Just bought pic related. I heard Radiant mode is grindless one,

Radiant mode is casul mode.

>>366993236
but it is without needless grinding right? I remember the game having ungodly levels of it starting from the medium level dungeons

>>366992834
I haven't tried it yet but from the change list it looks like it just reduces the grind, the worst part of the game.

>>366992834
If you don't like the gameplay loop, why would yoy buy the game?
The "grindless" mode is just less game. If you hate the game so much you want to skip it, why not skip the whole thing?

>>366994127
You're still gonna grind, lad. There's just a few QOL changes that help you along the way.

>>366994228
>If you like something you can't ever get bored of it

>>366992834
It really needed 12 bosses instead of just the 4 3 times each

>>366994228
>The "grindless" mode is just less game
Grind is a filler, not a game.

>>366994228
I don't get this more=better attitude at all. Why would you stuff your game with filler rather than create something with a high density of meaningful content?

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>play like shit because you are bad and dumb
>lose heroes left and right
>complain about grind
>complain about RNG

Typical /v/ermin shitters from Babbyborne.

>>366994302
If you are bored, stop playing.

>>366994385
>>366994512
The "grindless" mode just has you run less dungeons before the game is over.
Running dungeons is ALL the gameplay. You are pressing the Skip Gameplay option, so you can see the credits roll faster.
If you dislike the gameplay loop so much, and Darkest Dungeon is all the gameplay loop this game has, why are you even playing in the first game?

>its filler
Its everything. There is nothing outside of running dungeons.
Its not like giving yourself more blacksmithing with the console in Skyrim. You are just skipping the game to have it end faster, because you don't like playing it.

>>366994814
>The "grindless" mode just has you run less dungeons before the game is over.
Exactly, so you don't get bored of the game before it's over. Are you starting to understand?

>>366994751
You can lose heroes through no fault of your own though

>>366994976
If you don't want to play the game, stop playing the game.
The chance of it ending EXACTLY the same moment you get bored is zero.

>>366995089
>If you don't want to play the game, stop playing the game.
But if the grind is reduced, I won't want to stop playing the game. This is pretty simple logic right here

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQLYK2KqcIk

You only need 22 weeks to finish the game on NG+

If you can't do that, then you are a royal shitter and should stick to your console garbo games instead of trying tactical PC games for adults.

>>366995183
The game isn't custom tailored to your ADHD after five teams of scientists studied you for a decade.
It will not end exactly as your interest in it ends. You are presuming a fantasy scenario, and will be back on /v/ to bitch that it was too short or too long.

When you get bored, stop playing. The game will not end the moment you get bored.
Are you new to this hobby?

>>366995294
>It will not end exactly as your interest in it ends
That's not what I'm asking for at all. Why are you confused?

>>366995238
I've seen /v/ shits argue that running short dungeons only is optimal, and that dark runs aren't worth it.

>>366995238
So you can finish the game in 22 weeks

>>366994814
The whole game is filler, then? Gotcha. Thanks!

>>366995359
>normal mode: i will get bored 30% into the game progression and quit
>casual mode: i will get bored 80% into the game progression and quit

In both cases you repeat the same gameplay loop for the same amount of time, and don't beat the game, and remain the autistic moron that you are.
This is pretty simple logic right here

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>>366995238
>console garbo
But the game's on console now, dear anon.

>>366992834
It's literally the same game except you can bounce back from losses faster.
RNG can still fuck you over and but at least you don't have to send 4 schmucks to a dungeon to restock on gold after it.

>>366995492
If you like walking, does that necessarily mean you will just as easily go for a 5 mile walk as you will a 200 mile walk?

>>366995492
All I'm saying is that in radiant mode you don't have to grind as much to finish the game. Which part are you stuck on?

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>>366995578
Dude, don't come here expecting people on /v/ to understand analogies.

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>>366995497
>But the game's on console now, dear anon.
That's not surprising.
Consolefags are starving for PC ports.

>>366995851
>all those big budget AAA games
>beaten by fucking Rocket League
Sad!

>>366995578
If you like walking for 2 miles, it doesn't matter how long the walk is, 5 miles of 5000 miles. You are still turning around and going home at the 2nd mile.

The game will never end exactly when you get bored. It will not be tailored to you and its stupid to expect that.
This "short mode" doesn't change the gameplay in any way other than making there be less of it, which is stupid, and serves nobody.

>>366992834
Pick the mode you want IT'S FUCKING OPTIONAL FOR A REASON

>>366996114
>and serves nobody
Except the people...that want...less grind! Wow!

