Who here /notbuyinganewconsoleuntilmonsterhu nter5isannounced/

>>369974304

Aye.

>>369974304
If it doesn't have MHX mechanics I'll be sold.

They need to fix the FoV, remove Styles and Arts, revert nerfs to weapons (Bow, CB, LS, GS) remove prowler and deviants and I'll be down to buy a switch just for MH5

For fucks sake just give me a proper pc monster hunter already. God eater is a poor bandaid.
never ever, I know

>>369974480
Yeah, they should remove all those optional to use things.

I think they should remove any weapon past 2nd Gen. Even if I don't have to use them

>>369974304
seriously
this
Switch will get it but I need that announcement, it sucks because Double Cross is gonna need a 12 month life span before they make MH5

>>369974705
Oh yeah man Field of View being reduced, Weapons being nerfed to compensate for styles, prowler being mandatory for missions, deviants being mandatory for missions sure were optional changes.

>>369974585
>there will never be an mmo monhun game

why live anymore

>>369974705
>fov
>optional

MHX's change to the FPS, Textures and FoV made me nauseous playing that game.

4U's end game is also vastly superior, I'll take random apex GQ140s over the same monster 30 times for a full set and then the same monster another 300 times to level them up 10 times

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>>369975052
>Never
But there's been a PC Monster Hunter for 10 years.

Though it's not really an MMO in the normal sense since the largest groups can get is 32 for a single monster and even then it's still divided into 4 man groups.

>>369975052
anon

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>>369975363
wait how did I miss this
>>369975406
oh shit ya'll aint playin'

>>369974705
>Styles
>optional
In a game where most of the fun is playing online with randoms putting in baby mode casual shit like styles is not optional

>>369975363
i thought the monhun mmo was jap/china only?

>>369974304
monster hunter on switch when?

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>>369975756
Frontier is JP and Taiwan only.
Monster Hunter Online is the Chinese one.

Thankfully hitting monsters is the same no matter the language.

>>369975782
Announcement after MHXX is released

>>369974304
Get out of here Pat

>>369975685
You know you don't have to use them right?

>>369975685
>caring about how other people play the game

Pathetic. If the game forced you to use adept or aerial i'd agree, but you can fuck off right now if you complain how other enjoy their time with the game

also,
>playing online with randoms

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>>369974585
There's a chance Dauntless will fulfill that dream, though I have to emphasize the word "chance".

>>369975946
>The point
>Your head
Too stupid to read I see

>>369975954
Have you ever been tripped and complained about it? Of course you have

Guess fucking what, thats the exact same thing as someone using a style, literally any o the styles, since they all make the game a total fucking joke cake walk. They gave these complete overpowered abilities and gave the monsters nothing in return.

The fact here is you're a casual, and literally trying to ruin MH with your inability to play. No more replies for you, I dont want to breath life into your idiocy.

>>369975954
>GL runs up and blasts you continuously
>Dude, stop it, you're ruining the hunt
>WEW PATHETIC HOW DO YOU CARE HOW I PLAY!?
>>>/mhg/ is the containment board for people like you who cant handle MH being hard. I bet you dont even know what 140 means.

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Yep.

>>369976179
Once again, you do realise you don't have to use them right?

>>369976380
i thought the place for "DON'T TELL ME HOW TO HUNT, LET ME USE GUNLANCE AT THE HEAD" was youtube and that faggy youtube guy who's name escapes me

>>369976461
Once again, you didnt even read what I wrote, you realize in order to have a valid argument you need to actually address the point right?

>>369976461
Why would someone not use something that trivializes, dumb down the game, and completely makes short work out of monsters? The best way to play MHX is to quit and play a better MH game like 3U or 4u.

>>369976461
Are you thick, hes saying that others coming into your game using styles diminishes the value of the hunt since it makes it easier since styles are broken. Not that you do or dont have to use them.

And guess what hes right

>>369976285
Going online is making the game a cake walk, senpai. You don't get to complain about the styles making the monster a joke if you take 3 other people to hunt something

>>369976516
One more time anon and read carefully.
You don't have to use THEM.

>>369976461
>Have to hammer a nail
>recommends you smash your teeth on the nail rather than use the hammer the game provides
"You dont have to use it" is an excuse used by idiots trying to justify a developers failure to balance their game.

MH was balanced for years around weapons with minor changes between the games, and its worked pretty well in most cases.

Styles and Arts threw that out the fucking window into a train driving into the sun. Literally every single fight in X/XX is the most casual MH game by miles because styles exist.

>>369976668
>trying to save face once you realize I was talking about weapons and not people
Pfthhahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Holy shit anon, thank you for that, your idiocy is fucking priceless.

>>369976668
>them
>implying people
>conversation was about weapons
>actually playing MH alone when the best times are with randoms or friends
Youre a moron please kill yourself.

>>369976786
You should ignore him, he honestly believes reduced FOV is an optional change.

>>369976716
>"You dont have to use it" is an excuse used by idiots trying to justify a developers failure to balance their game.
THIS. Either Capcom should remove them, or balance them, but in their current form they are objectively shit.

>>369974304
I am.
Hopefully if it's switch it comes with the MH skin that the 3ds came with.

Just put it back on a proper console like the fucking PS Vita or PS4.
I will never understand why Crapcom decided to screw Sony over.

>>369975685
>In a game where most of the fun is playing online with randoms putting in baby mode casual shit like styles is not optional
Then don't go online.
Don't use styles.
Just play MH normally you casual piece of shit you don't need to go online especially in gens where there's no G rank.

Oh and git fucking gud, if it's gotten to the point where you're complaining about online then it's clear that you're just using people to carry you.

>>369975607
It's weird but it's got cool shit
>Zenith Khezu has instant kills where it just eats your hunter
>Can also just cause cardiac arrest
>Wolves
>One of the wolf hunts exclusivly aims for the person who started the quest because it's programmed to assume it'll demoralize the entire party if the leader is killed
>Baruragaru which is some sort of blood sucking lamprey dragon
>MAGNET DRAGONS
>Also way more elements but they're more just combined and mixed elements.

Shit's neat.

