But ..but.. but.. i thought Base building is what made Dawn

DOW2 Sales first 3 days :70'000

DOW3 sales first 3 days (Steam) 135000

When you don't half ass it, yes

>>375486353
>DOW3 sales first 3 days (Steam) 135000
/v/ BTFO yet again.

>>375486385
This + many other factors.

Base Building is one thing.

>>375485974
It is, let me know when dow3 has it.

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>>375485974

>gets an average of 80 points by magazines

>gets 50+ 0-10 point reviews by customers

Is this the shilling /v/ is always talking about?


http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/warhammer-40000-dawn-of-war-iii/user-reviews

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>>375485974
>Play game
>forced faction swaps, not able to play space marines fulltime
>refunded

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>>375485974
Extremely dissapointing.

I was A HUGE fan of warhamme 1 + all extensions and warhammer 2.

This is absolutely not the same kind og game.

The solo is easy, scenario is really lazy. Strategy is boring, too much units have capacity. The graphics are almost like cartoon, not at all like warhammer. Most of the animations (special mention to Angelos) are ridiculous. Colors are too bright,
Base construction is minimal and not interesting.
I waited this game for years, and this is a big dissapointement. And this comes from a both of relic and warhammer.
IDK what happened, this is just sad, sad and boring.

If at least it would have advanced the story and background of the bloodravens... but it did not even do that.

The only, little interest, is in the multiplayer, which is acceptable. But i think most of the persons that plays dawn of war don't do it for the multiplayer. do they?

I am just sad for this game, this studio, and this license...

I do not understand the hate this game gets

>>375485974
Base building or no base building, both can work as I enjoyed all three of the games.

DoW3 has teh exact same base building as DoW1, so I don't see what people are shitposting about.


I think it's a really good game. The campaign is long and doesn't cockblock other factions for Space Marines so hooray for that. Even if I'd rather have a full on Ork campaign, fuck the SM/Eldar autists, the Ork parts were an absolute blast.

There's more maps in it than in DoW2 and basically the satndard for any modern RTS games outside of those with randomly generated ones. It also has a map editor so the pool is most likeley going to expand with all the DoW1 favorites really soon.

The factions are diverse, more fun to play than in DoW1 (woo, I can't wait to hammer my R button for a minute to decide an engagement through sheer attrition) and have much more full rosters, not omitting random units because "lol, we ran out of space".

The graphics are up to date and the performance is also great despite the game being at least twice as big in scale as DoW1.

Persistent bodies are now also supplemented by persistent wrecakge, so the death carpets are all that more breathtaking.

UI scales well and you can change all sorts of shit in it form map placement to icons shown and even how the selection works. A welcome feature only Supreme Commander implemented as well for some reason.

Imo, the only thing that sucks is the forced mouse to scroll and the fact the music is really not audible most of the time, especially since the faction themes are top notch.


What in the everloving hell is everyone so adamant is absolutely wrong with this game?
It's literally an upgrade over DoW1.

>>375487208
Meme spouting faggots that spill spaghetti because the perceived sanctity of muh favorite game

>>375487353

SHILLLLLL

>>375485974
>make a joke 40k "RTS" with sync kills, accuracy, no micro/macro, retreat button, etc.
>autistic screeching from RTS fans

>make a good RTS with all the right mechanics and 40k skin
>autistic screeching from "I like 40k but not RTS" DoW fans

why even bother

>>375487387
>>375487208
>>375486460
>>375486353

Shills, see>>375486636

>>375487208
I don't either. Same with 2. Both are great.

>>375487509
>endlessly shit on consumers for buying into shit like mobas and cawadoody and streamer bait games
>suddenly they are very wise when their reviews coincide with the memes I want to push

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>it's another 'game needs 20 patches and 3 DLCs until it's good' game

I'm so fucking sick of this meme. Stop buying games you faglords.

>>375487682

Lol this. It took 4 years for coh2 to be even good

If I had dollar for every shill this game has. I could retire.

>>375487487
I know, how dare I enjoy a good game.

Sorry, I'll switch back to proper /v/ mode.
Ahem.
>Dawn of War is such a shitty series! Like, look at the graphics people.
>And there's absolutely no thoygh put into it, you just "cap" some stupid points instead of building harvesters the opponent can then harrass like in any proper RTS game.
>Only a literal Relic shill still delusional about teh quality of Homeworld would ever suck Relic's dick about this game.
>It doesn't even have any World Editor.
>Good luck playing second rate garbage while I enjoy me some god-like Island Wars in Frozen Throne while we wait for Starcraft 2 to erase Relic and all the other F-grade developers off the map.

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>>375487487
>>375487509
>>375487876

>>375487509
>>375487509
>10cents have been added to your Blizzard(tm) account
Your remaster is shitty and there's no way in hell I'll buy it. I'm seriously considering doing the same kind of anti-shilling for this Blizzard piece of shit now

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>>375487903

>dow
>good

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>>375488119
>>375488089
>>375487903

Samefag

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>>375488194

>>375487353
I know I enjoyed DoW 2 more because it made away with the boring base building and instead gave you squads to control, better stories and I thought the loot system was neat because it would force me to swap out abilities and weapons which made me change tactics.

>>375488194
>32s difference
>samefag
get out newfag
learn how the site works before posting

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>>375488292
>>375488303

Haha no. Shills.

People who buy Warhammer games need to off themselves

This game is fake and gay

Teehee I play Warhammer games so nerdy xD

>>375488296
DoW2 campaign was a blast (except for Retibution, that one kinda dropped the ball, imo), but it was a completely different kind of game altogether.
The game played more like a Commandos (nit neccessarily with the abilities but the overall scheme of always preparing and executing the next move against the backdrop of overwhelming opposition) game than an RTS game. Enjoyable for us, but I can definitely see where the people who were against it came from.

