Dwarf Fortress

>>371351532
I'm ready to play real video games with graphics and not "play pretend and just make it up in your head" """""video games"""""

Instead of playing Dwarf Fortress you might as well sit in a dark corner, close your eyes and imagine you are going on a grand adventure while you tap yourself on the back for being SO much smarter than all those plebs that actually go and play video games to have fun

friendly bump

>>371351532
So he finally learned some tricks from Sean Murrey?

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>>371351770
KEK

>>371351770
>I'm ready to play real video games with graphics

You have to be 18 to post on this website.

Cannot wait for the five year delivery on this

>>371351770
You can play Dwarf Fortress with graphics now though, so what's the problem?

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>>371351770
When I play dwarf fortress I'm not having fun? What the fuck why didn't anyone tell me?

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>>371351770
>you might as well sit in a dark corner, close your eyes and imagine you are going on a grand adventure

i do this every night when i go to bed

I never got the hang of the new military system and it ruins it for me

>>371352443
Artificial fun doesn't count.

>>371351770
ebin. you tell em man le us gamers right xD le

>>371352438
hey at least

>berserk will be finshed

>we'll have robots in the near future

>the switch will have some "Cool" retro games like metal slug anthology or Streets of Rage

>>371352750
>Berserk will be finished
:^)

>>371351532
oh yeah, can't wait for the fps death to come sooner since even more is getting crammed into a single core!

all jokes aside, it sounds great, hopefully it won't fuck my dwarves too hard now the elves will have something more threatening than tree branches

>>371352546
Dude I didn't even know. How can I tell artificial fun from real fun? I don't want to experience another dwarf fortress

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How do I get into Dorf fort?

>>371352689
Stop trying so hard.

>>371352450
I used to do this when I was 10 or so
But the years have drilled that innocence and imagination out of me. Now I'm hollow and emotionally absent

>>371353049
Lazy Newb Pack and the step by step startup guide on the wiki.

>>371353049
read the wiki
ask questions in the /vg/ general

but most importantly play the damn game! launch it up right now! sure you won't know what you're doing but you'll figure out some things, and what you can't figure out you look up.

>>371353062
Make me

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>>371352859
Follow the advise of the Anime

>>371351770
Hol' up, let me get my universal translator.
>language identified: retardese
>age identified: 14
>brain not found
---start of rine---
>I want to play CoDclone #9001 with consoleshit graphics and prebaked shadows!
---end of rine---
---rine ends here---

So yeah, I play Star Citizen and E:D for graphics, DF for immersion and complexity, UT2004 and Q3A for competitiveness. What do you play? CoD and Minecraft?

>>371353049
just be yourself

>>371352546
Don't you have crates to unlock?

>>371353049
have the wiki open while playing the game, learn how to set labors on your dwarves so you don't have lazy assholes doing nothing, finally, be patient and remember losing is fun

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>>371352450

Bruh I thought I was crazy for doing this

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>>371353218

I love reading interviews with Toady.
It's fascinating.

>>371353062
That's probably the most tryhard post you can make on this site though
Second only maybe to "Stop trying to fit in"
Literally posted only by kids trying to fit in

>>371351770
yea i hate books because you "play pretend and just make it up in your head"

An anon in the last Df thread said that LNP was updated to 43.05 but I was unable to find the LNP for that version. does anyone have the link, or was I being rused/mistakenly misled?

>>371353636
Toady is based and gives no fucks

>>371353049
have autism

>>371351532
HOO BOY
I really hope I don't die before I get to see a finished Dorf Fort

>>371353049
The Wiki is your friend m8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESNRQFEzirA

Is it true that you need a GOOD computer to run Dwarf Fortress?

I am interested in it but I have a toaster.

>>371351532
Coming 2027

>>371353973
Not at all I'm using a desktop from five-seven years ago & it works like a charm

>>371352450
>>371353545
I do the same thing

I take notes of any good ideas that cross my mind or any good dreams for any vidya or other projects I work on

>>371353667
Stop being retarded

http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Utility:Lazy_Newb_Pack

I've tried to get into this game a few different times but I always run into the same damn problem that for whatever reason I cannot get a food economy going.

I've followed a few different youtube guides but I don't know what I'm doing wrong, shit always breaks down and my food supplies always run dry.

It's too bad too because I actually really enjoy the game.

>too stupid and impatient to run the fort mode
>can enjoy the adventure mode
>love the stories the game makes as people play

Dorf Fort is a treasure upon vidya.

>>371353973
they only real thing would be a CPU, the game is extremely intensive in the late game, you can alleviate this be restricting caps

>>371353973
This is mostly a meme nowadays, but in general the longer you play the game the more intensive it becomes on your CPU.

Eventually all Fortresses are killed off from FPS death

>>371354093
>>371353545
>>371352450
I used to do it, but since I've been playing roguelike like *bands and playing lots of pathfinder I find the need to do it less and less.
I'll miss the crazy fun imaginary would i had set up though.
>>371354106
following the link, for the windows version in my case, leads me to:
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=7622
which is 43.03

>>371354178
Also the music is gr8

>>371354093

I don't take notes, have good ideas, and then forget it all within 5 minutes.

