Rank them best to worst

>>367630918
Explorers of Sky>Blue Rescue Team>Super>Gates to Infinity

>>367631130
Pretty much this

>>367631130
Is super mystery dungeon any good?

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>>367630918
Rescue Team > Explorers = Super > Gates

>>367632251
It's not Gates.

>>367632251
Yes

>>367632386
This is how it is for me
I love all of them

>>367632567
Same

>>367630918
Super = Sky > Explorers > Gates
In terms of story Gates is my favorite

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>>367630918
>mfw there exist people who think Gate's story is better than Explorer's

>>367631130
>>367632386
>super this low
Shit taste, fuck off fags.

>>367632251
Super Mystery Dungeon is objectively the best in the series. Way better than Sky. Ignore those nostalgiafags

>>367632646
>if super isnt number one its too low
Yeah, okay fag.

>>367632646
He put Super equal to Explorers, dummy
I put Red Rescue Team above all of them because its simplicity is lovely and it seems to play so much more smoothly than the other games

The final bossbattle/end of mystery dungeon S,T,D is one of the best endings ive ever seens

>>367630918
Here is my ranking:
Real Pokemon games
This spinoff crap.

>>367633289
the spinoffs have been better than mainline pokemon ever was :-)

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>>367633289
I have literally haven't played a mainline game since Ruby and I haven't completed a mainline game since Crystal.

>>367630918
Super? More like super shit.

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>>367633451
Here is a picture of my cherished main series games. You should play these and see why the spinoffs are shit in comparison.

>>367634043
those are some of the shittiest ones though aside from alpha sapphire

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>>367634043
>X
>Alpha Saphire

>>367634161
>>367634214
They are just the three most recent ones. I'm sorry you can't get past Gen 1 nostalgia and appreciate the newer games.

>>367634329
I never even played Gen I you nigger.

>>367633289
The mainline pokemon games have always sucked. Meanwhile in spinoff land:
>pokemon TCG
>pokemon snap
>mystery dungeon
>hey you pikachu

>>367634390
Well then you have no right to talk. Anyone who hasn't played a game from all 7 Gens has no right to critique Pokemon.

>>367634329
pokemon sun had way too many cutscenes interrupting me to have fun playing it
>here this cutscene finally ended
>haha you wanted to walk 5 feet without another cutscene? too bad!
pokemon x had the same problem
alpha sapphire was pretty alright though aside from the complete lack of good postgame

>>367634329
I don't need to get past Gen 1 nostalgia when Gen 5 completely supersedes XY/ORAS/SM in terms of quality

>>367632603
Correct answer,

>tfw i lost my blue rescue team cartridge somewhere while going on vacation.

I can still play it on my r4 but it still feels off.
Should i buy the game again?

>>367634604
that answer doesn't even have rescue team in it

>>367634428
TCG is a different medium, so impossible to compare. It's like comparing Chess to Halo.
Snap and Hey You Pikachu are shallow N64 shovel ware that were only made to cash in on the 90's Pokemon craze.
Mystery Dungeon is a mediocre dungeon crawling series randomly starring Pokemon characters. It doesn't compare to the wonderful battling system and collecting of the main series games.

>>367634648
Oh yeah. I knew I messed up somewhere.
Super = Explorers > Rescue Team > Gates

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>>367634769
>wonderful battling system

>>367634390
even worse

They're all equally shit, honestly.

>>367631130
Truth

>>367634560
>Gen 5
>superseding anything in terms of quality

>>367634487
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYw0mQ62rI4
What are you talking about? Sun has 15 total minutes of cutscenes (video above). If you are talking about character conversations, that is in every Pokemon game. Just set your text speed to fast and mash A.

How can so many wrong opinions coalesce and fester in one thread?

>>367634847
>Not an argument

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gameplay:
rescue team > super = explorers > gates

story:
explorers = gates > super > rescue team

music:
all about equal

>>367635079
This thread deserved to be taken over. Nobody older than 8 should be playing those crap Mystery Dungeon games.

