Sayonara... Shadow the Hedgehog...

>dies
>doesn't even shed a tear

what a hard soul

Adios... Shadow za Hejiasgoapsh934gu

I miss when Sonic games knew how to keep it real

>>369627578

To be honest I also miss the more "serious" narratives.

The problem is they went too fucking far with Sonic 06.

They need to find a happy medium.

>>369629063
Honestly i always found the Adventure games to be that medium, they didn't seem geared for kids but didn't take themselves THAT seriosu either, with 06 they went too far on the serious side and Unleashed started going too much on the kid side, though i still enjoy Unleashed's story but from Colors onwards things gets nasty

So...why was Sega too lazy to dub that one line in English?

I know "Sayonara" can be a cool way to say good-bye in Burgerland, but did they really think nobody would notice Sonic suddenly having a completely different voice?

>>369629915
i never saw a problem with it

>>369629915
Art thou baiting? Japanese dub doesn't even say Sayonara

>>369629063
now every story is super mario-tier

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZjSrW4p7r8

Even if my memories aren't real... I'm still me, Shadow... and I will fulfil my promise to Maria. That's the only thing that matters to me now.

>>369630364
SA1 is the better version

>>369629063
Seems a lot of writers mistake drama for edginess.

>>369630317
Makes sense, he always speaks random english in the original.

whoa how long have i been gone?
i thought /v/ still hated this game for no reason

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>>369631082

I think SA1 and SA2 are shitty games, but I love the fuck out of them.

It's an abstract kind of feel.

>>369631082

I do though

>for no reason

the pacing level-wise is trash since unlike 1 you're forced to play the stages you don't like to get back to the ones you do. that alone severely drags the game down a hell of a lot for me and it's a problem (to a far lesser extent admittedly) I have with pretty much every subsequent 3D Sonic game.

>>369631082
I hate it for good reason. I'm just fond of the crazy plot.

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Goodbye forever... Shadow the Hedgehog...

>>369631469
man i can't believe shadow the hedgehog was a robot the whole time

>>369631082
I replayed it recently for the first time since I was a wee lad who loved the game. The mech levels SUCK, the hunting stages were a big step back from the first game, and some of the action stages were not well done - Pyramid Cave is really bad. Those ghosts are hard to avoid and there are a ton of times where you have to kill all momentum. But I still had fun overall when I wasn't annoyed

>>369631897
>Pyramid Cave is really bad
Nigger you and my are gonna tussle.

>>369632038
I just didn't like the ghosts or the switch grabbing and the Gamma robots fired obnoxiously

Some of the design was cool though

>>369631082
>/v/ is one person
>claim people hate the Adventures "for no reason"
All you needed was a comment about Game Grumps and you'd have the holy trinity of "I'm a salty Sonicfag who can't see the flaws in his games" posting

>>369632649
there are reasons to not like this game and i know its not perfect

but the hate it gets on /v/ baffles me
the game has flaws but they make it seem like its the worst game ever

>>369627142
CAN YOU FEEEEEEEEL LIIIIFE

>>369633109
It is pretty bad. It's one of those cases where good direction, art, sound and, yes, writing are wasted on a game flawed at a mechanical level. After all, most people don't know SA2 was rushed out the door while the Dreamcast was grasping for survival.

>>369633109

It can't be the worst game ever though because Sonic Heroes exists.

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>>369627142

Open Your Heart > Live and Learn

>>369629915

It was all the same voice you fucking imbecile. Get your hearing checked.

>>369633461
I Am (All of Me)>Knight of the Wind>His World>Open Your Heart>Live and Learn>Sonic Heroes>Seven Rings in Hand>Endless Possibility

>>369633667
Your list is backwards.

>>369634045
>Ranking Bowling for Soup above anything
Commit Harakiri

>>369634138
I don't know how to play that.

>>369633109
>but the hate it gets on /v/ baffles me
Then you really have been away for longer than you thought. I've seen a lot of thoughts on this game from /v/, mostly ranging from "wow this is fucking cool" to "pretty mediocre gameplay" but very rarely do I see downright hatred for the game.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OGGH1lXoJ8&

Please help me, I can't stop listening to this song.

>>369627578
I'm starting to miss when Sonic wasn't 24/7 "lel meems our games shur did suck huh"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8CoFS0tFBg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCs5SGdfbH0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbAhyOWRCqw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1cMw-q3tKo

One day people will acknowledge Rouge had the best tracks in the game.

>>369634817
It's good that they recognize it though.

>>369634485
I don't think I'll ever be as disappointed in a series as I am in Sonic Riders.

>>369634138
Never fucking reply to me again unless you are contributing to the thread.

>>369634940
>It's good that they recognize it though
No, it's not. Recognizing it doesn't do DICK if they don't do anything to change it.

Plus, self-deprecation gets old fast and generally isn't good. I'd rather have the twitter be full of terrible puns than that shit.

>>369635221
Sonic Mania and Generations 2 sound like genuine attempts to me.

>>369635178
It's my fucking thread, fagnut

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>>369634940

>One day people will acknowledge Rouge had the best tracks in the game.

And that day is today nigga, goddamn I fucking loves her stage music.

SA2 will forever have one of the best OSTs ever made because of the variety of genres.

>>369634940
Acknowledging your fuck-ups means nothing if you don't fix them. Sonic hasn't been too awful recently, but I wouldn't say he's back, either. Also Shadow & Kniggles had better tracks

>>369631638
he wasn't tho

>>369635314
>Sonic Mania
Acknowledging that they don't know how to make good games anymore, so they let the fans make on and take money from liscencing it
>Generations 2
Nostalgia pandering. Also acknowledging that they don't know how to make good games anymore.

