>We told you the 480 would be between a 970 and 980. >"LOL,

And keep in mind, this is with launch drivers, non DX12 games (something this gen of AMD cards excell with) and the 2 games it sucked at were of course gimpworks games (pure coincidence tho rite?)

>>343227675
Nvidia shills are everywhere

>>343227675
>refute all common shitposts in the op
way to go fuckface, now your thread is going to die

DELETE THIS DELETE THIS DELETE THIS FUCKING AMDUMMY


THE 1060 IS GONNA REVOLUTIONIZE THE PC INDUSTRY

Source: My step-cousin thrice removed works at Nvidia's Indian shilling center

Review copies have power consumption issue right now. This limits OC stability.

It could be just limited to review copies or the retail cards might be suffering from this too. We'll need to wait for more clarification on this issue.

Isn't it funny that AMD releases these miraculous benchmarks before release but as soon as the cards reach public hands they perform know where near what the benchmark got.

Face it.

AMD fucking sucks

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>>343229863
Looks like its right on target? Did you think this would be 960 competitor or 980ti competitor?

>>343229381
This tbqh. Shame about quality OPs with sound logic. Not much to say after that.

>shits on the performance of last gen's $200 cards
That's all it had to do to succeed and it did. Only cockmunchers thought it would be better than a 980 Ti.

>>343228179
fucking gameworks
jewvidia is the worst but i still buy their garbage

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>>343228220
Hahaha, here's the 15 game average

>>343230803
dunno why people buy the midline cards
wait for an rx 490

>poorfags

Enjoy your last gen card. Really.

>>343227675

b-but.. ;_;

>"Look at dem benchmarks!"
>"AMD is back, bay bee!"
>one set of actual benchmarks performed by a third party later
>"OMFG NVIDISHILLS!"

>>343227675
DELETE THIS!!!!!!!!
POST ONLY AMD OPTIMIZED GAMES!!!

>>343227675
>using an Nvidia Gameworks game for the benchmarks

>>343227675

THANKS FOR RUINING MY NIGHT ASSHOLE

I JUST BOUGHT THIS LITERALLY NOW, AS IN ABOUT 2 HOURS FROM NOW

FUCK YOU

>>343227675
>>343230803

Great next gen card, can't wait for the RX 580 so I can play games made in 2017 at 60fps.

People with "company loyalty" are fucking disgusting.
NVIDIA/AMDfags are just as awful as people who purchase each edition of the Macbook Air.

>>343230803
jesus what a fucking joke

>>343230881
$240 is cheaper than $349 or in nvidia's case $449 or $900

kek

>>343230881

poorfags gon poor

>>343230803
Oh man how long would a 980ti last me if I just go for 1080p

>>343230978
>poorfags being able to spend $200 on just a gpu
As if, a poorfag would probably get a $50 gpu off craigslist or a friend's hand me down gpu. I know because I'm on the edge of that, and have friends who do have to do that.

>>343230803
>480 half as good as 1080
what am i missing? are they not comparable?

what are their prices?

>>343230881
dunno why people buy cards when the still can't play any good games like bloodborne

>>343231683
poorfags can't afford a 800 dollar 1080 card retard, they can save up months for a 200 dollar one

>AMD still living

>>343230881
because the mindline cards are right now are fine for 1080p 60fps

the GTX 1080 and (I presume) RX 490 are overkill for what 99% of gamers aim for.

>>343231752
480 is 199$ for 4GB 250$ for 8GB.

1080 is 599$ + jew tax.

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>tfw your r9 290 is good for another 2 years
feels good shopping smart

>>343230881
but i like overclocking shitty pc parts, ive been doing it all my life

>>343231938
>Was worried my r9 390 was going to be a bad purchase
>It was a fine purchase and is going to last me a while longer

All is well

>>343232310
>>343231938

AMD at least updates their shit for old cards

900 series owners should start getting nervous desu senpai

I find it hilarious that AMD and Nvidia fans are both seeing this news as to their advantage.

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I will always buy Nvidia™ because I only play games The Way It's Meant to be Played™.
Nvidia™ also pioneers innovative new technologies like PhysX™, Gameworks™ and the highest quality driver to ever grace Windows. When I boot up with a brand new Nvidia™ Geforce™, I can experience the game just like it's meant to be played.
Nvidia™ also delivers a far more silkysmooth experience. Nvidia™ Geforce™ is also very power efficient. A graphic card is the most power hungry device in your house. Refrigerators, air conditioners, water heaters, dish washers, lights, etc all use significantly less power than a graphic card. Which is why Nvidia™ puts gamers first by ensuring that their gaming experience is of the highest quality while looking out for gamers by giving them the most value in their electrical bill.

At this point in time, there's really no reasons to consider an AMD graphic card at all. I tried one one time, it caused so much heat that it exploded. It also consumed so much power that it gave out an EMP and destroyed the rest of my computer.
Nvidia™ also pioneered how useless GPGPU is with CUDA™. Years ago, everyone thought GPGPU, CUDA™, and OpenCL were the future. Now, Nvidia™ has removed those useless features from their GPUs and increased efficiency. Now you can save thousands a year in electricity thanks to Nvidia™ ensuring that useless features like GPGPU are "optimized" for gamers.
It's quite clear that everyone here is an AMD shill trying to convince you to settle on something less than The Way It's Mean to be Played™. Nvidia™ is the only real way to play games. We have seen recently that they offer incredible libraries for software developers like Nvidia™ Gameworks™.
Everyone is probably too poor to afford the Nvidia™ Geforce Experience™ and can not afford to play any games The Way It's Mean To be Played™. Don't be a poor gamer with bad drivers and a huge power bill.
Play games with the Geforce Experience™: The Way It's Meant To Be Played™

>>343230881
>>343231835
midhigh is always the best to buy.

It can always max out games, and when they get outdated enough you have used it for a couple years.

I will never understand buying top of the line, when the next year something better will come out for half the price.

Although I imagine only rich people buy shit like the Titan X.