Heck, I played through the entire DoW2 + Chaos Rising campaign on brutal difficulty and a perfectly pure (no heretic armor/weapons) playthrough.
Still one of my favorite achievements in vidya.

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>>375486353
you're like a baby, could not sell 6 millions on release

They ruined it. Space Hulk was still born. Battle Fleet: Gothic is dead. I have lost hope.

>>375488628
Total Warhammer is shit too
Devs are obviously only doing it for money, no passion there. It's really sad

Video gaymes suck

>>375487682
But those are always the best kind of game.

>>375488809
No just Warhammer shit

>>375486692
This is Tera, huh? Damn it, I need to try it now.

>>375488394
>Risitas
Retourne sucer des pines d'ours sur jeuxvideo.com abruti

>>375487353
>Imo, the only thing that sucks is the forced mouse to scroll and the fact the music is really not audible most of the time
I'll add a few:
- impossible to change keybinding
-impossible to change scroll speed (I swear, evertime I play it I notice how smow it is again)
-only 8 maps (though that's still 3 more than DoW2 on release)
-some of the VA is mediocre (but as you saif you almost can't here it in game) (there are still some great lines though, especially Devastators, Chaplain, Dread...)
I agree with the conclusion however, it's a great game and people shitting on it because "muh DoW1/DoW2" either don't have played these games or wear pink glasses

>>375488536
RTS is a dead genre, the game can't sell millions and you know it
It is doing great for an RTS

>>375488089
This pic makes absolutely no fucking sense, because nobody likes this trash. You are in the absolute minority and are a contrarian shit-eater by definition, so it's really ironic you've posted that pic.

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>>375488770
>Total Warhammer is shit too
Total Warhammer is GOTY, your opinion is trash.

>>375489095
Why is there 14,000+ people playing right now (and rising) then?
http://steamcharts.com/app/285190

>>375489357
>and rising
Lmao, the playercount is diminishing, if anything. The game peaked at 25k on the day at launch and has already lost 20% of its players.
>peak on launch day - 25K
>current 24 hour peak 20k
It's shit, shill.

>>375489357

Haha no. Evem nu-males sky has more players

>>375489284

No its not. Its dlc shit with denuvo, shik

>Stats on Dawn of War Series
>Highest Peak

Dawn of War Dark Crusade: 2259
Dawn of War Soulstorm:3245
Dawn of War 2: 4274
Dawn of War 2 Retribution: 6617

Dawn of War 3: 25587

>>375489095
>>375489481
>edgy comments
>everyone is a shill
just kill yourself

My main complaint isn't so much the MOBAAAAAAAAAA aspects of it but it's the uselessness of "line" units. Line units should be alive quite a bit longer, elites should not do as much damage OR elites should be bought like the other units, not elite points, making you choose between normal troops or an elite.

>>375489567
>Denuvo
>bad
>Its dlc
Best DLC in the series with unique races that have unique units with unique models with unique animations and the most free DLC released for any TW game ever. So no, eat shit, piratecuck..

>>375489481
My point was that we were nowhere near the peak of the day. It will reach higher numbers today.

>>375489523
http://steamcharts.com/app/275850
600 people playing NMS. That's ~23 times less than DoW3. Try again.

>>375486353
Dow2 came when Steam was less popular. It also had infamous Games for Windows Live.

>>375489601
>what is modern industry hype and marketing machine
Don't worry, your shit game will be a wasteland in a week.

>>375486353
drumpf btfo

>>375489721
>It will reach higher numbers today.
It won't and I'll be here to laugh at your retarded ass, shill.

>>375489629
Upgrade your army. That's why there are 3 levels of army upgrades now instead of usual 2 and earliest elites take 4 minutes to be deployed.

>>375489731
DoW2 CD's autorun installed Steam. I don't remember if it was possible to play the game without Steam back then, but even if it was, I really doubt more than 10,000 people did

So you can only use Elite unit doctrines when it is fielded or is it just by choosing them?

>>375489856

Fuck no its not shill. Elites are still fucking op like Gabe tanking 3 banshee squads

>YOUR PROPHET FINDS YOU WANTING

Ok that was a pretty badass scene i'll admit.

>>375489070
>RTS is a dead genre, the game can't sell millions and you know it
>It is doing great for an RTS
Depends if people keep playing it or not. DoW2 was crippled by GFWL but the game was good enough that when they fixed the issues with the first expansion it managed to gain a regular player base and long term sales. THQ also sabotaged all the DoW2 launches with region locking, not putting games on steam in certain regions and a variety of other things.

The core gameplay of DoW3 looks too bad, I don't see it being possible to fix with expansions like DoW2 issues were. If they had just taken DoW2, upgraded the game engine, added proper base building and more sensible resources I think it would have sold a few hundred thousand at launch.

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>>375490000

HOT DAMN

>>375490051
DOW2 was a shittier game then DOW3 ever was.

-GFWL release fucked over multiplayer for ages.
-One race single-player campaign.
-Suppression so ridiculously strong, Ork, Nids and Eldar forced to use their teleport hero in multi to be competitive.
-Marines were tac spam with medic hero.
-Squad mechanics so unbalanced that marines, with very few units in a squad could literally let a tac go to 50% and heal up via medic and lose no effectiveness
-Vehicles so abysmally slow you only used transport to reinforce your squad
-99% of wargear was useless, so having this 'moba' element in DOW2 was useless.
-Suppression units having 45 degree+ arc in small 3 lane maps meant it was impossible to use flanking as a maneuver so Relic designed teleport units and hero's to make up for it.
-Game devolved into layered suppression platforms that were countered by multi-teleport units.

>>375490051
If they had just taken DoW2 and upgraded its mechanics and graphics slightly, it wouldn't have been a RTS, but a RTT game, so it wouldn't appeal to the L33T "e-sports" crowd.