>>369974304

I'll get my switch if MonHun gets announced or it gets hacked. Whatever happens first.

>>369977182
>>Zenith Khezu has instant kills where it just eats your hunter
Stopped reading here.
Instant kills are not okay.

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>MH5
>not MH5U

also make all non rath/diablos/elderdragon/rajang gen 1/2 monsters fuck off FOREVER

>>369974304
Me, and I'll only buy it if it doesn't have any shitty gimmicks like X did. Really didn't enjoy it, 4 was pretty good though.

>>369976142
dauntless looks like a group of devs were told what a monster hunter game was, and then they attempted to recreate it.

>>369977337
Nigger, instant kills have always been in MH
Get good.

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>>369975685
>In a game where most of the fun is playing online with randoms

>>369977481
How does instant kills always being there make an instant kill okay?

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>>369977337
The eating attack is super telegraphed.

Doesn't even get the moving one until later ranks either.
Considering what you deal with on most other monsters it's easy as pie to avoid.

>>369977569
Getting hit in frontier brings you down low enough where it might as well be an instant kill.
And it's okay because the point is DON'T GET HIT RETARD.

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>>369974480
Honestly I'd rather have the deviants stay. It's a nice break from fighting recolor 47 with slightly different moves. Granted some sub species are great and better than the original--Ash Kecha, Purple Ludroth, and Ivory as examples--I do feel deviants add a nice end game. Just change the armor and weapon requirements, that's a heaping hunk of bullshit.

>>369977343
>still having the fucking dromes
>still having gravios when it has the bog standard retarded wyvern moveset from gen 2 still
Capcom is retarded.

>>369974304
Not buying a Switch, period.

Not going to buy another underpowered console that Nintendo will just nix in 5 years to release another to compete with Sony and Microsoft.

>>369977697
Congrats for just going
>IT'S OKAY BECAUSE IT'S OKAY REEEE

>>369975685

>where most of the fun is playing online with randoms

t. carried shitter

>>369977760
Keep deviants and Apex but remove the LV1-10 system for the love of god.

The Switch has nogaems

>>369977818
I can't even call it laziness, in 4U they could have copypasted gen 3 monsters instead but decided not too, just retardation

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>G rank room
>GS user doesn't have crit draw

everytime, kicked and blocked. You should know by G rank that crit draw is a requirement for GS

>>369977885
Yes because I love being given a time window when it's okay to hit a monster that's otherwise invincible. I'm okay with Frenzied monsters, but I'd rather not see Apex return.

>>369977921
98

>>369978043
>hh player joins
>no maestro

>>369977885
Apex is a shitty mechanic

in multiplayer they get raped due to constantly being staggered from Apex canceling and in single player, you can't get them down with one use of the stone so you run around like a retard until it finishes cooling down

>>369978227
>you can't get them down with one use of the stone so you run around like a retard until it finishes cooling down
I seriously hope you don't do this.

>>369978220
they're kicked too, same with no focus Bow

>>369977760
>bullets sponges
>a nice break from fighting recolor 47 with slightly different moves.

>>369978320
it's true, worst part is that piece of shit ability mind eye's doesn't even work, which it should have because it would give it purpose

Haven't bought a monster hunter since MHFU and Tri

Call me when they remove QTEs, monster climbing, retarded special moves and "styles"

And the PSP games still look better than the 3DS, which has a 200x100 resolution.

>>369978043
>Don't have Crit Draw on GS
>Do far better than people who have Crit Draw but can't play GS worth shit

I would not shed a single tear if Crit Draw vanished.
Boring skill for a boring way to play.

>>369978461
why don't you do both you stupid retard?

>boring way to play

it works off the fundamentals of GS regardless of how you play, having to constantly sheathe and close distance.

If you don't do this, I really hope you don't think you do "far better" than anyone

>>369978407
>it's true
No, not it's not. Because even when you're bouncing you're still doing damage not to mention you can use your second Wystone to knock it out of Apex and pound it's face in.

MH is a dead series, the best games have already been made, it's bloated with way too many dumb mechanics now. And the 3DS looks like shit and has shit controls.

>>369978652
the bouncing shit is retarded, I still attack them for DPS but it's fleeting hits only

>other wystone

still bounce off like a retard with most hits

I've been trying out the switch axe since i never really bothered with it before, I just don't understand the point of axe mode. You do get that infinite chop with it, but it seems sword mode does more damage overall. Should I just not bother with the axe part or what?

>>369978779
>you can use your second Wystone to knock it out of Apex and pound it's face in.
Honestly if it's taking you that long to do this then you're doing something wrong.

>>369978779
Right, so how about you stick with the MHX series and enjoy your casual MH while real players enjoy apex.

>w-wah i can't hit things with no risk and kill them

>>369978612
What I mean by boring way to play is unsheathe charge into sheathe, and doing nothing else. Which for Crit Draw is the "optimal" way to play.
I'm not endorsing walking around unsheathed or anything, that's just dumb. But boiling an entire moveset down to a single attack is dull in my opinion, even if it does the most damage.

I do quite respect those speed hunts with Crit Draw, but the average person running around in a cookie cutter GS set isn't going to be anywhere near that level of good at least from my experience. Someone who enjoys a weapon in a non-optimal style but plays it well is far better than someone who follows a guide and brags about damage.

>>369978845
the reach is nice
sword mode is for mindless DPS, axe mode is for breaks

>>369978779
You know apex monsters have unprotected spots right

When I do the master's test I don't use wystones at all on seregios, and usually I don't need them for diablos either

I want to get back into the series, but I only have the 2ds. I dont want to buy a new system. Can I play with relative ease

>>369978945
Lets be honest, if Crit Draw didn't exist they would just flock to the next cookie cutter set and nothing will change.

>>369978945
obviously you don't just do the fucking sheath attack you do the full combo, you are still sacrificing a lot of DPS by not having crit draw

>cookie cutter GS set

it doesn't have to be cookie cutter, just anything with crit draw. The skill is made for GS, like maestro with hunting horn. There is 0 reason to not have it

>>369979113
True enough.
The quest to get people to think for themselves is long and hard.

>>369975782
Capcom wants to squeeze every single cent out of the 3DS.

