so it will take a time before you can properly control them.
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>>375610379
Why not E.T.C?
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>>375617061
By interacting?
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>>375617061

Quit smoking weed.
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do i put too much value on the pve? i feel like my first decision is usually to pick up an empty lane/obj and i mostly have highest siege/xp and then often not very good hero damage. if i'm playing a tank or healer i feel slightly more compelled to just go wherever there is people to help, even though you are usually running to a lost fight.

everyone else just seems to click where they see people on the map and go start hitting buttons until they die.

>>375616656

life is a simulation anyway man
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not my most played but my favorite hero by far, followed by naznegro
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>>375617061
>>375617148

its pretty funny cos i smoke and this game puts me into a weird zone during good games. i don't even see my mouse cursor or anything, its almost like i'm spaced out and just watching, but everything is somehow happening perfectly.

yesterday i was the solo player with a stack, versus another stack, and it was a well played game. i was auriel and literally my team would all hone in around me as my heal was .5s left on CD, get healed, then all peel off again like some kinda synchronized swimming shit, for the whole match. they were some kinda perfectly scripted AI.
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>>375615062
>Melee Assassin
Let warriors/tanky heros engage and intercept someone you think you can take out within your CDs

>Warrior
Start a fight when you have team backup and us your crowd control to isolate and weaken someone for your team, save mobility to get the fuck out if needed

>>375616101
For Diablo maximizes his stuns and get the stun everyone ult, it seems easy to dodge but if you pop it right as everyone is in the middle of a fray/using their ults you can pull off stunning the entire team, especially if they're overlapped and the stun gets a fuckhuge radius
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>>375617061
Abathur use your symbiote goddamnit fucking little shit just give me the symbiote and shoot spikes for fuck's sake and stop laning top the entire match
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>>375617986
That abby could be a locus build.
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>>375617876

yeah the global stun is good. E with slow into R is almost guaranteed and if they try to walk out you can Q them.
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>>375596972
Considering what Dota 2 is now, I think Blizz is fine without him.
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>>375615743
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I play MY waifu, obviously. But also.play.abbey, murky, and.the lost.vikings, as well.ad.ming, KT and jaina in.ranked
Anyone.who.is.stealth is.fucking.cancer, everyone who.plays nova or.zeratul.should kill themselves
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>>375595730
Jaina, Uther, lunara
Pretty much hate playing against anyone now adays as lunara.
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>>375618363

brother u are drunk my brother

i got goblin skin 1st day and lewd gypsy skin 2nd day from boxes, feels good.
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>>375615743
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help
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>>375617858

I have the same thing in Overwatch. Being relaxed and not stressing out over the game seems to make me play better even despite the reduced reaction time, etc. caused by being high.
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>>375603751
Its the same voice actor funnily enough.
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>>375618635

hang in there
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How is Joanna? Was maining her a while back, really enjoyed her.

Might update the game and give it a go.
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>>375618635
I have the same thing happening to me, what the hell is going on?
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>playing Kael'thas
>have 20 stacks, some living bomb talents
>D living bomb, living bomb, phoenix, throw a random flamestrike
>run away like a bitch
>triple kill or more

life is good in Quel'thalas
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>>375595730
I'm only playing for the D.Va skin and Overwatch loot boxes. When the event is over I'm uninstalling. I hate these cross-game events. Forced to play something that isn't even fun.
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>>375619059

sort of turned it around later

i suppose its like a fruit machine, its ready to pay up after it takes all your money.
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>>375595730
>who do you main
Been playing plenty of Genji recently, his mobility is great, but before that I played Tychus and Sgt. Hammer
>who do you hate playing against
Sylvanas because the second you look away she's already taken a fort, and Chomie, because fuck her nukes
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>>375601634
I like the eternal battlegrounds with the fighting immortals, I hate Towers of Doom, but Hanamura is my new least favorite
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>>375615936
You're the kind of player they don't want playing. Seems like a great decision to me.
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>>375620386

Does anyone like Hanamura? It's fucking awful.
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>>375595730
i main raynar and varian

i hate playing against nobody so far
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>>375621110
Payloads don't feel right in HotS, I agree. I like the aesthetic a lot though.
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>main
Don't really main anyone, but mostly rotate Tracer, Lucio, Diablo, Witch Doctor more than other characters.

>hate against
Samuro. Good ones make it really tough to tell which one is the real fuck, and are out before I can properly focus (unless there's a better way to tell that I'm unaware of). Should probably have a good AoE guy to deal with? I dunno.
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I've always been attracted to fast characters, so Tracer has become my favorite in both OW and HotS. Great job they did implementing the OW heroes.

Trying to get good enough with her and Kerrigan to graduate to all PVP games. If I like these characters, who would y'all recommend I play with? Got the assassin bundle.
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>>375616890
>saved
Mutherfucker, its not like its Tyrael's santification, its stasis like a Chromie trap. The point is to line them all up so that once Ley Line Seal wears off you can either
A)Kill em one at a time as they come out if they're separated enough
B)Smash em with AoE if they come out all at once
I'm not saying medivh is good by any stretch but he, and you guys for that matter, were playing wrong if ley line seal was saving fucks.
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>>375599158
>/v/ is one person
I enjoyed the game, I just never got invested enough to defend it.
On topic:
Chromie
That cunt Valeera.
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>>375615761
Probably cute and fuzzy
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I only play Varian. Because he is completely balanced. >:)
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>picked Colussus Smash on Varian
>guy starts complaining in team chat
I don't understand? I'm new to the game, though.
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>play quickmeme
>5 assassins vs 5 assassins
>enemy has Valeera and Varian
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Thanks to HotS now im replaying Warcraft 3 again.

Warcraft 4 when?
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>Legendary in chest
>Oh boy hope it's a skin for my waifu
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>>375621110
I feel if the payloads did damage to the most forward fort instead of the core it would be a lot more fun.
I don't know though, I'm not even high enough to play comp.
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>>375622397
Of the 3, C.Smash is probably the worst of his ults. Especially if he was expecting you to tank and pick up taunt.
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>>375621638
Yeah I fucking get that you dumb fuck. Point is that he's like Zera on steroids with that ult when it comes to inadvertently saving enemies.