>>366995238
>YOU CAN BEAT THE GAME IN 22 WEEKS
>BUT ONLY IF YOU SPEND THE PAST GAME OPTIMIZING THE SHIT OUT OF YOUR TEAM TO RETARDED LEVELS
AMAZING

>>366996318
There is no grind. You are calling the core gameplay grind. If you want less of the core gameplay, why are you playing the game? It features nothing other than the "grind" you wish to skip.

>>366996447
Are you saying that it's impossible for any game to have grinding?

>rpg puts a boss fight in your way that you need to be x level to beat
>grind monster encounters to get to x level, but it's not grinding because THATS THE CORE GAMEPLAY LOOP DUDE

>>366996114
You're retarded. There is clearly a difference between enjoying a match which will last for 30-60 minutes and knowing that something you join will last for 8 hours minimum. People have limited fucking time to do shit. I can enjoy the gameplay of a game but if I know it will take me a year to complete it I'm not going to bother in most cases. A novel can be good but if it's 25,000 pages most people aren't going to finish it. A movie that is 38 hours long is not something people will sit through.

People like to complete things. I enjoy Darkest Dungeon but I've never finished a campaign because the few hours a day I get to relax I split between several games or other activities. By the time I come back to the game sometimes I've forgotten entirely what my group setups were etc.

Radiant mode makes the game take shorter to completion which makes it more appealing for people who would like to actually see the ending and complete the game. It's not a fucking hard concept you moron.

>>366994228
you can like the gameplay loop and want fewer loops of it.

As it stands, it takes quite a few "loops" to get to the end game. if you want it to take fewer loops to see more content, radiant mode is your deal.

it's not a difficult concept.

>>366995492
>making up numbers to suit a new argument of "you're not going to finish it anyway"

it's still fewer loops to get to 100%. Why is this hard?

I'm not gonna use radiant mode, but if you can't see why people want it, you're likely autistic and I mean that in the truest sense. You are unable to empathize or understand situations that aren't your own.

>>366996980
>>366996784
>>366996725
>>366996680
Nigger the game won't last EXACTLY as many loops as you wanted. It will still be long, and you will still quit, and there will be overall zero difference.

>>366997407
>the game won't last EXACTLY as many loops as you wanted
>he still thinks people are demanding this

>>366997529
If this isn't the case, and the game is 8 hours longer than you wanted instead of 80 hours longer than you wanted, there is zero difference for you.
You could've selected the wrong difficulty and you wouldn't be able to tell, because in both cases you leave early.

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>>366997407
>It will still be long, and you will still quit, and there will be overall zero difference.

it will be shorter. That's the big difference. are you dumb?

no one is asking for exactly 100 loops or something, they're asking that each loop gets them further than non-radiant loops

imagine a wheel. A larger wheel goes further in 1 complete turn than a smaller wheel. Radiant wheels are larger than non-radiant wheels

if you can't comprehend that, you're hopeless

>>366997606
>because in both cases you leave early.
you're stuck on this concept that people aren't going to finish

there's no possible way you could know that, so why do you keep asserting that it's a true fact?

>>366997606
You're so focused on this hypothetical scenario you've created in your head, but that's not how it works in real life. If you play radiant mode, you grind for less time to finish the game than if you were playing the normal mode. It's literally that simple

>>366997672
>>366997743
>it will be shorter. That's the big difference.
>you're stuck on this concept that people aren't going to finish
Its only a difference if you actually finish the game.
And to finish it you will have to play after being bored, torturing yourself to see the achievement pop.
Are you a moron like that? Do you play games after you no longer like them because no reason?

>>366995025
>play well
>lose a max of 5 heroes a playthrough to bad luck
and I don't even go full autismo with team compositions or class tiers/trinket micro. the grind is real, but rng is patheticly easy to mitigate.

tl;dr - casuals don't prepare for bad rng.

>>366997816
>And to finish it you will have to play after being bored, torturing yourself to see the achievement pop.
not true

>>366997953
>not true
It is only not true if you get bored EXACTLY as the game ends, which we already said is an impossibility. The game wasn't tailored specifically for you.

>>366997816
>to finish it you will have to play after being bored, torturing yourself to see the achievement pop.
No, you grind to see the actual meaningful content, the darkest dungeon missions

>>366998032
>which we already said is an impossibility.

again, another assumption

what is your point? Radiant reduces the grind, and that's good for people that want to see the end game but don't have 2 hours a night to put into a game

>>366998097
The Darkest Dungeon missions are exactly the same as all other missions.

