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>#FE getting positive reviews left and right Unsurprisin

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>#FE getting positive reviews left and right

Unsurprisingly, /v/ was wrong once again.

http://opencritic.com/game/2399/tokyo-mirage-sessions-fe
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I knew it was a good game
But unfortunately Nintendo of America butchered it
Don't support their censorship, but it used or pirate
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>>342352787
Can I play this without playing the other games?
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>>342352787
NO YOU AREN'T WRONG!! ITS CENSOR MAKING THE GAME TOTAL SHIT YOU STUPID SJW!!!
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>>342352787
It's an Atlus game.

The only bad Atlus game is that P4 Dancing spin off. Of course the one where they play to their strengths with style, dungeon crawling, and JRPG battle systems is going to be good
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What if it's a bad game AND censored? Like Star Ocean 5? That game seems to be well liked on here
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>>342352787
>It's a "Reviews are good when it supports my opinion episode"
Fuck off nintendrone.
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>the tears when it bombed in Japan are about to happen again
Can't wait to see shitters get BTFO once more. Damn I love not liking bad games.
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>>342352931
Yes. Best you'll be missing are number of winks to FE.
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>>342352787
>http://opencritic.com/game/2399/tokyo-mirage-sessions-fe

/v/'s just salty over the game not being a true crossover of the two franchises (which is fine admittedly). I just wonder why most here gotta hold a grudge. The game's basically its own IP and takes loose inspiration from the two franchises, Treat it as its own thing.

The censorship salt I agree with though.

Game on its own is fine, if not great.
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Still not getting it. The artstyle makes me wanna end my life.
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>tfw only buying it for best boy and best girl
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>>342353129
Literally the only reason its hated is its not the true crossover SMT fans were wanking themselves to for 2 years
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>>342353162
What's stopping you?
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>>342352891

This.
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BUT THEY CENSORED MY WAIFU! ITS NOT FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIR!
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>>342353252
I wanna see what the NX is
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Anyone got an early copy?

I just want to know if you can adjust the volume of the OST and VA
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>>342352787
>#FE getting positive reviews left and right
>http://opencritic.com/game/2399/tokyo-mirage-sessions-fe
>Three reviews
>Two from Nintendo shill sites
>The other one is 74
Oy vey, you're going all out here.

Call me when you actually have something to show, or even better, when the game doesnt sell like shit protip:it will sell like shit, just as it did in Nippon
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The critics are always right.
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I was cautious about it, but when they played it at E3 it actually looked pretty fun, I'll be getting it at some point.
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>>342353394
>saying Nippon unironically

Get the fuck out of here.
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>>342353394
>muh sales
Why does sales influence the quality of the game? Bloodborne was a great game that sold like shit
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>>342352787
Isnt this game censored tho?
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>>342353526
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/ps4s-bloodborne-sells-2-million/1100-6430572/

Yeah, BB really bombed.
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>>342353484
It probably wasn't intentional but his face is such a "fucking kill me" right now, listening to that girl talk about her waifu
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>>342353484
>TikiIsMyWaifu

No she's mine
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>>342352787
It's basically another persona game. Of course it does well.
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Game will sell like shit, obviously. And NoA is still a bastard.

But, contrary to my early opinion, the game looks pretty fun. I will be buying at some point.
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>>342353582
And #FE will also sell 2 million, what's your point?
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>>342353582
40 million install base, no games, and BB can't even manage a 10% attach rate. Thats a comparative bomb, yes.
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>>342353687
You're absolutely retarded.
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>>342353682
Anon........
I'm buying this day one, but no way this game hits 2mil
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5
4
3
2
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Operation Kowashitai is a go
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>>342353682
Jesus fuck you fags are delusional. This game will be lucky to top 100k.
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>>342353687
That's not how it works you fucking retard
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>>342353769
>>342353721

>attach rates don't matter!
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>>342353682

It won't even break 100k

How the fuck do you bomb harder then TW101?
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>>342353687
BB on any other platform would've sold as much, it didnt bomb, casuals just dont like action horror games that are difficult. It also surpassed 3 mil ages ago and is probably sitting at around 5, for a new ip it's done well and its an excellent game.

>bayonetta 2 only sold 200k units in NA
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>>342353749
I've bought the game but YOU need to get out.
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>>342353749
Kill yourself you false flagging nigger
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>>342353752
>>342353812
It will break it. The game was already a resounding success in Japan. Accept it, haters.
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You guys remember that fucking abysmal "/v/ sings [song from #FE]" thing?

Someone post it. I need a good laugh
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>>342353582
>bloodborne-sells-2-million
>achievement for end boss is like 2% world wide
holy fuck
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>>342352787
Everyone was bitching about the censorship you idiot.
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>>342353582
Im absolutelly positive they could have sold 4 mi. All they had to do was add an easy mode.
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>>342353962
Except it bombed in Japan.
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>>342353962
>Hasn't even broke 30k yet
>a success
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>supporting censorship

i'll wait to pirate it thanks
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It's almost like people were hating a game solely because a 1 minute music video or something.

It should be no surprise when professional reviewers sit down with the game they see how wonderful it really is.
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>>342353962
>that unmitigated delusion
At this point all i feel for you is pity.
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>>342353024
>SO5
>bad

No one said it's bad, just disappointed at the short length of the game.
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>>342352787
missing the point. Id gladly play it. It is SMT with Idol shit, whats not to like? It is the butchered localisation why I won't play it.
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>>342354062
Except it did not. 90k x 60 they already made 5 million dollars. Plus the game is launching in America+europe+Asia+Africa+Mexico too soo... it will sell millions.
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>Envelopes
>A spelling mistake this early
Shiggy diggy digeriedoo!
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I don't want to play it because the setting and tone completely push me away. I really enjoyed the darker tone of the SMT games; I enjoyed the lighter tone of Persona 3 where both you and other people open up to one another to make life's journey worth it. I even enjoyed Persona 4's setting, even though it was mostly otaku wish fulfillment pandering where you're the coolest guy on the planet who can do no wrong. I also enjoyed the earlier FE games before Awakening, especially PoR and RD.

This game is about a group of idols using the power of song, dance, and friendship to stop the bad guys. Like, the main character literally says "We'll show them through the power of friendship!" in one of the trailers.
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>>342354152

Are you the same guy running that autistic twitter? Be honest.

Do you make the near daily "Why haven't you pre-ordered cuntfart's gam?" threads?
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>>342354195
Literally every thread about it devolves in to a hate thread due to several issues in the game. Are you even paying attention?
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>>342353682
>being this delusional
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>>342352787
censored games always get good reviews. How else will they push their agendas.
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>Inb4 NicheGamer gets their panties in a twist and gives it a 3/10 because MUH CENSORSHIP like they did to Fire Emblem Fates
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>>342352787
Reviewers don't care about censorship.
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Nice try shill
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>>342354240
Amazing QC
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>>342354231
>90k

LOL AS IF. More like 35k
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>>342354231
>""""making"""" 100% of the retail market price
You are literally and unironically a Nintenkiddy aren't you. How fucking old are you child?
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>>342354240

Thats the correct use.
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>>342353024
SO5 wasn't even censored for its stateside release you cockmongler
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>>342354332
>Reviewers don't care about censorship.

Nor should they, since it doesn't measure the quality of a game.
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>>342354380
It's "envelops", dumbfuck
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>>342353049
I'm a diehard Nintendrone and I think this game looks like dick.

Nothing like SMT or Fire Emblem.
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>>342354195
Except SO5 is heavily criticized with many flaws that are steps back from previous games.
I know people like to shitpost #FE using SO5, but both games are pretty bad.
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>>342354380
t. ESL

The actual verb is envelop, envelops in the third person.
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>>342354380
Nope, the word they were looking for is "Envelops"
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Patched ROM when?
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>>342354240
That's fucking retarded. Hey Treehouse, hire like half of /v/ because we're way better at your jobs.
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Someone post the vagina bones censorship picture.
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>>342354537
>this game sucks
>when can I pirate it?
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>>342352787
Its still censored so who fucking cares.
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>>342354329
>caring about cripplechan's pet vidya site
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I hope it goes on sale someday. I'd like to try it.
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>>342354578
Stupid nigger no one wants to support censorship even if the game is great
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>>342354353
Nintendo has been censoring shit since the 90's. I still don't get why people are surprised by this.
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>>342354301
>>342354509
The threads I have followed have not said anything else that's bad about SO5 other than the limited budget and shortness of the game. That alone doesn't make the game bad in my eyes, but it does keep me from paying anything else but a bargain bin price. If there's something else that's bad about the game I'd be curious to know what.
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>>342354590
>wedding dress censored
>nintenigger will defend this
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There a way to get the Jap version and just put the English words on it, right? As far as I know, the only thing translated was dialogue and menus, so it shouldn't be that big of an issue to do, right?
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>>342353129
>>342353195
>/v/'s just salty over the game not being a true crossover
>Literally the only reason its hated is its not the true crossover
Not true. You're both forgetting exactly how cancerous and distasteful the Pop Idol themes are.

