This is dialogue from Horizon Zero Dawn It is written by peo

>>365865919
I don't think the dialogue for "Brom" is terrible, but god is that voice acting the worst.

>>365866857
Ashley Burch is the VA for Aloy because SAG-AFTRA is fucking games over

>>365866857
It was terrible.
All of it
clichès everywhere and no sense of feeling in anything other than meme talk. The music is not even suited for the moment

>>365865919
One thing this game does have going for it are good production values (Well, animations-aside), so why did they cheap out so badly with these voice actors? Sony are funding it, it's not like it's a budget title, you'd think they could just get some of the obvious heavy hitters from LA. And even then, AA games like Bloodborne and Nioh use relatively unknown theater and BBC television actors/actresses, which get reasonably good performances without breaking the bank, so what's the story here?

>>365865919
I didn't know the Dynasty Warriors 3 VAs were still around. Good for them.

>>365866857
>>365867008
>>365865919
>those facial animations
>literally zero emotion portrayed

I'm embarassed quite frankly, it's Oblivion all over again

>>365867368
bruh I can go back and watch the old Dynasty Warriors cutscenes all day long and they're way better than this shit. at least they went full on camp without trying to pretend to be serious

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>>365865919
Fuck this is dreadful

>>365867382
No to mention the voice-actors seem to be reading without any context. None of the tones of the voices match.

You bandwagoners were gonna call it shit no matter what happened

Horizon: Zero _____

be as mean as possible, /v/

>>365868775
And you cocklickers are going to defend it no matter what.

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Wow, /v/eddit is heavily attacking this game with a shitty awkward scene with no relevance at all

What are you gonna do when the game gets a 8.5-9 metacritic score?

What are you gonna do when the game is gonna sell millions?

>>365869226
How's that cock taste in your mouth, anon?

>>365869226
Probably kill myself. I'll kill myself before I hurt her.

>>365869226
>The game could sell and have fans, GET THAT people with opinions!

>>365868853
Zero Sales
Zero Talent

>this turd is gonna be defined as "storyrich"
LOL

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>2017 and TW3 still has the best non mo-capped facial animations

>>365870087
And it will stay that way until the release of Cyberpunk 2077. Then that will be the benchmark until the next CDPR game and so on times infinite.

Those facial animations are atrocious

Also, saw some gameplay footage earlier, why does the Mc always fucking chatter? It is nonstop and would drive me up a wall after a half an hour

Warning: Deep content

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As a genuine question, how can any dev working on this title look at that video and feel proud of what they have produced? This reminds of the 343i-anon talking about when everyone at the studio saw the Halo 5 fight scene they got upset because of how shite it looked

>>365870087
Until Dawn exists.

>>365871068
i said non mo-capped

>>365868853
Horizon: Zero Down Syndrome

>>365870209
>THEN THE LAST GUARDIAN
Talk shit about my Trico petfu again and see what comes about m8.

>>365865919
It all means nothing if you have no direction

>It is written by people who wrote the side quests for The Witcher 3

Is that supposed to be a surprise?

Sidequests in The Witcher 3 were terribly designed and repetitive, most of the time ending with a "unique twist" (DUDE WHAT IF THE MONSTER WASN'T THE BAD GUY HUH). Also the dialogue was a fucking joke, the writers probably thought that putting sarcasm everywhere is going to make the game hilarious and clever.

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>>365869458
>>365869458

>>365871162
Ah shit my bad.

>>365865919
I thought gameplay was the only thing that matters, /v/? What happened, I tho-

Oh whoops, a Sony game. My bad.

The dialogue is the least of this scene's problems.

Those facial animations are atrocious, and the voice acting is sub-par. A skilled actor could work an awkwardly-written line into something passable but these knobsticks couldn't act their away out of a paper bag.

>>365867096
Could have been that voice actors strike going on. They've been at it for like almost half a year?

>>365865919
I'll give the writers credit, if you just read what is written it seems up to bar with Vegas/Witcher tier. It's the god awful VA and animation that's fucking it up. The VA's inflictions are all over the place and they don't know when to use what emotion and the animation is jittery as fuck like raw mocap footage. I hope the main game isn't like this

>>365871256
>Sidequests in The Witcher 3 were terribly designed and repetitive
> one of the big things people praised the game for is the worst thing

Literally fuck off, if you want actual terrible side quests look at FFXV

>>365865919
>MUH CUTSCENES!!!!!!!
>MUH FUCKING CUTSCENES!!!!!!
You autistic fucks latsch on to anything for shitposting sake.

>>365869226
>let's see how long you guys keep badmouthing the taste of shit, millions of retards will LOVE eating it

does the game even have facial animations? only the mouth and eyes are moving.

>>365865919
>That face

I don't like fucking get it??

Why can't western developers into female faces??

>>365871491
Would you prefer people focusing on the braindead enemy AI and generic mechanics?

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>B-B-B-BUT NINTENDO!!!!!!
God, you Sonyggers are like a broken record.
Every fucking time.

>>365871483
FFXV's sidequests are a fucking joke, but that still doesn't make The Witcher 3 better.

>one of the big things people praised the game for is the worst thing

They praised it for literally everything. It's Skyrim of the year 2015 after all

>>365865919
What's up with so many game characters fucking it up by giving them those dumbass ears?

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>2:20

>>365871535
Except when /v/ starts claiming that X game will flop because people unironically think anyone but /v/ agrees with /v/

>>365871483
>"this is bad, here's why:"
>"others like it so you are wrong!!"
nice argument

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>When the visuals are bad
>REEEE look at this cutscene guys!!
>If the visuals were good
>REEEEEE it's a movie!!!!

Make up your fucking mind, faggots.