>>367635050
the problem is that the spacing of them is abso-fucking-lutely god-awful and i usually pay attention to dialog so that i know what's going on

also it forces you into a lot of character conversations without even going over to talk to them

>>367635123
i have never seen a battle system more shallow and boring than mainline pokemon

even the meta is shit

IIRC super was just a huge Tales of Symphonia rip-off.

Pokemon gen power ranking:
4 > 5 > 3 > 2 > 1 > 6 > 7

>>367635453
only superficially

>>367635290
I was talking about you. Everything that comes out of your keyboard stings my skin like millions of tiny pins. Just take my (You) and never post again, because that is clearly the only thing you exist for.

>>367635482
This was never a main game discussion

>>367635482
acceptable opinion

>>367632646
Did someone say the postgame of Super Mystery Dungeon was as long as your penis or something? Because it is.

>>367635536
It is now, because nobody should have started a discussion about Mystery Dungeon.

>>367636126
probably longer than his penis

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NEVER FORGET

Wow im suprised to see so many people saying that super was good is it really worth my time and money since i loved sky?

>>367635514
My posts are the best you pussy faggot.

one thing i didnt like of sky was spoiling the special episodes in the intro, specially grovyle and dusknoir together

>>367636275
No Mystery Dungeon game is worth your time. Play real Pokemon instead.

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>>367636171
>don't talk about games I don't like!
here's your (you)

>>367636275
it's pretty good
super was a pleasant surprise after gates to infinity
the plot has some weaknesses but it's fun and the music is fantastic as always

>>367636275
It has some stupid decisions like evolution linke with age and limited quests but i liked it overall

>>367630918
Super > Sky > Time/Darkness > Gates to Infinity > Blue > Red.

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People just need to ignore that kid trying to derail the thread and just focus on the topic at hand. Speaking of which: which ending hit you the hardest? Personally, it was Explorer's. That music coupled with my partner crying over me being gone just really struck a chord and left me feeling pretty sad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS4kljcJ-fw

>>367636732
hard to say because the endings all hit me in different ways
although i didn't really feel much for the ending in super but maybe i should replay it again

Rescue Team is the weakest overall to me, it's only just about sufficient at everything, but it does have neat shit like Friend Areas and actually having sleeping animations in the base if you evolve

Explorers of Sky is easily the best overall, it does everything at least pretty well, only real issue I take with it is they fucked up IQ growth speed compared to Rescue Team

Gates has the weakest core dungeon crawling and jackshit for optional content but it has my favorite story elements and the base building was cool

Super has the best core dungeon crawling and is the best for completionists but the story is garbage and the general game structure is worse than the other three


tl;dr Explorers of Sky > Super > Gates > Rescue Team

I wish there was a Gates "remake" for Switch fixing its problems and adding the old pokemon.

>>367636732
Every time i see that gif i just remember the guy who was crying about the fact that the vita never got a monster hunter game. Its like a pavlovian response from me to read your comment and expect something about mh and the vita a

>>367637312
i always wonder about people saying rescue team has the weakest gameplay because it's actually the smoothest

if you pay close attention explorers would have a frame of lag between turns with lots of pokemon on the floor, which becomes pretty noticeable while moving around

and with explorers you had to constantly go through fade-to-black loading screens because you had to walk through a billion rooms in the guild

plus it has a shitton of 'conveniences' built everywhere instead of just putting everything in logical places

i wouldn't call super's story garbage either, just weaker than the other 3, it still had some moments that got me

>>367637312
Almost this. I found Super = Explorers. I thought Super's story was a bit better then you give it credit for and Explorer's story a bit worse.

>>367637572
Not only the story, the battle system of super relying solely on moves felt like artificial difficulty bullshit to me. The amount of times I ran out of elixirs right before a boss fight almost made me give up on the game entirely.