I'd give it a chance without hesitation if it wasn't for that bullshit. Anyways, most of those positive reviews are from degenerate weebs and or Nintendo centric websites who can't be trusted to be unbiased. There's no way this piece of shit is redeemable in any way. Yes I hate idols that fucking much
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I don't remember /v/ calling it a bad game.

People were "merely" angry about NoA/E ripping the game to shreds.
Rightfully.
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>>342354590
>murrifats not allowed to see skin

I hope you fat fucks get Hillary so you get even more feminism shit on you.
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>>342354684
The market got fairer and we now have more information about the product as consumers.
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>>342354779
Sounds like you're a xenophobic faggot afraid of trying something and hates on it just to feel like he fits in
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>>342354548
>/v/
>good at anything meaningful
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I want you to watch this and tell me with a straight face that you hate it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTl8gDQiKiE
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>>342354883
>Sounds like you're a xenophobic faggot
Because I hate cancerous materialistic pop music garbage? Because I think that's a completely fucking retarded theme to center a JRPG around?

Fuck you anon, I speak three fucking languages and my girlfriend isn't even white.
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YOU FUCKING AMERIFATS PIECES OF SHIT.
IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT. ALL THE CENSORSHIP IS YOUR FAULT.
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>>342354578
It's not piracy if I'm playing a version of the game not sold in stores. It's not like buying it will give me the game without censorship and english text so that I can understand it
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>>342354781
Quality filename
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>>342354371
Where do you think you are? What time of year do you think it is?
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>>342354972
>censored shit

I hate it.
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>>342354975
It's literally a /v/ meme to hate Jpop without ever listening to it
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>>342355038
Don't answer my question with questions retard.
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>>342354972
It was hilarious and cringe at first, but as I went back to watch it for laughs, it grew on me. A lot.

I kinda like it now.
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>>342353394
4 reviews, EDGE Magazine gave it a 7/10.
http://nintendoeverything.com/edge-295-review-scores/

Seems like a mediocre game with a wholly unappealing setting and a bunch of stuff covered up by prudish Americans. Can't wait for it to sell a million copies to the Atlus crowd.
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>>342354972
I hate it. Dear God, do I hate it. I fucking abhor it
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>>342352891
>less than 2 minutes for pirate-barney to show up and forbid people to buy games
Let's face it, you own any console.
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>>342355105
It ain't SMT, so Atlus crowd will avoid it like the plague especially after the first trailer
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>>342354724
>12 hour main story
>main story is padded
>no cutscenes, you're given exposition in text dumps
>repeated enemies after 2 hours
>only 6 areas, which are repeated after 4 hours
>MC is the SO4 MC again, down to animations and abilities
>OST is lackluster
>Can be 100%, including the busy work dungeon things, in 35 hours
>characters are largely unlikable
>only one town
>Story wraps up with glaring plot holes

Its not so much that its a step down from even Last Hope, it's that its a further step away from SO3.

>>342354437
We don't even know yet. I've played the Jap version and THATS censored.
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>>342354779
As you damn well should.
I'm a huge weeb, but even I find Idol culture to be absolutely disgusting.
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>>342355197
I can time stamp my ps4 and wii u for you if you want
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>>342352787
If you were deadset on not liking it, you were never gonna like it. But people that actually played it liked it and it had a decent reception in Japan. I don't know why anybody would be surprised.
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>>342352931
Yes
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>>342355095
>It's literally a /v/ meme to hate Jpop without ever listening to it
Nice assumptions shit-for-brains

I've heard it. It's trash. Fuck Idols. Fuck you for trying to defend that nonsense. You don't fucking get it. I hate lyrics in my music. There's fundamentally zero possibility of me thinking that Pop Idols are aanything but trash. Here's something you might not realize: I'd still probably hate the setting/theme of the game even if it was a Heavy Metal Band instead of a Pop Idol trio. It's moronic and not interesting in the slightest to play as performance musicians in a game like this. I hate this game harder than you can probably imagine.
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>>342355205
The Atlus crowd also avoid SMT like the plague; they are only interested in their waifu sims, so combined with nuFE fans, I can see it selling over 1 mil easily.
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>>342354781
>WHEN YOU ARE A GROWN UP MAN AND MOST OF YOUR READING CONSISTS OF TWEETS AND MEMES
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>>342354590
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>>342355241
Thanks. Guess I'll avoid the game for now.
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>>342355265
>>342354779
>>342354975
>/v/ hates Macross now

What happened?
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>>342355265
>I'm a """"""""huge"""""""" weeb

FTFY
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>>342352787

Daily Reminder that even the Nips are laughing at the people who will buy this censored garbage:

http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/8606187.html
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Daily reminder Treehouse members are complete and utter SJW nu-male cucks
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>>342355368
Sounds pretty racist to me senpai. But you do you.
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>>342355424
Minmay can go fuck herself.
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>>342355447
needs the wedding dress added
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>>342355460
In all honesty that's a lot higher than I expected from western cucks.
I expected 65-75
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I didn't care about the c encoring, until they took the fucking VAGINA BONES.
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>>342355265
>>342354779
idkshit about japan culture stuff. What's so bad about idol "culture?"

Also what even is "idol culture?" I was under the impression that japanese idols were just normal famous singers. Are they a special kind of celebrity?
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>>342355375
Last, I checked, they were creaming their pants for P5 and SMT4:Apocalypse. They're good and probably won't buy a WiiU for renouned censorshit
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>>342355241
Also the game is completely broken when you get access to the crafting system 2 hours in.
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>>342352938
It doesn't help it, you faggot.
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Would /v/ like this game even if it wasn't butchered to hell and back by the Treehouse?
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>>342352787
>trusting the western press when it comes to jrpg
My little anon-chan cant be this stupid
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>>342355375
>>342355618
I'm an atlus fanboy and planned on buying this, P5 and SMT IV Apocalypse but now this is censored so NoA can suck a dick
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>>342355375
>The Atlus crowd also avoid Atlus games like the plague; they are only interested in their Atlus games
???
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>>342355668
Probably not, specially because it bombed pretty hard in Japan and the idol shit theme.
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>>342355375
Nah. 300k world wide, we'll never get confirmation from Nintendo or Atlus though.

>>342355408
You're welcome
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>>342355569
Why? Westerners aren't butthurt social outcast virgins who need video game boobs to survive. Other than the censored tiddies, the gameplay and music is still fucking amazing as you'd expect from an Atlus game.
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Its a good game why wouldt it get good reviews?
A solid 7.5
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>>342355424
Never watched it, don't care to.

>>342355426
Need me to post my weeb figurine or my collector's edition of No Game No Life as proof? My signed Colour Code CD, perhaps?
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>>342355668
I would. The concept looks interesting enough and it would be nice to use the WiiU for something other then MH.
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>>342352787
>brilliant marriage of two beloved franchises
So the guy never played either of them?
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>>342355726
> Atlus is just Persona
Fuck off, bud
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>>342354548
You mean Atlus
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Honestly the game looks like a lot of fun. I never experienced the butthurt because, while I enjoy Fire Emblem and SMT, I'm not too invested into them. So when they announced the crossover my imagination never ran wild.
If I had a Wii U I'd probably try to pirate it.

Also dunno why people keep spouting idolshit, idols are fun. Who doesn't enjoy singing and dancing and pretty people?
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>>342355842
> SMT isn't Atlus
Fuck off, bud
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>>342355479
>Please never pick up Senran Kagura
What did he mean by this?
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>>342355392
literally me
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>>342355668

I'm buying it on the strength of Atlus as devs and the SJ/DeSur devs being involved. It was always going to be a very good game mechanically, regardless of what aesthetic it took.
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>>342355668
I thought it looked fun last e3, hell yeah I was going to buy it. But after recent events, I should have seen it coming. In the end, I wouldn't play this censorshit even if it was given to me for free. I'll only ever play it if it gets uncensor patched
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>>342355447
Cannot wait for the uncensored patch to be applied to the game when the ISO is ripped.
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>>342355795
>mediocre generic pop
>simplistic persona-lite gameplay

lol
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Since I have nothing to play I'm waiting to pirate this shit. Hope I can pass 3 hours.
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>>342352787
It has been out for over half a year and I've been saying it is good the entire time.
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Atlus is synonymous with Sony actually, what with Dragon's Crown, Odin Sphere, the SMT Magnum Opus Persona 5, and the upcoming Aegis Rim.
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https://twitter.com/meme_look/status/744820901321945088

Sad
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>>342355601
>Are they a special kind of celebrity?
Yes.
>What's so bad about idol "culture?"
It's like regular pop music culture but 100% more autistic and desperate. Imagine pop music culture from the west except where the core fanbase is mostly waifufags and lonely retards.

