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Will Persona 5 live up to the hype? Thinking of buying a PS3

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Will Persona 5 live up to the hype? Thinking of buying a PS3 for it because it looks like it's finally getting a game, but /v/ hasn't been talking a lot about it since it released in Japan.
Was it a bad game, or did people just not want to learn moonspeak and import?
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>Goro Akechi
>Tohru Adachi

Those names sound a little too similar don't you think?
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>playing on ps3

LMAO
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Pretty hyped, desu. Nothing to talk about until launch, though. I guess we could just turn this into an Anne thread.
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>why arent people talking about this game that is yet to be released

Boy you are a special kind of stupid
A poorfag too it seems.
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>>365775016
That's fine too.
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>>365774449
>Thinking of buying a PS3 for it
Spend the extra $150-200 and just get a PS4 you retard.
>/v/ hasn't been talking a lot about it since it released in Japan
That's because hardly anyone on /v/ knows Japanese.
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>>365774873
Yes because everyone desperately needs to be running P5 on a PS4 to get to see all the amazing textures on the highest performance settings possible
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>>365775143
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>>365775420
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>>365775284
I'm going to be blowing my money on a Switch a month before P5 comes out, I can't afford to buy a PS4. I'd probably have enough money for a PS3, though. I also just want the "PS3 has no games" joke to live on in one form or another.
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>>365775323

LMAO POORFAG enjoy your load times and dead system
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>>365774449
>/v/ hasn't been talking a lot about it since it released in Japan.
lots of people are avoiding making or posting in P5 threads because they want to avoid spoilers.
I've done pretty good so far. All I know is 'someone' betrays you, and that's happened in every Persona game to date so it hardly comes unexpected
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>>365775553
>makes no games jokes
>buys a switch on launch

You cant make this up
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>>365774449
Most people don't speak Japspeak and any honest P5 thread is just asking to get spoiled on /v/(or practically anywhere online).
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>>365774449
Its gonna be discussed non-stop no matter it lives up to the hype.

Waifu games never dies
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>>365775563
hmm yes, i suppose spending 300 dollars plus online subscription to do anything online is the way to go to play a game made for an actually good console. this way underageb&s won't laugh at me for not being hip n with it.
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>>365775680
Zelda looks a lot like a game.
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>>365775504

>>365775685
Oh shit, you're totally right about spoilers. I'm gonna blow this Ann thread, can't know what happens.
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>>365776003
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>>365776087
Keep the posts coming
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>>365776294
I need a good reason to.
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>mfw after begging Atlus for 2 weeks via email I paid $150 for an early release copy
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>>365776371
Then give me a reason to play these games.
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>>365774449
For me it lived up to the hype.

>>365775323
The game is actually pretty damn stunning. Areas look amazing.
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>>365776608
Fine fine. More Ann.
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>>365776798
thanks dawg, you da real mvp
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>>365777531
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It was Japan's GOTY.
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>>365777597
There.
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>>365777615

Because it has major NTR.
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>>365777652
Ace, are you /our guy/?
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>>365777652
very nice senpai.
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>>365776390
In like a month or two? No way the game's gone gold yet.
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>PS3
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>>365777769
I-I don't know.

>>365777785
It's cool.
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>This Annfag posting his slut as if anyone cares
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>>365774449
I want to fuck this NEET.
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>>365778125
I like all girls anon.
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>>365775885
>needing to buy an online sub
>p5

youre trying too hard man, why would you buy a dead system when you can own a ps4 that actually has good games coming out? I've never needed ps+ to enjoy the system and I don't ever plan on getting it
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>>365778253
>>365778125
post more sensei
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>>365778368
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>>365774449
>but /v/ hasn't been talking a lot about it since it released in Japan.

Cause anyone that bothered to import it is in /pg/. You can get banned for talking about the game here due to spoilers so there is really no conversation.
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mfw played it 5 months ago and EOPs are still waiting
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>>365777769
>/ourguy/
>tripfag

these pics get posted in every p5 thread
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daily reminder that Anne is Ryuji's canonical girlfriend
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>>365778542

I don't think you understand what a tripfag is.
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>>365778531
You lie.
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>>365774449
SMELLY
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>>365774449
Just beat the Lolis last night. Funnest fight in the series. The game is absolutely phenomenal, and the few nitpicks I have are pretty minor, everything else was executed perfectly. I didn't think it would top P3, but it did. Honestly it was airtight from start to finish, and I genuinely pity those of you that spoiled the game for yourselves. I hope you EOPs enjoy Futaba's "localized" dialog, because they're going to rape it to hell and back.

Also don't listen to anything in the general. I went there once and it's just a bunch of faggots who haven't actually played it and circlejerk Goro, or played it but didn't understand it because their moon is shit.
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>>365778615


Not after my playthrough.
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>>365778542
That's half right. Still I post something that hasn't been posted yet. Or very rarely.
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>>365778686
>he thinks anyone believes he knows Japanese

LMAO
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>>365778729

>tfw cucked outta girlfriend
>tfw cucked outta sports scholarship
>tfw cucked outta future
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>>365778640
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>>365776983
mein dick
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>>365778634
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>>365778848
It only takes around twelve years to gain basic proficiency.
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>>365778686
I wonder how they are going to localize how Futaba and Ryuji talks. I feel like Ryuji's localized lines will be pretty cringey.
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>>365774449
Oh this is on ps3? I might actually get this then.
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>>365778848
I used to reply to these kinds of posts in Japanese until I realized that people who literally don't know a word of moon will just respond with angry "Y-Yeah, nice N3 moon!" shitposting.

It's ok anon, maybe in your next life you won't be born retarded and could maybe open a book and learn moon.

>>365778729
>Picking Ann
She's a great friend and fun to hang out with, but not girlfriend material.

>>365779306
Futaba is going to be Borderlands 2: the character.
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>>365774449
Everyone who actually cares already knows it's the best game in the franchise. The only people who will disagree are the faggot casuals who started with 3 or 4 that will claim whichever game they started with is STIL DA BES.
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>>365774873
Its an RPG kid.
You aren't going need 60fps to enjoy it
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>>365779306
WASSUP PERSONA
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>>365778729
>Cucking your bro
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>>365779306
>I feel like Ryuji's localized lines will be pretty cringey.
They'll make him sound like some tryhard cool kid.
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>>365779391
>learning a useless gook language instead of something useful like Mandarin

Weebs should just give up
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I waited 9 years for this...
Waiting on this game even cost me a friendship.
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>>365779480
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I beat it.

It is a good game game play wise, but its story isn't that different from P4. It has less likable characters than either P3 or P4
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>>365779391
Did you pick best girl too?
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>>365779584
>Waiting on this game even cost me a friendship.
Elaborate.That a game like Persona which values the bonds with the people cost you a friendship is ironic and kinda sad at the same time
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>>365779557
>Mandarin vs. Japanese
The alphabet is the biggest hurdle and they share most of them.
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>>365779409

Persona 5 is casualized to hell. The people who played the games already won't tell you this since they can't bear shit talking the Persona series.

>Sneaking is so easy it is GUARANTEED your party will go first
>Big WEAK right next to the skill you need to use on an enemy
>Futaba buffing you every 2 secs
>Slinks skills break the game even more
>"""""Bosses"""" wasting their one turn buffing themselves

Persona 3 will forever be the best Persona.
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>>365779704
The biggest hurdle to Japanese is the fact that there are only five sounds in the entire language so every word sounds exactly the same.
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>>365779628
>but its story isn't that different from P4. It has less likable characters than either P3 or P4
If you said P3 well everyone has their opinion but P4 nigga...
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>>365775553
So you're a retard, got it. End yourself, poorfag console warrior.
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>>365779751
>Persona 3 will forever be the best Persona.
>No direct control
Good try
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>>365779768
Whatever, I only caring about reading it.
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>>365779695
longg story short, I was so obsessed with P5's release date I wouldn't stop talking or thinking about it. Really annoyed my ex friend. The straw that broke the camel's back was when I used up his data on his phone trying to do my own investigation on P5's release. This was 2012.
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>>365779751
Sounds pretty fun desu.
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>>365779937

>Muh direct control

Persona 3 portable heard of it?

Also direct control breaks my immersion.
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>>365779982
>Persona 3 portable
pukinganimegirl.jpg
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>>365779441

If my VN dialogue windows aren't in 60fps/1080p, it totally ruins my immersion.

t. TotalBiscuit
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>>365779982
>Persona 3 portable heard of it?
Yeah an horrible and butchered port FeMC is the only saving grace
>Also direct control breaks my immersion.
Haha
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>>365778729
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>>365779751
Hard mode opens up true hell.
Plus once you start running low on SP, you need to start avoiding battles by sneaking around enemies. Then if you fuck up and get caught, it becomes an even bigger problem. I thought it was easy until I switched to hard mode around 40% into the game

>>365779768
No it doesn't. Step up your listening comprehension.
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>>365780120
>Not going hard mode right off the bat
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>>365779557
>Third biggest economy in the world
>Top ranked universities and livable country
No you're right, I should have learned Chinese so I could move there to get cheated at work and eat gutter oil with the other animals there. Go be a stupid kid who doesn't actually know anything somewhere else.

>>365779628
This is an outright lie.

>>365779640
Yes I picked Futaba, but why did you post the Mary Sue?

>>365779768
This guy gets it.
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>>365779751
Going first was already guaranteed in 4. In 3, half the time the enemy will detect tou even if you're entirely at their six o clock so you don't get the advantage even if you get the attack.
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>>365780120
>No it doesn't. Step up your listening comprehension.
It's the entire reason they use Kanji. The phonetic limitations of the language necessitate it. Stupid weeb.
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>>365780262
>Going first was already guaranteed in 4. In 3

No it wasn't.
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>>365780229
I was too scared.

>>365780235
>Mary Sue
Anon please
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>>365774449
Yeah it's pretty good. I hope you enjoy it, OP.
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>>365780375

It was for me. Maybe I'm just really lucky.
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Story is very similar to Persona 4 in many ways
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>>365780619
>Story is very similar to Persona 4 in many ways
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>>365780430
>I'm Queen, I'm the 世紀末覇者 who knows martial arts, has a sweet revolver, comes up with almost all the ideas, is always cool and collected (except when it's gap moe time and I scream for oneesan, has good grades but isn't conceited, does most of the talking and negotiating, and even drives the escape car. Also my ass is phat
She was very clearly someone's waifu and they tried way too hard to shill her in the game.
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>>365780619
Wrong
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>>365780820
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>>365780862
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>>365780814
what
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>>365780619
Where is that this coming from?
It really isn't.

>>365780768
>Also my ass is phat
That it is, my friend. But really, she has her flaws too. Her naivete to the things around her. Her strive to always be perfect and do the right thing, her pushing everyone away (post development). Not to mention her no-fun attitude sometimes, like in that pic.
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>>365780939
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>>365780768
This is exactly why I liked Chie. I felt like the game devs wanted me to like the other girls, and I guess I'm a contrarian.
Who's the contrarian choice in 5?
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>>365780814
Best girl.
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>>365780619
The only similarity is that the traitor is close to the main party, and that's the definition of traitor.
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>ps3
How do you not have a ps4 yet?
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>>365780919
Wish this image wasn't ruined by the dirty toilet stall.
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>>365781000
She really didn't though. Mituru in P3 was naive, Makoto is a bit sheltered bit you literally tell her "Maybe you should change" and her response is "Yeah ok, that sounds reasonable."

