What DOES the "X" stand for, anyway? Xtreme? Xavier?

>>364626206
The roman numeral ten

Because the main character is Megaman's ex boyfriend.

>>364626268

this

>>364626268
This is what I thought growing up, the fact there were no Megaman 9 was the only thing challenging this theory.

X stands for prototype. For most Japanese robot stuff, adding an X to the model means it's a prototype model, which X is: the very first reploid.

He wasn't completed when Dr Light died (he still had to test his systems) hence Megaman X..

>>364626206
I was under the impression that it was like a variable x, symbolizing his theme of limitless potential. The variable x can be anything, he can be anything.

>>364626206
>>364627237
X is a variable. As a variable, he can become anything. As Sigma himself said, "his potential is limitless".

>>364627237
This is the actual right answer that I believe you even hear from Dr. Light once from one of the pods.

>>364627087
/m/ here, this is fact.

>>364626206
They explain it in Day of Sigma, the letter X is meant to be a variable, due to his limitless potential.

>>364627783
>>364627348
If his potential is limitless how come hes not in the zero games or ZX games? Hmm??

>>364629776
>how come hes not in the zero games
but he is

>>364629776
He's kinda in both tho

>>364629776
Because he realized he can't stop wars from happening and retired to the cyberspace because fuck everyone else. If they wanna kill each other, so be it.

>>364629776
But he is. He's just treated like crap because Inafune hated his guts.

>>364629898
This
He was starting to slash and hack at anyone that was remotely opposing to the stuff he followed, so he decided to quit rather than become what he hated.

>>364629829
>>364629891
>>364629898
>>364629989
>>364630075
Then what happened to Zero? I've only played ZX and ZXA so I want to know why I'm playing as regular people and not the robots of destiny and they mention Zero sometimes

>>364630269
X becomes a cyber elf and sacrifices himself at the end of Zero 2. Zero goes on a suicide mission to save humanity at the end of Zero 4.

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>>364630380
Real spoilers incoming.
But that was a cloned body.

>>364626206
Somebody never grew up in the 90s. Why was the PlayStation referred to as psx

>>364630269
The Biometal contain the souls of X, Zero and the four guardians, and W which is just some loser who was so assmad he couldn't stoo beibg assmad even after death.
>>364630478
Still the real Zero in the cloned body.

>>364630380
>suicide mission
Delete this. He is still alive.

>>364630739
*missing
Kinda like those characters in X6.

How come ZX series are kind of hard but MegaMan zero 1 was like hey let's spoke it up to difficulty 10 on the first boss??

I couldn't beat the first boss

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>>364630739

Why is Dr. Light so retarded?

>oh shit I'm like 120 and I'm gonna die any second
>but first I gotta finish these dozen or so unique armor sets for X and hide them all across the fucking world

>>364630380
Elf X is still alive in Zero 3 and dies peacefully in the end.

>>364630825
ZX pandered to the casual and normal audience. Since that didn't work, and crapcom sold shit because even the original fanbase was alienated by the game, then they dropped it.

>>364630825
Aztec Falcon isn't hard, though his attacks are pretty easy to dodge.

>>364630674
And Omega in the original body got blowed up in Zero 3. So Zero's like double dead.

>>364630958
What the fuck did Dr light do to the original MegaMan that he had to make X?

>>364631081

Original Megaman was killed by Zero

>>364630856
I wish wand wanker babbies would let go.

>>364631192
Delet this
Your fanfiction is not canon.

>>364631192
Pretty sure that was disproved.

>>364631205
I actually didn't play it, give me another let go reaction then if it triggers you so much, beeeyeeetch.

>>364631192
fuck off retard

>>364630958
Come on dude. At this point it's pretty much a given that it's not so much "hurr Dr. Light's VHS tapes" anymore but more of an organic sentient AI based off of Dr. Light's persona. There's was even upgrade capsules in aircraft in some of the games.

>>364626206
X-Pac

>>364631192
But HEY, that's just a THEORY! A GAME THEORY!

>>364630380
Was Zero programmed to do a heroic suicide whenever he had the chance?
Was Wily a romantic at the bottom of his heart?

>>364626206
when i was a kid i thought megaman x was just megaman ten

>>364631386
>Megaman never found this AI so he could at least converse with it
Sad as fuck.

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>>364632110
Zero was programmed to kill X, but Willy fucked up so.

>>364631386
That is further cemented by the fact Dr. Light's hologram was aware of recent facts, and even could hold conversations with Zero. But maybe this part isn't canon.

>>364631192
Zero went insane in his capsule because of Dr. Wily's shitty virus, he wasn't THE ROBOT APOCALYPSE from the second he was made

Plus Inafune personally said the theory wasn't true and said it "wasn't in Zero's character" or somesuch

>>364632385
Wily's AI could talk to Zero as well.

>>364631192
no
original megaman got upgraded into X

>>364632609
Wait, there were Wily upgrade pods, too?

>>364632343
Actually Sigma saved Zero.

>>364626206
When I was a kid, I thought it stood for 10.

I now believe its meant to stand for 'variable', to represent the humanlike nature/decision ability of Reploids

>>364632936
Sigma wasn't a maverick at that point.

>>364632737
No, but Zero would see Wily in his dreams

>>364633034
go watch zero's story cutscenes from X4

>>364632737
Zero briefly sees Wily in X5. It's most likely just a flashback though.

Mandatory HideofBeast mention!

He did X3!

>>364634190
fuck off shill

it stands for ecksu

>>364634427
HideofBeast even said fuck in many of his videos! They're for everybody!

