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I finished Nioh and like... I loved it at the start but it falls

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I finished Nioh and like... I loved it at the start but it falls apart as you go

> You see every non-boss enemy by roughly the 1/3rd mark of the game, and spend the rest just repeatedly fighting the same mobs you know the entire moveset to already
>flaws in the level design really start to show in some of the mid-late levels as well. Room to move is important to a game like this, where a single dodge press throws you 5-10 feet in any direction at will, but they fall back on narrow corridors and cliff-heavy areas too often
>The story is mediocre at best, frustratingly pointless at worst. There's missions where you go out of your way to accomplish literally nothing, and it just feels like they ran out of ideas
>The setting is interesting but areas feel very same-y outside of a couple levels, and the lore given for regions never really varries from "it was a peaceful village then omg yokai!!11!"
>Plus I'm fairly certain, that at some point in development, the game was katanas-only. It's the only thing I can think of to explain the huge katana-focus of all the loot. There's like 15 different gearsets that have bonuses for swords, the kasurigama has 0 for example
>The game's difficulty fars apart less than halfway through, because you've seen everything the enemies have to offer. Yet you still get stronger and unlock new moves and abilities yourself, it just makes the same foes you've been facing even easier. Sure they get better stats but so does the player and it kinda cancels out.
>I unlocked the NG+ this morning, and while it makes loot (slightly) more interesting, I have no desire to keep playing it as it's once again just fighting the same enemies with slight stat increases rather than new moves or options

This game had a lot of potential, and I really dug it going in, but after the first 3rd or so of the game you start to see all the glaring cracks.
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I'm at the third area, and I just did the twilight version of the water-shrine Umi-bozu level. I thought it was pretty hard. Even though it used enemies I've seen before, it puts them in new situations, which is complimented by the difficulty of the terrain.

People who complain about "falling" to their death are just retards who don't realize part of the gameplay is control over your movements--since the game is so much faster and more engaging than the Souls series.
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>>367579632
>I loved it at the start but it falls apart as you go
So it is just like a souls game! Mission accomplished.
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So, that's Nue down and fake Tachibana taken down, then real Tachibana ahows up and yeah that's about as much fun as hammering nails in with your forehead.

I suspected it would happen and it eventually did: I moved onto the next area and after ten minutes inside another uninspired cave level with - you guessed it - pick axe Yokai and the occasional Oni, I shrugged, switched the game off, deleted the save and breathed a sigh of relief.

Somewhere in there is a good game with solid mechanics and excellent character design, but each sweet nugget is buried beneath a stinking handful of bullshit that ultimately just isn't worth choking down.

Some are bound to argue that the difficulty makes the pay-off worthwhile and sure, in other games, I'd agree but not here. I walked away from each boss victory unable to decide if I'd actually risen to the challenge or just gotten lucky. Overwhelmingly though, the feeling was more of a 'thank fuck that's over' than a sense of reward.

The game's best parts are the levels themselves but the design, layout and art direction absolutely pale into comparison to other contemporaries, not to mention the essential brevity of each one.

The final short-coming is the overall presentation: a technically unimpressive showcase but for its lightning-fast load times, that despite the relatively small size of its environments, simplistic geometry and lack of post processing or other high-end effects is forced to half the native resolution in order to deliver a stable 60fps.

Honestly, looking at what's on display and comparing to other it's other games on the market, the compromises are genuinely hard to fathom.


Anyway, that's my mini review. I gave it a decent shot, but this one just isn't for me.
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>>367580579
I've seen this post about 4 or 5 times this week. Is it copypasta from Reddit or NeoFAG or something
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>>367580424
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>>367579632
I agree with some of this, mainly the lack of enemy variety. I still think it's a great fucking game, and I'm still enjoying it in NG+, but I think the lack of enemy variety and some boring level design, is what held it back from becoming a classic.

But still, the game has been pretty successful so far. It's selling out in a few areas. So hopefully the developers will build upon the first game and iron the issues next time. They did seem to take a lot of player feedback to heart during the Alpha and Beta, so I have to believe the sequel will be an improvement.
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>>367580424
Savage but literally true

and that includes Bloodborne
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>>367580705
You can tell it's from Reddit by the spacing. It's a thing that ends up being common on Reddit because of their formatting.
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>>367579632
I'm not done with the game yet but so far I agree with you OP. I know it might seem like a shitpost to some but the it's true. Loved it at first but then you realize that's all there is. Maybe the DLC will help a little, we'll see
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>>367580834
Wrong.
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>>367580424
Another felt this in any Souls game.
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So right now i'm trying to connect to co-op but I keep getting an error saying, connection error has occured.

My game says i'm online and I can even go into the web browser though.
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>>367580806
I have high hopes there will be a sequel with better multiplayer mechanics and enemy variety.
I assume budget is what led to the recoloring of the oni to make more enemies.
Hopefully a sequel will really flesh out on Japanese demons and stuff.
More daytime levels too. Jesus Christ, I'm more upset about constant nighttime than the repetitive levels.
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>>367580924
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Is this stun lock to win combat all rid game has to offer?
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>>367581012
No Man's Sky 2.0?
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Completely agree and I played all the demos and preordered. Liked the first half of the game and realized I didn't want to play diablo without build variety by the time I got to NG+
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>>367580424
Dark Souls 3 got 10x better in the second half of the game though
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>>367581124
No mans sky didnt even have multiplayer though
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>>367581073
So dont abuse the debuff?
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>>367581241

Dark souls 3 is actually my favorite of the 3 outside of the terrible pvp.
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>>367581297
That's my point. It was advertised that it would.
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>>367579632
I felt like it peaked at Sekigahara despite being fairly easy by that point.
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is ng+ any fun?

feels like once you have red demon armor thats green off revenants you never find upgrades
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>>367581241
10 x 0 = ??????
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>>367581350
Not him but it disappointed me how everything was balanced around PvP and the PvE was only worth like two playthroughs while the PvP was garbage. I really hope they stop pandering to PvPfags with whatever they do next. 3 was a lot better in the second half though.
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>>367581439
90% of the red demon armor I've found has been hot garbage. items cap out at level 150 so end game is about weapon autism you grind out for weapon skills to put on your arms and armor and spend your dosh re rolling stats until you make a set of gear that compliments your build.

Also doing yokai realm missions with randos in ng+ is bretty fun. Some of the bosses are more agressive and the levels have demo tier enemy layout
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>>367581561
1
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>>367581641
>DS3
>Everything is balanced around pvp

Didn't happen. Sounds like you didn't like DS3 and are looking for a scape goat to blame it on. Darn those pvp players, grrr! Us carebears just want a good game!
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>Yamata-no-Orochi
This is a brave new world of abysmal boss design.
Rest of this game is great but holy fuck who okay'd this shit
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>>367581705
> Some of the bosses are more agressive and the levels have demo tier enemy layout

Do they change that much? I really hate how easy the first playthrough is so far, my mission levels are over 100 yet it feel likes the game is still scared to throw any real groups at me even though everything but raven tengus have been a joke for I don't even know how long.
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>>367581804
Yeah its pretty lazy/boring for a final boss.

True final boss isn't much better.

GRANT US EYES
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>>367581742
That would be 10^0, not 10 x 0 you stupid cunt.
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>>367581876
Mission level is not a recommended level, but rather an estimate of the level of loot.
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the game is pretty great for being a modestly budgeted game, the glaring issues seem to be clearly stemmed from budget and time issues. people will shit on a game for not being a literal flawless masterpiece though, so whatever.

as it is, the foundation for Nioh is the foundation for a near perfect action game in my opinion. just hope Team Ninja will continue to learn and use the foundation they've made

if From could do half of what TN did with their much larger budgets we may already have had a perfect action game, but instead of building on what they know works From instead got lazy and regressed in most aspects of design with DaS3
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I now can understand why people tend to compare Nioh to NG.