>new game
>medivh on enemy team
>plays like a god
>mvp
>still loses because he's medivh
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>>375619059
Who should i buy next?
Im getting bored of my tank pack
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>>375622552
>Warcraft 4 when?
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>>375622470
maybe you shouldnt play assassin then, fucknugget.
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>>375619059
>>375622731
Oh shit nigga, didnt meant to quote you
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>>375622731
How dank do you want it?

>Medium dank:
Nazeebo
>High dank
Tychus
>Gigadank
Gul'dan
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>quickplay
>it takes 5 minutes to find a match
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>>375599158
The problem with the game before was that the grind to unlock heroes was ridiculously tedious if you didn't want to pay money

Now you get a fuckload for free, and by leveling heroes you have a pretty decent chance of getting more, you can also get stimpacks from chests which stack and make the grind far less tedious in general.

I went from 6 heroes to 36 with the patch.
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>>375595730
I've played dota since 2005. however, dota 2 is officially dead to me ever since the 7.00 patch. will I enjoy heroes of the storm, or will its lack of depth just piss me off? my main heroes in dota were stuff like invoker, furion, chen, pudge, etc. micro/apm heroes with high skill ceilings.
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>>375615520
This is how I come on an slam

>Lvl 1
Glob talent, nothing else is that good compared to it at 100 stacks

>Lvl 4
Depends, if you need more cc, slam now slows. If you want to be in their face faster, longer charge range.

>Lvl 7
Autos reduces charge and slam CD.

>Lvl 10
Depends. If you want more cc, global stun. If you want kills, spit fire.

>LvL 13
stomping gives fire aura.

>Lvl 16
Damage reduction/ attack speed slow when you get hit. Never die again unless you do something stupid.

>Lvl 20
Steal nigga's health, add it to yours.
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>>375599295
>port demon hunter into hots
>don't use the superior male demon hunter model
>use the dumb edgy bimbo model instead
>don't give her rapid fire
>don't give her chakram
>don't give her the raven companion
>don't give her the cluster fucking arrow aka the most satisfying ability in the game
>pick 4 of the most boring abilities in diablo 3 and give them to her

im still mad
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>>375618363
well yea all the stealth heros fuck chromie super hard. Getting the reveal level one is probably your best bet.
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>>375618363
Like nigga just skill shot them out of stealth like they're right there shit
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>play leoric
>drain some souls
>top damage top damage taken every time
It feels good being the king
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>>375623532
Start with The Lost Vikings and Cho'Gall if you got a friend.
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>>375623704
>Reveal can see through stealth
I always knew I was kind of a dumbass, had no idea I was just a complete retard.
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>>375598328
stitches is cool when you are landing hooks and tanking obscene amounts of damage but then when things go south his team fight is literal shit.
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>>375624048
Whenever there's a stealth hero you can also always just not tunnel and focus on where they'd try to come from behind you, once you get the hang of it skillshotting someone out of it becomes cake
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>so tight
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>>375624136
literal shit?
he starts pooping on them?
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>>375622936
I guess they realise that the money doesn't roll in from unlocking heroes, but in unlocking skins from lootboxes... cause I'm getting pretty close there. Never bought a lootbox for Overwatch, but I'm pretty damn close with Heroes of the Storm, since in overwatch you hardly see the skins, but in HotS it's mandatory. also those skins are pretty bitching.
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Who are the top tier heroes /v/? Last time I played was around two years ago
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>>375624249
yes but not in a good way
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>>375624368
oh no
OH NO!
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>>375624198
you are dumb desu
chromies can't win vs any stealth hero 1v1 even if she hits both breath and sand blast. and in the middle of a team fight they can usualy just waltz at you and fuck you if you spend any time at all trying to kill the rest of their team
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>>375624441
You don't have to win, you smack them out of it and back off; and if you're looking for it it's still pretty easy to spot a stealth hero mid-fight, just don't tunnel and git gud
>>
which is best siege hero?
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Starting to get the hots (hehe get it??) for Lunara. Is she viable? I just love chasing people down and negating their stealth or jukes with the poison.
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>>375624615
depends on the map
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>getting absolutely demolished the entire game
>even considered quitting
>win
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>>375624615
Depends, sieging out heroes or just demolishing towers?
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>>375624528
right but in a normal game with no stealth hero chromies can just focus entirely on team fighting, with a stealth hero they have to be twice as aware and in many cases cannot even engage in team fights until the stealthy is found.
>>375624615
ragnoros probably
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>>375624739
For better or worse, HotS has the best/most consistent comeback mechanics. The only map the comeback mechanic isn't good enough for is the infernal summoning one, and even there I've been in a match that went from us at 14 them at 17 to us winning.
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>>375624739
Never give up. This game has sick comeback mechanics.
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>>375624739
>quitter
also coming back from a defecite is actually not that bad in this game despite what people say, all you need to do is make it a 5v4 situation by killing someone who's being a bit sloppy/overconfidant and you can overcome even 3-4 level differences.
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>>375624752

jokes on you stealthies, i can teamfight from my own fort.
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>>375624441
Sounds like you suck with chromie, because anyone that's played her for more than 10 games can skillshot, timetrap or just plain smash a single stealther. Plus, sand blast and dragon's breath will take off at least 80% of a stealther's health, causing them to run - unless you don't know how to build her.
>>
I don't get how you can have fun playing a game that's so.. unsatisfying.
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>>375624934
I made a really sick comeback last night. I remember when the game was in beta, there was no comeback mechanics or big plays that could change the whole game.

Now it's like a completely different game and it's awesome.
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>>375623532
Same boat as you. I felt disgusting picking up HoTS shouting casual at everything. Now I'm hooked to this game. Team fights can have the same level of depth as Dota had.

I'd say try Sylvanas shes is everything you'd ever want from a rat in Dota
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>>375624934
The time they spent damaging diablo at all there lost them that
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>>375624974
sounds like a garbage stealth player, since any single one of them could still kill chromie with 20% life remaining.
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>>375625147
and illidan diving into the lightning breath for no reason instead of standing on the other side of the core in total safety
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>>375624739
Pretty much the only reason I connect with this game
>Play league for a day
>Spend an hour each game to lose
>HotS
>You gotta keep a grip the entire game or you'll get the win swiped from you
>You can make a comeback at any time, just keep your eye out and hopes up
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>>375625234
with timewalker's pursuit at level 1 and time trap it should be almost impossible for any stealth hero to get anywhere near chromie or even chromie's team without being revealed
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Did you want to make it to the Tribute before me?