>>364627087
>no Megaman 9
What?
https://www.google.es/search?q=megaman+9&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&ei=yfSAWKToFPKs8wf_tLOACA

>>364634663
HideofBeast mentioned Mega Man 9 in his X6 videos even though he never made a run of it on his YouTube channel, I wish he did.

>>364635289
Ok filtered.

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Quick! Post your favorite armor.

The X5 version with the white arms and plasma shot was perfect

>>364635289
I know what you're trying to do, fuck off

Xtra fucking awesome game

>>364630739
Let go, Ciel.

>>364635729
No YOU fuck off! No Mega Man thread is complete without him.

>>364634483
X/10

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>>364635707

>>364631386
>Organic
Nothing really implies it is organic though.

Also
>no final game about AI Light and Virus Wily facing one another for the last time

>>364626206
It stands for 10, the dashes are actually minus signs, so as the series goes on it counts down to zero

>>364626206
It means X gonna give it to ya

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>>364636558
>"aaarrf i want one"
>-zero
what did they mean by this?

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>>364636778

Shit looks dope, you don't want one?

>tfw you realize all Classic and X's series characters are dead by the end of MM Zero series.

>>364636558
>no blurb by Dr. Wily calling it garbage

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>>364636990
>not zero out of X

>>364626268
I once argued with a GameStop employee over whether Mega Man X was Mega Man 10. I told him I had literally beaten both games but he still wouldn't back down. Fucking...

>>364627087
>the fact there were no Megaman 9 was the only thing challenging this theory.

There was no 7, or 8 either when X came out. You would have to be an idiot to ever believe that was it.

>>364630478

That was my favorite vidya twist. The build up to it was fantastic.

>>364626206
unknown or undetermined probably.
Notice how in sci-fis in near future settings like the same century we're in now, the writer will often put something like 20XX so that the story can happen at some point in a random decade. Therefore undetermined.
Light sealed X because his development was undetermined in the context that it wasn't finished.

>>364631081

Converted him into a wheelchair

>>364631192

Fuck off with that Bob and George shit

>>364637559
When I was playing X back in the day, my father's friend came over while I was on the title screen and he said "They're up to Mega Man 10 now?" Given how the series fell out of popularity by 6 and how frequently they were being pumped out, it wasn't that far of a stretch to assume you missed a few.

>>364631192
All of you have weak fucking megaman knowledge. Quint was made when wily went into the future and used megamans body for evil. He was eventually shut down and placed in a museum.

>>364634663
Megaman 9 came out in 2008.

Megaman X came out in 1993.

>>364626845
Is wrong.

>>364630269
Zero fucking dies in MMZ4. All that's left of anyone from the MMZ games is "biometal."

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>>364632567
>Plus Inafune personally said the theory wasn't true and said it "wasn't in Zero's character" or somesuch

Inafune's opinion means jack shit. He's defending his robotfu. Zero fucking slaughtered robots in X4 when he was a Maverick, there would be nothing preventing him from doing the same to Mega Man.

HOWEVER

The death of Mega Man would be a global event. Everyone would know of his death. There would be records of his demise and the identity of his killer would have been known to everyone. This is the maintenence robot that rises up from his basic programming and decided to oppose his own brothers to save the world. This is the robot that became defender of the Earth, not only from Wily's threats, but also galatic ones too. This shit would be in the history books and taught in schools.

But no one in the future has a record of this event. No one fucking bats an eye that Zero, the slayer of the world's greatest robot, fucking walks among their fucking police force.

Not even fucking X questions that. Hell, Dr.Light has fucking conversations with the guy that supposedly killed his robo-son.

>>364638637
Except Allouette I suppose.

>>364632567
>because of Dr. Wily's shitty virus
Nigger I will not have you insult what is basically a miracle of engineering.

>>364638639
The words of someone empowered to direct where the franchise's canon is going is worth a fair bit more than "jack shit", sadly, regardless of the motivations.

>>364639259
>I will not have you insult what is basically a miracle of engineering.

Go to bed Wily

>>364636990
but what does "AAARRF" means?

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>>364639506

>>364639439
>>364639259
>>364632567
It is Willy with double l, you fucking idiots
>inb4 just pretending, u mad

>>364639727
>saving himself with the inb4 pretend pretend

Okay Wily

>>364636558
>X8's artwork
>GC never got X8

>>364639992
Willy is a fag
BUT IT IS WILLY
WILLY

>>364640032
A-aaarrf?

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>>364626206
It stands for cat's asshole.

>In the future Zero is a legendary Hero
X was and continues to be faggot until the end

>>364640286
why is that dog standing on buttholes?

>>364639614
>zero is a doggo confirmed

>>364626206
Unknown possibility.

>>364635707
My negro.

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>>364636339
>pick ultimate buster, jumper, speedster and hyper dash
>one shot every enemy with the blade attack instantly, easily cross humongous gaps with walljumps, including the "impossible" gate 2 jump
>shit on sigma so hard you can taste his tears
>tear any normal boss a new asshole with the giga attack
>has dynamo's weakness in the blade by default
>beats high max into a high mess

best armor hands down. how can gaea fags even say otherwise?

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>>364635707
for me, there is no contest

>>364641271
there are people who like the gaea armor?

>>364631081
Megaman got capture at the end of the classic series from Wily via time travel and got turned into Quint.
http://megaman.wikia.com/wiki/Quint

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>>364635707
I'd pick the Shadow Armor if they didn't dick you over so hard in the ONE LEVEL it's really necessary. At least Gaea didn't give players such a middle finger.