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>Generation Z imbeciles are used to 10-hours console garbo games
>All games must be 10h or less, otherwise /v/ermins can't handle it

Yeah.

>>366998158
The whole point is that they have some gimmick that changes things up

>>366998158
I get it

this entire time you're projecting your nihilist attitude into your argument. You think everything is pointless because you paint with broad strokes because if you didn't, you'd have to reconcile with the idea that your reductionist attitude is retarded

>>366997875
also don't activate the weird shrine until you're really ready to kick ass

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>there's people actually upset that garbage hunger system was removed

>>366998294
No, it is the same game. If you don't like the game, and think its grind, the only thing you get at the end is more of the same grind.
Now, if there was a very different type of endgame, like in World of Warcraft, where the leveling process and raiding are very different, and you can say one is a grind to get to the other, thats fine. But in Darkest Dungeon there is no distinction between the "grind" and that reward you expect to find at the end.
Reducing the "grind" only means you get to play the exactly same "grind" faster than you would otherwise, because the "grind" is out of the way... so nothing. It changes nothing.

>>366998097
>meaningful content
>random generation
>BOSS FIGHT REPEATS
>4 DUNGEONS
Yeah nice content

>>366998286
It's almost like there are...
wait for it...
MORE GAMES THAN THERE USED TO BE OR SOMETHING

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>>366992834
List me your god tier grind games ya bunch of plebs.

>>366998471
>But in Darkest Dungeon there is no distinction between the "grind" and that reward you expect to find at the end.
You didn't justify this at all

>>366998032
Hey you fucking moron, last time I'm going to comment on your bullshit, but have you considered the fact that halving the time required to spend the game might mean that people finish BEFORE they get bored, and not at that exact moment?

Since you're going full retard again and again and again I will, too. Having a 10,000 calorie meal is too fucking much for some people. It's possible to eat 1,000 calories and enjoy the fucking meal without it being the EXACT POINT at which you feel full.

>>366998594
Tony Hawk underground.

>>366998471
>story has no meaning
>setting has no meaning
>difficulty has no meaning

i dont think you understand video games

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>>366998447
>woooah it made the game so hard mommy I can't handle it plz make it more casul so i can handle it bawww

>>366995238
Sweet guy was/is such a great comic

>>366998594
>List me your god tier grind games ya bunch of plebs.

MGS V

>>366998668
Buying food is hard?

>>366998594
Legend of Grimrock 2

>>366998648
This game has no story, you see all the setting within the first few hours, and the difficulty is largely self imposed.
I don't think you understand the game you are talking about.

>>366998762
Saving food for food checks and planning your path is surely hard for local cretins.

>>366998471
>I dont like this game, so no one else should

>>366998816
DD has more story than any From Software game.

>>366998594
Cookie clicker

>>366998762
Risk-reward managing your money and inventory space is hard.
Packs laden with loot are often low on precious nutrients.

>>366998816
>This game has no story,
Not true
>you see all the setting within the first few hours,
kinda the whole point in wanting to see the darkest dungeon
>and the difficulty is largely self imposed.
this is true of every game that isnt a guessing game

>>366998873
DD has no story.

>I was bored, so I read bad books.
>I had guests over to teach me necromancy, and killed them.
>I fucked the village girl and killed her.
>I sank a fucking ship.
>I fucked the herbalist, but she got fat and I threw her out.
>My experiments merged together to form a monster.
>I dug a hole in my basement and found the stars, so I shot myself.

WOW SO STORY MUCH TOLSTOY

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>>366997875
>prepare for bad rng
>prepare
>rng
It's like I'm really on /v/

>>366998286
>these implications

But darkest dungeon is a glorified console game, that only tricks gullible retards into thinking it's hardcore because of the RNG and dork souls aesthetics

This game is 50% off.
Is it worth the price?

>>366999076
Begone, ye casual cuckold!

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>>366999039
Never pretend to be retarded, son.

>>366999076
>if I make this move, there is a 5% chance I get fucked up the ass with a pine tree
>I should not make this move, as I can get a positive outcome in another, safer way

>>366999084

Do you like Kankore?

>>366999039
>if I generalize everything enough, it will sound bad and people will believe me

also, you said there was no story, yet here you are remembering the story

which is it, anon?

>>366999076
>you cannot prepare for bad variance
that is one very apt pic related you got there anon, albeit not a in a way you intended.

Is this game as good as the new xcoms? I've been playing the SHIT out of Long War 2 and have been eyeing up a new game to take a crack at afterwards (in a month or two). But it's on sale now. Think I'll enjoy it?