Too bad.
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>>375625409
hold my beer
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>>375625356
again sounds like a garbage stealth player, any kind of decent not plat or lower stealthy will wait until the right moment to strike, and chromie has to be constantly aware of this. If your team is coordinated then it shouldn't be too bad but if any nbumber of your team is dead chromie has no choice but to retreat.
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>>375625409
>>375625517
Outta the way
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>>375603751
Artanis's voice was completely butchered from SC1 was well

>Direct my wrath
>For Aiur
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>>375625584
no, you don't understand - chromie can globally reveal a stealth hero with timewalker's, and can just stand on a trap whenever she doesn't know where the stealth player is. There's no 'playing around' it. Because of traps, chromie is probably one of the worst heroes to try and sneakily assassinate with stealth.
Obviously, anything will work in QM where chromies don't even take timewalker's against triple stealth but she is really very good against them.
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>>375595730
>redownload to check out the 2.0 hype
>Nova still exists
>uninstall
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>>375618635
>>375619059
My worst losing streak was back in the preseason when ranks went from 1-50. I fell from rank 1 all the way down to rank 12 before I finally stabilized and managed to claw my way back to rank 1 again.
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>>375626316
Nova is literally a worse Valeera though
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>>375624659
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>>375622891
>not Gul'dank
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>>375608836
Specialist mains are invariably the worst players. People who pick azmodan or murky and go dedicated push and ignore every team fight have been the cause of many losses and few wins. I don't think azmodan is a shitty hero, but I know it's a free win when I see one on the other team because he attracts morons.
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>>375626451
Nova at least has a sick teamfight ult that can make her viable later when valeera falls off.
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>>375600407
>Level 3 hero with no escapes channelling under her towers
Doesn't open with cheap shot instantly killing butcher and saving her fort

>Butcher the drain tank of the game only survives because of block instead of destroying her and walking away with full health

These are the people who complain about elo hell.
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>>375626316
Nova has been nerfed to the point she's barely a playable character if you lose to nova you probably should uninstall.
Also
>Not being able to see the shimmer.
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>>375622652
I opened a fuckton of chests due to veteran shit. I got so many awful waifu skins, I have like 3 cheerleaders and some other garbage. They always popped up on the last reroll too.
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>>375626682

they are just roleplaying as azmodan.
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>>375626682
>Azmodan slams a dunk on your entire team as the fight starts and then lasers some retards shit in
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>>375622470
At least they changed it from the alpha/early release where QP was just a role of the dice if you got a healer or tass/tyrande to instantly decide if you won or lost.
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>>375626983
FOOLISH NEPHALIM, DID YOU THINK I NEEDED MY CORE!?

>>375627167
Yeah, that's why I say he's not a bad hero, he just attracts bad players.
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>>375595730
>Tanks
Artanis, Arthas, Diablo
>Assassins
Li Ming, Thrall, Kerrigan on the rare occasion
>Specialist
Nazeebo, Hammer
>Support
Uther ERRY DAY ERRY DAY

Hate fighting Ragnaros, Butcher, Murky and Chogall.
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>>375626682
As a Murky player I resent that remark.

What do you want more the first raven spawn/punisher or towers, the second spawn or a fort?

Also
>Main
Chen and/or Kerrigan with a splash of Alarak

>Hate
Jaina because fuck that 4 second slow
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>>375622652
Why would you ever be mad to get a hero from a chest? I'm honestly more disappointed to get legendary skins for heroes I don't like.
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>>375627724
That's fine dude. I used to be diamond back when I played I know how the hero works. But eventually at some point you have to show up to fights or your team loses.
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>>375624358
>best Supports
Malfurion is always and forever above the others
>best Warriors
Anub'arak, Dehaka, Arthas, Prot Varian
>best Assassins
Falstad, Greymane, Gul'dan
>best Specialists
Probius, Nazeebo
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>>375618145
>Change is bayud!
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>>375628085
Only times I've abandoned my teams were when they couldn't win the objectives and I could just push down forts anyways.

Usually though I just harass assassins who are trying to poke and give people like illidan or genji the tentacle if they get too close to the team.
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>>375628346
Change isn't bad, the changes made to Dota 2 are indeed bad.
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>>375628346
>change for the sake of change is good
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>>375595730
I don't play MOBAs because they're shit

When does week 2 start so I can throw 5 games for DVa skin
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>>375628401
So you play murky as intended, congrats. Please pass the message along to your people. Oh, also tell them that just because you're not worth a ton of exp, it's not mandatory to suicide yourself in every 30 seconds to land a single ability.
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>qm
>chogal on the enemy team
>we have no sustained dps heroes

Thanks for that fun round blizz.
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>>375599959
>.gif
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>>375628612
I play HOTS and I'll agree that mobas are fairly shit. But Overwatch is right in that shitheap too.
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>>375595730>

>who do you main
>main anyone at all and not having a broad list of picks

>who do you hate playing against
an enemy team coordinated when your team is mass of stupid fucks.

>>375626682

>People who pick azmodan or murky and go dedicated push and ignore every team fight have been the cause of many losses and few wins
When the enemy is completely made of burst stuff, you want to push the shitout of everything so one or more people have to leave the teamfight to reduce the wreckage you might have caused.
If the team is retarded and can't fight long enough to let murky or azmodan to push, they deserve the loss.
Also that depends on the match, hero compositions and mostly importantly, map.
I might partecipate the teamfights if the enemy team is mostly physical damage, i go fishtank and see how they struggle to even scratch a fucking murloc.if it's medium/small map.
Maps like cursed hollow are sort of think at the moment: i always help cover the first two points and if they can do it even without me, then i push hoping to get 3th point and reach pretty much the second fort of the lane.
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>>375628793
I'll take a bad class-based shooter over the best MOBA on earth any day

week 2 challenge when
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>>375595730
>get diamond last 2 seasons
>barely play
>get put in plat 4
fucking hell
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>>375628896
Class based shooters are the lowest tier of shooter though (arena shooter is the highest if you're curious).
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>>375608836
Prime Evil tier
>I main Diablo
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>>375628710
Fuck that, imagine how much worse the game would be if people actually knew how to play specialists.
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>>375624441
Take Bronze Talons if you hit your skillshots bronze talons can usually get the kill or at least make them want to retreat.
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Tyrael