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I will always buy Radeon™ because Gaming (has) Evolved™. AMD are also pioneers of innovative new technologies like GPUOpen™, Mantle™ and the highest quality driver to ever grace GNU/Linux. When I boot up with a brand new AMD™ Radeon™, I can experience the game just like gaming has evoled. AMD™ also delivers a far more silkysmooth experience. AMD Radeon™ is also cost efficient. A graphic card is the most expensive device in your house. Refrigerators, air conditioners, water heaters, dish washers, lights, etc all cost significantly more than a graphic card. Which is why AMD™ puts gamers first by ensuring that their gaming experience is of the highest quality while looking out for gamers by giving them the most value in their yearly bill. At this point in time, there's really no reasons to consider an Nvidia graphic card at all. I tried one one time, it caused so much errors that it bluescreened. It also consumed so much power that it gave on an EMP and destroyed the rest of my computer. AMD™ also pioneered how useless GPGPU is with OpenCL™. Years ago, everyone thought GPGPU, CUDA™, and OpenCL™ were the future. Now, AMD™ has removed those useless features from their GPUs and increased efficiency. Now you can save thousands a year in electricity thanks to AMD™ ensuring that useless features like GPGPU are "optimized" for gamers. It's quite clear that OP's an Nvidia shill trying to convince you to settle on something less than Gaming Evolved™. AMD™ is the only real way to play games. We have seen recently that they offer incredible libraries for software developers like AMD GPUOpen. He is probably too poor to afford the AMD Radeon and can not afford to play any games Gaming Evolved™. Don't be a poor gamer with bad drivers and a huge power bill. Play games with the AMD™ Radeon™: Gaming Evolved™!

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>Inbetween an RX 390 and GTX 970
>VR baseline
>200$, cheaper than a 970

>This is bad

In what fucking world do you guys live in

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>>343227675
>first AMD shills say it'll beat a 980ti
>then a 980
>now finally acting as if people were saying it wouldn't compete with a 970 after it's confirmed it barely competes with a 970, when no one was ever fucking saying that

Wow, congrats. You've got a card that goes toe-to-toe with a gimped 3.5GB card from three years ago, and performs worse than AMD cards from the last gen, while running so hot even Fermi owners are laughing at you. Honestly amazed anyone could be proud of that.

>nvidia will never have a real adversary again
>we are doomed to incremental upgrades forever

grapheme chips save me from this hell

>>343231790
If they can save up $200 in a few months there's nothing stopping them from saving up even longer for an $800 card

>>343233320
>>nvidia will never have a real adversary again
the 290 or whatever it was called was better than the gtx 770
the 390 was better than the 970

idk why you memers don't think the 490 won't be better than the 1070 as well

also, a lot of the rx 480 benchmarks are of the stock reference 480 vs AIB overclocked 970s and overclocked 390s. we're gonna see factory overclocked 480s within the next month that add more than a 6pin connector so we could see a noteworthy performance bump that might put the 480 on top.

>>343232390
Yes finally I'm not the only one that knows this!

>>343230881
Some people pay bills.

>>343227675
>love 144 fps gaming
>seems impossible
It's suffering really

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>>343233694
sure

>>343233630
800$ is a big fucking investment.

Smart people (Unless rich) don't pay above 400$ for a card.

>>343231273
Eeeexept that's not what happened. I just posted a 3rd party bench. That's from PC gamer.

>>343233630
>>343231790
>buying an $800 graphics card so you can play console ports
lmfao

>>343233813
the 90 variant is generally cheap too (compared to nvidia), but much more powerful

>>343231416
How? This is exactly what we expected and asked for for $199

>>343231752
$199 vs $599.

AMD is known for being King of fps per dollar

I can't believe people still support AMD.

>>343232390
Literally this. I maxed out games with a fucking HD 6850 at 60 fps for 4 years.

The 390 is outperforming the 480 because of drivers. They've been optimizing the 290/390 for what? 3 years now? I'm sure the 480 will beat the 390 by 10-15% down the line.

Can't wait to see the 490 that leaked today.

>>343233237
Nvidiot fanboy "DELETE THIS!!!!" World

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>>343234315
>$599
K E K

>>343234616
>Can't wait to see the 490 that leaked today.

About time. Source?

>>343233320
>first AMD shills say it'll beat a 980ti
Bullshit. Absolute bullshit.

>>343233320
>that whole post
>three years ago

Do you really need to make up lies to defend some company?

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>>343234663
I saw it on reddit the 490 showed up on AMD's site and it's coming out before the end of this year.

>>343234639
I'm glad I went with EVGA and got step-up, I got a 1080 superclock on the way, paid $600 for it total, EVGA upgraded me for free because they ran out of normal 1080 ACX3 models

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>get over 9000 fps with mantle-supported total war warhammer
nvidia fags btfo

What's the difference between the 4gb and 8gb RX 480?

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I think this is the most interesting benchmark I've seen. The 480 performing above the 980 and just a few fps shy of the 1070 a significantly more expensive card.

>>343234102
I'd need to get a new CPU to be able to run it. It'll probably bottleneck a 480 anyway. I'd have to build a while new PC and I need to be paying my parents mortgage for them because my dad is an idiot

>>343234961

one has more memory

thats it

theres some stuff about the 4gb having a bit slower memory, but you can just OC it and have the same performance

>>343235452
I know but what good does it do to have more vram?

>>343234961
you can run all the dank 4K-8K res. textures of skyrim modding with an 8GB !

>>343234961
8g going to be new standard I think.

1070 and 1080 have 8g

>>343235123
Zen CPUs are still supposedly arriving later this year, and they could do to Intel what AMD is doing to Nvidia here that is about as fast as their competitor when it comes to legacy stuff, but much faster when it comes to new stuff.

Plus the new socket AM4 motherboards should be cheap like the socket AM1 boards were since the chips are all SOCs requring little in the way of other components. 4 core Zen CPU + Motherboard for $150 might be possible.

>>343235572
Considering most games are approaching 4GB of VRAM minimum and that many upcoming games are hitting 6-7GB of VRAM usage, anyone who buys a 4GB card is fucking stupid.

Even at 1080p. 8GB of VRAM for 1440/4K has been the norm for a while now.

>>343235619
This. I can't see anyone buying below 6GB and not regretting it a year or two down the line.

>>343235849
>Considering most games are approaching 4GB of VRAM minimum
I haven't known a single game to do this yet.