There's also a bunch of moralistic reasons to shit on it because of how they treat the actual Idols themselves. They specifically try to deny these women dating opportunities because people will reject their music and merchandise if they feel their waifu is being impure or whatever else.

Pop Idol music is the lowest form of music. Shallow, commercialized and rarely actually high quality. Japanese Pop Idol music takes it to the next level by adding all sorts of weird waifu shit and other nonsense.
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>>342352787
>show pictures of SMT and FE characters and let fans imaginations run wild
>release idol bullshit that no one in the west cares for

get all the way the fuck out of here with this disappointing piece of shit
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>>342352787
>Forgot about this Censorshit
>Got charged for my preorder, no money for food now
>Get pissed go to gamestop site to cancel, no option to, hasnt been shipped yet either
>Send email to GS to cancel, hasnt replied in 3-4 days
>Call them, was on hold for 40 min before giving up
>still no email
FUCK I JUST WANT MY GODDAMN MONEY BACK AND I DONT WANT TO SUPPORT CENSORSHIT.
I only have $30 to last me an entire week because of this dumb game.
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>>342355928
> just
Nah LITERALLY fuck off, my good friend anon.
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>>342355987
>>simplistic persona-lite gameplay
Have you played it?
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>>342356016
That must explain why SMTIV Final was on the Vita
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>>342356016
Sony gets the atlus weebshit.
Nintendo gets the atlus edgyshit, except for this.
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>>342355987
It has a far better battle system than Personas. Far better.
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>>342356052
Why do you buy games at all if you are so poor
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>>342355601
It's basically that, but exclusively for cute girls.
They focus on keeping their performers "pure" and "moe" to the point of obsession. There was a girl that cut off all her hair as "punishment" for having a boyfriend.

To generalize, they treat real life girls the same way we treat 2D waifus, and I find that fucking disgusting.
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>>342356039
It's been over a year and you're still crying like a bitch holy fuck let it go
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>>342356095
pirated the chink version.

The game is embarrasingly easy as well. Like, Pokemon levels of easy
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I think I'm gonna buy it because the gameplay looks fun. I'm not a fan of idolshit but the footage at E3 was enough for me to get sold on it.
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>>342356018
What did he mean by this
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>>342356169
That's Kpop.
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>>342356217
post timestamp
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>>342356229
Basically

>Please buy my game
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>>342353687
Look at the date, idiot.
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>>342354240
They pretty clearly cheapened out on this games localization, probably had like one dude translate everything.
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Bash this for the censoring all you want, but fuck off if its because of the theme. How dare they try something new, we should just have more playing safe trash RPGs like SMT4. I'm still mad about that, had to wait a year and a half for SMT4 as a european, and its fucking dog shit. You call this a successor to Nocturne?
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>>342352787
I've always looked forward to this game. It's Persona, except not shit.

But NoA have butchered with their 4kids censorship so I have to pirate it. It sucks.
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>>342355460
>two Nintendo shill sites
Wait until other sites release their scores.
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So I heard that the FE element is that FE characters are like stands for the characters in game, but what's the SMT element?
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>>342355668
Nope story is still be generic shonen manga tier, visual design is still uninteresting and there would still be less depth to it than to any other atlus rpg.
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>>342356341
That's pretty common in localization
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Can anyone who already owns the game tell me if you can play with headphones? The only time I'm able to play is at night and this seems like a pretty loud game.
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>>342356430
>what's the SMT element
Strange Journey combat with DDS dungeons
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>>342356430
Dungeons and the modified battle system
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>>342355987
>generic pop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwnuC_4dtk4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcnKsbo9tXU

Did you even play the game? Did you even listen to the music? The OST isn't some idolshit pop music you idiot.
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>>342356218
Just pirate it dude. Get loadiine and get it for free with no censorship. No need to support censorshit. The devs have already been paid. At this point, it'll only hurt censortendo
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>>342355618
Don't kid yourself, they only like Apocalypse for the fuccboi protag. It will still sell worse than 4.

>>342355697
You're on /v/ so you aren't who I am talking about.

>>342355726
Atlus crowd are not Atlus fans, they are the equivalent of nuFE fans.

>>342355807
>Japanese
>JRPG
>anime
These are things Western critics usually hate. Expect that number to drop as a result.

>>342356018
>Tsubasa's new costume is cute, so censorship is alright
What a cuck.
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>>342352787
Holy shit you people are dumb as fuck.
Complaining because fapbait censorship.

Did they at least not change the personality of a character or the relation relationship between characters? Did they change/censor an important part of the story? Those are the things I want to know. If I want to masturbate I have sad panda and its wide library of filth.
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>>342355668
I would buy it, I'm either going to get it used or I'll download the JP iso and get the translation when it's done.
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>>342356575
They changed an entire chapter you fucking loser.
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>americans shitting on japanese idols when they're the country with the most celebrity worship, gossip and general fucked-up cult status
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>people not buying it because of censorship
>not because of the stupid fucking concept, or the ugly ass artstyle, or the dumb fucking singing everywhere

consider suicide you weaboo fucks
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I do not mind games being censored a little. But thus one was a total butcher job. I refuse to buy a game this censored
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>>342356430
The rest of the game. Dungeon crawling, skills, side quests, upgrades, waifus, etc
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>>342356575
>defending censorship
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>>342356669
Yeah, instead of wearing swimsuits, they're just normal models now. Sound the fucking alarm.
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>>342356710
maybe it's all of the above
why would you care, it still won't get a sale
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>>342356575
Actually yeah they rewrote one of the dungeons and part of one of the character's personalities to fit with it.
I'm sure you can convince yourself that it wasn't an important change so it's not really censorship if you try though.
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>>342356669
>>342356857
Why does the majority of /v/ only complain about the vagina bone + fapbait bullshit then? That's the thing they should be mad about.
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>>342356804
>he gets triggered from swimsuits
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>>342356390
Sure, try something new. Nintendo does it all the time, often recently to detriment. But you probably shouldn't take a franchise of consorting and summoning literal demons/devils and another franchise of medieval politics/strife and try and make it idolshit. You take those labels off the box and nobody gives a shit anymore. If someone made a Mario and Sonic crossover game, you're telling us to eat shit when they make it a grand strategy game?

I just can't see the reasoning why Nintendo ported the damn thing to the states. It flopped in a market where they chow down on idolshit whenever they can. Yet they think bringing a title for a much more minuscule western niche (and butcher it along the way driving a good portion of that niche away) is gonna do anything?
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>>342356039
>show pictures of SMT and FE characters and let fans imaginations run wild
>they are now obligated to consult with fans and find out exactly what game they're imagining so they can make it for them

You faggots made up a game in your head based on zero information. They made a different game than you imagined. You've been throwing a year-long temper tantrum on /v/.
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>hashtag FE

This game will be a massive flop, and deserving of it.
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>>342356893
Because they don't actually care about the game and just want to be outraged at people who dislike excessive sexualization
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>>342356893
>why do people complain about this censorship but not this one I find important

Idk, maybe cause your a retarded nigger?
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>>342356390
Nocturne was trash, faggot.
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>>342356893
We do, censorship defendors just ignore that.
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>>342357048
okay Lucifer
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>>342356893
Because they're the changes that have been broadcast everywhere, you'd need to look into it to see the rest

>implying most of the people complaining cared about the game anyway
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>>342356575
Canon lewd is better than non-canon lewd. Think of it like this, they take your lewd doujins and make it completely non-lewd by the time it gets to you. If you're okay with that, then you're a canon cuck
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>>342356893
They're mad about everything, it's just easier to post images about visual changes on a fucking imageboard than extensive dialogue changes.
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Figures that Amerifat casuals that don't know jack shit about either franchises would say something like this. It's the equivalent of taking a Bayformers review from a guy that's never seen the show or read the comic books seriously.
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>>342352787
>/v/ was wrong once again.


we'll see those sales figures
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>>342352891
Post snail
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>>342352787
>I thrust reviews when they cater to what I like
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>>342352787
Nintendrones just think about this.

If you actually count this game as a worthy exclusive, the Vita suddenly becomes the platform with the most and best exclusives of the gen.
Either all pedoshit compile hearts panty quest "games" count, or none do.