>half the audience wants upgraded DoW1
>the other half wants upgraded DoW2
>end up making a piece of shit that's neither and dissapoint both audiences

Really makes you think.

>>375489601
>Dawn of War Dark Crusade: 2259
>Dawn of War Soulstorm:3245
>Dawn of War 2: 4274
>Dawn of War 2 Retribution: 6617
>Dawn of War 3: 25587
There's no way that is accurate, played DoW2 during the beta and remember 6k+ players online. Peak was something like 10k-15k around launch.

My guess is DoW3 sells a little more at launch but falls behind long term. However they probably sold 50%-80% less than if they had made a good game. There's atleast a few million DoW players, if they can't capture 20% of those at launch they fucked up.

>>375486353
[citation needed]

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>>375485974
>They went for the e-sports audience

I gave up on getting a good WH40K game after THQ kicked the bucket anyway.

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>>375490870
>nintendo
>zelda

>>375490358
Maybe early on, multiplayer changed dramatically later on. Everything was sorted out before the chaos expansion. What really screwed DoW2 over were the VPs and power generators. 1v1 always devolved into dancing around them. Flame weapons destroyed all generators in seconds destroying 3 gens + the node was typically enough to win against people of a similar skill. The difference in power resources always meant you could tech to level 2 before them.

2v2 and 3v3 usually worked out ok because it was much harder to kill multiple players generators just by dancing around.

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>>375490870
>Taxi
What?

>>375486353
I don't care how many copies it sold, this game is objectively shit.

>>375491248
>objectively shit

I can objectively say your mother has taken several black cocks last night.

>>375491113
Fake taxi, the worst porn production ever that is loved by pakis, failipinos and assorted minorities.

>>375491340
I think he's referring to player scores on Steam and Metacrtic. It's an objective fact that the actual playerbase hates the game, the few defending it are the absolute minority.

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>>375490000
presence doctrines take effect when you deploy your elite units
command doctrines work anyway

>>375490603
DOW2 opened with GFWL.

It never had 15k at launch for multi.

>>375491543
Lots of people buy games from G2A, cdkeys or similar sites, there's ntohing to wander about here and there's nothing bad about this either. If you're implying people getting the game legitimately for cheap is somehow bad, you need to hang yourself, because reselling bought products and buying them is a basic consumer right. If you have anything against this, you're an anti-consumer, corporate cock gobbling shill.

>>375491523
Not only are you wrong about about who is in the minority just by looking at the amount of positive/negative reviews, but you also fail to realize that most people are too busy playing to care about your autistic screeching in reviews and metacritic.

>>375491689
I thought about replying but I tink I'm gonna let the other posters tell you how stupid you are

>DOW3 is doing twice as good as DOW2 in sales
>DOW3 has 3-4 times more active players on multi.

Kek you shitters lost.
The salt is real.

>>375491689
>nothing bad about using G2A
if you endorse criminality sure

>>375491523
>It's an objective fact that the actual playerbase hates the game, the few defending it are the absolute minority.

I can also objectively say you've flunked out of your elementary school's algebra course.
>Roughly 140 000 players bought the game and play it by now.
>Some autists form a hate brigade and spam roughly 900 hundred negative reviews.
>The people actually playing the game are an "absolute minority".

The term you were objectuvely looking for is an obnoxious vocal minority on the other side of the fence you are a part of.

>No one mentions the real problem the game has which is lack of content

>MUH MOBA
>MUH GRITTY ART STYLE
>MUH NO TURRETS

Heres the real problems:

- 8 maps and they feel very samey. The game needs more than esports maps. DOW1 had some great maps that weren't competitive but were unique
- Lack of a way to play the game outside a barebones campaign and MP. SC2 has coop, a campaign with unique missions and progresion, AND the arcade. DoW2 had Last Stand and a much better campaign.

Which drives me mental cause I love the gameplay and art style. The fundamentals are there but there's just a serious lack if content.

It needs 2 years of DLC and updates - just like CoH2.

>>375491816
>endorse criminality
>it's against the law, I s-swear!
>it doesn't matter nobody has ever had a case against g2a and never will
Keep crying, corporate cuck.

>>375491887
>SC2 has coop, a campaign with unique missions and progresion, AND the arcade. DoW2 had Last Stand and a much better campaign.
none of that was there on release

>>375491827
>obnoxious vocal minority
Yeah, a minority of mongoloids defending this trash like you and your brigade of shit-eaters. The game is trash, the scores are trash, the player count is plummeting (20% of playerbase lost in 2 days, LMAO) and there's nothing you can do about it, shill.

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>>375491689
I think he's referring to the different amount of positive reviews from the different sources. With that many reviews it should really be a lot closer. It makes you wonder why there are more positive reviews from sources other than steam

>>375491952
well, SC2 campaign was of course, but not the arcade. And Last Stand was added in a big patch, months after the game release

>>375491887
SC2 is shit so your opinion is discarded.

DoW2 had a shit campaign wtf are you talking about, any game with 1 race campaign is dogshit by definition.

>>375491958
Wait, so what you're trying to say is that some unknown force is giving away copies of DoW3 to people on the condition that they will write a negative review for the game? I don't even need to comment on this.

>>375492064

Salty. Arent you, shill?

>>375492064
The other way around, shill. There are more positive reviews from the source where keys can be given away for illegitimate reasons. On steam you have to buy it.

>>375491887
Yeah, it needs more maps and content that's for sure. DoW2 having a better campaign subjective and is only the case if you're SM fan.

>that fucking SC2 comparison
it blizzard how many years and expansions to put all of that into sc2? I'm sure if dow3 gets as much development time it will get there

>>375487508
yeah nah fuck off shill.
if you want to see a RTS that does it right look at COH 2. And thats the thing I sont get. Relic made COH 2 and who decided to throw out all the things that made it great?