>>367637953
i've never actually had that problem but I picked Chespin, the god-tier starter

i always thought that needing stricter PP management made more sense for a pokemon game; in previous games i never really needed to care about elixirs except right before a boss fight

plus there's damage-dealing items you can also rely on, and items to just disable or send enemies away if you don't want to fight them

>>367636383
I havent liked real pokemon since diamond, alpha saphire was ok

Time/Dark/Sky > Super > BlueRed >>>>>>>> Gates

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Did you forgive him, /v/?

>>367638597
I want to hug Nuzleaf!

>>367636383

It's the other way around numbnuts, they're the only pokemon games that still have a possibility of you losing in them

>>367631130
>Rescue Team
>better than Super
Explain

Whats Gates like? I missed that one

I also missed Blazing, Stormy and Light Adventure Squad but no one ever talks about them

>>367638820
It's terrible, doesn't have every Pokemon, it's bad.
Hydreigon is cute though. I'd kiss him.

>>367636383
PMD games are the only high quality Pokemon games though. "Real" Pokemon games have easier gameplay, worse plots, and worse music

>>367638820
It was basically Chunsoft testing out an engine for future 3DS PMD titles. Henceforth, a lot of sacrifices to content and gameplay were made. Story's pretty good though.

>>367638820
good story, good music, shittier, much more shallow gameplay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCYicScO-iA
(this is from gates to infinity it's just that Super had higher quality file compression)

worth playing if you like PMD for the story and music

the wii games are basically fucking nothing, iirc they don't even have a real story

Why cant you put the map on the top screen in super? Why...?

>>367639185
because 3D i guess

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>>367638597
Yes, because he did nothing wrong.

>>367638820
On top of making a new engine it was rushed as fuck so it would hit shelves in Japan before Gen VI was announced, so it's very barebones. Didn't even have 150 Pokemon. The only real reason to play it is for the story and characters if you like the series for that which some would argue are the best in the series.

>>367639792
i dont remember anything about the Gates to Infinity characters besides Hydreigon being fun, Virizion a total bitch and Keldeo a whiny fuck.

>>367640191
that's more memorable than most PMD characters ever

Super's partner was the most delightful character

>>367634043
>no post game the experience
>gimped remake the game
>cutscenes the movie

Great taste you have there

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Is Explorers of Sky like Crystal/Emerald/Platinum, where it's just the definitive version of the Explorer games?

>>367638820
Like others have said it had good (maybe even the best?) story/characters. Good music and graphics. Some nice QoL improvements and some pretty cool ideas.

However, the gameplay is shallow, the content terribly limited, and the good ideas were often underdeveloped.

>>367640747
Yes.

>>367630918
sky>rescue team>super>dog shit>GtI

>>367630918
>mystery dungeon spin off

all trash, conquest was a better spin off

>>367641194
>dog shit>GtI
Why do people do this when it isn't warranted in the slightest?
You're not talking about the Sonic series or the Star Fox series here.

>>367641303
Conquest was an extreme disappointment for me, they couldn't even let you change you pokemon's moves for god's sake.

>>367634043
Why don't you cherish bw or dp

>>367638808
Super is baby shit for the first 5 hours before actually being decent.

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>>367642164
>baby shit
It's the hardest PMD

>>367631130
This is correct

>>367630918
Explorers > Super > rescue team in my opinion. Didn't play gates, but I doubt it's too bad since the rest are good bar the wii ones apparently.

>>367642431
>for the first 5 hours

>>367642551
bar the Wii games Gates is literally "the rest"

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>>367631130
Explorer of Sky >> Super (Of only by virtue of the gameplay) > Rescue Team >>>Gates to Infinity

>buy Super
>tutorials
>so many tutorials
>finish tutorial school
>have to do chores to recruit Pokémon instead, so the number of allies you can get is limited
>didn't like Ampharo's group
I haven't touched the game since I got to that point, I just don't feel like playing.

I read on /v/ that Nuzleaf was a bad guy or something like that, but I've never got to continue the story.