>>371354385
Write them down you ding dong.

>>371354292
>43.03
I guess that I'm the retarded then.

>>371353973
You know you have mastered at least the basics when the second biggest killer of your forts is FPS death.

The biggest is taking one look at the map and your autism overtakes you because it just doesn't look right.

I hope he goes for Discworld magic.

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>>371352450
I just imagine porn.

>>371354178
This. I'm too casual to play it, but I can still recognize the value games like it have and anyone who can't do the same should stop shitting up my hobby and quit vidya

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>>371354561
>benis

>>371354436

"Better just have my handy dandy notebook"

>>371354561

This too

>>371354474
It's all good, anon.
>>371354534
being bad at fort design is suffering. It either looks bad or it's inefficient.

>>371354385
>>371354436
>"There's no way I could forget this"
>2 days later can't recreate the thought
>6 days later i can't even remember I ever had it
every time

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>>371351532
how about if he simulates THE GODDAMN ECONOMY AND NOBLE SYSTEM back into the fucking game!

>tax collectors
>guild leaders demanding that you do XX amount of a certain job otherwise they tantrum

quit adding new stuff until you fix the old stuff that many people LOVED

>>371354647
Oh god don't remind me, I fucking stall on the first entry because none of my designs look right.
I've been cheating by just carving out cave formations in the caverns, that has an aesthetic of its own, even if it is rarely efficient.

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>>371353973
I was able to run one of the early 0.4x.x version on pic related. It runs as slow as molasses where it takes a good five seconds to move in adventure mode.

On more the recent version I run DF on a 2014 Intel Atom netbook, FPS tends to fluctuate between 10FPS and 25FPS on a busy ~80 pop fort.

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How does this make you feel?

>>371354804
that's the worst bit. I try and plan out in notepad or something what the floors are going to look like, keeping industries together, etc. Then I start building and designing and before you know it my fort looks like ass and it's only OK in efficiency.

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>>371354912

I didn't think I would be upset by anything tonight but you definitely managed it.

>>371354912
Disgusted but accepting of it. Toady's still getting paid and can survive, pornfags will always get paid more. But the nature of porn patreons is they have a chance of just vanishing in a flash of smoke, just like that one smut patreon that went under because the artist fucked them.

>>371354912
Mad even without Toady's portion in this picture because Fenexo is a hack.

>>371354912
Id donate if he announced he was going to start working on the economy in the next release

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>>371353218

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>>371355148
kot

>>371354912
At least he gets almost 5k/month. That's very good income abd allows for s comfortable life.

>>371355835
He could go live in Thailand and live like a king on that.
Not like his job requires him to be in the US

>>371355835
And keep in mind he gets more via paypal donations.

Toady is the only developer I give the benefit of the doubt. He can claim all kinds of outrageous things about Dorf Fort and I'll still believe him.

>>371356812
He has published research in hard math. If the dude's ambitious, it's something that can easily be reached.

The only doubts I have about Toady are his ability to eventually derive a multi-threaded version. OpenMP is a huuuuge piece of shit and he'd have to manually designate how to break up each process. You could get huge gains just splitting entity pathfinding between threads, but besides that it's a lot of difficult streamlining.

How much do you guys pause when you play dorf fort? I feel like I don't plan out my forts very much and it ends up being mediocre and unsatisfying. Am I just retarded?

>>371357345
I pause a lot.
Yeah I find it a lot more satisfying when I carefully plan out my forts.
I've had a lot of fun sketching out caravan drowning rooms and impenetrable defenses on paper before implementing them

>>371354912
It's annoying that Fenoxo gets so much but I'm happy that he's making a very comfortable patreon salary

>>371354912
He has a patreon?

>>371353658
This

>>371358571
>>371353658
>likening your shitty pixel game to actual literature for adults

literally proving his point

when will df become multiplayer?

>>371351532
I'm ready for a LazyNewbPack update, gosh dang it.

>>371358984
almost certainly never
how would that even work?

>>371352450
Thank Jesus I'm not the only one.
In my mind, I'm a necromancer stealing away the world's souls into a vault to bring about the wrath of God as a martyr to kickstart rapture.

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>>371355263
Is that cat a girl or a boy?

>>371359214
make it an mmo

>>371359456
I understand even less than I did before.

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>>371359453
it's a kot

>>371352450
>tfw creating D&D characters While I go to sleep that I'll never ever get to play

>>371359561
what's so hard to understand? there's a world you join and your dorfs can interact with other peoples dorfs and you can form alliances or make war with other players

God I can't wait to hear about some mouse infected with a magic virus sneaking into your fortress and somehow lighting everything on fire.