>>365865919
This game isn't going to flop

casual gamers will eat it up, it'll be as popular as bloodborne.

the game will objectively be far worse than what was advertised and will probably launch with an ass load of bugs and shit

>>365869381
>>365869516
>>365871535
Heh, /v/eddit is so fucking predictable

But anyway, keep hating on this game when millions will buy and enjoy it, you must have very miserable lives.

>>365865919
>30 years industry with high developed technologies
>grow up side by side with modern cinema with its special effects, mocap and everything else
>still cant make a decent dialogue scene

>>365871721
Describe braindead enemy AI and generic mechanics, I'm a beginner game dev, and have no clue on how to properly AI.

>>365871909
How the hell are those two related

You're literally so asshurt you're coming up with things to be mad about

>>365865919
Why does she have a monkey face?

>>365871535
That's /v/s opinion on almost very new game in a nutshell.

Jesus fuck that was painful to watch.

>>365871956
Technology has nothing to do with making a decent dialogue scene.

>>365865919
>Witcher 3 had good dialogue
Anon... cmon man Witcher 3 is the Twilight of vidya and is on the same tier as Undertale.

>>365871956
Because unlike in movies, writing is irrelevant in videogames.
There's no reason to waste money on plot related crap.

The Killzone developers wouldn't make a bad game, would they?

>>365871970
Are you credited for your work on this game

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>>365871793
western devs seem to only make sure that character designs look good at certain angles rather than look good at all viewable angles.
take for example kazuma kiryu, in promotional material he's almost always in side profile but in-game if you look at him head on he's still looking just as good as when you see him from the side.
for almost all promotional material for horizon, aloy is never seen head on, she is always shown at side or 3/4 profiles. yet now we see gameplay we all see just how ugly and fat her face really is.

>>365871732
What are you talking about?

>3:07
What the fuck?

>>365871937
Heh, nothing personnel, kid
*gobbles AAA cock*

>>365872030
I think that's what he's implying.

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>>365871694
"We can't model for shit" with an occasional sparkle of "if we make her less conventionally attractive maybe we'll fool idiots that we're fighting sexism"

Like, seriously, people think the second point is the driving force behind it, but some devteams can't model period, in an attempt to chase realism they get in the way of their artistic vision with these weird results

>>365871483
Most of the side quests were pretty bad. They were just better than other games, which are basically

>Hey, get me this!

The main story related quests and Hearts of Stone were good though.

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>>365872162
>being on the wrong side of history

>>365872193
What? I'm agdg tier.

>>365871937
Are you defending what you saw in the video? It's low quality. So either you can take the cock out of your mouth and say it's low quality, or you can close your eyes and ears and go LA LA LA CAN'T HEAR YOU IT'S GREAT LA LA LA. I see you've chosen the latter.

Much bigger than the voice acting or animation is the draw distance. I don't know if it's just in the videos that have been posted here but that draw distance is fucking embarrassing.

>>365872490
Tis a joke m'lady

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>>365872030
Because /v/tendo wants to hate this game no matter what and always has since it got revealed.

It could be genuinely great but that won't stop shitposters from ignoring anything that doesn't support the anti-Sony narrative.

>>365872481
Considering there's no well written videogames, I think i'm quite right.

>>365865919
Holy fuck does that look bad

What a downgrade

>>365871887
for me the reason the side quests were good was because they were structured, they had a proper beginning, middle, and end in most cases. geralt's monologuing made otherwise boring quets actually kind of interesting. also the characterisation of side quest characters was really good for the most part, there were a lot of memorable side characters and memorable quest outcomes.

so mechanically they were uninteresting (which has been the case for a while now across all rpgs) but they were great in that many shared the same kind of production values that the main quests had rather than just being joyless busywork for xp. i ended up doing side quests to take a break from the main quest at times and it really helped with the pacing of the game, and few other games especially open world games have done that for me.

>>365872116
That's not what I meant.

>>365871927
Nobody said anything about it not selling well. It's gonna sell decent numbers because Sony has been marketing the everloving shit out of it to constantly push it as their new killer app for PS4 since they keep losing exclusives and shit. That's besides the point anyways because sales numbers have no actual indication for any game's real worth. Call of Duty and Madden will always print billions but we have always known for years that those series are usually far from being objectively good in our eyes.

>>365872178
They already did, it's called Killzone. I don't know why anyone was looking forward to another fucking open world craftey survivey game from the creators of a franchise that ranges between shitty to mediocre, Sony's western studios rarely if ever put out worthwhile games now.

>>365871457
but they can act their way into a cardboard box!

>>365872162
Video games are better with good plots usually, apart from the obvious ones that don't need it like Nintendo games or racing games.

>>365872585
>sonyggers claim /v/ is overrun by nintenyearolds
>nintenyearolds claim /v/ is overrun by sonyggers
It's a fact that consolecuckies are a minority in here.
Learn to accept that you are all 3rd class citizens, no matter in which console you play.

>>365872626
>didn't mean technology
>special effects, mocap and everything else

what did he mean by this

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>>365865919
Literally worse than the new Mass Effect.

Jesus Christ, Sony.

>>365872585
>B-BUT MUH NINTENDO

Fucker, Horizon is going to be shit. Stop sucking on that victim complex cock.

>>365865919
>New Vegas writers
>Good
oh im laffin

>>365872138
>Am I cool yet?

>that voice acting
>dialogue radial

fucking awful

>>365872683
>Video games are better with good plots usually
No, they are better if they are more fun.
Considering there's no games with good plots, why focus on that?
Videogames that pay attention to the story end up with stories just as bad as videogames who don't even bother, but more convoluted.
MGS and Mass Effect are proof of that.

>>365872703
I meant that they were incompetent

>>365872695
>consolecuckies are a minority here

What's the weather like in that bubble you live in?

>>365872138
(you)'re trying to hard, son.