>>364641505
to be fair it's a pretty dope armor, but by the time you get it it's already endgame territory

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>>364636558
I remember buying this. It was the perfect fit for my then-tiny hands.

Then the controller broke years later.

>>364641631
see >>364641271

>>364642231
Gaea has the advantage of not being in X6.

>>364631192
Nah.
Megaman was likely decomissioned once Wily stopped being a threat or when Dr. Light couldnt take the guilt of having Megaman fight anymore, because it was probably making him unstable (he threatened Wily at the end of MM7. Maybe Light was afraid that MegaMan slowly developing his own limited form of free will could send him down a darker path due to the stress of being something he was never truly designed to be. An aging AI also could be prone to data corruption).

The point of X, was that he was deisgned to be the next generation of MegaMan, one that willingly chooses to fight, one woth true free will and emotions, for better or for worse.

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i miss the old x design

i miss x

i miss megaman

fuck, i remember cursing how we had megaman games up the ass. i lived in the illusion that megaman games would never end. after x games started to slow down they had the fucking awesome zero going. after something different like legends we got the motherfucking battle network. even when those ended we got new sequels like zx and star force. megaman games just never end, they always come up with something! holy fucking shit megaman 9!

then just poof. nothing

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>>364626206
X- mathematical variable, signifying infinite potential and alluding to his ability to use any enemy's power
Zero)- brings anything it touches (think multiplying by 0) to nothing. Total destruction. Also, Omega from Zero 4.
Sigma- the sum of all reploids. the absolute best reploid that is meant to be he end in terms of power.

All mathematical superlatives. FUCKING GENIOUS

>>364642698
You got Xover.

>>364642942
Omega being "the end", similar to Zero bringing stuff to nothingness*

>>364642698
I know that feel...

>>364642942
>MMZ art
>glass tits instead of diaper

>>364641271
>shit on sigma so hard you can taste his tears
X6 has the worst, easiest to kill Sigma. Everything shits on him. Not even worth mentioning.

>>364642942
sigma the first reploid (replica of X) so alpha would have been more logical maybe? but i guess when cain made him he saw him as the ultimate culmination of robotic science

>>364643234
not as easy as X2

>>364643368
His final form literally drops health capsules mid-fight. It's been a while since I've played X2, but I don't think his fight was nearly THAT pathetic.

>>364643467
>not playing on xtreme where there are no health pickups ever

and it IS worth mentioning given how shadow's changed blade can multi hit him in a sweet spot for nearly half his health in a single attack

>>364643267
He was not the first reploid.

Also, considering MMX4 storyline canon, Zero is not a reploid.

>>364627348
The correct answer ,nicelydone

>>364643639
>subjecting yourself to anything that drags out X6 even longer
Why would you ever?

Besides, you shouldn't have to fuck around with difficulties. X games are supposed to be challenging by default.

>>364643150
It's not supposed to be MMZ yet, just the era proceeding it. Otherwise X and Axl wouldn't be around either.

>>364644082
>X series
>challenging

so you're flat out telling me you're bad at the games and can't cope with anything harder than "slightly bothersome but not really"? X6 only started getting actually challenging on xtreme, and even then the game is still not that hard unless you do a base X only run since all armors cut damage by 50%

>>364629989

you're full of shit

>>364643970
i'm sure i read it somewhere, but i could be wrong.

yeah while zero is similar to x, i guess wily and light had the same vision when going for the next step.

>>364629776
>>364630269

don't assume shit about games you haven't played, retard

>>364644494
I said "challenging." Not "rake me over the coals hard." X is clearly more challenging as a series than Megaman classic by design. Don't give me your "I'm so hardcore nothing phases me" bullshit.

>>364640157
>>364644886
>X is clearly more challenging as a series than Megaman classic by design
How so? One would think having wall sliding alone would make X an easier subseries than the Classic games

>>364644886
yeah because giving X's base forms countless upgrades instead of just tossing him raw into the levels sure makes the game a lot harder doesn't it? And don't give me no "but megaman's health bar is always big!" because the enemies are always scaled to that big bag, while the X series scales enemies to not be too troublesome at base HP, with extra heart pickups just making the game even easier as you can tank all sorts of hits. Oh and let's add the armors' 50% damage reduction while we're at it

>Don't give me your "I'm so hardcore nothing phases me" bullshit
now that is just projecting. it's not my fault you're bad at video games

>>364645104
you got it upside down. the more you add freedom of choice to the player the more complex challenges you can create.

if you have a game where you can only jump, like bit-trip or flappy bird or something, you can not design challenge that involves any strategy, only timing the one action "jump".

>>364645530
to add bn and starforce are perfect examples.

star force is a lot easier because you only need to worry about the three tiles in which you can move. they added the guard to add more depth but it isn't the same as controlling a 3x3 grid.

>>364645530
This guy gets it.

X may have more maneuverability, but his enemies are that much stronger to compensate.

In Megaman Classic, every boss has about 1-2 moves + the ability to bump into you for damage. In X, the number of moves you have to learn is no less than doubled.

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>>364645530
and because they are so simple to design you can add increasingly hard challenges as you go along since it's an easy to master concept. When you have all these abilities to take into account it becomes harder to design a challenge as one problem has many ways to be solved because of all the new options

if you're seriously telling me you can't make a challenge with only "jump and shoot" as your main controls you really need to play more games. pic related is hard as nails but never gives you bullshit traps or anything of the sorts. You have one command: jump

>>364645418
Challenging? Heh, stop being bad at games kid. If you can't beat X6 on X-treme with one hand tied behind your back ...well I would call you a blind retard but that would be an insult to blind retards.