>>371359724
>tfw Tovald the Blacksmith accidentally hits a magical rock and blows up their entire fort

>>371359679
You do that too? I've been trying to work out an ideal gunslinger/support hybrid but the feat tax is too strong. I really just want to shoot things and heal dudes.

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>>371359453
"Jazz" sounds like a male name.
Plus, he doesn't get dressed up in skirts but only in gender neutral and masculine clothing.

>>371359672
Yeah, but I've seen a pic where it kinda looked like it had nipples.

>>371359816
How many fucking pictures are there of this kot in front of food, it's fascinating

>>371359772
Borbang the Lurid Man-Scorpion who sprays magic beer out of his left spiny claw that turns all pixels it comes into contact with into beer, flooding your fortress with beer, your dwarves are happy.

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Knowing Toady, it will look like this:
>first 2 years are placeholders and stubs everywhere
>next 2 years have bards sing new songs about magic
>next 2 years bring a very convoluted system not available to player that only amounts to bugs and enemies shooting fireballs once per siege
>then he gets bored with the idea and switches to something else

>>371359453

Kot in Russian means male cat. Koshka means female cat.

>>371359720
But you can pause the game at any point. It's actually important that you be able to do that. Everyone's game would be out of sync. It would be winter in one fortress, summer in another, and summer three years ago in another, all at the same time.

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>>371359921
There aren't many things to do in russia. I mean interesting things, not things that NEED doing (unfucking the horrible culture, making economy less reliant on natural resources etc.).
Taking photos of kot in front of blini is something to do.

>>371359969
>>371359902

>>371360191
Male cats, just like male humans, have nipples.

>>371355946
>2015: $60603.43
>2014: $66765.31
>2013: $48999.11
>2012: $57854.88
>2011: $42294.19
>2010: $54501.15
>2009: $32516.44
>2008: $32318.46
>2007: $19052.28

>>371354561
I thought everyone did this.

>>371354912
Not much, I think toady deserves it more but he makes good money with that and donations put together, not to mention pornfags always make alot

>>371352450

I kinda do that too but mostly because I try to get ideas or progress a story for my novels that I will never complete because I lose motivation

Do you think he'll complete his existence simulator 100% by the time he dies?

God I wish I was half as motivated as toady

>>371354754
Because he literally doesn't fucking care if you play the game. This is his pet project. People will like it or they wont. He wont change anything or do anything unless he himself wants to.

>>371360838
I think people gives too much value into that. Makes me wonder if people expects great adventures like the ones from books and cinema from a game that forces you to stop reading menus every 30 seconds.

>>371361080
It is more realistic to say "a lot of people won't complain, but if money started being a problem, he would change his ways".

>>371351770
classic

>>371351532
I'm more ready for him to get it to run on more than one core so the game doesn't die from fps death after 3 simulated years

>>371353640
stop trying to fit in

>>371351770
go back to your "cinematic" games fag

>>371353640
>Literally posted only by kids trying to fit in
Stop trying so hard

Lvl 26 here and I tell tryhards to stop tryharding when it's obvious.
You can tell an actual edgy tryhard trying to fit in by the stupidly negative kind of edge:
>this site is soooo worthless, you're just addicted lol
>things you enjoy aren't enjoyable because they aren't enjoyable for me
>the whole western world is wrong except /pol/ because /pol/ wants traditions (like most of the uneducated people in western world)

It's something posted by kids who have already figured out that the world is horrible, has no objective meaning and everything that could possibly ever happen will someday be forgotten by the universe itself and erased from history forever, but who haven't yet realized that being angry at and shitting on things done contrary to their taste is among the more pathetic and meaningless things one could do.

tl;dr Grow up and stop trying so hard to fit in, kiddo

>>371352450
I do this but the adventures aren't about me, they're about centaurs and witches and shit.

>>371351770
I thought dorf fort had had real graphics now though?

>>371352450

I used to do this until breath of the wild came out, fuck it even outpaced my imagination with the half life 2 tier physic puzzles

>>371364919
There are mods that render it in 3d, although I don't think it's in real time. You can also get a tileset that replaces the ASCII with pretty pictures.

>>371351532
>Toady will die before DF is finished
How do you go on with this knowledge??

>>371355037
woah, where can I donate my patreon bucks to get fucked by the artist?

>>371358951

No his(your) """""point""""" was that because it has no graphics, you might as well play pretend.

Same logic as saying dice rolls and character sheets are pointless in TTRPGS, because you can just say and do what you want anyway.

>>371365163
It's hard. I only hope that he doesn't suffer and that he's able to work on the game right until the bitter end. I hate to imagine him wasting away in some nursing home, dreaming up new mechanics and their implementations but being unable to actually do anything about it due to some disability.

>>371360838
Is he that motivated though? Obviously I know little about coding, especially something so big and continuous as DF, but he updates like once a year on average. I can't imagine that requires 8 hours a day of hard coding. For all we know he may work in sleeples 72 hour spurs and take weeks off in between.

>>371353218
Holy shit the cringe ! Are you real ?