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>>366998640
>>366998739
>>366998885

>>366995238
Yeah sure, that's fucking amazing gameplay how you potentially sit there for 10 hours trying to cheese some buffs on your team. Waoh.

>>366998447
Wait what? They took out hunger? Is that just in radiant mode?

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>>366999080
>roguelike has anything to do with console shit
>it's RNG!! shitter's excuse
>lovecraft has anything to do with Souls

Man I love /v/. It's always insanely easy to feel superior here after reading some posts made by imbeciles like you.

>>366999158
Wtf is Kankore?

>>366999147
more like

>I have made the best plan to prepare for bad rolls
>if shit hits the fan, I have a backup plan
>I can roll with the punches if that fails too

every board game that uses dice is risk management. It's not hard, senpai

>>366999147
Except that is not at all analogous to DD because there is no other choice but to get fucked up the ass with a pine tree because 95% of the maps are corridors. In fact, DD is painfully bad at providing options for exploration for a roguelike.

>>366999276
>mommy tell them dying on some shit boss on babbyborne is better pls!!!!!!!!

>>366999315

I actually made a mistake, I meant mobile game


also

>DD, a game with no game over
>roguelike

top wew

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>>366999080
>souls invented grimdark and mike magnolia

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>>366999490
>no game over
guess where you just outed yourself out to be?

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>retards can't utilize heroes and trinkets with skills
>retards can't properly build the hamlet and get viable upgrades
>retards can't stop losing heroes because they are fucking bad and dumb
>retards have to grind x10 times more because they are retards and shit at actually complex games
>retards need casul mode to cut on their retarded shittery to finish the game in a sane amount of time
>retards make retarded excuses about this game being RNG grindfest

Woah it's like I almost expected some BloodSHIT, Kojimbodrones and whatever Nepfags to be good at actual tactical games like Darkest Dungeon or X-Com.

>>366999662

how exactly do you lose in Darkest Dungeon?

>>366999554
Bloodborne is 99% /v/'s babby-first grimderp game so don't be surprised about it.

None of them actually read any Lovecraft's novels, watched movies or played other games influenced by Lovecraftian lore so yeah.

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>>366999686
>expecting dudebro sonyggers to operate anything more complex than a point and click shooter
this is where you went wrong anon. casuls rule the world now and in their mind they're all tactical geniuses and professional game designers.

>>366999818
>how exactly do you lose in Darkest Dungeon?
You can lose in NG+ if more than 13 of your heroes die or you fail to finish the game at ~80 weeks or smth.

>>366992834
I prefer hand of fate.

>>366999686
Let's not call others casual because you love shit RNG with 90% recycled content in all of the dungeons that all have the same gimmicks and exploration styles.

I wanted to like this game, but just can't, and that's called having good taste.

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>>366999868
>studio named after a lovecraft story
>narration written using vocabulary from lovecraft's stories
>narrator does lovecraft audiobooks
>literal abdul alhazred expy class
i refer you to >>366999662 nigger, you may stop typing now and just pull the trigger before it's too late.

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>Darkest Dungeon defence force brigade always forget to mention they have 600+ hours played

Yeah sure the game may not be too grindy or RNG heavy when you've spent the last 2 years playing it non stop and figuring out every single outcome and tabbing out to the wiki every few seconds.

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I would have finished it but the game actually forces you to grind and lose party members. Fuck that.

>>366999437
You're not making sense anymore, just stop.

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>>366999889
Yeah it's a mistake to expect /v/ to be actually somewhat developed to make right decisions in a tactical game instead of mashing QTE in Souls clones with left-right dodge and press X to win spinal cord's reactionary.

Now it starts to remind me about """RNG""" X-com shitters' posts and Shadowrun threads.

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>>367000275
>>366999889
-dips bedora-

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>>367000136
getting straw all over the place my man.

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>>366999960
>RNG

maybe you should stop being so fucking shit at this game and leave? try something casual instead, some walking simulator or another mindless souls clone game.

>>366993236
>Never Again changed: heroes are now allowed to return to the Darkest Dungeon.
name one fucking good reason why this was even a thing besides making the game more grindy

>>367000275
>Darkest Dunegon
>tactical game


this is bait right?

>>366999039
>"DD has no story"
>proceeds to mock the story that is supposed to not exist

>>367000412
Not an argument.

>>367000447
you just love sucking this mediocre game's cock so much which is more entertaining. and you think you're not casual?