Megaman X is a hard game
FOR ANTS

>>364627348
Came here to post this.

>>364629776
...He is. He's basically transcended the physical realm, has basically accepted conflict is inevitable and fucked off from the affairs of men, and only makes an appearance at all to help his friend.

>>364646295
Holy shit its my boy Ogmo from Meat Boy

>>364645530
Except they didn't create "more complex" challenges. It's just more jump puzzles, except you can wall-jump now, so you can't actually lose.

>>364646295
Kind of irrelevant to Megaman, though, isn't it? Megaman classic is easy peasy with few exceptions. The main one being Megaman 1.

And you could probably call that "artificial difficulty" if you like /v/'s buzzwords. Since the NES games don't give you adequate ability to dodge absolutely everything.

>people still think that biometals are souls
They are just DNA
X and Zero fucked off to reploid heaven forever

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>>364646548
>from meat boy

I didn't even know ogmo was in meat boy, but yeah that's him

http://www.mattmakesgames.com/

jumper is pretty neat but it can get ridiculous later on in the first games, but finishing a challenging level always feels great

>>364626206
Do you own a copy of Mega Man X? Put the cartridge in the SNES/load up the ROM. Wait until it gets to the title screen. Wait some more. Profit.

>>364631192
>guaranteedReplies.txt

>>364646640
>NES games don't give you adequate ability to dodge everything

you fucking what? just learn the enemy patterns and jump before they attack instead of trying to react to them as they approach you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVg2KcC8JDo

>>364646295
>if you're seriously telling me you can't make a challenge with only "jump and shoot" as your main controls you really need to play more games
i did not tell you that. i told you that

> you can not design challenge that involves any strategy, only timing the one action "jump"

which is example of

>the more you add freedom of choice to the player the more complex challenges you can create

your picture like many other games require immense reactions and timing, but you don't need any multitasking skills or strategy. just excecution.

X is also mostly just execution but is there is more freedom of choice to all the problems. for example you need to know can you dodge the attack of boss by climbing the wall, dashing or jumping or shooting, while in original series the choices are jump shoot and slide,

i hope you are starting to understand what we are talking about

>>364646845
Super Meat boy has a fuckton of indie guest characters

Ogmo
Flywrench
Jill
Alien Hominid
Gish
The Kid
Commander Video
etc

>>364647038
Look, just because you CAN memorize every frame of animation doesn't mean a player should be expected to. I never said it was "impossible," just that their expectations were frequently unreasonable for a human, and they were.

it doesnt stand for anything, its just there to make the title sound cool.

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>>364647203
>Since the NES games don't give you adequate ability to dodge absolutely everything
>video shows a player dodging absolutely everything

you did say it was impossible, you just worded it differently. but fuck it, you're too dense to accept constant explanations and despite being proven wrong over and over you still try to find unexisting ground to stand on, gif related. I'm done

>>364633194
it's exactly a flashback. much like light activated X now and then to talk with him while he was being built (according to MHX), Wily apparently did the same with Zero, and would do typical wily gloating and cackling.

>>364647606
I didn't shift the goal at all. I said "players." Not "perfectionist speedrunner assholes who eat, breathe, and sleep one game." I can see where you got confused in your eagerness to prove me wrong though.

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>>364635707
I'm gonna go ahead and cheat

Ya, Mega Man Xenophobia you stupid ball bag

>>364647826
>perfectionist speedrunner assholes who eat, breathe, and sleep one game
ie people who play the game. players.

>>364647996
People who play one game and nothing else are no longer eligible for that title. Or do you really believe any challenge is fine as long as someone who played it for 30 years straight can beat it?

What's that? That's not the metric by which challenge is measured? Oh that's right, that would be retarded.

>>364642698
I recently popped X collection in and started replaying 1-3.

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>>364636558
every day i wake up and wish i had this fucking controller

>>364648354
i never played the collection.

are they straight up ports?

i could not imagine playing any 2d games with gamecubes small d-pad. while ps pad is good it would feel dirty for me to play x1-x3 with something other than d-pad. inverse for x4-x6.

>>364648638
At least the X anniversary collection didn't REVERSE THE FUCKING A AND B BUTTONS.

Holy shit I hated that.

You are now aware that Light started developing X after Rock showed signs of being maverick in MM7.

>>364648878
I like the concept. But he probably wouldn't be classified as "Maverick" that early. Nor should that really even be possible.

>>364648638
X collection is also on PS2.

they are pure ports. X1-6.

X1 & 2 of their SNES counterparts.

And X3, is a port of the PS1 port. Complete with anime cutscenes and arranged music. No option to switch to the original tracks like Anniversary collection though.

>>364649027
the ending where he threatens wily and is about to kill him is textbook maverick behavior

>>364649343
There's 4 games after that, and Wily doesn't breath a word about his virus causing that. And Zero is still in development some time after Megaman 8.

Megaman is also not a reploid, so one has to even question if he'd even be affected by the Zero virus.

>>364649554
In retrospect, reploids didn't exist in Wily's lifetime, so I guess you can't really say the virus is designed FOR reploids. Probably just machines.

Still, the first point stands. And if Wily caused Megaman almost killing him, he'd probably scrap both the Zero virus AND the MM10 virus, roboenza.

