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A pair of degenerates thieves are now legally making 300k/year.

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A pair of degenerates thieves are now legally making 300k/year.
Do you think this is fair /v/?
Honestly, how does this make you feel? Honest question, without trolling.
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I'm benefiting off of it and it costs me nothing
Doesn't make me feel any different than the existence of any other emulator desu
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>>372069739
Makes me feel good. Emulators are a vital part of archival efforts for video games and I have a ton of respect for people who work on archiving media, especially in light of corporation's efforts to block them from preserving history in the name of theoretical future profits.
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>giving your money to strangers online with the promise of 'X'

This is bordering on twitch donation levels of stupid
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>>372069739
nintendo will sue them honestly.

i pirate and emulate as much as the next guy but to make money off of it is just asking for you to get fucked up.
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It's a legal service that's in demand and it's not like they don't do work.
Kinda sucks for Nintendo, but I'm not Nintendo so I don't really care.
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>>372069739
I bet you would have mourned the death of the calculator industry once they released the first version of excel if you would have been even remotely alive at that point.
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>emulation is just for pirating games

aren't at least some mods aware of this shit
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>>372069739

oh fuck already

at least their doing something productive. not like your lazy ass
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PKEKS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE OUR BROS
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>>372069739

People do difficult things I wouldnt be able to handle for money. No problem here.
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>>372069878
> benefit and cost me nothing

Yep, exactly what a criminal would say.
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>>372070047
stealing is productive now? wow someone call Detroit turns out all those thieves niggs were actually responsible for a economic renaissance.
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>>372069950

And Nintendo will lose.
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Imagine being this triggered by an emulator for a dead console
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>>372069739
just shows how many games PCbro have.
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>>372069970
>calculators invented mathematical functions
Crap analogy. If excel somehow managed to use a ti-84 rom as a part of its program or something legally, then sure. But that's not the case.
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>>372069739
Daily reminder that developing emulation software doesn't have anything to do with piracy.
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>best possible scenario
>I buy an i7 and struggle to hold 30

Who cares. Where's the donation bucket for Demons Souls, I know theres a video already wheres the bucket at. FromSoft don't understand money so they'll never do it, wheres the bucked for our own HD Demons Souls? Fuck botw. Its a childs game.
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>>372070116
nope
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>>372070138
All of them?
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>>372069879
Amen.
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>>372070145
subtle... 10/10
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>>372070182
bucket*
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>>372069739
they are going to progressively slow down work now that they're raking in mad money

paetron was a mistake
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>>372070228
Elaborate
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>>372069739
Good for them. They found something idiots will throw money at. I'd take it too.
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>>372070116
>PS1 emulator shows up in a commercial capacity
>While the system is supported and on the market
>It launches
>Sony tried to shut it down
>Gets told to fuck off multiple times
>Won by buying them and cancelled further shipments and development
>Shit happens again with even smaller company
>Even boosts the games to look better
>Sony gets told to fuck off again and loses again
>Kept going until they had to stop due to so many legal fees from his shit
>Hired the main guy later to make the PS1 emulator support on ps2
Sony can't win legally so they'll win the other way, with money
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>>372069739
I'm happy that I can pirate and play Nintendo games without giving them a single cent.

Cheers Cemu team!
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Do you need a bios to run games on it?
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How is Cemu legal? What is preventing Big N from dropping a C&D on their ass.
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>>372070416
Emulation is mmot illegal.
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>>372069739
That's less than a fraction of what Nintendo earns i in a month and most of those people wouldn't buy Nintendo products anyways
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>>372070416
They are not selling the emulator, it's free.
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>>372069739
fuck it, i'm going for the patreon welfare bucks as soon as i can, seems like it has better long term prospects than a fucking job
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>>372070554
but what's your talent anon?
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>>372070416
It's not illegal
It's legal until you use Nintendo's code, bios, data, etc.

Emulation was never illegal unless you used protected code
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DAILY REMINDER THAT WHILE EMULATING MAY BE A LEGAL GREY AREA AND TECHNICALLY LEGAL, DOWNLOADING ROMS IS NOT LEGAL. IF YOU WANT TO PLAY GAMES ON YOUR EMULATOR YOU WILL HAVE TO BUY THE GAMES OR REVERSE ENGINEER THOSE TOO

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME
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>>372069739
what did they steal?

because you legit stole that artwork.
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Nothing wrong with emulation. I use PCSX2 to play ISOs of my own copies of PS2 games.

I'm totally willing to buy Breath of the Wild for Wii U legally, but I'm not buying a Wii U or Switch when my PC could play those games.
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>>372070416
Emulators aren't illegal.
It's like how you can't really arrest or stop a person who you see stuffing a bunch of shit in their pants in a store, because even though you and everyone else knows what's he's doing, you can't do anything until you actually see them leave the store.
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>>372070581
shitposting
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>>372069739
Nothing has been stolen.
The software is EMULATING the hardware

As much as you want to don't want to believe it there is nothing illegal happening and that's why >>372069950 Nintendo CAN'T sue them

Emulators aren't made for pirating software you can literally use an emulator to devlope software and hardware for the console you are emulating. You can use an emulator to play games you've legally bought. I do it with my PS2 games.

The only thing that actually IS illegal is distributing the rom/iso of a game on the internet which CEMU doesn't do.

There is nothing stopping someone from ripping the files from their legit BotW cart and playing it on CEMU. That's 100% legal to do.

So stop being a bunch of uninformed bitter losers and deal with it.
You don't know shit about anything and that's exactly why you're the one being mad about other people being successful.
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>>372069739
>thieves
Nah they're doing god's work by making sure nobody needs to be a Switch to play Zelda.
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Why isn't it open source? They stole code?
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>>372070102
>Every criminal breaths air
>Therefore everyone who needs to breath is a criminal

Nice logic mate
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>>372069739
better than nintendo getting it tbqh
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>>372070608
Of course, buddy. Thanks for the tip, I'll get on that right away.
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>Other people are paying so I can enjoy playing nintendo games for free
No problem here
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>>372069739
exchange of knowledge is good.
restricting games to specific consoles limits that exchange.
emulation allows games to be played by more people in more places more.
qed: emulation is good.
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The emulator was created from stolen devkit

that's why it's progressing so fast.
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>>372069739
Why do they have a qt cosplaying as Cidney from FFXV as their mascot?
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>>372069739
>300k a yer for the shittiest library ever in Nintendo history
Just how dumb is anyone who donated?
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>>372070801
Because they want that sweet patreon.
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>post yfw you bought a Switch already

all that money down the drain when the definitive version is on the PC for free
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>>372070665
That's a really bad analogy because you're implying that copyright infringement is the same thing as stealing, which it, objectively speaking, is not.
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>>372070801
>They stole code?

No shit Sherlock, what do you think?
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>>372069879
/thread
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>>372070929
Nintendo will shut down CEMU anytime now. Just wait I'm in contact with Nintendo.
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Why do people care for an emulator of an console that isn't produced anymore?
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>>372070882
Proove it.
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>>372070724
The reality is that illegal rom distribution will skyrocket after this is finished, and that is what 99% of the people donating to these guys are interested in. So the illegal aspect of this cannot be ignored, and laws can change as soon as someone (Nintendo) pushes it.
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>>372070903
Seems pretty smart actually, the shittier a library the more you need an emulator so you don't have to buy the dogshit console in order to play the 1-2 games in the entire library that are decent.
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>>372070882
Source?
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>>372071034
why else would it be closed sourced? Checkmate.
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I'm happy any time nintendo fans get slapped around

/v/ has been a hypocritically pro-nintendo board for too long

p.s. eat shit shills
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>>372069739
these pricks are going to take their sweet time optimizing the emulator. what they can do in a week will take 6 months because of muh patreon monies
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>>372071060
But pretty much everything the WiiU has has also been ported to 3DS.
Are people this desperate for Zelda?
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What's up with the infulx of morons who are against emulators and piracy?
Are they being ironic? Buyer's remorse, maybe?
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>>372069739

think about all that money nintendo would make if they weren't so dedicated to trying to rape their fanbase on cheap hardware
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>>372071097
Wrong. It is closed source to have a patreon up you fuckwit.
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>>372071026
Because it emulates Zelda. JUST BUY A FUCKING SWITCH ALREADY.
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>>372071136
more likely they will make it run BotW as optimized as possible, ignoring compatibility with all other games and continue game-specific strategies as new titles come out
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>>372071050
>Prohibition was a successful movement
It doesn't technically matter if it becomes illegal, most people that play emulators are lonely virgins with nothing to lose in life anyway, if they try to sue me over it they will waste more money on the court proceedings than they will get from me even if they seize the entirety of my wealth, which is close to nothing, and I do not now nor will I ever work so they will never have a future source of income from me, either. This is likely going to be a very common problem that they would run into, and in the end it would just become yet another unenforced law in our overbloated system.
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>>372071097
Dolphin was closed source, PCSX2 was closed source.