Never understood the "Grind" meme. I usually have to carefully pick my party members in order to fight every boss at each level; this is with a 18+ roster.
Dungeons never even take longer than twenty minutes in the first place.

>>367000537
>make different teams to approach each DD and show that you've learned something about the game instead of doing it with a single "LE IMBA XDDD" group like an imbecile

Yeah really makes you think.

>all these casuals pretending darkest dungeon is some hardcore tactical game

lmfao go play 7,62 HC or some shit

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>>367000631
I love challenge and games like Furi, Darkest Dungeon or Hotline Miami provide it the fullest.

Unlike your casual trashy AAA games.

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>>367000630
>"isnt it weird how my imaginary defense force has this [source needed]huge amount of play hours on their accounts?"
oh no, no, go ahead anon. your argument's way better.

>>367000638
>I check a guide to see what I need to bring for each boss so I don't wipe multiple times and lose all my dudes

>>367000247
>the game forces you to grind and lose party members
Just if you're a shitty player. Even the final boss can be beaten without losing anyone. The only thing grinding is your baby teeth when confronted with a modicum of planning and challenge.

"Forces".

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>>367000582
no, pretty sure this is.

>>367000925
>>the game forces you to grind and lose party members
you lose all the party members that go into the darkest dungeon and you have to do it multiple times

yes its forced dipshit

>>367000867
Go ahead and share a screenshot of your hours then.... or else you admit DD is a shit grinder game and only sweaty tryhards with hundreds of hours defend it???

>>367000907
nice logical extreme, faggot, here, let me try.
>I only play games where i can stumble in and win basically every fight with no effort

>>367000136
Took me 60 hours to finish the game and get all Hamlet achievements, as well as sub-99 weeks and Reynolds + Dismas in DD4 achievement.

maybe you are just bad at tactical games?

>>367000815
No one mentioned AAA anything you colossal insecure faggot. No one cares that you beat hard games because everyone sees what you equate as organic difficulty, which is really RNG and grind so you can spend more time not thinking about your sad life. Your games are shit-tier recycled content.

>>367001092
>i don't get why the game is grindy?? i never lost any party members ever even though the bosses are designed to crush lazy party set ups

wow guess your tactical knowledge is beyond all human comprehension huh. it's almost as if you knew which party members to bring before entering the dungeon... almost as if you.... checked a guide

>>367000925

This is how you can tell someone hasn't actually beaten the game, or even gotten to the darkest dungeon.

It literally stops you from using the same characters to use explore the Darkest Dungeon. Then you need to grind up another group of max level adventurers to go to the next level of the dungeon. And then you lose 2 members, mandatory, in the final boss battle.

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>>367001019
why would me not posting this somehow be any kind of admittance faggot.

>>367000907
>>I check a guide to see what I need to bring for each boss so I don't wipe multiple times and lose all my dudes

Only DD bosses have surprise-factor. All other bosses let you kill them TWICE before you get to the champion difficulty and get the real challenge.

Sorry that the game is punishing ultra retards who cannot handle the boss after beating it at least once or twice and still manage to lose on champion difficulty.
Unlike casual Souls clones that allow you to try each boss an infinite amount of time and hours.

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>>367001145
>casual shitter still insists on RNG and Grind after being blown the fuck out in this thread multiple times

That's why you have to grind extra time, sonny, you never learn since you are so retarded.

>>367001303
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjTRKMrWkko
First result on Youtube.

And it's not like the devs were screaming about the "Never Again" mechanics on the forums before the Darkest Dungeon was finished. I guess you were too busy shitposting on /v/ back then.

>>366994228
>"if a game cuts out the grind then that means there's less game!"
lol

>>367001268
no faggot, I'm mocking your assumption that you have to. i've both been destroyed and have fucked bosses when I've first run into them. you don't need a guide to pass a boss, you need one to do it "easily" and that mostly applies to champion bosses. by that time though, you should be able to decude what works against them - you've fought them twice each before.

tl;dr - no u

>>367000907
you can flee though so you can pick a adequate squad composition for the boss

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>>367001378
>t. tacticool master beat every boss first try blind

lmao

>>367001492

http://darkestdungeon.gamepedia.com/Heart_of_Darkness

Although it may seem that the final boss wantonly decides to make one of your party members instantly die, the skill "Come Unto Your Maker" will always trigger on two instances if the conditions are met:

First Time: After the boss has been downed to 2/3 of his total health, and your total number of party members is exactly 4.
Second Time: After you reduce his health bar to 1/3 of its total HP and your total number of party members is exactly 3.