>>371365734
According to interviews, he works for roughly 100 hours a week, about 80 of those being on dorf fort. Of course, he could be lying. He is basically a one-man team though, with his brother contributing to game design but no coding.

>>371365629
>nursing home
I'd imagine his death more like
>Toady is eating breakfast
>suddenly he jumps out of his chair
>runs outside the house
>sees his brother on the ground, stabbed to death
>Toady grabs his socks
>his cat meows loudly at nearby bush
>an ambush!
>attacker chases Toady, stabs him in the liver, scratches his nose off, punches him in the third left toe breaking it, cuts him in the balls castrating him and punches straight through his brain finishing him off

>>371364567
>Lvl 26 here

and stopped reading

>>371351532
Best game ever

>>371354716
Totally normal, brain processing.

>>371365905
>cuts him in the balls castrating him
Interesting that you mention this. You can geld animals to prevent them from reproducing but as far as I know, there is no way for combat to cause an injury that would prevent reproduction (other than death, of course). I wonder if this is a deliberate choice or an oversight.

>>371365804
heh
another one down..

>>371353973
>Text based "graphics "

You could run this "game" on a abacus with CPU to spare

>>371366125
I saw some screenshots with "it is a gelding strike!".

>>371353973
It does.

If you have the MOAR COARS type of CPU, any fort larger than 2x2 will be unplayable.

>>371366308
Oh cool! God bless Toady. He really has thought of everything.

>>371366404
>He really has thought of everything.
Except gameplay

>>371366474
Shoo! Shoo!

Classic dorf fort thread, no one actually talks about the topic. Everyone is just in awe that they get a thread.

The magic and randomly generated creation myths seem like a cool idea. The proof on concept being a world in which teleport magic is free sounds awesome and it's then coded for pathing to consist of teleports in that universe. He also said something like teleporting might have a huge drawback in one universe but the characters will still consider using it. So I can imagine getting invaded from a camp across the world and they all teleport into your base only to have been turned inside out.

ETA is three+ years so, I'll be excited to see it. The early mythology stuff looks like it might get implemented this year and they're going to fix economies and shit.

>>371366284
It actually needs quite a lot of CPU power.
It's GPU it doesn't really need much.
I wonder if any calculations done by the game could actually work better on GPU, though. Not that many games do it nowadays, but since all this power is unused, there's no real obstacle to doing something like that, unlike other games where all this power is used up on the graphics. Of course, it's a pretty specific class of calculations that is parallelisable to such a degree, and I'm not sure how much the game uses them.
Then again, from my impressions calculating on GPU is actually pretty hard, because of its unusual architecture compared to CPUs. Toady would also need to do it right, and I'm kinda sceptical about his actual programming skills.

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A simple meme farmer, tending to his crops.

>>371353973
You can limit world size, map size, and population so it will run on anything.
Someone got it working on an ipad or something I think.

>>371351770
I can smell the inferiority complex in your post.

don't worry, I couldn't learn DF either

>tfw no lignite or coal

>>371359672
>What kind of cucumber is this?
>It's kiszony!

cant wait for hacks to rework his ideas with actual graphics then charge money 5 years later.

>>371367240
People have been doing this for years.
>Towns (Which had potential but devs decided to run with the money)
>Gnomeoria
Now alot of people will get triggered but:
>Rimworld

>>371367240
>what is minecraft

>>371367331
Rimworld went into an entire different direction. I don't know why people compare DF to it.

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>>371351532
That sounds really cool but I doubt it'll be in the next update which I hope drops soonish.
Getting quite tired of playing this version, it's almost been a year already or something.

>>371367240
>cant wait for hacks to rework his ideas with actual graphics
and that would be bad for some reason?

>>371367632
yes. hes an idiot for not charging money.

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>>371367054
czech out this here cucumber

>>371367470
I got really marketed as a DF inspired colony manager.

>>371367331
>>Towns (Which had potential but devs decided to run with the money)
>>Gnomeoria (Which had potential but devs decided to run with the money)
>insert every single other dorf fort clone here (Which had potential but devs decided to run with the money)

>>371367331
Even Introversion, makers of Prison Architect, openly talked about being inspired by DF in their monthly youtube videos.

>>371366787
>I wonder if any calculations done by the game could actually work better on GPU, though.
Even just implementing multicore calculations would do wonders. But Toady doesn't want it because it doesn't tickle his autism.

Flow, temperature flow, "physical" mapgen passes like erosion - all perfectly GPU-doable.

>>371354912
Today got like 800k just from paypal last year
I think he's fine to go.

>>371351770
This
Maybe liking dorf is just an ironic meme. The maker even admit he doesn't know any other programming language. If he do there's no way he would make dorf the way it is

>>371368039
what

>>371360358
>inb4 someone starts screaming INFLATION

>>371367685
The reason dorf fort is so great is because it's Toady's passion project, selling it will probably ruin it.Also theres nothing stupid about doing something you love.

