>a video game based on a prog metal album Is this the new

That album was a /mu/ meme last year

I'd rather play a 2112 game

>>364441229
It frustrates me so much to see what DT has become.

>>364441370
my nigga

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>>364441295
And for a good reason, it was total shit.

>>364441370
>What's to play what is essentially "Ayn Rand: album edition"

No thanks, DT is already bad enough as is.

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>>364441229
This album is probably the worst album I've had to suffer from last year. It's over two hours of generic symphonic metal with too many ballads about a bad star wars / game of thrones fan fiction

Even worse is that I had to listen to it multiple times since I wrote an article about it. Not worth it at all

Is this a new album? I havent heard this one

>Astonishing

I quit after their S/T album, it was painfully generic. I know Portnoy is a meme himself, but at least that guy seemed to be awake and semi-passionate about what he's doing.

Looks like Chessmaster rip off

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>>364442147
>Portnoy seemed to be awake and semi-passionate about what he's doing
He's become delirious though recently, look at this shit he says about the new Neal Morse Band album

Spoilers: it's just as shit as the new DT

uh.. I mean vidya vidya vidya

>>364441229
tbf I'd like to see if people elevate it to levels of competitive play; like, autistic melee tier of metagaming

As much I wanted to like this album, it really really sucked.

>>364441229
why is dream theater so /patrish/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LHFswk8K3o

>>364441229
>>364442606
lmao a first year graphics design student could make a better trailer

>>364442486
I have not decided if I like this Album or not.

>>364442707
it gets worse, see below

>>364442606
>not posting the first trailer
https://youtu.be/B3YdzMy593Y

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>tfw the best dream theater song in years is from babymetal
https://youtu.be/02uq_GQAly0

>>364443198
Wtf? This song literally rips off Dream Theater

Are they fans?

>>364443198
>blocked in your country
should I be grateful?

>2.64 on RYM
ouch, must be pretty bad

everything put out by Dream Theater after 2010 is pure garbage

The Count of Tuscany was their last good song

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>>364444024
This is the producer's top 50 albums

Mike is a fan of it
https://twitter.com/MikePortnoy/status/814239777998458880

Babymetal is practically one big metal tribute band t bh

>>364444283
https://www.youpak.com/watch?v=02uq_GQAly0&feature=youtu.be

>>364444597
Didn't know that. Only baby metal song i heard was Cholate or something, and thought "that's pretty good, but i think i prefer Lady Baby more"

might have to try them out more

>>364444472
>The Count of Tuscany was their last good song

I mean, they're hardly poets, but christ have you heard the lyrics on that song? BC&SL is the one album that's almost as bad as The Abolishing

>>364444472
Muh nigga!

Love that song

>>364444776
the lyrics are terrible and the midsection is mediocre but the intro and ending parts make up for it

like i said its only good not great

>>364441229
So what, is this a cash grab? Or are DT so up themselves they just want to contaminate every form of entertainment media?

>>364441229
DT has been cheesy proge garbage since Metroplis 2

>discussing their shitty band and taste on a video game board
Creepy autistic thread.

>>364445292
Well no one wants to talk about a crappy turn based game

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>>364444752
I like Ladybaby but they are a blatant ripoff of Babymetal. Babymetal was actually created by a legit metalhead who cares about it, Ladybaby was literally created by a clothing company to sell their brand, and they actually propositioned the guy (Ladybeard) with "It will be like Babymetal, with you in it!"

Anyway, I don't take it out on the members and I think the music is fun but it does get annoying when a lot of times Babymetal is brought up and then "Ladybaby is better than this fake shit xD!"

They aren't the same group anymore btw. Shady stuff happening, the guy left and now they are literally called "The idols formerly known as Ladybaby".

Pic related is the guy behind Babymetal. Lmao at the people who think it's some corporate suits behind it. Metal doesn't sell shit in Japan, the average person doesn't even know what metal is.

>>364445438
So you decide to talk about a crappy band that's symbolic of everything that is wrong with "progressive" and "technical" music. At least the turn based crap is game related.

>>364445558
>Anyway, I don't take it out on the members and I think the music is fun but it does get annoying when a lot of times Babymetal is brought up and then "Ladybaby is better than this fake shit xD!"
Like I said, I didn't know Baby Metal was a "real" band, thought they were a joke band like Lady baby.
After hearing Tales of Destinies, I realize I'm wrong and will try listening to some of their other stuff.

But it's clearly a modified Dance of Eternity, but that's a good thing

>>364441229
Jesus Christ DT, what the fuck are you doing lately? I had to block the Astonishing from my memory when it came out. I almost wanna say they're making this kinda shit because Portnoy left but they've dabbled in it before this and A Dramatic Turn of Events was a good album without him. Not every album's gonna be a home run but they don't need to be strikeouts either.

>>364445635
/mu/ is too busy shitting on fantano to care

>>364445895
>/mu/ is too busy circlejerking kpop garbage to care
ftfy

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>Meme Theater
>2017

>>364446405
>Posting Meme Wilson

>>364446405
did this guy learn to write yet or is he still ruining all of his otherwise good songs with fedora lyrics

>>364446524
>not liking the king of modern prog

>>364446589
>listening to prog for lyrics

>>364446405
A man so bland that even his sad songs (see: every song) is dull

>>364446524
Not him but Steven Wilson's pretty damn good when his head's not up his ass about the purity of vinyl and how MP3s are worse than Hitler. Hand Cannot Erase is legit one of the best albums of 2015.

>>364446684
he could sing in another language or just shut his mouth, the reddit garbage is unlistenable

>>364446589
he's been too busy ruining opeth for akerfeldt

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>one of the best bands ever created with its own lore and perfect designs
>still no action game or hack and slash with them

>>364447107
I didn't know I wanted this

>>364445770
Oh, I wasn't talking about you. Depends what you mean by "real". The girls don't write the music(except for one song the two younger girls have writing credits), but they do have input on everything and have come up with stuff on their own. They aren't puppets and they aren't being exploited. There is a small dedicated team behind it all, it's much easier to swallow when you look at it as the producer's band and view Babymetal as one big passion project. Plus, they are blunt about it. They aren't trying to fool anyone.
https://youtu.be/58-YZpHijDM?t=4m35s

One thing I love about them is that both albums have such a wide array of subgenres. The one I showed you is their only progressive song. They have ska, viking, power, death, djent etc. songs just on their last album. Their first album was even more varied and a lot poppier.