Your waifu is a Mary Sue, it's ok to be a pleb, just don't pretend you're not.
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>>365781234

Gimme sensei!
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>>365781302
It only has one game.
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>>365781234
If I get the fucking cat again I swear on me mum
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Persona 5 looks really nice, but I'm not sure if I can be arsed to dig out my PS3 and modify it just to play this game.
It's a lot of work.
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>>365781134
Why not just pick the one you like? I guess the least popular choice would be the shogi chuuni.
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>PS3
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>>365781303
I know I have same issue with it. Oh well.
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>>365781234
Rolling for best girl.
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>>365781215
Which is the same as 3, and most JRPGs for that matter.
Also >>365781234
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>>365781234
What
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>>365781134
Haru,Ichiko or Chihaya
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>>365781485
Congratulations, you got her.
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>>365781234
What's this scene?
If you confess to more than one girl?

>>365781305
Makoto was very sheltered and pushed to do shit she never wanted to do her whole life though. Once she joined the crew, she clearly wanted to change, but even then she still struggled for a bit.
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DON'T YOU

FORGET ABOUT ME
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>>365781485
Her romance killed me. You poor EOPs are going to get the worst translations for her lines.
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>>365780319
I thought it was because they have no spaces in their languages and need kanji to differentiate words. They are limited though. 46 fucking letters in their two regular alphabets and they still only have like half the sounds of english. Trash language.
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>>365781485
Good job.
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>>365781692
While the Kanji helps for that, can you imagine reading only in Hiragana even with spaces?
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>>365781662
She did not struggle at all. The closest she came to struggling about anything was feeling conflicted about going behind her sisters back.
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>>365781760
I can, it's not hard or anything. Although it's probably better if you have kanji for common words. Otherwise you get a wall of text.
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>>365781692
>half the sounds of english
I'm guessing you're a native english speaker? because having as many sounds as the english language makes it unnecessary difficult.
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>>365781834
And during her cooperation if she was meddling too much in whatsherface's affairs. And it's mainly cause she was struggling with the decision on if she should change or not but didn't have the courage to do it until the squad came along.

>>365781760
That's easy as pie. You'd just get endless text that could have been shortened by a large margin.
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>>365781000
>trips
>Onsokumaru likes the girl with the biggest ass

pottery
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>>365782201
Meddling too much? She was about to be pimped out like a whore, she probably saved the girl's life. Jesus Christ, take your waifu googles off.
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>>365781110
WHAT
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>>365782578
Well yeah but she wasn't sure of that at first. She often wondered if she was overreacting at first. What makes a character like Ann or Futaba any less Mary Su?
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>>365781234
9 please
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>>365774449
The Japanese liked it no? I'll defer to their expertise.

Christ I even preordered it for some reason and I NEVER preorder.
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>>365778253
>I like all girls anon.
good taste
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>>365780491
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>>365782891
>She "worried" transiently about something while she was objectively doing the right thing
You're pretending to be stupid, right?

>Ann
>Dumb but friendly airhead
>Futaba
>Wanted to die and then needs weeks to learn to go shopping by herself without wanting to hide in her room
>Mary Sues
Are you not pretending to be retarded or do you really not understand that Makoto is good at everything, has no actual flaws, isn't stuck up about her social standing, is assertive without being bitchy and is almost always in the leader role during plot scenes?
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>Persona radio, FukuJun and Aoi hosting
>fan-mail asking Aoi if she didn't feel she had a lot in common with Futaba while voicing her
>Aoi tells an anecdote about talking with one of the producers at her agency sometime after the game out
>"Oh, I finally got P5. I am really glad you were the one to voice Futaba"
>"...but you were pretty much just acting as yourself, right?"
Also, FukuJun's favorite girl is Sadayo.
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hey bruhs

I'm a fag and have never played p3 or p4 without a guide to get all s. links. I don't intend to play p5 blind. how long do you think it will take for a guide to come out? have the japs already made one?
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>>365783691
Futaba was actually my favorite role by her, and I really want to believe she acts like that in her daily life.
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please tell me she is a waifu option
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>>365783891
She is. All the girls except Sae are. If you want cakes, go for Kawakami sensei. She's best girl next to Futaba.
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kiss futaba
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>>365783762
There could already be one now written by people who've played the jap version. Check gamefags.
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>>365783891
She is kill.
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>>365781234
Letsa go
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>>365784071
There's a good wiki, but no day by day guide. Play it twice, you need NG+ for the best fight anyways.

>>365784104
No she's not, fuck off.
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>>365779704
Chinese is a pretty useful language to learn because in Asia it is like English in the West.

And with China quickly becoming the global leader (thanks Trump) the relevancy of the language increases every day. My own country has been following the flow of money for the last 500 years and it is beginning to flow to Shanghai and not New York.

BUT WHY THE FUCK DOES IT HAVE TO BE SO HARD

Well I'm sure Chinamen feel the same way about English, a small consolation.
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>>365784219
>China is going to be a global leader
Hahahahaha
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>>365783526
You're the one pretending to be stupid. In the dynamic she's the one that keeps everyone in check and spoils their fun. Ths happens numerous times. Just because she leads the group doesn't make her a Mary Su. Plus Futaba is damn near perfect too. You just gave an example of pre-developed Futaba to post developed Makoto. By the end she's the perfect super smart hacker girl who always wants to be by your side.
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>>365783891
She goes with you to your old town in the ending if you choose her.
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I usually don't give a shit about dual audio, but the voices they've revealed are pretty fucking shit apart from Anne. At the same time I don't know if I can listen to squeaky nip voices for 80 hours
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>>365784219
>China quickly becoming the global leader

China's entire economy is based on poisoning their citizens and stealing intellectual property. Not to mention their military is functionally garbage.
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>>365784308
Why are you always so offensively stupid? Name one time she actually ruins the fun for everyone that's not "Let's study before we go party", and then explain how the fuck Futaba is a Mary Sue. Even after her development she still has trouble with crowds, people and common sense. She's a smart hacker, that's not a Mary Sue. Being in charge, smart, having social standing and being amiable is a Mary Sue.
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>>365784632
Don't forget the massive real estate bubble
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>>365783812
Out of the top of my head, Aoi is
>energetic, quirky
>sizeable powerlevel
>single daughter. very much a daddy's girl, and very attached to her family in general
>kind of behaves like a old man in a young girl body
>extremely short(Futaba is 149cm, Aoi is 145cm)
>spends a nice chunk of her free-time online
I wouldn't be too surprised if Futaba was made with Aoi in mind.
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>>365785016
She's so perfect it hurts. I'd love to meet her and just ask about what she does in her free time and stuff. I want to know how high her powerlevel is.
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>>365784602
Just play the game twice. 1 in english and 1 in nip. If the option is there, I usually just switch occasionally
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>>365784632
Keep believing that anon I just hope whoever manages your pension fund is smarter.
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>>365785543
Oh god, you actually think China isn't a bubble that's going to burst, don't you? You poor soul.
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>thread is full of nothing but shit taste

Thank god I showed up and posted something patrician
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>>365785963
>not Lavenza
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>>365785963
The lolis are great and I love their dialog, but you can't date them. They do have a crush on you, though, and their fight is the best in the game. I think I actually like them more than Liz
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>>365785963
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high tier fetish fuel
0/10 platform to play it on
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>>365775685
>>365776003
Been worried about that too but I need good ann pictures to masturbate to while I wait for two months
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>>365786041
All the same girl, all the same best

>>365786109
P5 golden when
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>>365786476
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>>365779628
>It has less likable characters than either P3 or P4
>P4
It's shit then.
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>>365774449

I liked it, more than 3 and 4, which I wasn't thrilled with. I didn't go into it with huge expectations though, I went in with barely any, which is my secret to minimizing disappointment with video games.
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>>365787117
He's completely wrong.

>>365786476
I'm praying some save data carries over in the next version.
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>>365774449
From the stream of it I watch it looks amazing
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>>365779960
You have issues, anon.
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Played the JP version when it came out. It's a great game, very polished and long.

I hope they make a P5 Arena with the lolis playable.
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>>365781234
Rolling for anything not shit
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>>365778205
I fucked that NEET
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>>365789316
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Going by stuff like Amazon reviews Japan really loved P5, and they've been shitting on a lot of their games recently.
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>>365774449
I played it through twice, and loved it. Some people will not enjoy 'down' time between the palaces. I can read and speak moon so it feels like this came out a decade ago. If there is anything you wish to know, I can tell you about it but that runs the fun.
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>>365789704
That's because it actually delivered on all its promises while the others failed. It's the Trump of video games.
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>>365789863
Don't spoil actual plot points for them. I went in completely blind and was blown away by everything from the casino onwards. I'd love to explain why the game was so well crafted but I don't want to spoil them because fuck spoilerfags and fuck idiots who read spoilers and then shitpost with fake info.
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>>365789884
Funny because the final boss talks about making japan great again
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>>365789863
Okay. Try your best to sell the game without mentioning spoliers. Or hell be vague as fuck. That works too.
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>>365789863
How is the downtime paced through the game? Is it like P3/P4 where it's best to just do dungeons in one day or do you go back to them for some reason?
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>>365790251
When I fought him I actually thought "Hah, he's literally what liberals pretend Trump is."
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>>365776684
P4 is my FGOAT. The only real criticism of the game I've heard is that it's similar to P4. If that's it's biggest issue, then I'm expecting the game to be my all time favorite. It looks so fucking good, only a few more months.
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I fucking hate jrpg sometimes when sidekicks are fucking gay, like all the girls oxidating around the main fucking character, all those sidekicks are like No Way Fag !
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>>365790437
P4 is far and away the worst, and P5 isn't like it at all. Not one bit.
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>>365789316
Why is Futaba so god damn fucking cute?
Is it because she's one of us?
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>>365783060
You preordered the Take Your Heart edition, right big bro?
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>>365781303
But what makes the pic IS the dirty toilet stall.
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>>365781674
Is anyone going to pick her?
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>>365790632
To be fair, I would say 3 should be my favorite. I like just about everything more. But I had a personal experience with 4, and it's got emotional value for that. How would you rank the games, I'm actually interested.
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>>365791294
Overall?
5>3>>2>>>1=4
Different games have different things going for them though, so it's hard to just give a rank without explaining, but I don't want to spoil 5 because it's genuinely a fantastic experience. 4 and 1 are ranked the lowest. 1 has a good story and characters, but bad gameplay, 4 is the opposite.
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Are there any shit that locked behind NG+ again?
I fucking hate that gimmick since I rarely do more than 1 playthrough in every game I've played.
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Any Importation nigga know if P5 is gonna be one of those shitty dual layer disk's? My ps3 cant candle their girth anymore desu, it needs a new lense.
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>>365790109
I'll try to be as vague as possible.
>>365790303
This is pretty hard considering the story is one of the games biggest selling points, but I'll give it a whirl. The game is part life sim, in the same vein as Shenmue and of course the Persona games before. It is also a turn based RPG with a fairly large group of characters all of which you will get to know through personal missions and game progression. It deals with some pretty heavy themes. The game has full dungeons and procedurally made dungeons. If you enjoy turn based RPGs, and or life sim games this one would be up your alley.
>>365790357
The down time can be hard at some points in the game. Especially if you are the type to power level. You get a set amount of days to complete the dungeon. Each one only lets you go so far before the game stops you from going in and you have to wait for the last possible day. It wasn't uncommon for me to finish everything that I could do in a dungeon and have like half a month of in game days to fuck around eating Big Bang Burgers and hanging out in the hot tub. There is plenty to do while you wait for the 'perfect moment' to finish the dungeon. Some times when you don't have a cooperation ready it can be a tad frustrating waiting, but that all ends up part of the fun.
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>>365781234
I'll take a 8 with a 2 on the side.
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>>365792208
Good job.
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>>365791796
Yes. There is an optional thing you can do in a new game plus, but It will be spoiled quickly if you just want to see it. I'm sure it will be on Youtube pretty fast.
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>>365792208
I'll take a numbah 9 and a numbah 9 large
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>>365791796
Yeah one bossfight and one Persona fusion.
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>>365792192
Another thing that I can't believe I left out: The music is great.
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>>365791796
The best boss fight in the series. It's actually fun and hard (I initially thought it was unwinnable) and not like Liz where it's "Do exactly these moves on this order or lose". The dialog with it is also top notch.