>>371368271
>making money to pay someone to make a graphics version would ruin it.
sure thing.

>tilesets are casual
I'd like to create a pixelart tileset from scratch.
I'm bothered how most tilesets are just ripped from old gameboy and snes games.
How about something new and fresh?

>>371368039
I guess all the fun i have while playing the game is ironic fun.

>>371368039
>being this mad about being too stupid to dorf
It isn't even that hard.

>>371357345
I only play adventure mode.

>>371351770
>implying getting out of bed is better than just staying asleep and lucid dreaming
Why even bother with anything in life?

>>371368397
>entirely based around tile interaction and logic
>NO WE CAN JUST MAKE IT GRAPHICS, IT'S EASY.
Just go get a fucking tileset, that's the best the game is ever going to have.

>>371351532
>you will never find an not ASCII interface non autism level without it being casual either

I want to play it but I got no time to learn default interface unfortunately

>>371366759
I'm kinda looking forward to it.
There have been so many unexplained things that happened to me while exploring in adventure mode.
Like a mountain I was climbing crashing down in a ravine.
I suddenly had a 20+ page log of my character being crushed by rock and mud and I still dont know exactly what happened.

>>371366284
>he thinks the only thing games need to compute are graphics

>>371368589
Simple, someone pulled the lever.

>>371368397
Why waste money on graphics?
The game's stablished playerbase gives no fucks, and so does Toady.

>>371368587
It takes like 5-10 hours to learn the UI commands fluidly and you'll still be playing while learning.
Also the graphics are really very good and easily modifiable in the .ini and there are shitloads of tilesets for whatever might tickle your fancy.

>>371352450
Do you also imagine a specific imaginary waifu who adventures with you and eventually falls in love?

>>371368920
Yes.
My ex

>>371368589
I haven't played in quite some time. At least a year, probably. Has adventure mode changed much? Used to be you'd just wander around aimlessly looking for shit you can kill. Then toady added vampires, which usually fell into the category of "shit you can't kill" because they were fucking legendary in everything.

>>371368589
When you hit ground, the ground hits back.
In DF, it's pretty literal: the game actually spawns a virtual cube of dirt and rams it into your body.

>>371368782
does it push you into a different tax bracket? come on whats the real reason?

>>371368920
>>371352450
Silly fools

It's time for you to realize
Imaginary guitar notes
And imaginary vocals
Only exist, in the imagination
Of the imaginer!
So, who gives a fuck anyway?

>>371354161
You don't suck man. If anything, you're playing it right.
Because after you solve that issue, your fort will simply die from something else.
And as you get better at the game, you'll stop being satisfied with just this, and will get more ambitious.
It is this learning process that is argueably the most fun about the game.

So keep at it! You're not even near as good as you can become!

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>>371352450
>Lay in bed imagining all these cool fucking stories I could write just like my japanese mangos
>Never actually do it

>>371352750
>berserk will be finished
>in five years

>>371368991
One of my characters turned into a undead necromancer after I raided some tower.

>>371369082
Toady is a maths professor. He does not code like a real programmer would, thus he has this weird flow of spaghetti that works.
Besides, it's his hobby project. The fact that someone else enjoys it has little to no value what so ever.

>>371354161
What I do, and I learned this from captainduck, is set up a plump helmet farm for the first couple of years. Then I spam stonecrafts, and eventually when the traders start coming I request max food from them.

If you're looking to produce then it's much easier now that it used to be because of hens. Slap down a couple of dozen nests and run your fort on omelettes.

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>it's a neo-/v/ complains about ascii based tilesets episode

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>>371354912
How about this?

>>371369082
What exactly do you mean by "make a graphics version"?

>>371369303
Today's autism and math genius status is what makes this game so special.
He doesn't work by programmer logic, but by insane math genius logic.

>>371368887
you know your "video"game is great when you need to spend 10 hours just to learn to decipher what are you looking at

>>371369082
Gee, maybe he geniunely likes working on the game?

>>371369402
fucking over rimworld and prison architects devs.

>>371358951
>literature
>for adults
If you are still reading any kind of fiction after 15 years of age then you aren't an adult, you're a manchild.
Put down the book and grow the fuck up.

>>371351770
This post is so correct it's hilarious

just a reminder, dwarf therapist works for latest 64 bit version both linux and windows now.

and dfhack is also compatible, but in beta stages.

(lazy newb pack exists for that version with said things included)

>>371369639
>dwarf therapist works for latest 64 bit version both linux and windows now
ayy thanks I didn't know this
was getting tired of manually assigning all my dorfs

>>371369493
>10 hours
Maybe if you are retarded, which you seem to be.

>>371369493
What the fuck are you on about?
The default tileset is great and it's easy to examine any object you want.
I said it takes 5-10 hours to get the command and build menus get going fluidly.
Much the same as with some roguelikes like Nethack or grand strategy games like hearts of iron.