Your point????
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>>372069739
As long as they actually work in improving the software i don't have a problem desu.
But usually money brings more problems than anything else.
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When do I get to pirate Cemu so I can pirate Zelda?
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>>372069879
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>>372070316
Look up the access to justice problem.

Wether they are in the right becomes moot because legal fees are hilariously huge, simple copyright cases go well into the tens of thousands without even trying just via legal fees.
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>>372070826

> pointing out his own logic fallacy

You are the one using this logic to defend this degeneracy.

Try again.
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>>372071249
Shut up! Stop arguing back! CEMU is wrong and they're thieves!! BUY A SWITCH PLEASE.
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>>372069739
Chinese people are making billions poisoning their milk product that slowly kills children. They sleep at night without problem, people pirating games are not killing anyone so why should it make anyone bat their eyes?.
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>>372070316
just look at how riot games sued some botters and made an easy 10 mil.

making emulators is one thing, making money off of it is another.
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>>372071198
XBCX is the only thing I care to even try on that entire console, and even that looks like a huge downgrade from XBC.
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>>372069739
you are like a little babby
Steve Jobs promoted a commercial Playstation emulator live in front of the entire world 20 years ago
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>>372069879
/thread
Fuck Nintendo for nuking roms sites.
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>>372071198

The 3DS is garbage; this is inarguable. If you have any other way to play a game other than on the 3DS, do that and you'll have an infinitely better experience.
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>>372071368
They're not making money off of the Emulator.
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>>372071364
I'm okay with pirating but this might be the dumbest thing I've read all day,congratulations
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Ever since I dusted off my PS2 and found out it didn't work I've been interested in emulation and archival of games. Old consoles aren't gonna last m8's
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>>372069950
meanwhile people put ds and gba emulators on play store for sales
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>>372071275
It isn't a Zelda BotW emulator, it's a Wii U emulator and Nintendo stopped producing those.
In a few years once the stock in the warehouses runs out it will be either CemU or a scalped Wii U off ebay to play your old collection.
Once your old Wii U breaks down, you will be grateful that these guys exist.
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>>372069879
2ndPBP
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>>372071453
They are through their patreon which has cemu blatantly advertised and were stupid enough to use their real information.

We will find out in a couple of months so I don't really care.
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>>372069739
And you're stuck here not profiting from people's stupidity. Get out there!
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>>372071368
They are not selling the emulator. Patreon consists of donations.
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>>372071445
Yeah, that was the point. 3DS actual emulation would be much better.
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>>372071249
right, but make it open source and you get better, faster development without the hassle of having to set up a stable income channel to do it yourself.

unless... there are perhaps certain legal obligations that prevent it from doing so...?
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>>372071462
Kind of a big thing some years ago, all over the media.
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>>372070965
That's not what I'm comparing, I'm comparing how in both situations the precursor to a crime is something completely legal, even though there's generally one path that legal action will take.
In the emulation case, downloading the emulator is legal, and pirating games on it is illegal, but everyone knows 99% of people who download are going to use it for that.
And in the shoplifting case, stuffing stuff into your pocket is legal, and leaving the store with it isn't, but 99% of people who do that are going to leave the store without paying for it.
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Fine by me. If other people who somehow get access to development papers and can make functional emulators for more recent systems, or even improve other ones like PS2 (which I guess isn't too big of a deal, it's in a pretty good spot right now), or N64, I'd be willing to turn a blind eye to the fact it's closed source. I mean, zsnes and project64 were closed source and those were the best emulators on the market for a long time.
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>stolen devkit
>patreon

yeah wait for ninty to pull down the hammer on this shitshow
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>>372071530
You don't know how Patreon works, do you?
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>>372069879
This.
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PC does what nintendont xD
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>>372071596
I have to agree, there's only like 2 games on Wii U I want to play, whereas there are dozens of games I want to play on 3DS.
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>>372071445
>>372071596
Except there's no 3D?
Why would you want to play a 3DS game with no 3D?
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>>372071557
they have a patreon only build, thats their downfall.

feel free to laugh at them in a couple of months.
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>>372071606
...Or just get a big paycheck for doing it yourself.
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>>372071682
Thank god 3ds cfw is so much easier than Wii U cfw
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>>372069739
I'm quite impressed, wish I was skilled enough to even begin programming something as difficult as a console emulator. It's not really illegal either, although it is a bit of a legal grey area.
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>>372071718
But they release it for free a week later.
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>>372071749
but if you're that good you wouldn't need to beg for shekels on the internet to finance some shady product to begin with, just makes no sense
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>>372071718
It's a temporary only build, so I don't think there's much precedent for nintendo getting a lawsuit out. The second they get served with papers they can remove that part of it and just release the updates directly to the public without the patreon period.
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>>372069739

theyre gonna need every dollar to pay for a good legal team
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>>372071865
>It's a temporary only build
doesnt matter.

be sure to laugh at those retards when it happens though.
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>>372071709
Because games are about gameplay, not useless gimmicks.
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>>372071718
>they have a patreon only build, thats their downfall.

Which is released for everyone after one week.

Nintenbro's gonna Nintenbro.
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>>372069739
You can add another $100 a month to that number!
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>>372070102
>>372069739

Damn you are jelly.
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>>372071395
yeah I see this as the modern day equiv of shit like this and Bleem but at least they only worked with legitimate PSX discs
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>>372071898
literally their only argument needs to be "we don't want to release a potentially unstable alpha version to the public before beta testing".
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>>372071924
>Which is released for everyone after one week.
so thats 1 week of paid access.

sonygers cant into 1st grade math apparently.
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>>372069739

It makes me feel that if they had any mind, others would see how software creation as a service industry benefits from the model and adapt instead of trying to lock things out.
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>>372071985
ok, good luck.
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>>372071913
>Depth perception doesn't greatly help gameplay
You don't even own a 3DS huh
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>>372069739
>Honestly, how does this make you feel?

Awwwww yiss
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Why would you betray us like this PC bros...
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>>372071861
Why not? It is a smart move on their part. If they came up with it, might aswell charge for it. At least until donations die down once its finished
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>>372069739
>without trolling
>degenerate thieves.

Lemme tell you something, 'bro'...

Killing someone, is degenerate.
Raping or cucking someone, is degenerate.
Suing someone with the intent of ruining his life, is degenerate.

Making legal software, is NOT!

In case you were born in the 2000s, the bleem! case made emulation legal.

Emulation has been a thing since the 90s and nobody batted an eye.

Mark my words: keep doing this and you will find how 'degenerate' people can be.
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>>372071346
>I have no argument so have an insult instead
way to go
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>>372069879
FPBP of the year
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>>372072158
yeah, because if they released the code they'd be in jail
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>>372070102
You do know that more than 80% of those donations are from legitimate owners of the game and hardware they will be using it for?!


Its all about game preservation true lovers of video games that want to see the art be inimmortalized rather than fade into the dust.
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>>372072390
>You do know that more than 80% of those donations are from legitimate owners of the game and hardware they will be using it for?!
how exactly do you have this information.

id love to see how you proved this at all.
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>>372069739
They will get that kind of money for 1-2 months and then the hype around BotW will die down and everyone will pull back their patreon.
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Toddlers on suicide watch.

Hell I would be on suicide watch aswell if I spent $400 to play BoTW in 900p.
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>>372072390
>my vagina when seeing that room
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>>372072305
Uh huh, where does it say the cemu was made from official nintendo code?

If it were that way, nintendo would have destroyed them day one. As they would have analyzed and reverse engineered the emu and discovered that ages ago.
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>>372072305
Nice assumptions my dude.
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>>372072390
>You do know that more than 80% of those donations are from legitimate owners of the game and hardware they will be using it for?!
source: my ass
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Half-life 3 confirmed.
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>>372072513
You should get that checked out, sir, you aren't supposed to have one of those to begin with, and it being filled with sand is a health hazard as well.
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>>372069879
Emulation is well and good, but you can argue that this patreon is basically making them making money out of Nintendo's IPs.

When Nintendo gets a whiff of this they're gonna sue these people for everything they have.