>>365792192
Don't forget that the social links actually help your thief activities as Sae explains them, as opposed to being random friends you make. I appreciated that a lot. The rest you really need to play for. Words don't do the atmosphere justice, nor can they explain the skillful way the climax is set up.
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>>365792815
A RIVER IN A DRY LAND
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>>365792192
>It wasn't uncommon for me to finish everything that I could do in a dungeon and have like half a month of in game days to fuck around eating Big Bang Burgers and hanging out in the hot tub
That's still a great improvement over p4. In p4 I usually find myself spending one day in the dungeons out of every month to month and half (whenever you get a new one).
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>>365774449
Just get a PS4 senpai
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>>365793259
Not him, but in P4 the long "you don't get to play" segments a boring as hell. In P5 they're actually fun/interestint and plot related.
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>>365793896
That's a relief. Although I was more wondering if the two sections feel as disjointed as they do in the other games.
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>>365792815
I actually love the games so much that I double dipped on it and bought an ENG copy of it, and plan on going throught all of it again. I'm interested to see how the unspoken dialogue is localized. There is a metric ton of it. I've been tempted to fire it up again, but I promised myself that I have to wait for the ENG release before I play it again, just to help give me that extra incentive to be chomping at the bit, but the time release rolls around. Plus I have a backlog to get through anyway.
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>>365794117
Oh not at all. If you're not playing/able to enter dungeons, it's because important shit is happening in the world with the characters.
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>>365794598
except in the summer when you're doing things with Futaba that easily could've been covered by her co-op instead
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>>365795058
You mean 4 days at the end of August to introduce her to the cast?

Besides, she's best girl so it's ok.
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>>365794598
>>365793896
>>365792192
I kinda regret asking anything because now the hype is just killing me again
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>>365795268
It was more than four days, but yes she's the second or third best so it's not a big deal
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>>365774449
>Will Persona 5 live up to the hype?
Clearly not but it should be good at least
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It can't be a good as Berseria so why even bother thinking about it?
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>>365795482
?
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>>365774770
Delete this
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>>365783891
Yeah but she's like the worst waifu in the game
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>>365795374
One day with group A, one day with group B, trying on bathing suits, then beach day. What did I miss? The obligatory post dungeon regrouping day?

Anyways, glad we agree she's best girl.

>>365795452
It does though.
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>>365796180
>room cleaning
>fireworks with Sojiro there
there was one other but I don't really remember what it was
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>>365796469
Room cleaning was while she took out Mejiedo, so it was story stuff. Wasn't fireworks at night after the bathing suits day?
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>>365796669
cleaning her room is in no way story related
fireworks was not the same day, you waste an entirely separate day afterward for that one scene which was kind of dumb
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>>365789863
How much anime cut scenes do we get? I've always wished there were more in the other games.
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>>365797131
every dungeon gets at least one, the end game ones get 2-3
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>>365797003
You clean her room while she's taking out Mejiedo. You always have a day after dungeons where the target confesses and the crisis is averted, that's what that day was. You and Mor cleaning her room to kill time while she clears that mess up doesn't change that.

What happened on fireworks morning, I don't recall? Either way, that's 5 days chilling with Futaba. Not remotely comparable to the stuff in P4.

>>365797290
Hearing Jun actually voice a full line at the end made me sad the MC didn't get to talk more. That's probably my biggest issue with the game. I know it's a self insert VN type thing, but just give him a damn voice and dialog, especially when his seiyuu is fucking Lelouch.
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liked Catherine, would it be good to get in this series? don't typically play nip games.

Whats the console to get to play them all?
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If Atlus USA wasn't horrible we'd be playing in 2 weeks
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>>365797774
just get P5 when it comes out m8
you really don't need to bother with the years of sexual frustration 3 and 4 built up with the fanbase
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>>365797290
Not even. Madarame, Kaneshiro, and Okumura's get none.
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>>365797902
Madarame's gets Yusuke's intro, Kaneshiro gets one the first time they enter the palace, Okumura gets the live stream
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>>365798025
>Madarame's gets Yusuke's intro
That's hardly a "dungeon" cutscene.
I don't have a clue what you're talking about with Kaneshiro.
And Okumura's live stream is a 3D scene, not an anime cutscene.
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>>365797674
>I know it's a self insert VN type thing
I think it would still work really well since you read his unspoken dialogue anyway
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>>365798112
Actually I'm retarded, I was thinking of fucking Daybreakers ending for Kaneshiro, his dungeon does not in fact get one

And no, Okumura's was part anime cutscene, and your first point isn't really a point
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>>365798209
>And no, Okumura's was part anime cutscene
No it wasn't.
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>>365798236
are you just trying to get me to post www for wwws
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>>365797826
Thanks for fucking triggering me. Why couldn't they just release the dub as dlc instead so we could get it in February
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>>365798326
It's not an anime cutscene, it's CG.
There's a static drawing at the end of it, but the cutscene is 3D.
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>>365798496
what the actual fuck
I was told this game was an even more shonen Persona 4 with a Codename KND premise
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>>365798156
I know. I honestly don't like voiceless heroes as a rule of thumb. It would be a lot nicer to let the MC actually talk so it could feel like everyone's reactions to him were more appropriate.

The do make a joke at the end about you being a man of few words, though.
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>>365798643
Nigger read the thread, I pointed out how wrong all the "spoilers" are several times.
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>>365798375
They probably didn't do that because then no one would listen to their dub
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>>365798643
it is
all the villains are incredibly cartoony and exaggeratedly "evil", and the game boils down to you being a bunch of cool kids beating them.
while it pretends that it wants to make a commentary on the world, it never says anything of value and just uses typical shonen tropes in a more real world setting
don't expect anything deep, dark, or of value.
just persona 4 but a bit more gritty.
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>>365798962
damn that sucks
maybe if it was on PC things would be different
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>>365799008
>maybe if it was on PC things would be different
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>>365799008
If it was on PC people could just mod in a better story.
But as it stands Berseria and Undertale are the better games. What a massive fucking disappointment.
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>>365799008
>>365798962
>don't expect anything deep, dark, or of value
You're just going to have to wait for smtv if you want that and hope atlus delivers
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>>365798962
You literally didn't play the game.

>>365799008
Ignore the retard.
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>Atlus USA took 7 months to poorly translate the game and completely fucking ruin the UI
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>>365799479
anon absolutely every post in this chain has been about as ironic as possible, why would you make a reply like this
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>>365799525
Jesus Christ, my eyes.

>>365799547
I just assume that no one is pretending and people are actually retarded.
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>>365799525
at least the PS3 version has a chance for a better font
as in, I almost figured out how to replace the font in P4 and only gave up because I didn't want to put any more effort in at that point
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>>365799525
>completely fucking ruin the UI
I think they did alright considering english text looks like shit compared to kanji
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>>365799479
>You literally didn't play the game.
You're right. Kamoshida is a deep commentary on Japan's problems hierarchy and sexual assault, Madarame is a deep thought out story on plagiarism and manipulation, Kaneshiro tells a parable on greed gone wrong, Futaba shows the complexity of social anxiety and being lied to at a young age, Okumura makes a statement on employers taking advantage of the weak, and Sae and Shidou are deep deconstructions of Japan's legal system, not to mention the metacommentary Yaldabaoth serves as on the state of modern society. Truly the pinnacle of writing. Oh wait no it's just a fucking action game story with no depth to it whatsoever and they beat the antagonists with a bossfight and no actual arc or development and then the focal point of that month becomes a nobody and we move onto the next character of the month.
You're a fucking retard if you think the story is well told, or anything of value.
It's enjoyable, don't get me wrong, but it's incredibly shonen and generic.
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>>365799717
???
No they didn't. It's not fucking hard to mimic the Japanese style either.
It looks like they spent five seconds in paint and put no thought into spacing or graphic design.
My halfassed attempt at recreating it is better than what the paid staff made.
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>>365800037
For reference, here's their piece of shit.
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>>365800157
Holy fuck that's horrible

I hope those pics are an early translation build or something like that
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>>365800267
every build is an early translation build
including the final
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>>365800267
The pic here >>365799525 was officially released only days ago. With the game fairly close by, I think it's probably the UI there sticking with
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>>365799846
>I read a summary online
You didn't play the game anon, it's ok. You don't actually know what deep is, likely because you're a pretentious idiot who thinks high school required reading makes you an expert on high literature, and you underestimate the importance of personal relationships in favor of a grandiose story that goes too far up its own asshole with social commentary. It's ok, I don't blame you, I was 19 once as well. One day you'll learn that "Is it a subtle parable or long running metaphor for the human condition?" isn't actually the only question you're supposed to ask about a story.
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>>365799525
>they don't even rotate the text "Await the change of heart"
ATLUS USA WAS A MISTAKE
FIRE THEM ALL
LET THE NIPS DO THEIR OWN ENGRISH TRANSRATION, IT WILL BE LESS SHITTY
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>>365793092
So I decided to look up the art to glance at their pretty lady parts and what happened next will blow your mind!
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>>365800585
Sorry anon, but I did play the game. Got the platinum actually.
Is the idea that someone's picking at the writing quality in a game that is ultimately little more than a teenage power fantasy that beyond you that you have to attack their credibility as a counterpoint?
Persona 5 is not a well written game, it's a damn fun one, and one that I had a lot of fun with, but this anon >>365798643 seemed to think it wasn't a shonen game that follows the same structure and makes the same mistakes as P4, and that's simply not true.
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>>365800589
That's not actually the problem. In the Japanese one, the text is ever so slightly slanted too, it's intentional.
However, Atlus USA stretched that particular part of the UI horizontally, to accommodate the fact that English text is ultimately longer than Japanese text, but they were so lazy as to literally just stretch it, and not put any effort into adjusting it. So it makes the slanted effect much more exaggerated.
There is no bottom to Atlus USA's incompetency.
It's a genuine shame. People in the west have been praising P5's UI ever since its reveal, but Atlus USA are going to completely fucking ruin it all.
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>>365800765
>I played the game
>The writing is bad
>It's just like P4
If you actually played the game and think this, you don't know Japanese, and you really don't understand story telling.
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>>365801063
Okie dokie anon.
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>>365801090
Hey, I'm not the one spreading lies about the game because I couldn't understand it, I just want you to stop spewing nonsense in case some of the people waiting for the English release actually believe any of the nonsense you're speaking.
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>>365801220
I'm not spreading lies pal. Those are my honest thoughts on the game, and just because you disagree doesn't mean I didn't play or understand the game. But just as you're voicing your disagreement, I'd like to voice mine; How you found P5's story to not be little more than a retread of P4 is beyond me, and frankly you must be a hell of a fucking moron to think that it's a well written game.
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>>365801351

Not that guy but he is right. Your opinions are shit.
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>>365801351
See if you weren't so impossibly fucking stupid that you think the game is even close to P4, I might believe you understood the game enough to warrant a response other than me calling you stupid, but you're just so completely off the mark that I struggle to believe you aren't a troll.
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>>365778314
>why would you buy a dead system
Why wouldn't you already own a PS3?
>own a ps4 that actually has good games coming out?
All the good games have already been released on PS3, you don't need to wait for them.
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>>365801701
Thanks for the evaluation?
Do you want to make a case for what's good about P5's story? Why the main antagonist isn't a bland evil capitalist who exists not as a commentary on politics but just because it's the most generic evil character they could make? And then added sexual harassment and murder to his CV so there could be no reason to side with or justify his actions? And then had a character like Goro, who is so half assed that they literally don't even finish his story and just "kill him off" because coming up with an actual conclusion is too hard, so they just make the entire cast completely forget about him and never bring him up again? Or how the rest of the antagonists all follow the same formula of oppressing a party member and being so blatantly evil that once again there's no reason to side with them, before having a dungeon and a boss fight to end that arc? Or how the story follows the same terrible formula of one character of focus per month before being discarded from relevance to focus on the next dull party member, just like in P4? It's a retread of P4's formula, just with better gameplay. It's a surface level story that feels so desperate to pander to the same crowd that enjoyed P4 that it doesn't feel remotely genuine and falters insanely during it's last couple of dozen hours - not the the storylines that preceded those hours were anything to write home about.
It's mediocre on the writing front, but it's a fun story nonetheless. If you're going to make a case for it being anything other than another generic shonen game that has its head so far up its audiences ass that the story starts to smell like bullshit even to itself then you're gonna have to do better than "you're stupid", "you're a troll" and "you can't read japanese".
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>>365802067
This level of stupidity actually hurt to read, especially the stuff about killing Goro. You really have no idea what story telling is. At all. Literally 0 comprehension.
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>>365802212
Great counterpoint. Goro's arc is a joke. Aside from the terribly implemented, and miss-able foreshadowing that somehow is meant to retroactively fix the lazy writing, all of his character is delivered in a terrible infodump before his character is disposed of and forgotten about entirely. It feels like they were trying to build up to something, but the reveal is so mediocre and cheap that it just feels lackluster and rushed. Not that I expected better from the team responsible for such masterpieces like the other games.