>>365872585
That sound like any new game by a major company coming out, ever.

boards.fireden.net/v/thread/359073840/

>>365872734
>Voice Acting only matters when Sony does it wrong

good to know

>>365872585
>phoneposter is an underage console flamewar fag.
what a surprise.

>>365872495
Low quality? It's just a shitty scene with some bad voice acting and that's it

Are you gonna judge a whole game because of that?

>>365872787
A good plot elevates games. It gives them meaning.

Obviously they fucked it up with Mass Effect, and MG has always been convoluted because it's Japanese. Just because most games have terrible plots doesn't mean games should stop trying.

>>365865919
>Wrote the story for New Vegas and side quests for Witcher 3

So that's why it's childish wannabe movie trash that's as deep as a speck of rain

>>365867096
Probably the VA strike in LA as >>365871472 points out, but it doesn't really explain why they got these hacks to do it. I'm sure there's plenty of decent TV level actors who could do an okay job; it doesn't need to be Steve Blum and Jennifer Hale in everything.

>>365865919
I'm getting the game because the robot hunting looks awesome and I love the whole multiple angle approach for takedowns to preserve harvestable components, but the VAs are awful.

Ashley Burch is wooden and can't modulate that voice seemingly at all, and the randoms are lol it's 2001 and we got the interns to voice people tier.

If I cared more about the story I'd be upset.

>>365871956
You're just looking at the wrong games man. Spoilers ahead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpME4riPI1k
https://youtu.be/txuYGYQGWio?t=8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOMfJa3LVCk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0y6sYQiIp0

>>365865919
Looks uncanny as fuck

>>365868853
Horizon Zero Positive Reviews on Metacritic

>>365871732
more like breaking records, bitch

>>365873036
>aspects of a game are shitty
>"are you gonna judge the game because of that?"
Huh...............

>>365865919
>ugly woman MC
>nigger friends
fucking dropped

>>365871256
Anon Anon, what a prick

>>365873475
If black people are the main issue you have with this game, you have a problem.

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>>365865919
I just wanted a game where I could hunt giant animal mechs in a postapocalyptic world I was alone (or at very least wasn't that populated).
Why does everything I get slightly hyped to turns into shit?

>>365873098
The fuck did you want the story to be? Some Spiritualist nth dimension mumbojumbo that makes you question the futility of life?

Because thats what I think you're getting.

>>365873382
Read again fag

I said, are you gonna judge the whole game just because voice acting?

Voice acting makes a game bad?

>>365872605
>I am the arbiter of all that is correct
Ok

>>365865919
Holy Jesus motherfucking Christ, is that fake? It hurt to listen.

>>365873683
Not him, but it ruins the game completely. It makes a chore to ge through quests and dialogue.

>>365872787
>Considering there's no games with good plots
just admit you have shit taste and move along

>>365873928
>ruins the game completely

Oh boy, i love over exaggeration, it's just a fucking NPC with bad voice acting, Xenoblade Chronicles X voice acting is shit too, Zelda voice actress is shit too and i don't see people complaining about it

But people are literally grasping at straws.

>>365865919
Holy shit, this is Robot Chicken quality. canceling preorder

>>365872585
>Devs of Halo Killer #27345
>Writer of Shadow of Mordor
>Gameplay is a cross of Far Cry and nu-Tomb Raider because that's what sells
>Budget pumped into graphics because Sony so everything else like AI and Animations are laughably bad.

It was just destined to be bad my friend, sorry

Is it weirding anyone else out to see and hear a bunch of white and black people acting like they're native americans?

Its like, damn guys make up your own lore.

>>365865919
>1:34
Oh shit, I'm sorry.

>>365873593
>2017
>STILL giving these faggots (You)s

You're an idiot

>>365865919
>It is written by people who wrote the story for New Vegas and side quests for The Witcher 3
where's the source?

>>365865919
Okay this looks worse than any Bioware game. If /v/ wasn't filled with shills and sonyggers this would derided like no other game

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>3:06

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>>365874246
>this looks worse than any Bioware game
Easy there anon, I do no think you appreaciate the gravity of those words.

>>365874090
Meme arrows aside, the game actually looks pretty solid and interesting, but whatever makes you sleep at night fuccboi.

So this is the game that Sonyggers have been shilling? Pathetic.

>>365873040
>A good plot elevates games. It gives them meaning.
No it doesn't.

>Just because most games have terrible plots doesn't mean games should stop trying.
Why not?
A good plot won't prevent a game from sucking, but good gameplay can save a game.

>>365874323
this looks worse than stuff you'd see in a Tales game

>>365868853
Horizon: Zero Fucks

>>365874059
The voice acting in BotW is at least passable. This makes it seem to me that a ton of NPCs have terrible voice acting since they use one person to voice multiple NPCs in games usually. I don't know about Xenoblade, but that's weebshit, of course it has terrible voice acting, which is partly why I don't buy most Japanese games unless they're text based.

It's not grasping at straws when you'll be talking to a ton of NPCs in this games. Get your head out of your ass, the only one with decent VA in that scene is the MC, and even then the facial expressions are flat as fuck.

>>365873942
Tell me which games are well written so I know the reason why i'm about to laugh at you.

>>365868853

Horizon Zero Quality Control

>>365874206
>>365874206
It's right there on wikipedia and several of those shitty games media sites. I'm not gonna give them page views and allow their shittastic articles to derail the thread. Just google "horizon zero dawn writers" and you'll see it easy.

I feel a bit uncomfortable about the appropriation of Native American concepts in this game. I just watched the quest video and they use "braves" to describe fellow warriors, and there was a costume in the UI referring to "shamans". I mean at least they could do is make up some new words if they're just going to rip off a culture whole cloth like that. At least they changed headdresses to be ribbons instead of feathers.