>>343235849
>not regretting it a year or two down the line.
>implying mainstream companies would waste resources creating that many high resolution textures for it to matter, or that you'll ever use >1440p with a midline AMD card

>>343235849
>anyone who buys a 4GB card is fucking stupid.
Anyone except the miners

>>343234985
>Vulkan

Oh wow, really? I'd never have guessed.

What version 480 would be good for a babby's first midrange computer? I really don't think I need an 8gb.
Sapphires any good?

>>343235849
1060 rumors are supposed to be 3g and 6g.

I really wanted a 1060, but not I might just have to get a 1070, because I fear developers are going to want 8vram on everything because all newer cards will have it.

Feel like it will fuck the 1060 right when the 1100 series comes.

At least the 1070 and 1080 should be good for awhile.

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>>343236017
The Division
The Witcher 3
Fallout 4

>>343236029
I did 1440p on a 390 and I got better performance on it than I did with my 980.

>>343231835
they're only overkill for 1080p if your monitor is 60hz

>>343234961

about 4GB

>>343236017
>yet.
Key word.

These new cards are going to change PC games.
PC games are going to become even more shit on older cards.
Late next year is going to suck for 900 series and older.

>>343236229
But those games are shit and infamously unoptimized.

>>343236167
Not only that, but PSNeo and Xbox Scorpio are using 480/1070-eqivalents so I'd imagine the consoles will have tons of VRAM as well

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>>343232775

>>343236361
The Division ran on a $200 AMD card perfectly. It tanked on a $300 Nvidia card.

>>343236331
This. Unless you're on a 980ti or a 390, I can't see people being happy with their hardware config

>>343236152
Even for Nvidia cards Vulkan represents an increase in performance, and the sooner everyone is off DirectX the sooner we can forget that Windows 10 exists.

>>343231604
Why get a 980ti instead of a 1070?
Actually what's the RAM difference there, pricewise they'd be the same, if not more for the 980, but doesn't it have like 6 or 8 GB of vRAM?

>>343232390
>have a 770
DOOM ran great but that seemed to have been an exception and not a rule for me.

>>343236331
>PC games are going to become even more shit on older cards.
>Late next year is going to suck for 900 series and older.

Not for amd anyways, The 390 should age well

>>343236379
PSNeo is supposed to be 8GB too, I doubt Scorpio would surpass that either since both Microsoft and Sony want to keep compatibility with the "old" consoles

>>343233991
>no reply
>DELETE THIS!!!!!

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>>343227675
I'm loving this shitposting.

The card is still only 200 dollars and has a pretty fucking good amount of performance per dollar.

It wasn't made to beat cards in the 300 dollar or more range, the fact that it can even compete with them though is admirable.

>>343236379
They'll be using an AMD supplied SOC, so they won't be 480/1070 equivalent, they'll be CPU limited, and they almost certainly will use a shared memory pool like the current consoles. Try to compare that set up to discrete graphics cards in a PC is always going to fall short regardless of the marketing numbers Microsoft is throwing around.

>>343236687
The Scorpio will definitely be faster than Neo but I don't think it'll have a higher amount of VRAM, that is just asking for trouble.

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>This AMD shill damage control

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>Buys AMD for cheap
>Complains every time a new game comes out that he can't play it

>>343236729

I'm an AMD bros as well. let it go f-am, let it go ;_;

Is the 1070 a wise decision?

>>343236729
I was mocking people who think the 480 is bad, I wanna buy it

>that feel when your card gets old
My 670 has to run Hitman at the lowest settings and a lower resolution...

Although I heard that game is just a shit port all around.

>>343236989
It's pretty much just shitposting. Nobody here sincerely believes that the 480 is bad.

>>343236229

wtf is this

>>343236729
>>343236963
>pretend to be an AMDfag who thinks the benchmarks for the 480 is bad

$0.03 has been transferred to your checking account. Thank you for your continued business with Nvidia.

Fuck this. I'm waiting for EVGA to start churning out some 1070s or for 980s to drop in price.
I have no problem with AMD processors, but this is just incompetent. I wish there were a third party GPU company

>>343237181
Are AMDfags really this disillusion?

>>343237194
It's a 6 year old card beating a $600 card released 3 weeks ago

>>343236980
No. This is pointing to the 490 being a little better for less money. I'd wait.

>>343236729
>>343236989
>>343237181
>>343237210
>AMDfags are such mentally ill drones that they're turning on eachother
This is gold.

>>343237210

that's less that what i get nigger, where' s the $0.02? fuck you

>>343236980
Depends what you have now, what you want to play, and what the rest of your hardware is like. All too often I see people posting specs of their machine and they've got a $300+ i7, a $400+ GPU, and some shitty little 24" 1080@60hz monitor that they could max out with a system 1/3rd the cost.

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>>343237315
That's the thing, will 490 be a $300-$350 tier card or will they just go all out with a $500-600 card under the Vega architecture?

>>343237210
But I didn't say the 480 was bad. I quite clearly said that it was impressive for it's price point.

>>343236992
Welcome to Nvidia. After your card is a year old, all support is cut. I'm maxxing it with my HD 7950, which came out and the same time AND was cheaper.

>>343237217
>Sega comes back as a GPU company

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>>343227675
All you AMD memester poorfags fighting over what budget card is the best while you ache for a 1080 are so cute, just wanted to let you know.

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>>343230803
>Hahaha, here's the 15 game average
As a person that just bought a 1070, saying "hahahaha" just makes you sound retarded.

>>343237458
D-DELETE THIS! Team green will always be the best team! I don't care if the card is obsolete after a year! I will be happy to buy a new one to support the Nvidia master race!!

>>343237548

h-hey! n-not everyone has 1080 screen you know, i-im waiting for 4k.

>>343237181
Nvidia fans are easily the dumbest fanbase in gaming. They ignore straight up asshole moves they make on their own customers, pay almost double for the same performance, and then get their cards gimped after they're a year old while AMDfags get 5 years of support.

>>343234985
Damn, look at the 780 Ti go.

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>>343237548
Lmao it's called a 1080 cuz when you see one you do a 1080 and walk out the door

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>this shitty meme card race just means devs will have even less incentive to optimize their games

>>343237380
Well right now I'm running AMD A10-5800k and a Radeon HD 7700 with 8gb vram, haven't had trouble with games up until the last year and a half. Basically as soon as Witcher 3 came out, just really jew with my money. Every time I see one of these threads I go back to tweaking my future build. Also, I'm running one of those 24 60hz monitors. Not really in a rush to upgrade the monitor, but I do split screen with my 40" 1080@60hz tv which I do game on sometimes.