Maybe when you play the game in April you'll see what I mean. See? Two can play at this game.
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>>365802067
this reads like you read highlights from /v/ then based your entire opinion around that.
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>>365802476
Unfortunately the game's story is just that simple.
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>>365802536
the only thing simple here is you senpai
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>>365802393
>Missable foreshadowing
>Foreshadowing should be deliberate and obvious and not subtle that makes you say "Oh THAT'S what that was" about something that caught your interest the first time through
Jesus Christ, please stop. Just please stop. I can't believe that literally everything you're saying is so impossibly wrong.
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it's free on PS3, why even bother with the PS4 version?
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>>365802617
Foreshadowing shouldn't be there as an attempt to compensate for a lack of development. When they only way to experience Goro's arc is through that dialogue, it becomes deserving of criticism. It feels less like they thought out his character carefully and more like they went back after finishing his character and lazily threw in some cheap dialogue for you to catch on a second playthrough to try and quell people questioning why his character is so slapdash in his implementation.
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>>365802067
Is it similar to Persona 4 where you're given a long introduction, and then fuck all until the last 5 hours?
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WHAT'S THAT BOWTIE
ON THE CARD GUY
TELL YOU BOUT HIS DESIGN
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>replying to someone pretending to be moogy in 2017
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>>365802814
No, because the story is segemented. You're given a bit of brief exposition on why you should hate this incredibly evil person for each dungeon, then a new party member, and then you just run through a dungeon with a few reminders of how incredibly horrible and evil the antagonist is and how awesome and cool you and your new party member are for opposing them, and then you beat the boss and everyone's happy. This happens for almost every single dungeon, and it's an incredibly basic formula that they just insert a few different variables for each dungeon and call it a day. The last couple of dungeons are different, but they're just as terrible in that the antagonist is this blatantly evil figure. The only antagonist they try to present as someone who isn't just evil for the sake of being evil is Goro, but his arc is awfully, and I fucking mean awfully implemented anyway so it makes no difference.
The only half decent dungeon storywise in the game is the one with no antagonist, and that's Futaba's - but that goes to shit once you beat the game too.
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>all these BUY THE PS4 U POORFAG posts
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was P4 like this? I imagined there wasn't much discussion because Persona wasn't well known back then
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>>365799525
I can bear with it except for the upper right text and the Save word. What the fuck
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>>365802805
>I'm an idiot who can't read so the game is bad
By the way, Goro hearing Mor was plain as day, if you didn't catch that then you're literally retarded (not that there was any doubt). The foreshadowing was when Mor and Futaba "about his voice" and she responded with "it's the same as always" and then the scene faded out because of drugs. It's amazing how much of the game you miss when you don't actually know Japanese.
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>>365803372
I wasn't talking about Goro hearing Morgana, and the fact that you're referring to such a blatant piece of the "foreshadowing" shows that if anyone here has a lack of understanding of the game, it's you.
I'm talking about all the idle dialogue you can hear in the cafe when talking to Goro when he shows up.
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>>365802814
Please ignore everything he says. He actually managed to be wrong about everything he said.
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>>365803490
Jesus Christ, so you're actually complaining that an RPG requires you to pay attention to NPC dialog to follow the story? Please just stop posting.
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>>365803583
just don't mind it, people can be retarded if they want. I never played P5 so dunno if it's sucks or not. you can always blame atlus for delay the english version anyway
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>>365803490
You were meme'd on by /pg/, that isn't the only time in the game you hear about Goro's conflicts outside the boss fight, there's a mandatory scene where he's out in front of a crowd that didn't get translated until many weeks after the game came out
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>>365803583
No, I'm complaining that Goro's actual personality and the one that wasn't a total fake is only in the game's story for a grand total of 2 minutes and to get any actual character development you have to scour every piece of idle dialogue he gives, and to make matters worse, the dialogue he responds with in the cafe is fucking random anyway so you can end up getting nothing even if you try.
It's some of the worst design and structure I've ever seen, and it felt like they were trying to do this interesting character who had a real personality that was actual central to the themes of the game and interesting but they completely squandered it by relegating it to a single info dump.
You dense fuck. Holy shit.
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>>365803693
I'm just having trouble wrapping my head around how impossibly stupid he is. Like he has to just be shitposting based on spoilers, right?
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>>365803705
Is all you can do to argue just spout "you didn't play it!!"?
I'm really sorry to burst your bubble here, but I did play it. If you're talking about the scene in the TV studio where he has a brief inner monologue, holy fuck you are grasping at straws, because next to nothing of importance comes out of that scene and it's just a brief cutaway after beating a miniboss to make it seem like you're progressing. Not even close to providing any development since it just has him thinking to himself "all these people are idiots" etc.
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>>365803705
>>365803850
I haven't played this game and have only gone off of spoilers but seeing how this conversation is developing is making me really excited for it
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>>365803831
maybe. but the fact he writes at least 2 paragraphs with each response meaning he won't give up shitting on this
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>>365804102
>why won't he stop voicing his opinions
>i told him he was dumb and i don't like his opinions so why won't he stop!!!
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>>365804102
But everything he's writing is wrong. At this point he's script complaining that you have to listen to NPC dialog to get characterization. The other stuff he wrote about the villains, plot and MC's group is equally as absurd. I honestly believe he didn't play and understand the game. There's just no other way to be that wrong about everything.
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>>365774449

LOL It already has you fucking EOP!

Just cause you wont play it till April doesn't mean it hasn't already lived up to the expectations to exporters and the Japanese.

>mfw im still playing it
>mfw bout to start the bank palace

Taking my sweet as time with this game since september
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>>365804160
just keep doing it then, autism
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>>365804234
>Playing since launch
>At the bank
How?
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>>365804198
If you genuinely think I'm wrong, how about saying why? Because I most certainly am not wrong about the villains, plot and the MC's group. You're now just setting people up for disappointment come April when they play the game and find that you're full of shit.
And my complaint isn't with having to read NPC dialogue, heck - you don't have to anyway. It's that Goro's character, one of the few with any potential, is poorly told. The dialogue itself is the problem, since it feels like I'm eating up scraps of what could've been a decent character, and even then I'm dissatisfied. There's barely any substance to him.
I anticipate your reply attacking how I "haven't played the game," or some other bullshit rather than an actual argument though.
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>>365779306
Well rumor has it that the reason they shoved the game back into another delay is because ATLUS finally told USA to stop being meming fuck heads. That "you jelly" line got a lot of shit across the board.
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There's no THIICCC-fu in these games.

And no hanako doesn't count.
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>>365804297
I stopped playing when FFXV came out.
Took about half of december to finsh FFXV then i went back to it in January.

I also have a job so i cant play all day
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>>365804651
if there was it would have been more discussed here
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>>365804395
There was no potential for Goro. They wanted a traitor, and it would make ZERO sense for any of your other party members to be a traitor. And if it was outside the playable party, it'd be utterly pointless and a rehash of 3 and 4. I honestly think Goro is fine how he is, just because in the end we got one good thing out of him. Pancakes.
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>>365804780

I just got past the scene where goro died. I was legit surprised since I thought he was coming back
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>>365800616
Not exactly the type of blow they're waiting for but close enough.
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>>365804836
I think most people did. I hate generals like the plague, but when the streamers reached that part the threads were pure gold.

That said they never really mention what happens to Goro after. I guess it's up to the imagination unless they (and they probably will) release DLC. Even then, Goro can't exactly be your friend. He did try to kill you. Repeatedly. And it's made clear the party doesn't give a shit about him. Might as well keep him gone and ambigously dead.
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>>365804780
I don't disagree with the idea that they wanted a traitor, and it'd be an incredible undermining of everything to have it be one of the other party members, unless they were put up to it or something to that effect, but that'd feel cheap.
I completely disagree that there was no potential for him though. Reading the artbook and seeing that they planned for him to be the antithesis of Joker and for there to be so much more to him, it just disappoints me his personality is a farce for 99% of the game, and that the only time you see his true demeanor is in a brief info dump, and then he immediately dies. The fact that you have to scour the optional conversations to the point were you have to save and reload to get the random chance lines just to get the development that should've been given in the main story is just bad design. His character is so rushed and lazily implemented it's not funny, and his conclusion only reinforces this idea since he just dies and is never mentioned again other than a few asides.
I don't mind that he dies, but it's poorly paced and feels like it was a decision to just hastily end his plot rather than give it a proper conclusion because they wanted to move on to taking care of Shido.
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>>365803956
It's not like Goro's execution is totally flawless, but exaggerating the living fuck out of it for (You)s is a very common practice. At least it's easy enough to spot when absolutely nothing brought up hasn't been translated. For instance, most people deflect any questions about the co-ops or the things the PT stole from the dungeons (aside of course from Sae's because of the initial complaints that circulated fast). You see this happening on tumblr too, where people that imported without speaking the language try to provide an in depth analysis of the characters but also point out that they haven't done any of their side stuff.

Once someone that can be viewed as a credible source dumps info, then it's a different story. But it's often hard for /v/ to refute anything directly because the shitposter assumes their targets haven't played the game and for the most part are right about that.

What I enjoyed doing back in September was circulating bad info and then seeing how many people started posting it under the pretense that they'd played the game to completion and hated it. I wouldn't step in or say anything, and at times it got incredible how long the arguments got, where you had people that didn't play P5 arguing with people that didn't play P5
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When I walked in gamestop to preorder this, Yakuza 0 and nioh the dude called me a weeb
Too bad for him that I had a smoking hot girl in my car waiting to suck my dick for the next week and a half until yakuza 0
Now I'm playing it while her ass is bouncing on my dick waiting for Nioh
After that I'll breed with her and get an abortion right before persona 5 release
How that's for a weeb fucking gamestop nerds
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>>365805089
He technically is. You fight for a purpose LARGER than yourself and against those who seek to manipulate others. Goro manipulates others while fighting purely for himself. Everything he did was selfish and for petty revenge. I do agree that he's rushed, it seems like they had no idea what to do with Goro but kept him in anyway.

In the end he could have been many things, but he's simply a fountain of memes.