We might get an announcement at E3, but who knows. We might have to wait until it comes here before we even get anything relating to Switch.

Brave and adept are ezmode for shitters and babies. Anyone who uses them should be ashamed.

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>>369974304

I've grown tired of playing MonHun on Nintendo consoles, as it's literally the only game I play on them. I think it might be time to hang up MonHun until a western PC release or something. I'm not buying a Switch just for one game.

>>369979352
Good for you?
Do you think anyone particularly cares?

>>369978945
>But boiling an entire moveset down to a single attack is dull in my opinion
That is a massive oversimplification

You still have to deal with
>defensive timings of knowing when and how to avoid damage
>knowing which parts to hit
>knowing which part of the sword to hit with
>timing of charges
>knowing stagger limits
>general positioning

Which all together makes the difference between a newb with a GS and a pro with a GS absolutely massive. Yes GS is its most effective using the sheath draw attack, but its not just about shealthing > unsheathing over and over. If it was then literally everyone on earth could play and win with GS at MH and if you look at how shit the average person is you'll realize the stuff I mentioned above make up 90% of most weapons and add the depth the otherwise simplistic movesets dont offer.

Plus doing anything different would be shit, I dont want no street fighter combos in my MH and neither do you.

I take it CEMU still doesn't work for monster hunter right? That'd be sweet. There's always P3rd I suppose

>>369979430

I care and that's all that matters in the end really.

>>369979732
CEMU only slightly works for select games right now, MH is not one of them

I think zelda is top priority at this moment

>>369979781
Then go where people care.

>>369979450
Crit Draw made the block from sheath -> kick roll double charge technique futile.

>>369979876
this technique is shit regardless of crit draw

>>369979352
The Switch has BotW and Spla2n so that's 3 with monhn. Well worth the purchase.

>>369979876
>block from sheath -> kick roll double charge technique futile
Thats a shit technique anyway

>>369980070
He has shit taste dude.

>>369979831
I guess zelda would be nice too. I'd rather monster hunter but oh well, one day

>>369979876
if you're the guy who said you "play better" than other GS users but don't use crit draw, kill yourself

doubt you even got to G rank

Literally me. I thought MH for Ps3 would be a thing. Been stuck on PC since.

What the fuck, Capcom?

>>369980181
m8 just get a fucking 3ds and hack it, I know if you can afford a PC that runs CEMU you can afford a 3ds

>>369979984
>>369980115
>>369980217

There are openings where this is the only attack, top L10 Dinovaldo Striker GS clears abused this a lot to get through double tail swing.

It's a shit technique when Crit GS comes to play, but a great technique to learn when it isn't.

Crit GS makes GS so boring to play.

>>369980287
I have a 3ds and all the monster hunters. I would like to play on a big screen with decent resolution. I could get a Wii U, but now that it's pretty much dead, eh

>>369980385
>but now that it's pretty much dead
Still has a decent online community actually but it would be better to wait for a switch monhun.

>>369980276
they wont even release MHO overseas.

>>369980217
Nah, that's not me.

I consider people who say Crit Draw is required the same as people who gush over Adrenaline and say it's the the only way to play.
Both of them rely far too much on the skill and when push comes to shove they'll fuck up since they don't know the weapon itself, just the skill.

You can use Crit Draw all you like, others can not use it all they like. What matters most is if they play well, not their skill set.

dw i'm with you.

gs is definitely the baby weapon. the only time it's even remotely interesting is when doing "trick" charges. catching tigrexes running across the map.

no sane human would downslice for 1000 hours.

t. headlocking lancer

>>369980554
Adrenaline provides a risk and reward, crit draw only provides a reward and it's by far the best skill on GS. Ergo, no reason not to use it

>>369980554
Adrenaline/Heroics is absolutely mandatory for top level play, but I won't require it in random groups or in 4 man groups because monster AI in groups is random you have no way to predict when a monster can randomly 180 and kill you.

But for solo play, heroics is required imo, it's more fun.

>>369980554
>when push comes to shove they'll fuck up since they don't know the weapon itself, just the skill
>a skill that does nothing but require you to be low health
what did he fucking mean by this

>>369980587
Lance is even more braindead than GS, at least with GS you need proper positioning

>>369974304
Why would you want to play a shitty single player mmo?

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>>369980802

>>369980773
demonstrably false

Bow is best weapon, I view anyone who wields any other weapon as a lesser being.

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>>369974304
Yep, that's me

I would say a new Pokemon would have do the trick but after SM I fear for the direction that the series took and I know it won't get any better

>>369979876
Roll into slap made it futile

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>>369974480
>FOV

Actually, it's just the HUD.

>>369980726
Top level play, sure.
But top level play and playing well are easily different things.
I've seen far too many players who prioritize the former before the latter and end up doing well when everything goes to plan but the slightest change or fuck up will have them dying left and right.

I guess for me it just ends up that I give a rat's ass about hunting times as long as they aren't 20+ minutes. So my priorities in playing well are much more about a "clean" hunt with breaks, no deaths, and simply playing to the best of your ability. A single fast hunt is worthless to me if there were 2 triple carts before.

>>369981064
>After SM
>Not after XY
You've already been warned anon.

>>369981027
>love LGBT
>pressing the aim button makes your character face where the camera is facing
>go use bow
>pressing the aim button makes your camera flip to where the hunter is looking

That messed me up after so much gunning. There's probably an option to change that too and i didn't bother to check

>>369981125
You can't roll -> slap from sheath, you have to Guard from Sheath -> Roll -> Slap -> Double Charge.

>>369981027
You mean there's only one good bow to craft making all the other bows pointless?

How is Tri on the Wii U?

>>369981335
Most non-elemental weapons are like that though, what's the issue?

>>369974304
same here. Switch seems like the perf MH console

but i wont buy it until there's an updated version of the switch, idk based on the reviews it has way too many hardware problems to buy the first wave. Reminds me of the fat DS- obviously a proto-version of the eventual vastly superior revision

>>369980937
No it's not, now that SnS has oil management lance is the easiest weapon to use by far

>>369981271
Actually i enjoyed XY alot, it was the first 3D game and Kalos was an interesting region, it introduced the godly egg mechanics and super training and hordes sadly it got shafted in favor of SM.