>>343237657
How much do AMD pay you guys to shit-post on /v/

Since denuvo killed most peoples interest in AAA games a lot of desire to buy high-mid end cards vanished. Makes 480 all the more desireable.

>>343237347
Sorry that was my fault. I misread those posts

>>343237752
>They ignore straight up asshole moves they make on their own customers, pay almost double for the same performance, and then get their cards gimped after they're a year old
You literally just described AMD.
>It's okay when AMD does it

>>343237776
The bottom line is I feel like I'll never upgrade because I can never make a solid decision on cpu/gpu. If I stick with AMD I don't think I'll have to upgrade my motherboard which will save me a little bit, but eh.

>>343237769

DX12 puts all the burden of optimization on the developers

So if a game has shit SLI/Crossfire for example, its the devs fault

>>343233854
Wasn't Gameworks forced to be used by everyone in Project CARS?

>>343237806
Yeah keep convincing yourself of that piratefag

People are totally turned off by AAA gaming because the minority of people who pirate games can't play those games anymore

>>343237548
>buys a 1080
>plays memewatch

>>343237961
Oh boy, we're entering a new age of shit performance.

>>343237752
I don't understand the hardware loyalty that Nvidia fans have. The precedent that budget cards should be dogshit and that good graphics should be expensive shouldn't be applauded and it's great that AMD has done something here.

>>343237447
Absolutely not. Unless they want to do something they've never done before. The $500+ card is gonna be the 490x. The 490 is gonna be about $350 like it always. The "x" is basically the same as Nvidia's "Ti"

>MUH $200 CARD THAT CAN BEAT A 980 AND OC TO A 980ti

Holy fuck, you can't get more btfo

So when's the release date? Soooon?

I just want to play Doom, my HD 7850 chugs at certain parts.

>>343238114
A new age where devs can't blame anyone but themselves for a game running bad, at least.

>>343237961
so in general that means people are less likely to work on their own engines (unless they're 3D programmerphiles) and continue supporting the likes of Unreal/Cryengine/etc

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>>343238172
But anon, a 390 does that right now. Imagine a couple months down the line once the drivers are more matured

>>343238195
It's now. Get your ass on Newegg and buy it.

>>343237786
>facts
"SHILLS! SHILLS ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE!"

>>343236980
Wise if you can get it at MSRP of $379, not $100 exta

>>343238247
Oh damn, thanks anon. I'm hype as fuck.

>>343238017
Just check steamspy, theres plenty of game series where a pirateable game sold millions while denuvo ones hang around 500-800k.

>>343238172
The 1080 was advertised to be future proof and to be able to run all games at max settings at least 200 FPS. Yet benchmarks show that it struggles to even get close to 200 FPS in the Witcher 3

L O L

>>343238201
When did that ever stop them?

>>343237882
Give me some examples. My 6850, which is from 2010 has a new driver for me to download right now. What asshole moves have they made?

>>343237930
Actually you probably will. Depending on what motherboard you have you'll have some cheap upgrade options in the form of the Athlon X4 chips, but any of the new Zen chips will be using a new motherboard. The good news is that those boards should be cheap since Zen parts are basically systems-on-chip meaning that the board doesn't need to include a lot of expensive additional components.

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>>343238318
So Doom 3, a game that's been out since 2003 and Tomb Raider (a humble bundle game twice over, plus $3.99 sales) is doing better than Doom and Rise of the Tomb Raider which are less than a year old and sell for $35-$60? I am truly shocked.

>>343237548
Epic. Our card two compete with is is gonna be better and at least $150 cheaper. Again.

>>343238391
My favorite was when they released driver updates that overheated and destroyed your cards, and you faggots still defended it simply saying "Just don't update :^)"

>>343238150
AMD may be abandoning the 'x' marker for higher end parts with this line since all the cards are now 'RX'

>>343238367
Yeah nice facts mate. But everyday on here and /g/ there were threads about this thing matching the 980 and possibly going further

>>343238554

Nvidia just did that a few months ago senpai

>>343238636
But it's only okay when AMD does it.

>>343238503
They were forced to make a demo of D44M.

>>343237564
>I expect a card that's half the price of mine and released in the same time window to go toe to toe with it!

Don't worry. I'll be laughing at you again when the 490 comes out and beats the 1070 while you try to wipe the tears off your face long enough to find one Gameworks game that your card get 2 more FPS in and cling to it.

>>343238503
Important to note that Doom 3 and Tomb Raider are multiplatform, while new 'Doom' and Rise are Windows-only. That's going to cost them significant numbers of people who are willing and able to spend money on games.

>>343238753
That had more to do with the beta/pre-release footage being slow as shit.

Whats the fps on 1600x900?

>>343238625
/g/ is full of fucking retards then and ignored everything that AMD said.

I never understood why people take reference benchmarks seriously.
Non-reference are the real deciders.

>>343238172
Except we literally JUST demonstrated that to be true. Did you not look at the OP image or have you managed to gaslight yourself?

>$200 VR-ready mid-tier GPU beating the 970 and even the 980 in a few games
>HURR AMD IS FINISHED LMAO CAN'T COMPETE WITH THE 1080 #AMDEAD
niggers this isn't even their flagship card for this gpu generation
the only way nvidia could compete with what they've likely got in store is through a potential 1080 Ti

>>343238912
200 FPS for that CRT you're rockin'

>>343238708

No its not

where do you think the AMD has bad drivers meme comes from

>>343238505
>being this delusional

>>343238201
Theyll blame it on something else and fanboys will defend them

>>343238391
It is sort of rough on Linux for owners of 6000 series cards since most of them didn't really have the hardware to support OpenGL 4.x requiring driver hacks in the old shitty code to accomplish it and AMD has recently dumped that code in favor of a new nicer codebase which is GCN-only.

Still if you run Linux there's now basically no reason to not buy a GCN card since the open drivers can be some of the highest performing drivers on any platform.

>>343239127
>No its not
Well all the AMDrones defended it, and still do.

>>343237752

i'll fight you irl. where you at?