That means, that after one of your characters inflicts a blow that reduces the boss' HP under said thresholds, he will immediately deal a deathblow to one of your party members. Strategies are discussed below.

>>367000997
The game is not about having the same 4 heroes in roster.
It's a game about at least 16 units you send in DD.

The fact that you fail to understand it makes you a fucking retard who's clearly trying the wrong game and should stick to some casual QTE / walking sims.

>>367001608
>why isn't everyone as shit as me?????
>i'm a shit souls master who can quickly press buttons mommy i'm so good at video games whaaat you need to actually think and use skills properly and think about speed and who moves first, etc?
>bawwwwww mommy game is so R N G fuck that bring me doritos mommy!!

t. you

>>367001492

So you don't actually have an argument for why there needs to be a forced grind. Just went right for the lesser argument. Thats pathetic, anon.

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games that rely so heavily on rng like this and xcom just do not appeal to me in the slightest. i like the presentation of darkest dungeon but the gameplay is fucking terrible. 1.5% of the people who own the game have actually fucking finished it.

>>367001473
Who blew anyone out, anon? You still haven't even denied that your game is a recycled walking simulator :^)

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HOL UP
*browses /r/darkestdungeon*
WAIT WAIT
*checks steam community guide*
SO YOU BE SAYIN
*checks darkest dungeon wikipedia*
YOU BE SAYIN
*edits game configs*
THIS GAME SOME FINNA
*watches youtube let's play*
SOME KINDA
*turns off extra difficulty options*
NAH HOL UP
*plays for 250 hours*
YOU SAYIN
*reads guides on the redhook forum*
THIS GAME WUZ
*shitposts on /v/ defending lazy RNG*
EASY NON-RNG ONLY TACTICAL HIGH LEVEL STRATEGY GAME

>>367001669

>The game is about grinding 4 times more than necessary instead of actual skill

>>367001839
m8, you'll get enough max level characters by the time you upgrade your hamlet and beat the ruins, weald, warrens and cove bosses, it's not the definition of "forced grind". Burden of proof is on you.

>>367001989
kek

>make another save because why not
>week 15
>still no Man at Arms
I really need one for those veteran weald missions. Without his guard treebranch smackdown hits like 60 on a crit whereas only 12 with a MaA

>>367001851
i didn't finish it but i play like 17 hour of it and enjoyed it
>>367001989
checking a guide simply kills the fun
it's not really exploring if you know what you're going to find

>>367002051

So, grind more to grind faster. Thats what your argument is literally boiling down to.

>>367002105
Weakening curse. You're welcome.

>>367001989
>there is an actual physical human out there somewhere who typed this, attached a picture of a children's cartoon and thought it was worthwhile to submit for everyone to see

embarrassing

>>367001492
>And it's not like the devs were screaming about the "Never Again" mechanics on the forums before the Darkest Dungeon was finished. I guess you were too busy shitposting on /v/ back then.
more like i just played the game and i had no idea about that bs

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ITT: Masochistic autists sperg out and tell others to play walking simulators when DD is a LITERAL walking simulator but with shit unrefined combat, RNG, forced grind and irrational hunger/level checks.

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>>367001851
>games that rely so heavily on rng like this and xcom just do not appeal to me in the slightest. i like the presentation of darkest dungeon but the gameplay is fucking terrible. 1.5% of the people who own the game have actually fucking finished it.

DD is a great casual filter. Instantly blows shitters like you who complain about "RNG & Grind" out of the game. Yet we have the comfiest DD general on /vg/ and very good community overall free of shitters and /v/ermins who failed to stain the game.
This is a great fucking achievement.

>>367002178
That's what you boiled it down to after warping it in a very bizarre way, yes. Whatever suits your fancy, I guess, but I'd advice you to work on your hook, line and sinker technique.

>>367002424
ok then back to your /vg/ hugbox you go then

>>367002424
>weeb retard who browses /vg/ proud of a general thread where he meets likeminded autists
oh 4chan

>>367002342
Have a delicate (You), cupcake.

>>367002424
>comfiest

Opinion on anything discarded. "muh comfy echo chamber hugbox" is the typical reddit mentality

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>>367001989
>being retarded

?
Fuck off retard.

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>>367002424
>we have a great circlejerk at our /vg/ thread where we circlejerk about how hardcore we are

really tenderizes the ol' gray matter

>>367002549
You forgot your smug anime girl and to call me a casual, anon (:

>>367002631
Regrettable, I'm sure.

>>367002424
>free of shitters and /v/ermins who failed to stain the game.