>>371352450
same desu

>>371351532
This fucking nerd need to fuck off with his garbage. Soon it will become unplayable and crash hard. I don't care about his autism, there's no game there and it's all shit.

>>371369530

>adults do not read books!

Must be American.

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How the fuck do I play this game? I want to learn but I'm afraid

>>371369876
I don't understand your post. You dislike the direction the game is taking or you dislike the entire game?

>>371369926
Open the wiki and don't read any guides.

>>371369905
He said adults don't read fiction, you illiterate shit.

>>371369905
If you have time for more than just crashing infront of your TV every day after slaving away at your job then you are clearly a literal child and need to grow up.

>>371369693
it's in the therapist thread tough,

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=122968.msg7392774#msg7392774

>>371369926
Open the wiki and read the guides.

>>371369392
how much time until someone get patronized to make cp or another illegal thing?

>>371351770
The same could be said about all videos game.
Just you pay for yours.

>>371370159
pretty sure stand alone emulators are only illegal if they use some of the original code.

>>371369926
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Quickstart_guide

>>371370159
If only patreon had some way of controlling who uses their site

i've tried but i just can't handle the ui
i want to be able to click on tiles with my fucking mouse

>>371354161
Plump helmets grow on soil underground. Flood your fort with plump helmets. Also, assign some dorfs to hunting.

>>371351770
lmao what a shiteating fag

>>371354912
It's still a fucking nice sum.

>>371354024
Late this year said Toady.

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>>371352450
I can't help but do this.
I hate it. Because i highly suspect its whats keeping my mind alert and preventing me from FUCKING FALLING ASLEEP

>>371370341
>flood with plump helmets


you want variation tough, and not have plump helmets rotting causing refuse pile workload piling up.

best option is making a top-side farm with above-ground plants, because they can't rot outside / cause miasma

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>>371359958
>introduced broken as shit, mages moving onto the map will either immolate your entire fortress or themselves
>players are later able to learn spells and use them for genocide and adventures
>menial uses for magic are found and mages are kept chained in a cellar to keep the forges working without magma
>eventually nerfed to the point that they just cause a tantrum spiral to be far more violent

>>371370630
Well yeah you want enough of them put in containers and used in brewing.

>>371370630
you're making too many if they keep rotting
a 3x3 plot can feed like 50 dwarfs

>>371370159
>implying the website isn't already being use to launder money

>>371370630
food doesn't spoil if it's stored in a barrel
>>371354161
Make a fort next to a river and wait for the inevitable flood of fisherdwarves to show up with migrant waves. Your dwarves will never go hungry

>>371370928
it does rot in barrels unless you have cats permanently stored near the barrels.


vermin causes rot to food

Do food and drink count as wealth in DF?

>>371370769
>The Archmage Deathsong, the Destroyer has come!
>Deathsong casts thunderbolt
>Deathsong is struck by a lightning!
>Archmage Deathsong, the Destroyer has perished.

>>371369926
Learn one task at a time.
Look up how to dig out a shelter, do that. Look up how to make a farm, do that. How to chop down trees, make a carpenter shop, assign jobs to it so you can have beds, etc. Don't try to make a functional fort the first time, you will most likely not succeed. It's really not a hard game, the UI is the real challenge for first time players.

>>371370974
yes, it's the best source of wealth imo

>>371352450
>sit in chair
>set some tune on autorepeat
>go on imagination trip
Almost every day for hours for my entire life.

>>371354912
One is porn. Other is not. What do you expect?

>>371370968
Why wouldn't you have some cats running around?

>>371371063
This. Cat muffins are like 30% of my dwarfs food intake.

>>371371160
The other 70% is finely minced dwarven ale/wine?

>>371371063
it's not enough that cats run around, they need to be permanently situated near food

What is Toady made out of?
He is former meth-head math autist who lives by night and has worked on a single game for over a decade.
What is that man made out of? How is he that dedicated, how it all came to be?

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Never played DF as I'm not sure if my autistic level is high enough, what mods are essential?

Should I get the "starter pack" which comes with stuff included, which tileset should I pick?

>>371371253
He's got some bizarre math degree and draws with crayons all day and plays some subhuman musical instrument.

>>371371236
I haven't found that to be the case. Is that because I usually have my meeting area near my food? Or have I just not noticed all the food that's rotting?

>>371371294
>what mods are essential
the rapist
>which tileset should I pick
none

>>371371294
The only "essential" mod is dwarf hack for ease of use when you got 200 little shits running around and pump out millions of dollars of diamond encrusted demon bones.

>>371371329
cats tend to bond to people, and only follow them.

only way to fix it is pasture them where food is, or chain them at entrances so goblins stab them.

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>>371371253
I wish Bethesda would hire him for a couple years so we could finally get a TES game with proper NPC A.I

>>371371294
Just download the game and >>371370296

>>371371294
>what mods are essential?
None are truly essential. Therapist will make managing your dwarfs easier though and a tileset will make make the game easier on your eyes if ascii is a no go.