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>>343234063
>only console ports
>no graphically demanding exclusives
>the ones that are objectively shit games
>zero (0) Japanese games, barring ports of games older than most mustards
>many pubs are slowly abandoning PC because its unprofitable
>the GPU industry lives exclusively off poorly optimized console ports

>you didn't fall for the PC scam

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>>343239214
What world do you live in where Crimson is bad? I have a 980 and I wish I could get an Nvidia card with Crimson until AMD gets a 1080 competitor.

>>343239359
Away with you weeb faggot, of course you'd say "it's fucking nothing" when all you play is AAA/Japanese dogshit

>>343239273
I'm not the same guy but wanting to fight someone over video cards? Are you really that fucking stupid?

>>343239603
it was obviously a joke you autist.

>>343239603

pussy

>>343239538
The fact that you're on this website automatically makes you a weeb faggot. Welcome to the club cunt.

>>343239052
Hahaha sure m8

>>343230803

>>343239603
>AMDrones are all talk and no bite

>>343231835
daily reminder that 60 fps is a meme and is barely playable. 80 fps is where the game actually gets smooth. 100 fps is ideal

>>343239693
I really hope so

>>343239752
Actually no, the only anime I've watched and enjoyed was Ruroni Kenshin. I've avoided weeb culture almost entirely.

>>343239756
DELETE THIS
BASED AMD CAN DO NO WRONG

>>343239797

this is fucking stupid

>60 fps is barely playable

jfc. please flag this as a troll post everyone

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>>343239797
>increments of 20Hz instead of 30

>>343239854
If you've watched an anime you are a weeb. There's no way around it.

One of us.

>>343238761
Has absolutely nothing to do with going "hahahaha" like a sperg.

>>343240076
I watched like 5 episodes as a kid

I hope you have stocks and money invested in this shit to warrant being so militant over graphics cards companies.

Go form a gang and be real men and deal drugs. You don't know what being a pussy really is until you are really afraid of bullets.

I admit I'm a pussy. Getting shot and breaking bones is horrendously painful. You realize you don't even know pain until you take a bullet. Then you pussy up real fucking fast

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>>343239950

>>343240194
So you're a lifelong weeaboo. That's not any better.

>>343231683
I live off just under $1200 a month, true poorfag and will be getting the 480 8GB.

Rent+internet+electricity hits me at $600, phone bill hits me at $55, dental insurance is $30.

Good public transport,$30 for a month pass.

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>want to buy rx480
>playing Oddboxx, Overwatch, VTMB and Dota 2 only
>already played Witcher 3
>Dark Souls 3 ran just fine
My GTX760 has gotten old but i doubt 10 year old games require a rx480. I suppose i'll wait for the aftermarket cooled one

>>343240225

jfc are you having a breakdown anon? don't spill tears

>>343233813
Fucking this.

I have literally never had an issue running games with the X60's series of Nvidia cards, and for a few years after each release. And even beyond that, turning down some AA or sacrificing a few shadows here and there, everything runs fine. The people who buy high end cards always seem to bitch about the next generation not being soon enough, and upgrade each gen or every other. They're never satisfied.

>>343237217
The best option at the moment would be PowerVR, but they're too busy printing money on mobile chips to care.

When the fuck are non-founder editions of GTX 1070 and 1080 are going to be available?

>>343240529
Completely the opposite actually. You guys are giving me flashbacks to days I want to forget

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>>343240732
They're already available and fucking sweet

>>343240812

its your fault for being a gangbanger. didn't scarface teach you not to get involved with drugs?

>>343240572
They chase the dragon man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBVkk5rW0lw

>>343240861
>that temp

time to go Nvidia I guess

>>343240898
Desperation does crazy things to people. Being actually homeless or in prison with no support system brings monsters out of people. You either fight or die. There is no alternative

>>343233854
Project Cars is the game that uses Nvidia gameworks the most, so good job cherry picking.

>>343241191

i feel you brah. i was homeless for a month in new york. worst time of my life. the fucking cold and hunger made me want to do things i think i wasn't capable of. but yeah i learned one thing there its still a bad decision to get involved with drugs

>>343232310
>I have a 390
I feel comfy knowing I'm not gonna upgrade for another 4 years or so.

So glad I didn't get cucked into gaming in the slums

>>343239797
No monitors play in 80

>>343237762
It's called 1080 because its the resolution you use on the card.

waiting for 3rd party cooler should I get a 4GB or 8GB

>>343242412
asking myself the same question, kinda reasoned that 8GB was worth the $30 or $40 more

>>343242412
what resolution do you usually play at?

is this really the life of pckek? i mean seriously? you just wait for one of your devices (mainly your video card) to get outdated and you buy a more expensive shit? what the fuck? why not just buy a console hassle free? all of the best games are in the ps4 anyway ™

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>$200 card released two years after $300 card has slightly improved performance

whoa

>>343242571
is this really the life of car buyer? i mean seriously? you just wait for one of your cars (mainly your car you own now) to get outdated and you buy a more expensive car? what the fuck? why not just buy a beat up shitbox for 3k off craigslist? all of the best shit is in my 1996 nissan altima

>>343242602
>a $379 card released a year after a $1000 card has massively improved performance

i know. based fucking nvidia. go 1070 or go home.

>>343242723

>1996 nissan altima

i bought a 2002 prius you wasted your purchase

this thread need more charts

>>343242883
I bought a 2015 civic si, why don't you stop being poor faggot

>>343227675
Even if its only 970 tier, for a new card that could be improved through drivers, that has 4.5 more gb ram than the 970 and costs 230 bucks its not bad at all.

Nvidiots are in full damage control today. The performance is right where people expected it to be. Between 970 and 980.

>>343242519
1080 but to set high on current games to medium for the next 4-5 years

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>>343227675
>he fell for the AMD meme

>>343230803
I only have 1080p monitors
This card is a Godsend.

thats pretty insane performance for the money, holy shit.

i hope AMD fucking surges after this. they deserve it.

>>343243224
Yes Pajeet

>buying a value card

All these benchmarks prove that AMD is releasing garbage that's barely competitive with its own last gen of cards.

The 1070 will cost less than $400, and it will last much longer than some trash card that's half the price.

AMDfags, when will they learn?