> Same level design (which does not work because it's a Souls game by design)
> Same pace (it kinda works, except with high stances because it's a Souls)
> Same boss design (average height enemies are good, big are just bad, I cried when I saw the centipede, it's trash and it reminds me of that shitty worm in NG2)
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>>367582009
I know but that literally doesn't have anything to do with what I said, I can tell I'm nearing the end of the game because of the mission levels and the fact that my region menu is full and I feel like the game still doesn't want to throw more than one or two enemies at me even though it stopped giving me new ones forever ago and this is one of the reason's why people are burning out of their first playthroughs.
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>>367582372
I totally forgot about the literal shit centipede.
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>>367582298
>people will shit on a game for not being a literal flawless masterpiece though
Something should be flawless if it's $60 USD
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>>367581025
Dangerous yokai don't often come out during the day.
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>>367581876
Nah its not a major difference. Things are upscaled so they hit you harder but you will seldom encounter a challenge of more than two oni at once. Occasionally two oni and a goon or an archer.

I think the hardest thing I've encountered so far was two of the fire wheel guys. That was not a fun time. But if you dont have the autism to grind for armor and weapon upgrades it wont hold any water for you
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>>367582372
>it's a Souls game by design
t. I never played Onimusha
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>>367582465
there has literally never once been a case where that standard has held true, so maybe that's just your extremely optimistic opinion
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>>367582482
>wheelmonks in tight quarters when they get the jump on you
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>>367582573
Should doesn't mean it has happened. It still should.
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>>367582598
>do the old flip & switcheroo
>pop it in the ass once
>10 seconds of free monk anal
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>>367582738
Decent looking game.
There needs to be options to turn off all that damn bullshit on the HUD.
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>>367582598
>1kat low stance can literally teleport behind you and unzip katana

Wheelies stopped being a problem for me once I got this
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>>367582538

>Onimusha

Outside of its context, I can't see how it is closer to Nioh than Dark Souls (haven't played it in 15 years though). I mean, as far as I remember, it was feodal BTA Resident Evil.
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>tfw Nioh 2 won't probably come out until 2019

Why is almost every game these days "a solid foundation for the next game." I just want a good game to play now damn it.
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>>367582413
Oh, well I'm just a retard. There are some spots in one of the later levels where it throws shit like a tengu and a cyclops at you.
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>fighting water slug boss
>getting fucked
>decide to summon someone to help
>first guy dies by the charge beam attack
>second guy falls into water
>third guy went out of the way to fight an extra demon and died
>fourth guy leaves halfway through the fight

Jesus fucking Christ and I thought I was bad
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are there any weapons that have a grab? Enemies keep block spamming and its really slowing combat down
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>>367583806
Some of them might just be tired of doing that fight. 9/10 times I get summoned for it.
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>>367579632
>The story is mediocre at best, frustratingly pointless at worst. There's missions where you go out of your way to accomplish literally nothing, and it just feels like they ran out of ideas

Most of the story missions are based on fictionalized-but-real events from Japanese history.

It's Koei-Tecmo dude.

It's what they do.
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>PS4 turned itself off when I loaded up Nioh

Should I be concerned?
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sup nier shill
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>>367584032
Even your PS4 knows it's best if you just don't play.
Take its advice.
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It's not bad but I just got back into bloodborne so I've been playing the DLC which is so good. That blob boss was a pain too.
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>>367584032
>PS4
Replace thermal paste and clean the fan immediately, that piece of shit has terrible cooling. Yes, all of them.
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>>367583503
People are still learning how to do HD games without them being tech demos.
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>>367580829
BB manages to keep up for the entire game, I found. I thought it got more interesting near the end, but maybe that's because I left the DLC for last.
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>>367584032
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>Using greentexftwrongly
Spotted the redditor.
Fuck off.
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>>367584463
Fuku's ass is way too big
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>>367584463
>all that filthy magic
For shame, Hanzo.
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>>367580424
To this day the only game that I didn't take a huge break before beating was the first. I got 2, 3, and BB on the first day, played for 60 hours, got burnt out and finished them over a year later. Although I have Plat on BB and I'm 3 trophies away in the 2nd.

3 I'm still at ocelotte.
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Any tips for getting no damage on Great Centipede?

Shitter just keeps coming at you head on with an attack
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>>367584682
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>>367584393
HD development was a fucking mistake. It feels like the talent pool for game devs got smaller for every step we took towards HD games.
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>>367582372
I got a little bit of a dynasty warrior vibe to with how that over map is and some other minor things.
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>>367584741
Block the head on, unless that doesn't count.
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>>367584778
It's just that everything takes for fucking ever to do because of the scale of the games at this stage.

You could make a game that plays better than 90% of titles release in the last year back in the 90s with like less than 20 people. Less than 10 people probably.
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>First week
>Rock the Ii clan with the armor in tow
>Second week
>Kato clan and 100 tank build
>next week
>Planning on going luck build with Murakami clan and pirate armor only

Is there any down side to constantly switching clans like this?
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>>367583806
I had no trouble dodging that one shot laser solo but it's a bit tricky to do it co-op since you almost can't tell on which direction the blob is about to fire the said laser.
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>>367584761
you can tell the look of disgust on William's stern Irish face whenever Fuku is around. that's why he goes for the 12 year old boy Okatsu instead
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>go to help people for the umi-boze fight
>5 people in a row get instantly taken out by the water cannon at the start of the fight

whadda fuk
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>>367584991
Don't insult androgynous flat-chests either.
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>>367584876
the stats a clan offers gets increased the longer you're with them, and I think you lose out on the rewards from clan battles. not sure about that last thing though
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>>367584876
You miss out on glory.
So no.
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>>367585119
both extremes are bad
which is why Tome is perfect and also my wife!
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>>367584914
>host and I are on opposite sides
>umibozu is doing its mega laser startup
>can't go left because there's a wall
>move towards the center a bit
>"you have parted ways with anon"
FUCK
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>>367585303
Luring that laser cannon away from squishy hosts is a full-time job.
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>>367584741
use living weapon and hit him until he dies

>>367583806
that fight is far easier than it looks. use a fire talisman and run right up to him and beat his ass in low stance. his arms can't hit you when you're close and he telegraphs the beam and the bubble shit enough for you to just dodge out of the way. if you aren't an imbecile you can knock off two thirds of his health before he hits phase two which normally triggers at half. then when he hops into the center activate living weapon and finish him.
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>>367585672

If he hits me during living weapon won't that negate the challenge?
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>>367585750
Not him but the real challenge of centipede is hoping his dumb ass doesn't glitch into the level forcing a respawn.
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>>367585750
far as i can tell 'getting hit' means losing health, seeing as how i've no-hitted multiple bosses doing exactly that
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So what's the best combat Guardian Spirit? Taking into account their summon attacks as well. Paired Raiken is always a hot favorite, but Tengen Kujaku and Atlas Bear seem really good as well.

Atlas Bear let me cheese Kelley really easily, took a third of his health with 3 talismans.
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>>367586098
Atlas bear.
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Who Sloth-free here?
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I hope I'm not the only one who thinks the side missions are absolute trash in this game. Seriously some of the worst I've ever played.
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>>367586347
I'm free of all onmyo. That shit's easymode.
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>>367586347
I asked for a Sloth nerf in surveys from Alpha, and they haven't done it

Granted, they moved it to tier 3, instead of keeping it tier 1, but it's still as OP as it ever was

Full ninjutsu here though, 60 dex, no regrets
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>>367586347
I was until NG plus, now I can't help it. I pray they nerf it just a little like they did to my man infinite LW.
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>>367585303
>>367585395
>Not just blocking it when he shoots the water beam
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>>367581241
Dark Souls 3 is the opposite. Starts weak and ends strong, all other soulsborne start strong and end weak. Except 2. Quality is all over the place in that one.
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>>367586637
Something tells me that would work out not so well for my build.
Nice hair, faggot.
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>>367586530
>no regrets

I cant talk myself into ninjitsu there is literally nothing in the entire tree worth having other than more ammo
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>>367586637
I have enough health and natural resists that I can usually get away with running into one on purpose and living. The host doesn't.
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>>367586696
It's all utility, if you don't need anything but your weapon that's completely fine
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>>367586696
Using the disappearing act stuff is fun.
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>"finished"
>hasn't completed Way of the Strong