>>369627142
>>369631469
>That abstract feel when you realize that it's probably the same room in both
Why didn't anyone just fucking tell Shadow who he was?

>>369635478
>Acknowledging that they don't know how to make good games anymore, so they let the fans make on and take money from liscencing it
Yes? That's what everyone's been screaming at them for about 10 years. Hell, license it to Sumo again while they're at it. I'm sure they could come up with a good 3D formula. There's nothing wrong with seeking inspiration.

>Nostalgia pandering. Also acknowledging that they don't know how to make good games anymore.
That argument never made sense. Generations used old material as backdrop and reference in building level design, that's it. The content itself is more of a vague homage. Besides, from what they've shown, they're not doing old stages again.

>>369635478
>Acknowledging that they don't know how to make good games anymore, so they let the fans make on and take money from liscencing it
Don't know why it matters that it's not Sega making it. A good game is a good game

>>369627142
as a kid I thought Sayonara was Italian or something European
even though I know now, it still doesn't feel appropriate when it's said in the game for some reason

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>>369627142
I never want that kind of melodrama in my blue hedgehog games ever again, good riddance

this kind of drama is fine though

>>369636370

Fuck Chip.

>>369636370
Fuck that, that was the gateway to saturday morning cartoon writing.

>>369636593
And boost shit

>>369636370
who was suppose to be the last one?

>>369636370
>>369636471
>>369636976
oh okay never mind never played sonic unleashed

>>369629063
I thought SA2 and StH especially had retarded stories.
I'm all for a bit more seriousness, but how can you throw in stupid shit like Gerald and the fucking President of the United States and expect anyone to take that shit seriously?

It doesn't help that I have to switch shitty play-styles every five minutes, so the shitty story doesn't help things.

>>369636370
>Blaze trying to eat a burger with a fork and knife

Lel

>>369637572
Are you implying that the scene where the president looks longingly at a photo of him and Sonic wasn't kino?

>>369637572
Gerald was a bit much but what was wrong with throwing the president in? In SA2 at least, the scene with the president was practically comedy, the way it starts out so serious and then goes through a complete tonal shift when Sonic shows up and president is basically going "what the fuck is happening here? What's going on? What the fuck is a Sonic?" while Sonic's theme plays.

>>369637952
WHEN DID THEY TAKE THE PICTURE

>>369638225
It was supposed to be so much more.

https://youtu.be/q8Im0r86dKE?t=43

>>369638279
I mean, Sonic's pretty popular. I
He was probably invited to the president's wedding

>>369638279
After Heroes. You think a giant metal dragon and air fleet goes unnoticed?

>>369638484
>We all did it together!
I fucking hate Tails. He has NEVER been a good character.

So, let's be real here. How many of you wrote Sonic The Hedgehog fanfiction?

>>369635478
>Acknowledging that they don't know how to make good games anymore, so they let the fans make on and take money from liscencing it
bad argument. it shows that they're ok with letting the fans make games they want and keep the franchise alive. seriously, just think of all the dead franchises out there. I'd love for a for a fan made 2d metroid (we did get one, but nintendo shut it down of course), metroid prime, banjo, advance wars, mega man, etc.
The thing is, none of these IP holders care. so for sega to do this is unusual for these big companies.

Post your favorite SA2 songs or their remixes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6jbMdWaeXY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67adGkrvoL4

They literally ruined this moment by bringing Shadow back in the most retarded way possible, only to have one of the worst amnesia character arcs in any work of fiction ever.

He should have stayed fucking dead.

>>369638994
Nah, I was a spritefag back in my darkest Sonic autism days. I'd make custom Genesis and Advance versions of obscure characters like Fang and Bean, and level tiles for my own made-up levels, and post them around on The Mystical Forest Zone

Funnily enough it paid off in the end because I'm a pretty good graphic designer now and that was how I realized I had a passion for it. Crazy old world we live in.

>>369629063
Did you try playing Unleashed or Black Knight, both games made post-06, and written by the exact same guy who penned that game?

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>>369638994
>wrote
none
still daydreamed a lot about it

>>369639359
>Ultimate life form
>Dying

>>369638994
I never really wrote fanfiction, but I had an OC when I was like 10. Had Shadow's head, Knuckles' fists and torso, and Sonic's legs and feet. He was neon green with deep blue accents.

I've read fanfiction though, and if any of you enjoy Tails Gets Trolled, then I urge you to read this: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11261355/1/Sonic-the-Hedgehog-Defender-of-America

>>369639359
Shadows a really cool desgin though
If they turned down the edge and made his game just a sequel to heroes it would have been great

>>369639353
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcXyimsI-ok
Some anon posted this in another thread and I kinda dig it

>>369639586
He was developed to not succumb to age or illness, not to survive a huge fall through the Earth's atmosphere.

>>369639674
He was never really edgy, the edgiest moment was when he "kills" eggman but even then that wasn't shadow but shadow android

>>369639586
I'm pretty sure Project Shadow was only supposed to cover soft immortality - that is, would live indefinitely if not killed/dropped-from-a-height/exploded/drowned and wouldn't be taken out by illness or natural cause.

Shadow not dying after the fall is just a case of Sanic physics. How many times has Sonic himself fallen to earth now with very little consequences? Hell, the Death Egg crash landing should have enough force to wipe out a species or two but we hear nothing of that.