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>>343243109

>he fell for the NVIDIA meme

>>343243308
>The 1070 will cost less than $400, and it will last much longer than some trash card that's half the price.
thats still double the price

AMD hasn't even released their 490 or 490x

but I already got a 380 for $200 on Christmas

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>>343242602
>significantly faster at 1440p
>much faster with dx12
>double the Vram
>a monster in CF
>only $200 at launch compared to the once $350 970

Yeah only a slight improvement
AMD has slain Nvidia in the most important market, the midrange. The 970 meme card is now useless. The 1060 won't have anything on the 480. This is the turning point, the point where AMD begins to overtake the market.

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I still see no reason to upgrade.

>>343230803
>tfw paid 350 for a 970 like 3 months ago

JUST JUST JUST

>>343243430
>what is real value

The rx 480 is literal bargain bin trash that will barely live out its own generation.

You can expect the prices of the 490 and 490x to be right up there with the 1070 and the 1080; and if AMD keeps true to its track record, they'll still be outperformed by nvidia; so they'll knock $100 off the price and tell you that it's a value card.

It better fucking beat 970 in some games if it's drawing almost as much power as 1080, you fucking imbecile.

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>237 / 37 / 83

>>343243695
two 480's will easily out perform a 400 dollar 1070

>>343229820
No, a couple cherrypicked reviews that look extremely suspect have "power consumption issues"

People are already calling them out on it because the card shouldn't even be able to physically draw the amount of power they're claiming it is.

>>343238503
who 750ti here

>>343243471
>dx12 will fix it
>drivers will fix it
>crossfire will fix it

Last time I heard this, AMD was trying to get me to buy the 390 and the Fury X.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozATbV11rBA

>480 not doing much better than the 3.5gb meme card

it's over AMD are finished

>>343243471
the 970 is cheaper everywhere except america.

also
>double the Vram
>only $200 at launch

the $200 one has 4gb of vram. literally the same as the 970 or .5gb more of full speed gddr5 if you want to be picky.

>>343243715

AMD drains more power in general because of GPGPU features. Which is the reason they're ahead in DX12 and the card of choice for mining buttcoins

>>343243802
No, they won't. They'll struggle to match it, and they'll run hotter and louder under the load. It's a trash gpu.

>>343243595
for what purpose have you done this for, mane?

>>343244037
I Finished my year and started playing on PC again, but hardware was wayy outdated

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>>343237548
>>343237762
>>343242004
It's called a 1080 because that's how much it costs.

>>343231752
$230 for RX480
$1200+ for GTX 1080

These are the ACTUAL prices you can buy them for and actually receive the card within that week.

Nvidia barely made any 1080's, they can't meet market demand and scalpers have bought most of the 1080 cards up to resell at much higher prices as a result. You can buy it at MSRP, but you'll have to wait several weeks, if not months, to actually get the card.

And two RX480's > 1 GTX 1080 for less than half the price.

AMD has btfo nvidia

>>343243960
too bad I don't give af about dx12 because I don't want to run a os that give lea free hands to put a keylogger on my pc without a search warrant

nvdiot BTFO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMHJhP7Y7oM

>>343244339
>crossfire

into the trash

>>343243895
But dx12 performance has already been proven. It's also been proven Nvidia gimps their aging cards with bad driver support.

For future proofing the 480 is king.

>>343244242
AmDon't costs 280-320 euros where I live
1080 costs 850

Sure 2x 480 is better on paper, but on real life the crossfire / sli / whatever 2x setup is much worse for gaming.

>>343244551
>For future proofing the 480 is king
>for future proofing, a card that barely beats a gtx970 is king

You're fucking retarded.

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>>343244339
>cf

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>>343244495
>setting fire to trash

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>>343244339
jesus. not only is xfire shit in general but look are those power consumption figures.

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FROM NOW ON YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO POST ASHES OF SINGULARITY BENCHMARKS

>>343244291

its the same shit with vulkan btw

dx11 is on its way out

https://youtu.be/GMHJhP7Y7oM?t=53

holy shit guys

that's not reflection

that's smoke!

>>343244994
>$240 card that beats the 970 and manages solid results at 1440p can be trusted to Crossfire on a decent 550w PSU without issue

I'm not seeing a problem here.

>>343242412
I'm iffy on which version myself

The way I'm starting to look at it though: A 480 with 8GB of VRAM is basically meant to be future proof for new games over the next year or two, but it won't be able to run those new games at 1080p 144fps anyways.

I think if you need a card to cover the next 2 years at medium settings, you'll want a 480 with 4GB VRAM. If you want the next 2-4 years on high instead, you'll probably want to grab a 490 with 8GB VRAM, when it launches later this year.

>>343245261
by the time vulkan is important (3-4) there will be other worries , 480 will not be competant enough in 1.5 year to come when we move to more demanding games now that consoles are picking some pace / pc will get to enjoy those horrible ports again and that's where 480 will bottleneck

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>Buy hardware that meets my needs
>Meanwhile autists on /v/ are taking sides about which piece of metal is better

never change

>>343245336
>power consumption 437 watts
>safe to run on a 550 watt psu

AMDfags really are fucking retarded.

>>343244574
It's not "better on paper" idiot, it's getting that performance in actual games

>>343245336
>omg! polaris
>look at muh efficiency

when everyone finds out its shit and inferior to 2 year old nvidia card

>b-but just xfire it
>p-power consumption d-doesn't matter anyway

kys

>>343245562
I rather pay 200 extra than have headache and insane power consumption of 2x card setup. 2x setup does really bad stutter and any fps game becomes instantly unplayable. There's reason why many recommend 2x only for work and for gaming 1 card is always better

>>343245494

fuck you. if you're not with us you're against us

>>343243308
>less than $400
c'mon anon you know that's bullshit

>>343245497

You fucking retard. That's the ENTIRE system draw.

>>343245494
It's actually mostly plastic and fiberglass.

>cpu: Core i5-3450
>vga: R9 280x
>ram: 16GB

hmm i think i should upgrade my old ass cpu first...and wait for 480x i guess

>>343245408
Holy shit you retards are dumb. You realize just about every graphically intensive game from this point on will use DX12 or Vulkan right?

>>343246162
You must be pretty braindead if you think nvidia can't handle vulkan

1060 or 480?