Nintendo is usually slow on the uptake when it comes to protecting their IPs with legal action, but it inevitably comes.
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>>372072390
>Carpets
All those games, ruined before their expiration date.
>>372072513
Guy got cash, bitches go all niagara falls on cash.
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>>372072390

The room where Chris-Chan is forced to look at all his children forever.
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>>372072503
Instead you spend $2000+$5 monthly Patreon to play first 10 minutes of BotW in glorious 10fps.
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There is nothing illegal with emulation. Videogames are just a long string of bytes and there is nothing against any law saying you can't make software that uses those bytes in an incredibly similar way to another piece of software/hardware.
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Does it run well?
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>>372072102
I do, it's a great console but I don't use the 3D because it fucks the battery in the ass and has a gameplay use in Super Mario 3D Land and maybe a few other games. Otherwise it's just there to make things look nice.
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>>372072769
Didn't spend a dime on Cemu, toddler.

But hey, if you report the emulator more, maybe Reggie will stop ass fuck you and occasionally rub it in your face aswell.
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>>372071050
>Illegal ROM distribution
Nintendo gives you the files for free, dude. You just have to ask.
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That baldspot idiot actually said the term magic carpet.

ok. i liked looking at you and your show.
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>>372072662
>When Nintendo gets a whiff of this they're gonna sue these people for everything they have.

>Nintendo is usually slow on the uptake when it comes to protecting their IPs with legal action, but it inevitably comes.

You think they don't know?
You think Nintendo doesn't know about any of the dozens of emulators that have been made in the last two decades?
They don't sue because they can't sue. All of it is legal. If you want to know more, go watch Game Historian's latest video.
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S-sorry...

We didn't knew you guys could use the internet...
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>>372069879
thank you anon.
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>>372072803
Some games run good. Mario 3D World, Dong Freeze, MK8, Captain Toad, supposedly Bayo 2 and some others.

All games start with bad performance tough, and start running smoother in a few minutes once someshit with shaders finishes.
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>>372072503

not even doom music, huh?

You're just sprites turning around. Ha! I know how to play games.
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>>372072662
They are not.

1.They are making money from the ability to play wii u games on a pc, not the ips themselves. And at the end the emu is still free, if you want to play it THAT badly, wait that fucking week!

2. Nintendo cant do nothing cuz cemu uses its own code, anyone who says it uses stolen code or stolen nintendo docs is a troll.

3. If nintendo always had the power to shut down emu software, they could have done it AEONS ago. And yet they dont.
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>>372072870
Not to mention that most devs stopped giving a fuck about using the 3D in any creative ways a year or two after the console's release.
Games like Etrian Odyssey, Dragon Quest or Monster Hunter barely use it in a way that makes it worth using and Pokemon can't even use it most of the time.
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>>372072880
I love how the only part of that post you could argue was the $5 price of the emulator.
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>>372070648
>buying legacy software where none of your money goes to the company.
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>>372072662
>When Nintendo gets a whiff of this they're gonna sue these people for everything they have.

Which is what Sony did in its time against PS1 emulation (see Sony Computer Entertainment, Inc. v. Connectix Corp). Sony lost lost, but proved that it doesn't matter that you're in the wrong as long as you can abuse the judicial system to kill the competition.

Don't know how well things will work this time now there is a precedent.
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>>372073103
But Dragon Quest VII ONLY looks good with the 3D on.
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>>372073068
Thanks, does it work well with a 360 gamepad?
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>>372069739
no
this cant be happening
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I AM TAKING LITERALLY NO DAMAGE.
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>>372072959
Emulators are legal as long as you don't sell them.
By putting it on a patreon they are basically putting a monetary value on it and that's a red flag.

>>372073096
You can always argue that in court but the way I see it Nintendo can sue, and when they see that it both badly affects them AND it's stealing too much of their profits they WILL sue and they have a good case.
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U mad i get to play all of your games, Nintenbros? NES, SNES, Game Boy (all models & variants), N64, Gamecube, Wii, and (soon) Wii U all from the comfort of my average, $500 PC without paying a penny.
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>/v/ defends closed-source emulators gaining shekels through patreon, which will also surely cause the progress to slow down to near halt as devs accumulate the money
if there were no nintendofags to bait, no-one would say it's fine
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>>372073172
>abuse the judicial system to kill the competition.
Some faggots charging to make an emulator is not "competition"
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>>372073216

MORE VELVEETA MACARONI AND CHEESE PLEASE. I AM HUNGRY.
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>>372072959
They could sue claiming that CEmu uses their code from a Wii U dev kit, but it's not worth it for them since BotW is pretty much last big Wii U game and even if they did start the court process now it's too late to stop that.
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>>372073241
Yeah, but touchscreen is mapped to mouse and it's sometimes needed.
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>>372073312
Patreon is a voluntary financial participation.
The emulator is not sold, but people can still choose to pay for it.
And by the way, yes, it is still legal even if you make your emulator a commercial release.
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>>372073312
No they're still legal even if you sell them you fucking retard. Distributing BIOS is illegal and that's it.
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>>372069739
what if the cemu guys start dragging out the release to keep getting money like that yanderedev guy does
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>>372073390

Teen Titans go.
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>>372072892
Really? I have legit copy of Harvest Moon 3. So I can just go ahead and email Iwata and he just sent me the ROM version?
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>>372073312
The emu is FREE.

The preview copies are just a sign of goodwill towards the people who help.

The final FREE public builds are EXACTLY the same as the previews.
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>>372073389
Except progress is moving quite quickly.
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>>372073390

Giving another platform the means to play products out of a closed ecosystem is competition. However much you might want to frame it otherwise.

Now there's two platforms that can make use of the products.
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>>372069739
This is fucking up the emulation and kickass homebrew scene. In the future there won't be anything anymore or it's just non-free bullshit with DRM on it that barely even works.
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>>372073105
I think he realized your retarded or shit posting as soon as you said a good pc is 2k.
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>>372073348
You are fucking delusional if you think that a $500 PC could emulate Wii or Wii U at decent frame rate.
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>>372070681
accurate, but not my only talent
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>>372069739
>Pirates ending up paying money to pirate games for 'free'.
The irony is astounding here.
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>>372073525

How did i do it.
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>>372071606
Dolphin was closed source at one point moron. Once it becomes a good base emulator they'll release it to the public as always.
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>>372073497
No they're not you faggot.

>>372073172
If Nintendo does try they could change precedent, the advent of technology is drastically changing the way the legal system looks at cases like this since it's become more necessary than ever.
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>>372072880
yeah and you also aren't playing Zelda right now either ;)
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I'm happy cause I was thinking of getting a switch for botw and the inevitable mh but now i cant just play it on PC in a couple months
also ive seen gameplay and it gets sub 20 fps in some boss fights which is disgusting
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>>372073530
Even easier, you just use one of many programmes that send the request direct to Nintendo's servers and it'll download the game for you.

RIP sweet prince
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>>372073705
Do you think Bleem! was distributed for free?
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>>372073348
but can you play BOTW on the go? lol
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>>372073691

It said it too. Something about leaving. Getting out of my house. Wanted
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>>372070116
>Requires an illegally obtained BIOS to run
>Is used exclusively to run pirated software
Tell me exactly how Nintendo will lose? They already wrecked the flash cart manufacturers.
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>>372073068
>Mario 3D World, Dong Freeze, MK8, Captain Toad

these and Wind Waker & NSMB are the only games I'd say run at an 'acceptable' level on cemu, but even then there are odd graphical and sound issues and odd crashes.

Pretty much everything else runs like crap or is garbage to play because of errors. And new versions of cemu don't always fix or improve how these games run, but can actually make them worse and introduce new problems.

But because everyone is jumping on the cemu wagon purely because of Zelda, that's what the devs will focus on and string people along for as long as possible to milk them for as much as they can. Improvements for other games will just be left to rot.

The release of Zelda has been like cancer for Cemu. Have fun playing a glitchy, inferior version for the next year or so as the devs string you along and promise that the *next* update in 2-3 months will fix things.
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Cucks paying CEmu devs $25k/month while devs deliberately hold back updates so they can keep milking it as long as possible.
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>[email protected]
>8gb memory
>7850(old as shit)
>MK runs at lovely 50fps without stuttering
I'm honestly thought CEMU would run like total dog shit with my specs. I'm actually surprised by the level of performance it's capable of, when consider the Wii-U is still not officially dead.

I was under the impression that emulation happens years after the console has passed on, and was told the only reason Dolphin moved as fast as it did was because it shared a lot of the same architecture as the gamecube.
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>>372073629
Lol, you really don't know, do you?
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>>372073629
An i3 + 1050ti is just around $200~300 retard. Unless you're a kid that never had a PC.
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>>372069739
>tfw pc masterrace
>people laugh at you for spending $1000 just to play PC games
>get to play thousands of old and modern games in 4K 60fps
>"w-well you still don't have our exclusive games"
>download emulator, use superior pc hardware to emulate their shitty consoles and play all their games at 10 times the resolution
>for free

It almost hurts being this superior.
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>>372073973
Because CHILD.