What musicians have actually made, or at least are associated with, a GOOD game?

Iron Maiden's Speed of Light was pretty good from the other year
Brutal Legend is pretty fun

Is that it?

so can we all agree, systematic chaos was their last good album

>>364447286
if association counts, all of those meme artists from hotline miami

>>364442486
MJ's Moonwalker
Bowie sorta with omikron
Also the Beatles if the rock band game counts.

>>364447373
they never had a good album

>>364447373
More like Train of Thought

When Dream and Day Unite is their best album; everything post Moore is okay at best, and Labrie is a whiny hack

>>364447373
I liked A Dramatic Turn of Events personally. Haven't liked anything since though. If I had to list a favorite album, it'd be Octavarium, although their best song is A Change of Seasons without a doubt.

1. Metropolis Pt. 2
2. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
[Big Gap]
3. Octavarium
4. Images and Words
5. Systematic Chaos
6. Train of Thought
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90000000001. Everything not listed

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>>364447286
aye

>>364447286
Brian Gibson of Lightning Bolt worked at Harmonix and later co-founded Drool who created Thumper

>>364441295
>Dream Theater
>a meme
Well, what fucking else did people expect?

>>364441603
So just like every other Dream Theater album.

>>364447896
wtf I love Thumper now

but seriously, I love Lightning Bolt and was on the fence about thumper, this might actually get me to buy it

>>364444776
I like the lyrics in a very weird way.

The entire song is from the point of view from a kid, so I sort of accept the lyrics as really being the dumb ass thoughts of a kid.

But musically the song is fucking amazing. That intro.

>>364447657
Octavarium was the album that got me into the, 'these walls' is epic. but listening to the rest of the album there are a lot of shitty u2 songs. and never enough is blatanly a muse rip-off still knida like that song though.


I never really liked Metropolis Pt.2, and falling into infinity is one of my favourites do I have shit taste?

>This many DT fans on /v/

You bastards should show up to a fucking show, once they stop playing Astonishing.

I mean, I love DT, heart and soul, but I can not handle Astonishing. Its too far up the Ivory Tower.

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>>364447735
Six Degrees goes under the gap desu

>>364448272
Falling into Infinity has some of my favorite DT songs. Trial of Tears is fucking amazing. Every time Myung gets to write a song it turns out great. I don't know if they either don't let him write often or if he just chooses not to but he should seriously write more of their songs.

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>>364447107
>>364447209
Something something Monkey Paw

>>364448285
I would but they rarely play in the US since they're just not as popular here as literally anywhere else and I don't live five miles from the damn Canadian border anymore.

>>364444597
>There will never be a Dream Theater / Dragonforce tour

Fuck this gay ass earth. It was bad enough when I had to listen to Trivium for the 5 time live and each time because they were with an act I actually wanted to see.

I just want to rock. I need some kind of relief from this dull and grinding life.

>>364448285
I hated the Astonishing.

That being said, the concert was entertaining from a sheer production value standpoint.

Seeing people trying to do standard metal concert things in Radio City was pretty funny

>>364448650
Trivium's not too bad. I'm not a fan of Dragonforce but that's whatever, like what you like.

>tfw The Safety Fire broke up two years ago before I could ever see them

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Best concept album into vidya suggestions? I give my vote to The Lord Weird Slough Feg's Traveller.

>>364448742
Man, I always get stuck next to the buzzkill stewards/security, Ytse Jam is literally the song I listen to when I need to get pumped up for work. That shit comes on, I need to rock. I need to close me eyes, and lose myself for a bit. But every fucking time, its another mother fucker shaking his head and telling me he will kick me out of a rock concert, for rocking out.

>>364441229
>tfw i was expecting scenes from a memory pt. 3
>get The AssYawnMangining

>>364448954
Probably not the best but Metropolis 2 would be a fun, trippy as fuck game about jumping through past lives through hypnotherapy to solve puzzles. Would definitely play.

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>Tfw we will never get another album as good as Train of Thought.

Man, I remember listening to that shit for months back when I was 14. Good shit.

>>364444597
>Mfw yuyoyuppe is on his top 5
>and it's story of hope

Well that's probably a first. Real talk most of his albums are absolute shit (The instruments are almost overshadowed by all the unnecessary vocaloid screams.) Story of hope, Dear, Planetary Suicide and a couple of songs from solitude freak are the only albums worth listening.

I have to yet check if he has released any new material over the last year.

>>364450421
Stream of Consciousness was on a whole other level. No other song gets me so hyped.

>>364441229
I'm a total DT fanboy, and at best The Astonishing has around 25 minutes of good music. It was not worthy of being a double album rock opera, and damn sure doesn't need all this ancillary shit they are creating around it.

scenes from a memory > images and words > octavarium > awake > six degrees of inner turbulence > train of thought > systematic chaos > When Dream and Day Unite > falling into infinity > black clouds & silver linings > a dramatic turn of events > dt (2013) > the astonishing

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Suprised nobody mention this.

>>364444980
I really don't think it's a cash grab. If you watch interviews with the band, Petrucci especially, they are really sincere in that they think they have created the next Star Wars or Lord of the Rings with this album and story. They are way deep up their own asses. They really need to find a producer that will tell them "no" occasionally.

>>364450905
I can see it, but I'll never understand the love for Systematic Chaos. Forsaken was god tier but that's about it.

>>364447735
>unironically liking Octavarium

you wut m8

>>364451179
>he doesn't "get" octavarium

lmoa

>>364448428
agreed, I think dream theather suck every time they try to be a though trash metal band, Train of Thought is the only execption

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>>364450421
Yuyoyuppe is one of the main producers of Babymetal. He has credits on Death, Megitsune, Uki Uki Midnight, Akumu No Rondo, Karate, Yava!, GJ!, Sis. Anger, From Dusk Till Dawn, and a dope ass remix of Headbanger(my favorite Babymetal song, not the remix itself).


https://youtu.be/OWggmY2BDhE
Probably their best all time performance. Too bad we'll never see it again.