Genji is cancer
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>its a game with two stealther on enemy team
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>>375629004
wednesday, but you should have started already since if you havent done week 1 you have to do week 1's first. so it will be 10 games.
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>>375629350
Easy to counter cancer
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>need friends to do the challenges
kill me
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>>375595730
The Lost Vikings, usually

But I hate Valeera, even is she's in my team during QM
In ranked, I rarely see them tho.
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>>375595730
I think its fucking gay that you only get 1 quest a day. I complete that quest in 30 min and dont touch the game again for the entire day
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>>375629371
>Draft
>Enemy team picks all the stealthies
>Ok so we'll just pick skillshot AoE/reveal heroes an-
>Entire team instalocks auto attack heroes or low AoE skillshots
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>>375629673
>not swallowing your pride and taking Drone malfurion to guarantee a win.
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>>375610131
wall is good, you just have to use it right, you cant wall a 100% hp enemy without backup. You can trap 3-4 people in a closed space or stop someone escaping with 40% hp
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I just picked it up, maining Zarya for now. Her shield mechanics are pretty similar to OW and she was my main there too, so I feel pretty effective right off the bat. Usually I just like to pick a high damage assassin and babysit them with my shields until we win the game.
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>>375629371
>>375629673
>its a hanamura with enemy stealth heroes

WHY IS THE GROUND SO SMOOTH AND ITS HARD TO SEE STEALTH? WHERE ARE THE DETAILS?

>6 map rotation
>its braxis hanamura and towers of doom
>have to put up with this shit till 15th
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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I main the slug but don't play him as much anymore because the quickmatch changes making him count as a sustain hero. I get matched against tyrande and I need to get the heal shield so our team can keep up its a good talent but I don't like being forced to take it.

I hate Genji he is not that dangerous or I just have not seen a good one and every time I try to engage on him he just warps away unless you cc him.
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>>375629847
>its a hanamura round where the enemy team don't push payload to gank more
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>>375628419
Sucks you feel that way, friend. Either way DotA would have been a very lucrative venture for Blizzard. HotS isn't nearly as successful.
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I just got the diablo prime evil skin
IT'S SO FUCKING COOL HOLY FUCK
Coolest shit in the game by far

Also play unranked guys, quick match takes a long time because people are playing either unranked or ranked

Also I think it's great there's no all chat
The game isn't as toxic and short matches help that too
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i wonder if the shills got a payrise or if blizz just hired more of you ;P
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>>375630159
But that mount animation lol SKITTERSKITTERSKITTER I AM STEALTH DIABLO
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I bought $100 worth of gems and used it all on loot chests.
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>play anub arak
>statistically the most hp hero bar none
>every game is awful
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>pick brightwing
>everyone tells me she is a shit healer
>win

>pick raynor
>everyone tells me he is a shit assassin
>win

>pick tassadar
>everyone tells me he is shit after nerfs
>win

>pick dps lili before buffs
>everyone tells me she is dogshit no dmg no healing
>win
>get a small buff to E and now apparently she is broken and banworthy

>mfw top 30 GM playing "shit" heroes
Raynor does actually suck though
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>>375630192
i got an $0.63 increase
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>>375629669
Sounds like you don't like the game.
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>>375630140
HotS is literally 100% free fanservice. It doesn't have to make billions. It just has to be a fun way to pass the time. Which it is.
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>>375595730
>who do you main
Samuro, any other hero I play just doesn't have the same control over the match that he does
>who do you hate playing against
That over powered piece of shit Varian.
Even when I'm three levels above him he can still win fights
>whatever
When is Cursed Hollow getting replaced? It's the only snowbally objective left.
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>>375630452
Raynor does actually suck though
He's basic af but good against dive comps. Pick him with stitches and bright wing and never die.
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>pick heroes that team needs
>have an abathur and nova on my team every game

Fuck this
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>>375629442
best way to shit on genji?
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>>375630635
Not saying it isn't, just laughing at anyone who thinks DotA isn't successful.
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>>375630635

This. It's fun and passes the time well. It gets MVP for fun.
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>>375630656
>cursed hollow
>snowball

Only if you're terrible.
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>>375630721
Stun and silence him
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>>375623532
Hots is just way too different to be comparable. It certainly doesn't have the same amount of depth, but there are also a lot of interesting hero designs that Dota doesn't have any equivalents of.

It also doesn't take 50 minutes per match, so that's a plus.
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>>375630721
Uther, Diablo, Etc. Stuns.
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>>375630670
He isn't good against dive at all. He can only survive backline assassins if you take all the adrenaline rush talents, which means you do zero damage. Plus his heroics are fucking garbage.

Maybe if they gave him some useful abilities and brought back the Q build he could be decent. I also have no idea why he doesn't have stim
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>>375630670
Why does he suck?
He can buff himself all day long and his team in teamfights which helps a metric fucking ron

His ult is great are going for heroes running away and his Q is very flexible in use and build options

And his range and vision also help

Don't see what's bad about him, I love the hero one of my faves for sure
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>>375630548
>hear about all those maps
>currently available are 3 maps that are decided on first objective, tutorial map that is your only choice for X first games and 2 other maps that i dont even remember because you get fucking towers of doom all the time
>hanamura doesnt even look like in overwatch
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>>375623532

You'll love hots.
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>>375630843
>>375630864
thanks guys
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>tfw deflecting Cassia's charge
Get out of here girl
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Your map is now Hanamura. Again.
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>>375630989
I have enough dollar coins to buy Genji. Should I?
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>>375630989
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7EAdPyxXrM
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>>375630818
>Only if you're terrible.
Same thing was said about Blackheart's Bay, Dragon Shire, and Garden of Terror
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>>375630894
He does no damage until 13, and still doesn't hit very hard until 16. His heroics are awful especially compared to RoV/Strafe or Odin. His W is a shit ability and his E doesn't make up for him not having a dash.