>>375492064
at least make it less obvious, you don't want to expose yourself like that

if they find out you might get fired

>>375492217
COH2 is a fucking garbage game what are you on cuckboy

>>375491887
>8 maps and they feel very samey. The game needs more than esports maps. DOW1 had some great maps that weren't competitive but were unique

That's what they put in the map editor for.
You can already download the single most popular Dawn of War map from there.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/285190/workshop/
The "barebones" campaign is also the single largest campaign relic has ever made. Funny how that works, huh?

I agree the more the merrier but come the fuck on, anon.
And SC2 only got all that after "just" 7 years of constant development and three releases. I mean, if I paid $140 for a single game, it sure as fuck has to have all that shit in it.

>>375492227
>>375492146
>>375492120
That's it, I don't even know who's shilling who anymore.

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>>375491956
You can objectively see I've annihilated your argument, anon.
It has been nice objectively conversing with you.

>>375492282

Fuck off. Coh2 is better than this garbo barebones nu moba

>>375492384

>resorting to kawai gril pics

Assblasted faggot

>It's a "/v/ autistically spouting shill everywhere" episode

Ffs the earlier threads are much better than this when we were just discussing MP meta. On that note why Shadow Spectre so OP?

>>375492613

Because youre a retard who bought this game.

>>375492282
Plebeian tier taste mate. DLC aside it's a fantastic game

>>375492492
not even the anon you're replying to, but
>uses buzzwords and gets proven wrong
>muh objective opinion
>s-shill!
stay mad faggot

Friendly note DOW3 has already sold more then DOW2 sold in its first 3 months.

Sorry shitters, you tried but failed.

shit

>>375492695
>not even the anon

Kek, yeah right.

>>375492748
No.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF8SWU8Wp6Q&feature=youtu.be

Has there ever been an RTS game that allowed you to do anything even remotely as awesome as this?
The lack of sync kills (at least as a toggle) sucks but they've definitely gone for their A-game with the animations in this gaeme, regardless.

>>375492613
They aren't that OP, they're fragile and need build up time to be effective.
Use Rangers/Scout Snipers and they should drop like flies.
I do admit I don't know how Orks would counter them though.

>>375492613
Most people are too busy playing it. I'm just taking a break after playing it almost nonstop for 2 days. Also shadow spectres aren't that useful. at least I've never seen them be a problem.

>>375492917
>>375492898
>>375492613

Samefag

>>375492898
Use grots.

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>>375492857
Yes.

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>>375493092
fuck off newfriend

>>375493116
Grots work well against Rangers, I doubt they would have the same impact on those flying shits though. It's easy for them to avoid being in melee, which is the reason why I don't know how Ork can counter them easily. Well placed Lootas/Heavy bolters would work too, I guess? With Scouts/Grots to give them sight if they flee?

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>>375485974

>>375493092
>>375493346
Anon, it's pointless.
The posts are less than 30 seconds apart and it wouldn't budge this autistic turd.
He's just a salty shitposter. Ignore him for good.

x https://youtu.be/PbdDMWognH4

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>>375485974
dow have good base building
dow 3 have fuckall

>>375493370
Lootas, Trukks launching Boyz/Grots and even just Gorgutz work well agains Spectres.

>>375493551
good point anon, but arguing with salty autists is part of the beauty of the chans. wouldn't have it any other way

>>375493730
The ui in 3 is so atrocious and theres no way to shrink it. Feels like a tablet game.

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>>375485974
gentlefags, I'd like to use this opportunity >>375493434 to present you the new version of the bingo, and remind you to hide and report "dawn of war.png".
The Emperor protects

>>375494272
>TWH best game ever
Dunno about ever, but it's the best GW related game ever, that's for sure.

>>375494349
I agree, it's just funny to see WHFBfags shitting on 40k in every 40k thread

>>375494485
It's ironic shitting, like pretty much everything else on this site I don't think there's a single person out there who likes WHTW and unironically hates DoW1 or 2.

>>375485974
being good was what made dawn of war great

>>375494753
>being good makes it good
thanks for the insight

>>375493434
Accurate

>>375494925
FUCKING FURRIES

>>375494925
What am I looking at here?

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>>375495059
and a wolf wolf wolf wolf wolf

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>>375485974

>>375495059
Shut up Nemiel.

>>375492370
/v/ is one person
we are all shills and not shills

Hopefully dow3 will keep you normie faggots out of my tabletop hobby.

>>375495096

The ugly as fuck UI for the dow3

Damn the super-units are fucking nice in this game.

>>375495096
DoW1, 2 and 3 army painters.
I guess anon's point is "you can't use halved/quartered pattern anymore", but he forgot to show the number of colors available in each game for it to be a fair comparison (RGB so every nuance possible in DoW1, far less colors in DoW2). He could probably even trash the game by showing a page with a lot of locked colors for instance

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>>375495096
grit, grit, cartoon

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>>375495324

played 12 hours of multiplayer
dropping it because elites and activated abilities are the only thing that matters
squads that arent heavy infantry do fuck all damage while elites can easily solo 3-4 squads early game

its just a matter of shitting out your elites as early as possible and not get hit by the enemies elites so you can claim the resource points and win because the enemy is too power starved to produce high tier units

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without memeing or talking about visuals, explain why this game is bad. I want to play a new 40k game

>>375491385

I've heard of this shitty Porn, but never heard that it was prefered by minorities.

Holy shit it makes sense though, you're a minority immigrant driving around hot young American tail, of course what you end up fantasizing about is laying into them in your taxi.

fuckin' gross

>>375495458
You know, if this goes on, I'll petition the game to be renamed to Dawn of Shitters.

Every single gameplay complaint I've heard so far has been so wrong I can't help but feel like you're the kind of person who can't figure out how to make builds and ends up making armies of peasants/SCVs/whatever in other RTS games.