Be careful.
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Even though this game is ruined by idolshit I really like the art and character design.
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>>342352787
Friendly reminder that low score reviews can't be posted before the embargo expires.
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>>342352891
>Don't support their censorship, but it used or pirate
I don't really understand this, and I've mentioned it before only to get responses of "I want to try and have some impact on business practices."

If the censorship is bad enough to avoid paying, why play it at all? If it's bad enough to support a complete monetary boycott to the company, why is it still worth any of your time? It's this bizarre, hypocritical moralization to it that gets me. If you don't want to pay at all, or just want to pay less, sure. But the idea that it's so bad that it requires a company changing policy but not you actually avoiding the product is baffling.
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>>342355105
>EDGE Magazine gave it a 7/10.

lol the same idiots that gave a reskinned souls game with stripped features a 10/10
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>>342356039
The sad thing is a actual crossover was considered when they made the deal.
Then Atlus shoved this game to a new formed team which consisted mostly of cheap newly hired college dropouts once they got their money and basically told them to produce the cheapest garbage they could.
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You forgot to mention that the review came from a huge nintendo shill
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>>342352891
/thread
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>>342357163
>seen the show or read the comic books seriously

You just made me realize for the first time that there's such a thing as a hardcore Transformers fan. I had honestly never even considered that that was a possibility.
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>>342357348
>Doesn't know about Willis
Continue to remain ignorant, anon.
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>Although Tokyo Mirage Sessions cannot be played in off-TV mode
REALLY?
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>Nintendrones shilling literally the only game for Wii U for this year

Why am i not surprised?
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>>342353582

2 out of 40

wow congrats game of the generation

meanwhile splatoon sold 3 out of 13

ps4 is literally for dudebros
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>>342352787
/v is really the opposite /pol
talking about useless consumer shit and being always wrong, i love it.
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>>342352787
FYYYA EMBEREMU
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>>342357258
Well, the censorship is bad enough to avoid playing it. Thats why we keep talking about the jp version, uncensor patched version and downloading the patched ISO when anyone other than a literal paid for shill talks about it
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>>342352787
I could literally not care any less about this game. It can be the best game ever made and it is still pandering weebshit. They had the chance to make badass warriors fighting and taming demons from hell itself but instead they made it about singing pretty boys and sluts. I will eternally be mad about this bullshit. Nothing on earth will ever stop me from being mad about this.
Fuck what fire emblem has become. Fuck pandering weebshit for ruining jap games.
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>>342352891
Shouldn't you support the game actually being localized with the original voice cast?
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>>342353996
>arranged by people who hate the game to mock it
>contributed to by people who hate the game to mock it
what was the point, literally the most autistic thing i've ever witnessed
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>>342357289
Isn't there a number of dumb fucking things done by developers on Nintendo platforms recently, especially in their US releases, that Nintendo and NoA got blamed for that were actually a decision by the development company? I recall something about the Bravely Default games and FE: Awakening being in there, though I know the second had closer ties between the translation team and NoA.
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>>342356893
Two reasons:
1.) All the are either lazy, ridiculous, stupid or all three
2.) Story changes can only be know from leaks and early release footage. The changed story of the gravure dungeon was only know when the footage leaked and since the stuff that was changed was integral to the dungeon plot.
More changes wil show up.
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>>342354370

>sold more than neptunia
>somehow a fail
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>>342357534
so how much of this game is musical shit and how much is jrpg

because im really not interested in idolstuff
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>>342357258
Censorship is bad. People do not want to support censorship.
Even censored, the game is still worth playing. People still want to play the game.
Buying the game is unacceptable since it means supporting censorship.
Ignoring the game is unacceptable since it means they can't play.
Buy the game used/pirating does not support censorship but does mean they can play, so both wants are fufilled.
I hope this makes it easier for you to understand.
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>>342357272
You could pick out retarded reviews from every critic ever, but those are usually the outliers, a 7/10 seems inline with the other reviews so far.
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>>342355008

except the JP version is sold in stores, they just happen to be far away from you, pathetic poorfag loser
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>>342354240
that's the proper use you retard
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>>342357579
But anon, and others, were specifically mentioning buying it used. And I've seen this used in conjunction with similar, though slightly less egregious, censorship things in the past.

I haven't been frequenting #FE threads, though, so my apologies there.
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>>342357650
It's just a JRPG. The plot is idol-related. There are idol-related "summon" attacks.
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>>342357480
>poor grammar
>types like a retard
>can't read dates
The average PS4 hater, everyone.
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>>342357731
>a 7/10 seems inline with the other reviews so far.

that's exactly the point you poodle, Edge just attunes to whatever the average is and goes with it, everyone was praising bloodborne like the second coming of christ when it was a borderline call of duty sequel styled clone of the previous games
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>>342357480
Difference is PS4 users have many games to play and new ones get released weekly, unlike Nintebdrones that need to buy every piece of shit rehashed 2d platformer nintendo shits because they get 2 games a year.

Also Splatoon is a multiplayer shooter meanwhile BB is niche as fuck and was a great succes outselling most of it's games on the franchise even though it was an exclusive.

Next you'll compare Super Ultra "New" Mario Bros ultimate U sales against Nier, retard.
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>>342357725
Censorship is bad, but you still wanna consume censored products knowing fullwell you're not getting the original product?
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>>342357959
Yes.
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And yet it's still censored
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>>342358006
You're silly
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>>342355394
>removing vagina bones
That's it. They crossed the fucking line this time. Enough with this bullshit. I'm hacking my Wii U, no more shekels from me anymore.
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>>342357854

>no comeback
>oh--oh I-I know! I'll insult his g-grammar l-lol!! B-BTFO!

all of my keks, you can have them

>>342357910

>PS4 users have many games to play

Like bloodborne and....err...uh? Oh yeah those movies you press X to awesome in and those *also on PC ))Exclusives((, fucking lmao!

>BB is niche as fuck

HAHAHAAHAH yeah because blood everywhere action rpg games are totally obscure and out of this planet, especially after the dark souls memes, sure thing pal you can have the autism award this year!
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>>342357480
Those numbers are outdated, friend, and it doesn't count digital store downloads.

Considering how dark souls didn't even reach that number with 2 platforms is telling its own story
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>>342357595
If it also means supporting censorship, then no.
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>>342357782
>i'm too retarded to use google
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>Treehouse Tokyo Mirage stream
>"《insert character name》is awesome in this quest! She's trying to learn how to be cute"

Fucking lol i cringed so much, this game should be on the Vita it's literally made for turbo virgin autists with pillow wifes.
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>>342357959
I'm sure some people do.
It turns out people can actually have multiple priorities. They can dislike one aspect of something but still like another.
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So I heard this game is basically Strange Journey with a Persona skin. If so, I'll give it a spin when it gets a price drop.
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>>342357867
How do they decide what the average is 2+ weeks ago when the magazine went into print? Fucking retard.
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>>342358119

You are right Splatoon is even higher now.

>Considering how dark souls didn't even reach that number with 2 platforms

You are right it reached it with ONE platform, PC.

http://wccftech.com/dark-souls-series-sold-8-million-copies-40-pc/

>the first Dark Souls game has sold 1,966,773 copies ON PC ALONE
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>>342357725
If you're still capable of enjoying it, then censorship is not capable of ruining a game. It is merely one more negative point against it. Plenty of games have shitty practices or shitty mechanics or whatever that are a negative mark against them that people still pay money for and don't make arguments about not paying money to the company for. Like incredibly bad voice-acting.

If it's worth any amount of your time as a game, any argument about it not being worth your money goes out the window and it's back to same pirate or used games arguments as there is for every game. Which aren't necessarily wrong, per se. But lack any sort of principled moral foundation outside of pure selfishness. Which is also fine, but a bit of a contrast to the foundations of censorship arguments.
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>>342355668
No, from everything I've heard it's absolutely terrible, but I might have at least bought it to try it out if it hadn't been censored.
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>>342358114
I can smell your autism from here.
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>>342358245
>using logic and well crafted arguments
>on /v/
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>>342358281
1.900.000 copies at 4$ sales is still less than 2 million sales at 60$
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>>342358254
No, who the fuck told you that?
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>>342358278

>He never worked for any company EVER that had an office

RETARD alert, marketing companies and publications are in constant communication and tune up to trends for pitch and editorial work, you fucking idiot, the embargo lifts can be used as a tent for parallelism, but of course you wouldn't even know what that is since you are an uncultured swine.