He's basically an ultra late game carry but games at a high level don't always go to 16 let alone 20. Even at 20 he has trouble killing the pure tanks. Also gets fucked hard by blinds since he doesn't have any alternative builds like Valla does (Zul'jin has this problem as well). He needs a talent rework and some useful heroics
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>it's a nova on my team episode
>ez loss
>50% of teamfight damage done as tank/bruiser
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How do I git gud with Valla? I always move and shoot when I'm chasing targets , but if you go full trait upgrades it's really hard to keep up the tempo. Maybe I'm using wrong talents, idk.
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It's great that HOTS doesn't try to be DOTA

When I tried it years ago I saw it as a stripped down dota, but now I realized they streamlined it so matches are quick and exciting

The focus is on teamfights with all the dota "fat" cut out with some new things that dota simply doesn't have

Pretty fun game, and it's so amazing how they do respect to the heroes they add

All the overwatch heroes have made a perfect transition into hots without losing their original form, some are even more fun/complex in hots
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Genji's dash needs to be shorter
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>>375631364

Yeah it's long as fuck. Teleport halfway across the screen.
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>>375631157
Is there sign of him getting a rework?
Is that something hots devs do often?
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>>375626682
>objective pops up
>"You guys get that, i'll push here"
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>>375631345
>wahh why isn't hots like dota/los in x regard
>im not playing it shit game

>meanwhile, in an alternative universe
>wahh why should i play hots over dota/lol when it's similar in x regard

Whiners will always whine and should not be listened to.
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Raynor is good, you just have to take all of his damage enhancing passives and banshees.
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>>375631345
>mfw actually considering playing to week of Nexus challenge
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All of raynor's damage is from auto attacks.
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>>375616163

Rare crates happen every 10 or 5 levels, epic crates happen every 25
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Is this game worth getting into? Is it easier to pick up than Dota 2 and LoL?

I play Paragon, but I'm looking for another game to get competitive in as well.
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Gugonut is my prefered source for unsolicited Raynor advice.
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Main azmo and zag

Hate samuro and medivh
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>>375630656

i'm not sure i really like a lot of the new maps. they are better than some of the old ones, but it's the core design approach i have issue with. i think there is an ideal balance between fighting/laning, and the map objective. the new philosophy is often that the map objective is a direct winning condition (take the thing to shoot the core), rather than being an indirect winning condition (take the thing to push lanes in your favor).

you see this problem in a lot of PvP, like WoW BGs. i'm sure we've all played the PvP where each team goes merry go round in opposite directions because fighting is a waste of time.

hopefully the objectives are something that give fights and laning momentum, and forces decision-making. without objectives theres no context and its just an arena brawl, but if the objective is too binary i feel like that actually detracts from what everyone loves doing; building talents and fighting people.

i feel like forgoing some objectives if you have like a great lane pushing team, should be almost as viable as 5'ing all the things. but as this point maybe this is getting more like dota and not what they want from hots.
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>>375631472
They rework heroes all the time, but usually they tunnel vision only a small handful and rework them like eight times a year. Like Tass and KT have have their talents overhauled about a billion times. I'm sure Raynor is on their radar but I wouldn't expect changes every time soon.

>>375631559
I pick Raynor all the time in GM but that doesn't change the fact that there is literally no reason to pick him if Valla, Tychus or Greymane are open. Even Lunara is probably stronger right now.
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>>375630192
I'm getting paid in lootboxes
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>>375595730
>Main
Chen

>Hate
Stuns
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>>375616163
Listen up nigger
Rare crate is each 5 profile levels
Every 25 you get 150 gems and an epic crate

But also, for every 5 hero levels you'll also get 1 rare crate for that hero
That means 1 item in it will be 100% for that hero

And every 10th hero level you get 500 gold

Heros level into infinity and xp needed for a full level caps at level 12 at 1.200.000 xp
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I haven't really played enough to have a main but my favorites are Valeera, Ragnaros, and Diablo.

I do not like it when people play Medivh.
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>>375631774

It's just how I play him... get all his damage passives, banshees.

>hit w
>a click auto attack on hero
>r click banshee on hero
>hero dies or uses an escape
>chew up tanks because they don't have escaped

Q is just extra.
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>>375631813
This is why the payload map needs to fucking go.
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the main thing I like about HotS compared to other MOBAs is the games are 20 minutes maximum instead of 20 minutes minimum
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>>375595730
im happy arthas and uther are good again after being shit for so long
also i main the best character blizzard has made in years
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>>375631765
Just try it its free
Hurry so you can get a free bundle of 20 heroes

>>375631813
I do agree with this, altho the amount of those kind of maps isn't large to get that worried

The altar map where each does -/+ damage depending on how many towers you destroyed is very interesting had some great matches on that

Hamamura also is, even tho not some perfect design, at least a new experience

As long as they keep it in check I think it'll be fine
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>>375631059
No, just level your 20 free heroes till you get enough loot boxes that Genji slips out of one like a fetus and right into your roster.
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>>375632121
I had a 50 minute match in HotS one time. It was horrible.
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>>375632050
>chew up tanks
Yea, I'd love to see you try and kill Varian/Muradin/Johanna/Arthas with any decent support, let alone double support or Zarya. It's impossible, especially late game where Raynor is supposed to be a tank shredder.
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>>375631892
>Tychus

Wait, did they rework him?
Last time I played he was the worst hero in the game I think
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>>375631813
>the new philosophy is often that the map objective is a direct winning condition (take the thing to shoot the core), rather than being an indirect winning condition (take the thing to push lanes in your favor).

This shit drives me up the fucking wall. I hate the spooky map thats like this (I forget the real name) and the new payload map.
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How do I use Leoric right?
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>>375632310

He is a tank shredder, kills them in seconds.

Get all his damage passives.. lemme find it.
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>>375625639
I like morales but I haven't tried the dropship ult, does it land and after 10 seconds it takes me to wherever I want?
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>>375632310
Why would Raynor be able to take on a tank and a healer on his own?
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>>375632448
I know how the hero works you fucking gorilla. I've played hundred of games with him; you cannot kill those tanks lategame with Raynor. They are completely invincible and will literally just walk away when they get low
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>>375632259
Ok, will do. What is the best use for premium currency? Skins?
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>It's a Leoric thinks he literally can't die and has quadruple the number of deaths as the next person up episode
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>>375631472

They do it often but Raynor doesn't need it, he's just right click man, the most basic of heroes.
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>>375632497
Try 1v1ing a lvl20 Arthas, Muradin or Varian as Raynor and let me know how it goes. Guarantee you don't even get them to 50%
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Why are the lost vikings called that if they never lose?
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This is how I play raynor