>>343245497
It's 235 watts including everything else, adding another 480 would result in about 385 watts total, which is COMPLETELY ok for a decent 550w PSU

>>343245398
I think the 8GB version is mainly for ppl who want to cf them, since fuck only having 4GB in that scenario

>>343246230
AMD designed vulkan

They'll do better on it than nvidia will.

Can't wait for all the butthurt nvidiots complaining that vulkan games are unfair comparisons after all these years of them giving gameworks a pass.

>>343246093
>i5-3450
Not exactly a bad CPU but yeah, it would bottleneck a 480 on most recent games

>>343236992
>>343237458
I have a GTX 670 too and my performance has been kinda shit for a while

how much truth is there to this support cut meme?

>>343246351
Besides, like I fucking said, today's GPU won't be useful with vulkan. You're really delusional if you think RX480 will have any say to Xbox Neo and PS4k games on PC

Wonder if I would bottleneck. I have an I5-4430 and am looking into the 8gb 480

>>343233854
ahaha toms shillware

>>343246389
recommended i5 for 480 or 480x?

or should i go with i7?

>>343234985
>R7 435
>R5 435
Now I'm not going to pretend I completely understand their naming conventions, but that doesn't seem right.

>>343234985
DELET THIS

>>343246730
>haha shills

Everyone's a fucking shill because they're all coming out with the same results

>>343246743
Hyper threading is becoming increasingly popular with many useful apps like photoediting, video editing and music production. I don't know about games, but I think chrome and browsers benefit from it too? So on that basis, i7 .. maybe a 6 core if you have the money?? I got myself a 5820 recently, upgraded from 2600K. I think they're coming with new 6800 and the like which should be even better.

More cores + Ht the merrier

If I were to upgrade this year id still get a 1070 Because I play at 1440p now.

>>343246463
AMD cards usually comes with more raw power than Nivida's equivalents, so we see a lot of driver optimization later in their cicles

>>343246743
A 6600K would do the trick, if you pair it with a decent motherboard for overclocking

>>343246743
Get the i5 4690k and you're set for the next couple years no problem. Or if you can find a good deal for it/willing to splerg a little bit the 6600k, but unless you stream, or upload videos or do actual work on your computer an i7 is literally pouring money down the drain

why are there so many graphs posted in here? can we have one definitive benchmark we can refer to like Ashes of Singularity Benchmark?

thanks

>>343227675
I bought a 1070 and 144Hz monitor
What game should i be playing?
Thinking of trying batman.
Should i start with arkham asylum?
Maybe i should try dishonored too, since 2 is coming out~

>>343247014
I think a skylake would be a better choice nowadays, specially if he wants to upgrade further on

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>>343247080
>can we have one definitive benchmark we can refer to like Ashes of Singularity Benchmark

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>>343234639

SUICIDE WATCH

W
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>>343227675
From what we know the 1060 is probably going to be shit but I'm still going to wait and see.

I miss the days when the x60 cards were monsters for their price range.

>>343247080
>Ashes of Singularity Benchmark
get the fuck out faggot

>>343246948
Tom's hardware has actually been known to doctor their benchmark results. What are you even talking about

>>343234874
I couldn't give rats ass about 490. Despite what some uninformed virgins think (no not /v/ but virgins), neither 490 nor 1080 Ti will sport HBM2. They have different cards / architectures for that. For AMD it's Vega, nor PoorAlis.

>>343245497
Total system draw, chimpdick.

>>343245618
It's a card that beats the 970 and can handle 1440p by itself being put in CFX for a total system draw of less than 450w. No one said it was this amazing victory that Nvidia can't compete with or that multi-GPU is even a good idea, but trying to point at that as a negative exposes you as an empty-headed shill with a small penis and no job.

>purposely waiting to buy a cuck tier poorfag card

literally fuck off with this shit, the 1080 is the most powerful card literally ever made, and it would be a mistake not to buy it. Thanks to BASED Nvidia, you can get an unmatched power from a single card that outperforms any shit tier AMDrone cuck card, especially the fucking firehouse fury, and there's literally no excuse for not buying a superior Nvidia card. Also any jelly AMDrone cuck that tries to rebute this needs to fuck off, one: there's no argument for superiority, two: AYYMD opinion dis""Carded""... Also don't expect anything near as good from AMDrone, the 490x? more like the 490nothankyou

>inb4 muh powerdraw
>inb4 muh temps
>inb4 muh powerdraw

fuck off, there is nothing from with a 450 watt TPD, and 100C is a temp the card was tested to run at, so it literally doesn't fucking matter.

>>343247183
$0.04 has been deposited to your Bitcoin wallet.

Thanks,

Intel Corporation

>>343227675
>the division

top fucking kek.

i wonder how it does in witchrar

>>343243308
>The 1070 will cost less than $400
I would love to go where you live. The founders edition costs 500 dollars in my area without tax

But actually, where can you find a deal like that? I've been looking for a 1070 for the past week and I cant find one that isnt 200 dollars overpriced

>>343247652
Yeah! I will always buy Nvidia™ because I only play games The Way It's Meant to be Played™!

>>343247707
hey that's pretty good, my gtx 670 is not even on that list

>>343247659
>recommending dead end sockets with no upgrade path

The Intel shill is you, my man. You're the one who wants him to buy 2 Intel motherboards instead of 1.

500,000,000 Rupees (0.00 USD) have been deposited to your account by Intel® corporation.

My 390 runs everything at top levels, I don't understand why cardbros have to jump on shit as soon as it hits the streets so Nvidia can rook you out of more money because of the hype.

>>343247647
>being this mad
>"empty-headed shill with a small penis and no job."
>projecting his life on to other people

you got btfo and you're coming back with the same retarded arguments

stay mad

:^)

Look I'd like to buy into this utopist idea that RX480 will be good and will get better drivers down the line, but what about the fact that AMD fucking lied to consumers about the power consumption? They got it "off the ballpark" by couple of stadiums length, they were hyping "oh buy a single RX480 should be twice as efficient as 1080" when in reality they fucking consume same amount of power. Do you think I want to kill my computer / mobo? Because buying AMD seems to be doing that. Where MSI is providing 6 + 8 pin for their GTX 1070, AMD is providing a single 6 pin............