>>364451179
>he doesn't like octavarium

i bet you like anime

>>364451451
For the record for anyone watching this, they don't lip sync, this song is an exception because of the electro-infused vocals. One of the reasons they won't perform it again.

https://youtu.be/Lk21TGskpoU?t=210

special message for babymetal fans at 3:30

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>>364450564
I know man. Jordan's keyboard solo at the end is the shit.

>>364450968
>Tfw they fucking dropped the ball after United Abominations.

I know I will get shit for liking that album but honestly it was good. Endgame was eh..had a song or two that I liked but that's it.

Super collider though, jesus christ I don't know what they were thinking.

>>364451451
>yuyo is one of the main producers
Shiiiiit. I didn't know that.

I really dig Megitsune, and the whole metal resistance album, as I have to yet fully listen to the first one.

>Slipknot
>Doomsday Machine
>Pain Killer
>Clayman

Noice.

As much as I like spreading the disease, among the living is the superior album.

>Mfw half of the fucking song was their presentation.

That's pretty neat nonetheless.

>>364452195
>"I'm not fucking with you. I'm not buying that shit."

lel

>>364452195
Literally one out of 100 artists that fully endorse Babymetal. He barely even insulted them. They just opened an arena tour for red hot chili peppers and will again in april, opened for metallica last week, will open for guns n roses next week, opened for lady gaga in 2014, collaborated on stage with cthonic, dragonforce, skrillex, red hot chili peppers, and rob halford. I think they'll be okay.

>>364441229
The narrators voice is nice.

>>364452686
of course they will be okay. they're just a product.

>>364447896
Lightning Bolt... not listened to those in fucking years.

>>364453361
Product for who? The last thing you do in Japan if you want to make money is do metal. You don't know what you're talking about.
>>364447236

> Still no Ayreon video game

Hurts

>>364453626
But they're making it. I wouldn't see it as a bad thing btw, but products like Babymetal pursuit different aspirations as other metal bands.

>>364453686
Never ever.

And no Dragonland either.

>>364453913
I'm sure you have no clue about Babymetal and just speak on a surface level and have no idea of their origins. What do you think are Babymetal's aspirations?

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How about listening to good prog metal instead

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There is only one good metal band with initials DT

>>364454979
You clearly don't understand how the musical industry works and what makes metal bands so special.

Metal bands usually struggle to live out of music because they do everything by themselves for about 5 - 10 years before big gigs. After that, they pay money to contract big producers which allows the band to make a contract with big record labels. but this requires better mixing and mastering on his records.

Babymetal follows the "pop artist" formula, which is basically another person's project, a money-maker. The three girls you see on stage are just a remunerated face. Hence the different aspirations.

As i said before, i don't see it as a bad thing. but it's clearly a big difference.

this song is dope as fuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3XV5SeUBWE

>>364453938
to be fair any 8 bit fantasy game fits a dragonland album

>>364456219
Based.

>>364455987
But they weren't formed with a silver spoon like pop artists. They had such a shitty budget that they had to wear personal clothes and share with staff members. Nobody expected shit of them. He took a huge risk with the project. They started playing to small groups of ~20 people and they've done 100s of performances already. They've played at major metal festivals at 14 fucking years old knowing that a lot of people hated them and said they would throw stuff at them and turned crowd after crowd. There's a reason why their peers respect them. They worked their way up. They also don't do any advertising in Japan. No commercials, no tv appearances. Everybody does that there if they can. He didn't even want to do any western interviews at all but he was begged by their UK promoter. There are plenty of examples of these kinds of things.

You're looking at everything so stereotypically and black and white. The guy in charge has the same aspirations that metal bands do. This is his life's achievement and his baby. He has his hand in everything and will stick to his vision over popularity. In fact a lot of Babymetal fans hate him because they think he is slowly killing the poppy aspect and trying to make them full blown metal.

>>364446684
>king of modern prog
But Wilson isn't in Haken

>>364457847
Affinity was weak

>>364457104
>But they weren't formed with a silver spoon like pop artists. They had such a shitty budget that they had to wear personal clothes and share with staff members. Nobody expected shit of them. He took a huge risk with the project.

I agree. Everything is a big risk in the music industry.

> They started playing to small groups of ~20 people and they've done 100s of performances already.

Just like every pop artist. Correct me if I'm wrong, but i think they were part of an "Idol" group in Japan, and those groups are basically products of Japanese talent agencies. They're probably still part of another agency.

I don't think there's a single metal band with a record label contract and a talent agency support from the beginning. And that's the difference with Babymetal, they're just a product of "Amuse", which doesn't imply that their music is bad in any way.

>>364458325
It's not Visions but it grew on me.

>>364458441
Amuse has talents ranging from models, actors, comedians etc and genuine musicians who formed on their own and have full control. 99% of artists have some type of support system like Amuse provides. To Amuse, they are a product as much as any metal band is to a record label/promoter. Koba is still in charge though, and it's not that for him. That idol group they were a part of isn't really a group more as a grooming program for young talent they scouted to make it in the entertainment business once they "graduate". The lead singer was a standout singer at a prestigious academy in Hiroshima since she was like 7 and it was all formed around her when Koba witnessed her.

He got a group together just like anyone else. A lot of bands do auditions for random people who never contribute to the creative process or take someone from another band, why is this so much worse? As long as the girls care about their group that's all that matters. And they do have input.

>>364450905
>BC&CL
>Before Dramatic and DT 2013

Go home Mike

>>364460017
>>364458441
Just realized you daid had a contract from the beginning.

Technically they didn't. That group they were a part of was the main group. Babymetal was just one of various subgroups. It wasn't even officialy a group until it picked up steam and broke off to form its own thing and got a record label deal.

It's more similar to someone in an acting school getting picked to do a broadway show and then getting a contract for a role after impressing execs.

>>364448954
Can I cheat and just say Iron Savior?

>>364448954
Lulu

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>dream theater made a new album

Is it good?

>>364458325
Not sure what about the album as a whole isn't clicking with me. It is an awesome album, but most of the songs don't seem to have any good staying power.