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why megaman games have so godly melancholic tracks?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OArmiAMkkNk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK1Q5u0N5dg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oulnbm-IWO0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyMnDwZK_v8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azIXYrsQLcI

>>364648878
thats not canon tho.
in the original he doesnt say anything, and quietly disarms when Wily reminds him hes a robot.

actually, canonically, the moment Light started developing X was after the power fighters Arcade game, where Wily tries to guilt trip Rock over claiming to be better than him while killing his creations, and Rock takes the bait, having a moral crisis over the idea that he could have reasoned with them.

after the Light family remind him he's in the right, Light starts musing to himself that Robots should be able to decide for themselves what is right and wrong, to avoid that.

honestly Power fighters is the best Classic-X connection we could ever hope for.

Youve got Wily outright talking to Bass about Zero and showing him his blueprints, (as well as mentioning "another" project, likely the virus) and Light musing about Robots being able to make moral choices on their own.

fuck it helps it's a fun game too.

>>364650246
well to answer my own question, pretty much everything is fucked at any given time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi6EHQzWfy8

>>364641631
Honestly the "primitive" armor concept is pretty cool

>>364650427
I wish we could have gotten a 3rd Power Fighter game. Roll and Auto still aren't playable.

>>364649343
that was made up by the american localizers. that whole 'I gonna do what i shoulda done, die wily" stuff was added in to be edgy.

in the original japanese, he does point his buster menacingly at wily, saying something along the lines of "you can't trick me!" but when wily reminds him he's a robot and cant hurt humans, Rock puts his buster away and is silent.

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>>364650793
Only the "Die Wily" part was ad libbed. He still threatens Wily.

>>364649734
technically the Virus is designed for Zero. specifically. at the same time, it's just a more potent version of Roboenza, that makes robots go insane and makes electronics and machinery go haywire in general.

the idea that it makes a reploid evil has more to do with Sigma being the brains behind the virus' brawn.

>tfw you think of X as a "what if" type timeline
I love X, but I just hate it being the canon outcome of a series that was basically "wacky old man tries conquering the world". Going from Wily antics to a damn space colony killing off 90% of humanity is just kind of jarring.

>>364651084
I don't think it was supposed to make reploids just insane. Someone mentioned this in a previous thread, that Zero hesitated because it was affecting him in a way it wasn't supposed to and Wily held him back or something? I wish I could remember the context.

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>stage select music changes

>>364649343
Megamans behaviour at that point might have been a glitch or a revealed flaw in his AI design, and it might have inspired Wily to make the maverick virus. It was probably caused by overworking and overstressing Megaman beyond his original design capabilties. (Wilys constant assault could actually be killing/corrupting Megaman faster than Light would ever admit to him)

But megaman couldnt be a maverick because he doesnt have a full grapse of free will. Ultimately he will act upon his core programmed nature, even if its to his detriment. I think as Dr. Light designed robots aged, they gained more free will but couldn't process it properly, leading to irratic behaviour.
Megaman probably had a failsafe. Even Blues probably had a failsafe (but likely acted in the way he did due to advanced aging and stress from being built with a massive design flaw that cut his lifespan down)., but having a failsafe in place probably wasnt enough for Dr. Light.
He wanted full artificial life. True free will. So thats why he made X.

Wilys robots likely dont have all those failsafes in place. Its probably why Bass is so damn unpredictable and unstable. Wily probably deactivated all of the failsafes and jacked up his powers.

He probably made the virus from his experiments with Bass.

>playing megaman games for the story
This is what killed video games

>>364651634
nobody started playing mario or megaman because of story my simple friend. people start caring when they love the games.

I want X9

>>364651329
Best stage select theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAOH5HghYnI

>>364651182
>X as a "what if" type timeline
That's fair. You're certainly not supposed to be worrying about future genocide while firing lemons at element themed robots.

>>364650608
>you now realize that the reason it was "old" is because Light LITERALLY based both armors on the mega man 6 rush adapters

>>364650964
the "I gonna done what i shoulda done years ago" was also changed. it's intonation and more aggressive implications are different than the original where it's more like "you can't trick me again", or something. it changes the meaning of the exchange

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Which button do you use for dashing?

L button here

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>>364652445
That's fair.

Although the internal dilemma is much better in my opinion. Especially paired with this sequence in the credits, and this kind of "troubled" music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRVzLmLbcBE

>>364652525
R

>>364652525
I'm so used to double tap it feels weird doing it any other way.

>>364653290
I never liked double tap for dash in any game ever. Like when you're trying to do repeated taps to position yourself on a narrow platform and end up dashing off it.

>>364653290
when you play the games a lot you stop running and your every movement is a dash or dash-jump. of course it is possible to use the double tap but holy shit that d-pad is getting beating

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>>364626206
>Xenophobic Megaman

>>364626206
Shit looks like a ripoff of Gundam

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>>364653810
Well he is voiced by Domon Kasshu.

>>364651289
I tend to hold to the theory that the virus was designed to pacify Zero. It acts as a power source, but it also affects Zero's mind. According to mega man Zero source material, while X has "perfect virus countermeasures", Zero has "imperfect" countermeasures. and it's possible that it's by design.

we know according to Inti, when Wily first activated Zero, due to a flaw in his cognitive program, he was excessively violent and unwilling to obey orders. So wily sealed him away and never used him for his intended purpose of killing Rock and Bass.

now: we know also, (thanks to inti, and thank god for their love of continuity) that the virus was leaking out of Zero's capsule the whole time before he was found. we know that after Sigma defeated him, when Zero was repaired and awakened by Cain, he was no longer a violent psycho. And we learned from inti that the reason Zero checked himself into that research center was because it was discovered that he was carrying the virus and spreading it as a Hunter.

we know also, that when he is bombarded with the virus in X5's bad end, he becomes a cold blooded killer.

so, the theory goes, the virus is designed to pacify Zero and dampen his emotional state to compensate his cognitive defect.

default crazy zero+virus=normalized Zero.

normalized zero+virus=wily's intended stone cold killing machine.

of course it is still a virus. supposedly it's a subspecies of Roboenza. and its clear that was their goal with mega Man 10, to establish a precedent.