>>369639425
I wanted to become a custom spriter but I wasn't artistic enough.

Now I'm training to become an artist, weirdly enough.

>>369639523
Black Knight was written by the writer behind 06? I call bullshit

>>369639674
But what else was there to do with Shadow after SA2? He had his character arc there, he started out as a misguided bad guy with a foggy past, then he remembered what Maria wanted and sacrificed himself to save the world as an act of redemption.

He was brought back literally because the fans were too autistic to just let him go out as a decent anti-hero.

>>369639918
He probably just hit a check point earlier

>>369639945
Bullshit it ain't. Look up a man known as Shiro Maekawa.

>>369640249
Shiro Maekawa didn't write 06, though.

>>369640249
>Shiro Maekawa.
Holy shit. The guy responsible for the worst writing in the series is also responsible for the best writing in the series. Fucking HOW?

>>369640381
Wait, he actually did.

Goddamn it.

>>369627142
>Play it with the Japanese dub
>"Adios, Shadow the Hedgehog."

Why?

Why?

>>369640645
I don't know. Bye would sound to corny? Japs wouldn't understand farewell?

>>369640645
Spanish is the coolest language. Confirmed by Sonic himself.

>>369640645
Sonic is such a cool dude that he says goodbye in a different language. It is quite literally the equivalent of him saying Sayonara in the English version.

>>369640780
Then why does he always spout random english words? Checkmate, wetbacks.

>>369641032
English is low-level cool, that's why he uses it a lot more often.

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What Sonic game should I stream on Twitch?
Should I enable camera and Mic or just silent the mic and make it a pure gaming stream?

What would you Sonic fans suggest? Hard mode:No death threats or anything that involves making self a fool on stream.

>>369641204
Sonic Adventure

>All the wasted lore in 06
I feel like the game honestly has potential, but they fucked up just about everything outside of Shadow.

>>369641434
What lore?

>>369638484
>WHAT? A GHOST!

Holy shit, that's gold.

>>369634817
Same. Just because it's for kids doesn't mean it can't get serious from time to time

>>369641546
Not him but I think mephiles was cool and you have the whole future junk with blaze and silver

>>369640389
Two things:
1) He was the script writer for 06, not the guy who came up with the actual story. The actual dialogue wasn't as much of a problem as the broader overarching plot.
2) He didn't write the English dub. Not saying the Japanese version was a Pullitzer masterpiece, but the English dub was even worse.

>>369641434
I'm with you, sonic 06 had a LOT of potential to be great.

>>369638994
I've written fanfiction. Technically, I still write fanfiction. Good place for anyone to start if they want to be a writer.

I like to think I've gotten better from being a piece of shit.

>>369641852
Mephiles was just shittier Cell, the same way Silver was shittier Trunks.

>>369638819
This. Sonic never needed a sidekick. Tails is useless and annoying

>>369641852
Mephiles was shit.

>i'm going to make a retarded plan of epic proportions to merge with my other half
>instead of using my innate time travel powers to just do it

>>369641546
Well, there's evidence to suggest that Solaris was actually the Blaze world equivalent of Chaos at some point.

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>>369639674
Daily reminder that the Shadow, while helping shape what we define as edgy today, is dialed back in what we could've gotten.

>>369642190
The whole thing with Blaze was an attempted retcon that blew up right in the faces and is no longer canon.

>>369642105
Well he's the only villian to actually kill sonic

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>>369642215
>That last one

>>369642347
Wrong, Sonic didn't die.

>>369642215
I don't get people who say Shadow looks bad. Even as an intended edgy design, he's very tame and tasteful.

>>369642215
With these designs, the whole "military confused shadow and sonic" part would make sense.

They still look godawful though.

>>369642331
There's totally a way to make it work though:
>Those dickass scientists were working on tearing into other dimensions
>They pulled Solaris through along with whatever he was housed in, be it the Master Sol Emerald or whatever
>Blaze gets pulled through to Sonic's world as well
>Because the tear was artificial, and not natural, like the Rush games, Blaze gets tossed into the wrong time period
>Blaze is able to sacrifice herself to stop Iblis in the future, because she's from the same world as it
>Gets returned to her world and doesn't remember anything because "lol time reset"

Is any else afraid sonic 2017 is going to end up like this:
>Pontaff and graff are wrting again so basically we're getting "HURRRR DURRRRRRR BALDYMC NOSEHAIR" again
>Another boost to win title so no platforming at all
>Another game where the other characters are pushed to the side again and its only sonic and classic sonic again
That would be my nightmare

>>369642831
Yes, except Generations brought 3D platforming to the formula and you're a dumb memester.

>>369642361
>Neo
Oh like from the Matrix
I should have gotten that sooner

>>369642831
>Pontaff and graff are wrting again so basically we're getting "HURRRR DURRRRRRR BALDYMC NOSEHAIR" again
This is my biggest fear.

Colors was a nice little... thing, but the le funney comedeh got incredibly old by the time of Lost World. Enough of that shit.

>>369642831
That's exactly what it's gonna be and it hurts.

>>369633667
>no mention of What I'm Made Of
The props I was going to give you for remembering Knight of the Wind are immediately thrown out.

>>369631294
this

>>369642831
>>369643052

Fun fact: Apparently Ponraf and Graff never played a Sonic game, and Lost World was their first attempt at writing a story beyond a script.

And it shows.

>>369642831
No. Kicking the other characters to the curb was the best decision sega ever made. The reason why is because its SONIC the hedgehog so it should be sonic only, and maybe tails and eggman.