The Architect is top 5 song of 2016

>>364460017
>Amuse has talents ranging from models, actors, comedians etc and genuine musicians who formed on their own and have full control.

like Disney

>Koba is still in charge though

Yes, because it's his project. He's the producer, and that's what i refer to when i said "Babymetal is another person's project". You know, there's a difference in the path between bands like Gojira or Meshuggah and Babymetal; they're not part of talent agencies or other person's projects.

>He got a group together just like anyone else.

That's totally different. you're describing bands like NIN or Porcupine Tree, where a musician hires others. But Babymetal is more like a corporate project.

www.razor.tv/video/684979/babymetal-cutest-headbangers-on-the-planet

>"None of the three members knew what metal music was before the inception of the band"

Really makes you think

>why is this so much worse?

i never said that.

>>364460943
dont buy it....

>>364461336
by Dont buy it I mean, Check out Dramatic, and DT, but Astonishing will probably Astonish you with how fast it will put you to sleep.

>>364441752
>Even worse is that I had to listen to it multiple times since I wrote an article about it. Not worth it at all
Post the article.

>>364461083
I think it might be the pacing.

I downloaded The Astonishing on a whim but as soon as I saw the number of tracks I knew it was gonna suck

I still like Metropolis Pt 2 the most since it's the first one I heard

>>364441229
2017 is going to be a terrible year for video games. With all this shovelware popping back up and people being unwilling to buy new consoles every year, things can't last much longer.

>>364461175
Gojira and Meshuggah also have a unique sound unlike generic idolshit over chugging
>inb4 meshugachugachuga
muh fancy time signatures

>>364461449
I thought DT '13 was alright when I listened to it the first time around, but they did that thing where they kind of masturbated all over the album instead of actually playing.

>portnoy is far better than mangini
>people liking awake is a meme and it has the shittiest ending songs of any album i've listened to
>i've never listened to systematic chaos
>home is probably the best song they've ever made

>>364462058
best of Meshuggah right here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv5hxaRsQS4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmVzqjycA-o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1nGplcVZTQ

>>364462164
Systemic Chaos isn't very good, but The Ministry of Lost Souls is a gem.

>>364461175
>like Disney
Like literally every band/artist you know. My sister is in a PR agency in NYC and they have clients that are members in bands representing themselves, not their band. That's everyone's goal(although a bit different in this age with youtube and shit), the girls put in the work to get noticed just like these people did.

>But Babymetal is more like a corporate project.
Repeated shit I already told you was bullshit. Koba is more authentic than the majority of artists out there.

>>"None of the three members knew what metal music was before the inception of the band"
No shit, that is literally the most basic knowledge. Three 10 year old Japanese girls didn't know what metal was when they were asked if they wanted to be a part of it. Who woulda thunk? I already said in a previous post that metal is dead in Japan and the average person couldn't tell you what metal is.

If Koba is authentic, and it's his group, then how is it so different? Would it be just fine if he was in the band himself on stage? That's the only difference.

>>364462058
>mfw
http://www.antimusic.com/news/14/August/ts22Marty_Friedman_Praises_Babymetals_Mix_Of_Meshuggah_With_Japanese_Pop.shtml

Also side note. I saw Gojira and Babymetal both at a metal festival in the summer. Babymetal got at least 5 times the crowd and way more rabid crowd with constant mosh pits, crowd surfing, and walls of death. Gojira were really good though.

>>364441370
I'd rather play a Hand. Cannot. Erase. game.

Where you avoid going outside and die alone.

>>364462164
I'm with you man, first time I listened to DT '13 I enjoyed it cause it was in the background while I was doing some work.
Then I actually ((((Listened)))) to it...
I think, it's because they had something to prove, like "Hey guys! look at us! even without Portnoy, we're faster and better than ever, look at all our elaborate machine-like drums and complex stuff all around! Don't worry, just keep buying our shit like always!
Needless to say, I fucking hate to say it cause it makes me sound like a Portnoy fanboy but DT hasn't been the same since he left. Coming from someone who bought Images and Words back in 96 and was hooked since.

I agree, Portnoy is better than Mangini. Not just in a technical sense, I think Mangini is one of the fucking fakest people I've seen ever. If you've ever seen the little audition show for selecting a new drummer you'll see what I'm talking about. I know people that went to Berkley while he was a teacher there and say that he was a tremendous asshole off-hours. The only people he acts all cool and friendly with are people higher than him in the industry and his students.

I'm glad someone else thinks awake is a meme album, everyone rides it since its one of the "oldies". It was mediocre back when it came out, everyone used to think so but no one said so because you'd be called a pleb.

Systematic Chaos is an alright album, if anything, its worth a listen.

good choice, however I disagree.
I think Dance of Eternity is their best song, when i think DT i think DoE.
then again theres good stuff all over the place Like Octavarium and Spirit Carries on.
Can I count 6 degrees side b as one track? if so thats pretty close too.

>>364464128
you're literally describing why Babymetal is a corporate project. They didn't make the band in their fucking garages, they were contacted by petition because Koba wanted to make an idol-metal project. months later they where playing at big gigs because they had the resources and contracts to make it through. That's no fucking different than your average k-pop project (ignoring the musical genre differences, of course).

I don't know why is so hard for you to understand that common metal bands don't follow the same path as Babymetal. Normally it's a much harder path, of course, but it doesn't imply the product is better by any chance.

You know that fucking 10 yo don't make metal bands to play in bars at 2 AM, right? that's the selling point. They were part of a contract like pop artists.

>>364464474


>Babymetal got at least 5 times the crowd

i don't know why you think popularity is relevant on this matter. Bands like Gojira look for transcendence, not popularity.

How little metal heads know about how much of it is fabricated and manufactured lol even at low levels.

>>364465597
I'm pretty aware bout that. Most metal bands spend money on producers at some points of their careers. But comparing normal bands to an Idol project is absurd.

>>364465534
There is a difference between corporate and manufactured doofy. So when someone like Corey Taylor who makes a side gig when he already has resources and fans to get it off to a great start make it corporate?