And lets not forget that I'd have very big buyers remorse if the late year's Vega ends up btfoing RX480 like a sweet little taiwanese shemale

So right now for $250 do I buy a RX 480 or a GTX 970?

>480 delivers 390 power for $200
"Haha fucking AMD wow 2 years late, GTX 970 FTW Mountain Dew!"

>1060 delivers 970 performance for $250, after Nvidia gimps the 970
"Wow, thanks Nvidia! I only needed 3GB of VRAM anyway. Oh, 2.5? That's fine for 1080p anyway!"

Why are Nvidiots so dumb?

>>343247851
>tfw I have a 3570k so I can't upgrade without upgrading my motherboard

I'm just gonna wait for cannonlake or whatever it is that's supposed to come after kaby lake

>>343247183
Well depends on if he wants to spend the extra on replacing his ram with ddr4 as well as the new mobo needed, thus its a more demanding upgrade and not for everyone

https://youtu.be/PJ5wYVu-tM8?t=463 this guy got it all wrong, thanks to how much lying AMD did.

>>343248159
Wait for custom 480s and get one

>>343248159
You're getting 4.5gb more VRAM with the 480 and AMD won't gimp it moving forward.

>>343248229
Ram is like 150 or 200 i think, ddr4 is not that expensive. i got 32gb for relatively cheap, was looking for 64 but they were out

>>343248159
Just wait for a not-reference card then compare prices and performance

>>343247743
The founders edition was always stated to have a higher price, I suspect he's talking about the non-reference cards that'll be released down the line.

I'm currently wondering if it's worth upgrading from my 760 to one of the 1070s in the next month or so, or if I should hang on and see what's up with Vega.

>>343227675
>gtx960 doesn't even get 40fps on min settings fire the division
Uh... this is a lie...

I need to upgrade my 760

Is this 'RX 480' meme card worth buying or not? it sounds like it's a decent card for a good price

Getting a 1080 or 1070 is tempting but realistically I don't think I need that much power.

If I wanted to play Witcher 3 with a 480, what are the max settings I could theoretically run with it?

GET FUCKING BTFO'D AMDRONES
http://www.infinitelooper.com/?v=PJ5wYVu-tM8#/514;525
http://www.infinitelooper.com/?v=PJ5wYVu-tM8#/514;525
http://www.infinitelooper.com/?v=PJ5wYVu-tM8#/514;525
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how can anyone defend this
>3.5gb card beating 8gb card at 1440p

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>open thread
>scroll through
>mfw the 480 is getting slated hard and amd shills can't defend it because they know it's hot garbage
>mfw they've resorted to shitflinging and insults

>>343248164
>>343248373
post proof that nvidia gimps their old cards

>>343248392
the problem isn't how much it is, but rather the fact that you need to buy it at all, when you could just keep the ram you have

THESE TWO FUCKING CARDS ARE IN DIFFERENT POWER AND PERFORMANCE CLASSES
THESE TWO FUCKING CARDS ARE IN DIFFERENT POWER AND PERFORMANCE CLASSES
THESE TWO FUCKING CARDS ARE IN DIFFERENT POWER AND PERFORMANCE CLASSES
THESE TWO FUCKING CARDS ARE IN DIFFERENT POWER AND PERFORMANCE CLASSES

Why? Because 1070 takes less power than RX480, which is closer to 1080

THAT GUY FUCKING SHILLED AMD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ5wYVu-tM8

SOMEBODY KILL THIS GUY

>>343248010
>you're coming back with the same retarded arguments
Because I've yet to be countered on them. I repeat them to remind you of them and give you another opportunity to tell me why I'm wrong, but so far all you've done is attack a position that no one put forward and pretend that you're winning. So keeping in mind again that everyone knows SLI/Crossfire is a stupid idea and no one is supporting it, once again:

>single GPU is cheaper and better than current most popular GPU, and can handle 1440p
>total system draw with two of these new GPUs can be managed by a 550w PSU

Tell me why this would be considered a bad or unacceptable level of power draw.

>>343247014
>>343247006

i just checked both cpu prices and both prices are really close, like only 1$ difference lol

one is skylake arch and one is devil's canyon arch

never heard of devil's canyon arch but it seems 4690k has lower power consumption

>>343248229
He'll need a new mobo for a haswell too, so is better change for the newest socket anyway

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>>343248784
The fact that the 970 has slipped against both the 290x and the 390 is proof enough.

Whether it's "gimping" or just Nvidia refusing to optimize drivers for older cards, the result is the same.

2 years from now a comparable AMD card will wipe its ass with the 970, especially in DX12 performance.

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>>343248615
you get a 970 which can actually 20% OC

NVIDIA FOR LIFE . AMD FAGGOTS ON SUICIDE ALERT

>>343248205
I still have an i5 4670K, but since the 4690K was only an incremental bump on that, and the 6600K only a small boost from there, I'm not really looking to do something where I'd need to buy a new CPU, mobo and RAM all at once.

I suppose the pretty anemic growth of CPU power for the last few years makes deciding what component to upgrade more straightforward at least.

>>343249159
reminder that Witcher 3 uses nvidia jewworks. It's a shitty game to use for comparison since it fucks with amd's benchmarks.

>>343249482
if all the good games use jewworks, then what is the point of getting AMD?

>>343249219
Look , if you're only doing gaming, then sure you won't appreciate i7 and HT has to offer. But if you do even a little bit of other with computer than gaming, say multitasking / browsing on the internet, HT is already good, 6 core even better.

>>343249482
> No Hairworks
Hmmmmm

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>>343249159
>380 outperforming 380X

>>343248953
>single GPU is cheaper and better than current most popular GPU, and can handle 1440p

nope. 970 is significantly cheaper across europe right now with 480's being over 300 euro in many places. also a 970 can handle 1440p too, and many benchmarks show it can handle it better. even a 390 is cheaper in many places in europe and handles 1440p better than both because of its wider memory bus.

>total system draw with two of these new GPUs can be managed by a 550w PSU

a 970 will also use a similar level of power in sli but will be cheaper, so yes it's not bad. the 970 has exceptional power consumption. that still doesn't make it good just because of power draw

power draw =/= good sli/cf gaming experience

amd shill damage control incoming.

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>>343249159
Most of the benchmarks you see are already against OCed 970s to begin with.

Almost none of these tech sites even have access to a stock 970 anymore.