Perhaps because they're a Dutch developer they're a bit unaware of this issue of appropriation in America, but it doesn't excuse it.

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This is awful, it's like I'm watching a Barbie movie, those animations are terrible, seriously what the fuck.

>>365870087
The Last of Us facial expressions were made by hand.

>>365865919
This game must be in the same universe as life is strange

>>365868853
Horizon: Zero out of Ten.

I don't think the dialogue is actually that terrible

>>365874490
Not him but no matter what he says you'll disagree

>>365874356
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but you have a chronic case of shit taste, enjoy your generic tower climber shoot the monster in the glowy bit if it isn't one shot sluggish TPS.

>>365874580
If these were Native Americans, they would be calling the black ones buffalos

>>365865919
>People surprised that a game with the ultimate meme in gaming "Female Protagonist" is shit

>>365874695
Because there's no well written videogames.
Good writers don't bother in an industry where talentless hacks like Hideo Kojima are praised as geniuses.

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Sometimes I dream of being a triple A developer and making games more and more lower quality, just to see how many people will eat it up from the palm of my hands and give me millions. I mean after No Man's Sky, anything is possible. The public is easily swayed.

>>365874402
There's no use arguing with you. I don't get how can't like a good plot in a game, or at least have them try. Think about playing Red Dead Redemption or any other shooter if they just put you in a room and said "here, shoot at these guys" without explaining why.

>>365874580
Who is it harming that they're using Native American themes and imagery in their game? It's not like modern Native American culture resembles anything portrayed in the game, and it doesn't seem to be in any way belittling the culture, shitting voice acting aside.

>>365874490
Don't be a gay

While there are no true blue masterpieces out there, there is a good handful of well written games

>>365874837
>I don't get how can't like a good plot in a game
Because it's pointless.
Videogames are not, and will never be, a storytelling medium.

>Think about playing Red Dead Redemption or any other shooter if they just put you in a room and said "here, shoot at these guys" without explaining why.
If it's fun, who cares.

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>>365873036
Did we watch the same gameplay video?
>Detective/witcher sense
>Far cry's crafting, with plants to make potions
>Crafting requires "metal shards", I've seen nowhere any specific component that would indicate a MH like crafting, it's bound to be barebones with shitty trials to get a special panther skin just like in Far Cry 3
>The equipment looks like a blatant rip off of Witcher 3. Menus, UI looks like it is straight of witcher 3
>26 creatures. We can bet that nearly half of them will be critters, small mechas, 4-5 will be unique bosses, and the rest will be medium size like the t-rex.
>The map is ugly as hell and reeks procedural generation. Just look at fucking pic related.

There's not a shred of originality beyond the mecha dinosaur gimmicks. It's not only safe, but absolutely devoid of any identity. If you add to that the bioware "choices", the hamfisted diversity ( in a far future if everyone fuck everyone, there wouldn't be any races but mixed ones. Still you have gingers, black, asian people).

That's a creative disaster, and what's sad is that it will sell loads of copy and forgotten 2 months later. The sequel is already in the making and you can bet it won't sell as much.

>>365874930
No, there are not.

>>365874931
Holy fuck are you close minded.

>>365874795
>I don't like any of them therefore no videogames have good writing
Fuck off

>>365874931
>a storytelling medium

gameplay is storytelling

You work you way through a level, discover things, solve puzzles, beat a boss in an action packed fight. Is that not a story? The idea that story is divorced from its gameplay is what ruined video games.

>>365868853
>Horizon: Zero an hero

>>365875056
And I don't like any of them because they are not well written.

>>365874931
Do you actually think a game can ride off shooting people for no reason for long?

Even the original Doom had more to it than shooting monsters

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>>365865919
There's no way this is real. This is fucking 90s cinematic tier. Holy fucking shit the first Resident Evil had better voice acting and at least gave the illusion that it was coming from the models.

This is nearly 20 years of progress down the fucking drain.

>>365874980
Nice (((opinions))), i even love your /pol/ bait

But whatever dude, the game's gonna sell millions and gonna get great scores but whatever makes you sleep at night.

>>365875191
>There's no way this is real
There's about three other mirrors on youtube right now showing that it's real

>>365875152
What's your idea of good writing? Tell me TV show, movie, book, anything with good writing. I'm curious at this point.

>>365875154
>Do you actually think a game can ride off shooting people for no reason for long?
Yes.
The ultimate test to know if a game is good, is by stripping everything but the gameplay.
If it's still fun, then good job.
If it's not, you are a failure as a videogame developer.

>Even the original Doom had more to it than shooting monsters
Wolfenstein didn't, though.

>>365875127
>>365875152
he has no imagination of his own, he needs to have everything told to him and that is fine, people are different

some people like gaps while others hate them

>The voices in his head are calling for blood, even yours
>but surely he wouldn't hurt his own sister!
10/10 dialogue right there

why is everyone so black?

>>365865919
It's Brom's horrendous voice acting, not the dialogue.

>>365868853
Horizon: Zero Fun

>>365875127
>The idea that story is divorced from its gameplay is what ruined video games.
No, the idea that videogames need plot ruined them.
It's a plague that's taking over even games like Overwatch, which are multiplayer shooters.
Why do you waste your time writing characters?

>>365868853
Interest

>>365875391
The climate and area is pretty temperate if not on the cold side judging by the MC's clothes, right?

>>365875391
That's the future of USA

>>365875449
No the dialogue is also a big part of the problem, the voice acting just augments how bad it really is

>>365875501
This has to be bait.

>have characters
>lel why waste time making them characters?

>>365865919
what the FUCK is wrong with the black ladys face

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>>365875524
Speaking of how did she even get the furs for her clothes if all the animals are robotic?