I know I'm the only person in the whole world that thinks this but when they announced that they would get rid of HM this game would suck... and I wasn't mistaken.

>>369981524
I main GS. GS is the easiest weapon of the series. Sorry lad, get off your high horse. This weapon is ez-mode.

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>>369979085

I hate MHX. I want to go back to mainline.
Styles, Arts and Prowler need to go.

>>369981371
MH3U overhauls the multiplayer questline up to G-Rank and expands Moga to high rank, on top of returning weapons and some subspecies from P3rd with a couple of more thrown in like Brachydios.

With the Switch released, who knows how long the server will last though.

>>369981850
Whay do you hate styles? if you hate them so much just go guild and don't use any art is not like they forece the use of ceirtain styles.

>>369980276
MH PS3 was going to be a thing. It's called Tri and they shifted development to the Wii instead.

>>369981963
Because they dumb the game down and they're boring. But unfortunately most styles are more efficient at killing monsters than guild style so if I want fast clears I'm forced to go said style.

>>369977863
>I can't not get hit in a video game
Easy to dodge insta-kills are E Z P Z

give me your honest thoughts on sword and shield

>>369982052
You're using optional mechanics you don't enjoy in order to minmax. That reasoning is nonsense.

>>369981614
No you don't you already said you use lance, everyone knows easiest are lance and sns

>>369982052
Listen what are you saying, you are not forcet to anything you are doing it for personal preference, Yes ceirtain styles breaks the game (adept I'm looking at you), but fucking nobody forces you to use them just go guild and you will have "the true MH experience" if that botters you so much.

>>369981614
post your hunter card

inb4 silence

>>369980587
>lancer calling any other weapon baby mode

lol

>>369982360
God, How I hate fucking GS and Lance users, they are the most obnoxious faggots on hte face of earth.

new gunner weapon

when
h
e
n

If the next gen is all new bladeshitter weapons again this is getting pretty bullshit capcom

>>369982506
that's not hammerfags, was hilarious seeing hammerfags seething with rage when CB outclassed it

>>369982515
What would be a good new gunner weapon? people already bitch about HBG being broken just imagine something new that tends to be broken on the first game.

>>369982560
I knew it was hammerfags that hated CB.

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>>369982515
Boomerang when?

>>369981614
The easiest weapon to use is the switch axe though, especially since gen firmly solidified using it as a reload sword and forgoing axe mode entirely

>>369982515
>>369982659
mini canon or javelin? I don't know. HBG should get a nerf though don't know why it hasn't it's been the best since forever (except in 4). It is a high skill ceiling though so I don't mind it being on top unlike the bug stick

>>369982801
What the fuck are you saying? Gen nerfed CB like fucking hard, the only thing that CB has now is the range on axe mode.

>>369982659
I dunno. Maybe a pistol in one hand, and throwing bombs with the other one. I don't have much imagination, i love all the gunner weapons though and would like to see a new one

>>369982805
>mini canon
Isn't that LBG

>javelin
a throwing weapon wouldn't have a chance in hell to work, maybe the boomerang because it retursn but not a Javelin

>>369982957
>MH tards in charge of reading

>>369983117
>Isn't that LBG

I was thinking something in between LBG/HBG mobility with more emphasis on impact damage and slower fire rate

>a throwing weapon wouldn't have a chance in hell to work, maybe the boomerang because it retursn but not a Javelin

infinite javelins like infinite arrows

>>369982957
Anon are you sure you read that one right

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>>369974480
>>369974953
>>369975205
>>369976964
>reduced FoV

>>369974304
Buying a console for MH isn't worth it anymore.

I regret getting a WiiU and then a 3DS to this day.
3U was just a rehash, 4U was mediocre and Gen is downright disappointing.

>>369982659
>I knew it was hammerfags that hated CB.

Both Hammerbros and Swithcbros hated the CB in 4U. It does what they do better.

>>369983490
switch (alongside LS) were invalidated by insect glaive not CB

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KO aside, there is some wonder to bringing out the Power of the Phials™
I wouldn't mind if they dropped the KO from Impact Phial and expanded more on phial power for both types.

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>>369976142
>Thought its face looked like a mishmash of Glavenus and Agnaktor
>The body shape is actually different.
Disappointing, I was hoping it would be a reverse Glavenus where it uses its tail to sharpen its blade-horn.

>>369974304
I can't describe how assblasted i was when i found out that there exists a monster hunter on PS4 but the capcom jews are only releasing it in japan like they do with most games i want.

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>>369982271
>>369981614
called it, anti-GSfags are always pathetic liars

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>>369978845
7 years ago, axe mode was your backup offense until you can reload your sword.

>>369975685
Styles add tons of variety to the game. Anything said to the contrary is just you admitting to being a casual limp-dicked cuck. Also, you can just use guild style if you don't like any of the new stuff.

Also, if you're having a bad time playing with pubbies online, then...and here's the real trick anon.....DO NOT PLAY WITH PUBBIES.

If you play with pubbies you DESERVE to have a bad time for doing something so fucking retarded. If you play with pubbies YOU DESERVE to get tripped, to cart and to waste all your time. If you play with pubbies it's YOUR FAULT YOU AREN'T HAVING FUN.

Fuck you. Styles are great. If you can't adept you have a tiny dick.

>>369985752
I like the look of it but I have to wonder how effective this actually is compared to sword mode spam with demon riot+energy charge

>>369974304
I'll buy a Switch when they announce MH and Pokemon for it, not before then.

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is adept GS still useless in XX?

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W E W
E
W

>>369986430
What do the frrontier AoE spamming shit monsters add? I can't avoid them at end game like choosing guild and no arts to avoid ezbabymode.

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>>369977071
>Vita

>>369974705
>hunter arts
>optional
Do you like taking 45 minutes to kill hyper monsters? Because they were designed with the sole purpose of spamming hunter arts.

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rate my GS set /v/:

Weakness Exploit
Crit Eye +1
Critical Boost
Focus

523 defense 95% crit chance if I hit weak points, which is almost all I aim for.