As every emulator ever, THEY DONT DISTRIBUTE BIOS FILES OR GAMES!
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Before CEMU
>Nintendo + PC bros forever!
After CEMU
>STOP STEALING ZELDA FUCKING PC NIGGERS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>372073812
I can't speak for Bleem! because I don't know the details, but patreon is not donation. They are different.
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>>372074037
1.7.3: Can play game albeit with many bugs, visual or otherwise

1.7.4: Physics, a lot of gameplay and visual bugs fixed. 3 weeks after previous version released.

Yeah they're really dragging this out, homeboy
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>>372074093
shame about the lack of portability though...
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>>372073705
>the advent of technology is drastically changing the way the legal system looks at cases like this since it's become more necessary than ever.

Technology is making it *less* necessary than ever. It's keeping the money in the hands of the great fortunes that make the changes necessary, when we could be making changes that open a more competitive market where actual creators are better paid at the expense of capital owners, while giving better access to people too.

Given lobbying is done in the name of people that have money, it's more the changes that support the obsolete current model's survival that are being supported right now.
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>>372074289
still runs like garbage XD
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>>372074305
portability is nowhere near as big of a deal for most people as you toddlers seem to think.
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>>372074305
Stream it. Done.
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>>372074305
Only because you can't take it to the shitter
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>>372074136

*Adjusts tie*

First of all I'm not your child.

*drops cigarette*

And get this straight, NINTENDO ALWAYS WINS!!!

*steps on cigarette*
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>>372074157

wrong

before >>>/r/eddit
>Nintendo + PC bros forever, So NYGGERS not existant on this board
after >>>/r/eddit
console wars lmao piracy is bad le e-celebs
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>>372073672
>Implying pirates are the ones donating
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>>372074090
and I guess you get motherboard, ram, hard drives, PSU, monitor, etc free from your fairy godmother?

Also 1050ti is shit and you know it.
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>>372069879
God tier post, senpai.
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>>372074434
>gets told
>D-DOESNT COUNT!!

CuckEMUfans are pathetic
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>>372074407
Might as well say that as much as you can because you won't be able to by in about 6 weeks. I'll play it for free and it feels so good around my dick.
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>>372074501
And this is an argument or counterpoint, how?
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>>372069879
>Emulators are a vital part of archival efforts for video games
Yeah this would apply if the game console was 15-20 years old.
It isn't. There's no need to archive anything.
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>>372074447
How am i gonna stream it on the bus are you mental?
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>>372074501
Remember that, kiddo.

*picks up shot of whiskey and downs it while looking you directly in the eye*

Aaaaaaahhhh, that's the stuff. Someday you'll grow up and appreciate a winner

*picks fedora off counter and places it on head*

now you behave yourself, you hear me?

*grabs floor length coat off stool and swings over shoulder before exiting the bar*
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>>372074093
>$1000 to play PC games
Honestly you shouldn't need to spend more than $600, including monitor, keyboard, mouse, speakers or headphones, microphone, desk, chair... to play most games at decent graphics setting.
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>>372074732
>using public transportation

nintenbabbies ladies and gentlemen
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>>372074702
N64 came out over 20 years ago and emulation for it is still shit.
We still don't have a full dump of every PAL SNES game with verified hashes.
Why not start early?
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>>372074702
>Let's wait until the hardware becomes scarce before making plans to recreate it
Great plan, Anon. Surely this won't complicate the process at all.
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>>372074732
What kind of third world country are you living in where buses don't have wi-fi?
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>>372074656
It's called shitposting. What are you, new?
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>>372074649
In 6 weeks I have already 100% beaten the game and moved on.
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>>372074515
Except toddlers are the ones crying about CEMU. Its not sonyfags.
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>>372072390
>look how important I am
Meanwhile I'll play all the game fixes in the world with speedtoggle and savestates. Retro gaming is a joke
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>>372074386
I don't think so, it's the status quo that's keeping the rich the money and the startups without, the status quo is riddled with loopholes where only the rich can afford protection and can afford to protect their IPs and their ideas.

I made a thesis about this in law school, man but I won't further elaborate.
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>>372074702
Actually it is.

The digital services age makes software less durable than ever. Games like scott pilgrim or the x360 version of mvc2 cannot be bought or acquired anymore for example.
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So what's the ETA on CEMU becoming serviceable for BotW?
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>>372074305
>>372074637
Wii u isn't portable tho
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>>372074637
Portability is a non-factor for most people. Try again kiddo.
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>>372074942
Haha you bought a fucking Switch or a Wii U
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>>372075036
next update should be playable, but I would wait for the one after before going for a legit playthrough.
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>>372074434
This, why would I want to game outside? I'm serious. Outside gaming isn't comfortable. There's too many downsides and like zero positive things to say about 'portable' gaming.

>>372074305
Give me 1 (ONE) good reason why any adult should prefer a portable system.
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>>372075036
As long as the devs can milk the monthly donations
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It's a bad precedent and with the ps3 emulation team also picking up money-grubbing tactics it won't be long before more features get put behind paywalls for emulation teams that have realized they can get lots of money for this kind of shit

If I'm pirating it should be for free. I don't want to have to choose between giving my money to a jewish game company or giving it to a jewish emulation team.

Personally I prefer hacking systems or using flash carts anyway, don't have to wait for emulation to progress to where all games work. Dolphin is a great emulator but still not perfect.
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>>372075004
why is it michlan when you start to lose and argument you bring up "law school" in a vain effort to make your argument legitimate?
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>>372075153
Unstable living arrangements.
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>>372075036
May
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>>372075086
Haha you can't play BotW.
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>>372075153
b-b-but I can play it on the train (because I'm too poor to get a car lol) on the way to my wage cuck job!!
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>>372074564
>Unless you're a kid that never had a PC.

>Also 1050ti is shit and you know it.
It's enough for emulation.
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>>372074305
>being such a hobgoblin you need to take your videogames everywhere you go

Playing video games in public is cancerous.
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>>372075260
WRONG
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>>372074856
>Surely this won't complicate the process at all.
Why would it?

>>372074848
>and emulation for it is still shit.
And this is because of what?
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>>372069739
it's annoying as fuck and I dont understand how they're legally allowed to be doing this
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What I don't get is why don't they sell licensed emulators built around the already existing stores like PSN and whatever microshit uses. They sell consoles at a loss already so why don't they just spend a few bux making an emulator that can run off of disks or bought digitally through their store? I wouldn't mind paying a 1 time fee or even sub based, that's before paying for online. The streaming shit PS is doing is one step closer to that reality but that sucks unless you got good internet, we already saw how bad OnLive tanked.
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>>372069879
>Emulators are a vital part of archival efforts for video games
Closed source emulators that will stop working when Windows 14 comes around aren't useful for archival. Source code or bust.
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>>372069739
I don't understand the legality of this
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>>372075036
oy goyim we stumbled upon some severe issues but i'm sure the game will be playable once i can afford a new car
i mean soon
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>>372075260
Just like you can move on from playing it, I can hold off on playing it. Both destinations are the same. I can play other games now in the meantime and not have to stare at my Wii U or Switch gathering dust because I never wasted money on one.
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>>372075249
Doesn't look like gaming should be something you can afford if you can't afford a place to stay. Priorities.

>>372075269
If you commute on train there's plenty of things to do that would actually benefit you. If you waste time playing games on a small screen with lack of proper controllers, graphics, etc etc then you're not even playing a video game.
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>>372075289
You have never updated a PC if you think you can just throw a new CPU and GPU in and it will work.

>It's enough for emulation.
Maybe for PS2 emulation, but definitely not for Wii U
>>
my uncle works for Nintendo's legal team

CEMU is fucked
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>>372075479
>tfw to dumb to use google
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>>372069739
They are stealing from Nintendo, so it's okay.
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>>372069879
>for archival purposes
>closed source
sure buddy
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Seriously though why does this emulator cause so much butthurt?
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>>372075576
Enjoy living in the past.
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>>372069739
They deserve every penny. In 10 years there will be a lot of mods for BotW and a great active community, and you, OP, will enjoy it, and also will pretend that you AAALWAAYYSS supported the devs and was never against it.
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>>372074434
>>372074447
>>372074462
>>372075041
>>372075436
>>372075153
just because pkeks never leave their houses doesn't mean nobody ever leaves their houses
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>>372074702
Unless there are full scale efforts in place at launch there will always be things that get lost to time, 15-20 years means a hell of a lot of lost shit. Silent Hill came out in 1999 and by the time the HD remaster came out less than 15 years later Konami had lost the source code.
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>>372075596
>I don't know how emulation works
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>>372075793
Responding to multiple people at once should be a banable offence in all honesty.