If you hate "/v/ermin" so much then why are you even on /v/ in the first place?

I can't believe people still defend this game as if it's somehow the deepest strategy

It's one corridor the whole way through, with marignal changes in strategy depending on the map, you've got two values to manage (which you can barely interact with) and four abilities per character.
Wow truly a challenge for the fucking ages.

The decisions you make in fights are obvious the second time you have to make them. It's always good to kill that guy first, or to stun this one until you kill something else, and since the types of enemy clusters aren't that numerous it just feels like you're rolling a god damn dice.

It's literally just about figuring out a good combo per area and grinding.

And worst of all, it's boring. That's the biggest sin here. Because after your twentieth visit to the same area you don't even consider the graphics anymore, all you see is numbers.

I really wanted to like this game, but it's just not worth the time it asks for.

>>367001806
This guy got triggered hard.
good job >>367001608

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>>367002470
>>367002530
>>367002581
>>367002626
>>367002835

>/v/ermins aka one of the worst 4chan boards after /b/ and /pol/ is getting jealous of good boards like /vg/ with comfy generals

Hahahahaha.
People from other boards come here to get the easiest (you)s with effortless baits and destroy local retards in the easiest possible conversations on 4chan. It's literally like beating kids in a kindergarten with a baseball bat. Clearly not something to be proud of but still a guilty pleasure.

If that worked the same with Souls and Nier we could still have good threads without some braindead /v/ermins.

>>367002198
i know that already but if you face two fungal motherfuckers you can't curse them both constantly and healing. MaA just works better for Weald with a vestal

I also use pos2 houndmaster with shittons of dodge to protect my pos 1 in Weald. It's doable but you always risk getting a lot of damage

>>367002924
You're being too rational and levelheaded anon, they're going to call you casual.

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>>367001989
post is perfectly representative of you and everyone you represent. good on you kiddo.

>>367002424
>being proud of a /vg/ circlejerk

>>367003114
>Smug anime shitposter, like clockwork, resorts to the "haha i was just pretending to be retarded for yous"
So pathetic, your /vg/ trannies miss you

>>367003145
Yeah I think PROT is better than dodge in the long run. Sure you get hit here and there and it piles up, but the all or nothing won't save you from that nasty crit.

>>367003114
literally writes itself

Why are you all getting mad about how other people play a single player game? It doesn't affect you. Let people play how they want.

Can I change my old save to radiant mode?

The grind at endgame is stupid.

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>>367003185
>"n-nobody is fighting each other or shitposting on /vg/, must be a circlejerk!"
humiliating, fampai.

one of the more retarded threads on /v/ ive seen in a while...

Are these new champion mobs currently on live?

>>367002626
what is this image from

>>367002447

Grinding for something else to grind faster doesn't change the fact you have to grind more, you moron. You fell for a shitty gameplay trick that tries to mask how much grinding you have to actually do, and you paid for it.

>>367003428
>Why are you all getting mad about how other people play a single player game? It doesn't affect you. Let people play how they want.

Shitters are getting mad after being called out.

Figures the game is not grindy or RNG, it's just shitters being fucking bad as always and failing to comprehend the game that doesn't end in less than 10 hours because shitters make it 100 hours longer with their shit tier decisions and overall shittery.

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There can be no hope in this hell, no hope at all.

>>367003747
Live in the beta.

>>367000247
that cat is cute, can i save that pic?

>>367003793
>dev updates the game recognizing its filled with rng bullshit that is actively anti-amusement that many people have issues with
>same few autists who don't have anything better to do but to play """""""""""""difficult""""""""""" video games still pretending like this is BTFOing """""""""""""casuals"""""""""""

>>367003767
Gee, I bet you get your panties in a knot every time you see an XP bar. I'd recommend Tumblr to express those frustrations against "grinding".

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>>367003973
more like
>dev buckles down to the casual masses
>adds a completelly optional babby mode so shitters finally shut up, while actual people can still play grown-up mode
feel free to venture out of the kiddie pool when you reach high school, billy.

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>>367003973
>devs give a casul mode for whiny bitches
>"SEE! THEY ADMIT IT HAS RNG"

>>367004175
>hehehe i wasted my life on this game this dev made and figured it out, but now he released an update that lessens my masochistic achievement
>what to do!!!!
>better call em casuals :)

just bought this game

should I play on radiant? seems like it just takes the tedium of grinding out

>>367002581
>disliking comfy

Shit taste confirmed and stamped

>>366994228
Literally retarded.