>>369643249
I was going for main themes. I didn't include Fight the Knight, With Me, Never Turn Back, or What I'm Made Of.

>>369633667
>I Am better than anything

Listen, though I did like it at one point in my edgy teen years, even I think it's the worst song out of everything you just listed.

>>369643327
Kill yourself. If the Sonic franchise needs anything, it's bringing the side characters back.

>>369643327
>it should be sonic only

It's not 1991 anymore, faggot.

>>369643523
Muh core 4 tho

>>369641384
Thanks man I will stream Sonic Adventure soon...

Anyone want any free steam keys?

>>369634940
Rouge did have some of the best tracks in the game, though.

>>369633461
Kill yourself

>Tfw we will never get a massive franchise with side character spinoffs
>No Knuckles treasure hunting game
>No Rouge stealth game
>No Omega KILL FUCKING EVERYTHING game
>No Chaotix detective game
>No Big fishing game
>No new Tails games
>No Eggman game
>No solo Blaze game
If they don't want different gameplay styles in the Sonic games, why not give side characters spinoffs? Like Shadow, but less edgy.

>>369643795
Never really used Steam. What are free Steam keys?

>>369641204
Play The Adventures of Sonic and Tails Adventure.

>>369638994
Never.
I used to roleplay as Sonic though. But never anything outright degenerate, thank god.

>>369644039
They have a big-ass cast but they aren't using them for anything.

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>>369644039
>No solo Blaze game

Honestly, it doesn't even need to be a Solo Blaze game for me. Just make a Sonic Rush threequel with her and use the boost formula. Boom.

>>369644301
That's what I'm saying. They don't have to use them in the main Sonic games if that's what they want, but spinoffs would be great

Look at Sonic Riders. People bitched that Sonic was on a hoverboard, but the gameplay was good. You could take the Babylon Rogues and make a "Babylon Riders" spinoff series and use that for Riders gameplay and all of the bitching stops.

>>369644039
>Tfw we will NEVER have a sonic anime that has good animation like the riders opening

>>369644505
Yeah, but a solo Blaze game could show a good parallel to Sonic and Tails. Blaze and Marine going on an adventure, with Rush gameplay rather than Genesis style. Hell, you could even have 3D style boost sections if you want.

>>369644054
Steam keys are basically codes you redeem via their system. Once redeemed you can download and play them.
AM5RM-QWQ8Z-VY6TG

>>369643327
>Tails
>Wanting an annoying kid sidekick
Fuck off

>>369644505
Why is Sanic holding a knife in that picture.

>>369644761
It was the first good picture of Sonic and Blaze I found off of Divientart.

>>369644039
Is it too much that I want an Amy & Blaze team-up game?

>>369644749
Ahh, nice.

>>369644721
Yeah, it would be cool, but a Sonic game without Sonic wouldn't really sell well, especially in this climate.

>>369644971
What makes you say that? It has the benefit of having established characters while also avoiding the stigma of typical sonic games

THE OTHER CHARACTERS ARE NEVER COMING BACK AND IT HURTS SO MUCH
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>369645080
The game would have to be really good to outdo what people outside of the fandom would say. It could work, but it'd have to be 10/10.

>>369645090
>We'll never see Knuckles, Tails, Blaze as playable characters in a 3D game again
>We'll never play as best girl Amy in a 3D game again

It hurts.

>>369627293
You don't have to cry to be sad you know.

>>369645440
Its ok Bevis. Its ok to Cry. Crying takes the sad out of you.

>>369644039
>No mention of a Silver game, set in whatever dystopian future they want to go forwards with, and having psychockinetis powers.

I understand Silver's not the most popular character, but holy shit, just think of the potential.

>>369634817
The twitter's just coasting on that until they release Mania/reveal 2017

because other than that they have literally nothing other than the Boom show

How to fix Sonic: A complete guide

Since the Sonic fanbase is incapable of agreeing on which style of game is best for the series, and it's clear that Sega and Sonic team can't figure out what to do either, the best route of action is dividing gameplay into four categories and following a four-year release rotation:
Year One: Genesis-style 2D (Maybe 2.5D?) Sonic game
Year Two: Adventure-style 3D platforming Sonic game
Year Three: Rush/Colors DS-style 2D boost Sonic game
Year Four: Unleased-style 3D boost Sonic game
Divide the devs up into two teams: Team A and Team B. Team A makes the 2D games in years one and three. Team B makes the 3D games in years two and four. Every four years, the cycle repeats.

Then, have spinoff games as suggested here >>369644039 and here >>369644507 (Don't be afraid to outsource GOOD devs if necessary. Spinoff games aren't as critical as the main games, but they should still hold some degree of polish and quality)

Some other points
>Bring back non-instrumental soundtracks
Whether it means getting Runblebee, Crush 40, or even new artists on board, the series needs some variation in music from game to game.
>Fire Pontac and Graff
BALDY MCNOSEHAIR LMAO!
>Don't be afraid to have actual story
Black Knight is probably the ideal tone in terms of Sonic story. It can be childish and fun, but it has moments where it can be somewhat serious too.
>Get better voice actors
Mike Pollock is great and Roger Craig Smith has his moments, but everyone else is pretty terrible

>>369638994
I used to roleplay. OCs only, because believe it or not we had rules. People went full(er) retard if allowed to play canon characters.