>months later
Years later. Their first music video got semi-viral in the west in 2011 due to metal websites uncovering it and going "wtf japan!" and they have been building slowly in the west ever since. Japanese fans said that they weren't even popular in Japan until recently. Seriously don't compare it to kpop at all. Shows how much you view things as the most basic level lol

>>364462164
Uninstall
Awake is a classic, Mangini is better because he can focus on one thing for more then 5 seconds, you are just bitter because The Looking Glass and Build Me Up Break Me Down are medicine you can't stomach, [Insert Meme Here], you probably play League

>>364466141
Corey Taylor's path was different. He is what metal heads call a "sell out", but his origin with slipknot was the same as every metal band you know, and different than an Idol project.

>Years later. Their first music video got semi-viral in the west in 2011 due to metal websites uncovering it and going "wtf japan!" and they have been building slowly in the west ever since. Japanese fans said that they weren't even popular in Japan until recently

don't you know how long it takes to a metal band to make it to the same stage? at least 10 - 12 fucking years. Babymetal's path is very similar to kpop groups, but of course, their products can be different.

>>364444597
Some great stuff there.
I love how Vanishing Vision from X is the number two on that list. One of the best Albums no one has ever heard.

Why only a greatest hits from Pantera?

>>364441229
>making a game on the worst DT album
why
WHY

>>364465534
>i don't know why you think popularity is relevant on this matter. Bands like Gojira look for transcendence, not popularity.
I'm not saying it's a bad thing anon, just mentioning it.

>>364466941
>sell out
Jesus. Grow up.

Is it their fault they rose up that fast? Corporations can't force people to be famous. They got no hook ups from Amuse, just a small budget. Koba did everything himself. He had connections from being a well respected metal producer for a long time. How do you think he got some of the best musicians in the world to play the backing band? And kpop groups are all started with a silver spoon with top of the line production and they will be killed in months if they don't get ultra popular. That's exactly what happened with Pritz, who tried to copy Babymetal. They are also form 1-3 years before they ever debut with rigorous training to be "perfect" by the time they are unveiled to the public. Nothing like Babymetal or even Jpop.

Refer to this post >>364445558
That is the epitome of corporate. Stop confusing manufactured as the same thing.

>>364468103
That's his favorite band. Babymetal does a bunch of call backs and tributes to X Japan. Yoshiki loves them back and attended a show out the blue once and said multiple times he wants to collaborate. He was also inspired by them and wants to make his a similar group called Lady's X. Young girls but they will play the instruments too.
http://ladys-x.net/

Babymetal have two songs that are inspired by them.
https://youtu.be/fbbO8EnKSpw
(Endless Rain)

https://youtu.be/bXp2HVg0Z30
(Kurenai)

>>364451451
It's somewhat weird to see Mayhem in a list and not also a burzum disc.
Is good to see Nile on the list, too.

>>364468103
>>364469932
If you're wondering what #1, 3, 4, and 5 are because they're in Japanese here it is

1: Seikama-II -The End of the Century
3: Nunchuk - Best of 1993-1998
4: Maximum the Hormone - Yoshu Fukushu
5: Yuyoyuppe - The Story of Hope

>>364468793
>Jesus. Grow up.

"Sell out" not an expression that i use, i just pointed how the metal community refers to corey, that's all.

>Corporations can't force people to be famous.

you can't be this naive

>They got no hook ups from Amuse, just a small budget

now you're talking up your ass.

>Koba did everything himself. He had connections from being a well respected metal producer for a long time. How do you think he got some of the best musicians in the world to play the backing band? And kpop groups are all started with a silver spoon with top of the line production and they will be killed in months if they don't get ultra popular.

Again, you're describing how Babymetal is other guy's project, and that's what i pointed on my first post. Anyways, none of the previous words stops you form enjoying them, and i think they make a pretty good product.

I feel autistic as fuck after this conversation, so this is my last post. Have a good night.

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>there will never be a Ziltoid game

>>364470867
>you can't be this naive
They can only help, and Amuse did NOT.

>now you're talking up your ass.
Except I'm not. Remember how I told you they were a subgroup? There were a few and Babymetal was towards the bottom of the totem pole. The other subgroups got pushed and Babymetal didn't.

>>364441603
idk there was some bad and some good. i wish they had different vocalists for each character rather than labrie trying to emulate different characters while singing. but life left behind was pretty based, same with a new beginning, road to revolution, and moment of betrayal.

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>>364441370

>Literally an album dedicated to the """genius""" of Ayn Rand (the liner notes originally even thanked her)

>ends up being saving their careers and the band in general

really makes you think...

>>364441229
Why. Dream Theater really needs to take a break, at least focus on some side projects, The Astonishing was not good but worst of all, boring.

>>364442707
>a first year graphics design student could make a better trailer
t. man who has never met a first year graphics design student

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>no game where you fight through worlds based on album covers

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Goddamn, no Portnoy, no soul.

Remember this album?

What happened?

>>364451179
Octavarium is fucking great man

Well like half of of but still

>>364455521
This was good but pretty much Coal 2.0: More Syncopated Rhythms Edition

>>364471842
It's almost 20 years old, that's what fucking happened

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>>364471748
Only if it has a healthy dose of Iced Earth

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>>364471748
FEELS FUCKING BAD
actually one of the greatest songs ever, and i can't stop listening to it. rudess' cover is pretty good too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbwDKtnKkbc

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>>364472112
>>364472252
don't forget iron maiden

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what is the Tesseract of video games

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>>364441229
When will this be a video game tho?

>>364474506
Never, which is kind of a shame because I wanna set the universe on fire.

>>364441229
this band went down the shitter so fast when Portnoy left

not saying they weren't autistic to begin with but fuck he sure evened them out

>>364474757
I would definitely play an RTS with a Space Knights of Crail faction.

>>364441229
The Metal Opera videogame when?

>>364474897
>not the Astral Dwarves from Aberdeen

>>364475087
Pathetic dwarves!

They should seriously make a parody game, though - something like an extreme version of Dawn of War meets Duke Nukem.

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DREAM THEATER CAME OUT WITH A NEW ALBUM?!

From best to worst:

>Octavarium
>Systematic Chaos
>Images and Words
>Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
>Metropolis Pt. 2
>Train of Thought
>Falling Into Infinity
>BC&SL
>Awake

Havent really listened to rest.