>>365805154
I remember that "if you don't romance Makoto you get the bad ending" shit, and the Ryuuji and Ann get together shit. It caused so much anger, it was kind of funny.
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>there is no board on the planet that can stop talking about groo
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>>365805389
I remember all the NTR claims with Anne leaving with coach
Thankfully there's no ntr
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>>365805705
People want to critique shitty characters? What a shock
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>>365805705
I want to stop talking about groo
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>>365805913
why
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>>365805913
so stop
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>>365805949
Why is Goro so smug?
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>>365806032
because you didn't play the game and don't know the context of that smug sprite and how it's not actually goro
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>>365806032
Still wish they'd used this portrait in game
really the only thing Goro left me wanting with
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>>365806084
you don't have to have played the game to know a thing like that
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>>365806084
Hey do me a favor and take that autism down a few pegs, okay?
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>>365806152
you don't have to have played the game to know a lot of shit that's been posted in this thread actually
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Just read impressions that are not from /v/
Or better
Wait for the game
Its only 2 months now
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>>365806327
Goro is proving as good a meme as adachi thankfully
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>>365806538
The fuck are you on about? Link the posts.
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>>365804297
lol i meant casino palace.
I re-read what i said and realized i put bank
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>>365806725
Everything in this goro argument that just passed is all recycled info that's been on /pg/.
In fact I haven't read a single thing from ANYONE that hasn't been on there for weeks and weeks already.
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>>365806815
Link the posts and explain what you mean, dipshit.
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>>365806815
this technically wasn't from /pg/, it was from /drg/ instead
>>365802837
But yeah, there's pretty much nothing but repetition going on in these threads, occasionally someone that beat the game comes in, posts some new small thing and people jump on it like they always knew about it.

Like the Floral Pants thing, everyone thought he was just in the endings until the anon that posted him in the first place finally went to Shibuya at the right time, saw him and gave new details. And it's not like he's hard to find at all.
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>>365807063
Once again I am utterly confused as to what you're talking about. One guy was posting memes from /pg/ and other then that the only mention of Goro is how he's a fairly half baked character. What the fuck are you and that other guy on about?
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>>365774449

It is a Persona game, it's never going to live up to the hype.
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>>365807445
except there isn't much hype around
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>>365807445
Nice try dipshit.
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>>365807325
this post gets the idea across better than I can at this time of day
>>365805154
most of the people in these threads rely on very general points taken almost word for word from /pg/. And you can probably figure out how much they actually know by hitting them with certain questions

eg, I would ask this anon >>365805089 what parts of Goro's development were restricted to the scenes at the cafe, and the more stock the answer is, the less likely they actually know what they're talking about.

And I would have asked this anon >>365806032 a trick question like "how amazing was that crazy mode" to see if they knew that was cognitive Goro or not.
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>>365807909
That last one you quoted was me, you fucking dipshit. I posted it because it was one of the pictures getting passed around a lot. What are you, some kind of uptight elitist? You're full of shit. Even that anon pointed out nearly ALL of his actual character development comes from his final scenes.
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>>365808070
No, no, this is all wrong
I'm talking about the picture you replied to, not what you posted. The picture you posted wasn't cognitive Goro, it wasn't even in the game. This is just an example dammit.

>Even that anon pointed out nearly ALL of his actual character development comes from his final scenes.
And yes, this is the point, that is literally all that they said, they didn't explain what was missing, what was in the other parts of the game, just that stuff was here and there and not over there. Those impressions are so basic anyone could recite the exact same info after spending a day in that general.
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>>365808295
But your issue is that it's "like they know what they're talking about" but that was a common issue stated with Goro. Even in Japan. He was lopsided, had too little characterisation outside of the final info dump, and feels as if they kept him in half finished just for the traitor reveal.

In other words it seems like you just wanted to act superior for some reason.
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>>365808446
the original thing was about how you don't have to have played the game to be able to say any of this shit, and it looks really stupid when someone is trying to make a big thing like they have any real insight into the game when they actually don't and all the proof they have is really simple shit. It's not just limited to Goro either

I literally cannot explain this any better unless I get some sleep, hopefully if I ever talk about this again I won't quote the wrong fucking post like a fucking idiot next time. Good night.
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>>365774449
It's a fantastic game. I clocked 100 hours in the game and enjoyed it most out of 3-5.

Of course this being /v/ and the localization being potentially poor I don't expect it to not get shit on. But I think it's just clearly the best recent JRPG period.
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So what I'm taking away from this thread is not to ask about P5 on /v/
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>>365809283
You are a smart guy
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>>365809568
>>365809568
>>365809568
>>365809568
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>>365774873
>fuck one less reason to by a ps4, I can't have that. Initiate smugness!
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>>365809283
To be honest, I had no idea how many people didn't actually play the game, but that other guy's explanation about people spewing shitty /pg/ memes sounds right, seeing as I went there once and none of them had any idea what they were saying and didn't remember any lines from the game outside of big scenes.

That guy pretending it's like P4 and the story is bad is retarded. I really don't think he's played the game at all, and is probably just a faggot (literally) in love with Goro's design and is shitposting about him based on a playthrough he watched on youtube or something. If you can, avoid all spoilers and just play the game like I did. It was my favorite video game experience in a long time.
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hi /pg/
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>>365812652
>nobody who played the game will think the story is bad
makes you think you're a fucking retard
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>>365812834
>Says a bunch of shit about the story that's completely wrong and looks like it's based on a wikipedia summary
>Doesn't have any fucking idea what the story is actually about
Remember, if you don't know moon and haven't played the game, you're a fucking retard and your opinion is worthless. Objectively.
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>>365812928
You keep saying that but everything he said is perfectly applicable to the game. If anyone here hasn't played the game, I'd say it's you for thinking that's "completely wrong".
And despite all that, you still haven't actually pointed out a single thing he said that wasn't true.
I'd be more surprised if anyone's listening to what you have to say out of everyone in this thread.
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>>365813029
/pg/ is listening to absolutely everyone
intently
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>>365813116
/pg/ is borderline fucking dead, constantly on the verge of falling off Page 10 and can barely make it above 50 unique posters. I'm not too worried.
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>>365813029
You're an absolute fucking retard who actually hasn't played the game if you think the garbage he said applies at all. Please, take a picture of your game and show us that you've beaten it, and type your next response it moon.

>>365813116
/pg/ is a bunch of idiots posting pictures of Haru's forehead and Goro memes while shitposting about a game they haven't played but decided to spoil for themselves. I think me, Onsokamaru and like one other guy are the only ones here that have actually played it.
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So a japanese site called 4gamer asked 120 developers what their GOTY was for 2016. Persona 5 won the most votes.

http://www.dualshockers.com/2016/12/28/140-japanese-developers-vote-game-year-persona-5-tops-pokemon-go-final-fantasy-xv/
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>>365783691
link?
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>>365812652
The story isn't bad but it's generic as shit, it's not as interesting as they made it seem at first. They tried to claim it was a morally grey story pre release, where everything is murky but you fight for your own brand of justice even when others oppose you. No. Your enemies are vile rapists and blackmailers... and Haru's dad, and they're so comically over the top with their evilness (bar Madaramalama and Haru's Dad to some extent) and untouchable through normal means that you are never, ever really in the wrong.
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>>365813217
I've noticed you still haven't pointed out a single thing that he said that wasn't true? That's kind of funny.
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>>365813029
>perfectly applicable
Well, I wouldn't really call explaining P5's structure in as negative an barebones a connotation as possible perfectly applicable
Regarding that anon in particular, the moment someone brought up a specific scene way up here>>365803705
the response was very vague, and made no note of Goro's legitimate need for affection being brought up for the first time at all, so I would say this new /pg/ meme can be applied here
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>>365813217
お待たせしましたアノンーチャン
本当にペルソナ5を楽しんだ
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Threadly repost of the official Persona 5 Waifu Rankings.

How did your girl do, /v/?

R8 and h8
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>>365813761
>Tae is patrician
youre alright, anon
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>>365813761
>another looks only evaluation
disgusting
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>>365813671
The moral grey area doesn't come from the fact that you go after people that might not be bad, it comes from the fact that you're literally stealing free till from people, which Sae points out several times. The climax even involves the population deciding the life is hard so they want someone else to take the reigns, the the PT just go ahead and decide "No, we don't really care what they want."

It's really easy to tell who hasn't played it, because they really miss the point of the game.

>>365813715
>It's about evil adults!
Completely and utterly false. Still waiting on you to post proof that you've played it. I'll keep waiting.

>>365813742
セーブデータを見せろって言っただろう?
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>>365813761
>Futaba
>Shit
someone didn't play the game
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>>365813886
free will*
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>>365813761
fuck you, Futaba is literally the second best
Only Sadayo is superior
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>>365813882
>implying there's anything good about generic gypsy and moe moe loli hacker-chan panderfu~ aren't literary abortions
Come back when you get some taste.
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>>365814008
Chihaya is pretty bad but I doubt you even know why
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>>365774449
Yes. It'll be the most overhyped half-game half-vn garbage in the world.

/v/ will parrot that its the epitome of JRPG when all the persona games have been the very central definition of weeaboo garbage with no substance.
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>>365813886
>セーブデータを見せろって言っただろう?
レベルを気にしない、ニュウゲームプラス
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>>365814304
先のタイムスタンプはどうなった?
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>>365813886
Okay let me run through how I know that you may have played it, but you're just being a fucking retard. First of all the ultimate reveal that Gnostic God Man (can't remember his name) has been fucking you over is the only time you are ever shown to have screwed up. Your mind rape works perfectly, it even almost fucks over the group until Goro kills Haru's Dad. Sae constantly badgers you about your shit, so does everyone, but it's meaningless when you are ALWAYS FUCKING RIGHT. You can't say "you are so morally ambigous" when it a) worked and b) lacked actual fucking alternatives. NOTHING could be done, hell in the first case the principle is revealed to have been covering up the gym teachers fucking crimes.

Second of all it IS about evil adults. For all it's talk about society and wanting to free yourself from it's evils, it ultimately boils down to a Leverage esq heist to knock arrogant people down a peg and help the people around them. With the soul exception of Futaba, of course.
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>>365814194
I don't need to know why the bitch who looks like she uses the flower crown filter on all her selfies is horrible. I already know she is.
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>>365814425
What'd stop me from just displaying that picture on a TV and placing a timestamp in front of it? It's no more legitimate.
I've given you all the proof I can.
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>>365804951
>Might as well keep him gone and ambigously dead.

Fuck you. The general become Goroposting infestation thanks to this ambiguous shit. They won't shut up on how he must come back or clarify his death. Atlus need to conclude his fate clearly on DLC expansion so everyone can shut up about Goro.
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>>365814526
No thanks, I don't want more spin off games to undermine the original game.
You're the cancer here.
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>>365814526
The general is just shitposting in, well, general. They even turned someones attempts at telling them to shut the fuck up about Goro into a Goro joke. But hey, at least the 2 Goros trip was a pretty amusing moment for everyone.

It was fun to watch people who had no real context to the scene at hand try and quickly shoot their ideas out before someone who spoke Japanese came in and gave the actual reasoning.
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>>365814558
Enjoy on everyone talking or screaming about Goro endlessly you faggot
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>>365813761
>we will never get a proper Sae route
>probably not even in Persona 5: Crimson in 4+ years
I just want to fuck my prosecutor and earn preferential treatment by spending long nights "going over the case" at her apartment.

They gave us like three milfs (nurse, paparazzi, teacher), but they couldn't give us her. Why?
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So yeah
do not ask /v/ about P5
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>>365814625
Probably because you only really spend time with her like twice outside of her interrogation.
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>>365814558
Fuck you dipshit. Goro become popular because of this shit and now the fans, especially the fujos, won't stop asking Atlus to bring him back.