Can someone spoil the rest of the story for me? Maybe I'll get interested and resume the game or something.

>>367642649
He means the rest of the series, which in that context is the games he played.

I bet you can't make it through the whole thing without crying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3NViQg0VXI&

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>>367636732
Explorers hit me harder than Super

I can't get motivated if it's my character crying, but if it's someone else crying, that shit hits MUCH HARDER

>>367642797
>have to do chores to recruit Pokémon instead of fighting them
I edited the sentence and left it unfinished

>>367630918
Gameplaywise
Super > Explorers > Rescue Team >>> Gates

Storywise
Gates > Explorers > Rescue Team >>> Super

Every PMD game is good and worth playing though.

>>367642934
wouldn't it be much better if Ampharos's team was there to mourn your partner leaving

>>367642797
>not liking Ampharos
The story is kind of weird. You have to defeat the Dark Matter, which is causing the Tree of Life to fly into space, which in turn causes the Earth to stop spinning and start to fall into the Sun. Yes, you climb the tree while it's flying into space and every legendary is battling to keep it from doing so.

>>367642797
Nuzleaf is evil and you fight the heartless after being sent to hell or whatever. I mean some people talk about how great a story these games are, but they're all basically the same. I enjoyed Super the most since it was a little more difficult, I liked almost every mechanical change and I preferred the completion angle to random recruitment since I liked to mostly focus on my main two characters. If that isn't the case you aren't really missing much

>>367630918

I hated these games

If Super got Special Episodes, what would you want to see?

>>367643525
the life of Espurr for fucking sure

>>367631130
/thread, fpbp

>>367632251
it's alright, the OST is fucking godtier especially the final boss music, and the regular boss music but with electric guitar, that was hype as fuck. Dungeons have less floors but they're bigger and normal attacks barely do any damage so there's a higher emphasis on using elixirs and healing items.

I think im going to get super who do you guys recomend i get as starters?

>>367633391
I disagree

they're better than the 3DS games though, seriously just what the fuck went wrong with gen 6/7?

>XY is so bland that it's not even worth existing
>ORAS is worse than emerald
>SM is unfinished movie garbage

I bought Super Mystery Dungeon the other day and for some reason I'm stuck at the Poliwrath Dungeon. Everything in there just fucking wrecks me and it takes forever to level.

I'm absolutely lost at what I'm doing wrong.

>>367643617
chespin
some kind of good water type to cover chespin
if you wanna play meta that is

>>367636732
Rescue Team, since when it hit I had been caught up basking in the glory of beating Rayquaza.

Honorable mention goes to Igglybuff the Prodigy.

>>367643674
they forgot what makes the games fun

>>367643695
Super puts a metric fuckton of emphasis on item use and management, you should be able to get through everything so long as you're wise with your items

>>367643617
In terms of how good they are I'd probably put chespin at the top for main character since pin missile and rollout are pretty OP for killing bosses. For a partner anything with a lot of ranged moves is good (I think pretty much any water or fire pokemon fits that catagory).
Also anything with agility will rape the game. Off the top of my head I don't remember who gets that aside from pikachu though

Do you think Grovyle fucked his human friend?

is there a single videogame soundtrack piece as fucking god-tier as this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvsOsIq5F0s

>>367643695
Use orbs and wands. A totter, petrify, or sleep orb makes a huge difference in fights like that

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>>367643617
Chespin is by far the strongest, but may trivialize the game. Just pick whatever combo seems comfiest.

>>367644065
Don't forget the based Truant Wand

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>>367631130
fpbp

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Who SnivyxFennekin here?

>>367644391
is that like the ultimate autism combo or what

>>367630918
1.) Pokémon is for queers.
2.) Pokémon is for niggers.
3.) Pokémon players should be executed.
4.) Pokémon is for retards.