Lol, it adds new enemies to levels along with bosses being much harder. It's the real game for all intensive porpoises. Everything is just a warmup
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>>367586787
But its not urility kunai and shuriken have no use outside of knocking down the 1 aerial enemy in the game and 1 aerial boss. If they'd make kunai do top notch ki damage if they hit enemies mid attack it would be cool. But nothing in Ninjitsu seems particularly useful or worth the stat investment
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Is there a list of enemies who drop smithing texts?
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>>367586836
>intensive porpoises
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>>367586347
I've been tempted but I've stuck to muh guns and only use defense down at worse, but I usually pair it with carnage so it balances out. Gotten a lot of "Crusher" titles this way because one shot and I'm dead
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>>367586969
Folks like you are a diamond dozen.
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>>367586985
>not putting ten points into magic and exclusively using the talisman to summon your spirit

If shiggy can do it, I can do it
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>>367586961
pretty much anyone that has a set or weapon exclusive to them can drop the texts for their gear
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>>367586901
Kunai are just "ki finishers", if the enemy is low on Ki and forced you away from them, you throw it. That's why you get a combot move of two in a row, since if one didn't do it, two will, and if two didn't do it, it wasn't the right moment to throw them

Other utility includes the stealth approach with Catwalking and Suppa scrolls, as well as the second chance one

Otherwise, ninjutsu is all about explosives, traps and poison/paralysis if you're looking for damage
Poison if you feel confidant being always close and constantly refreshing the duration
Paralysis if you're good with timing your hits, since a paralysed enemy is treated as unalerted, and a backstab can be initiated, or a heavy strike (iai strike etc.)

If you like playing the long ranged meticulous game, spread your caltrops, lure them into your mines and bombard them with granades while you're at it
Heck, throw in a poison/paralysis egg for good measure

The game is as interesting as you make it
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>>367586901
I found poison shuriken to be really useful. You're gonna need to be packing at least 6 shuriken to get decent mileage out of it though.

Or if you don't have an element on your weapon, the poison coating for your weapon is great too. Paralysis in comparison is pretty bad.

Makibishi is pretty good, bombs are good if you are keeping your distance, but overall I agree— Onmyo is so much better than Ninjutsu, it's ridiculous.
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>>367587346
I said at worse. I have spirit talisman because it's not cancer. Also 40+ points in spirit due to weapon scaling to over 1k with it
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>>367587461
>Weapon scaling to over 1k

The fuck weapon are you using?
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>>367586901
>>367587449
For people thinking Kunai don't do damage they've clearly not built their character well. With the mystic art and something like 50dex along with shadowround scrolls and the bat spirit you can chain throw kunai for around 700 a pop infinitely once you have the iga set and use shadowround scrolls.

Throw out some makibishi and watch as the game turns into a 3rd person shooter.
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>>367586493
Yeah I feel like this shit would be way harder without any of that, sloth is the biggest offender but there's tons of shit in onmyo that completely breaks the balance it feels. I'm probably gonna have to do some 1kat no magic play through sometime.
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It's definitely a game that needs more enemy types but I enjoyed it overall. I might go do a second play though down the line.
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>>367587589
>In ng+
>never used a ninja build
>But have a full set of green iga gear
>And like 6 pieces with 'infinite ninjitsu' attached to it

Might make a cheese build and mess around with kunai spam soon
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>>367587547
The divine kusanagi you get for beating Orochi. Scales A+ with spirit. Also soul matched it though so it's 150+2
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When the fuck do I rescue Tome's grandfather? I've been saving these fucking patronage points until I get him like one anon suggested a while back and I just got to the 4th region, but there's no sign of the old motherfucker.
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>>367587547
Pretty much any weapon will get close to 900 at base divine level, so it's not too crazy to see a weapon with bonus scaling hit 1k+. However, now you have people running around with 320 divines with 2.5k+ which is beyond overkill, the sheer damage output gets ridiculous.
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>>367587914
you're almost there. he's in a submission in that region
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>>367587914
So the first bathhouse submission. On The Trail of the Master, I think.
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>>367587951
Shit like this and the general layout of the game make me wonder how the dlc is going to function. I can see a lot of people being completely overpowered for it, or worse case scenario you have to start a new game or some shit to expereince it fully.

Then again I suppose you could de-level yourself and not use your gear, but what's the fun in that?
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>>367587951
I'm at 700 with a decent sword. Dont know where you are getting those numbers

>320 divines

But ilevel doesn't go past 150..
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>Muramasa cameo
>no fucking Haysbusa clan mention
>can't even get any weapons or armor from NG series

KT FUCKING DELETE THIS
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>>367587914
>increases patronage when you spend money
>doesn't increase when you rescue her fucking relative
Tome please you materialistic whore
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>>367588093
>he doesn't know

its honestly probably a glitch but still interesting, there's people getting stuff from 190 all the way to 300
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I have a weird anxiety about resetting builds in the this game for some reason.
Every time I want to switch to a different weapon, I need to rethink my stats. I just never know what's right in that regard.
1kat and 2kat build is fucking easy, but once you start doing other combos, it's not as simple. I just got sick of doing 1kat and 2kat because 1kat gets boring.
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>>367588070
but what's the fun in that?
the challenge maybe?
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>>367588230
It probably isn't desu. 320 is the mission cap in NG+ so once you progress far enough you'll probably start seeing gear that's above 150
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>>367588230
Must be access to the ilvels restricted for the DLC packs

How do I do this?
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>>367588315
Meant more it'd be bullshit to have to gimp yourself to enjoy the dlc. Who wants to actively depower the character and gear they've worked for to make the content worthwhile?
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>>367588006
>>367588051

Thanks, anons. I feel like I'm also missing Magatama, as I've only gotten that first mission to find one. I've done everything in the first and second regions and the third one only has the two missions that popped up after the last main mission hit me in the feels.
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>>367588392
Dont see how that is a thing. Your actually attributes dont matter as much as the gear and the gear will almost certainly be going up with each DLC pack
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>>367588361
Apparently beat the Tower of London 320 mission, then craft a fuckton of swords and pray/savescum.
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>>367579632
Yes, it fell extremely short of expectations.

I was at least expecting the story to be interesting, but it's really fucking mediocre

Really disappointing coming from the Ninja Gaiden dev
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Any niggas wanna help with DungBro Samurai? Y'know, the shitter in the castle with the +60 health regen rocks around him.

Pass is 2THICC

:3
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>>367588652
>Ninja Gaiden
>Interesting story
What the fuck are you talking about?
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>>367588652
Nioh story is fine desu. I don't know what people were expecting
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>>367579632
I felt the opposite
>First half besides Muneshige is kinda bland/too easy
>Game gets super fun with Seki battle with ghost boss/Shima
>Giant boss and level were shit
>Ishida and Ishida level were fantastic
>Everything after this besides maybe the Kelley fight were great.

Id give it a solid 8/10 so far and playing through a WoS mission was pretty fun even though Nue was fucking damage sponge it forced me to learn a strategy that i feel like will work 100% of the time now.
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>>367579632
kas has 1 set as far as i know, head ninja set.
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>>367588652
>I was at least expecting the story to be interesting, but it's really fucking mediocre
>Really disappointing coming from the Ninja Gaiden dev

Was Ninja Gaiden a pinnacle of storytelling?
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>>367588936
It was revenge that's all I remember
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Any recommendations on how to build 2kat/1kat character?

Do you dump all on Skill+Heart+Spirit or is there an optimal distribution?
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>>367588652
>I'm not interested in sengoku Japan
>why don't I like this story wtf???
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>>367589037
Just hit 25 on spirit at some point and put 20/20 in heart and skill.

Game shits levels at you so you really can't fuck up.
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>>367579632
1. I agree its the game weakest feature at the moment. Hopefully when the DLC hits it has a bunch of enemies and they sprinkle them with a update to regular missions
2. Disagree i felt levels were varied. Any tight area is next to a large one besides parts of the last levels first half allowing you to kite enemies there. It also helped test your spacing and to see if you weren't just turtling all game and dodging every two seconds.
3. The story was mediocre from Williams perspective but i feel like it captured alot of Jap histories strongest men in that war perfectly
4. Levels were 10/10 honestly the issue was enemy variety dragging them down. They beautiful with alot of turns and hidden paths
5. Yeah but fuck shitters who didn't roll 1Kat/Axe
6. I feel like bosses in the second half were harder and 2-3 of the levels despite knowing the enemies through different setups at you.
7.I understand. Doesn't bother me but again its the games only weak point.