Best songs: Trial of Tears, Metropolis Pt. 1, Change of Seasons, Blind Faith, Sacrificed Sons, Octavarium, Stream of Consciousness, Prophets of War, Learning to Live, Panic Attack.

How huge of a faggot am I?

>>364477329

pretty accurate.

Surrounded is a good song too, six degrees is one of my fav songs and metropolis is probably my favorite album

Dream Theater is one of my favorite bands but that was like 5~10 years ago. They are the very definition of neckbeard core imo

>>364478053
Neckbeard core as in was pretty good, but has been pushing out mediocre titles out in the last 10ish years? And is the band people getting into prog metal start with? Pretty much.

I like Circus Maximus more anyway.

>>364479789

Liquid Tention Experiment and Liquid Trio Experiment are better than DT imo, but I do have a handful of DT songs that I really do hold in my heart.

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If your favorite metal album was being made into a game what would it look like?

>pic related
>Like Bloodborne but with Tsarist Russian aesthetics instead of Victorian England

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>>364480737
good taste

planescape torment meets VMT with cryptic hidden lore

>>364480360
Need to check those out. But same for me, songs like metropolis part 1 and trial of tears are in my opinion one of the defining songs of the genre even though they are pulled down by the bloated carcass that is DT today

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>>364480737
I don't know, RTS where you either try to destroy humanity or find a way to stop the invincible giant robot warship from killing everyone?

Listening to the song Home again right now; definitely one of their bests. I remember being so mad listening to The Astonishing last year, I hated every single song.

>>364480737
Something like brutal legends. Have lots of guest stars and references to dead rock stars like Dio.

>>364481280
ANCIENT CALLS FROM SOMEWHERE IN TIME

WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE SIGN

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>>364481613
That's from Unification you nigger

DISTANT VOICES
SOURCES UNKNOWN
WHERE TO THEY LEAD US
WHERE WILL WE GO
ON THE SCENT FOR THE LOST
COMING HOME

>>364444597
Imagine being an influential music producer who can create an underage pop idol project and make them mimic your favorite metal music.

>>364481725
I don't know, I used to be a huge Gamma Ray fan and then stumbled on Iron Savior by association and then had that song on repeat for I think a week straight.

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>>364480737
not my favorite album but it could make a really good game in the dishonored universe.

>>364471151
>Wrap your lips around my space knobble
>and gobble

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AND THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVE

What age did you grow out of metal /v/?

>>364481845
Well check their albums out senpai. Condition Red is a good starting album but all their stuff is damn good. Iron Savior are consistent when it comes to quality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHkaUvCET_o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsQY3duvMcc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCc__E4HYPQ

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>>364481770
And then make your favorite band of all time mimic you
>>364469612

>>364481984
What age did you grow out of dismissing whole genres /v/?

>>364482413
The same way I dismiss children's movies from actual film, or picture books from literature.

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>I'M A MAN ON A MISSION AND MY DOUJINS DON'T WAIT

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>>364480737

>>364482583

if you can't appreciate children's movies as an adult you live a sad life.

which is an accurate observation considering your use of the dank 'metal is for kids' maymay, faggot.

>>364482583
But anon, that doesnt make any sense since you are at videogame board.

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>mfw my music tastes have changed from prog rock and electric guitarists to pretty much nothing but synthwave and retrolectro

the neckbeard remains protected

>>364483220
I'm not talking about 3D feature films like Frozen or Inside Out, I mean films directly targeting children that have no deeper context to them.

Your childish outburst is quite fitting however. The best thing right now it to stop replying.

>>364483652

eat shit faggot.

>>364483652
Tell us then what kind of music you listen to. I bet its reallly mature and deep with amazing message

>>364455521
Discovered this album when I was reading through Mistborn. They go so fucking well together.

>>364484386
lo-fi, breakcore, ambient folk drone, mathrock, I could go on.

>>364484230
Case in point.

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>>364480737
Basically I would imagine it being an action game where you drunkenly punch a bunch of giant bugs.

>>364484552

Eat shit faggot.

We're clearly not as smart as you to listen to listen to a graphing calculator like a conch shell.

Babymetal on the next Avantasia album when?

>>364481980
That album was so terrible tho.

Aside from Rourke's Drift, it has basically nothing. Shiroyama was fun in a "I can't fucking believe they are actually doing this" kind of way.

4/10 almost worse than Metalizer

>>364473417
That literally was already a shitty video game

>>364485184
I'd say it was a 5/10. It was a mixed bag which had some really good stuff like The Last Stand and Rorke's Drift mixed with songs that were just plain fucking bad like Sparta and Blood of Bannockburn.

>>364441229
listening to an entire album from this band could cause several suicides

>>364481879
so you want a Moby Dick game?

>>364444597
>Relentless Reckless Forever
Guess he didn't listen to COB too much

>>364441229
I love Dream Theater so fucking much but that album was dogshit. What was they thinking? Portnoy leaving was a mistake. So glad Fates Warning came back to save me from my misery.

>>364484552
Im sure they are alright, but genrenames make then sound like the most pretentious nofunallowed music as anything can be.

>>364451451

>watch video

>expected metal

>its fucking dubstep

what the actual fuck anon

>>364447735
Awake is godtier.
I unironically like Falling into Infinity as well.

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wintersun anything pls

>>364487835
jari is a hack

>>364485061
You fucking joke, but I bet Tobi would do it.

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>>364487863

>>364487630
reeeEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>364487630
Like I said, it's a remix. The guy who remixed it got his name made in the vocaloid scene. This is the original, it was made by Narasaki of Coalters of the Deepers if you heard of them.
https://youtu.be/2IzR_ClTE8Y

>>364487835
New album when?

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>>364487835
>New album coming in soon.
Fuck, i can't wait.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLZPmpNgVqk

>>364487863
Say what you want, the music he produces is perfect.

>>364488049
forest of seasons more like forest of hacks

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>>364441229
>The Astonishing is set in a dystopian future United States and follows the Ravenskill Rebel Militia in their efforts to defy the Great Northern Empire of the Americas using the magical power of music.

>>364487883
When's Edguy gonna release a new album, anyways? I got high hopes after Space Police.