Don't blame me if he is truly back in the re-release or DLC because of his popularity.
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>>365814625
Are you dense? If you played the game, you'd be aware a Sae route is basically impossible without outright rewriting the whole game.
She doesn't properly meet the protagonist aside from like one or two random run-ins until November, and the interrogation rests on the fact she doesn't trust you at all and over the course of it you gain her trust.
If you'd been fucking her, or even knew her months in advance the plot would make absolutely no sense.
She also has a co-op already, so they'd have to remove it.
In shot: Sae is never, ever going to be romanceable. Ever.
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>>365814813
Goro was actually a joke before the release as well, and pretty popular because of his lack of attention. Even in Japan. Literally nobody didn't see the reveal that he was the traitor coming, so everyone made fun of it. It's one of the most obvious reveals ever.
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>>365774449
>/v/ speaking seriously about video game
Anon...

It's living to the hype in my view, you don't really need a PS4 either if you just want this.

They basically perfected the "persona" formula and i even wonder what they can do with Persona 6 without drasticly changing the base formula.

And the only thing you will get here is spoiler and shitpost, don't complain if this happen, you should know better.
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>>365814813
Rise constantly ranked amongst the bottom of the popularity polls, and Yosuke amongst the top.
What happened? Rise got her own fucking game, and Yosuke is no more of a character in that than he was in any other one.
Popularity doesn't mean shit to Atlus, people will buy their games regardless.
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>>365814625
It was on the table, she has voice files and everything
Story got in the way
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>>365814909
Bro characters are usually very popular. Rise got way too much attention, so people got tired of her.
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>>365814928
>she has voice files and everything
You want to provide any actual evidence? Because this is the first I've heard of this.
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>>365814909
You seems forgot that Aigis that once got popular in P3 and as a result, he is the MC in the Answer.
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>>365814960
That's not the point. The point is, even in polls long before DAN was announced Rise was scoring worse than every other girl, and Yosuke was by far the most popular character. And then DAN happened and made Rise the face of it. Atlus don't take into account popularity.

>>365815034
Atlus were pushing Aigis long before the initial P3 release even happened. And the Answer was released far too soon after P3 vanilla for me to believe they had the time to take into account fan feedback.
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>>365815106
Uh, DAN was not when she started getting overused. Rise is the face of Persona 4, girl character wise. She had concerts and shit. But even if the polls tanked her, she was still the face, that's obvious they'd still use her.
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>>365814991
alright, give me a minute to dig through the dump and find her
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How's the PS3 version? Is it even getting released in the West? The latest Tales game was Japan exclusive on PS3
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>>365814437
>has been fucking you over is the only time you are ever shown to have screwed up.
What the fuck are you talking about?

>Your mind rape works perfectly,
>Literally stealing free will is cool
I can't even believe I have to point out how stupid this is.

>NOTHING could be done,
That's the fucking point. You either fuck with people's souls, or you lose.

>Second of all it IS about evil adults.
This is exactly how I know you didn't play the game. There are two short instances in the game where they talk about evil adults: Ryuuji at the buffet, and Futaba when she refers to "The adults in black suits". That's it, you fucking retard.

>and wanting to free yourself from it's evils,
That's never what it's about, it's about them wanting to help people and then getting high on the idea of being heroes, so they take it to the extreme and deny the will of the people to create the world they want.

The shit you're arguing is so far off base from what the game is about that it makes my head hurt.

>>365814490
You know what, that's a good point. I guess you didn't actually provide any proof at all.
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>>365815239
>You know what, that's a good point. I guess you didn't actually provide any proof at all.
Jesus christ.
I proved at the very least that I have a copy of the game, and if you really find it hard to believe I played it then boy I just don't know how to please you.
I don't even disagree with you on the game being good, but I get the feeling your obnoxiousness is going to have the adverse effects you want, since it's ridiculously difficult to take you seriously when you seem so hellbent on accusing people of not having played the game above all else.
It's like you have some inferiority complex about speaking moon and the mere thought someone else can do so terrifies you.
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>>365815239
>There are two short instances in the game where they talk about evil adults
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
Ryuji says クソ大人 so many fucking times in the game it's not even funny. You might be the one who didn't play the game here pal.
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>>365815167
>But even if the polls tanked her, she was still the face, that's obvious they'd still use her.
Right, and I'm saying that Goro isn't likely to get spin off content because of his popularity. If we apply that same logic, Goro is the least likely, since Atlus were - and still are borderline pretending he doesn't even exist. He's exempt from all merchandise, and left out of anything they can.
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>>365815443
Or it's like the other guy is a complete fucking idiot whose "discussion" of the game boils down to him making a lot of arguments about things the game isn't even about, because he somehow got the idea in his head that those things are what the game was about, then he said a bunch of stupid like like it being like P4 (which it's not at all) and then you defended him.

>>365815512
No it's pretty much just at the buffet when he gets pissed at Shido after the elevator scene. There might be another short instance that slipped my mind, but it's definitely not a recurring theme, especially considering the people that help you out through the game are mostly adults.
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>>365815239
Who said it was cool you fucking imbecile? But you are constantly in the right, and you actually had 0 choice. And no they talk about it a ton, holy shit did you actually not play the game?

Did you just get caught in a massively embarrasing lie?
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>>365815623
>Who said it was cool you fucking imbecile?
You when you said it was morally ambiguous, you colossal fucking retard.

>And no they talk about it a ton
They really, really don't.

>Did you just get caught in a massively embarrasing lie?
This coming from the fucking retard who missed the entire point of the game, whined about Goro not being the villain he wanted him to be based on a combination of nothing and being too stupid to read NPC dialog, and somehow thinks the game is in any way comparable to P4.
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>>365780085
made me kek
i despise that fat fucking faggot
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>>365815714
>said it was
wasn't
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>>365814848
I'm well aware, anon. That doesn't stop me from wanting what I can't have. She ticks a lot of my boxes, alright?
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>>365815714
You think the opposite of morally ambiguous is cool? And you called ME the fucking retard? Holy shit man, leave the thread before you embarrass yourself even further.

And yes they talk about it a TON replay (sorry I mean PLAY) the fucking game. And no it's a COMMON FUCKING OPINION EVEN ON 2ch that Goro is half baked and half finished. Dumb cunt, please leave, it hurts.
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>>365815714
>This coming from the fucking retard who missed the entire point of the game, whined about Goro not being the villain he wanted him to be based on a combination of nothing and being too stupid to read NPC dialog, and somehow thinks the game is in any way comparable to P4.
That's me, but I'm not the guy you were replying to just now. That was someone else who thinks you're a dense fuck with a hard-on for mediocre writing, or just delusional, or just someone who didn't play the game.
And I see you're using the same strawman you were hours ago. Keep it up anon.
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>>365815171
You're going to be there for hours anon
>>365814991
https://mega.nz/#!qcsmTQBR!eDpNzWytu6JQ1BYBoO79dhboXzdbZgz3T95jKlXX5U4

there's a mountain of unused shit in here including Sae and Goro, all the C_08 clips are of Goro's, the Hs are Lavenza and assorted random bits, Sae is somewhere in the Es, good luck finding her.
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>>365815854
>And no it's a COMMON FUCKING OPINION EVEN ON 2ch that Goro is half baked and half finished.
That's hardly surprising, they whine even more than we do
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>>365815968
Yes but for once they're actually right.
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>>365815854
>You think the opposite of morally ambiguous is cool?
Morally ambiguous, and not morally ambiguous. Morally ambiguous IS the fucking grey area, so if you're not ambiguous you're either really evil, or really good.

>Holy shit man, leave the thread before you embarrass yourself even further.
Or you could open a dictionary, you mouth breathing retard. Seriously, go finish high school.

>And yes they talk about it a TON replay (sorry I mean PLAY) the fucking game
No you fucking idiot, it's really not. It's like you didn't even play it.

>And no it's a COMMON FUCKING OPINION EVEN ON 2ch that Goro is half baked and half finished. Dumb cunt, please leave, it hurts.
Ah, so you're either a fujo or a faggot that wanted more bishounen detective bad guy. He wasn't the main villain nor was he any sort of deuteragonist, get over it, faggot.

>>365815885
>And I see you're using the same strawman you were hours ago. Keep it up anon.
You fucking idiot, you're arguing about the game like someone that really has no idea how story telling works, that's why I'm calling you an idiot. The game isn't like P4. At all. The game is not, nor was it ever supposed to portray antagonists who might actually be right, and taking them down wasn't ever supposed to be a deconstruction of the human condition that touched on the nature of greed. I swear to god, everything you say reads like a 19 year old who took his first literature course in college. You're so impossibly fucking stupid.
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>>365816136
Okay so now you're pulling shit out of your ass like I'm claiming he has to be the main villain to be a complete character. Never write a story, you actual legitiment retard. And I don't mean that as a common internet insult, I mean you may legit be a retard. And they talk about it a shit ton, like 2 other people in this thread have agreed with me so clearly you are full of shit. You are desperate to try and prove you're the only one who has played the game, that you are the only foreigner to speak Japanese. It's actually super confusing and very pathetic.
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>It's a 2ch's opinion is worth putting on a pedestal episode
that being said, I do concur that Goro needs a little more work. He isn't half baked, though, more like three quarters baked. All the shit 2ch goes on in their hate threads is horsecrap, though, which is to be expected since they only started making them in response to him winning the popularity poll
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>>365814490
You could always load into the game and go to a place that an anon picks for you to go and take a picture with a time stamp. There are a ton of little areas that you could go to. Futaba's house or the library. There are MANY places in the game that haven't been photographed much if at all. And it really isn't all that hard to do considering you booted the game up just to take a pic of your save data. I'm not saying you didn't play the game, but I'm giving you a very clear way to prove beyond all doubt that you have not only played it, but you know the areas well enough to go to a spot of someone's choosing and snap a photo.
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>>365815562
>borderline pretending he doesn't even exist. He's exempt from all merchandise, and left out of anything they can.

Now why is the reason Atlus fucking do that? Goro is a playable character and also the crucial one to the plot, and now they just toss him out like it was nothing? What the fucking hell???

Even Adachi doesn't get a treatment like this.
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>>365816235
>like I'm claiming he has to be the main villain to be a complete character.
>Hurr he could have been so much more!
>Why do I have to listen to side dialog!
>Why don't they put him front and center at all times!
>Why wasn't the game about these things!
>Why did he die and why didn't they try to save him because he's so great and should stay in the game!
You're a retarded faggot. I don't mean that as an insult, but I actually mean you're a mentally handicapped homosexual.
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>>365775120
>is yet to be released
What did he mean by this?
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>>365774449

>will my shitty slice of life RPG live up to it's poor heights?

Yes. Because the franchise is shit in general.

New Shin Megami Tensei when?
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>>365816326
Side dialog? It only reveals his guise. And once again, never claimed he had to be front and centre. He was half baked, half finished. That's all I said. You're now desperate and damage controlling because you've been booty blasted up and down this thread by everyone, revealed to be a fucking autist trying to force his views on the game to others and repeatedly told "no, you're wrong"

It's actually fucking hilarious, now that I think about it. Keep going.
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>>365816318
Adachi had basically the same treatment, though
Anime and Ultimax were the only two real points where they pushed him, and the latter was solely because one of the shitty writers was a huge adachifag
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>>365816136
>The game is not, nor was it ever supposed to portray antagonists who might actually be right
You mean despite Hashino saying that it would constantly prior to release? And how we'd sympathize with them? Yes, I can definitely feel for these evil for the sake of being evil rapists and murderers who have not a single redeeming quality.
The game also absolutely touches on greed, among the other sins, and it's blatantly got something to say, and on top of that it clearly wants to make a commentary of sorts with its antagonists, given that half of them are based off of real figures in Japan from the last half a decade, but the commentary falls flat on its face.
And again you need to stop using whether someone speaks the language or has played the game as an argument. It's embarrassing.
Just fucking quit using insults and bullshit accusations to rebuttal someone you disagree with. If anyone here sounds like a dumb 19 year old, it's you.
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>literally no one can stop talking about groo
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>>365816257
I was pointing out it wasn't just a western view, you fucking dipshit. All their hate threads are full of Ryuuji anyway. They really have a bone to pick with his poor VA.
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>>365774449

Hype? What hype? I haven't seen this game talked about at all since it came out in Japan. Then confirmed almost all love interests are sloppy seconds
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>>365816274
This is all getting ridiculously autistic. But if he really wants me to do that - I will.
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>>365787681
>He's completely wrong.
Nope. Its going to be really funny seeing you cucks go full contrarian over the cast because they're really fucking terrible
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>>365816524
I'd say do it just to get another blow in to this fucking autist rampaging through the thread.
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>>365816463
Didn't Hashino say that the players might be able to feel sorry for the adults that one time? He wasn't even lying if you look at the adults in the co-ops, or at Sae.