>>369645618
What kind of gameplay would a Silver game have? I'm not against the idea, but I'm not sure what kind of game he'd even have

>>369646331
>>369644184 here.
How retard is full retard? Because I always made an effort never to overstep my bounds as a canon character.

>>369646331
>Never really got into OCs because my OC got called shit on the Mystical Forest Zone forums
I dodged a bullet there, holy shit.

>>369646337
I imagine it would be a puzzle adventure type game where you would use psychokinesis to move objects all over the place for platforming and shit. Sounds kinda lame when I put it like that, but I just imagine doing all sorts of crazy shit with it.

Also, final ultimate move Silver unlocks lets him pick up enemies and use them as projectiles.

>>369646231
I enjoy the fact that Sonic was getting his ass whooped in both Secret Rings and Black Knight near the ends.

>>369638994
I just did the thing where you look out of your parent's car window and imagine Sonic running along the phone lines and doing crazy flip jumps.

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>>369645090
>Classicfag devs for Mania bring back Tails and Knuckles playable
>main Sonic games still only Sonic
>Modernfags hate Classicfags and Mania despite it giving you more of what you want than the main games are currently

>>369646996
I think I understand kinda what you mean. I think a "cuhrayzee" action game with telekinesis could be a very unique concept, but I imagine it would be pretty difficult to execute well

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L O L

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>>369647282
>TFW I did this too
>TFW I do it whenever I'm not the driver and am not in a conversation with anyone

>>369647476
To be fair, not everyone wants just Sonic, Tails & Knuckles. Some people want to see more than those 3 get the spotlight.

>>369647034
I did too. They really did well to find that middle ground that shows Sonic being mortal, but not necessarily weak or vulnerable

>>369647801
I know people who'd be completely down for Mania if it had characters like say, Amy as playable.

>>369646738
People in positions to play canon characters generally were given permission by mods to be the player of that character.

IE Buttblaster420 got the blessing of least two mods for his RPing (or ass kissing) ability. There is a slot to play Vector since no one else wants to play as his green nigger ass. However, since he is a canon character and thus better than 90% of the random OCs on the forum and in the chat.

This comes with power to just bully down other characters and posters. So they are already big e-dick motherfuckers who have been around awhile with pull with the mods, but now they have an official character.

I've seen entire posts get edited or deleted or just [nvm ignore my post]'d because a canon character player threw a fucking fit.

>>369647801
Yeah but until now it's been ONLY Sonic, so Tails and Knuckles being playable as still something fresh again. Besides, small steps anon. Can't and shouldn't make a game with 10 playable characters right away. Especially not with Sonic Team who'd be tempted to all make them play differently again.

>>369647282
Why was this a thing? I did this but it was just a silhouette of a man running along and doing all that shit.

>>369647932
This. I'm looking forward to Mania but I would've been even more hyped if they included her. Hell, a lack of a playable Amy has been one of the bigger complaints I've heard people make about Mania so far.

>>369647932
I wouldn't mind Shadow or Metal Sonic. Might even be cool as post-game unlockable characters or something, like the extra characters in Viewtiful Joe

>>369647282
holy shit I did that when I was young too. mainly when I rode the bus to and from school. it helped keep me sane. my childhood was terrible

>>369648081
Damn.

That's pretty fucking retarded, alright. Why must roleplaying in general be filled with such cunts?

>>369643795
If you're going to play SADX make sure you're playing it patched

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uNsTXIzgGI

>>369648332
Because for some people it's the only form of power they have.

I don't RP Sonic anymore but it's forever tainted how I consume smut now.

>>369638994
never
did make a few terrible fangames -- only one was as bad as klik'n'play shit, but they sure as hell weren't good

don't even read Sonic fanfiction mostly because it ranges from dull shonen ripoff shit to some furfag's wet dream

>>369646231
By the way, is there anything I missed here?

>>369627142
>>369627142
I'M THE COOLEST

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Why did the military have such cool looking bikes?

>>369631082
I like both adventure games, but I'm not dumb enough to think I would like them without the nostalgia factor

>>369648941
yeah. how about instead of rotating the sonic game styles they just create a small dev team for each style?

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9662594/1/Crossdress

The Sonic series main characters should just be Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Eggman, Shadow and Metal Sonic

>>369631082
They're both shit. You're allowed to enjoy shit.

>>369649538
Because there's be far less devs working on any one project, and dividing into two teams for 2D and 3D seems like a better option than having the entirety of Sonic Team working on one project at a time for several years.

>>369629915
Sonic always says sayonara even in the cartoons

>>369646231
Classic style can just be done by Taxman/Stealth using the Sonic Mania brand. 2D boost style can just be done by Dimps; I know they sucked ass once the franchise moved to 3D but that was more due to deadline and budget restrictions with the DS boost games getting better with each installment. 3D boost is redundant and irrelevant if you're going to have non-boost 3D and 2D boost. So they can just split it into 3 teams (Taxman/Stealth, Sonic Team, Dimps) and have each team put out a game every 2 years, staggering the releases to be 2 per year with the 4th game being a side game like All-Stars Racing or Riders or an RPG or whatever.

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Does anyone want to play? I haven't played in awhile and there are a couple new zones. Also actual slopes instead of weird steps for hills, apparently.

>>369650014
Fuck off. You're the reason why sonic is shit now.

>>369650014
>Wanting a shitty sidekick
>Wanting an edgelord
Sonic, Knuckles, Eggman, Metal is the only acceptable answer. Sonic works alone, he's too cool for friends

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>>369650014
and Snively

>>369650014
>no girls
literally kill yourself faggot

>>369650014
>>369650361
Too fucking bad. The series had more than those characters even in the 90s. Fuck off.