Seasoned marksman
Focused attack
Revolution overdrive or (fight or flight)
Raynors raiders
Giant killer
Executioner
Nexus frenzy


He's just a move/a click the hero.
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>>375632745

You are not supposed to 1v1 with Raynor, you are just supposed to auto attack from afar during team fights
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>>375632521

lol whatever, check your tiny nerd dick.
>>
>H-H-Hey man

What did Raynor mean by this?
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>>375595730
>who do you main
Zul'Jin

>who do you hate playing against
Ant of those awful out of place overwatch heros
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I can't decide if the Overwatch map is hype or trash. It feels extremely bad to be behind on, but getting double fort into 2 payloads into boss lethal was amazing.
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I'm starting to get good at Abathur, but what the fuck are you supposed to use his mines for?
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>>375632531

so its kinda weird. gems is for heroes, chests, and featured items. featured items are heroes, skins, mounts. otherwise all the other vanity stuff is shards only, gold is for heroes and rerolling chests, which are where you get shards.

chests you get a steady supply of from playing if you don't want to buy them, its a nice Pavlovian response and you get tones of nice stuff. i think they have better vanity items than OW right now, which are full of trash.

as far as i can tell, they've actually made it a cunt for people with money to get their skins. you have to buy chests and bank shards which takes ages, or wait for them to feature.

so anyway, with free gems just save them for a featured item you want. with real money gems, buy your hero you want or go mad with chests.
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>>375633121
Yea true
At least it's something really new
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i want to try this game, but my experiences with moba's are so cancerous (community) that i think this will just be the same, or am i mistaking?
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>>375633125

fill every bush with fear you fucking slug.
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Build Drain Hope and be sure to land it in a fight. Next step just be in the way for people
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>>375632932
Right and how do you do that when double tank jumps on you from 1000 miles away, Artanis/Lili blind you for five hours, and you're permaslowed with no dash to kite? Raynor needs an extremely specific teamcomp to actually be safe in the backline, and you're basically throwing the game until 16 since he is dogshit until executioner. Half my hero league games don't even make it to 16. He's a shit pick right now
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>>375633290

Hots is the least cancerous, and it's fun even if you lose.

Blizzard got it right.

It's more fun when you win ofc.
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What is the most embarrassing moment in HotS, and why is it being killed by a melee attack from Abathur?
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>>375633290
HOTS isn't toxic as a moba since games are quick
Also no all chat
I thought I would mind that but I really don't miss it or care
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>>375617061
>I've never played an RTS before
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I've been playing Genji in QM
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>>375633538
Is there really no all chat? I thought my game was just buggy. It's weird since there's a command for it in the options, but it does nothing.
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>>375633708
The game uses the starcraft 2 engine
There's a few more options that are in the menus that do nothing in hots
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>>375633516
I love scratching people to death with my little T-rex arms.
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>>375633708
Are you sure you're not talking about the option to enable/disable team chat?
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>>375633538
i fucking wish there was all chat shit talking is the best part about these fucking games
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>>375633821
No, in the hotkeys menu it says Shift+Enter is supposed to bring up all chat.
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>>375633708
The all chat is used for custom games only.
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>>375630771
Nobody thinks that. But that doesn't mean that Dota 2 hasn't started going down the route TF2 did.
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>>375633947
Oh right. All chat exists it's just not usable in matchmaking.
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I got into the game a few days ago i picked kerrigan and cant seem to find anyone else who clicks with me
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Post your favorite lines

>Ayyyyy am the true lord of hell
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>>375634296
TAAAAAAZZZZ'DINGO!
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>>375633185
Ok, thanks for the explanation, anon.
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>it says on my profile i've played for 1 year
>i just dl once a while back and quit within 3 days

I hope people cant see this and expect me to be good.
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Is azmodan worth 150 gems?
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>>375603751
>it's the same voice actor
FUCK
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Is the genji skin still available or did it change to dva
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>>375633391

>Lili
>in hero league

Raynor just need a strong frontline
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Former Dota2, LoL player here.
Quit both because I had to spend hours researching new item builds etc after each balance update to stay competitive.
HotS is super casual compared to those and that's why I like it.
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>>375634920
I mean i know this is bait but HoTS is far less casual than either of those games
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>>375634768
WC3 was Steve Blum. HotS is Darin De Paul.
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>>375626316
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kC33z1cgfpM
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>>375622932
Well it's quickplay not quickwait.
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playing it for the overwatch skins

why is this game so fucking boring though
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>>375622932
It depends on what hero you pick.
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>>375635186
kek sure:
lasthit, deny, choose the right items, buy and use wards on a HUGE map

vs

choose skills lol
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>>375622932
Play unranked, takes 5 seconds
And unranked is just better qp anyway
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>>375635514
Probably because you suck at it.
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You have TEN seconds to name an easy to play hero that I would enjoy if I play Valla and Diablo
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Everything about 2.0 is good, except for two things; Hanamura map and D.va as a character. Hanamura is the least fun map, and it's not even nicely designed. D.va is another Overwatch character, adding TWO fucking Overwatch characters at the same time (though D.va isn't actually out, despite Blizz anouncing her the same time as Genji).

There's a bunch of Diablo characters that can still be added, including generic classes like Nazeebo and Cassia. There's 5000+ Warcraft characters we could get including Kel'Thuzad and Bolvar Fordragon, even fucking Mankrik's Wife (please don't actually happen). I'm sure even more characters exist from other Blizzard games, as well as maps.

Frozen Throne map when?

>>375636173
Illidan, Auriel, Azmodan, and Artanis. All four are insanely easy to play, very easy to understand, and fun to play. Stupid frogposter.
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>>375636050
Unranked is bad. Not only you are forced to play heroes for the team, the game also matches you with silvers, just like in quick match.
The only reason to play unranked is when you have play 2 games as a warcraft and as a diablo hero simultaneously and want to get it over with faster.
>>
Top 3 mains are probably
>Leoric (deceptive with drain hopes damage/healing which tricks people into fighting me)
>Murky (super high burst damage, and again, deceptive to where people will ignore me in a fight because I'm just a murky)
>Zagara (area control and summons are fun, also can be deceptively bursty when people ignore the summons. Also best skin in the game, scorpion waifu)

Top 3 hated
Varian (so much fucking protect)
Morales (so much fucking heals)
Samuro (fucking clones and free escape stealth)
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>>375636304
They should just add Deckard Cain
>cant leave base
>enemies drop unidentified loot
>your other heroes pick up the loot and bring them to you for permanent buffs
>you can only be killed in a shit game with a shit storyline
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when does the week 2 nexus challenge start?
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>>375634296
I'LL BE SEEING YOU
IN
HELL
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>there is currently a bonus for queuing random

this is gonna go great
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I main Abathur
Rehgar, Gul'dan, Morales and Malf are probably next in line for my most played. Medivh is one of my favorites but I'm not too good at him.