>>342358346

>still no comeback

>>342358430

Yeah sure everyone bought bloodbored at 60 bucks friend, all three of them.
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>>342358281
>steam sales

lmao, keep moving them goalposts m8

Bloodborne is easily at 4 million plus now
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>>342358430
REKT
HAHAHA
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>>342358459
Yo mama.
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>>342358310
I never said anything about it being or not being worth money, you stupid strawman attacking person. It's a matter of supporting/not supporting censorship. That's a completely different thing to whether it's worthwhile or not.
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>>342358528
Please calm your tits autismo boy.
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>>342352931
Arguably the only way to enjoy it is if you've never played a SMT or FE game in your life.
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>Nintendrones boasting about sales in a gen where the Pii Pu will never outsell the Vita.

This is too fucking much please somebody hold me.
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>>342354972
The fuck is this
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BLUNDER OF THE CENTURY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChDon30R4vg
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>>342358528
Look at the other magazines Future Publishing publishes, Edge clearly doesn't communicate with those, so why would they communicate with anyone else?
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>>342352787
Nope, it is shit alright.

I saw a lot of gameplay videos because I'm a fan of both Persona and Fire Emblem...

And this #FE game is easy as shit, there is zero challenge to be found in it, even without grinding at all. Even the final boss is a huge pushover, only with padded HP. It looks like it is almost impossible to die, the only way to do so would be to completely ignore healing spells that fully restore your whole party.
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Ok, So seriously I love quirky weeby games and I love the Persona series.
However I couldn't get into BD2 just from how altered it felt.
With the Steam sale coming up I'll probably blow a shit load of money there so passing on this would help out however
How good is it? I'm guessing some of you have an early copy or a Japanese Wii U
Was this touched over with a scalpel or a machete?
I'm a believer that the love you put into your work shows, if the guys bringing it over couldn't care less about the product I don't know if I can.
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>>342355424
Why would I hate based Macross this game is just bargain bin trash.

http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1466466603687.webm
http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1465813191995.webm
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I only await the full list of "changes" so I can have a laugh.
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>>342359408
Fucking nips who love idolshit games couldn't even bother to buy 30k copies.

This game is literally a bigger blunder than Battleborn and tortanic combined.


It's shit.
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>>342357348
So you never watched Pawn Stars, then?
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>Persona 4 Golden : 93
>#FE : 85

KEK
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NO NO NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOOO
This was game was censored, It cant have good reviews! Its more like more like more lik eWWE GQJ%UIW$UAETHFGJFJYUI%U
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>>342359589
>[PS2] Persona 4 (Atlus) {2008-07-10} — 211,967 / 294,214 [Famitsu Tracker Data]
>[PSV] Persona 4 Golden (Atlus) {2012-06-14} — 137,076 / 329,050
>[PS2] Persona 3 (Atlus) {2006-07-13} — 127,472 / 210,319 [Famitsu Tracker Data]
>[PSP] Persona 3 Portable (Atlus) {2009-11-01} – 108,343 / 208,877 [Famitsu Tracker Data]
>[PS2] Persona 3 FES (Atlus) {2007-04-19} — 105,099 / 165,471 [Famitsu Tracker Data]
>[WIU] Genei Ibun Roku #FE (Nintendo) {2015-12-26} — 23,806 / NEW [Famitsu Tracker Data]

That actually really took me by surprise, It's shockingly low.
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>>342354972
FIAA EMBUREMMMM
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>>342359962
It's not getting good reviews sperg.
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Waifushit and otaku pandering killed anime, manga, and has almost killed videogames in Japan.
This has nothing to do with respecting women or SJWs, and has everything to do with telling weeb faggots to shut the fuck up and get a fucking grip. To anyone who says they won't buy a game because of fapbait removal: Good. Fuck off. More companies need to see you pathetic shits for what you are, fickle crybabies. The less the industry has to lean on pandering to these drydicked virgins the more they can focus on what matters: making actually good fucking videogames.

Remember, the future these NEETS want is a world full of Senran Kaguras. Dogshit games that get their dicks hard. These people need to go back to their hentai games and leave mainstream vidya alone.
People only interested in a videogame for a waifu, and willing to drop it because of a threat to the waifu content? Why the fuck should these people be catered to when they don't give a shit about the actual GAME? How is this any different to some idiot SJW who will only consider buying a game if it features a gay romance, and will then abandon it the moment it doesn't fall completely in line with what they needed to get their approval? Both waifufags and feminists don't give a shit about anything beyond being pandered to and they both need to fuck off.
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>>342360181
butthurt
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>>342359772
>going out of your way to shit on #FE
>not just getting both
>caring about critic reviews
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>>342360181
Anon i agree with you but then i suppose you aren't buying this piece of idolshit regardless of censorship because it's the perfect example of everything wrong with japanese games, right?
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>>342359997
Why you comparing with persona?
Compare with smt you retard
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Unlike the GBA babies on here that only know about Mars because of Memelee, I played every FE up to Shin Monsho No Nazo, watched the OVA, read the Maki Hakoda manga, and even own some of the trading cards. I'm one of the people that hates the new direction FE went in with Awakening and predicted it as soon as I saw the kind of praise it was getting on here. I was even more disgusted when I saw people claiming without a bit of irony that there's no difference between what happens in Genealogy and what happens in #FE since "marriage = waifus" or some such nonsense. As far as I'm concerned, this censorship is nothing but pure retribution that you all deserved. (and it's totally relevant despite the score since you people wo't shut up about it as well.) But anyway, allow me to give you a bit of history on FE and explain why this game is so bad:
Nintendo made a western fantasy inspired SRPG series 25 years ago, it featured all sorts of fucked up shit like incest and indoctrination of children into the cult of nationalism, and that kind of stuff. Of course, casuals don't care about that kind of stuff (or know how to import/download fan translations) so it wasn't doing so well and only became known in the west because of Mars and Roy being in Smash Brothers since no one watched the OVA, and of course, most didn't even play the ones that did get localized. Nintendo got desperate and made a new Fire Emblem that was heavily anime inspired, so it went from being like Lodoss to being like Queen's Blade(along with being casualized in general). It was a huge hit (with casuals), but many posters here warned people that this was going to set the precedent and they were ignored due to being outnumbered by the blind. After this success, a crossover with Megami Tensei was announced, which turned out to actually be an Idolmaster game, but with some occasional sword fighting, proving the aforementioned warning posts correct. Think about that. (cont.)
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We went from a game where you lead a cowardly lord down the path of being a brave man and growing as a person to regressive shit that panders to men that will never grow up and only like to think about sexual acts they will never be able to perform on actual women, yet at the same time, aren't even smart enough to just play Eroge. Seriously, if you need some suggestions, you could always check out the Rance series or Valis X if you want to see sex in a medieval setting (You don't pay attention to the plot anyway, clearly, so the lack of translation for a lot of these games won't bother you). Lightning Warrior Raidy has an official translation for you pseudo moralfags that has more boobies than you underage retards can probably count. Boobs Wars is yet another anime game with sword fighting and actual genitalia depicted. Now, I know the fucktarded are already typing out their posts about Mars having a waifu with big boobies, but consider the fact that Mars didn't have to force Shiida's to put on some makeup and start singing to show that he liked her, since the developers at least had like an ounce of respect for women at the time. The worst part is when we talk about how this is nothing like the earlier games, they'll cite the completely played straight depictions of incest and period accurate underage marriage as evidence of it always being an anime game since we all know that Deliverance is an anime movie, as is The Woodsman since both involve incest and pedophilia which are anime exclusive tropes that make everything into super funny comedy anime. You people can believe whatever you want to believe, just stop ruining good franchises, play fap games since that's what you are here for anyway, and please stay the fuck away from actual threads about FE that aren't just "I want to marry x!", "X is cute! Cute!", or "X has no ass! X has no tits! X has no boingy bits!" or whatever memes are currently being spouted by these types of people. (cont.)
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>>342352787
Wrong. /v/ loved this game but hated Nintendo for what they did to it.
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>>342360395
It also listed with FE, SMT, Wii U and a few others.
I just happened to be looking at Persona at the time so posted that.
Go look it up yourself if you're so interested retard.
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>>342360181
Underrated post
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>>342354684
most of the people who are mad about this are 16y/o redditors who just don't know because 360 was their first console
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>>342360426
Tl;dr
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>>342360567
It was posted five fucking minutes ago, you shit!
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>>342355197
>Let's face it, you own any console.

Well, yeah, anon, why else would he be on /v/?
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>>342359997
>The biggest persona game sold 300k on jp

Why did some people pretend it could have higher sales than FFXV? In perspective the 900k units sold of SMTIV is not really that low considering is a budget game made with 5 bucks. So persona Q with 1m units sold.

Why people like to pretend is a big or relevant franchise at all?
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>>342360426
>the old FE is better, I promis! muh incest children natiunalism cult!