>>369989521
>no crit draw

trash

>>369989593
>not hitting weak points for near guaranteed crits

>>369989672
aiming for something is different than actually hitting it, especially with GS

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>stuck with Dragon Phial till the end of time
>only got Power Phial in Frontier
IT'S NOT FAIR

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Why can't monster hunter come back to PlayStation? I want a PS4 Monster Hunter so bad

>>369990589
because MH is always on the highest selling console, DS not included because it wasn't powerful enough

Pllaning on playing Monster Hunter Tri on Dolphin emulator
Is it possible to enjoy and do everything the game has to offer solo ?

>>369989593
crit draw is nowhere near as dominant as it was in older mh games

if you look at the gs records on tawiki, crit draw sets don't even constitute the majority of gs sets used, it ties with two other sets - dreadking and the generic crit boost set trading out razor sharp for focus

>>369974480
Hunter arts and styles are here to stay in one form or another, not even the OG experience of Frontier doesn't have them anymore.

Its time to turn down the autism and accept they just flat-out make the game more fun to play.

Heat Gauge for GL needs to fuck off though.

>>369989521
pretty generic dark of night set as far as skils go, but looks nice i guess

Styles can go but their moves and combos can stay though(except for Longsword's cheesy *parries ur attack*)

>>369991590
Brave LS gets free GP outta the ass on the R attack.

>>369988006
Not him, but superman dive is still a thing, you know. I did end game DLC quests using guild style, evasion+1 and superman dive with no problem.

>>369991107
Shhh, let the 4u and tri babies continue to spout misinformation. Anons tried posting earlier but GS babies still keep posting >muh crit draw

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>>369978945
You don't see good crit draw GS users because they're busy soloing. That is the patrician way to play it due to controlled aggro. Though generations favours combo/kick into strong charge since openings are huge and the damage is insane. Anyone who is using greatsword online is literal casual scrub tier. GS is one of if not the easiest weapons to do damage online because of the huge ass openings and huge burst damage it can do. Anyone who plays with GS online and thinks they're good at it should kill themselves.

>>369991590
>Longsword's cheesy *parries ur attack*
That's hunter art, not style.

>>369991693
At least the GP consumes spirit meter, AND you have to be in brave mode for that. It's still restrictive compared to, let's say, GL's new GP.

>>369992105
As of MHX
Switch Axe is the easiest weapon in MH.
Then GS.

>>369980115
KYS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bMVDu0HajY
Though I will say Crit draw is love. Crit draw is life.

>>369992327
>tfw main both
I-i'm making the deviant tigrex set

>>369992327
>SA

lance is easier, lance has always been the easiest

>GS

lance/SA/SnS/LBG are easier

>>369992412
>tfw watching mhx gameplay still makes me feel nauseous

its the only reason i had to stop playing, despite having 800 hours in 4u

>>369992568
SA is one button in MHX, maybe you should play the game before you speak?

Hammer and GS has always had the lowest skill ceilings in MH.

>>369992327
>>369992568
>forgetting about adept duals

>>369992568
>lance has always been the easiest
Wut? The fact that lance has backhop instead of forward roll alone turns off most of newbies hunters.

>>369992568

I'd argue that LBG is easy to survive with, but actually doing damage requires at least a bit of knowledge. Still pretty easy, but maybe not lance/SA easy.

>>369992661
Lance is one button as well except you also have the best shield in the game if you fuck up your positioning

>hammer and GS lowest skill ceilings

hammer isn't very high, but GS requires you to leave yourself open to being attacked while stationary making it have one of the highest ceilings since you need to know all monster's attack patterns, the skill floor is low though

lowest skill ceilings are the ones I posted minus SnS because SnS ceiling requires laying down traps/bombs mid combo

>>369974304
pretty much

>>369992698
are we going to ignore the shield or what?

newbie hunters shield, they don't dodge

>>369992771
yeah maybe I should change that with Bow, all you really need to know with bow is critical range

>>369992697
>factoring styles

>>369989693
>shitter who can't into positioning
>probably plays GS online

>>369993026
GS is all about positioning, what are you talking about?

>>369993018
are you literally retarded?

>>369993061
What are YOU talking about? I'm talking about the shitter who is complaining about GS being hard to hit with.

>>369993093
Oh golly gee lets factor in styles

Ez mode is all adept styles followed by aerial styles followed by striker and guild

wow man so glad we factored it in

>>369974705
I have no problem with the idea of styles, but anyone who would ever defend Adept in any capacity just needs to find a new fucking series to play.

When I play lance in mh gen I use adept lance + narga deviant set. I'm sorry but it just feels way to good and relaxing when you have this long backhop to travel and evade through shit and adept whenever you feel like it. Though I will say adept guard is a way better mechanic than adept evading. Since you at least get punished with a long ass block and the timing is stricter. Still piss easy though.

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Meowstress is an old hag!

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>>369987523
You can charge the upswing now. It's useable.

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>>369992327
Switch axe has always been the easiest weapon to use since its introduction. The few moves that have been added since Tri are either impractical and useless or just plain worse than spamming vertical slashes in sword mode, so its core gameplay has been almost unchanged for five fucking games. All generations did was reinforce that style of play even further with extremely synergistic hunter arts.

>>369993295
not really

adept gs is much harder to use effectively than striker or guild

but continue to be retarded and assume ease of use is tied solely to styles as if they were virtually identical across weapon types

Most difficult blademaster weapon is charge blade. Most difficult gunner weapon is bow. This is assuming solo end game g special rank.

>CB is CB
>Bow punishes really hard for not aiming good

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MonHun live action in the making.

>>369993868
>most difficult gunner weapon to master is bow

lol wut, bow is my favorite ranged but this is not true, hardest is HBG. All you have to do with bow is get into critical range

>>369993632

They really need to stop being retarded and make the sword gauge only go up when you hit with the axe. Why does reload even exist when the mechanics of the weapon clearly demonstrate that they know sword mode is superior? And why have they refused to fix elemental burst? Obviously they know it's a problem, because one if brave's benefits is a usable version.