>>367644563
do we know any gay nigger retards

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>>367644563

>>367644256
Not that guy, but a word of warning

Certain dungeons, especially in postgame, are hell as Chespin

>>367643674
XY spent too much time on asset creation and was damage control after the pretty loud backlash Gen V got from many about certain aspects, ORAS/SM director has no idea what he's doing and is plain out of touch as evidenced by actually listening to feedback then completely missing the point

Also a general shift of what GF thinks makes a good game which has slowly been creeping in since BW1 or arguably HGSS

>>367644256
Is froakie really that bad? I always assumed with a ranged multi hit move and the water type movepool he would be one of the better ones. Either way it's not like any of them make the game impossible or anything I guess

>>367644460
yes

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>>367644632
>you will never direct a pokemon game and make a good one again

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>>367644256
That tier list is outdated
>>367643617
Chespin breaks the game
Charmander and Totodile's starting movesets are so good you really don't need anything else
Fennekin and Tepig start with 4-tile moves, making them excellent partners

Torchic is outclassed by all other Fire-types
Chikorita and Snivy are trash

Everything else is okay

But desu Starters don't matter too much, so consider the accompanying tier list to be more of a difficulty select

>>367644625
There's the two story ones were you have to go alone, but if those dungeons are really that hard on you by that time you could just bring hoopa or a bunch of guidance wands or something. Other than those I can't think of any real trouble I ran into

>explorers of sky post game
>can't change party leader in dungeon

Yeah, time to just close the game and play something else

>>367644256
Im thinking of getting either treecko, mudkip, or piplup as my partner which one should i get?

>>367645115
>tfw super has a dedicated "change leader" button

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>>367630918
>... Oh, Bidoof...
>That music that kicks in
>mfw
Yea, it's easily sky, haven't played super yet though.
Gates was pretty shit and red/blue was quite alright.

>>367645137
Piplup starts with Bubble and gets Bubble Beam later, both of which are STAB 4-tile moves (ideal for partners)

Treecko's pretty standard, it gets Dragon Breath (4-tile move) and it has a nice TM moveset, but there's not much special about it

Mudkip... really doesn't stand out at all. I guess it has a nice TM movepool, and early Mud Bomb is cool, but there's better choices

So I'd say Piplup

>>367644965
I liked Oshawott and Fennekin. Oshawott for the up close Physical melee, Fennekinn for far off Special ranged. They complimented each other well.

>>367645729
Mudkip also works well with charmander when you evolve since can freely earthquake shit, but yeah other than that I'd say any is as good as another

>>367642774
exactly this. i would only rank super over rescue team against my own judgement as the objectively better game because of better gameplay mechanics, and by a very small margin at that i still fuk wit rescue team over super anyday of the week tho

>>367644256
I always use the charmander + mudkip combi, that one has never failed me.
Also Heat wave charizard + earthquake Swampert is Overkill post game.

everything past sky was a mistake

A rancid turd> The Pokemon Mystery Dungeon series

>>367647968
/thread

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>took 10 hours to get to the credits in Sky
>music makes it feel like I spent a lifetime in the guild with my partner
>suddenly feel absurdly nostalgic over stuff that happened earlier that day
Usually when that kind of thing comes up in the credits I just appreciate how much I've done, but not this time for some reason.

>>367647869
I enjoyed everything past Sky :^)

Ok now im deciding between having main-fennekin partner-piplup, or main-mudkip partner- charmander

>>367649929
Someone give me advice plz

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>>367650078
I always use Charmander+mudkip, it never failed before and like I said they will rape everything on screen postgame.

>>367650202

Mudkip is the best partner in every game.

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Which is the best starter/partner duo in the series aesthetically?

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>>367650338
my man

>>367650493
Someone answer this

>>367650493
Chespin and Fenneken since that way they evolve into classic RPG archetypes from doing dungeon crawl shit and are also two of the better starters in terms of ability

>>367652508
>ability

Aesthetic.

Also I think Oshawott is a better fit for Fennekin, especially once they evolve once.

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>>367650493

Cubone for best starter in the series.

>multi hit projectile
Definition of OP in PMD.

Rescue Team > all