>>375495171

Haha that flashlight

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>>375494925
In every DoW, including 3, the Army Painter has always been "Nearly But Not Quite." 1 was probably the most ridiculous by only ever allowing you to see the test scheme on two units - one infantry, one vehicle. 2 did good with the "patterns," yet I somehow always felt like I couldn't quite get what I wanted with the materials. I'd still probably rate it the best of the 3. As for 3, it's great for demonstrating your scheme, and the presets already cover all the canon chapters I ever wanted (even Space Sharks and MY BOYS, HOLY SHIT, THE FUCKING HAMMERS OF DORN). But it's lacking splits, so no Howling Griffs or my other boys the Novamarines.

In all cases, Dark Angels are still unanimously Greenwing, which is a damn shame. I'm not far into DoW3 yet, but I assume the lack of elites on the preview list means they get custom skins, so hopefully I can make white Deathwing there.

I think multiplayer 1vs1 plays alright and I like how the races are structured in general, especially eldar. Everything looks a little too much like its made of plastic and I really dont know what were they thinking with such a shitty progression system but then again its relic so they just HAVE to fuck up here in there.

Campaign is absolutely awful, I thought I would get a bunch of skulls for finishing but istead you get some for finishing each mission and thats it.

The fact that resource points are so easily harassed kind of makes up for the whole "moba buildings" thing. The game has potential, will probably improve with expansions

>>375495639
okay lets hear your thoughts on the gameplay then faggot

>>375495494

Objectively it's not a bad RTS, but they missed the spirit of WH40K, so if you're a fan of their other games/art style/lore, you'll probably be butt hurt.

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>No synch kills
>No Brian or Paul Dobson
>No dynamic cover
>Base building

>>375495882

All the ork voice acting/barks are fucking cringeworthy, this is my biggest pet peeve with the game.

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>>375490870
>playstation
>black in top 5

>>375495961

The way they did cover was the biggest fucking red flag to me, obv it was going to be shit when I saw that

>>375495825
I really hope digital miniatures and painting them kicks off. That Might & Magic moba, while undoubtedly a bad game, has an orgasmic painting tool.

>>375495458
Your post is disproven by the fact I saw Solaria hacked apart by Banshees, Gorgutz and Zappnoggin killed by eldar dakka and Ronah nsabotaged by grots.

GORGUTZ FUCKING WON SOULSTORM HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>375486636

Haha what a trashfire

I feel bad for all the fans of the IP that bought the game though, their loyalty was completely betrayed

>>375496206
Well, this is does not affect me since both orks and Imperial Guard are my favorite factions.

>>375495849
>Hurr durr my infantry does nothing.

If your units do nothing you're either not aware upgrades exist or have them do 50% damage against an armor type that hard counters them.
These are both mechanics taken from Dawn of War 1, by the way, but it's not like I expect you to even know that game exists.

>>375495882
>but they missed the spirit of WH40K
Quite the contrary, this game has done orks better than any vidya in teh existence of this God-forsaken IP.
Eldar are also much more lore-accurate than ever before.

You are the one who knows fuck all about what 40k is like and that's why you're complaining.

>>375496063
It's DoW1 cover system. Cry me a fucking river, CoH-fag.

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>55% mixed review

Well I've made the right decision

>>375495324
If anything tabletop will inflate with normies. Have you seen the 8th rule previews? Get ready for normie invasion.

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>>375496379
>fixed cover
>it's dow1 cover!!!11one
no

>>375496423
>pre-purchasing in the first place
More like you made the wrong decision but Valves safety net means you don't have to pay for your idiocy.

>>375495494
Read the thread

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Shills BTFO

>>375496379
>If your units do nothing you're either not aware upgrades exist or have them do 50% damage against an armor type that hard counters them.
This right here is why a lot of people fucking suck at the game and think it is a "moba" where only elites matter.

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>>375486353

WHY THE FUCK IS THIS A THING NOW

WHY DO PEOPLE ACT LIKE SALES MEAN ANYTHING

DO YOU ALSO ARGUE THAT FAST AND FURIOUS IS TOP TIER KINO AND SHADES OF GREY ELDER GOD TIER LITERATURE?!

>>375485974
does anyone knowbwhat the lvl 10 for elites do? i cant see anything different

>>375496379
>DOW1 cover,

No it's not, fuck off,

You take your fuckin' bright and cheery art style and shove it up your ass you fuckin' shill.

>>375496586
more like valve got a nice interest free loan from anon

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>>375486353
>only sells 60k more than a gfwl game
>A FUCKING GAMES FOR WINDOWS LIVE GAME

>>375496379
>It's DoW1 cover system. Cry me a fucking river, CoH-fag
nah, I agree with everything else you said but I can't let you say it's DoW1 system.
DoW1 had a bland "if you are in the area you take -X% damage". It was atmospheric though.
Bubbleshields make for interesting defense points but ultimately they're garrisonable buildings++, with the added benefit that "first in wins" is no more.
Stealth bushes are pretty interesting, but lead to some CREEEEEEED moments with super units hiding in them
I think mechanically the cover system is alright, they just need to add a property to super-units to make stealth cover useless for them (it's not like you really need stealth when those hit the field anyway).
There's no way a DoW2/CoH style cover system would work on that scale that's for sure.

>>375496749
Well yeah. The numbers clearly speak for themselves

>>375496379
>>375496486
DoW 1 Cover:
>Craters buffed your defences
>You still could get shoot or chopped apart.
>Water gave you negative cover, AKA you died faster.
DoW 3 cover:
>Shield bubbles that have hp of its own.
>You capture them to gave safety to the shooty units.
>They can be invaded by melee units or just blasted apart. (And getting more scrap for da orks)

>>375496797

This is what gets me, right here. If you get enough stupid fucks to buy your game temporarily you still make free money on the interest.