Are you so addicted to video games that you need to take them outside with you?
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>>372075475
>And this is because of what?
Because it's a difficult system to emulate and because the N64 emulation scene is a mess of poor co-operation and half-finished plugins.
If N64 emulation isn't perfect after 20 years though, what makes you think that WiiU emulation will be much better 20 years from now? Better to start early.
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>>372075738
because they're just jews, plain and simple
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>>372075596
Ayy lmao.
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>>372075770
You mean future. BOTW's enhanced version is in my future. BOTW's weaker official version is in your past and you're clinging to it oh so dearly.
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>>372075860
>Are you so addicted to video games that you need to take them outside with you?
Tough words on a video game forum, kiddo.
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>>372075793
>need to game everywhere you go
I love this hobby just as much as the next guy, but when I'm outside i"m usually busy with other shit.
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>>372075738
The existence of a popular closed source emulator for any platform is detrimental to that platform's archival effort.
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>>372075793
That doesn't have anything to do with my post >>372075041
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>>372069739
They do actually do something useful unlike those e-celebs who's dick /v/ sucks.
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>>372075990
>lol if i exaggerate he'll look dumb
ebin
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>>372075976
>No argument left so he goes for the desperate 'kiddo' shtick
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>>372075856
Not the same person, but the only actual "emulator" that I ever saw was bsnes/higan in the "accuracy" version.
Everything else is just a shitty interpreter that needs hacks for many games and only the most popular are actually close to being "supported".
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>>372076097
>my argument is a strawman and exaggeration lol
I mean you're not too convincing either.
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>>372076085
>complaints 'pckeks' never leave their home
>needs games to keep him company when he goes outside
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>>372075153
>Give me 1 (ONE) good reason why any adult should prefer a portable system.

to game on the go
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>>372075793
Not an argument
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>>372076175
>He had no argument left and lost to the last guy so now he tries to argue with a shitposter in order to try and redeem himself
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>>372076261
>if i keep strawmanning maybe it'll become true
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>>372076121
Most emulators have an interpreter. Mednafen-psx has a particularly good one. PCSX2 has a software more which is the same sort of thing.
The reason we have recompilers is to run stuff fast enough to be playable, since software rendering is much slower than hardware rendering.
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>>372069739
In a just world these guys would be making three times that amount. Fat retards with cult followings, paid to recycle content and foist their shitty opinions on YouTube make way more.
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>>372075975
Sorry bro, I will be done with BotW when you still struggle to get over 20fps while trying to figure out how to skip a puzzle because magnet broke again and devs already gave you the monthly update.
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>>372076085
>>lol if i exaggerate he'll look dumb
You exaggerated first with the "lel you never leave ur house xD" comment.
>s-stop doing the same things I did!
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>>372076297
>if you want to play games outside it means you can't do anything but it
I mean yeah, you're a retard.
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>>372069739
>Meanwhile
>Dolphin is open-source, free, constantly worked on with monthly reports, and the greatest emulator to have ever existed because of those three factors.

Cemu team has some stuff to learn.
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>>372075004
>it's the status quo that's keeping the rich the money and the startups without

The status quo of what? It's funny how you're presenting what amounts to lobbying against already recognized provisional protections from intellectual property "keeping the status quo".

So yeah, I agree, it's the status quo that the problem, it's intellectual property laws as they exist right now - state enforced protectionism that fail spectacularly in meetings up their constitutional mandate, and are totally outdated as far as technology is concerned.

I don't think trying to maintain existing protection against those is anything particularly bad.
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>>372069739
>Do you think this is fair /v/?
yes, nintendo doesnt respect intellectual property on youtube at all. so this is actually karma for their practices. they expect everyone else to respect their own intellectual property. this is what they deserve.
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>>372076437
this
nothing against dolphin or other emulators, but kikery like cemu is just pathetic
love to see the cemu defense force lick their asses and spew mommy's money to their patreon though
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>>372075793
>you must be a neck beard shut in because you never leave the house to masturbate
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>>372076437
>and the greatest emulator to have ever existed
And it can only play a tiny part of the library mostly flawless.

>captcha: CALLE CALLE
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>>372069739
No, it's not fair that I can't get in on that 300k.

T. Nintendon't
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>>372076346
Who cares what you do? Who are you? Why are you so butthurt over some guy waiting to get the best experience out of a game?
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>>372070070
Just because sonybros are worse doesn't mean you're not shit
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>>372076437
You forgot:
>Has people working on it that actually know their stuff
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>>372075975
>enhanced version
>has to sit at a desk to play it
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>>372076554
You sound pretty butthurt.
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>>372076287
Simply not possible, you get a cheap imitation at best.

>>372076437
Dolphin is trash and can still not run Windwaker properly. Dolphin has DENIED people with SOURCE CODE to come together to create a more accurate Gamecube Emulator by even the littlest of hints, and they pride themselves in this. For the past half-decade they've neglected the Windows versions of Dolphin and focused on Android because that's where the money lies. (yes they do make money off of the Android version)

Dolphin is shit because it's polarizing the community that wants an actual accurate and low-cpu heavy emulator made by people with the source code.
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>>372075738
a combination of autism and bragging rights about muh exclusives from nintenbroiddydoos
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>>372076346
I'll play it when it's ready, there's no rush. You playing it already won't impact my enjoyment. No need to be a bitter baby about the inevitable.
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>>372076628
>you get a cheap imitation at best.

nope, the great thing about the switch is you get the real deal
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>>372076626
>lol u mad xD
I'm not even the guy you were repliying to.
>>
Where can I get the emulator and game?
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>>372070359
The first is Connectix and the second is Bleem, I think.

Of course, some of the anti-Cemu people would like to see Nintendo engage Cemu in a legal battle just to waste Cemu's times and resources and kill them anyway even if Nintendo technically loses.
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>>372069739

Honestly it makes me feel sickened and disgusted. Those games are supposed to be for Wii U owners and not pirates on a different platform who are NOT OUT THERE TO SUPPORT NINTENDO. You have to understand that Nintendo has been doing not so well with the Wii U compared to the rest so they should be a temporary exception until the Switch catches up to Wii levels and Nintendo dominates the scene again.

It should ONLY BE OKAY if Nintendo can stand on their feet and generate profit without worrying about pirates on PC. But right now they need all the support they can muster. So for fucks sake just get a Switch (or Wii U) and leave emulation development postponed until the damn thing is a success.
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>>372076718
Not sure why you're specifying a particular handheld. They're all imitations at best for poor people that can't afford the real deal
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>>372069879
>archival efforts
>closed source
pkeks, everyone
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>>372076554
but the best experience of the game is on the Switch...
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>>372069879
Yeah, archival purposes.
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>>372076419
>He still trying to redeem himself by attempting a lame 'one upping' of a shitposter.

Please, call me retard more. It's a win win, I'm getting the responses I want from you and you think you're winning.
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>>372070116
Except the costs of the legal battle bankrupted them. Which is exactly what would happen to the CEMU team if they tried the same.
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>>372076793
Google>>372076831
>>
There is nothing morally wrong with pirating Wii U games.
Prove me wrong faggots, you fucking can't.
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>>372076437
They've had 13 years to work on that, and it's still not up to scratch. CEMU are making huge strides all the time and how long have they been going? A year and a half?
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>>372076821
again, the Switch offers things the emulator doesn't.