Its a solid 8/10. It could be so much more with possible updates and new enemy additions. If not its still a good game but it would disappointing to see a lack of support to improve what could be a must play game when it doesn't even need Nioh 2 to make that happen.

Despite tons of differences if i had to rank it with the Souls games id put it somewhere like

BB > Nioh = DaS1 >>>>> DaS2 DLC >>>>>>DaS2/3 who the fuck cares about them.
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>>367589162
Thanks
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>>367581241
Nah after Pontiff/Aldritch everything is rather mediocre. Lothric Castle until the library is also pretty decent.

Yhorms area is shit
Crazy fuck dragons area is short and mediocre
Both side areas are kinda shitty besides the slight nostalgia of returning to a copy of where you started the game.

If anything high wall of lothric was the best area and the game was on a downward slope that just simply went over some bumps near the 2nd half and near the end.
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>>367589037
I'd pump spirit and and put spirit scaling on both of my weapons.
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>>367588757
>>367588936

Why would you assume those two sentences are related to each other you literal mongoloids?

>>367589098
The same fucking shit that I've seen 100 times already. Game takes place in the most interesting period in human history and it has a foreigner there as a start. It could have stared a multitude of colorful characters from various nationalities but instead we got the exact same shit all these games focus on and mostly told through fucking mission briefings too.

>>367588827
Actual fucking presentation at least. The beginning of the game is complete fucking joke, doesn't explain and present the characters worth a shit, gives you literally zero reason to care.
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Can I get a hand with this nigger?

Pass: 2THICC
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>>367581804
Honestly it was doomed to fail because of Nioh not being a full on action game but being fast then Souls games.

>Not quite fast enough to handle the heads all going crazeh and stupid shit because they'd stun lock you
>Not slow enough to be a challenge

They do almost no damage and the only thing that even remotely hurt me was the final head charging into me did about 50%. Atleast the epilogue boss was pretty decent.
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>>367589502
Just parry him.
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>>367589569
yes daddy
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>>367589473
>Why would you assume those two sentences are related to each other you literal mongoloids?
Because you wrote one after the other, with no other basis other than "fell short of expectations"

You didn't specify what fells short and then mentioned story, so naturally a normal person would relate the two sentences

Sorry that we can't read your autistic, undecisive mind, anon
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so I just started way of the strong and I've noticed every single revenant seems to be wearing the red demon armor

Should I be using that set even if I'm running 1kat with heart and spirit? I have most of the warrior of the west set that I'm using but I'm not sure what I should do
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>Fighting Shima with host trying to far his Smith text
>Host dies after trying to engage him during LW over and over

Why? Just run it out or bait him by running then walking and running again and poking until he runs out stamina. Why do people play this game like every attack leaves a opening?
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>>367584441
Agreed I kind of found Bloodborne was kinda meh until after you beat rom
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>>367589771
use whatever set has bonuses you like
Red Demon is popular because it's light, has good bonuses, and is very easy to craft

it's just you'll be a shitter if you use it by extension of its popularity
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>>367589690
Yes, it fell extremely short of expectations.

I was at least expecting the story to be interesting, but it's really fucking mediocre. Really disappointing coming from the Ninja Gaiden dev

VS

Yes, it fell extremely short of expectations.

I was at least expecting the story to be interesting, but it's really fucking mediocre

Really disappointing coming from the Ninja Gaiden dev


The context is the fucking post i a replying to. You are a fucking mongoloid
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>>367579632
>The story is mediocre at best, frustratingly pointless at worst.
The story is William is trying to find Kelley and kill him to get back his guardian spirit. Everything else is brief Japanese history lessons with a twist.
The game has more story than a Samurai/Dynasty Warriors game.

>the kasurigama has 0 for example
Iga gear.
There is one dual sword set and I only found it at the ass end of the game.
Spear has like 4 and I don't believe I ever found a Axe set.
Probably because 1kat and Spear were the main weapons in that era.
>Sure they get better stats but so does the player and it kinda cancels out.
Until region 5 where everything is at least 10 levels over you and counting and things like Tengu and the bolts become common place enemies.
>it's once again just fighting the same enemies
tons of enemies ain't all it is cracked up to be. Look at the souls games for instance. Although most enemies look different every armored foe acts the same and all the unique enemies show up almost all of once and are dispatched near instantly.
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>>367589801
Really? I enjoyed the first half much more then the second. The second half without the DLC feels short and the bosses feel so weak the weight of their purpose falls short until you read up on it later on.
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>>367589787
>not being a bad enough dude to dance around Shima's living weapon like he aint shit.
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>>367581025
You talk like the game is done.
The game is getting pvp.
It has DLC coming that gives it 3 new regions, gear sets, bosses and other such shit. Can't tell you about whether or not there is new enemy types though.
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>>367580424
DeS/BB are the opposite of that, though. Sorry you've only played DaS. You're missing out.
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Anon that was struggling with Umi-bozu here, I just wanted to say thanks again, for all the tips and advice /v/ had. I managed to kill this bitch solo. And to think I actually tried summoning visitors...

So, thanks again /v/.
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>>367590157
I'm hoping to god pvp gives you preset characters with preset items and doesn't let you put william into pvp

And for the love of fuck please no elixirs.
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>>367590157
>PVP

They didn't give a single fuck about balancing PVE what makes you think PVP is gonna be any good?
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>>367590258
You're welcome friend
love you
more miku dlc when
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>>367581025
>Daytime levels
But then they'd need a pallet other than dark blue and occasional torch.
Daytime Japan is too pretty for the gaming pallet, lotus blossoms and all that.
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>>367589509
I liked his design and "story", but I didn't even get hit once on my first try. You could assrape him all day and there was nothing stopping you from doing it, except the eyes he spawns later but they are easy to dodge and destroy.
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>>367589502
Here is a tip. Pick off two of the crystals you can hit from two different angles.
Then go into the fight and run directly to the huge crystal and living weapon it it death.
He dies right along with it.
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>>367589502
Are you a dumb baka? Destroy the fucking crystals, don't fight him
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>>367590280
It will probably do the same shit it does to you when you fight a dojo mission.
3 elixirs and wooden weapons.
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>>367580424
only dark souls 1 gets worse towards the end.
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>>367590774
Demons - good all the way through
DS1 - half finished game
Ds2 - bad all the way through
DS3 - slowly gets better and better.
BB - standard quality across the board with some dips her and there.
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>>367590852
>slowly gets better and better
Undead Settlement is the only high point of DaS3
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should i stick with a good armor set when i find one with desirable stats and just keep it upgraded rather than mixmatching shit?
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Am I the only one who's character sometimes starts to slide left when you're zooming in with ranged weapon? I've literally fallen of the map once because of this.
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>>367590973
don't soul match anything until you're at endgame. it's an unnecessary waste of resources

until you're at NG+ just be ready to replace armor and weapons frequently. the stats on them aren't necessary to get through the game
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>>367590973
Once you go into ng+ you'll have to scrap it for divine tier armor. Your choices will be...

>Use an armor set that has bonuses which jive with your build but have 1-3 skill slots occupied

or

>Use armor outside of an armor set, thus getting no boons but having an additional 1-3 skill slots and the option of tweaking weight
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>tfw /v/ tricked you into thinking Umi-bozu wasn't going to be fun
You guys are fags. Nothing better than exploring the level enough to light all 3 bonfires, setting your 2kats on fire, and using the high-stance L1+Triangle rapid slashing attack. It was pretty easy, and the only thing challenging was if he shooped his woop immediately when you enter the arena, but it was pretty fun. Hino-enma and Nue were much better, but still, Umi-bozu bretty gud
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>>367589881
Ahh I see. I can't say I'm not interested in trying super light armor, but what about the set bonuses are so good?