>>369993462

I've been saying that adept needs major nerfs since the demo for X. I still prefer having styles to not though.

>>369993732
Just because it doesn't do as much damage as the other styles doesn't make it harder to play. We're not talking about what is better or worst, we're talking about ease of play. Having a innate evasion +3 makes any adept build save Lance and Gunlance the easiest style.

>>369994332

> Having a innate evasion +3

Adept dodge is superior to evasion +3, which is the problem.

>>369994332
>adept GS
So you decided to give up two hunter arts, one of them being an evade art for a shitty ass dodge run that probaly throws you way off and atrocious evade attack. No thanks would rather keep two evade arts with striker or guild.

>>369994702
You're still on the same mindset that we're discussing weaker and not ease of play.

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Who /waitingforswitchport/ here?

>>369994102
That would just make it another build and dump weapon, and the charge blade already does the morphing thing too

I think what it needs is some sort of mechanic where the modes either play off of and enhance each other, or that encourages keeping a balance of sword and axe attacks to maintain maximum strength

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>>369993870
>ハチミツ intensifies

>>369994798
Pretty sure hitting absolute evade/readinees on the touch screen is as easy as it gets. Combine that with striker and a deviant weapon? Throw in hyper monsters and hyper juice? Pretty sure striker wins the deal.

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>>369993628
>People in the background suddenly teleport back a few frames
>Crab gets slightly lower quality before she eats it
>Weebs eat this shit up

>>369994835

>That would just make it another build and dump weapon

Would still be better than what we have now.

>or that encourages keeping a balance of sword and axe attacks to maintain maximum strength

Maybe make it so the phial applies to both modes, hitting with one mode powers up the phial for the other.

I'm just tired of rath variants

I'm tired of Raths in general. Only shit like Jaggis and Dromes are more boring to fight than Raths.

>>369994835
Morph multiplier that builds up like Repeated Offender but for morph attacks.

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>Got my start with the series with 4U in January this year
>Look at Gen
>Looks like a completely different game with all the styles/arts stuff

>>369995292
Variants were a mistake.

WELCOME TO END GAME
FARM THIS MONSTER 30 TIMES TO GET TO L10
FARM THIS MONSTER 300 TIMES TO GET ALL THE PARTS NEEDED FOR L10 ARMOR/WEAPON

ALSO BTW DO ALL MISSIONS FOR FEATHER LOL


vs mh4u

ayyy kill any gq140 you want for a relic weapon, do you famalam

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>>369995292
I'll nerf your favorite weapon, gaijin

>>369994332
on the contrary, adept guard is easier to play than adept evade because it can defend against consecutive attacks and you don't get punished as much for whiffing because you'll simply block normally

unless you're playing adept duals, the adept evade is not the same as evasion +3 since you are vulnerable to follow up attacks. for example, adept evading zinogre's paw slam or horn attack or thunderlord zinogre's somersaults will get you hit. adept evading silverwind narga's first tail attacks in rage mode will get you hit by its follow up tail attacks. adept evading shagaru's initial claw slams or his aerial charge leaves you vulnerable to its follow up attacks. and so on

adept evade is not strictly superior to evade+3 since it is actually a bigger commitment than evade+3 if it actually works

>>369995292
Fuck rathalos in particular. That shit teaches nothing. At least with rathian you learn sound cues like her tail flip and how to target weakspots to chain flinches. Rathalos? Teaches absolute shit except how to abuse flash bombs or pray you hit him out of the sky. Not only that but silver eventually goes full cancer apache mode and azure is their way of making rathalos ai even worse.

>>369995478
>any 140
It was limited to Rajang/Teostra/Shagaru/Chameleos/Jho if you actually wanted good drops. Still better, though.

>>369995630
Other monsters dropped decent one, it's just Rajang was the only one worth farming because they had double relic chances, and you had 2x Rajang quests.

I farmed my GS from garuga

>>369995597
even the japs don't like fighting rathalos, that's how garbage of a monster he is

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At what point does it start being incredibly unfair to almost impossible to solo in 4U?
I'm Caravan 10/HR5.

>>369995428
Yeah it is. Don't get it unless you want something to satiate your MH addiction and give you withdrawl symptoms instead. Get MH3U if you have a wii u or solo MH3U on the 3ds if you want more instead.

>>369995713
>using any GS other than black fatalis blade in MH4U

>>369995597
Rathalos used to teach one particular technique back in the days of yore in FU, and that was timing GS Charges/Hammer Golfswings.

Too bad that went out of the window in Tri, just like Hammer's KOing power.

>>369995840
G3+
>>369995891
>not using a sleep GS

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>>369995478
>gen shitposting has gotten so severe that people are pretending GQs were a good thing

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>>369995921
>sleep bombing in MH post MHtri

this nigga cray

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>>369995428
Gen is not so different. The arts are just a few situational additions to what you have by default, and the styles modify the movesets and the dodge.

4U is a better game to start the series with than Gen. Probably a better game overall, too.

>>369982659
Dual pistols with semi-similar dual-blade mechanics.

>>369995840
Fire Drill in G2 will stick it in dry, but it's otherwise not too bad if you keep your weapons up to date

>>369995913
zinogre teaches that very well though. funny how a third gen monster makes up for the 'improvements' to the first gen ones

>>369995953
its not fair because 4u was an ultimate version, but MHX is terrible

expeditions offered more variety in endgame than mhx hunt the same monster 300 times for bis gear as soon as you clear guild 7 or w/e it was

>>369974304

I dunno, after Generations I'm getting kinda sick of the same damn game every time with only minor changes. Hopefully they learn from BotW's example.

>>369995953
They were stimulating for charm chasing at least.
If you're good enough, you don't even need to reset the GQ for treasure rooms, just grab them from the reward screen.

>>369995840
Fire Drill will make you look at Sticky Situation in a more favorable light, and even Black Phalanx

I really loved 4u, but man apex was just obnoxious. I have yet to try gen, but I dont know if I will.