I also have a 1070 you wretched poorfiend
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>>372076882
>>372076831
Sorry senpai
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>>372076484
No no no, the lobbyist lobby for keeping the status quo, not against keeping it, the judicial system has in recent years gone against the status quo because most precedent made by the courts are inapplicable to the changing times.
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>>372076437
Dolphin was closed source too for a time

>>372076623
>What is a couch?
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>>372076793
>Where can I get the emulator and game?
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>>372070724
Actually Nintendo can absolutely take them to court if they want.
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>>372076882
Thanks anon.
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>>372069739

I don't care.
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>>372069739
Yeah about that update we planned to release the next week? We had to move it to the next year....
It's programming man, complicated stuff...
But if you donate more, we maybe could go all out and make it by the end of the year..
plz donate, k tnx buy!
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>>372076983
>what is a couch?

something not usually in front of a desk... don't tell me you unironically use a PC in your living room, do you?
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>>372076898
you don't have morals faggot
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>>372077081
Nice argument
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>>372076939
>the switch offers things the emulator does not
So you agreeing with my statement or why did you reply to me if you're not responding to me at all?
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>>372075201
Trying so hard to win lol

Baby can't handle being wrong
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>>372074702
Nigga the Wii U isn't even being produced anymore
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>>372076898
>t. Jim Sterling
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>>372077024
No they can't. The question of emulation has already been settled. Nintendo would have to come up with a new reason to litigate, and there really isn't one.
If Nintendo tried suing them the judge would probably award summary judgment to the cemu guys.
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>>372077157
not an argument
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>>372069739
how are they thieves

are they actually ripping off nintendos code?
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>>372077073
>Using a PC to play games or watch movies in the living room is now wrong
????
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>>372077207
I'm not saying they would win, I'm just saying there's technically nothing stopping them from filing a lawsuit.
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>>372069739
is that crack still working?
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>>372077317
They could file it but the judge would toss it out and possibly reprimand their lawyers for wasting the court's time.
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>>372076831
Can the Switch output 4k and stable 30fps?
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Problem with the CEmu is that the monthly payment scheme is going to slow down the releases.

Why give people an update that gives them 60+fps and losing the monthly payments when you can just split it into 10 smaller updates each giving a small fps increase and release them every 3 or so weeks and keep getting those payments.
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>pay for this patreon
>pay for an emulator
>pay so you don't have to buy videogames
>pay for something borderline illegal so you don't have to pay for it legally
i don't understand this mentality, what's the point? if you want to play zelda, don't donate money to some guys patreon, use that money to buy zelda instead.
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>>372076976

The judicial system follows the law. And the law for the past decades have been changed more and more to strengthen the hold of the outdated model - because it cannot survive any other way in face of technological progress.
As much as individual judges may try to protect public interest, they are limited by the law itself.

Not to mention, as BLEEM! exemplifies all too well, you can be in the right, have your right recognized by the judicial system, and still be crushed out of existence by the economical realities of it.
All as a part of the strategy of the people in the wrong that attacked you.
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>>372077073

>don't tell me you unironically use a PC in your living room, do you?

are you literally retarded? jesus...
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>>372069739

Good for them. Are you just butthurt they're making money doing what they like, while you're still a whiny bitch?
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>>372077414
I've always thought being a judge must be one of the most tedious and boring "important" jobs in the world. I can't imagine having to hear a case like that and how bored to tears they must be.
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>>372077073
>still owning a desktop PC in 2017
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>>372077525
>why pay 5$ when you can pay 60$??
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>>372072149

You were never our bro, faggot.

PC/PS4 master race for life.
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>>372069739

im for anything that hurts nintendo as a company so this pleases me greatly
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>>372071050
Just dropping in to say good luck to Nintendo trying to change the laws in every country
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>>372077525
uh
its legal to buy zelda and emulate it
people just dont want to buy a wiiu/switch
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>>372070138

every game ever
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>>372077780
>its legal to buy zelda and emulate it
>people actually believe this
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>>372077414
They could claim that CEmu is using their code. That would force CEmu to court and show their code and it would end in on of two ways:
1. They actually use Nintendo's code and get completly fucked by Nintedo
2. Their code is clean but the court case will bankrupt them.

In either case Nintendo would get what they wanted.
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i don't use Cemu, but i do use tons of emulators for my android phone, and i'm pretty sure that i've payed for all of them, or at least the ones i use the most, and have been pretty happy with my purchases
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>>372077869

>2017
>being uninformed

shameful
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>>372077869
But it i- oh wait you're just baiting. Good bye.
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>>372077869
That's because it is indeed usually perfectly legal to emulate something you own, though you are supposed to make the ROM yourself.
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>>372077910
>They could claim that CEmu is using their code
They can't just make that claim as a shot in the dark, though. They would need to have some substantial evidence that cemu is using their code, not just conjecture. Courts don't grant lawsuits based on hearsay.
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if there is a payed version of Cemu, wouldnt that version also be available for free on one of many torrent sites? isn't this just a case of people optionally supporting something they value?
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>>372077912
You are the cancer that is wrong with the mobile software.
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>>372077918
>>372077964
>>372077983
>dumping a rom
>basically making an illegal copy of the game
>legal
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>>372074093
>use superior pc hardware to emulate their shitty consoles and play all their games at 10 times the resolution

A decade later that is.
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>>372078174
It's only illegal if you distribute it you dipshit.
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>>372078087
How old are you? Be honest with me. If you're under the age of 13 I'd advise against browsing /v/ as it contains some shocking content. You are at least 14 yes? How old?
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~everybody reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 'cause it feels good
everybody reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 'cause it feels good~
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im not paying for anything and I get free wiiu games LOL
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>>372078081
They would need very minimal evidence for it to go to court. Code copyright is real bitch to prove one way or another without forcing both parties to show their code so courts tend to do that pretty easily.
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>>372069898
Sounds a lot like pre ordering to me anon
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>>372078174
Do you also think it's illegal to burn cds you own?
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I'd love to give nintendo some money but all they sell is plastic boxes with parts in it that belong in a pc I used to have in 1999.
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ITT: Ninten Yearold legal experts
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>have full working emulator thanks to the leaked wii u source code
>release half working emulator piece by piece instead of the full thing so they can ramp up the shekels from the retarded masturd race fags
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>>372069879
exactly
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>>372076880
Wrong. The precedent would already be set so these guys would have a very easy way of having the case dismissed immediately unless Nintendo can somehow prove that their is a very different question that needs to be answered. Plus, $300,000 is a lot of funds for legal battles.
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Annoyed. People have been making and fine tuning emulators for fucking decades and releasing them for free. These jews are charging for an emulator of a console that literally fucking nobody cared about before BotW, and are only making money because "master race" want to play this one game. Making people pay to pirate (or enable them to play the shit they pirate) is the scummiest fucking shit ever. Where were all these donations for Dolphin? Or the other 50 emulators for various consoles?
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>>372077550
That's where you are wrong, in the realm of technology at least, because the law limits them as you have said - the courts have taken matters into their own hands, there is "judicial activism" (in a sense) brewing, and I think the precedent may change anytime.

Look, I'm not an expert of US law, but I do have a grasp at least because we basically copy a lot of US jurisprudence and our legal systems are very similar, that's why I cannot answer you with anything beyond this.

And I'm in a fucking vidya forum, why should I answer you elegantly even?
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>>372078605
I am also well versed in Bird Law
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look at all this assblasting haha wow
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>>372078636
>These jews are charging for an emulator
cemu is free you tard
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>>372069739
There doing amazing work to preserve the Wii U legacy. Lord knows Nintendo isn't going to do it.

Piracy = history
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>>372074159
>bleem
>donation
No anon, that was the first commercial marketed emulator for the playstation 1.
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>>372070826
damn newfag do you even greentext?
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>>372069739
Sad that I can't rake in the same kind of dosh, glad cause I can finally play Zelda.
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>>372069739
>Paying monthly for an emulator
By the time Cemu's going to be functional, you could have used the money you've spent on it to buy a cheap Wii U, hack it and play all its games
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>>372069879
>>372070256
>>372071012
>>372071443
>>372073062

>Closed source emulator, devs making 300k/year promising to make BRAND NEW GAMES playable

>The heroes we need, preserving old games for the future

Pick one.
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>>372078650
Judicial activism, which you seem to just be throwing out there without understanding it at all, only occurs when a law does not address a factual situation brought before the court. Only then can the court interpret what they felt the law makers intended.

Example: Eating ice cream is illegal. However, this defendant must eat ice cream to survive otherwise he will die. The law does not address this situation. The judge can now say that in cases where eating ice cream is necessary for the survival of a person, they can be excepted from the law.

Another example: Eating ice cream is illegal. There's nothing wrong with eating ice cream and the defendant really likes it. The judge cannot allow the defendant to eat ice cream because the law is clear. Defendant goes to jail.
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>>372078636
They are not charging for it, people are willingly giving them money.
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>>372078650

They may have taken things into their own hands, but you know, separation of powers and all that jazz. The best they're ever going to manage is limiting impact of bad legislation which they (thankfully) cannot overturn.

That battle will have to happen out of court. That's where lobbying hurt the most.
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>>372076628
Wind Waker runs perfectly for me
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>>372072769
What do you mean?
I already own a PC, you truly are a delusional faggot
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Its only an Emulator no one is stealing anything. Most people that are emulating these games have bought the games then ripped the code.

If someone pays $60 for a game I dont see any issue with them making a backup and playing it on PC.