>which tileset
Man, just google them and decide which one you like. Or try them out, it's not like you can only ever try one.

>>371351532
#AskiiMagickStronk

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>>371371294
therapist is essential, dfhack is semi-essential

i personally have started to like the Spacefox tileset

>>371371253
He's the game dev we don't deserve.
Works tirelessly towards his pure vision, untainted by the outside world. Doesn't go uploading it to steam and charging for early access, shows no signs of losing interest.

He's the game developer I wanted to be when I was a kid and hadn't been repulsed by the vile state the games industry has exploded into.

>>371371253
There are tons of dedicated autists, just that most of them do not get as popular and memed up.

It's mostly luck. If you were a dedicated autist in the time things were getting popular, you roll in dosh.
For example, Thomas Biskup, creator of the ADoM roguelike, who is a gigantic cunt, had a 10 year break in development, has made a kikestarter and now has tons of shekels.

Meanwhile devs for many better games are doomed to freeware stuff, then dropping out of vidya dev.

>>371371392
I just canny dae it captain, my brain doesn't want to compute the vanilla visuals

>>371351770
That sounds like fun actually.

What do you do with idle dwarfs? They always trigger me. Sometimes I just assign ten or so to smooth and engrave everything.

>>371371410
Didn't really answer my question. Without managing my cats at all, I've never found vermin to be an issue. Why is that?

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>>371351532
>>371351770

Years later this comic is still 100% canon truth.

>>371371515
dfhack has a job manager built in, rapist has a shitty tool in another window with mostly useless tools

>>371371597
dfhack is not good at anything job related, just fyi.

it's good for utilizing the manager, but not managing your dwarves.

therapist outputs mood, happiness and abillity to change labors on fly.

that's what nice about therapist. You get a visual representation of what is, and isn't, and don't have to search for it.

>>371371575
That's what I normally do with them. Make the fort pretty while the useful dwarves do useful stuff. I guess you could also make picks for them all and make digging super quick, or make armor and weapons for them and expand the military.

>>371371585
you probally never played in one of the more "advanced" biomes then.

i'm guessing peaceful calm / neutral calm only

>>371371563
Tilesets always trigger me because of the way they change the way some of the text is displayed on other screens.

>>371371575
Try to set up some industry you will need later.
For example, train them in stone crafting.

Masonry is pretty good because stone blocks have no quality, so retards can train up without wasting "valuable" rock.

>>371371793
You guessed right. What happens in the fun biomes?

>>371369754
>>371369493

30 years old neckbeards.

>>371369926
Just start playing.

>>371351770
>not daydreaming epic scenarios
>not lucid dreaming
wow this place has really become saturated with normals satisfied with their lives huh

>>371371838
TWBT.
Problem solved.

>>371372107
I already solved the problem by learning to love the ASCII

>>371371912
Your point?

>>371371912
Not an argument

>>371371546
How is it possible for DF to be a legit fun game with surprising depth when a fair-dinkum autismking like ulililia can only enhance the degrease ratio of his scrolling background for a decade solid?

>>371371905
more vermin spawns, larger vermins.

if evil biome + necromancer tower nearby, then everything that dies will come back as undead.


it's basically just more challenge, but with sieges and invasions, you p much can get same experience in any biome tough.
all it depends on is what you want to do, like if you want HUGE war beasts you gotta pick the "tuffer biomes", which has 2 more spawns for animals (4 slots), and can spawn large beasts.


like giant war tigers, or giant war bears, or giant war elephants

>>371371575

Make extra workshops for them
Mass smoothing and engraving
Recruit into military
Atom Smashing if can't assign to any of the previous 3 tasks

Wait, so there's going to be magic in DF now?

>>371372161
That's actually avoiding the problem, anon.
Don't try to pick a fight with me over aesthetic choices, I don't get upset if you prefer playing with ASCII that's how I played for years and didn't mind it one bit

>>371372406
There already is magic in DF, just limited to necromancy.

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>>371351770
>I can't understand this game at first glance and am too lazy to learn so everyone playing it is just imagining everything that happens
This shit will NEVER get old.

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>>371368468
>I only play adventure mode.

>>371372343
Atom smashing dorfs is a terrible idea now that ghosts exist.
They will haunt your compactor and spook the guts off your garbage man.

>>371359902
Anon, I heard you have nipples, are you a girl?

>>371351532
>magic dorfs
If anything gets me back into dorf fort it'll be this tbqh senpai

How to get good at DF:
>learn what's important at embark
>make a single room with beds and food productions
>seal your room
>dig down to lava
>build smelter
>hope you embarked with those steel greaves
>???????????
>just do whatever you want from now on

>>371372615
Have fun with those tantrums caused by unhappy thoughts

Curses_square_16x16.bmp was here.
Graphical tilesets are for queers.

>>371372295
Uli is turboautist, Toady is a moderate autist.
Toady's moderate autism means that he doesn't care about gameplay but spends hours on randomly generated dances and dildoes.