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>>364441229
Really makes one ponder

>>364488041

>pretty sick metal song in the background

>mixed it so you can only really hear this bitches vocals

shes alright, but i just wanna listen to the fuckin song damnit

>>364488247
A few years at least. Ghostlights came out only a year ago.

Kevin Moore leaving Dream Theater was not a mistake.

https://youtu.be/k0NCIF7yWNs

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>>364488173
>>364487863
>This nigga mad as fuck @ Jari trolling the fuck outta people in facebook.

Lmao, the only thing that pisses me off about Jari is that he seems to be a perfectionist, he wants a fucking studio to finish time II cause he wants that shit to be flawless, he says he can't do it with the current resources he has.

I don't understand, time I was fucking amazing.

>>364444597
Jesus fucking christ the level of high school TRAAAASHHHHHHHH

>Bring me the Trashrizon
>The Trash wears prada
>Bullet for my Trashentine
>EnTrash Shitkari
>Memeforce
>Memekin Park
>Meme Bizkit
>Neckbeardhemoth

etc

>>364447286
Maiden's mobile game is pretty decent too. a bit too basic and shallow, but it looks good and doesn't try to push microtransactions on you (or at least didn't when i played it).

Kinda wish they tried to make a proper game again tho, Eddie would be a fun character to play as.

>>364487835
Gibe sauna :D

i'm gonna be that guy and chime in with an opinion no-one asked for but train of thought was their last good album

>>364488473
>>Bring me the Trashrizon
>>EnTrash Shitkari
>>Neckbeardhemoth

Damn bro how do you come up with this shit

>>364471842
THERE'S A ROOM ON TOP OF THE STAIRS

>>364488496
>people don't get that the sauna shit was a joke.
The studio where Time I was recorded has a sauna, this is why he said that shit.

>>364488447

>fucking finland
>a barely decent studio doesn't even cost that much to use
>nuclear jews fucking jewing the shit out of him

i wish i could throw more hamburger land dollars at them

>>364487835
The first album was their only good one. Time I is overproduced wank and has absolutely no emotional depth.

Wintersun is what you get when you take an interesting concept and polish it so much that it ceases to have any imperfection or personality whatsoever.

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Stop listening to proge

>>364488447
Time 1 was shit mate.

>>364488317
How about the ending of the concert in the video of that remix. It's not anything groundbreaking but it's really hype and has barely any vocals. All their music sounds better live, plus she gets crucified in it too(on her birthday lel) so it's fun to watch.
https://youtu.be/P4_819ryJ1o

>>364488473
Surprised it took this long. Anyway, Japanese people don't really have the same stigmas in metal that western people do. Same way a lot of Japanese metal gets a lot of love even though it's guilty of no-nos here. Like Maximum the Hormone, Crossfaith, and Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

Goes both ways.

>>364488589

>so every sophomore record ever

nigga we need him to do at least 2 more projects before he really gets good

>>364481980
THROUGH THE GATES OF HELL!
AS WE MAKE OUR WAY TO HEAVEN!

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How can an album be good if it doesn't even feature Björn "Speed" Strid?

>>364488664
>do at least 2 more projects

Sure, wake me up in 2065.

>>364488756
You're awfully optimistic.

>>364488756


>silly impatient millennials

we need people to invest him, more like 2020 if the jews stop fucking being kikes

>>364441229
Sheeeit I used to love DT. Good times.

>metal and prog are the most popular genres in a board filled with man children pseuds
Who could have seen this coming?

>>364488649

>pretty gud

>next track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9miB6jKLRw

fuck yeh m8

these nips can fukin riff

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>>364480737
My favorite album from 2016 would make a great addition to Lovecraft themed vidya.

>>364488216
Wank like this is why prog effectively died in the 70s.

which genre has the most autistic fans metal or prof rock?

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>metal

are you 12 ?

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>>364488997
I very much enjoyed your favorite album anon.

>>364489095
Prog metal/rock, by far.

Dream Theater and every band like it are the go-to for smelly "born in the wrong generation" highschool drama nerds who want to show off their SUPERIOR MUSICAL TASTE

>>364489201

>implying you have taste

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>>364489201
>tfw completely comfortable with my tastes and feel no need to prove anything

>>364441229
The sequel of Victor Vran will be based on Motorhead album. But i like the trend.

>>364489180
Best power metal album of 2016 right here. Second half of Earthbounds is goddamn choice

>>364489201
That's pretty sad considering most of it is garbage.

>>364489201
The biggest problem with metal is the subset of people that make the mistake of thinking that being different is the same as having a personality.

>>364464624
That's some fine taste there anon

Personally I would love to see an Ayreon video game/visual novel.

>>364489201
I thought metal fans knew they had no taste and will eat any piece of slop poured in the metal bucket. They must be at least that self aware.

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>>364489180
I still haven't listened to this album. Going to do that now.

>>364489478
I soured on Ayreon after I found out how he screwed Bruce Dickinson and cost himself an album long collaboration.

>>364441229
Dream theater fucking sucks

>>364489518
Folk Metal meets Maiden is what I've heard it described as most.

>>364489593
more like Dream Queerter lmao

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>>364488997
>>364489180
If I had to pick a favourite from 2016, I'd go with Terminal Redux.

>>364489550
It wasn't entirely his fault.

Iron Maiden's manager has literally everyone in the band paranoid as fuck about collaborations.

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>>364447286
KISS Pyscho circus was a decent FPS.

>>364488947
Yea, that's the live version of the original video here >>364488041
I told you they sound much better live.

They got some great power metal songs too if you're into that. Just don't go expecting hard hitting metal every song, they got some very poppy ones too, they even have a rap and a reggae segment in a couple different songs.


I think this song is a perfect blend of heavy and pop
https://youtu.be/ng8U_j0gpLI

Also showcases the backing band's virtuoso levels of skill.

>>364474506
NOW THE GALAXY SHALL ONCE AGAIN TREMBLE BEFORE THE MIGHTY OF ZARGOTHRAX
*heavy rifts start playing*

>>364489689
Is that shit like Serious sam?

>>364489651
Too bad Dave is such a cunt that he managed to drive out literally the entire band.

I think he writes pretty much everything so I doubt it will affect the music tho

>>364481980
I'm going to see them in 2 days along with Accept and Twilight Force(?)