You listen to corporate shills to much OP
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>>372079072
Cemu is free, these are donations. Show me where you can get a wiiu for free and play its games in 4k.
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>>372079095
Better start early.
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>>372069739
>A pair of degenerates thieves are now legally making 300k/year.
Emulation isn't theft, despite what publishers and console makers would like you to think
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>>372079267
Then you haven't played the entire game.
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I just realized everyone here is a lawyer. This is great, if I ever end up getting arrested I'll show up here.
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>>372077073
>this straw grasping
Damn dude
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>>372070365
>I like these games but fuck showing the devs that I do!
>WHAT THE FUCK WHY IS THE VIDEO GAME INDUSTRY SO SHIT NOW, WHY IS NOBODY MAKING GAMES THAT -I- LIKE?
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>>372069739
>2017
>/v/ is reddit now
>kill me

I remember when you guys were ok with pirating games and emulation.
now you even get to see anti piracy threads.
fuck you dude.
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>>372069739
>A pair of degenerates thieves are now legally making 300k/year.
>Do you think this is fair /v/?
>Honestly, how does this make you feel? Honest question, without trolling.

mfw
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>>372069739
Can you nintenbros stop getting so fucking beyond buttdevasted every single day? It was entertaining at first, now it's just annoying and pathetic.
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>>372079423
Not him, but what is supposedly broken? I played it years ago on Dolphin and the only issue I remembered was the fire being retarded and like reflecting or some shit, which was a minor graphical issue that really didn't matter outside of the Rito dungeon. The rest of the game was fine.
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>>372079593
I'll give the money when/if they show a new good Metroid/Fzero/Starfox.
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Thanks for making me aware of this site, OP. I just became a patreon of theirs.

:^)
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>>372079375
Show me where Cemu can play all Wii U games at 4k 60fps
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>>372078803
>>372079153
Okay, so they don't have the newest version (meaning the best way to play BotW, the only game people care about) behind a paywall? I guess I was misinformed.
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>>372073312
>Emulators are legal as long as you don't sell them.
And where did you found this bullshit?
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>>372079115
I don't think I'm wrong though, judicial activism is basically the courts interpreting something that in itself creates a law. This is done to bypass the lawmaking body, and it's been used in technology in particular against patent trolls, though not yet as radical.

Judicial activism is overall shunned.

What your describing does not really encompass all of the definition of "Judicial Activism", in fact what you are saying is regular exercise of judicial power.
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>>372079884
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>>372069879
I agree with this sentiment for older media, but you have to keep in mind that the profit incentive is what gets preservation-worthy games made in the first place.
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>>372079813
>perfectly
>the only issue I remembered
SO it's not perfect for you either. Thanks for making my own point.
>oh and also this other thing
Just one thing was needed to prove my point but thanks for the double-up
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>>372079906
they release it for free a week later. and you can always pirate the patreon build
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>>372079595
One of my first threads on /v/ was asking about pirating the Orange Box because I wanted to play TF2 after seeing all the threads about the game. The entire thread was people getting assmad at me for suggesting pirating the game because it was Valve (before they turned into jews). That was in 2007, a full decade ago.
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>emulators are only there for piracy
>degenerates making money
>fuck preservation of old classic shit

Please, keep it coming. This is hilarious.
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>>372069739
Nothing at all. They can do what they want.

Nintendo clearly knows that CemU is a thing. If their copyright lawyers haven't even the devs alive for taking money for an emulator, then they're not doing their job and thus any loss of revenue is on them.
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>>372080282

See >>372079095
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>>372079906
People who donate get access to updates a week before public release.

>>372080268
emulation =/= piracy nintendo
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>>372080154
Great reading comprehension, my dude. I very clearly stated "not him", therefore I personally never said the game ran perfectly. I also only listed a SINGLE issue, the fire, so I don't know where this "oh and also this other thing" shit came from. Do you have brain damage, perchance?
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If Jewtendo just made a console that actually used innovative technology and not just rehash old tech into a gimmick their consoles would only be possible to emulate towards the end of their next consoles life cycle. Thus minimizing the loss of profit as much as possible.

If ya park your car in skidrow and it gets robbed, fair enough its shit your car was stolen, but it's pretty hard to have sympathy for you. A sensible company would factor this as a potential risk in developing a generation behind its competitors. Maybe it's a cultural thing, but it seems inevitable to me.
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>>372079981
>I don't think I'm wrong though, judicial activism is basically the courts interpreting something that in itself creates a law.

Then you're have a deep misunderstanding of how a state configured under the separation of powers is supposed to operate.

The legislative body makes the law.
The executive enforces it.
The judicial interprets it.

The judicial is only able to interpret in so far as it doesn't stray out of the space opened by the legislative.
It doesn't make laws, and has to respect the spirit of the law it's interpreting when it does.
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>>372079846
No you won't. You'll just find another pathetic excuse like "yeah this is the F-Zero game I've always wanted... B-BUT I'M NOT BUYING A CONSOLE FOR -ONE- GAME, FUCK NINTENDO! Hugh, and now they have a cool-looking Metroid... B-BUT I'M STILL MAD ABOUT THEM C&D'ING AM2R, THEY WON'T SEE A CENT! Oh shit, the new Star Fox is amazing... B-BUT IT'S IN 900p AND SWITCH EMULATION IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER! I'M GONNA PLAY IT AT 4K 60FPS BY THE END OF THE YEAR! SUCK ON THAT NINTENDORKS!"

That's what pirates do. Come up with shitty excuses like "I'll buy it if they do X/if the game turns out good" to ease their conscience, but even if their arbitrary conditions are met, they just commit a few more mental gymnastics to continue pirating. It's this hypocrisy that's really disgusting.
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>>372078246
Nothing wrong with waiting a while for a better game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAEzQ1PZWK0

Meanwhile, the Switch can't even keep a constant 30fps at 900p in BotW.
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I have never paid a single cent for a console game and that sure as hell isn't going to change. Can't wait for Cemu to work better for more games.
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Mad cause didn't think of it first
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>>372069950
Do you know how much money the PS1 emulator companies made? 300K is nothing.
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>>372080747
Nigger you don't know me. I bought a 3ds when it came out just to have SF64 3D.
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>>372080061
>HA HA THE WII U CAN'T EVEN PLAY ITS GAMES AT 4K 60FPS!
>Can Cemu?
>MUH GOALPOSTS
What did he mean by this?
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>>372080091

But those profits are not owed. If a competitor can manage to make a better product than yours for less (emulator vs console) then its a good thing for the market.

And you can still turn a profit on the sales of games. Piracy is still illegal - those emulator using people have to buy the game, supposedly.

It's funny how people never seem to remember that in a perfectly competitive capitalistic society, companies don't turn a profit.
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>>372080910
>tfw mlp glasses
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>>372069739
>Some peoples are working hard for free software
>they get compensation
Feels right.
At least more than giving money to peoples who work hard to scam you.
Kill yourself, drone.
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>>372080609
No, it's clear you naive of how judicial activism is,, at the same time how encompassing judicial power is.

Justice Holmes said it himself well, the courts have the power to make law, all it has to do is find a basis for it and to take care not to infringe upon the principle of separation of powers.

Time and time again have Supreme courts around the world trespassed into the territory of the legislature.
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>>372079884
Smash, MK8, Bayo 1 and 2 are 4k 60fps at the moment. Obviously a lot of games are capped right now but there's no saying what will happen with time, just like Dolphin.
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>>372080282
>I'M NOT PLAYING GAMES FOR FREE, I-I-I'M PRESERVING A PART OF HISTORY! I'M SAVING THE HERITAGE OF VIDEO GAMES!
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>>372081054
Wait what. Are you serious? For fuck's sake, can't save anything from /v/ these days.
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>>372081006
what the fuck. cemu can play wii u games at 4k, thats a fact, just not all of them.
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>>372069739
>Crime pays
more news at 11
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>>372081347
I once posted Kirby wearing them. Think I got a warning so that's how I figured out
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>>372069739
>N-Toddlers are literally stalking that patron every day.

How can you be so fucking angry and autistic, how. A downy is much more intelligent and reasonable than you.
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>>372069739
Why can't Nintendo do anti-emulation?
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>>372069879
what a nice excuse for something that's basically pirating at this point
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>>372081469
Why is it so hard to emulate that 16 year old console tough?
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>>372081469
because their hardware is shit and PC already has Halo 1
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>>372069739
I never owned a console in my life, yet I have played and finished lot's of console games. All of this came from emulation and I don't regret a thing.
Console exclusives are idiotic and anti-consumer. And as stated before, the best way to combat piracy is always offering a better deal (i.e Netflix).