>>365816496
You forgot to put half a dozen quotation marks around confirmed anon
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>>365780619
Not really and that's insulting to P4
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>>365816414
>Why wasn't Goro's past the focus of the game!
>Why was a pawn used by the villain not the focus of the character development in the game!
>Why am I so fucking stupid that I still haven't figured out the point of the game or why the people that actually played and understood it liked the story so much!
Must be hard living life in the slow lane.

>>365816463
>You mean despite Hashino saying that it would constantly prior to release?
Please show me the actual interview you're talking about and not screenshots of people on /v/ misconstruing words.

>The game also absolutely touches on greed, among the other sins,
Yes, in that the villains and population hold those things inside of them, because they're common human vices. People feel these things, it's bad. If people in power are greedy, it's really bad for the people. This was the premise, not the point or the conclusion, the story was never about a build up to and a reveal of these things, and it's never prevented like a revelation, you fucking idiot.

>And again you need to stop using whether someone speaks the language or has played the game as an argument. It's embarrassing.
I just can't imagine how else someone could be so impossibly fucking wrong about literally everything they're saying. If you understand moon and STILL are this wrong about everything you've said, you must be the stupidest person alive.
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>>365816710
You are still pulling shit from left field and pretending it's an argument. Like, you can't play this shit off as "I was clearly trolling all along" dude, it's too obvious.
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>>365792815
>The music is great.
NOOOOOOPPPPPEEEEEEEE
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>>365816326
>Hurr he could have been so much more!
He could've.
>Why do I have to listen to side dialog!
Didn't say that. I said that there's so little character development that you still barely get half the picture by listening to his side dialogue - that's able to randomly change too, requiring you to save scum to get character development on an already barely realized character.
>Why don't they put him front and center at all times!
Didn't say that - and he's on screen an awful lot actually. It's just that they undermine every second he spent on screen due to it all being a guise, and nothing of value is ever said by him when he's on screen either - he just makes some passing comment on the PT's recent activities and probably condemns them in some way. We learn nothing about the actual character besides a few tidbits from his monologue.
>Why wasn't the game about these things!
Don't recall saying that.
>Why did he die and why didn't they try to save him because he's so great and should stay in the game!
I could care less that he died, it's the fact that he dies miles before his story is actually concluded, (and it never is), and the death just feels like a cheap easy way to close a plot point.
>You're a retarded faggot. I don't mean that as an insult, but I actually mean you're a mentally handicapped homosexual.
epic!!
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>>365816807
I'll give you the (You) you're after, sorry you can't get any attention amidst this shitstorm
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>>365816807
anon please
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>>365816869
>>365816903
/pg/ pls. Its been unanimously agreed that the soundtrack is shit for months now.
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>>365816773
>I can't actually refute anything you've said, nor can I provide the interviews I'm citing that caused me to have a completely and utterly distorted view of what the game was supposed to be about
No? Didn't think so. Glad you gave up and saved yourself the embarrassment.

>>365816849
>He could've.
But he wasn't the focus now, was he?
>Didn't say that.
You explicitly complained about missable side dialog.
>It's just that they undermine every second he spent on screen due to it all being a guise
Undermine doesn't mean what you think it does. Open a book.
>Don't recall saying that.
Scroll up.
>I could care less that he died, it's the fact that he dies miles before his story is actually concluded
He's not a fucking anti-hero or anything like that, nor is he the big bad. His story ended when he died after getting used like a pawn by his dick dad, and by the evil god who just wanted the MC to lose the game he was watching. You really just wanted more of him and him to be more important than he was, because you're a faggot.
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>>365817023
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>>365816524
This guy gets it.
>>365816524
It would be pretty easy, and you'd blow him out of the water, providing that you do indeed own and understand the game. The process is really no harder than taking a screen of your save data. Who doesn't like nailing someone with a checkmate like that?
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>all these people giving Goro the legitimate attention he wanted in the end, months after he died

I'm almost crying here
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>>365817072
He hasn't asked me for a location.
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>>365817072
Your desperation in trying to live vicariously through him is the second most pathetic thing in this thread.
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>>365817072
jesus christ anon
did someone just deny you sex or something
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>>365817127
How about you tell me why the other guy isn't a complete fucking retard in comparing it to P4 and saying the game was supposed to be about taking down morally ambiguous targets, or how the game is actually about fighting evil adults?
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>>365817104
Holy shit. Goro's arc was planned on a meta level to be unfinished and rushed so that it would evoke this sort of attention for him. Good lord that's genius!
I misunderstood, but now I see Persona 5™ for the masterpiece it really is!
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>>365817243
>Persona 5™
this could've been a good post if you didn't take it down the console warrior path
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>>365817215
Hold on a minute anon, that sounds like you're backpedalling because you're frightened that someone's played the game. Surely you wouldn't do that? You've been so dead set on legitimacy and people who've played the game being always right in this thread, so that'd be incredibly out of character for you.
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>>365774449
>Will Persona 5 live up to the hype?
General consensus form people who have already completed it is that;
+ Presentation and Graphics are great
+ Gameplay is a much needed overhaul very fast and snappy
- Story and characters are worse than previous installments
- Blatantly rushed with missing details
- Soundtrack is hit and miss

Let's just say that /v/ is going to shit on it immensely when its released.
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A quick way to check if someone really played the game is to see if they believe Makoto to be an actually good character.
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>>365817294
I'm just a person with respect for trademarks
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>>365817312
Oh no, you started by defending him because you saw me call him a retard and then came at me because you've got a chip on your shoulder about people telling you that you didn't understand the game. Now I want you to actually defend the guy you started defending earlier. You already showed me that screenshots are pointless, now talk about the game and show me some of that comprehension.
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>>365817208
I just jumped into the thread and that seemed to me the easiest way to prove that he has indeed played the game. I have no desire to live through his actions. I gave him a way out, should he accept it. Easy.
>>365817208
Nope. I was just passing through and figured I'd give an answer to the horseshit.
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>>365817331
>- Story and characters are worse than previous installments
Shame. Though its gameplay being "better" than those of previous installments is welcomed. Kind of reads like how SMTIV:A was recieved, minus the
>+ Presentation and Graphics are great
part. I'll probably still get it.
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>>365783691
Give link to radio
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>>365817337
>A quick way to check if someone really played the game is to see if they believe Goro to be an actually good character.

FTFY

Only fujoshits think he's a tragic character when he's one of the worst written characters in francnhise.
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>>365817589
Yes. Gameplay wise its the best in the franchise
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>>365817337
Makoto is a genuinely good character. Her personality isn't as eccentric as Yusuke or Futaba, who both surround her introduction - so she does seem bland by comparison there. Another problem is that her dungeon story is probably the least engaging one as well, since she has easily the least connection with her antagonist, and it feels like the most shoehorned problem/deadline of the lot. But her relationship with her sister is genuinely well written, and I found the scenes involving the two of them, whether or not both were on screen to be consistently engaging. I suppose I could be a little biased since I had my parents died when I was young, and my brother looked after me, which is a similar situation to Sae/Makoto's, but I think it's well told enough that most people would be able to understand and take something from it. It's just that her development is fairly light compared to the rest, at first, beyond the arc of her deciding to stop listening to what she's told by others, not much happens with her character until Sae starts to get involved. The Persona team have proven that they're really good at relationships between family members and the like, Futaba and Sojiro's is also really well done.
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>>365817337
an even quicker way is to ask them where the star and afro poster is

>>365817331
>worse than previous installments
>missing details
what you have to understand is that autistic grumbling about Goro dwarfs absolutely every other aspect of P5 in absolutely every discussion no matter who is saying what

A lack of detail is the one thing P5 will never have even when there are hilariously bad textures in some corners of the school and such. The party members are leaps and bounds about P3s and 4s, and that's with copying P4's version of the calendar structure for the whole game. I have yet to find a single co-op that was just plain worse than any single side character in 3 or 4 besides Chihaya

And Sojiro surpassed Dojima just at the
>look at this mother fucker and hear him say one fucking line
level
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>>365817331
This is more or less the vibe I get from it. Everything will feel much more modern and refined, but Atlus' writing (especially for the Persona series) has gone way downhill in the last few years. Just look at Marie, Double Edgelord, forgettable corndog waifu and Hot Topic dog collar man from Persona Q, Titcow from Dancing All Night, and Titcow's forgettable background bandmates. None of those characters were particularly memorable, let alone well written. I'm more or less expecting the same from the P5 cast.
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>>365797131
Honestly I found the anime cutscenes pretty disappointing. Most of them look far worse than the main game to me. The animations and colors in the main game are much more expressive, and the anime scenes just look like exposition scenes in tv anime.
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>>365817589
>Shame
The plot of the game is fantastic. If you play it without getting spoiled, you'll be on the edge of your seat from the Casino onwards, and the way the game is set up as a confession before that is fantastic.

>Characters
There isn't a single bad character in the PT. Makoto is a Mary Sue, and not even she's anywhere close to bad. Their dynamics are also fantastic, and the mascot is great this time around. P4 had bad characters for the most part, and P3 had some great ones like Aegis, Akky and Shinji, but then it had Junpei, Yukari and the annoying shota. P5's support cast is also pretty great, especially Soujiro and how his story ties into Futaba's past, and how he helps you out late game.
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>>365817764
>what you have to understand is that autistic grumbling about Goro dwarfs absolutely every other aspect of P5 in absolutely every discussion no matter who is saying what
That doesn't make him a good character that just shows how absolutely bland the rest of the cast and aspects were in comparison because memes and fujoshits
>. The party members are leaps and bounds about P3s and 4s, and that's with copying P4's version of the calendar structure for the whole game
Nope, the cast here is quite frankly foirgettable
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>>365817589
>>365817789
Jesus, /v/ is pathetic.
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>>365817789
it's not really fair to compare the P4 spinoffs to P4 itself seeing how they're written by different and shittier staff members
The only thing that P Studio itself should be saddled with is Marie
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>>365817813
This guy is just a shill. Not even /pg/ blibdly defends P5 this much.
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>>365817807
They were the biggest gripe of the game for me. The in game models look really good and it was pretty jarring to go to the anime scenes. I can't help but believe that every one of those scenes would have been leagues better rendered in engine.
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>>365817993
Are you one of the guys who hasn't played the game, or the idiot who keeps screaming about Goro and P5 being like P4?
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>>365817789
Anyone who's saying the plot and characters are good are just shills, they are a step down from P3 and P4. There was a lot of shit said in interviews that doesn't come to fruition in the full game and its quite disappointing.
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>>365817993
>Not even /pg/
most of /pg/ hasn't even played this fucking game
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>>365775931
Zelda looks a lot like it's on the Wii U.
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>>365818103
>Step down from P4
You're not even trying anymore.
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>>365817331
>+ Presentation and Graphics are great
Yes, but I don't count on that staying the case in the English release. Atlus USA's rendition of the UI is fucking appalling.
Graphics aren't great on a technical level. Models, animations, and textures are mostly pretty average PS3 game material. The animations in the 3D cutscenes being the exception - those are top tier.
>+ Gameplay is a much needed overhaul very fast and snappy
Absolutely. Dungeons are a fuckload of fun, and combat is so fucking fast it's not funny. It's still mostly "target weakness > AOA" but it's fun, and in the later dungeons when enemies without weaknesses become more prominent you're forced to step things up. Bosses are fucking fantastic.
I'd also like to mention that the co-ops providing gameplay benefits makes a big difference and keeps the gameplay feeling fresh in some way or another, and alleviates the feeling I had in the past where it felt like the everyday stuff and the dungeon stuff were two drastically different games.
>- Story and characters are worse than previous installments
Not even. Unless the English release fucks them up, I guarantee they'll be the most popular cast. Nobody is anywhere near as obnoxious as some of P3/P4's characters got, and the characters they could fuck up, like Ryuji or Morgana are fantastic. Futaba deserves a mention too for being the complete fucking opposite of what I expected, but her VA is to thank for that to an extent since she does a god-tier performance, so anyone who uses the English dub will miss that since her English voice is so fucking miscast it isn't funny.
>- Blatantly rushed with missing details
I don't even know where this meme is coming from. It's incredibly fleshed out, and packed with far more content than the past games, and the endgame is immensely satisfying and pack with story. Goro could be sequel bait, but people are drastically exaggerating the "unfinished" nature of him.
>- Soundtrack is hit and miss
Not even.
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>>365818098
And right here, he always accuses people with anything remotely negative to say about the game that they haven't played it.
>>365818112
This isn't true either hence why they don't use spoiler tags anymore.
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>>365818213
>NO U; The post