>>367004395
Yes, but Radiant doesn't change the fact that this game is pretty fucking boring, and each map is basically the same corridor with literally nothing else to do in this game but grind.

what does this image mean by
>don't waste gold on guys with less than 50% stress

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Guys this game is so rng and grindy let's get to Nintendo switch and play Mario or Zelda instead

>>367004395
Radiant mode makes the game less grindy at the cost of making it much easier. Just play Darkest difficulty.

>>367004771
I want DD on Switch. Redhook please.

>>367004698
You don't need to heal stress unless they get an RNGaffliction from it, which happens when you reach 100 stress.

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>>367004698
woops forgot image

also plague doctor seems waifu tier, can I just always have her around?

>>367004549
Souls games are pretty boring you literally do nothing but grind mobs and then kill a boss and then you repeat it infinite amount of times and don't forget all your deaths that kick you back to the bonfire and restart the level so you can grind some more

>>367004862
it's supposed to be launch day game on the switch no ?

>>366995025
Loooooool

>>367004771
Thanks, I would rather play better developed games with goals other than grinding that are more than dungeon walking simulators!

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>>367004351
>t. casual

>>367004963
this can apply to every other games
all you do is kill small mob until you get to the boss and then repeat
and every death brings you back to a check point
so what's your point ?

>>367004963
Yes, I agree, I don't like Dark Souls either. What's your point?

>>367004963
Video games are pretty boring you litterally do nothing except press buttons on your mouse and keyboard.

>>367005129
The point is you're a person who doesn't like video games on a video game board, and people are making fun of you and your silly arguments.

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>>367004351
>"i freely admit to being a casual."
>"heh, watch it, he's gonna say i'm a casual now."

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CAAAWW
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>1% of people are good enough to finish the game
>0,5% finished ng+
>hmm seems like generation z that is used to play uncharted, overwatch, memesouls and weebrush cant handle the challenge and finish the game
>lets make a casual short mode where they can't fuck up as much as in normal mode and maybe they will finally manage to finish the game

What? They still can't? They can't even beat DD1 which is soft casual filter??? This game is RNG? They use no stuns and don't get proper skills and trinkets? They don't know how to deal with stress?? Their single party died and they dropped the game???!

Uhhhmmm....

>>367005129
Don't play it then you colossal retard. Don't complain about something you dislike like a child because the world doesn't spin around you and things won't change if you dislike them or not.

>>367005493
You autists always use statistics to spin your own autistic message. The point is not that the game is too hard, which strokes your autistic ego, but that the game is fundamentally not worth the time people put into it to overcome whatever difficulty it claims to have, which really boils down to grinding, RNG, hunger checks, and maybe some strategy with camp planning, which wasn't even in the original beta of the game. You fucking faggots are so quick to think you're a special snowflake for beating this game, when it was really the dev's experiment in taking the difficulty in dungeon crawlers to an unnecessary extreme. This game is a fucking alpha that is constantly being retooled, and you are not a smart tactician for figuring out an RNG game. Now the game is rebalanced again in a way that triggers you.

>>367005493
radiant mode just reduces the exp grind, thats literally it. You're acting like it turns off stress and perma death when it doesnt

>woaaah why do you have to make a roster of viable heroes to beat the game
>bawww why can't you just go with the first 2 heroes and finish the game on level 1 my friends are waiting in dudebro MOBA game I don't wanna spend my time on stupid rng grind

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>go on /dadg/
>everyone celebrating that Radiant mode is a thing
uhmmm, where are the hardcore players?

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>>366992834

too much grinding
too repeatative
too random
cant revive

>>367005821
Stick with 10h modern casual games.

When did you give up the """""challenge""""" meme, /v/?
I stopped after trying to beat MW1 on highest difficulty, I did, but fuck it, never again. Gimme the casual mode

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>>367005821
>[frantic crying noises]

>>367006072
Radiant mode brings new enemies in the game and people enjoy even bits of new content before the actual dlc

>>367006072
people aren't mad that radiant mode is a thing, it's optional after all. they're arguing the shitters who think it's the only mode to play, or some kind of proof that DD is too grind/rng heavy.

some of that is true, but the hyperboly is real.

>>367006190
that's because high difficulties in COD are shit it's just tedious
they doesn't require more skill just more patience

>>367006368
I like how in timesplitters or perfect dark, harder mode meant more objectives and longer missions so you were rewarded for playing it like that

>>367006498
i didn't play these
but i find difficulties in the new doom and wolfenstein pretty well done

>>367005493
>only 70% beat the tutorial
>more people have finished a quest than have opened the cemetary
m8