It don't make a lick of sense

I'll be honest my interest dwindled for this game when I first learned there were other humans and Witcher/Dragon Age esque long conversations.

Running around alone in the wild and hunting giant robots seemed a lot more interesting than whatever these people are.

Did you honestly expect a game made by the Killzone developers to be good? Are you for real? What fucking year is this?

>>365868853
Horizon: Zero Replayability

>>365865919
I saw another dialogue scene of this, it was really retarded.
>guy says spirits are yelling at him to kill his sister
>talk him out of not doing it by telling him to ignore the spirits and go his own way (obviously meaning to depart from them)
>he agrees with you but then still leaves his sister and says the voices will leave him company
also
>that facial animation

What wasted potential this was.

>>365875314
this desu. If a game can't stand on gameplay alone it's a shit game. Everything else exists just to add flavour and spice to it.

Wow, didn't know they ported SWTOR for PS4. I really hated the dialogue and the hand gestures.

90% of devs should just give up on any kind of narrative

>>365875662
Not all of them.
There are boars and turkeys wandering around in the gameplay vid.

>>365865919
>somebody got paid to write that
>3 people were paid to say those lines
>a bunch more people were paid to "animate" it and "edit" those scenes
What the fuck is wrong with those assholes?

>>365875283
Reservoir Dogs amd One Million Dollar Baby for example, are okay movies.
Currently reading 1984, it's fine, although if it's worthy of all the hype, I haven't reached that part yet.

>>365875501
I mean that's the same thing I was saying, just that you're not acknowledging that it is impossible for a video game to not have plot, unless it has no gameplay

Overwatch isn't even art, it's a virtual playground (and a ruleset), giving it a story is like giving a basketball court a story

>>365875884
>3 people were paid to say those lines
One of them was Ashley Burch

>>365875662
There is also real animals in the game. I hope you didn't think a world of tribal humans don't eat meat right....

>>365870087
Half-Life 2

>>365875775
It helps to know why you're doing shit in a game though. Obviously a game that plays like shit but has a good plot is a chore to get through and sucks, but a game with good gameplay and a good plot makes it more interesting. He's saying that plots in games are useless, period.

>>365872978
Are you fucking braindead? There were tons of threads about Zelda's shitty English VO right from the trailer that revealed it.

You're just a victim complex crybaby who sees what he wants to.

Holy shit, I have been playing Injustice 2 beta today, and that game has better voice acting a motion capture then this.

A fucking fighting game.

>>365875701
>Implying Killzone wasn't good

KZ2 and 3 were good. Shadow fall of mediocre, but had good, short lived multiplayer.

>>365875314
What about RPGs? Those rely on writing especially crpgs
>Inb4 good RPGs don't exist

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>watch reveal trailer way back
>everyone geting hype as fuck
>4theplayers
>major new ip exclusive!
>nothing but carefully controlled vids up to now
>today we finaly get a real extended look at gameplay

mfw its literaly just a generic open world meme game with every cliched sandbox style feature.

mfw its just a reskinned farcry primal in third person.

Why is everyone saying this game looks anything but 10/10? Zelda voice acting is a lot worse IMHO, and the bow gameplay looks better than shooters like Halo or the bow in God of War. The climbing is better than Assassin's Creed and Zelda: Breath of the Wild by a mile and the graphics are gorgeous.

The dialog has no problems that I can tell, if you have problems with it maybe you just don't like the idea of a game where women have power? I don't get the hate behind this game.

Can anybody who can actually form an adult opinion maybe try to tell me where you're having trouble liking this game?

>>365865919
I felt like I was watching a Dragon Age Origins cut scene

>>365876219
Trying too hard.

>>365876219
/v/ a nintendo/pc board.

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what did they mean by these?

>>365875946
Jesus fuck, man.

>>365876219
You fuckers don't even try anymore and it just makes me sad.

>>365875314
I disagree but I don't think I really can

Shooting is fun but it can only carry for an hour or two before you get bored and need something to carry it along if that makes sense

But then again I have like 1000+ under Garry's Mod for TTT which is just shooting guys with no real reward like unlocks or story

>>365876263
Origins had way better voice acting and animation compared to that display.

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>>365865919

All these videos were supposed to be taken down.

Reported to youtube.

>>365876397
TTT is a thinking man's game :^)

>>365865919
New Vegas and TW3 had shit writing and a lame story, so this should surprise nobody.

>>365876219
6/10, was angry for a second, would've worked a lot better if this was ribbit

>>365876336

I'm actually amazed the numale doesn't have gages.

>>365876263
>DAO
>Bad Voice Acting

Excuse me my guy?

>>365875236
Fallout 4 sold for 12 millions copy despite being a giant turd.

>>365875236
>acknowledging the inevitability of race mixing is /pol/ bait
kys my dude

>>365876571
Can't believe I fell for that meme

>>365876567
Every bioware game has shitty voice acting though?

>>365875936
>just that you're not acknowledging that it is impossible for a video game to not have plot, unless it has no gameplay
What is Tetris, or Pong?

>Overwatch isn't even art
No videogame is.
Wanna know why they'll never be?
Art, like paintings, are 100% what the visionary wanted them to be, they don't listen to anyone, they do what they please.

In videogames you can't do that, because they cost a lot of money to make, specially Triple A games.
You need to appeal to people, normally you want to appeal to as many people as possible, and for this to happen, you have to give in to what people want, and sacrifice or alter your vision, and that's how it stops being art, into being a product.

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gaming is dead

>>365876419
>>365876567
I agree but something about it reminds me of Origins. I can't put my finger on it.

>>365876263
I think you meant to say a Bethesda game conversation.

>>365876571
Surely it sold more than that

>>365876715
No it doesnt?