You sure told me
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>>365818217
Ok so you're the idiot screaming about P4 and Goro, thanks for clearing it up.
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>the regular shitposters are trying to move in now for their (You)s
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>>365818269
Did you mean to reply to me?
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>>365818213
>I guarantee they'll be the most popular cast
This is not even true in Japan.
>Nobody is anywhere near as obnoxious as some of P3/P4's characters got
Ryuji and Morgana are incredibly obnoxious. And Goro is a poorly written character as well as all the villains here.
> Futaba deserves a mention too for being the complete fucking opposite of what I expected,
She turned out to be the shitty nerdy hacker girl like everyone was expecting. What are you talking about?
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>>365818213
>I don't even know where this meme is coming from
It's the one guy who actually played the game and didn't like it, because he got some crazy ideas in his head about what the game was supposed to be. I'm still waiting on him to link those interviews where they made all those promises they didn't deliver on.

Anyone who pretends the cast's bantz aren't God tier can kill themselves.
>Driving in Mementos
>竜司:おいジョーカー、明日は買い物に付き合ってくれ
>杏:ええ?!男たちは二人きりで買い物?あ~や~し~い~
It's fucking gold from start to finish.

Also I feel like people should know the lolis actually trumped Liz.
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>>365818272
And you're the shill who accuses anyone that has anything bad to say about that game that they didn't play it.
>>365818295
>>365818338
(You)
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>>365818213
Anyone who switches to the English track and misses Aoi Yuuki performance deserves to be put into the ovens desu senpai
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>>365818480
Nah, I'm the guy who played, understood and enjoyed the game and can see that you're completely full of shit.
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>>365818213
the endgame is really just missing a fucking endgame dungeon, you really have to try hard to make it to Sloth with everyone's endgame abilities. They really needed something along the lines of Monad, there's even a way to max out your health at 999 that essentially has no purpose because you don't need it at all on any difficulty.

>>365818419
>in Japan
Japan actually doesn't like Futaba that much because she's not stereotypical enough. Her co-op is entirely about un-neeting her. I know there wasn't any mention of that in any of the summaries so you're pardoned.
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>>365818549
I've seen dozens of shows she was in and even went to Symphogear Live. Futaba is honestly the best performance she's ever done, it's fucking top notch. Ann might be my favorite Nana role as well, and Yuusuke is up there for Sugita. Makoto's VA's best role is still Kaoru, and nothing will top Lelouch for Jun.
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>>365818474
>It's incredibly fleshed out, and packed with far more content than the past games, and the endgame is immensely satisfying and pack with story. Goro could be sequel bait, but people are drastically exaggerating the "unfinished" nature of him.
Now I know this guy is full of shit. Thank God I played this game.
>>365818564
Nope you're just a shill trying desperately to hide the fact that your game is shit.
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>>365818615
>Japan actually doesn't like Futaba that much because she's not stereotypical enough.
Nope, she's just really fucking balnd as a whole and any popularity she garnered is because of her VA being popular not because of the character which goes for most of the cast barring Goro who people generally seem to like over there for whatever reason.
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>>365818419
>This is not even true in Japan.
I really don't think 2ch is a fair sample.
>Ryuji and Morgana are incredibly obnoxious.
No?
That's just plain not true. Ryuji I guess I can see if you don't like that sort of character, but he proves to be incredibly admirable almost instantly, and his selflessness is a great quality of his. Despite the shit Kamoshida put him through, he was never acting for revenge, he just couldn't bear to see the same happen to the rest of the volleyball team or to Shiho.
But Morgana, how the fuck can you dislike him?
Just how? I just don't get it, they made potentially the most loveable mascot there is.
>She turned out to be the shitty nerdy hacker girl like everyone was expecting. What are you talking about?
What? She's a socially anxious girl who's bearing an incredible amount of guilt that she doesn't deserve. Her eccentric dialogue doesn't undermine that at all, and she's nothing like your typical lazy NEET - for one, she's completely against the idea of remaining one and actively tries to get better at social interactions and going out.
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>>365818615
>Japan actually doesn't like Futaba that much because she's not stereotypical enough. Her co-op is entirely about un-neeting her. I know there wasn't any mention of that in any of the summaries so you're pardoned.
Did you romance her? The 離れなくていいの権利 fucking killed me.

>No endgame dungeon
This is literally my biggest and only real complaint with the game. The loli fight was the best in the series, but I really wanted a super dungeon. Maybe like a side part of Mementos with level 80-90 enemies to enjoy. There are too many cool late game personas, and literally nowhere to test them out where you're not grossly overpowered.
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>>365818820
Are we just randomly quoting and shitposting now?
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>>365817951
I'm >>365817589, what did I do wrong? Haha.

>>365818213
>I'd also like to mention that the co-ops providing gameplay benefits (...)
I have heard some people calling this a problem as sometimes you'll find yourself hanging with characters you may not like/in a moment you may not want to just because of the benefit you'll get out of it. Is this true?

>>365818419
>This is not even true in Japan.
How so?*

>>365818549
The Japanese dub seems to be way more of my liking, not by itself but in comparsion to the English one as I don't care much about casts.
Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oemXmHI_Edc

*Please read as: "I don't know what you mean so, please elucidate."
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>>365818474
Men going shopping together doesn't make them gay! Everybody love a good deal!
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>>365818789
>I really don't think 2ch is a fair sample.
Nope just in general.
>. Ryuji I guess I can see if you don't like that sort of character, but he proves to be incredibly admirable almost instantly, and his selflessness is a great quality of hi
Wrong, his constant ADULTS ARE SHIT attitude and rude mannerisms got old real fast and opinions of him dropped a lot as people finished the game hence why he's the least popular character of the group because everyone found him annoying as shit.
> I just don't get it, they made potentially the most loveable mascot there is.
Wrong again shill
>Her eccentric dialogue doesn't undermine that at all,
Actually it does
>and she's nothing like your typical lazy NEET
She is. Hell when you first meet her she lives in a pigsty and has trouble getting out into the world. You didn't play this game at all.
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>>365813761
Where's the token loli option?
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>>365818649
>even went to Symphogear Live
me too
I completely agree though. Her performance is top tier.
I'm not afraid to admit I cried a little during the scene where she says goodbye to her mom.
Don't know if I'd agree on Anne being Nana's best role though. She's good, but I kinda felt a little off at times.
Sugita's good in everything, but I don't think he really got to fully flex his muscles with Yusuke, I feel the same about Mamoru with Ryuji.
There is some real top notch voice acting in the game, and Igor's voice is probably one of my favorites. I just wish it was fully voiced, especially since some of the co-ops deserve it.

>>365818874
>I have heard some people calling this a problem as sometimes you'll find yourself hanging with characters you may not like/in a moment you may not want to just because of the benefit you'll get out of it. Is this true?
Never felt like that to be honest. I managed to max out all but two co-ops on my first playthrough, without a guide or anything.
The co-ops were pretty consistent, nobody was unlikeable, and none of them were boring.
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>>365819069
>Wrong again shill
(You)
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>>365818874
>How so?*
The only character that has popularity close to the P4 gang is that shitty character Goro, people don't seem to care about Futaba, Ann, Ryuji and Haru.
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>>365818649
I also went to the Symphogear Live last year, and I can't wait for the next one.
I love Aoi's acting too much and I often pick up shows just to see how she will tackle a certain character. It would be next to impossible for me to pick an overall favorite from all those roles, but with Futaba she really nails that social anxiety and awkwardness.

SatoRina as Velvet was one of the best performances last year, but Makoto is not a character that let's her display that sort of range.
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>>365819069
>She is. Hell when you first meet her she lives in a pigsty and has trouble getting out into the world.
I wonder if that has anything to do with her crippling depression and social anxiety?
Nah.
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>>365818870
No I just think you're an immense newfag for saying that shit
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>>365819090
>I'm not afraid to admit I cried a little during the scene where she says goodbye to her mom.
The stuff with Soujiro got me harder. When she calls him dad I lost my shit.

>Don't know if I'd agree on Anne being Nana's best role though. She's good, but I kinda felt a little off at times.
I said one of, and that's purely for her jokes and airheaded "We need Ann to slut it up to save the day" segments.

>There is some real top notch voice acting in the game, and Igor's voice is probably one of my favorites. I just wish it was fully voiced, especially since some of the co-ops deserve it.
Igor's voice actually being a thing and not just them replacing his seiyuu made me shit a brick.

>>365819190
Honestly Futaba was my favorite role from her by a long shot. I think it's the closest to what she would do if she had free reign to write a character as well.

>>365819217
No anon, it's because Goro wasn't fleshed out enough and they weren't morally ambiguous enough and the wah wah wah I'm a shit eating retard.
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>>365819217
Nope, they even call her a NEET in game. You just keep sinking yourself deeper.
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>>365819217
>I wonder if that has anything to do with her crippling depression and social anxiety?
Maybe in your fanfiction but they literally call her a NEET
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>>365819325
>Nope, they even call her a NEET in game.
Because at that point she is. NEET is a term to describe her situation, not her personality.
She doesn't fit the descriptor of a typical NEET, especially not in Japanese media standards at all.
Did you fucking do her co-op?
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>>365819425
>She doesn't fit the descriptor of a typical NEET, especially not in Japanese media standards at all.
>Socially inept to the point where she won't leave her wrong and has to frequently hide herself
>Constantly on her computer
>Bad hygiene

You really didn't play this game did you?
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>>365819519
>actively wants to stop being a shut-in
>goes on outings to try and boost her confidence
>has ambitions by the end of the game to start school
You didn't play this game did you?
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>>365819424
Why I wonder would they do that?
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You are all replying to an insecure P4 fanboy that is a regular shitposter at /pg/, you know.
And no, he didn't play the game.
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>>365818763
>Nope
ok

>>365818801
I fucked everyone except for two characters. Pretty much every time I sit down and think about the characters I change my views on whether I liked Futaba's or Anne's more. But, Sadayo's will always be the best because of how neatly that story was tied together, and also a little because of personal reasons but enough about that.

>>365818874
Honestly it's only a problem if you somehow hate Sadayo or Sojiro. I will fight you if you hate either of them, though I can almost understand people hating Sadayo early on basically on principle because they never really showed her being anything other than a novelty maid-sensei in the pre-release material, and even early on in her co-op too.
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>>365819624
That's every NEET character ever. That's also an exact copypasta of a character she played previously
>>365819693
You lost kid, give it up already
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