What I'm the kind of person that loved FE on GC, and Awakening, and I think FAtes is one of the best yet?
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And you KNOW that that is exactly why they care because 90% of the discussion you see about #FE on /v/ is about pandering stuff being removed. I know you kiddies weren't on /v/ at the time, but do you recall people complaining about the removed elements in Radiant Dawn to the point that 90% of the game discussion was about the change of some of the lines in the EU version, the lack of dual audio, or change of character names? No, because the game had at least SOME features it could stand up on its own with beyond lol boobies. That is the only reason casuals and most of /v/ cares about this game and the people complaining about the censorship don't even play Fire Emblem anyway, because they would be more concerned with the fact that it's a kusoge than the fact that it's a censored kusoge.

And once again, the scores are irrelevant, given that most of these "reviewers" lack the context that people like I or maybe 10% of old /feg/ have. This applies to both high and low scores, by the way. Please stop using the opinions of useless "journalists" to strengthen your "arguments" when they are convenient.
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>>342360660
weeb detected
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>>342352787
>SJW Journos and Feminist reviewers giving it good reviews

Hmm I wonder
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>>342352787
>Reviews matter x Reviews don't matter for the next 5 threads
>Some guy complaining about censorship
>Some guy falseflagging
>Rampant waifuposting
>meanwhile, no actual gameplay discussion is made
Gotta love this website
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Not gonna beat around the bush. I want to play the game and enjoy cute wafius at the same time.

The censorship of said waifus annoys me. This is my only problem with the game. I would get the Jap version, however, I cannot read Japanese yet.
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>>342352787

>Imperfect yet brilliant marriage of two beloved franchises

Opinion fucking discarded, even if the game is alright that is just a horrendous lie
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>>342359997
>>[PSP] Persona 3 Portable (Atlus) {2009-11-01} – 108,343 / 208,877 [Famitsu Tracker Data]
>>[PS2] Persona 3 FES (Atlus) {2007-04-19} — 105,099 / 165,471 [Famitsu Tracker Data]
Tell me again how FES is good
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>>342360841
Gameplay is fine.

The problem is that people here overblown the idol aspect of game.


It's not like it going make berserk delay again.
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>>342360659
Back to Twitter, heathen.
>>342360693
Then you are the exception, not the rule? Breaking my post down to a few keywords and adding muh is not a counteragument. It's the equivalent of saying "well yeah, your child may have gotten beheaded by Muslims, but mine are still fine XD." Feel free to disagree, but at least give reasons beyond "hahaha, nope, nice try, I played this one game that you didn't even mention, so you're incorrect!"
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>>342360181
Daily reminder that waifushit is a cancer that has ruined more game series than feminists ever have, and should be resisted. Autistic beta waifufags will kick and scream and defend ALL waifushit no matter how bad things get, no matter how terrible the games. If it gets their dick hard: it's great. It doesn't matter to them how fucking awful the game is. They're exactly like furries who will hand over $100 for some piece of shit drawing just because it tickles their fantasies.
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>>342361083
But your argument is essentially "BECUS SOMETHING I DON'T LIKE BUT OTHER PEOPLE LIKE THAT-ARE-NOT-ME IS HAPPENIN, IT DESERVES TO DIE!!! FUKKK"

Please, calm your autism. Just look at this post. >>342360181. It's essentially a pure sample of butthurtitis.
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>>342360658
this doesnt even make sense you fucking retard. Sounds like something a 16 year old would say
>>342354684
it's not surprising just more transparent now that people can see what the originals looked like before they censor them.
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>>342354732
niggers buy nintendo consoles now?
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>>342360687
SMTIV barely reached 600k worldwide

P4G is at ~1.4 million worldwide
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>>342360957
It's an enhanced re release of the normal version which out sold P3P so yeah it's better.
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Someone with some brain can explain me why this game tickles the autism on this board?

Besides the fucking trailer that NoA made way back.
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>>342361664

The idol theme and censorship.
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this will sell like 300k max
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ITT: dumbo weebs getting told, just like with every other #FE thread
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>>342357258

Piratefags will literally use anything as an excuse not to buy games. Poorfags do this too.
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>>342361664
Wii U exclusive
Censorship
SJWs
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>>342354848
>feminists are for censoring female nudity
how retarded can you be? Conservacucks with puritan values are responsible for this shit. The same kind of people that go on about "muh degenerates" on this site.
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>>342360181
This pasta is so stale anime is better today than it ever was. Just cause you toonami babies got 4 good shows spanning a decade of content does not mean moeshit has not always been the driving market force.

Only idol shit and trash LN adaptations are actually suffocating the medium right now.
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Fuck off Tharjafag
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>>342361967
cute
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>>342357779
The JP version isn't available in a language I understand, pitiful censorfag virgin
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Alright, real talk, should I promote Chrom into Great Lord or Conqueror?

You never know with SMT or FE if it's magic that's gonna be good in lategame or you should go all in with physical and just expect your dudes to hit as hard as possible and rack up a crit or two on the way in.
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>>342361514
The problem isn't even me not liking it. The problem is the franchise changing completely to satisfy a new fanbase. I was also disappointed by the 1987 ninja turtles cartoon trying to target a new group of kids rather than the people that got the context of what the comic book series was parodying. I'm not like the guy you're linking to since he's cherry picking examples of an entire medium rather than just one franchise that actually has changed. Also, this is /v/, so if you get that upset by people daring to air their discourse over a new entry in a long franchise, I think you may need to go back to a certain site for people like you that aren't used to this.
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>>342362008
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>>342361967
source? reverse image search gives nothing
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>>342352787
Tales of Zestiria got good reviews here what's your point?
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>>342362008
This isn't the 90s my friend.
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>>342362095
>Just cause you toonami babies got 4 good shows spanning a decade of content does not mean moeshit has not always been the driving market force.
oh so you started watching anime after the year 2000, got it
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Is this place ever right lol

Why do I listen to you fags anymore
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>>342362278
Well to be frank, if the old fanbase was 1% of the new fanbase, of fucking course the would satisfy the 99%.
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Actually cannot wait for Tokyo Mirage Sessions to come out in America.

So I could pirate it..
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>>342362287

A country where a kid literally has access to fire weapons are disgusted by a sexy 3D chinese models

Boy what the fuck is wrong in murrica
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>>342362423
>72 meta
>Good
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>>342360181
I just want good gameplay AND waifushit though.
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>>342362287
New wave SJWs bitching about a game solely about watching tits bounce around and sites pandering to them for clicks = feminists are for censorship. Like I said, how retarded can you be?
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Why did you lie to me /v/? I can't believe I doubted based Atlus.
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Where were you when /v/ got BTFO?
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>>342357184
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>SJW reviewers like censored video games

no shit
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>>342362682
>you
>stupid
pick two
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>>342362876
If the game wasn't censored at all, what would polygon score have been?
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>>342363025
6
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>>342363025

6 or 7 easily
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>>342362876
>weebs face when
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>>342352787
I don't care how good you say it is it isn't my Fiya Emburuhh.
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>>342362876
>Polygon
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I thought Treehouse was an E3 thing.

Now you're telling me they localize and translate games?
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Is this correct /v/?
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>>342362876
>Polygon
Okay no link someone who is relevant and can play video games.
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Put in your dense heads
Atlus games are always solid
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>>342362876
>9.5

C E N S O R F A G S
E N S O R F A G S
N S O R F A G S
S O R F A G S
O R F A G S
R F A G S
F A G S
A G S
G S
S

B T F O
T F O
F O
O
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>>342362876

>Polygon

Why am I not surprised at all?
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>>342363590
Don't dare to bring logic to this thread.
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>>342363449
Most likely yes, Persona 5 will be the big game.

KowaSHITai is the aperitive.
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>>342363449
But Persona 5 will give us yet another band of bland archetypes.
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>>342363445
Treehouse does refer to a group at Nintendo responsible for localizing games. Atlus localized #FE though.
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>>342363804
Indeed but with far better execution.
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>>342352787
>weeb trash gets good reviews
>actually good games like starfox zero get shat on
I don't get it at all
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>implying bit changes my stance pre Treehouse localisation
Not my thing.
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>>342362876
>polygon falls to idolshit

The irony
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>>342352787
Never heard of opencritic, Faggot. Nice shilling.
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>>342352787
I never thought it would be bad but I'm still uninterested. I wanted smt and fe. This is idolshit persona
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Hey guys, do you remember that kid that spammed #FE hate on /v/? You know, the kid that got exposed?