I despise Valeera with every fiber of my being regardless of who I'm playing.
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>>375623673
>don't use the superior male demon hunter model
Male DH in D3 moves like a wigger ganster.
>>
I can't play Li Ming for shit but I can play Chromie better and need some advice.
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What do I do with Sylvanas in small maps where I can't push in comfort
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>>375634296
DEATH...................?
I AM THE MASTER OF DEATH
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>>375600458
haha assfaggots
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>>375632218
>tfw no Alarak announcer
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>>375632447
By not taking him unless the enemy team has a damagesponge high health tank like Diablo or Muradin or Cho'gall.
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>>375638695
>that feel when no Lorewalker Cho announcer
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>>375639515
hello!

i am

lorewalker

cho!
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>>375639515

I hope we get another Pandaren some day, Li Li doesn't even count. Lei Shen would also be very cool.
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>>375639515
>he accidentally says Minsc and Boo stand ready
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>>375639769
If we get another Pandaren, I'd want Taran Zhu. Any type of Pandaria race though, one of the Klaxxi or Lei Shen would be really cool.
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>Game is supposed to be Blizzard All-Stars
>Kel'thuzad is STILL not in

He should have been among the first heroes in, alongside Arthas.
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What're the highest skill cap heroes? Preferably high damage, low survivability is fine. I've enjoyed Gul'dan, Kael'thas, Thrall the most. Medivh, Chromie, Ragnaros, Alarak also fun. I'm looking for anyone that requires your attention to play well and puts out enough damage to secure kills 1v1 if you play better than them.
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>>375640057
nope have these Overwatch heroes except the only cool one is Genji
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>>375640690
Zarya is at least pretty fun to play.
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>>375640057
The problem is that Arthas basically stole kel thuzad's spot with his spells
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>>375623673
They said the wanted to make the other genders new characters with different abilities,so there is a chance.
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>>375640057
What would you give Kel'thuzad that Arthas or Jaina doesn't have, though?
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>>375635186
It's way more casual than Dota, but nearly equal to LoL.
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>>375632345

They took his deal and DOT with frag also took second HP bar from Odin. gave him some weird activate hero ability that does more if they have more HP

But I still own kids in QM
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>quick game
>5 minute queue
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>>375640518
TLV is the hardest hero to maximize potential on.

Alarak is probably the hardest assassin overall.

For tanks it's hard to say whose hardest. Diablo is easy to pick up and learn but getting the most out of him in a team fight is difficult.

Medivh is fairly tough to play as he's a combo support and mage.

Lunara is a great assassin but she is about as durable as the bubble holding in a dry fart.

Valeera and Nova are horrible to play aginst any team with detection or a skill shot aoe with reach.

Aside from that, it's pretty comp dependent how hard each hero is from match to match.
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>>375640057
He's had a model for ages, it's only a matter of time
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>>375623890
>Leoric
>Only has one skeleton skin
Some Skeleton king
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>>375641313
>no item builds warding or last hitting
>5 minute long games entirely consisting of "awesome teamfighting"

LoL is way more hardcore than HotS, i know you Dotards can't understand social concepts but LoL is a fairly involved and time consuming game unlike HotS which is designed for the "i want to feel like a gaymur but i don't actually want to put any effort into my hobbies" crowd.
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>>375641241
You make him all about control. Freezes out the wazoo. Make his passive an aura that gradually slows and ultimately freezes characters that linger in its radius for too long.

Then, make his main gimmick sizable bonus damage if the abilities of allied heroes break the freezes he applies.
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>>375635514
>playing for the Overwatch skins
>literally never played a MOBA
>turns out this is pretty fun
>really enjoying Li Ming, especially when hitting Lv. 20 and taking Pure Power
>will probably play casually even after the OW event is over
Feels good.
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>>375640968
Nah.

>Frost Nova Q PBAoE nuke + slow, talent for root/range/damage
>Void Eruption W wave clear AoE, talent for radius, damage, stun (?)
>Dark Pact E Mana sustain, long enough CD to make it viable but not make him ignore mana entirely, talent for efficency/cd/ability power
>Ults are D&D or Frostbolt Volley
>Trait is a reactive Frost Armor.

That's why it's so frustrating that he isn't in game yet. The abilities are literally right there and he would be easily differentiated from both Arthas and Jaina.
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>>375595730
Has the community decided which female hero has the loudest rear yet? This decides whether I'll try the game or not.
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>>375595730
Auriel.

I don't think there's anyone I really dislike playing against.
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>>375642019
Volleyball Li Ming or Marshal Valla skins are probably the best ass displays.
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>>375642019

Tyrande probably #1 all time but also Li Ming. Jaina, Sylvanas, Nova make respectable showings.
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>>375641665
>LoL warding
Yes, placing a ward in the same exact spots every match sure adds complexity and depth to the game.
>>
MAIEV WHEN
FUCK USELESS SKELETONS WHO KEEP CATS AS PETS
I
AM
THE
LAW
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>>375642173
Agreed on the Li Ming but
>Marshall Valla
I guess I haven't given her a good enough look.

>>375642538
Sounds pretty good. If only Nova wasn't such a slut.
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How do I get better at this guys? I'm no stranger to mobas, but my biggest problem is when to move out of my lane or do other stuff. How do I know when to merge with my team for team fights? How do I know if I'm just supposed to stay at my lane or push for objectives?

I always get confused
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>>375642741
Framed by chaps and super tight pants. It's pretty top tier.

Her other skins don't show it. Only the Marshall skin.
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>>375642737

>Maiev
>Kel'Thuzad

CAIRNE FUCKING WHEN
BONES ACHE
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>>375642823
Game sense. Literally cannot be taught. Has to be learned via experience.
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>>375641241
I'll take a crack at this, but without upgrades to abilities.