with the way of the west set, I get a huge bonus to damaging electrified enemies but that kind of makes me have to use the raikiri even though I have a stronger katana
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>>367591097
>>367591195
ok, thanks guys. i like the game but i'm a retard and hate any form of math and all the loot gives me a headache.
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>>367581241
Yeah, but thr game has the least replayability of the 3. The longsword weapons are just too good to not use and the other weapons don't have a feeling of risk-reward that make them interesting to use. For the many, many faults that dark souls 2 had, the combat variety gave it enormous staying power, whereas ds3 felt like combat itself was an afterthought
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>>367590338
hopefully soon
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>>367591224
the red demon set does that but with burning enemies instead and again it's much lighter WotW set

if you like the lightning then WotW is fine though. And there are similar set effects for every element except wind I think
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>KT makes a Monster Hunter clone with enemies inspired by Japanese lore
>KT makes a Souls clone with enemies inspired by Japanese lore, and with a focus on autistically looking for loot
>KT didn't just make a Souls-like game with MH-like bosses who drop items for crafting or something
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>>367579632
>and spend the rest just repeatedly fighting the same mobs you know the entire moveset to already

They gain moves as you go along. by region 3 Yokis were doin charge attacks with splash aoe and the amrita variants were tossing elemental magic at me
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>>367592580
KT have nothing to do with this game. It's Sony through and through supporting Team Ninja.
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>>367593016
Oh that's probably true. I just assumed Team Ninja was always KT, which I guess makes little sense, as I know Team Silent left Konami when it became Team Siren, so I don't know why I thought a dev team HAD to be part of its main parent company.
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>>367592867
that's about it, though
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>>367591224
You could always reforge one of the bonii on your better katana into lightning damage. That's what I did when I was wearing that set and outgrew my current Raikiri.

Also, anyone have tips on how I can into spear? I'm a Kusarigama main, through and through, but I just cannot seem to get a handle on how to use a spear effectively.
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Is this the Dragon God / Bed of Chaos of the game?
I can't fucking kill it.

>Shockwave foot stomps that encompass x4 times the range they really should
>Unblockable rotation attack that hits the ENTIRE AREA and has no safe spot
>If you manage to dodge through the first one then you're lucky to escape the next rotation

Been breezing through this game so far and hit a complete wall here. What the fuck
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>>367594070
i thought it was one of the shittier bosses yea
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>>367593889
>Move out of enemy's range
>Poke
>Move out of enemy's range
>repeat

There's nothing to it really.
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>>367579632
>complains he knows all the enemy moves
>complains areas won't let him doge
>Japanese feudal era is too Katana centric

Yeah more Yokia would be cool, but the games still funner then most shit and has that intense combat I crave. I'm sure they did the most they could with the resources/time they had. That's more then you can say for most games lately.
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>>367594386
>playing like souls
Spear (and every weapon) has tons of great skills and viable options. just because you can play like a complete shitter and still win doesn't mean you should
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Honestly the problem with the story is it being bogged down by trying to be historically accurate
Which leads to characters having little depth and guys showing up to just explain their part of history, like the entire bit with Yasuke was an absolutely flat bit with no actual characters
Honestly I wish they just stuck with slapping in the names like William and Hanzo but let them be their own characters
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>>367594070
>>367594204
Okay, I just killed the fucking thing and did not have fun doing it.

>Stand on second level to bait any variation of his hand slam attack
>Be sure to do as much damage as possible to it and only one weak point at a time so an opportunity isn't wasted
>Once your support has immobilized it immediately run up to the top most level and get your LW active, the glowing rings allow it to regen while it's active as well as not
>WHACK AWAY AT HIS HEAD AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE
>Dodge his hand slam attack and get some more hits on his other hand and repeat the process for the other hand
>Once the hand weakpoints are gone, focus on the feet and repeat

Since I can't dodge or block those rotation attacks, I just drink up elixirs since he kills the mobs he spawns doing the attack as well.
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Would you say it's worth it equipping a secondary weapon you normally don't use for set bonuses?

I'm super into ninjutsu, and in the second Way of the Ninja-mission at the dojo you get two pieces of a set, a headpiece and a katana.
I can't remember the 2-set bonus but I remember it being good, but the problem is that I'm specced into dual katana and spear.

I don't really use my spear though... so is it better to just equip the katana to activate the set bonus instead even if I have 0 points into 2h katanas?
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>>367579632
t. conquered
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>>367594670
Honestly I like the two weapons to give you something to use when your main doesn't cut it but the three styles alone usually make it through most situations with one weapon
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>>367581308
then you have to poke with a spear wan mirrion time because of hp bloat
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>>367590331
>2v2
>all your williams
we gundam now
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This fucking Yuki-onna is brutal.
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>>367595075
Keep a distance. She isn't that aggressive.
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>>367594617
yeah i didnt enjoy it one bit. ended up just stacking damage buffs to get it over with super quickly
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>>367595249
my favorite is when she uses that INSTANT dash stab stylish animation attack 10 times in a row and I get hit 10 times in a row because who the fuck does it more than once
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>>367595249
Bullshit she isn't aggressive. She fucking spams projectiles and then when you get close she spams aoe.
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Anyone else think the just looks bland and washed out?
Like not even the resolution, but all the textures look like garbage.
Don't even get me started on the AI
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>>367595450
>instant
it's not, and to avoid it you simply walk backwards a bit
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>>367593016
>>367593664
Team Ninja is a part of KT you morons
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>>367595646
looks good on the pro. some patchy spots but overall pretty nice, some levels a lot more than others

most armors and weapons are very nicely detailed too and great character models
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>>367579632
You can't please everybody.
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>>367595605
She's not aggressive at a distance.
She'll either walk to you slowly, prepare an easily dodged ice attack, or sprint.

You'll have plenty of time just lining up ranged shots at her.
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>>367595952
Yeah, forgot to say the Armor looks great, but I've been playing in action mode on the regular ps4 and so far mostly everything looks like a ps2 game
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HOW MANY TIMES DO I NEED TO GRIND OTANI TO GET HIS FUCKING SMITHING TEXT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>367584032
>>PS4 turned itself off when I loaded up Nioh

WTF this happened to me twice already. Never happened before, only with Nioh.
The first time it turned off just as i beat the centipede and the second time it happened when i started the game.
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>>367596124
Yeah another thing I hate about this game is the grinding
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>>367596054
that's because its at 720p
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>>367596054
yeah, it's unfortunate. at least the load times are really fast to compensate and at least there are some options
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>>367584741
Use poison and paralize resistance gear. Block the head, attack a few times and repeat
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>>367579632
just finished it too
what's up with the gay backstreet boys song during the end credits?
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I hope the DLC adds sets for the weapons that are not katanas and spears. I get that the kusarigama was considered a "ninja weapon," however, that doesn't mean we can't get at least a second set to give us something to work with.

Hell, make a set that doesn't even have a main weapon as part of the item list. Give it some decent bonuses, then make the final perk have multiple ones that depend on what weapons you have equipped. I'm actually kinda surprised they didn't do something like this with "Benkei," as his whole shtick was collecting weapons from people he beat.
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Can someone give me some advice.

I'm mainly using a Kusarigama so I've been going via Ninja build.

Things is I don't know what to level now.

The only stats that I've leveled are

Body 12
Skill 15
Dexterity 25
Spirit 15 (For Aya Komori. I think it's a good spirit for a Kusarigama build)

So yeah again, my questions are:

>What stats should I be concentrating on?
>What is a good sub weapon?
Right now I'm using a sword because of the Iga set or something that I suddenly got from Hanzo. I don't know how long I can use it before another good armor pops up.
>Can I actually get more skill points to fill out a certain weapons skills?
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>>367581797
I isn't say it was well balanced fuckboy, just that they tried to.
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Does omyo magic speed up stack?
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>>367582298
DS2 and DS3 were pretty phoned in considering From willingly sold themselves to Kadokawa and the only thing stopping the finality of the sale is their contract with Namco. 3 in particular feels like they just painted by numbers and given that it's the most complete and also unremarkable of the last five games they've done. Whatever they make next will at the very least be far more inspired regardless of completion or quality.
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>>367581025
Holy shit yes, I was actually upset when I played the holy mountain level and wished there was more like it, by far my favorite
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>>367596859
You should be evenly levelling all of the other ones except Dexterity and Magic if you don't plan on using Ninjutsu or Onmyo, Spirit only if you want to use something later than Aya Komori. Later on you won't be able to use any of the decent armour you find if you don't have high enough Stamina etc, you'll be stuck with trash tier armour.
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>>367596859
I'm also using kusarigama exclusively. I put heart at 15 because I notice the jump between 10-15 is bigger than the jump between 15-20, so 15 feels like a good place to stop.