I wonder if he killed himself. What's his name again?
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>>342362876
AND PERSONA 4 GOLDEN GOT A 10 FROM THEM

KOWASHITAI FAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>342363859
How do you know, man from the future?
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>>342355668
Atlus fags wouldn't as seen from their thoughts by release.

Here? Sure. People enjoyed worse.
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>>342362714
I really don't want to get involved with this but I will say that when a lot of these people hold positions in press outlets they have a readership they can influence. They don't have to explicitly say anything when they can influence others to conform to their view by saying something is inherently moral or immoral especially from a shared viewpoint or slant of the readers. They don't have to go through a court system like Jack did in the 90s they can shame people to get their way and attack reputations. What they say could be a half truth but does their readership care? Probably not. Whether it's censorship or not matters little as it'll have the same effect, developers no longer think it's worth the risk or headache to deal with bad press or the constant insults they'll get over some nudity whether tasteless or not or just some edginess they wanted.

These games they dislike could always be ignored.
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>>342362876
>polygon
>polygon liking Jap idol shit
What parallel universe did I walk into? Or was the treehouse censorship too powerful?
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>>342364175
Antonymous 34236175
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>>342355368
You are one of those fat, sweaty, metal nerds nobody liked arent you? Jesus, i dont like this game but you sound autistic as fuck dude
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>>342356018
>>342356573
>What a cuck.
Pretty much, then he comes with a sob story about how sad he was when he first heard the news that things have to be changed.

Just don't let them change anything you idiot. I bet Kamiya went through the same with bayonetta and told them to fuck off.
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Wait so how's the actual gameplay in this game? Is there dungeon crawling like in Nocturne/SJ, is the difficulty up there with other Atlus RPGs?
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>>342365778
It's Persona with a Fire Emblem skin.
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I don't see how or why it's getting good scores. It's FFX tier in almost every way.

Similar animation quality, writing quality, a lot of the same poor design decisions and lack of quality-of-life features, load times, shit "puzzles".
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>>342367568
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>>342367568
>good scores
but it isn't, above 97 is a good score.
everything below that is mediocre and everything under 80 is pure garbage
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>>342367568
FFX is one of the best games in the series.
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>>342368018
Even if this was true, the FF series is full of terrible games.
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>>342357258

I have the same philosophy, if it's not worth your money then don't play it either. I'm buying the game new only because I like both series and it's incredibly unfortunate that NOA loves to fuck America over with the localization of their games but Nintendo games in general don't get much cheaper even if they are used.
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>>342357440

Paper Mario Color Splash and the olympic games are also coming out this year.
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>>342368783
Shovelware and Shit on my beloved franchise

Oh well, like inafune said: Better than nothing
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>Caring about reviews like they mean anything

I don't need my opinions formulated for me thanks
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>>342364924
The reviewer is an Atelier fan apperently, so not surprised he is a fan of weeb games
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>>342362876
>polygon
>>342363449
>Slant magazine
>reviewing an asian game
does no one else get the joke
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>>342370648
That's racist, anon.
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>>342370801
I can't be racist, I'm not black.
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>>342364218
>Atlus fags

Well, they are all in the Sony camp, so no surprises here.
Would have been nice to see Nintendo being able to have games on its platforms that cater to the audience Sony monopolises these days.
Unfortunately, after the mess Nintendo created with the "localisation", I don't think that will ever happen.
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>>342369270
>Not surprised he is a fan of shitty weeb games
FTFY
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>>342371220
Oh. Okay. Carry on then, my non-negroid friend.
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>>342353054
>>bombed
The games sold reasonably well enough for being a niche RPG on a niche system, and more importantly than that, the tickets for the concerts sold out.
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>>342352891
This.

Doing loadliine today fuck nintencucks.
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>suddenly reviews matter
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>falling for the shills
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>>342371873
> followers: 9
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>>342352891
they censored gameplay ? or just boobs ? fucking idiot . if u want some porn go to fucking pornhub
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>>342356018
I'm so mad at Japanese devs. Makes my bloodpressure run wild.
I bet he's laughing at home at how butchered our version is.

>Please buy my game
>It has content which can only be enjoyed in this specific version!
>P-Please buy it
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>>342353821
>new ip
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>>342372120
story, artbook, costumes
what more could you ask for?

oh yeah, they didn't even translate all the dialogue
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I might get it some time when it's cheap. What they've shown seems fun enough.

I'm not even a big Fire Emblem or SMT fan, though, and even I can see that this was an absolutely retarded conclusion to this project.
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I would not actually be surprised that it gets good reviews since game journalists love to support censorship. They give this game a good score just to try to prove a point rather than actually measuring the game's quality.
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/v/ was ""btfo"" by DmC getting good reviews too

still didn't sell
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>>342372429
The artbook is censored as well?
Guess I'll have to import it second hand from Japan then instead of buying the LE.

Sometimes I wonder, if NoE and NoA even realize what they are doing.
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>>342372663
Do that, the artbook that comes with the game is just a preview, buy the full visual works instead
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>people thinking it will sell over 100k

>weebs mad about censorship
>FEfags hate the shit rep picks (only FE1 and Awakening characters)
>SMTfags hate the tone of the game
>WiiUfags usually only like first party titles
>idolfags have other vices like Rabu Raive, im@s, etc
>the Wii U is slowly dying
>it sold like trash in Japan, only merch saved it
>the US won't get any of that merch
Most sales will come from scalpers snagging limited edition copies
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>>342371873

>Forcing a meme this hard and nobody even really cares anyway

Embarssing
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>>342371634
It'd be a non issue really if /v/ didn't spend like an entire year telling everyone that nobody could possibly like this game.
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>>342372829
>full visual works

Hadn't heard about that, yet.
What is that and where is it getting released?
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>>342356946
I personally think they shouldn't have left fans hanging for the good part of 2 years with no notice that they'd be making such a big deviation.
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>>342372984
http://honto.jp/netstore/pd-book_27702205.html

It's been out for a while, 336 pages of pure artwork
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>>342352787
>>#FE getting positive reviews left and right

Yes, and? That doesn't mean the game is good. Some of the most disappointing games in history got good reviews.
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>>342373163
Thanks.

Just to make sure before I buy: Any previews, scans, etc. available?
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>>342372120

Yes, they completely altered the theme of a dugeon
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>>342372945
>people thinking it will sell over 10k
fixed
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>>342372120
I go where I want for boobs. You can't tell me nothin'
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>>342360395
SMTIV: 570,000
SMT3: 380,000
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>>342373449
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>>342373964
Where's the NA censored artbook? Just like the Bravely second artbook.
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>>342373163
Does toi8 have an archive artbook? Hell, anything with his Soul Cradle/Soul Nomad pieces?
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>>342374157
There's only the small booklet edition and all we've seen is from an unboxing video, but it has all the censorship found in the game so expect there to be more alterations.

Also textual censors are to be expected in it, mostly about maikos backstory and her gravure career
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>>342374353
Holy fucking shit that's sad.
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Ha! This is just the beginning. Once the sales figures come out showing it was a success, I will spam /v/ with it. You censorship idiots are constantly getting btfo.
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>you believed /v/ again
I feel so embarrassed
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>>342374514
Well, so far at seems they didn't touch toi9's actual sketches or artwork.

It's better than nothing
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>>342374665
>do the opposite of what /v/ says
Live and learn anon
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>>342374353
Isn't censoring art a line that shouldn't be crossed. Is burning books next up on the list.
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>>342374834
>a line that shouldn't be crossed
Nothing is sacred in the video game industry.
No other medium has to deal with this shit
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>only reviewer to mention the dubious localization quality is permanently banned from neogaf
It's like pottery. I've learned to not believe modern reviewers.
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>>342375318
the world is shit, just need to accept it and live with it

>>342374834
>Is burning books next up on the list.
no, but not bringing over all the DLC
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>>342375032
Nothing is "sacred" because they are products. Nintendo does not give a shit about "censorship" or you, only the amount of money they can make.
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It's weird that these game was made with the intent of doing something different, yet still manages to look generic and manufactured.
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>>342375638
>If I don't value my customer I'll sell more
Nice mindset, so that's why Nintendo has been doing so well these past years
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>>342361967
>>342362361
>>342362124
Lana Rain, she's my waifu. Do not touch.
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>>342375638
>they are products
books and movies are products too, why don't they censor to make more profit?

I'm sure game of thrones could be enjoyed by a much larger audience if it were properly localized
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>>342375930
Nintendo has never ever cared about what people think. They do what they want.

For what it's worth, they have been doing fine - splattoon for example, outsold bloodborne and halo 5 combined, even with the lower install base. Even if it didn't, they can easily coast on their Mario, Zelda, and Pokémon ips.
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>>342376015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cunMICmz1nQ
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>>342376543
Splatoon was also uncensored despite booty shaking squid lolis in spats
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All u hear from /v/ about this game is censorship, idol shit and that the game not being that SMTxFE trailer from 3 years ago.