Kelthuzad - Ranged Support

Basic attack is a ghostly skull projectile that functions as you'd expect

Q: (Target - Ranged): Slows target slightly and causes them to take damage over time.

W: (AoE - Buff): Empowers any minions within the radius with frost, giving them some armour and causing their attacks to slow on hit.

E: (Target - Ally or self): Grants a temporary shield of arcane infused ice around the target. If the shield is broken before the duration ends, it causes X damage to enemies within X radius.

R-A: (AoE - Summon): Summon a bloated abomination at the location that will attack nearby enemies. Upon being killed or the duration expiring, the abomination will explode and poison any enemies within X radius.

R-B: (Target - Ally or self): Grants a temporary buff that if the target is killed while active, will grant them stasis for 5 seconds or until healed. If healed, stasis ends and causes any enemies within X radius to be stunned for 1 second. If stasis ends without healing, the target dies as they would but the AoE still happens.
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>>375624253
That Prime Evil Diablo skin is fucking amazing. Shame it costs too damn much.
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>>375642741
>Not into neon roller derby bimbo sluts

What are you? Gay?
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>>375643227
Well, I mean, kinda
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>>375595730
I main Gul'dan, he can stay on the field and never have to Hearthening to recharge mana or health. Good burst and channel spell too.
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>specialists on my team in qm

Just fuck off. You don't know what you're doing so just pick an easy meta hero instead.
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>>375640057
I wanted a zealot and they gave me artanis instead of Fenix. Life is hard sometimes.
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>>375643306
Well fuck her ass then.
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who is the hero that makes you go "this is good, i'm having fun"?
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>>375642823

the best way to start is to judge by player advantage. its very simple and will make hots' game-flow click with you a bit better. for example if you kill 2 dudes, you have enough people to fill each lane with one person, and the other two can go take a camp together, whilst the enemy barely have the numbers to contest any of that. apply that process to all sorts of situations and you'll usually get the right idea.

other than that try not to over-extend and need to go back to base when an objective is just about to pop.
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>>375643370
Artanis is still awesome but I'd love if Roper came back and voiced a Zealot Fenix.
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>>375643410
That'd indeed be the gay thing to do
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>>375643492
Reghar. I'm never mvp but I always have something to do no matter what is happening and my support also helps me.
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>>375643492
Butcher. Ragnaros.
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>>375643492
Depends. Do you like to be a pure tank, a bruiser/skirmisher, ranged damage, support or to excel at destroying buildings?
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>>375643492

Cho. Get the charge + turbo attack speed build and make anyone who ever fights you sad.

I always feel like I have huge game impact as Gul'dan, Thrall and Rag but I've played so much of them that I'm getting tired of it.
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>>375643687
I still think of Artanis as a scrawny green dude in a Scout.
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>>375643892
Same but I like how he plays in HotS. Liked him pre-"rework" more because a Blades build made you damn near invincible if played right.
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>>375632023
>tfw facing a medivh/illidan/malf premade with random pubs
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>>375643789
i like standing really far away and buffing my teammates or debuffing the enemy
nothing more satisfying than saving someone on the brink of death and forcing the enemy to go home empty-handed
knockback, stun, blink etc
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>>375643024
R-B is not at all in character. It should raise a ghoul that is played by the dead character while the death timer still counts down. Ghoul would play quite a bit like kharazim, jump to target, flurry and a daze all balanced to still be fair.

The bloated abomination should have a stacking frenzy based on consume.
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>>375643024
>none of his actual abilities
Disgusting

Q : Frost Blast, Deadly nuke that slows the primary target hit by a lot and other nearby targets less

W : Shadow Fissure, summon a fissure of dark energy that explodes for heavy damage

E : Frost Armor idea is good, shattering when it expires makes targeting him a dangerous idea.

R : Death and Decay, creates a massive zone of dark magic that deals constant damage to all that remain inside of it

R : Naxxramas, Summon the dread citadel Naxxramas to bombard foes and continually summon undead

Trait : Sacrifice, each enemy, minion and mercenary that dies near Kel'thuzad heals him and restores mana.
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>>375644546
>naxxramas
>Rainer clone

Naxx should just be a cosmetic effect over the death and decay ult.
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>>375595730
>who do you main
Kinky of course.
Even before they fixed his shitty Beetle AI.
And then he went under the radar again, around the time lunara released and now he is up there with the good heros, yet again.

How does he do it?!

Tychus is a close second though.
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>>375599439
>hating stealth
>as Lunara

??????????
It always baffles me how people cant spot stealthed heros in this game or how people who play stealthed champs think they automatically outsmart everyone.
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>>375619174
Let yourself have fun and you'll have fun
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>>375632218
Man, where's the love for Alarak? I guess he's just outdone by all the retardedly overpowerede assasins blizz have made.
It just feels good to silence a bitch, drag them back when they try to escape, and then zap a bitch. Not to mention his sick counter burst.
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>>375644805
I found out the other day running the game on certain settings on certian graphics cards removes the ripple/water effect from stealthed champions entirely making it completely impossible to detect them.
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>>375644704
Naxxramas is a one of Kel'thuzads iconic features across multiple games.

Also a fuckload of abilities are just clones of each other, whats the big problem.
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>>375612129
Support is just a bad addition to moba's in general. Makes any game slower and less interesting to play if someone needs to play it. Why pick a character that does nothing on its own and needs a teammate to at least click keys on their keyboard to even have an impact. I never trust my teammates to even breathe to keep themselves alive why would I try to support someone who is on life support irl?
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>>375645193
Wew, unlucky.
Otherwise there is nothing funnier than ruining Valeeras day as Tassadar.
Also Zera, but I dont see Zera anymore.

And Nova is whatever, she can still snipe you from far away.
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>>375643492
Greymane. Truly a man designed with fun in mind. I'm so glad they buffed his bullet ultimate even more. It makes tanks basically useless to me.
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>>375644546
Frost blast should be one of his ult choices, and I would replace shadow fissure with mana detonation.
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butcher

tracer i guess, i dont really hate that many characters because i'm aware of my own characters weaknesses and dont expect the game to do me favors
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>>375616010
>d3 legends portrait
Leo is most handsome skeltal. Also supreme king of sustain.
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>>375646807
>Supreme king of sustain

That title belongs to Dehaka
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>>375646948
Maybe Arthas though.
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