I dunno if TP will play in this tour or just aid with the instrumentals/vocals in some Sabaton songs

>>364489201
woah, so much asspain

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This album would probably make a good game.

>Warp Riders tells the tale of Ereth, an archer banished from his tribe on the planet Acheron. A hardscrabble planet that has undergone a tidal lock, which has caused one side to be scorched by three suns, and the other enshrouded in perpetual darkness, it is the background for a tale of strife and fantasy, the battle between pure good and pure evil.

>The story of Warp Riders, entitled "The Night The Sky Cried Tears Of Fire" (written by Cronise), follows Ereth as he discovers a mysterious orb and meets the Chronomancer, a being beyond time and space who enlists him in a quest to restore the planet's balance. Along the way he encounters strange warriors, mysterious witches, ancient androids, and a crew of space pirates with a vessel that will alter the course of history... a vessel known as, The Sword.

I wish they'd make an iron maiden game that isn't mobiletrash

>>364489689
The fucking Clown Spiders gave me nightmares when I was a kid.

>>364489851
Fuck I just remembered I forgot to buy ticket for when they're in Seattle.

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>>364474506
>Fucking Gul'dan as the album cover.

Freak Kitchen is better.

>>364489854
To be fair we all knew that guy who fit this description in high school. I sure as hell did.

>>364471748
Well, there is Painkiller.

>>364489851
I saw them when they were opening for Amon Amarth like 2 years back. I'm not even super into their music but Sabaton puts on a super fucking fun live show. Top quality banter with the crowd too.

>>364489959
I knew a few D&D/music nerds that did.

>>364490269
>music nerds
Amongst music nerds all the ones I've met that actually play music usually prefer punk over metal.

>>364489949
Holy shit.

How's this not considered plagiarism?

>>364490390
Sure, but there's an important distinction to make between music nerds that actually play music and understand musical theory and "music" nerds that just wank over niche subgenres and keep an updated list of every album they've ever listened to in case they get into an argument on the internet

>>364489550
Don't really follow these events, just listen to the music. Theater Equation was one of my best muic experiences

>>364489949
Who cares, that shit was 100% inspired by warlocks

or "chaos wizards"

I love /mu/ threads, they make me realise that /v/ really isn't that cynical and miserable by comparison

>>364488924
t. indie loving nu-male

>>364490734
It'd be about the same in the reverse if people talked about videogames on /mu/ though

>>364491056
kek

>>364489095
>>364489167
>>364489201
Fuck off indie cucks

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>>364480737
Assassin's creed but with killing jews instead of templars

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>>364480737
A depressing visual novel
Also protagonist dies in all routes

>>364491042
>he listens to rock ""music""

>>364491108
I'm by no means an indie cuck. Most of the bands I like are part of major labels and headline internationally, but prog is still a shit-tier genre that's ironically fixated on replicating the past.

Prog ruined Opeth, and that's something I can't forgive.

>>364491108
>>364491042
What is it with metalheads and persecution complexes?

>>364447735
Change of Seasons was pretty good, m8
Although it's not really a full album.

Now Systematic Chaos is one of the albums I can't stand. Although this part gives me chills every time: https://youtu.be/AAnIjM3MWUE?t=127

>>364491310
>He listens to Retards Attempting Poetry

>>364491363
Well they have been persecuted for years and always seen as losers
Also they got almost pushed away from /mu/ due to Pitchfork drones and Gorespammer

>>364491363
Metalheads tend to persecute other metalheads, so you can understand the levels of persecution when you attack them with other genres.

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XBOX IS A GOD TO ME

Images and Words is my favorite album

rate my opinion on an objetive scale stemmed from your subjective opinions

>>364491459
>shits on rap
>listens to metal

Full retard. Pick up a goddamned history book, rap and metal/punk are literally the same thing - they're both counterculture genres that came about as a way for disaffected inner city kids to rebel against the system, and they both share a common ancestor in R&B/jazz.

>>364491459
>always seen as losers
People have eyes and ears. Most of the hate metalheads get is easy to see just reading the rest of your post.

>>364491363
Low self-esteem: the genre.

>>364491620
Learning to Live is so fucking good.

>>364491621
>shits on metal
>listens to rap

Full nu-male
>rap and metal/punk are literally the same thing
Hahahahahahaha

>>364491621
Punk is historically speaking more original than metal as it drew from several non rock influences while growing in its initial stages. Metal is at its core just dressed up blues rock and its twelve bars. Hip hop is a different beast altogether as it ditches cord progression orthodoxy altogether.

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ITT

>>364491753
>he thinks his opinion on music is worth dick when he doesn't know the first thing about musical theory, composition or even history

kys

>>364489856
I fucking love this album. Absolutely top tier.

>>364489859
They released Ed Hunter in 99.
It wasn't great.

Then again, it was just meant as an extra for a "best of" compilation, so it was to be expected.

A full fledged game would have potential tho.

>>364491791
>I AM SILLY

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>>364491765
>Punk is more original

>>364491765
Punk has been dead since the late 80s and made completely irrelevant by post-punk and post-hardcore

>>364491882
It's true. It at least bothered taking inspiration from raggea which is decidedly more original than metal ever got.

>>364491943
In a way agree in another way I see that as punk having evolved horizontally while metal just stagnated vertically.

>>364491984
You clearly know nothing about metal
Metal also takes inspiration from various genres

>>364489776
whaat, source?

>>364492082
I'm talking about at its core. That's why metal is so bleh for people who understand theory as these guys pointed out earlier.>>364490506
>>364490390

>>364490390
>prefer punk over metal
Maybe if you are Trump hating liberals

>>364441229
Album is fucking garbage like the majority of DT albums.

>>364492082
I like metal but it is at its core just blues rock. Even Black Sabbath acknowledged this.

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Djent is the future

>>364481725
>>364481280
Hallo... SAVE!...

>>364492265
>people don't have my taste for partisan reasons
>they are a caricature of what I don't like

>>364485184
Sad to hear that. I really liked Carolus Rex.

>>364492347
Metalcore and its retarded children were a mistake.

>>364492265
I don't relate to 40-year-old sad sacks singing about how badass they are, or dungeons and dragons bullshit. Punk is much more personal and unpretentious.