I've got dex at 30 and now I plan on putting a few more points into magic as some of the talismans are pretty useful. You get HP just from levelling up so you don't really need to pump body. You get more skill points from strength/skill but if you only use kusarigama then you don't really need the extra, you get a bunch from weapon proficiency etc. Don't touch stamina. The stamina increases from pumping heart are not worth it, it's only like 160-ish stamina at 30 or 40 heart.

Farm Hanzo until he drops the texts for his set and weapons, then you don't ever need to use anything else and instead just forge new versions of the same gear. You do however, need to farm the spider stage for the spider leg husks. Good fucking luck with that.
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Are there enemies worth using water sword on?
Everytime I use it, the enemy gets knocked away a little outside of range.
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big enemies with no ki
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really cant find a lot of matches through torii gate in way of the strong
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>>367583806
>decide to summon someone
You are a part of the problem.
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>Load into the easier Twilight Mission
>The first thing I see this
Uuuhhhh, this looks promising.
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*summons you*
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>>367599515

The guy telling others how to play is calling someone part of the problem. Thats rich.
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>>367599563
*watches you get lasered by Umi twelve seconds into the fight*
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Whats the best gesture to use when a host dies?
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>>367599898
harakiri because you allowed your master to die
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>>367583806
Don't bother summoning on that boss, it's actually easier to do it solo if you know what you're doing.

Light all three bonfires, but don't use them to light you weapons, instead equip and use fire amulets and fire masks (I used 3-4 to down the boss, they do like 1-1.5 k damage each time). Use fast weapons (2kat low stance, 1kat low stance, kusarigama low stance) to quickly apply the fire debuff once the boss resurfaces. Hug the boss from the front and just smash quick attack, don't worry you won't fall into water as long as you're just attacking and not walking forward (tilting stick forward). When the boss throws shit at you just side step and continue quick attacks. When the boss uses beam, sidestep to avoid and attack the weak spot.

On phase two simply circle him waiting for him to jump upward and as soon as he lands dash in, use mask and dash out before he does the aoe around him.

The fight is pretty easy once you learn his patterns, I was struggling with him (I'm anon from >>367590258), and I just now managed to get Umi-Bozu Crusher (get a kill without getting hit) on my second run.
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>>367599898
Clap is never not appropriate.
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>tfw doing menu stuff right next to a shrine
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So is it better than Bloodborne?
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>>367600325
kodamas are CUTE
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>>367600508
BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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>>367600779
kodamas are NOT niggers
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>>367600382
no

but a lot of things aren't

doesn't make it bad
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>>367600382
Some aspects of it are, but oh the whole, nah.

Still really good, though.
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>>367600828
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Kodamas are for FUCKING!
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>>367600828
They're the niggers of spirits.
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>>367586347
BB taught me to dodge
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>>367601091
absolutely not!
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>doing the twilight mission with a random
>progressing through most of the level
>host backtracks to explore I guess
>dies to a spider falling his head
Well. Okay.
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>>367579632

Yeah, disappointed in the enemy variety as well as the amount of cave levels.

Much funner than fighting always swinging enemies of Dark Souls 3 or Bloodborne.
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>>367584032
>>367596271
>Playing game
>PS4 starts spitting out my disc

>PS4 is off
>Turns itself on to spit out disc
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>>367601959
There was a shrine in there during the alpha. Figured it'd still be there if the other shrines were in the exact same place.
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Why don't you get unsummoned when beating the boss
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>>367602173
You return at the end of the mission. Nue is just a midboss.
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>500 unique 1kats
>1 of the others
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>>367602173
So you can pick up any sweet loot on the ground
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>>367602289
>tfw can't steal loot from host for that true Diablo 2 experience
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>>367589502
pop a living weapon and smash his crystals. You win when all 3 are destroyed.
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>>367579632
So you're saying it's a mediocre exclusive hyped up by sonyggers and pcucks just like Bloodborne then?
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>>367602286
There's only 1 viable unique ninja and ohmyoh mage set, if I recall correctly.

Every other set is for fucking samurai.
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>>367602515
Go have your little flamewar somewhere else.
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>>367590234
>DeS/BB are the opposite of that
What the fuck are you on about? The latter half of BB is fucking awful compared to the first half, not to mention the bosses take a sharp dip in quality towards the end, although it still has a good final boss.

4/5 of Demon's Souls Archdemon's are completely crap fights. It's kind of hard to divide Demon's Souls into "halves" other than that given you can do pretty much everything in any order.
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>>367594576
I was hoping the story would be a little more silly and tongue in cheek. The part where Hanzo shows up speaking engrish and pulls out his cat is ridiculous I thought it was going to set the tone for the rest of the game.

Instead it was a pretty cut and dry historical fantasy with 2d characters that feels more like a backdrop to give the gameplay context, rather than a compelling story in itself. Which is fine since it's better to do that then to shove a mediocre plot in your face. But the story could've been handled better.
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>>367588357
nope its a glitch. I farmed 320 missions all day with luck 280 and did not get any item above 150 many 150+6-+7 items but never 320 items.
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>>367602173
To pick up loot and do your goodbye gestures.
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>>367602781
I had no hopes for any decent or enjoyable story for the game before I bought it.
Then the jail intro had me intrigued.
Then it went down again after Soirshe gets taken and acts like I should care.
Then up again during that Hanzo scene when I thought it was going to be a bit campy.

Overall, a polarizing experience.
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>>367602937
>>367602781
A little camp would've been fun.
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>>367603007
Still had some enjoyable scenes.

>William's comments on the fake Ieyasu and his spirit
>"Oh, so you're a common drunk."
>"I don't care!" "WHAAAAAAT"
>Dungball man in general and his shit based insults when you try to hit him
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The game needed the writing and voice acting of the old Dynasty Warriors games
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>>367603007
There's plenty of campy stuff in there.

Kelley and John Dee immediately spring to mind.
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The games biggest weakness by far is the enemy variety
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>>367588230
I need to know how
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>>367603182
Wasn't Nioh supposed to be a movie at one point? I can see TN wanting to take the story and make it a little more camp, but maybe there was some dispute and they decided to stick to the original, more serious plot.
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>>367603253
good thing it doesnt have the gameplay of dynasty warriors
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>>367603682
visiting previous levels almost makes it feel like it
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>>367603510
The game was originally to be a multimedia project based around a half finished Kurosawa script that was completed by his son and Kou Shibusawa, consisting of a PS3 launch title and a tie-in film. The film was outright canned and the game went in and out of development hell for years before being handed off to Team Ninja in 2010 after the KT merger and publicly resurfacing at Tokyo Game Show '15. Originally it was developed internally by Koei/Omega Force and was to be a weird kind of SRPG/Mosou hybrid that was canned when they couldn't figure out how to make it gel properly. Team Ninja also had an aborted version that made it into alpha, but was canned when Shibusawa saw it and deemed it just too similar to Ninja Gaiden. The final version began development around 2012.

The script was scrapped and completely rewritten, the only thing being kept was the protagonist being a blond samurai, which the dev team felt was visually striking. Kurosawa's version was set in the mid 1500s and centred around a mixed-race Eurasian samurai named Oni, whereas when that was scrapped, Shibusawa, who was a big fan of James Clavell's Shogun, wrote a rough frame of a new story and palmed it off on Team Ninja to flesh out into a script.
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>>367603510
I think it started as a film in 2004 based on an unused script by Akira Kurosawa before his death and Koei Tecmo were asked to make a tie in game, but the film was cancelled and KT had already put a fair bit of money into it and decided to make the game it's own thing. Then it had numerous production issues until they handed it off to Team Ninja in 2011 and ended up with the finished product.
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>>367584364
I believe that, mine has been getting louder the past few weeks, especially after getting Nioh. Its only about 14 months old and even then wasn't used constantly!
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>>367583503
>2019
>like it won't copy Niohs dev time and release in 2025
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>>367584778
Pretty much. Costs of developing HD to the quality people are "expecting" means you have huge art departments in games drawing far more funds than any other part of a game.