Wily was inspired by 8's Evil Energy, so he copied the principle, the concept of a program with a body of energy. he applied it to roboenza, which spreads like a robot flu

>>364646646
At least model H is implied to remember to have fought as Harpuia, so they do have some conscience from the guardians. I say guardians because one of Ciel's reports in ZX states that she never actually found enough remains from X/Zero to make their biometals in the same way as the guardian's. She based models X and Z from data from model W.

>>364650964
>もう だまされないぞ Dr.ウイリー!!
What did he mean with this?

>>364654075
RIP sweet prince

>>364654168
>You will not be deceived anymore Dr. Wheel !!
I'm sure Dr. Wheel is relieved.

>>364654272
He's just retired, not dead.

>>364650246
because a alot of stuff in megaman are surprisingly grim if you think about it

>>364654272
He isn't dead.

>>364654075
I still prefer UC over FC

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>>364626206
Cross

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>>364650246
I love Black Burn so much, it hits all the right notes for a penultimate stage. It's a shame you can't go back there, but I think the music benefits from that too.

>>364654168
I will not be fooled anymore Dr. Wheelie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrUCZ3DQNGQ

Good shit

>>364654760
>X Corrupted will never ever come out

>>364654168
Wont get fooled again Dr.Who

>>364654810
Fangames take time, my man

>>364654630
Tycho, obviously. They had a huge back-and-forth debating "Megaman and Bass" being Megaman 9, but even MMNB came out after X.

>>364650246
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dseOlLwr1oM

>>364654168
cannot be bamboozled once more, doctah wahwee

its explained in maverick hunter x. Light named him as X as a variable for limitless potential.

>>364654896
YEEEEEEEEAAAAH

>>364654963
Megaman X can't even be Megaman 10 anyways because it came out 2 years before Megaman 7 even did.

>>364655019
i love this song
it gives a glimer of hope in the site where a great destruction occurred

>>364655187
actually after further research, I realize that X came out before MM6 even

>>364626206
Variable, as in 5x or whatever in Algebra, since his potential is limitedless

They can also be cheeky and have it now as a nod to Light's full name being "Thomas Xavier Light", which was added post-X3 if I recall correctly.

Zero is the same, though I bet they'll retcon that into him being Wily's first ever robot but he just never finished him

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>>364655187
At least we can shut down the argument completely now that we got an actual Megaman 10. We shouldn't even have to get into chronological order to prove it now.

>>364654760
I'm not sure how I feel about those sprites

MMX1-3 sprites were perfect

This is like some wonky kind of X4 for the SNES look

>>364655567
I think it looks different from X1-3 but good in its own style. Somewhere between X3/X4. The frames look mighty polished if anything.

>>364655567
The boss looks a little not great. But X looks OK.

>>364655764
X Corrupted originally used X1-3 sprites before falling off the radar

Bosses looked great too.

anyone think that the humanoid reploid laws in zx are kind of a perversion of x's wishes for humanity? the mandatory requirement proves that a true union couldnt happen naturally anymore, and the fact that the world is ruled by three men with no other positions of power known to be delegated exists.

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Cuz and ◯.

>>364655987
Nah. Humans need some adaptation so they are able to fuck reploids.

>>364655987
The mandatory stuff is only on mentioned on ZXA and ZXA is completely retarded anyway so I ignore it

>>364654168

Tricking me is now impossible, Dr. Willy

>>364637559

No, Capcom just can't into making money. If at any point they stopped being fucking retarded, made an actual Megaman 9 that would explain what happened between 8 and 10 (X), the X series would still be making them money right now. What they actually did? "OH YOU GUYS LIKED NES MEGAMAN RIGHT? WELL, HERE'S SADISTIC NES MEGAMAN, WE'RE NOT LAZY, WE'RE JUST APPEALING TO NOSTALGIA"

Fuck Capcom so much man, God I hate what they've done to so many of their IPs

>>364657024
I don't think they should make a mega man game connecting Classic and X at all.

And MM9 (and MM10, too, I guess) were actually very very good games for what they are.

>>364657146

Well, Dr. Light's existence in the series since X1 pretty much says fuck anything you think about, sorry. They, are, connected. And, before you contest anything else, stop being a kid born in 2000 and watch Zero's intro on X4. I never said MM9 and 10 were bad, I did say they were being lazy and just made an ultra hard version of a NES game (Twice)

>>364657024
Megaman 9 was the best possible game we could have hoped for. Fuck your "bridge the gap" desires. I don't want some emo "everybody dies" entry in my lighthearted series.

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>>364657878
I didn't think they weren't connected you illiterate. I just think it's better if Capcom never makes a game that ACTUALLY explicitly shows what happened.

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>>364658253
Especially because how would we ever get another Megaman classic game after that? I don't want to close that door.

>>364626206
>square buster arm
This bothers me more than it should

Elf wars game when?

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>>364658606
Arm attachments come in all variety of shapes and functions.

>what happened to megaman before X?
Why do people keep asking this? We know what happened to the OG Megaman.
The little dude got kidnapped and turned into quint.