All you need is access to a hedge fund, a few million people to 'believe' your product is good,

Push the 'refund' process back as far as humanly possible. They won't try to take any other damages from you after the fact.

You're still set.

>>375496759
the selection circle changes slightly I think
It's pretty underwhelming imho

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>>375496379
>>but they missed the spirit of WH40K
>Quite the contrary
I sorta agree, sorta don't. While you are correct on both your points, grabbing plasma guns on a tac squad gives all 5 plasma guns. Which is absurd. Same with all ass marines getting power swords x5. Also mechanics like Mass Recall, which is literally teleporting your entire army somewhere - despite teleporting being one of the most dangerous and undesirable tactics there is in 40k, with the few teleporters there are being given to things that can't afford alternative deployments, like terminators into and through space hulks (and also allows the chapter to teleport out slain terminators to recover the armor, in some editions of space hulk).

Space marines lacking transports is another huge flaw. Especially the lack of Land Raiders.

Of course, the game benefits from tactical drop pods, orbital strikes, and a far more expansive unit array. There's hits and misses.

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>>375496876
Wait, can knights hide in grass? I wanted to do so so bad my last game while build up a dreadnought army, but I figured it wasn't possible. Please tell me its possible.

I'm enjoying it, it's not bad, but so far I definitely preferred DoW2.
I don't know why everyone wanted base building and tons of units when it doesn't really fit many races. I really liked the DoW2 feel of having powerful and precious units that you have to micro all the time and that you upgrade along the way.
So far the only mission that made me feel like I was actually commanding elite space marines is the one where Angelos gets deep "stroke" with 3 terminators and you fight two entire armies.

>>375497229

>Le Ebin esports is more Important than the singleplayer Campaign XD

Kill yourself faggot

>>375497372
it is possible

>>375497414
assuming you aren't 'dawn of war.png'-anon samefaging, you're answering to known bait
>>375494272
he'll probably try and fight you over it ; ignore him

>>375497229
>soulstorm over dark crusade
Stopped reading there.

>>375497414
Go back to reddít

The worst thing is the awful quality, I played this $20 russian strategy game Syrian Warfare it has better gameplay mechanics, animations and fully destructible buildings. DoW3 is just not acceptable for a $60 game. If they tried something ambitious but failed like DoW2 did I would be more forgiving. It's really not ok for a full price game to be comparable to something 10 Russians made without a publisher.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2PnXP22nD4

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A-at least they reduced the price of the collector's edition to the same price as the base game.
A-at least I didn't buy the expensive version with the hammer replica

Chaos fucking when?

No Chaos
no buy

>>375497919
Chaos is the final boss faction.

>>375497719
>RTT
stopped watching

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>>375497551

>>375497995
Chaos is the only true answer.

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>>375498060

>>375498153

Curious but where does Chaos get their weapons from? Do they have forge worlds inside the warp?

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E V E R Y T I M E

/pol/ is ALWAYS right.

>>375497551
>shit crusade over Soulstorm

lolno

>>375498336
Yes, but they lack the resources from the Imperium so their technology is outdated by 40K standards. Is compensatedby daemonic fuckery.

>>375498336
They have warpsmiths and the dark mechanicus, yes. But they also like to plunder Imperial worlds for stuff too.

the game is pretty fun.
liking it more than DoW 2

Here's the making video, boy does it explain a lot.

Quick rundown on what we know so far:

>4 games in one
>in development since 2011
>was originally going to be free to play
>RTS thought too 'inaccessible', desire to appeal to wider audience

>>375499138

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BZVg2gFSDg

>>375498728
This is accurate.

>>375496929
>They can be invaded by melee units or just blasted apart
Or you can just burn everyone in with flamers.

>>375499138
you forgot 'THQ is dying so we have no money'
also, the '4 games in one' part is just plain wrong. They developped new games each time (well, obviously not the first time as they were clearly using DoW2 as a basis).

>375499273
not a lot of fishes today, hey? It's fine, 'dawn of war.png'-anon, don't cry. Maybe they'll be there on the next thread.

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i wanna git gud at rts
my macro is okay but late game i always end up attack moving a blob and only micro elites

>>375488770
Total War: Warhammer is fucking brilliant, I'll fight you cunt. The only downside is the cancerous dlc.

>>375498728
Accurate

>>375500276
And your setting is fucking dead

>>375487353
>It's literally an upgrade over DoW1.
Game lost its soul and charm, aside from orks. Where are my 10 minute quotes per hero? Where is my scott mcneil? There are things that dont make canon sense either

>>375487353
Spot the marketing shill

>>375487734
More like a year and a half. Once the March Deployment patch was released, things were on the right track for infantry, and the Elbe Day Update sealed the deal. And then WFA came out and shitted it up again.

>>375485974

My finger is itching to refund

This game is quite bland

>>375499138
>desire to appeal to wider audience

Name one, just ONE, game that has been improved when developers try to do this. It might as well be the death knell for a franchise.

>Totalbiscuit condemned the game

Its over

>3 factions

No. Fucking. Buy.

The only ONLY thing I desire is that normal units last for longer

This entire gameplay or "gibbing or getting gibbed" gets very tiring after awhile

>>375500906
they last as long as starcraft 2 units, sad 2bh

>>375500835
Did they paid him so he could roast their game? Why he lifted his boycott?

>those shit mixed reviews

Oh boy, Necron expac and then final IG expac confirmed.

>>375500141
>i always end up attack moving a blob and only micro elites
Don't you get orbital strikes in your face all the time?

>>375500979

No idea
I haven't watched totalbiscuit in centuries

I just wanted to see what he had to say about 40k, since he is a fan

>>375500558
Why does it matter?