>>369650238
>3D boost is redundant and irrelevant if you're going to have non-boost 3D and 2D boost
Yeah, but now that it's had a few games that enough people liked, there's gonna be tons of bitching if you get rid of it. I opted to try and please everyone.

I'm still partial to staggering releases so you get one main game per year, along with whatever spinoffs get released, because it keeps the flow of games coming at a fairly constant rate.

I do like the idea of Dimps and Taxman/Stealth taking over for the 2D games though. Then you could still divide Sonic Team into two big teams and give them each of the 4 dev teams 4 years to make their respective games.

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>>369645571

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>>369650014
This is the cast of Sonic the Hedgehog. No more, no less. Although, if you could replace Big with Omega, that'd be great....

>>369650830
Best girl, worst guy

>>369650656
Well that was a mistake they need to fix

>>369650865
Why is Cream there? Why isn't bestboy Jet the Hawk there? Where is Metal Sonic?

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>>369650298
He has your precious Shadow on that list though, you dumb Modernfag.

>>369650865
I don't understand why people say sonic a huge cast. It's literally less than 20 people.

>>369650984
Friendly reminder that jet the hawk is going to make a cameo apperance in project 2017.

>>369651069
Yeah, I don't get it either. It's not like they have to use every character in every single game or anything.

>>369650985
>Implying all Modernfans like Shadow

>>369650923
No they don't. I repeat, fuck off.

>>369651069
Only idiots think Sonic has a huge cast. The series was always gonna be more than just Sonic & Eggman, so this autistic complaining about the series having more than 2 characters is just stupid.

>>369651179
>Friendly reminder that jet the hawk is going to make a cameo apperance in project 2017
SOURCE

>>369651290
Just because they planned ot introduce more doesn't mean it was always a good idea. Knuckles, Metal, and Eggman are fine. 3 villains for Sonic to fight. Sonic doesn't need friends, just people to beat up. Hell, bring in Chaos and Biolizard and whatever, same with Shadow and Rouge. The only new characters should be villains

>>369651445
>>369650830

>>369650830
>Friend of mine did a blaze cosplay EXACTLY like that picture
I'm not into cosplay, but damn...

>>369631294
>be 10
>play them when they were new
>love them

>be 25
>replay them
>fucking garbage
>ragequit

>>369642215
>Muscles
That... really doesn't look right in that art style.

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>>369650830
>>369651445
They went straight to the deed????

>>369651529
>Knuckles
>Villain

Stop being as dumb as Knuckles actually is today. He was never a villain, just lied to by Eggman so he could get an ally.

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meant to post here whoops
hy is there a jewel in her head?
Why don't the Sol Emeralds have a Master Emerald counterpart?
Why does she seem to recognize Sonic in 06?
Why didn't she do anything in Generations despite it being implied she had possession of the Sol Emeralds the whole time?
What's the Chaos Control equivalent of Rushverse?

>>369651691
I'm the exact opposite. When I was a kid I thought they were mediocre and that video games would only get better from there.

If only I knew how wrong I was...

>>369651529
Well too bad anon, because SEGA & the majority of Sonic fans don't mind Sonic having friends. Go shitpost this tired nonsense somewhere else.

>>369651774
True, true. Keep him strictly as a rival then

>>369651830
see >>369642802

>>369651908
Delet this blaze is pure

>play SA2 Sonic and Shadow levels
>fast paced gameplay mixed with segments of platforming or using the homing attack to get across bottomless pits keep the player from being over-stimulated
>grinding

>modern sonic games
>"le boost to winXDD bingbingbingbing ohyeah bingbingbingbingboostboost"

>>369651339
I'm a certified psychic anon.

Why have Sonic threads been so good lately? Is it because the dedicated shitposters are busy with all the different new releases lately?

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>>369651830
>hy is there a jewel in her head?
it's a fashion thang
>Why don't the Sol Emeralds have a Master Emerald counterpart?
who knows, it might exist and be guarded by femKnux
>Why does she seem to recognize Sonic in 06?
What is 06? sounds like bad fanfiction
>Why didn't she do anything in Generations despite it being implied she had possession of the Sol Emeralds the whole time?
because it's SONIC generations, not Blaze Generation. Sonic games must only have sonic playable
>What's the Chaos Control equivalent of Rushverse?
Sol Pitfall, because there are way too fucking much in rush

>>369652239
>femKnux
So if Blaze is femSonic, and Marine is femTails, then who's femKnux?

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This is one of the rare gijinka art that is good I might say

>>369652223
Yeah, games people desire are actually coming out for a change.

>>369650830
Pure autism.

>>369652223
All the shitposters are in the Sonic general on /vg/.

>>369652340
So wait, if Blaze is femSonic, Marine is femTails, what does that make Amy? Is she just her own thing?

>>369652520
>games people desire
Well, I don't know about that. All I know is that shitposters aren't in Sonic threads right now, and that's fine by me.

>>369651882
Knuckles has always been Sonic's friendly rival. He's basically the Piccolo of the Sonic universe.

>>369652536
Silver or the drawing?

>>369647282
I did this but it was a hotwheels car on some crazy track instead of sonic

>>369652660
She is her own thing, meaning that somewhere in Blaze's world, there's guyAmy and he's got the hots for Blaze.

>>369652689
>Knuckles raising Sonic's son

>>369649523
Why does shadow need a bike?