>>364658253

At least add a noun after calling me illiterate. Also, definitely implied they shouldn't show ANYTHING happened AT ALL, leading me to assume you would think they aren't connected. Now, you're just saying you think it's better if Capcom doesn't explain shit, and I'll say it again, fuck anything you think about.


>>364658142
Fuck you, Zero kills everyone and you know it, show us already. Showing me dead Megaman Classic bosses with blood/oil on Zero's hands in '97 and never mentioning it again.

>>364657878
wew, watch that edge son

I love Megaman threads. I don't even mind people having different opinions about which saga is the best... but i just can't deal with autistic headcanons.

>Zero was dead all along!
>Dr Wily is Sigma's subconcious!

And more retarded stuff. What's worse, most of these fags don't know that X6, X7 and X8 aren't canon.

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>>364635707
>Quick! Post your favorite armor.

>>364658904
But megaman won't be dead. He became Quint......

>>364632110
The whole point of the X characters was that they didn't have to adhere to programming. Though that was more the goal with X, and reploids are derived from him, with Zero being made in parallel and clearly designed to be a certain way. I don't know if they ever talk about whether or not Zero is technically as advanced in terms of AI as X and co.

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>>364658483
Those robot masters are such wonderful designs.

>>364658904
Stop embarrassing yourself.

>>364658904
>Fuck you, Zero kills everyone and you know it,
but that's wrong, you fucking retard.

in fact, that he is IN the X series, is because he DIDNT kill anyone. otherwise Wily would have just taken over the world

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>>364658904
>and you know it
Except that part where it was openly denied by the man who had all the say in the matter at the time. Bad webcomic fanfiction has no place in a beloved video game series, I'm sorry.

>>364659000
>but i just can't deal with autistic headcanons.
>X6, X7 and X8 aren't canon.

perfect trips for a perfect comment

>>364658904
>Zero kills everyone
Conman confirmed that that's not what happened years ago.

>>364659257
>>364659350

More people who never played Megaman X4, go watch the intro to Zero's story on youtube then come back here and type that again.

>>364657024
Making a game that bridges the gap between Classic and X would not make them any extra money. The only people who are interested in knowing about that are diehard fans, and even then only some of them. These people would buy Mega Man games regardless, especially at this point, where buying a Mega Man game is about more than just receiving a fun game and more about a consumer statement.

What they could have done to continue profiting off the X series would have been to not make every single X game with the exception of 4 and 8 worse than the one that came before. Might have preserved a bit of the brand's luster.

>>364659436
You aren't being sarcastic, right? Why do you think X6 is the only onw that's not available in Playstation Store? Zero just goes to sleep for a gorillion years and appears like nothing in the next game that's not Megaman Zero?

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>>364659741

Well, who owns it now, Conman or Crapcom? I'm really confuse. I just want to know anything about Zero before X1 and Dr. Wily telling Bass in the 2nd Power Fighters game "Oh yea bitch robot? Well, I got a better robot with yellow hair and he's evil as fuck".

Like, I'll accept that, no one really cares about Zero when he was evil.

>>364659804
OK.

Zero didn't kill the cast of Megaman.

Boy, that was tough.

>>364659000
Inafune rewrote the Zero series because of X6.

>>364660108
>le conman isn't in charge of megaman anymore so what he did and said while he was doesn't matter anymore
I love this meme.

>>364659107
the only thing that makes reploids special is their cognitive abilities are equal to humans. they can decide right from wrong on their own, and can grow and change over time as people.

So for example, after X killed launch octopus, Squid Adler left the maverick Hunters over misgivings about how they do business, as well as being upset over Octopus' death.

Or gravity beetle joining Doppler's army just to get revenge against X because Boomer kuwanger was his brother.

in that respect, X and Zero are no different.

what makes X himself special however, is that he is specifically programmed to constantly weigh the value of Human life vs robot life. he literally has something called a "worrying/suffering circuit" that does just that.

>>364659873

Oh, you actually make sense. Well, Megaman's another fucked IP, they won't put any effort into actual Megaman classic (Hurf Durf NES game again), they just shit on the X series after 5, then everything else afterwards has to be played on a little screen. I'm just drunk and mad at Capcom

>>364659804
are you just baiting, because that's some really good bait.

that was just a dream. he has dreams about Wily, because Wily DID activate him periodically while building him.

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>My name... is Vile... I... am... I...
what did he mean by this?

>>364660183

Funniest thing is, X6 was just fucking abysmal man. They tried to give X a sword to make sales since Megaman Zero sold well, and didn't make shit. I don't know what's wrong with that company.

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>>364635707
I wanna fly high

I am the only one who unironically enjoyed Megaman X Command Mission?

>>364660101
I would assume because of licensing issues with the music. Just like they had legal trouble with releasing the legends games.

you can't seriously talk about autistic heradcanons and then unironically declare post X5 games not canon.

first of all, thats not what "canon" means.

even mega man Soccer is "canon".

what's NOT canon, is mega man X corrupted.

second of all, it's clear. X6's ending takes place at the end of the series. X8's Zero ending harkens back to X6. after that ending he seals himself for research, which yields Mother Elf, which leads to Omega, etc etc

>>364661013
No.

What the fuck does "ironically" enjoying something even mean?

>>364661013
Nope, I loved it, would buy a sequel in a heartbeat.

>>364660453

Well, apparently it's bait to say "Hey, Megaman X4 showed Zero being a murderous badass. Zero was a murderous badass at one point."

Not bait buddy, Inafune's just another Jap who doesn't actually think of an ending to his stories. Annoyed.

>>364661129
Liking something in part because of how bad it is. Finding appeal in bad voice acting or clunky mechanics that make you nostalgic for an earlier time. Liking something as a guilty pleasure, such as just because it's Mega Man and not because it's a good RPG. Etc.