Which leads to publishers reluctant to invest in more experimental projects as there is a good chance they wont get as much return as an FPS or or open world shooter.
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>>367579632
i have pretty much the same experience as you.
however when i somehow found out that nioh was based on a true story of william adams going to japan and doing a lot of cool shit i got really interested in his history.
just luck at all of this shit:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Adams_%28sailor%29

im currently reading through shogun and im having more fun reading it than playing nioh.
nioh was great but i have a feeling that it will not leave a lasting impression like the original dark souls did.
i still play that and havent even bothered playing dark souls 2 or 3.
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>>367588145
He is probably a drunken, lecherous asshole who wrecks the smithy every night while doped up on sake and opium.

She probably prefers him not being there, and only asks you to rescue him out of "family honour".
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Does anyone else have a terrible habit of forgetting to block certain attacks? The moment I remember I can actually block and get out of the BB mindset, some fights like Onyudo just get so much easier
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>>367604330
>reading books
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>>367599898
>fell into hole in Umi-Bozu
>summoned player runs over and does "Oh no!" gesture into the hole

That or the Harikiri one you can buy in the teahouse, a true samurai dies with his master!
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>>367591058
Yes
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>>367604776
pleb
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>>367579632
can be a samerai, a ninja, what seems to be spell caster? I just started, can I be a karate master?
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>>367604776
Shogun's great, senpai.

Go ask Shibusawa, he'll be the first to tell you what a great novel it is. Clavell's whole Asian Saga is really good, actually.
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>>367605281

Bare handed parries are a thing in Ninjutsu and you can upgrade your barehanded damage too with a few skill points and a few random stats.
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>>367605535
what of the ki magician, can you mix that in to be all dragonball shit or is that just a weeaboo's fevered dream?
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>>367605535
Even with upgrades and stuff unarmed will only get you so far
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>>367579632
>Watch someone play through the game
>Literally looks like Dark Souls with the rolling and non-active character stance
>"Okay, I might like this if it plays the same"
>Gets to the first boss
>Fuck easy first form
>Fuck easy second form
>All this weeb cutscene nonsensical shit
>"Fuck it, I'm out"

They rushed the intro so fucking hard I still have jet lag from it
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>>367605609

I'm an axe/sword user so I haven't invested heavily into Onmyo myself, but I'm able to get replenishable talismans that set my weapon on fire. As for the rest, I dunno but I doubt you'll be throwing out a kamehameha.
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>>367605696

>Watch someone play through the game

Why?
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>Never played action games besides Shinobi and Nightshade
>Onryoki is still pushing my shit in

I can get the bastard down to his 'rastlin form, but he just taps me a little and I just drop dread.
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>>367606003
Sift through all that crap in your inventory and put on some decent armor. Gear is everything.
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>>367606003
try going heavy armor

weight doesn't affect your roll like in souls, just your stamina consumption. It just means you can attack less before having to back out
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>>367606003
Onryoki has this troublesome itch on his back that he finds really had to scratch as his arms just can't reach. If you get behind him on his left side, you could scratch it with your blade. Watch out though, he tries to swipe but it's an easy dodge into an easy pattern.
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>>367606003
Onryoki can't hit RIGHT in front of him
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>>367604691
I always have trouble with Onyudo and Raven Tengu.
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>>367606286
sloth or living weapon are your friends
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>>367579632
>In development for 10 years
>it has problems with enemy variety

What the fuck was TeamNinja doing all this fucking time?
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>>367606286
I found Lightning to be great against the Ravens, because it's basically a mini-version of Sloth and makes all their attacks piss easy to avoid.
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>>367606348
>he thinks being stuck in development hell is the same as actively being worked on
They made this game in 2 years
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>regret not farming the armored knights in the tower of london so I could play through with full knight armor cosmetic
I mean I at least got the helm I guess, but still
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>>367606594
>not going full deus vult
pleeeeeb
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>>367599631
The guy who can't kill a fucking blob and is dragging others into his own mess thinks his opinion means a thing, that's even worse
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>>367606594
nigga you don't even have to grind them to get it all.

Just by killing all the knights and opening all chests in the area you should have the entire set
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>>367579632
>Room to move is important to a game like this, where a single dodge press throws you 5-10 feet in any direction at will, but they fall back on narrow corridors and cliff-heavy areas too often
then dont dodge retard, the block button iis there for a reason
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>>367594834
then dont use spears like a fag
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>>367582372
>it's a Souls game by design
except it's not
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>>367606950
>blocking
yeah, I bet you played dark souls with havels and a shield

fucking pleb
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>>367607371
never tried going heavy armor/grratshield in a souls game except 2 i think, but not even relevant since blocking is fantastic with every weapon in this game
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>>367607473
blocking is a crutch, learn2dodge fag
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>>367607514
>not mastering all aspects of combat
get a load of this scrub
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>>367607662
t.slothfag
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>>367607514
>dodging
>not taking the damage like a fucking man
I bet you hid behind weapons like a triple pleb
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>>367607514
Tell yourself that when you're falling off a cliff
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>>367588847

Beat gigga nigga yesterday, and both the Sawayama level and his fight were fucking aces.

The only complaint I agree with is enemy variety and some of the bosses. Otherwise, it's a lot of people saying "I played for 100 hours and now I don't feel like playing anymore".

Then fucking stop playing, motherfucker. You got plenty of bang for your buck. Go do something else.
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>>367606003
>p1
>move diagonally
>go to a corner, just stand there waiting for the boss to come to you
>when he starts his swing attack, jump forward under his left arm, land 2 or 3 hits on the back and immediately jump back in case he swipes the floor
>go to the opposite corner, repeat whole procedure until you hit phase 2

>p2
>bait the boss to attack, dodge backwards, when he recovers jump forward and land 2, 3 hits then jump backwards.
>when he's about to throw the ball make sure there's a distance between him and you and simply dodge left or right
>repeat until dead

It's really simple boss, I just did no-hit kill and I wasn't even aiming for that.
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Has anyone used a Paralysis weapon?
Do they have any real benefit over other elements?
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>>367606594
>Yamata-no-Orochi
But... does the items for the tutorial carry through? I didnt see them in my inventory. Are they in storage? If so, cue my regret as well.
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>>367608010
storage
>>
FUCK THE ONYUDO FUCK
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>>367579632

You know, I was just thinking.

William takes 2 years to get to Japan, then (presumably) 3 years to get back and fight Dee. Then he goes back to Japan again, with all the stones, which should take another 2-3 years.

The man has been traveling for almost EIGHT FUCKING YEARS.
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>>367608010
YOu don't keep stuff from the tutorial but once an item has been in your inventory once you unlock it as a refashion skin at the blacksmith, so if you got the knight set once then you can make any armour in the game look like it but keep its stats.
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>>367607970
Nah.
>build up paralysis
>enemy is instantly knocked out of it if you accidentally hit them
>sometimes it doesn't even do anything
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>>367579632
I got to the second area then stopped playing. I can't get in to it for some reason despite loving the alpha etc.
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>>367608157
>YOu don't keep stuff from the tutorial
This is wrong, it goes to the storehouse.
>>
Is anyone already doing a ninjutsu barehanded run and doing just kicks and punches when they cannot parry the attacks?
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>>367607823
in the first phase he literally can't hit you if you stand right in front of him and hug him
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>>367605895
So I could do exactly what I did which was judge the game before I drop $60 on something I hate
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>>367608187
That's a damn shame.
It doesn't even proc faster or anything?
That could've made it useful if you wanted to inflict Discord.
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>>367608260
I've gone back to the first stage and doing it fists only, but I don't think it's very viable overall.
Not enough stat stacking or moveset to make a fun run.
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>>367608406
I haven't checked but less shit could resist it? Maybe I'm just doing something wrong but lightning feels better.
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>>367608487
>shit could resist it
That's a good point.
I ought to check out how well it works on a secondary weapon, if it'd activate Discord more easily, it could be worth the slot.
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>>367589473
>The same fucking shit that I've seen 100 times already. Game takes place in the most interesting period in human history and it has a foreigner there as a start. It could have stared a multitude of colorful characters from various nationalities but instead we got the exact same shit all these games focus on and mostly told through fucking mission briefings too.
oh he's retarded
>>
Okay, so just to clarify, the special effects of a weapon get boosted when you increase familiarity, right?