>>375500835

I mean he's right to do so but caring about TB is asking to be beaten with sticks. He's such a shill and a copout.

>>375496749
If nobody buys your game, it's shit. It's that simple. High sales are not an indicator of quality, but low sales are an indicator your game is dogshit.

>>375500993
User reviews doesn't mean anything. It was the same with TWW.

>>375500276
>cancerous dlc
Your ass is cancerous. The faction DLCs are all great and worth the money.

>>375501125
>It was the same with TWW.
Not even close. In TWWH's case, people complained about the overpriced DLC and that was literally it apart from 1-2 shit-eaters spouting nonsense about "dumbed-down sieges". In DoW3's case people are complaining about gameplay mechanics en masse.

>>375501125

The user score for TWW gets pummeled because of DLC whiners who complain about DLC releasing but for some reason, just can't stop buying it

The user score for DoW3 has nothing to do with DLC, since it doesn't even have it for now

>>375487353
>It's literally an upgrade over DoW1.
No

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Why does DoW3 look like it's set in some Blizzard universe instead of Warhammer 40k? There's no grit to it, everything is so bouncy and borderline cartoony. The voice acting is also pretty mediocre compared to the other games.

>>375501223
Literal shill

>>375500824
>Name one, just ONE, game that has been improved when developers try to do this. It might as well be the death knell for a franchise.
It never works anyone ever suggesting it should be fired. It always goes like this
>Game developer has profitable game.
>We want the CoD audience!
>Next game pisses off 90% of previous customers.
>CoD players were too busy playing CoD to notice the game
>Developer is kill.

>>375500979
He realized that Japs only apologize to other Japs.
No use in trying to shame them.

Also SEGA is now one of prime distributors of great PC games.

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>>375501736

>>375500824
it literally never works
you always end up making a watered-down version of the game that both the new generation might enjoy (briefly) and alienates your previous playerbase

>>375501886
w-what are you implying. what is the anime implying

>>375501637
>Why does DoW3 look like it's set in some Blizzard universe instead of Warhammer 40k? There's no grit to it, everything is so bouncy and borderline cartoony. The voice acting is also pretty mediocre compared to the other games.
Done on purpose, they think it should look like DotA and LoL because they're popular therefore if DoW looks similar it will be as popular. Literally ork tier logic.

>>375502000
>Literally ork tier logic.
I laughed at this way harder than I should have.

>>375501939
You'll see soon, David.

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Do NOT open

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>>375502259

>>375502259
And they will all rot in Slaanesh hell!

>>375501331
>Not even close
Mixed reviews is mixed reviews.
>In DoW3's case
In case of DoW3 people complaining about DoW3 not being DoW2 or DoW1 clone.
>The user score for TWW
User score was shit, but it doesn't affect success of game in any way.

>>375502259
That's some awful art, god damn.

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>>375503150
not anymore

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>>375502986

>>375503543

Does Slaanesh even have a greater demon?

>>375503894

That giant sex demon goat

>>375502000
Dota 2 is gritty

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>>375487353
The fuck are you talking about? The campaign is a dumpster fire and that is literally the reason I play these games.

The beta was fun, but
>CDN$ 43.99

>>375504162
>and that is literally the reason I play these games.
Consider suicide

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The we want x audience never fucking works when will they learn.
They had the dawn of war audience and have pissed it away.

and another The risk style campaigns in soul storm and dark crusade were shit and was blatant training for multiplayer shit that i'm sick of.

>>375504525
>dark crusade/soulstorm campaigns
>training for multiplayer
negative mmr spotted

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https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/filename/dawn%20of%20war.png/

https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/filename/quick%20rundown.png/

This is some advanced autism

>>375504525
>They had the dawn of war audience and have pissed it away
Actually not. Good dow players like it.

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>>375504510
>M-muh esports of a janky, unrefined series of games!
Too shit to play starcraft kid? Thought so.

>>375504776

You mean /tg/, because dow has always been made for them.

>>375504838
>/tg/
Point and laugh

>>375493730
jesus i forgot how bad the field of view is in dawn of war 1

>>375504776
>Good dow players like it.
No we dont

>>375505149
You cab't rotate and zoom your camera at all in DOW3.

>>375505257
Are you shitting me

>>375505257
>can't

Shills can whine all they want

When a game has this much of a divided opinion about it, it has fucked up

Good games don't have schisms like this, good games are overall liked and its additions from a prequel, appreciated

DoW3 is obviously not a good game

>>375505149
You can change how far you can zoom really easily in DoW1

>>375505446
but it never felt far enough i always felt too zoomed in

>>375505286
You can't rotate, but you can zoom in DoW 3.

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>shillfags ITT

>>375505403
It's divided because the sperglords that love DoW 1 but hate 2 and the sperglords who love DoW 2 but dislike one won't ever agree on anything. Then you've got the fluff-nuts who hate anything that isn't exactly how they imagined the setting should be represented. Even if the game was considered perfect by the average person the game would be hated by the vocal minority of crybabies.

>>375505527
No, you can literally change how far the zoom limit is.

>>375504838
No, I mean people who was good in dow and dow2 multiplayer.
>>375505183
And who are you?

>>375505753
in DoW1?

>>375505403
>good games are overall liked
Name one.

Why don't they just make Starcraft but with Warhammer 40k units?
why does Relic insist on using the squad based units, and the upgrading/equipping of squads, and the capture and hold style map/gamedesign?
why not just make a normal RTS with Warhammer 40k stuff?
Is that too much to ask for?

>>375505945

I don't even need to go further than one month
Persona 5

>>375506197
>anime shit
>good
Oh, you're not even trying.

>>375506127

Because starcraft sucks ass. I love squad based rts. Alll i want is a coh reskin with 40k units. But even that is too hard it seems

>>375506197
But that game is shit. It is a JRPG after all.