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>>369974304
>Someone with a functioning brain makes it to Nintendo's upper management
>Greenlights a new Monster Hunter, Pokemon and Smash

There, I fixed the Switch

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>>369995819
>generations
>rathalos armor sets for all ranks and even the ex version is insanely good
>all of them have atk up and weakness exploit
>every other armor set is gimmicky or just plain shit
I hate this fuck face so fucking much. It's an easy fight but it's absolutely no fun.
>Deviant fuck face rathalos
>Has pretty much one of if the not the best deviant sets
>It's the best rathalos killing set
>Have to kill deviant fuck face to get it
Just fuck my shit up famalan.

Stevegios is a way better fight than rathafuckface even though they made him sorta less tripable but it's still pretty good.

>>369996526
>nintendo responsible for MH

retard

>>369996602
You know what I mean.

>>369996684
No, I don't know what you meant. Why don't you clarify

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>>369996563
I cant wait for Steve to become huge again in G-Rank, I'm tired of fighting manlets in high rank.

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Not a related topic, but it kinda pisses me off how frozen seaway's theme was limited to two monsters. Other monsters that showed up there had their own them or no theme at all.

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>200 hours into MH4U
>Still feel like a huge noob
>Can barely get down timing for dodging

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>>369997027
Watch as they give Barioth the Tundra theme in the Frozen Seaways

>>369996842
>Apex Steve
>Very tolerable Aprx
>Huge as fuck
>Screen is literally just his fucking scales on his back as you fight him
>Him being huge as fuck and all these apex effects lagg the shit up my o3ds
Yet it was an amazing fight.

>>369996842
unless they bring back apex, i don't think steve is going to be very much bigger in g rank

>>369995551
>adept guard is easier to play
Except the fact that it has tighter window than adept dodge, leaving you animation locked with chip damage and low stamina, and also not being invulnerable to environmental damage (lava, shagaru mines) like adept evades?

>>369981475
Same

You and I are smart anons

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>>369995137
>he cant teleport back a few frames

Rubbing elbows with the plebeians is amusing.

>>369974304
4U is the last MH I'll be playing if 5 isn't radically different from Gen and how XX will be. There's nothing for me in the series anymore, so I guess I'll just play FU-4U forever.

>>369997027
The frozen seaway theme is effectively zimzam's theme, his HH even plays a snippet of it

Aren't most of the area themes assigned to specific monsters in the soundtracks anyway?

>>369996079
Why are you comparing expedition with deviants, tho? There is no parallel of expedition in X, so it can't really be compared. Deviants are more like GQ, killing the same monster over and over again to get the equipment you desire. Except deviant quests are much more forgiving in RNG than relics.

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>>369997370
You could make that argument, I guess.
Have some soft Barioths.

>>369975205
>MHX's change to the FPS, Textures and FoV made me nauseous playing that game.
wow, it's like you don't even realize that you're ok with playing a game on the shittiest fucking low-res screen ever

Why is Rathalos so unfun to fight
Why can he wind press and then launch a fireball at you almost instantly
Why can he teleport across the area to swipe at you with his poison claws

>>369997260
yes, so whiffing adept guard is much less punishing than adept evade where you would simply eat the attack. as for mines, i wouldn't know, as i have never seen them directly spawn under you in gen and consequently have never had the need to adept evade or dodge them

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What are the best Seregios weapons in 4U?
GS aside.

>>369998191
If it's a singular attack, sure. But adept guard needs to guard consecutive attacks (shagaru's breath explosions, for instance) successfully each time, failing to do so leaves you with regular guard that will break with enough damage. Meanwhile adept evade can just dodge the first hit and get away with other attacks scots free.

>>369998716
Bow by far.

>>369998716
bow is the best bow in the game

>>369998798
>>369998890
I don't use ranged weapons at all, what's so great about it? Good damage or something?

>>369998913
High raw, affinity, rapid lvl5, power shot. Needs Load Up though.

>>369998758
but the adept evade fails against consecutive attacks than don't come out so rapidly, and fails harder than the adept guard at that. attacks like sw narga's tail attacks, shagaru's claw slams, basically any attack chain that is specifically designed to beat adept evades that aren't adept dbs. you're comparing a situation where adept evade works vs a situation where adept guard doesn't work. if you fail the adept evade, you're going to be punished much harder than the adept guard. you don't take much chip damage even if you only successfully guarded some attacks and whiffed the follow up ones. you don't need a 100% success rate unlike adept evade

it's a simple enough task to figure out which one is the easier to use ultimately. just look at what the consequences are for failing an evade or guard and the consequences for successfully performing an evade or guard. in both scenarios, the guard is much safer than the evade

I wanna go back to 4U and use my SnS bombing set again. Shit was fun.

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CHANGE THE FUCKING A COMBO TO THE X COMBO ON THE FUCKING SWITCH AXE AS IT WAS IN MH4 FOR FUCKS SAKE!

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We could have Gobul back if he had a little girl to promote him in a spinoff nobody cares. Like a big-tittied meganekko as a companion, for example.

After all, Barioth returned to relevancy because he got lucky with a blonde little girl.

>>369999343
>against consecutive attacks than don't come out so rapidly
That's just depends on the direction you ran into. SW's tail slash, for instance. You can dodge it easily if you ran perpendicular towards the narga.

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>4U
>Rathalos Gem farming

>>369998716
I'd argue the SA is the best one you can craft overall, its self sharpening gimmick is perfect for SA playstyle, and it'll stay purple forever practically with Razor Sharp.

The Gunlance is also best in class, huge natural purple. HH is also great but it's rivaled by other weapons.

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>>369998716
Furia Sedition is part Lao Autocannon, part Evilwind Darkcannon melded together.

>>369977337
oh man you would not like the mmo

it's 200% bullshit

>>369999802
not sure if we're talking about the same thing. i'm talking about talking about his tailslam combo. if you dodge towards narga, adept dodging the initial tailslam, you're just going to eat the follow up tailslam or tailspin

>>370000883
>if you dodge towards narga
That's why you don't. Dodge perpendicular towards it.

>>370000961
you're still going to eat the tailspin. you might dodge it if he does a second tailslam since it has rather poor tracking, but you have no idea if he's going to follow up with a tailspin or a tailslam

>>370001063
Geez. I dodge it all the time. You don't even need to adept dodge it, just run to the side.