I'm trying to raise a kusarigama up a few levels, but despite the level going up, all the stats go down by five or so percent, and the attack drops by three
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>>367609284
Yeah. I scrapped a Raikiri that was better than mine because the bonuses were lower. Felt like a right retarded.
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>>367609284
Yeah.

When you soul match it removes familiarity, but you'll get those back to normal when you raise it up again.
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>>367608334
>it has japanese lore LITERALLY WEEB can't buy
neck yourself
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will i get better mage armor than Onmyo hunting?
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>>367608486
Can't be a ninja barehanded monk huh? well that was to be expected I guess.
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I'm stuck at weapons/spirits select page for an hour now. how good is axe in full game?

I tried axe in the demo and the damage really not impressed me compared to DS3 greataxe.

is Dual Sword+Kusarigama a good pair?
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>>367610104
>axe
for soulsbabbies that cant into anything new
>2kat
for fedora wearing memelords
>Kusarigama
for tryhard chunis
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>>367610104
Pretty much anything works, plus it doesn't matter because you get everything to try in the first level if you kill everyone.
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>>367610104
Spear / Kusarigama / Sharkbro

You'll have range, speed, and a solid debuff in the starting stages.
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>>367599553
now, all they need is a summoner guitar playing enemy there and all those swords shaking all at once.
>>
For me the end game was amazing
I loved the fight with oda and his wife
And with the nioh
They were challenging but I never felt like I died a cheap death
And when I beat them it was soooo satisfying
Plus the additional tier of loot was a great addition
I've put 80 hours into this game and I don't plan on stopping, especially since pvp will be coming soon.
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>Start doing twilight missions on Way of the Strong mode
>Absolute bastard placement of guitar guys where you can't even get to them until you fight through at least three phantoms.
>>
>>367611402
learn2stealth nub
>>
Any porn of Hino or the Flying Bolts yet?
>>
>>367611551
I dont use magic.
>>
What is the 2 top numbers in the bottom right on the map screen?
The thing that looks like a box and the shrine thingy.
>>
>>367611551
>go invisible
>muffle footsteps
>have a hat with enemy stealth at A
>they still get summoned
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>>367611704

Lowest number is your Amrita and the one above is your gold
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>>367611639
That's dumb
You should invest a little at least for element talismans and steel ones
Even oasis
I use guardian spirit, oasis, steel, fire and lightning talismans
>>
>>367611905
I know that.
I asked about the 2 top numbers.
>>
>>367602515
bloodborne is much better
>>
>>367611704
The shrine is your glory
I have no idea what the top one is
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>>367612058
The shrine is glory but I'm not sure about the other.
>>
>>367612136
Combined proficiency of your weapons.
I don't know why it's relevant but it could be some form of currency or other.
>>
Anyone wanna work on some way of the strong missions?
Psn: akirakurusu4
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>>367612058
top one is just inventory space
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>>367611950
I dont use cheap shit.
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>>367582738
i dont like that font
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>>367612496
Sloth is cheap
A buff to your defense/adding an element to your weapon? That's hardly cheap.
>>
I don't consider myself bad at dodging and defensive play in general, and have what I think is a respectable amount of ki, but I've found going through the later missions stunlocking happens sometimes regardless of my actions.
>>
>>367612496
By that logic, using armor/any weapon with an elemental effect is cheap
>>
>>367612787
What's your toughness like?
>>
>>367612938
I can't look up my stats right now, but I do roll for it on my armor and dumped my prestige points into a good amount. Maybe it's too low? I wonder if anyone has hard data for a number to shoot for.
>>
>>367613204
To be more broad then, do you rock L/M or H armor?
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>>367613315
Mainly m with a bit of light, maybe I should start upping stamina/
strength/skill
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>>367613423
Or wear a full set of light or medium armor
Get the benefits from a full set
Like warrior of the west
Get divine everything warrior of the west and use paired raiken with shima clan
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>>367613520
I'll try some more revenant farming, I just cleared Defiled Holy Mountain and I haven't tried to stick with a real gear set for a while.
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>>367582864
This, I was pissed when I couldn't find any.
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>>367613808
Wait have you beat the game yet
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>>367613853
No should I wait till I beat it for divine farming, I know I can push through without too much fuss.
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>the refashion glamour system has no preview window

who the fuck thought this was a good idea?
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>>367612803
yeah its pretty cheap if you get two of them up on a boss.
>>
Can you have multiple save files? I really want to make a new character after NG+ but I don't want to lose this character.
>>
>>367614274
>want to make a new character

Why? The game is set up so theres no reason to have more than one character.
>>
>>367614016
Yeah
Then literally farm warrior of the west for divine gear
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>>367614164
Lol no its not
It just does more damage
You're saying putting status ailments on a boss is cheap? You're a fucking moron.
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>>367614643
The boss fight? Don't you fight Tachibana and Ginchiyo in that version?
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>>367614824
When you get way of the strong (ng+) you can do the duel with him and he drops divine
But yes there's also that fight with both
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So I just saw what sloth does for the first time

They need to make bosses immune to this. You may as well be on god mode.
>>
I wish i had played one of the betas because i expected more ninja gaiden

It started out cool but it seems the further you get, the more it's yokai enemies and less humans

I don't want to fight some shitty demon thing that rolls around like a wheel

Not blaming the game though, my own fault for not researching it properly

I'm at the area after the bat boss. The one with the electric monkey dog whatever

Does it get better later or is it just even more weird yokais?
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>>367614710
Nah one debuff is fine. if you get two of them up it makes the boss stunlockable and thats no different than using god mode or living weapon. Its baby mode bullshit.
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>>367579632

Didn't buy it yet, might still give it a go when the price drops.

Thanks for the constructive opinion.
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>>367614938
You're so fucking early in the game dude
There's a lot of humans but also a lot of yokai
There's some cool human bosses including nobunaga oda but technically he's a spirit
There's a lot of yokai but also humans dude
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>>367614873
I like using spears and Enjoy as my guardian so maybe I'll aim for the Red Demon set ( or if I ever pump my stamina enough Warrior of the East). But I'll probably start with West, thanks anon.
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>>367615056
Dont lie to the man. The further you go the more overloaded you get with yokai. NG+ is nothing but an endless stream of 2 yokai + an archer rooms.
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>>367615215
Red demon armor drops so goddamn much divine
Every goddamn revenant has a full set of divine red demon gear so it's easy to get.
Also warrior of the east/raging bull is good spear sets.

>>367615264
There's still a looooot of goddamn humans
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>>367614824
Oh and it's not ginchiyo it's warrior of east and tachibana
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>>367615440
Damn autocorrect meant Enko, but that sounds like a plan for when I hit Way of the Strong. One last thing, I'm about 15 levels below the recommended level for quests but I manage without much trouble, but should I bother with the leveling grind?
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>>367583806
I get summoned for that boss often. I just pop Enko and literally melt the boss. He doesn't even get to go into his second stage. I actually feel a bit bad sometimes.
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>>367615971
Nah the "recommended" levels just show the level of enemies. You'll almost always be under that level. In ng+ many are like lvl 200
>>
>See level 175 player phantoms

I stopped at 130 when I realized levels are pointless.
>>
Is there a recommended weapon for Onmyo build? I might try it out after I'm done with my 1kat ninjutsu run.
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>>367580424
> GIT GUD
>>
>Get summoned
>guy opens mimic box
>The mimic is dressed completely different from the guy

So does refashioned gear appear for other players or what?
>>
>>367615440
>>367615264

he's being a japemaster general
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>>367617342
Onmyo works on everything. Sloth talisman is gamebreaking, you get extra heals, elemental damage, and all kinds of other good shit. If you're going for an optimal build there is no conceivable reason to skip Onmyo. Ninjutsu is shit in comparison.
>>
>>367618436
Ninjitsu is shit in general
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>>367618436

I kind of wish the bombs weren't such common drops. The other tools are handy too but I feel like a dope for packing my own bombs.
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>>367618436

Sloth aint cheap faggot. Magic builds need it.
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>>367617506
>Guy opens Mimic box
>Immediately starts attacking Mimic
So this is what edgy adhd fueled kids are like
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>>367619098

I don't have time to fuck around in the menus faggot.
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>>367618436
>you get extra heals

Huh? What skill is that? The only healing magic is the one that heals you allies i thought.
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