>>375505740
Its divided because they added a moba shit core. The only people defending this are shills and corporate cock suckers who cant accept they bought a bad game

>>375506271
Persona 5 is anime shit and still manages to be more grimdark than DoW3

>>375506369
It's divided because DoW 1&2 were too vastly different beasts and people can't handle 3 not being either a return to what they want or a continuation of what they want. It's literally all "it's different so it's ruined."

>>375506127
>Why don't they just make Starcraft but with Warhammer 40k units?
Because no one want new starcraft and everyone who do can just play starcraft. Also it's outdated and gameplay like that doesn't catch spirit of the universe. Space marines doesn't extract minerals and build supply depots.

>>375506494

Its just a different colored shit

>>375506197
I recall a lot of people shitting on the english translation being so bad that it is literally unplayable.

>>375506494
Good joke, animeboy.

>>375506540
Persona 5 functionally isn't a shit game though. The same can't be said for DoW3

>>375506627
>Persona 5 functionally isn't a shit game
But it is.

>>375506627

Its still anime shit. That alone makes it shit

>>375505805
Yes in DoW1

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>>375505804
I'm the Dude.

>>375506813
And where is my money?

>>375506627
i dunno man, those RNG instakill encounters weren't very fun.

>>375506695
>but it is

It looks great, it sounds great, it plays great, even navigating the menus has been praised as a selling point by reviewers. DoW3 can't get even get basic UI right

>Dawn of Shit 3 already dropping to rank 3 in steam top sellers
>NOT EVEN A FUCKING WEEK YET

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>375506978
>It looks great
Maybe is you are an asian. But we are talking about games made for humans, aren't we?

>>375506978

I also hope you like washing your eyes with bleach if you like that chink art style

>>375506962
Welcome to Shin Megami Tensei, hee ho.

Fuck this, I bought Retribution instead.

>>375507224
One thing both games have in common is that the orks are the best part.

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>>375507080
>>375507142
>get that chink shit away from me, let me show you a real man's artstyle

[plastic wrapping intensifies]

>>375507342

>implying we said anything about DoW3s graphics being good

Like I said. Different colored pieces of shit.

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General is dead, remember how tg and v were full of hype threads during announcement?

>>375487734
True, then Britain came along and took a shit on it. 1v1 is ok, but some of the 2v2 games are just pain against the British

>>375486636
Oh.. wait.

This whole thing about the consumers trashing it is from metacritic? You mean like how Sonybuddies went full autism and left a ton of 0 pt reviews on metacritic?

Both the RTS and DoW community have some serious autism and sperg triggers. At first I thought it was the normies that bought the game (you know, the ones whose dollar matters?), but now I see it's just a bunch of keyboard warriors that fear change.

DoW 3 has some legitimate criticisms, but almost none of them are being spoken about.

>>375507454

Lots of people here dont care about 40k anymore.

>>375507454
What is that armor made of, spandex??

>>375507342
>posting image of some ancient gamebuild
That's not making your animeshit better, you know.

>>375507546

Fuckwad, we all bought the game. You need to see this shit yourself since the game has denuvo and cant be pirated.

The campaign is shit. The multiplayer is shit. The ui is shit. The voice acting is mediocre and the fucking music is non existent.

They didnt even bother putting imperium quotes in the fucking menu. What the fuck.

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>>375507639
>ancient gamebuild
>implying anything's changed since the announcement last year when all the hype built up by the trailer was immediately extinguished by these shitty screenshots 10 minutes later

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Guess I'll wait for a sale. I really hope that patches will improve the game flow.

I kind of like the changes they did to basics.

>>375507637
Soft Psychoplastic, Wraithbone is only used for vehicles, buildings and runes, that is what Dow3 cinematic did wrong.

>>375507546
>DoW 3 has some legitimate criticisms, but almost none of them are being spoken about.
All my this.
>>375507637
Expansive wraithbone? In the uncolored version the smurf was grabbing the banshee's bare butt

>>375485974
people don't care about what made the original fun, they want a moba hybrid trash like DOW2.

should have made it more like Warcraft 3.

>>375507039
a few hours ago someone was pretending it wasn't even in the list
which is it?

>>375508283
Do you want to cut trees in dow or what?

>>375508146
As shit as DoW 3 is, at least it isn't DoW 2. What an abomination.

>>375508342
spacetrees

>>375507934
Can I have a source of your claims?

>>375508342
That would be good excuse for a campaign involving the exodites.

>>375508421
>play as necrons
>"You need more timber to build that monolith"

I wish dumbasses who've never played an RTS would shut the fuck up about dawn of war 3 having basebuilding.

Building a barracks, an upgrade building, and a vehicle depot is
NOT
FUCKING
BASEBUILDING

If they were going make it this bad, it should have remained as a single building. At least then it wouldn't have to be brought up repeatedly that they do not have reasonable base building.

Fuck all you retards who say it's even remotely similar to dawn of war 1. I've been going through dawn of war 1 campaign recently to remember what it was actually like, and they aren't similar at all.

>>375508550
No one care about them.

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>>375508469
2nd, 4d. 6th Eldar codex. Aspect armor than banshees wear was never mentioned being made from Wraithbone, which is also said to be more harder than even adamantium of Dreadnoughts.

>>375508662
>NOT
>FUCKING
>BASEBUILDING
It's justright amount of basebuilding that game need.

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You will not open this.

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I'm just here to get other Ork players tips and taktics on how they play.

What are your main picks and why, along with your doctrines.

Plz and thank you

>>375508662
How is it not base building?

>>375508946
Use weirdboy or kommando nob. That's it.

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>>375508802
Holy shit that elf is thicccc

>>375508802
>Another detail to add on my Quake /40K fic.
Thanks. I assume any fuckup in the narration is because Taldeer ain't right in the head after being kidnapped by Kyras and Kyre.