>>365876125
There are good RPGs.
I've been playing Stalker Call of Chernobyl, a mod that basically eliminates the story and gives you all the maps of the franchise.
You have no objectives, you just do what you please, no story, and it's still fun.

>>365869226
Not give a shit because the masses always have fucking terrible taste and sales is not equal to quality

>>365867008
That explains my distaste for the character. Nothing against Burch personally, I just don't like her voice.

>>365871984
Oh, hey Mark!

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>>365870087
the facial animations in witcher 3 realy are the best.
it's never cringy, got all the little details and movements of the eyes, eyebrows, nose correct.

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>>365865919
Guerilla should just stick to shooters, Horizon is an embarrassment to the PS4 and the studio themselves.

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>>365876763

>>365875154
Most multiplayer games are like that.

>>365875624
Why, though?
Wolfenstein Enemy Territory is also a class based shooter and no character has any personality.

>>365876852
What did she mean by this?

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What the hell was this supposed to convey?
>I'm going to cut you open and roll around in your entrails

>>365865919
Does everyone in this game have parkinson's and down syndrome?

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>>365871984
>>365865919
Guys come on, this is pretty good for an indie game with a small team and next to no budget.

>>365876918
>shooters
Why, they have never made anything remarkable, just a cheap and gritty clone of Halo.

>>365865919
Breath of the Wild... BTFO...

>>365867382
Hey fuck you Oblivion at least has better voice acting and writing in it.
BY AZURA BY AZURA

>>365876763

>GAF
>Horizon avatar

Wow I bet this person is a source of hot unbiased opinions.

>>365876928
Multiplayer games tend to have a laundry list of cosmetics you can unlock

So this is the Zelda killer sonys been hyping

KEK
E
K

>>365876824
I don't think you know what an rpg is

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>>365871937
Of course the masses will buy it.. they buy every decent graphics Far Cry clone. I'm not salty about that, it's their money.

But make no mistake, this is the same 3rd person open world action game again. The same gameplay, same graphic style, same boring dialogue, same unmemorable soundtrack, etc.

>>365877020
Nobody compares Killzone to Halo except marketers from 2004 & Halo players. It's not a clone and the games are infinitely more polished than Horizon is shaping up to be.

Why were people hyped for this in the first place? Even ignoring OP's video, it just seems like a run of the mill open world game.

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>It's going to show how great the PS brand really is
>Breath of the Wild? More like Blown the Fuck wild

>>365865919
These graphics are fucking abysmal. I would rather look at N64. Those faces are fucking horrendous.

Who the fuck is the cancer that keeps trying to push graphics and FPS as more important than gameplay?

>>365877051
Games like Counter Strike Source don't.
And besides, what do cosmetics have to do with writing?
>>365877089
There's no need for a Zelda killer.
It's coming out on Nintendo consoles, which means it's DOA.

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>>365865919
>people had hopes for this
>even after the Killzone games

>>365876715
Some Dwarves and Elves sound off but it's alright otherwise

>>365876928
>Wolfenstein Enemy Territory is also a class based shooter and no character has any personality.
And who the fuck talks about that game? Who talks about any game that's pure gameplay? The list of games that have no plot begins with pong and ends with minesweeper.

>>365876125
Most RPGs aside from some recent western garbage can stand on their own without any narrative or story, the gameplay systems are enough to make playing enjoyable. You don't need a story or any dialogue or writing in Pokemon, for example, to enjoy playing it.

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>>365865919
3:07 JUST

>>365877171
>Nobody compares Killzone to Halo except marketers from 2004 & Halo players
But that's what it is, a cheap, forgettable Halo clone that nobody cares about, and Halo is already pretty mediocre.

>the games are infinitely more polished than Horizon is shaping up to be.
That's not an achievement.
Guerrilla simply has no reason to exist.
They have nothing of value to provide to this industry.

>>365877192

WE WUZ TRIBAL HUNTERS AN SHIEEET

alright, I guess that ones actually accurate

>>365877294
You're just talking out of your ass.

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what emotions was she trying to convey here?

>>365877191
There are expections and I guess it's more down to personal taste than anything

The point was that most games try to keep the player busy with something other than gameplay, wether it be the story or unlocks

Why does BioWare think that having your characters constantly wobbling their head while keeping a completely blank facial expression counts as animation

>>365877227
Pokemon isn't an rpg just because it's turn based.

>>365877215
>And who the fuck talks about that game?
Now, not many people considering it's 15 years old.

>The list of games that have no plot begins with pong and ends with minesweeper.
You forget about multiplayer games, like Quake 3, for example.

Focusing on storytelling it's a waste of everyone's time, and the publisher's money that could be gone to making the game fun, something that many games like Horizon need.
They focused on storytelling, and what do they come up with gameplay-wise?
Ubisoft Open World game about climbing towers #13802108410830192?

Is it a hardware limitation that in these kind of RPGs characters never seem to be doing anything while talking? They just stare fucking daggers at whoever they're conversing with and occasionally wiggle their hands?

Is even just talking while walking such a challenge for these people?

>>365877419
What in the fuck? Did they take a somewhat fat black then squash the face flat with shadows for "depth"?

>I GONNA KILL MYSELF
>dont kill yourself dude.

>ALRIGHT I NOT GONNA KILL MYSELF

some one show superman comics to those people.

>>365876928
It's one to have classes like medic or sniper, it's another to have specific characters.The whole point of Overwatch are the "heroes." They even each have individual names for that reason. It's the reason it sells so well. If it were just a shooter with 16 (or whatever the amount is) generic classes, it wouldn't sell as well. For that same reason is why they tried to give them each personality.

Bf also has classes, but in that case they're just nameless soldiers not named characters because that's the whole point, it's not about the individual.

>>365877443
>The point was that most games try to keep the player busy with something other than gameplay
All those games do wrong.