>>370001086
yes, but we're talking about if you adept dodge the initial tailslam, aren't we? saying you can sidestep initial attacks so you can adept the follow up attacks doesn't say anything about adept dodge's or guard's capability to block these sort of attack chains

>>369991125
>Heat Gauge for GL needs to fuck off though.
Heat gauche is fine as long as it gives a noticeablke buff and no debuffs

>>370001818
You know, I think you're just bad. Try to watch SW speedrun and see for yourself how you dodge it.

>>370001929
>Gauche
Hi/Salut!

>>370001987
i don't think you even understood my post. try reading it again

>>370002021
Hallo!
If it's any excuse, I just woke up

>>370002314
Oui Oui, I see
Want some monte?

>>370002352
>want some monte
Is this the monster hunter equivalent of ay bby wan sum fuk?

>>369976142
That game looks terrible

>>370002145
You clearly don't. It all comes to how the player position himself after dodging. If you're being shit and be all LEEROY JENKINS and rush to attack instead of waiting then you deserve to be punished by the next attack.

Is 4U still active or did everyone move on from it?

>>370003769
I have no problems setting up full 4-man 140 GQ rooms with randoms if that's what you mean anon.

>>370003769
Im still playing it, but not online because of my weapon of choice.

>>370004153
Unfortunately, I'm at the bottom of the barrel. IIRC, around the online rank of 6 or 7, beat the main story, and still on the first tier of missions post-story.

>>370003490
>talking about how you gotta be not shit
>in an argument about what's the most ez mode
you've lost the entire point of the argument

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What would you wish for senpais? I liked this commercial but I hated X and probably will skip XX
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVGB7NJFctA

>>369974480
>GS
>getting a nerf
hah

>>370005592
>Literally named Double Cross
I just want a Monster Hunter game, not this garbage.

Give me updated underwater mechanics and the newer climbing mechanics from 4/4U. Some decent new monsters would be nice and put it on a proper platform.

After reading this thread, I've come to the conclusion nintenbros are fucking deluded. And I say this whitaking a quick break from playing Breath of the Wild

>>369980070
monhun alone is worth the purchase of a console, unless you're not into monhun

I'd much rather have the game be on PC of course, but unfortunately that's not how things work

>people actually saying GS is not ultimate easy mode

What is this stupidity?

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>MH Switch
>Wanting the *bing bing wahoo* screen glitching to happen mid-hunts

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>tfw no mhxx on vita

>>369982805
>>369982659
How about instead of nerfing weapons, we buff weapons. All nerfing does is make people drop whole weapon types unless they're severely committed.

Nice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHoHsy0c300

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What will follow up from Sony making the MH Hollywood movie for at least 4 sequels?

>>369974480
And some new maps for gods sake. All the 1st and 2nd Gen maps in MHX were fucking annoying. They didn't have many ledges or elevation changes in each area like 4 did, and I think I know why they didn't bother, because they want you to use Aerial Style to get mounts.

The verticality in MH4 maps was fucking amazing.

>>370008818
bad critics, fandom rage and lots of money in CAPCOM's pocket

>>370008938
Capcom would just get royalty money actually. Sony makes all the profits like the RE movies.

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I want a monster hunter game with more of these guys. I don't care about game play what weapons are in it as long as i get at least one of these in every map.

>>370006902
People finally saw that some weapons even easier. Doesn't make GS hard though.

>>370008818
I just do't get it man

>Hunter didn't make an appearance in MvC because the team didn't want to let others handle the thing
>Then they hand the series to someone else to destroy the lore

should I keep playing mhgenerations or mh4u?
what do you guys play?

generations feels too short and empty

>Nintendo Switch Axe

Can't wait

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>>370009171
Are you stupid? MH is like in every other single entertainment medium. Arcades, pachinko, toys, gashapon, mobile games, trading cards, figures, anime, comics, collabs, etc. You don't cling to one corporate excuse forever, especially when even when that excuse was made, it contradicted a whole bunch of other shit.

>>370009264
I'm still playing 4U

Gens was a mistake

>>370009342
I'm not talking about platform senpai. I'm talking about the IP itself and its lore/world/characters

>Certainly they were on the list and we actually made a proposal to the Monster Hunter team and producer. The answer I believe came back was no.
>They thought it wasn’t a good fit for the game and maybe they’re right. The hunter is sort of a malleable personality, rather than a super strong character in Monster Hunter since he’s so customizable.

For them to be so protective of the IP and then let it get destroyed by Hollywood is weird

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>>370009669
They're lying at the time to suit their situation retard, same fucking shit. These people lie all the fucking time. Monster Hunter belongs to Capcom, not the fucking producer. And there's no "MH team", Capcom rotates their staff all the time.

>>370009171
Rathalos will be in MvC:I according to the first leak that revealed the game and turned out to be true.

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>tfw most recent mh threads are a mixture of movie posting, console war posting, and fuck every game but FU posters

>>370004443
Let's see. How hard is it to evading an attack and run to the side compared to timing 3 consecutive adept blocks again? Yes. You are that retarded.

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>>369980529
seriously they won't? I have a ps3&4 and a wiiU but most all my friends that I talk to normally is on ps4. Should I not expect to get any monster hunter action with friends?

>>370012513
MH primarily releases on handhelds anyway with the odd port to a home console, so don't expect anything at all unless Sony knocks it out of the park with a new handheld game since Nintendo refuses to let their handhelds connect natively to other systems.

>>369974480
I thought they were hinting at monster hunters going open world?

They made the off hand comment last e3 about making it more like the witcher 3, and with BotW doing so well I could see it.

>>369995137
there was a scene that was cut out of the gif, thats why theres what seems to be a stutter in the gif

>>369990589
>>369990790
>because MH is always on the highest selling console, DS not included because it wasn't powerful enough

MH was announced on the 3DS while it was doing poorly. The real reason is because Nintendo went out of their way to cater to Capcom when Sony didn't give them special treatment to port Portable 3rd HD over.

Now, I bet it's because Monhun is a culture over in Japan and putting it on a stationary home console would obliterate the the local social interactivity, the basis for its popularity.