His shoes are rocket propelled he doesn't even need to put as much effort as sonic does. Plus he can teleport.

>>369652689
He's still a rival at best and should be treated as such

>>369652862
In the very same cutscene, you see him ram the bike into an ayy lmao and it explodes. Can't do that on foot.

>>369631082

We never hated SA2. We just also know/accepted its not a good game

>>369652678
Hey, people have been wanting stuff like Mania & Project 2017 for a while. Granted they just had to put Classic Sonic in P17, but people wanted a 3D Sonic game with a bit more serious story, & Project 17 looks to be doing that.

>>369652818
Hmm, this kinda makes me wanna see more of Blaze's dimension.

>>369652862
Cuz motorcycles are kool!

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>>369652467
Knuckles looks like this nigga from free.

>>369650830
>>369651445
>>369651908
could somebody please tell me the artist's name?

>>369633461

Unknown from M.E.>Unkown from M.E.

>>369653112
Here ya go senpai.

>>369653295
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=5913028

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>>369653295
>>369653390
thanks homie

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>>369652689

>Sonic is Goku
>Shadow is Vegeta
>Silver is Trunks
>Scourge is Black Goku

>>369653032
>people have been wanting stuff like Mania & Project 2017 for a while
Oh, I was talking about how the shitposters are occupied with threads about current releases like the Switch, Zelda, Horizon, Nier, etc.

>Hmm, this kinda makes me wanna see more of Blaze's dimension
Maybe that anon that suggested all those spinoffs was on to something

>>369633461
Objectively true.

>>369627142
Love, love, loved that part

>>369648382
Should wait until it's actually complete IMO

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>>369652467
Reminder that this picture is a real thing.

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Alright real talk, how many of you tried to do that stupid "run with your arms behind you thing" and also did it do anything?

>>369653865
God I hope this never happens. This is horrifying

>>369653865
What the fuck are those wires for?

>>369651830
>Why does she seem to recognize Sonic in 06?
Translation error

Silver is supposed to refer to Sonic as a naive hedgehog, with Blaze repeating what he said as foreshadowing that Silver might be the Iblis Trigger after all

>>369654059
I've done it both ironically and unironically. I still do it sometimes when I'm at home alone

>>369654059
Luckily I grew up on the Sega games, so I never did that.

>>369653865
KILL IT WITH FIREE

>>369651445
>>369651908
Someone color his hair blue

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>>369654112
Wait, really? That's the plotline they were going for?

Wow. They put that entire idea into one line, because I couldn't have told you that from anything else in the story.

>>369652467
Pic related, How bad are the fujofags in this fandom?

>>369654059
That's also the Naruto run.

But I'll fully admit to have done it both unironically and ironically.

>>369646337

Like Psi-Ops, but better, and with puzzles.

>>369654335
Sonic 06's story was supposed to be a lot of things

Like "good"

And I'll remind you this is the localization we're talking about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV5gSnrDOI4

>>369654328
t.sonazefag

>>369654584
>Not wanting to bang your femself from another dimension

>>369654473
Not him, I also had the idea of making him play like Psi-Ops, but that wouldn't be very Sonic-like at all, would it?

I mean I'd still be down with it if they didn't have those fuckstupid invisible monsters, but you know.

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>>369654584
It's better than Silver x Blaze anyway

Sonic game with comfy SoL sidequests/scenes when? I want to see the characters interacting with each other more personally.

>>369654224
This
I ran the way sonic ran in sonic 2, with my arms curled in front of me and my hand in fists

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>>369654750

I'd like that. Be nice to see Sonic's living quarters outside of that super blurry Secret Rings intro cut scene.

>>369654884
Oh, shit. Forgot that pic was attached.

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>>369637952
I fucking forgot about that scene.
Holy fuck, I needed this laugh.

>>369643795
gibs

WATCH OUT YOU'RE GONNA CRASH

>>369654584
Blaze best girl, and Silver a shit. This is fact.

>>369655310
>Blaze best girl
That's not Omega

>>369654442
But Sonic did it first if I remember correctly which means people will call you a weeaboo and not an immature sonic fag if you were to do it in public

>>369655508
Omega is just the best, gender unattached. Because gender is for meatbags who don't have built in weapon systems and worthless consumer models.

>>369655348
stop

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>>369655310
>Hating Psychic Trunks the hedgehog

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>>369640645
>the nips did this ahead of time to fuck with people who were gonna complain about the dub

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>>369629063
>Sonic
>Serious narratives
It was just some blue hedgehog freeing his woodland friends from Dr. Robotnik.

Maybe I'm getting too old for this shit.

>>369655310
Silver's cute.

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Am I the only one who liked the birds from Sonic Riders? I remember playing the game and liking it, but eventually the skill cieling got too high for my child-self and I never completed it. I remember thinking how great an addition they'd be to future Sonic games.

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>>369655550
Sorry I was wrong Naruto did it first, I'm thinking of the new games and not the old ones where he had them to his sides

>>369655973
Wave and Storm were literally just Tails and Knuckles 2,0, but Jet was pretty cool. one nice thing is that they were all rivals that pissed each other off. Wave telling Tails his boards are shit, Jet disrespecting Sonic's speed on the ground, Storm just being storm around Knuckles.

They were okay. Would like to see them with a more in depth characterization, though.

Would you play a remastered version of Sonic 2006 where all the bugs and load times were fixed, the controls were reworked, and it used the current VA's?

>>369656327
Does Elise count as a bug? Get rid of her and the game has a chance to be good

>>369655990
How long has Naruto been running? Because Sonic's been doing that pose ever since Adventure.