>>365877447
What does BioWare have to do with this?

>>365877294
Not sure whether you lived in a rock, but KZ2 and 3 were pretty much praised for it's multiplayer and shooting. SF was mediocre, but had great visuals.

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>>365865919
>3:07

HAHAHAHAHAH

>>365876956
maybe she just has a "i am going to murder you and everyone you love" kind of resting face.

>>365877419
Got stung by bees. pls kill meh

>>365877419
UH, RACIST AND SEXIST MUCH?

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>>365872585
>/v/tendo
new fags are fucking anoying

the national sport of /v/ is shiting on nintendo

>>365877419
>black Na'vi

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>all these niggers and strong wymen that needs NO man

>>365865919

>hey brom you should leave forever

>good idea

>no brother don't go!

>follow me and i'll kill myself

>gee alloy, you made the right decision

Am I fucking crazy or does the ending make no goddamn sense?

>>365877545
Sounds like something off those late night comedy central shows

>>365877553
oh i just assumed it was a bioware game because of how shitty it looked
i dont keep up with this stuff

>>365876721
None of that has anything to do with what art is. The only logically consistent definition of the word "art" is something deliberately (read: not involuntarily) made by a human for the purpose of being "art." If it wasn't made for the purpose of being "art" then it's not art. Overwatch and Pong are not art because they are not made to be art, they are made to be something akin to a virtual playground. Tetris is in between somewhere. Most single player games, like let's say Super Mario 64, are made to be "art." Of course with this definition you could argue the same thing as you just did and I wouldn't necessarily disagree, but you can't just make up definitions of the word art. The reason people have retarded "are video games art?" debates are because no one fucking knows what art means.

And when I said video games can't not have plot I wasn't referring to non-"art" games like Overwatch and Pong (again Tetris is more on the fence). Those have nothing in common with Super Mario 64, they are only considered "video games" because the term is used way too broadly

>>365877548
>BF
>It's not about the individual

I wish this were still true but each installment it gets easier and easier to one many army the entire enemy team

>>365877693
nice meme bro

>>365877419
i didn't watch the video to this point so i am sincerly not sure.

>>365877703
It's probably designed to be impossible to make a "wrong" decision. No matter what you do people will support you because the protag's VA doesnt want to be mean and they dont want the player to feel like they're making mistakes.

>>365877473
I doubt either of these games would have been fun with or without a focus on story
Most of the discussion on /v/ is about stories and characters, no one only discusses the gameplay, even if that is the most important part. That shit is what makes games memorable and gets discussion going

>>365877548
>it's another to have specific characters
And that is a waste of time.

>It's the reason it sells so well.
And spending money on that trash is also the reason why it lacks content and things like dedicated servers.

> it wouldn't sell as well
Which speaks bounds about Blizzard when they can't sell a multiplayer shooter with it's gameplay alone.

>is why they tried to give them each personality.
It's because they are incompetent developers.

>but in that case they're just nameless soldiers not named characters because that's the whole point, it's not about the individual.
What does that have to do with the pointless action of writing characters for multiplayer games?

>>365877764
You don't keep up with videogames even though you are in the videogame board?

>>365877473
Obviously games that are defined by competition don't have real stories. At most it's cosmetic fluff or large overarching plots that can fit to a faction based system. It's defined by the competition.

Besides, how is it a waste? It's not like making a story takes time away from the gameplay development really. They're not done by the same groups of people. If a game is gonna suck it's gonna suck, getting rid of a plot wouldn't change it.

>>365877703
It can't be stressed enough how fast the nigger got over with her brother's suicide.

>>365877918
>/v/
>about vidya
/v/ does every other topic better.

>>365877828

might as well tell me to go back to /pol/ if your argument is merely funposting.

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>playing for the dialogue
lmao

>>365875903
>Reservoir Dogs amd One Million Dollar Baby for example, are okay movies.
>fedora flick made by a literal cuckold and a pedestrian oscar bait
Okay, kid. Try watching a kino some time instead of your IMDB trash.

>>365877957
>Obviously games that are defined by competition don't have real stories
Thing is, most videogames are based on competition, whether against other players, or the AI.
It's all about beating something.
Except things like Animal Crosing, of course.

>>365877989
If you are here to talk about anything but videogames maybe you should finally give in to your suicidal tendencies, the board would improve greatly.

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>>365867852

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>>365878056
i dont give a shit where you go

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>>365878071
If this footage gets out, no one's playing this shit.

>>365878134
>kino
/tv/ manchild detected.
How about you go fight over which superhero movie is the most epic movie of epicness ever, you failed abortion?

>>365878134
>based clint
>ever making oscar bait

Admittedly that's not his best work but still

>>365878134
>Resevoir Dogs
>Fedora Flick

What a Mr. Pink

>>365878071
>Playing a game where Ashley Burch narrates everything happening constantly for 8-20 hours

Finishing this game deserves a platinum trophy in itself.

Why does she keep shaking after she mentions his strength ? It's so fucking uncanny.

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>>365878071
Yeah cause the Farcry gameplay looks so good to make up for it.

>>365867382
There's not any excuse now with the tech they are using. This game is going to be shit if you can't get at least somewhat attached to the characters you'll be playing with.
Such bland facial animation, no feeling in the dialogue, stiff character movement. The game is shit glossed over with decent graphics.

>>365877858

Why bother trying to set up a morally ambiguous situation then? Even fucking Bioware would be smart enough to have the sister get pissed at you for doing exactly the thing she argues against for the entire scene.

>>365867527
FEEL THE POWER OF MY MAAAAAGIIIIIIIC

Meh, not that bad. Show me any truly example of sidestory and cutscene in any game. Games are simply not meant to be compared to books and movies. Not yet.