Optimal autism is somewhere below Toady's, but significantly above normie. Many roguelike devs are at this level, which causes a lot of drama.

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I fucking hate neo-/v/ graphics fags.

>>371354912
Fuck that makes me want to donate to Toady when I get my paycheck next week

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Playing adventure mode with stonesene on another screen is surprisingly atmospheric

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Who's got pics of cool forts?

>>371372745
If you're referring to the single room, you a)free to be architecturally more engaged and b)a single steel statue is more than enough to make all Dorfs happy, regardless of their living conditions.

>>371372538
You can easily just make a memorial slab

>>371372745
Unhappy thoughts from what?

Cavern food is diverse enough, 7 dorfs are enough to not feel lonely, cave clothing is not penalized in any way.

>>371372879
never thought of this. I'll have to try it.

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>>371372879

>>371372098
Seriously, this. So worth it. Games will never catch up to LD.

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>>371372902

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>>371372967
Really cool experience if you're not a purist.

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>>371372902

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>>371373079

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The first time I found a vault in adventure mode I shat bricks.

>>371372745
Lock away the upset ones to die alone.

>>371373079
>>371373148
I never plan far enough ahead to have a style like this. Looks rad.

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>>371373148

>>371372834
I agree. The consumerist thirst for graphics has killed video games.

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>>371373207
Just like in real life

>>371373239
Well i'm gonna steal this pixel by pixel in my next fort.

>>371372490
Yeah but i mean like something a dwarf can leaarn. How will it work, will there be a new "workshop" or something?

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>>371351770
>2017
>playing video games for fun

>>371373301
Tries and tester my entire life, so I know it works well.

>>371370017
So is reading fiction more childish than shitposting on 4chan?

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>try countless times to play dorfs
>too retarded to comprehend what the fuck is going on
>i will never have fun with df

end me i beg you

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>>371373156
More vault monstrosities. Seemed a bit unpolished when I played and discovered a vault in my world. Were they supposed to lead up to something or is it just a random thing that happens in world gen?

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>>371353218

>>371373402
Try RimWorld. It's like Dwarf Fort Lite.
But if you have the fortitude, try to watch someone's DF let's play, they usually know what they're doing to start with and you can get an idea of how to dorf.

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>>371353973
You don't.

Having a good computer just delays the inevitable death of your fortress as it grows too large and tries to track too many things.

But you'll never reach that point usually, because either your fortress actually becomes too big and automated to fail, and thus becomes boring, or already died.

>>371373402
Go and have fun with something else then. It's a valid choice.

>>371373353
Read the fucking link in OP

>>371351770
Used to do this with imaginary friends at first (either existing fictional ones or my own creation) , then my real friends, but since I've become friendless again I can't go back to the imaginary ones. Everytime I start I end up thinking about my old friends. It hurts.

>>371351532
k, keep me posted.

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>>371366125
>>371366308

>>371372834
>>371373283
funny i recall having these same arguments a zillion years ago. lol 2 cat.

I've always wanted to play this game, but the lack of graphics always turned me away.

Did someone say COMPLEX?

Fuck this autistic ass """"game"""". The fanbase is fucking cancer, hailing it as the 2nd coming of Christ and spouting awful memes "HAHA GUYS !!!!!FUN!!!!!! XD".

This game is fucking terrible, no wonder only manchildren and autists worship it.

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>>371373774
It has plenty of graphics packs nowadays of a multitude of styles. I'm sure you can find one to your liking.

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>>371369639
Oh yes, it's been far too long.

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Most valuable relic? Here's mine. Some anon even drew a picture of it for me

>>371373891
The day /v/ stopped like DF was the day /v/ died.

>>371373715
>stab them in the kidney so hard their nuts fly off
That's some whiplash.

>>371352450
Fucking this. The best part is when you are about to fall alseep and your imagination transfers into super realistic dream state.

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>>371373774

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>>371374007
I also got this once but don't have a screen to show it's value

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>>371351532
This dumb fucker needs to redo the control system. It's hilarious how easy it is to redesign the controls into something simple and intuitive but he's just too lazy to do it.

People act like the controls are the way they are because the game is so hyper complicated and it needs equally complicated controls, but in reality it's just that he assigned actions to whatever keys were free at the time as he developed the game system and never bothered to design a cohesive control set up.

Now it has become an elitist point of contention that "filters out casuals".

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>>371351770

>>371374016
The world has changed, people actually have to work and contribute now, kids are more aware of what's out there. As people become more aware of the real world they realize how games like Dwarf Fortress are a complete and utter waste of fucking time. "XD DORF FORT SO HARDCORE!!! SHITTY CONTROLS SHITTY GRAPHICS BUT ITS !!!FUN!!!!"

Reminder that toady did meth during his uni years

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>>371374163
t. trump voter

>>371374163
>"XD DORF FORT SO HARDCORE!!! SHITTY CONTROLS SHITTY GRAPHICS BUT ITS !!!FUN!!!!"
Exactly my point.