Even though I'm not paying them and don't intend to, this is completely OK in my book.
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Can you run Bayonetta yet?
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>>372081809
> And as stated before, the best way to combat piracy is always offering a better deal (i.e Netflix).

This.
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>>372081198
>No, it's clear you naive of how judicial activism is,, at the same time how encompassing judicial power is.
>Time and time again have Supreme courts around the world trespassed into the territory of the legislature.

I'm thinking you're way overstating de facto over de jure. Certainly, there is some reduced margins, verdicts can have effects similar to laws, especially in the lower regulatory realms. But they're not new laws unto themselves and cannot create or remove laws altogether (number of times I've seen a judge despondent on having to deliver a verdict that follows the law).

And as much as I like having the court on my side, I would rather it stayed that way really.
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>>372069739
Can you blame them? If I were them I would of course milk money from retards. They will probably release zelda fixes a bit at a time so they can squeeze every possible cent out of autistic people.

Also, everyone wins I guess. More people gets to play Zelda (because pirates don't buy games in the first place) and I'll get to play at 4k for my second playthrough in a couple of months when the game is playable.
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>>372072390
That's a damn nice collection
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>>372081659
Little interest and poor documentation of its hardware.
Most emulation is based on leaked documentation. Dolphin is made from leaked docs, Cemu very likely is to be able to progress this fast.
Look up the oman archive, that's where most of the N64 documentation comes from.
We have jack shit on the Xbox's graphics hardware.

Homebrew can help a lot with working out how systems work too.
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>>372081016
Take a load of this retard pretending to know about economics.
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>>372069739
300k between two high level devs is nothing, they could be making far more having an actual job with the skills they have
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>>372069739
Hopefully they can get Hyrule warriors to actually work.
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>>372082540
$150k and self-employed sounds pretty good to me, senpai. Nobody's checking up on how much work they're actually doing.
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>>372072390
Prove it nigger.

>>372072480
He can't because he's full of shit, trying to justify people earning to 300k/year enabling piracy of new games.

It's basically going against everything emulators are for. Preserving old games out of love of the games.
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>closed-source
>donation-only
As a /g/nutard I hope you enjoy the botnet, also thanks to everyone defending this, can't wait for all the non-free nu-emulators people will start making now!
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>>372082508

Don't tell me, you believe following a Keynesian policy is being a leftist commie, and not being a capitalist pragmatist?
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>>372075183
The funding is there so that they actually have time to work on the emulator, and not choosing to code something for free when a paid job takes the priority. Time = money
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>>372082728
That's what you want emulators to be for, but it's hardly what they were ever used for.
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>>372072503
>I would be on suicide watch if I spent $400

Poorfags, everyone.

I'm enjoying Zelda, +100 hours in about to do the last dungeon. It's such and amazing game, I might finish it this weekend so I can start Nier: Automata. Then when CEMU is ready, around the end of the year probably, I'll play it at 4k too.
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>>372069879
Yeah man we really need to preserve this game that just came out days ago bro
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>>372082137
>They will probably release zelda fixes a bit at a time so they can squeeze every possible cent out of autistic people.

Jesus, you toddlers are really nothing more than rabid retards. Both shitposters and normal posters were saying that it would have took 6-8 months to fix the main glitches since those were strange as fuck, and the asinine idiots like you were saying that it would have took more than one year since cemu guys were going to try to milk people for sure. Guess what? The main glitches that made the game not fully playale have already been fixed, In 2 fucking weeks. With the next cemu version the game will be suddenly actually playable.
Now, please, can you mentally challenged toddlers go to talk about things you like instead of embarrassing yourself for no fucking reason? I'm telling you that for your sake.
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>>372077284
>awesome now I just have to carry a portable mouse and keyboard to use this this isn't awkward at all!

lol
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>>372077449
can CEMU?
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>>372083518
You know that theres apps that let you use your phone as kb and mouse right?
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>>372083076
>not wasting money on shitty nintend systems means being a poorfag.

Yeah, no. Also, the fact that you are here trying to justify your purchase so fucking hard in an anonymous imageboard says everything.
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>>372082756
>also thanks to everyone defending this, can't wait for all the non-free nu-emulators people will start making now!
This, enablers are the worst
>b-b-but i want to play muh broken zelda at 15fps!
and now thanks to you we'll likely never be given the source code to extend CEMU, or emulate any newer consoles without needing to donate to some fags patreon, whoever actually gave money to these idiots unironically needs to kill themselves.
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>>372083650
It will.
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>dolphin is free, open source
>takes them a decade to get the emulator functioning in a playable state on non-supercomputers
>cemu devs lock the latest build for the first week behind a $5 paywall
>get pretty much every game working in a matter of months
Seems like a pretty okay deal to me
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>>372082852
The reason emulators are legal is preserving old games.

If we admit they are mainly used for pirating (especially CemU where they are emulating brand new games) then that justification goes out the window.
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>>372083937
And I'll be glad to pick it up then perhaps
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>>372084065

The fact that a tool can be used to commit a crime doesn't make the tool illegal.
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>>372078430
>>372069898
anon is right, this is kikestarter. I just realized that that is why everyone is posting CEMU. IT's not sony shitposting, it's just ordinary shilling by the devs.

Let me guess, polish? We already ahd the witcher, the fallen, hatred and a bunch of other polish shit games. CEMU is polish, right?
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>>372084065
>The reason emulators are legal is preserving old games.

Yeah, I'm sure legislator and lawmaker were thinking about preserving children games.
>>
Why does Nintendo always get rekt by piracy and emulation?
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>>372084065
making your own application from scratch that emulates something else is not illegal

dumping and distributing the game images that you didn't make is illegal
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>>372083878
>wasting money on videogames

geez, I forget I'm on /v/
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>>372084292
They're Dutch
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>>372083832
>controlling a computer from a phone app

I'll stick with something designed to work with the living room end to end, thanks
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>>372084305
>rekt
>lose no sales
???
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>>372084209
can be potentially used to break the law

vs.

is used for crime most of the time

Are the majority of people donating to CemU legal owners of Breath of the Wild/WiiU? I doubt it.
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>>372084421
Ah, mijn kameraad landgenoten

We dutch already made hte most falsified pound coins, xtc pills and illegal transport shit, I'm now proud.

Under EU law online piracy is illegal, our Dutch interior affairs minister said he acknowledged this fact but wont prosecute anybody usig illegal software.

< AW YIS
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>>372078636
>>372079906
just pirate the emulator
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>>372084449
>you can softmod a wii u/wii/3ds through the browser
>it takes <5 minutes to softmod a wii u and people were playing zelda a week before it released
>they remove the browser functionality from switch because of this
>>
150 for each is industry standard for what they're doing.
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>>372084295
They were thinking about allowing people to continue to use products they bought and legally owned, even after the manufacturer stopped supporting them.

So in short yes, yes they were.

But like I said, it all kinda goes out the window when CemU devs are emulating brand new games and making 300k/year.
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>>372084398
>skipping the two key words of that post since it's convenient.
>moving the goalpost so fucking hard just to try to justify a purchase.

Yep, we are on /v/.
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>cemu authors likely to be the people who help make emulation illegal
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>>372084442
>controlling your pc with your phone to make things more convenient is somehow wrong
what
>>
>>372084442
Less power 2 u m8
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>>372084449
If the casual crowd knew how to homebrew Nintendo consoles they would be finished.
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>>372084747
>making 300k/year.

What's with this dumb tell you keep idiots keep spouting? Do you really think that so many people will keep giving them the same exact amount every month of the year? 99,9% of them gave 5 $ and won't give cemu devs one dollar more.
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>>372084786
Why would I justify a mere $400 purchase? I'm not some poorfag.

>Not being able to enjoy all kind of objectively good videogames regardless of company.

/v/ indeed.
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>>372085371
>Why am I doing what I'm doing?
Ask yourself, it could also be a good moment to rethink about your life.

>I'm not some poorfag
But you are clearly an insecure fucktard for sure.

>Not being able to enjoy all kind of objectively good videogames regardless of company.
>he still ignores what I wrote just to move the goalpost.
>he's still trying so ducking hard.
Anon, I got that you want my approval that much, but you won't get it with such crappy posts.
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>>372072390
>Boxed NES, SNES, and N64 games

god I love them. I miss the cardboard boxes so much and wish I never threw them out.
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>>372069879
I pirate shitloads, but you'll never see me use pathetic lies to hide the fact that I steal all this shit.

I think it's part of the future though, sharing information. With all hte good (free shit) and the bad (zero privacy)
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>>372086041
>Anon, I got that you want my approval that much.
This is so silly it's funny. Thank you for the laugh anon.
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