>>365877464
Please, do explain why Pokemon isn't an RPG.

>>365878629
*truly better

>>365878297
Capeshit was brought to /tv/ by tourists from the degenerate plebeian boards like /v/, /sp/ and /co/. The authentic /tv/ sensibilities dictate that every consumer of capeshit, video games or memetic tv shows (i.e GoT, Walking Dead, Breaking Bad) should be killed for the good of cinema.

Quentin Tarantino is almost as bad as capeshit by the way.

>>365878629
Hmm....Yeah. Seriously compels me to ponder...

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>>365878250
This WILL sell millions, nobody but autistic contrarians care about muh dialogue
>>365878390
eh? ok
>>365878448
Not at all like farcry. Stop being contrarian and poor

>>365867008
Holy fuck they've actually been striking all this time? The media stopped caring months ago

>>365878798
0/10

>>365878629
Vidya kino coming through
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3aBVqOFUao

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>>365878798
>This WILL sell millions

>>365878629
If you think every sidequest in every game is as bad as that then you havent played very many games at all.

>>365878173
I mean competition as in

>team based (could 1v1 1v4, etc)
>scoring in some way
>divided into matches
>set goals for each match

Among other hallmarks of what a competitive game is.

Yeah you can technically call a game like Max Payne a competition to beat the AI in a gun fight, but that's a cop out. Or Mario a competition against the environment, but that's also a cop out. I mean a real competitive game that can be played with other people. Games like that are defined by beating the other team or person. Yeah some of them have AI bots, but most people will tell you that playing multiplayer shooter against bots isn't as fun.

>>365878757
>Capeshit was brought to /tv/ by tourists
And you residues completely embraced, let's not forget you are the moronic shits who flood the board with Star Wars threads whenever one of those creatively bankrupt turds comes out discussing their half-assed writing, or that /tv/ is also the board that had for 2 weeks, 30 threads about Mad Max Fury Road in the catalog at all times trying to force le ebin memes that never caught on, or the place with a Reddit embassy under the name of /got/ general.

>The authentic /tv/ sensibilities dictate that
That you have to banepost and spam threads about underage actors?
/tv/ is a shithole that, if nuked, no one would miss.

>>365878949
>kino
That's not german.

>>365878515
>Why bother trying to set up a morally ambiguous situation then?
Cause they're hacks and this game is made for normie-babbies?

Nah that cant be it.

>>365876836
>Nothing against Burch personally
Why not?

>>365878949
>''kino''
>a garbage franchise made because the jews at Disney and Square Enix wanted a crossover between their licenses
It's a franchise born out of guys in suits.
Kill yourself.

>>365865919
The writing is fine. The voice acting is abysmal.

>>365878707
You can't really roleplay or say anything in that game. You're options are what Pokemon you have in your party and if you can say yes or no but in a game like Doom you can choose what weapons you're going to primarily use and doom isn't and rpg. In Dishonored there are yes or no questions but it isn't an rpg either. Again I don't think you know what an rpg is

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>>365878798
>This WILL sell millions
Yes, and it WILL be boring slop.
This game is the equivalent of the Transformers movies.

Is that will forte? I love will forte

>>365879152
Did you even watch it? It's pure kino. Nomura is a genius. I can't wait for his FF7 remake with no interference from hacks tabata

>>365871535
>this what tortanic created

>>365878949
I'm sorry, but this is pretty bad.
>>365878992
Can you think of anything? I've never played a game and felt something of that transcendence great literature or even film imparts to the experiencer.

>>365879225
>You're
Your*

>>365879012
>And you residues completely embraced
Nope. The hardcore /tv/ elite continue to fight capeshit, star shit and general meme shit at every turn. The problem is that actual /tv/ (pre-2009 posters) are a tiny minority compared to the /v/eddit hordes who push their video game sensibility dogshit and IMDBcore at every turn.

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>>365878893
kys memester
>>365878959
Yes it WILL and you know it deep inside
>>365879253
Have you played it ? Looks fun as fuck, stop being contrarian

>>365879152
He meant Christopher Lee voice-acting, which is obviously gonna be awesome, even if the writing is whatever.

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>>365878490
>>365878714
Well, since we're on the subject of Playstation exclusives, how about The Last of Us

Even the weakest moments of the game are still delivered much more convincingly than the shit we've all just watched. Characters don't stare blankly at each other as their faces morph from one robotic expression to another like somebody was screwing around with them in Mario fucking 64.

The characters actually move naturally and not like they're a middle schooler moving from each spot on stage they're supposed to be on at that exact time.

Please go back to defending the new Ghostbusters.

>month upon month of Sonygger hype has lead to their inability to admit the glaring flaws on display and resort to shrieking about Nintendo

Sonyponies literally need therapy

>>365879360
you sound incredibly pretentious

It looks like a fun game. I'll play it

>>365879168
>The writing is fine.
>do not follow, goodbye
>k

>>365868853

Horizon: ZeroIf you read this your mother dies in her sleep tonight

>>365879276
>I love will forte
If you love any Hillary shilling Jew enabling reddit comedian then you need to end yourself.

>>365879504
Banned

>>365879390
>Have you played it ? Looks fun as fuck, stop being contrarian
Yes, I've played it like 3 times already.. it's called the Far Cry series. Stop eating up every single AAA title without looking at it critically.

>>365879516
He's funny. I don't care about his politics.

>>365879468
How? I'm literally excusing them. If I were pretentious I would say it fucking sucks.

>>365879410
>>365879360
The writing is fantastic, you guys are actually too dumb for kH it's embarrassing

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>>365865919
>0:50

I like it how his face resets position right before cutting into Travolta.

>>365867382
This. This kills my immersion in every game like this. I'd literally rather have silence and some basic mouth movement accompanied by a text box than this.