>>364661013
there's no way a turn based, story heavy mega man rpg should have worked.

>>364661129
>What the fuck does "ironically" enjoying something even mean?

Means playing the game to completion for then to complain about how inferior it is in comparison to [Insert Favorite Game Here].
That happens a lot, for some reason.

>>364661065
>even mega man Soccer is "canon"
>X6's ending takes place at the end of the series. X8's Zero ending harkens back to X6. after that ending he seals himself for research, which yields Mother Elf, which leads to Omega, etc etc

Nevermind champ, you're one of the fags i mentioned in the first place. Why even post if you don't know what "canon" is?

>>364660120
>in fact, that he is IN the X series, is because he DIDNT kill anyone. otherwise Wily would have just taken over the world

Shut the fuck up

>>364661550

Anymore ad hominem?

>>364661324
>story heavy megaman
Lol yeah man the story was pretty weak.
I dunno who had the genius decision of ditching Sigma for a Villain whose gimmick is a name spelled backwards, but whatever.
The game is quaint in it's simplicity and was humble to end soon enough not to overstay it's welcome. I really liked being able to change the color of X's scarf, too.
10/10 would blast Metools again

>>364660789
X wielding the Z saber isn't a bad idea. It's just they implemented it SO BADLY.

X6 is bad for a lot of reasons, but giving X a saber move isn't really among them.

>>364661550
cthe literal definition of canon is a collection of books, usually sacred books, considered 'genuine".

everything written by Shakespeare, is part of the Shakespeare "canon".

every mega man game made by Capcom, is part of the mega man canon.

and you still ignored the rest of my reply.

>>364661967
the name business is the greatest plot twist ever. its so stupid it's brilliant

>>364662000
X6's saber gimmick is basically expanding on the X3 secret weapon

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>>364661013
As an RPG it's fairly middleground.
>too high encounter rate
>story is too short
>plotwise, no one matters after the chapter that introduced them
But it had a good battle system, the character designs are pretty top-notch. And it added some much needed lore in a series that kind of half-assed it before then.

>>364662254
In X3 it was a power move though. In X6 it's gimped as fuck for X. You may as well never use it in a combat situation, not counting the Shadow Armor of course.

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>>364662486
*teleports behind you*
Nothing personal, Kid.

>>364644354
Weil stole Zero's armor though, Omega wasn't even built at the time until Zero's titty armor was stolen.
meaning archie doesn't know shit about the lore

>>364662026
Yeah, fag has a lot of meanings too and yet i'm using it to show how much of a retard you are. I'm fine with your "lol, you can't prove i'm wrong, therefore you are the wrong one" because you're the one who isn't listening here.

Command Mission is not canon. I don't know why you speak of "canon" and "original" as synonyms, but they are not. The same applies for most spinoffs in other franchises, just because they are made by the original company doesn't mean they are canon (neither means that they are bad, which seem to be the case here. Seriously, the only thing i can think of when i see people so defensive about that word is that they feel that their game is being criticized).

>>364662026
>every mega man game made by Capcom, is part of the mega man canon.
I'm not so sure that's true. Megaman Soccer and Battle and Chase likely take place outside any perceived canon. Rockboard certainly does.

>>364662803
I'll be honest with you. I don't remember shit about that armor.

>>364652525
Grew up on Zero/ZX. L Button all the way.

>>364662486

Power move, what? In X3 the Z-Saber had RANGE. X6 saber doesn't, and when it's gonna work like that, that's when you leave it in the hands of the sword specialist. Why give him the saber at all? It's implemented badly because it has to be. Zero in X6 was insane with his Rainy Turtloid move.

>LOL, ZERO IS DEAD SO WE CAN GIVE X HIS SABER, BUT, WE'RE GONNA BRING HIM BACK TO LIFE IN THE SAME GAME


Man, fuck you Capcom. I should write a letter, wipe my ass with it, then mail it and hope it makes it beyond customs and the Crapcom mailroom. (I also have to find Inafune's address)

>>364659000
Why aren't they canon?

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>>364652525
O

>>364662846

>Spinoff
>Non-canon

Dude, capitalize your i's and get the fuck out of here already.

>>364663082
It's basically X6's Falcon with multidirectional dashes, bonus slash damage, a charged saber attack that deals a hefty ammount of damage and by far the best Giga Attack on the game.
Not as cheap, but more usable and conventional than the shadow armor.
Bonus saber damage, charged slash and SDC (Saber Dash Cancel) make the saber more than worth using.

>>364662978
The events of Battle and Chase were mentioned in Napalm Man's CD data in Mega Man and Bass, so it might be considered part of the main canon.

>>364663280
He means because the Megaman Zero series began before X6 was made, so it was intended to be a direct continuation of the events of MMX5. They had to later retcon that though.

Gunvolt characters vs megaman zero characters. who wins in terms of personality and character development?

>>364663209
I'm saying it was fucking strong in X3. Unless I remember wrong. It's been a while.

Either way I don't care if they take away the range, just make it actually useful.

>>364663280
Keiji Inafune was actually done with X5 when Capcom said "fuck that" and forced the saga to continue. You see, when X5 ends Zero goes to sleep and is awakened in the Megaman Zero series. In X6 and later, the mumbo jumbo retcon happens in order that autist like >>364663732 can keep living with their headcanon intact.

>>364664354
No, Zero dies in X5, leaving X his saber. In X6's Zero ending, he seals himself away, which leads to the Zero series.