>>369656327
Rework the story, and maybe get Griffith back for Sonic and Shadow. At least as an extra voice you can turn on and off.

>>369656327
No

And if I wanted to play "Sonic 06 but good" I'd play Sonic Adventure

>>369655973
I liked that anime style riders had going on. Wished they used that kind of style for future games.

>>369656436
>Story about Sonic and Co. wrecking Eggman's shit
Eh, sure.

>>369656548
More like Sonic and Co. trying to stop Egomaniac from releasing Iblis. Shadow and Silver's stories stay basically the same.

>>369637572
It was solely because he was playable but Eggman was weirdly competent in SA2. I think that and playing as Gerald's demon spawn Shadow and Turbo Slut/Double Agent for the good guys Rogue really made the game's story because when they said you could play both Good and Evil they actually meant it.

Gun/the Prez was kind of retarded but the rest was good Maria a cute. StH just took a shit on that.

>>369638994
I wrote digimon fan fiction.

Is that more or less autistic?

>>369656451
Since 1997, it beat adventure by a year https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naruto

>>369656892
Depends if you crossed over with Sonic at any point.

>>369656939
no.

>>369656451
Started as a oneshot in 97 and serialized in 99

Sonic Adventure was 98, so it was inbetween

If we wanna get technical, Sonic zipping with his arms behind his back started in CD with the Super Peel Out all the way in 93

>>369657076
Did that one-shot show people doing the autism run though?

What the fuck are you sonic bronies even doing on this website?

>>369657485
Delaying an inevitable suicide and relishing in the fact that all the proof of my teenage year shittery has disappeared as small isolated forums became outdated and abandoned.

>>369657813
Shit, I'm just bored.

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>>369657174
It actually doesn't

It does have Naruto getting framed for theft and murder

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>>369658723
>Baletta

>>369652660
>All the shitposters are in the Sonic general on /vg/.
Fuck off

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>>369656436
Just turn Elise into a hedgehog

Knuckles is real hip hop

>>369642762
yeah but the finalized version is more consistent with the mural. which is more important? The mural or a major plot thread?

>>369633667
>>369634045
>>369634138


What about Reach for the stars?

>>369659650
She looks better than her human counterpart.

>>369660506
because she fits better
and she's more fuckable

>>369629915
He actually says "adios" in the Japanese dub .

>>369627142
Shadow the Hedgehog was so serious it was corny and worked really fucking well because of it

>>369661324
Like stealing candy from a baby
Which is fine by me

Omega is cool

>>369660730
That's hilarious

>>369627293
he knew he would come back in the sequel

>>369655802
This. The most it needs is "Eggman built a thing go stop him". Colors is about as serious as it should get

The only good 3D Sonic games is Adventure 2 and Unleashed. Anyone else feel this way?

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>>369663407
I'd say "better of" than "only good". However I'd take a game like Unleashed in theory with polished up Adventure Sonic physics as a 3D game, THEN I'd call it the "only good 3D Sonic game".

>>369663295
>BALDY MCNOSEHAIR AYYYYY
Fuck off.

>>369663905
Better than guns and werewolves

>>369663637
Close enough. You never really feel the need for a fully intricate physics engine though. The havok engine that they use now actually can be bended and played with its just that levels never require it. The best example I can think of is after the dual split path in apotos day, where you slide under and then hit 2 pulleys, 3D. There is steps that you can manipulate using the boost and a jump to skip over the first platform and immediately get close enough to the homing attack targets. I find that everything after Unleashed feels way to restrictive with Sonic's movement. Every ability in Unleashed could be used, intentionally or not, for extra ways to rack up speed but they filtered all that fun stuff out in everything after. With Lost World being the epitome of how stiff Sonic can be. I don't know it's just not a fun movement system anymore. I hope 2017 loosens up Sonic and makes him more agile, but if 70-80% of the game is going to be 2D again what's the point?

>>369638994
Wrote? Nothing, though that didn't stop me from coming up with a cool OC Hedgehog like everyone did after SA 2.

>>369642831
You contradicted yourself by saying "Boost to win with no platforming" then comparing it to Sonic Generations.

You stupid nigger, Sonic Generations was everything modern Sonic needed. It was the best fucking game made in a VERY long time.

>>369664902
The less platforming stages of Generations are better. The day stage Unleashed mod is better than the whole of Generations.

>>369629282
>Adventure
>Not geared for kids

The entire game had everyone except Knuckles and Gamma act like fucking cartoon characters, especially Robotnik.

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How come i feel like i'm the only one who likes all of the different sonic gameplay styles. While i mostly grew up with classic, Modern/Adventure are pretty fun.

>>369666252
You aren't.

I also prefer Classic but all three are just fine in my books.

>>369666252
Can play classic and boost just fine but find adventure era (1999-2006) to be awkward and slow to play. It has neither the physics engine of the originals nor the speed finesse of boost to be interesting. Combine that with a multitude of unpolished game styles, bland graphics, and overbearing stories or undercooked stories and its my least favorite of sonic.

>>369666252
You're not alone, mate. I prefer the Modern style, but I'm a fan of all three & arguing over which one is better just reeks of autism, tbhfam.

>>369636593
There is a reason the best thing made of sonic was satam

>>369668696
>This lie

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Technically, it's Tuesday morning, but whatever.

Does anyone here have an xbone? How do the BC sonic games run on it? Is every 360 sonic game BC on it?

;_;

>Silver spinoff never