But is the game even decent?
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Had no hype for the game, seemed too weeb even for a guy that grew up playing a lot of jrpgs, but now that it's getting so much positive press I'm gonna look into it
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>>342376825
it's average at best
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>>342376825
about 60 hours long
battle system is unforgiving until you figure it out then it's pretty easy, but still comes with a few challenging bosses
story is meh but has it's moments
new game+ content is not worth it
loading times can be a hassle

overall pretty decent
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>>342376342
For international movie releases they sometimes do. It's just a Google search away.
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>No one posts pastebins anymore
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>>342377089
Not in the civilized world
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>make a game even more casual than Persona
>Americans give good reviews
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>>342376342
Also, game of thrones has been censored internationally. Google it
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>>342377378
China and Iraq don't count. Did it lead to huge sales? Don't think so
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>>342356052
This is why you don't preorder games.
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LOL CENSORED GAEM
NO ONE BOUGHT IT IN JAPAN
SJW KEK KEK GIMME MY EDGY WEEBSHIT

>game does well critically in reviews
S-S-SEEE I T-T-TOLD YOU IT WAS BAD
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>>342378120
The game also did well ratings wise in Japan
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>>342377728
You do what you can to appease China. Come on, either it gets released in a huge market or it doesnt.
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Of course, it's getting good reviews. Nintendo censored it specifically to appeal to SJW reviewers who have mental breakdowns at the sight of a titty. They blended Fire Emblem and SMT and somehow ended up with a game that feels like neither. Persona-lite with idol shit. A damn tragedy.
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>>342357631

Neptunia has literal pennies as a budget, and reuses assets like mad.

#FE is a flop
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>>342356052
I hope you like ramen.
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>>342362876
DELETE THIS !!!
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>>342354231
>Plus the game is launching in Europe+Asia+Africa+Mexico too soo
There's only an English text option so it will fail miserably.
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>>342362876
>Same website that gave Bayonetta 2 a 75
This shit is why reviews are not to be taken seriously.
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>>342362876
>game fits a liberal agenda
>better rate it well
wow, unexpected
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From OpenCritic:
90-100 = 7 reviews
80-89 = 8 reviews
70-79 = 2 reviews
60-69 = 1 review
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>>342352787
Gone Home also got lots of positive reviews from "professional" reviewers. Your point?
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It doesn't matter if a game is goty or best of all time, it's still censored. Supporting censorship enforces censorship. Fucking murcia already exports their prude standards to us europeans. WAKE UP and stop this bullshit.
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>>342357258
It's very simple even someone as simple as you can get it or choosing to not get.
It is the act of censorship that is being protested, not the game and one does not want to financially support such an act.
There is no hypocrisy there at all, even your train of thought in the words you wrote doesn't follow.
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>>342381228
NoA getting all the games now is really bad. If this game were handled by NoE there wouldn't be a single change made to it.

Why do we always just get second hand shit now?
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>>342381543
The amount of people not included in the censorship but involved in creating the game is far bigger than those in Treehouse/Atlus USA though.

Not buying the game will harm the industry period.
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And suddenly heavily censored japanese games get positive reviews even from Polygon. Hmmmmmmmm!

Too bad the customers have an opposite opinion about censorship and only blind fanboys and SJWs are ok with with this shit. And that comes from a Nintendo fan that defends Wii U.
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>>342381847
>Not buying the game will harm the industry period.
They could just sell the game people want if they want it to sell. It's not like they are unaware and powerless to revert the censorship
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>>342381847
There's a lot of people who had to work to get that hamburger to my table, but if the waiter picked their nose and wiped it on my food, it's going into the trash.
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>>342382110
>too bad customers have opposite opinion

Fates (the best selling of all time) and Bravely Second say hi.

YOURS is the minority opinion.
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>>342381847
Maybe it should, if censorship is the common practice at NoA, or they could not do these ridiculous, unnecessary changes and only translate instead of implementing their personal morals into someone's else's creation.
What's the harm in doing that?
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>>342382568
Guess what: Fire Emblem and Bravely Default sold because of gameplay and fanservice was just a small bonus that you can do without it. Tokyo Mirage's focus was the fanservice and it had lots of it and yet they removed it.

Nice try though.
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>>342382568
Fates also didn't cover up cleaveage as far as I know. With every consecutive title it gets worse
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>>342382568
So what if it's a minority opinion? It has no bearing on who's right or who's wrong, especially when the majority of those people have no idea that anything was removed changed at all, they didn't cast some sort ballot with their money.
They just bought something they thought they'd like.
It's an irrelevant statement to make.
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>TMS is 84
>SMT4 is 83

Fucking fuck
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>>342381575
Pic related is NoE censorship from 2015, game's not out in america whatsoever so don't even try that angle.

How will Shibatacucks defend this one? :^)
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>>342354661
Being poor seems terrible for mental faculties.

Fuckign glad i got money
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Glad to hear it. I preordered the collector's edition.

I'm not bothering with these censorship mental gymnastics. I have real life things to be concerned about. Call me when you guys are discussing the actual game.
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>>342383413
well that's news to me

makes me wonder how many games I played that were censored without even noticing it
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>>342380741
Sounds about right, good but not perfect.

Guess ill go buy it saturday.
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Uncensored Iso when?

I'd much rather download an english translation patch for a hacked Wii U than play Treehouse's version.
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>>342355447
>no subs for battle dialogue
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>>342353682
Even Japan didn't care about this game and this game has Japan written all over it.
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>>342353129
I like Fire Emblem, I like Shin Megami Tensei, I don't give a fuck about idolshit, so why would I care.
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>>342384343
there are more weeabos here than in japan though
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>>342384028
It's not even out yet.
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>>342383130
>they bought something they thought they would like

So what are people complaining about? People are happy. It's a product designed to make money, and that is it. It doesn't matter if 200 idiots on 4chan are upset.
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>>342384905
ignorance is bliss

I also bought bravely default before knowing about the censorship. Made me import a Japanese 3DS and never deal with this kinda stuff again
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>>342382887
And this will be about game play as well.

>>342383054
They took away petting in Fates, which was the right decision considering sales. If they kept that in it would make 200 idiots on 4chan happy, but upset the rest of consumers. It was a no-brainer decison. Their decisions in FE# are designed to increase sales, not to specifically make you happy.
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>Polygon gave it a 9.5
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>>342385584
How can they impact sales with stuff they didn't advertise and stuff the regular costumer doesn't know about?

All your post tells me is that fates could have sold 200 more copies to idiots
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>>342384905
>People are happy
Okay let's explore that, would you argue that if they had not made the changes, that people would not be happy?
Do you think they would care?
Could they have not made any of the changes they did and have it be possible that people would enjoy it anyways?
You seem to see the situation after the fact. I argue that the changes are unnecessary and will deny some people what they expected and wanted from the original Japanese version.
One would have to argue the positive effects of these changes, which there are none, the ratings always stay the same, the changes they make are never controversial things, things that any child could see at the beach or around their everyday lives, in which no one, as an example, with any reason would argue that it would be inappropriate for children to be on the same beach as adults in swimwear.
Justify them in the first place, because it is not the staring point and not done for any sensible reason, beyond people imposing their own personal morals onto everyone else just because they want to.
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>>342384343
It's more of a "they didn't want to care".

The people that this game appeals to are primarily aligned with Sony.
They don't want Atlus to make games for Nintendo consoles.
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>>342385924
Petting would have been a PR nightmare. Word would have spread, and it would have impacted sales.

You misunderstood. 200 idiots on 4chan may (emphasis on MAY) have bought the game, but the rest of their consumers would have been turned off from it. Please think outside of the bubble of these censorship threads.
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>>342386428
>Word would have spread, and it would have impacted sales.
Yes, positively. Teens actually like sexy stuff and sex sells
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>>342352787
Japanese games with some of the most wanton, bafflingly inconsistent censorship gets stellar reviews? Big surprise there.
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>>342386750
No. It would not be seen as "sexy", it would have been seen as odd and creepy.
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P5cucks on suicide watch. How they will beat Polygon's score now?
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>>342387086
and nintendo would have gotten free publicity for staying true to their fans and keeping it in the game.

clickbait articles don't influence anything, threads about it would have been shilled here and everywhere basically for free.

just look at that tracer thing and how much overwatch sold now thanks to it, with no harm done to blizzard.
You're just projecting your own thoughts and assuming everyone has your opinion, and that no other outcome could exists.
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