DA:I

It's good, well... year it's good, but /v/ will try to poison your brain thinkin, so be careful.

Agenda

>>342116768
Jesus christ why is everyone here such a beta? You already bought it. Just play the game and form your own opinion.

>LOL WHAT SHOULD I EXPECT? PLEASE TELL ME WHAT TO THINK.

>>342117164
No.
I just want to know /v/s opinion on it.

>>342116768
The writing is chock-full of contemporary propaganda and stereotypes that will make you cringe. Animations are pretty terrible. Movement, combat, dialogue, everything plays like The Old Republic. Best part of the game is riding a deer.

Yes, it's good. Not as good as the first Dragon Age, but better than 2 and a fun game in its own right. I enjoyed the story and characters a lot. I played as a Mage and enjoyed that, but play whatever you want. It's long as all fuck though, I completed everything and it took like 120 hours.

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It's a single-player MMO with a shit story & LGBT pandering.

>>342117482
Explain

You should expect everything to be covered in a thicc layer of vaseline and people looking like they're sweating 24/7, hair and facial hair included.

>>342117482
Damn i hate LGBT stuff being shoved at my face.

I thought it was pretty awful, but hey, whatever floats your boat.

>>342117482
The pandering is essentially non-existant if you don't talk to Krem.
The gameplay and animations are irredeemable shit though.

Honestly I thought it was pretty shit although it's miles better than 2
>One of the most annoying video game characters that you can't even kill in recent memory
>Janky ass animation like in >>342117482
>It feels like an MMO as there's a lot of go here do x y amount of times that just feels like lazy filler content
>Story's not even that interesting
>Combat is pretty much the same as DA:O

The main hub/base you get in this game is quite possibly the comfiest place in any game ever. Felt like home.

I see.Refund.

>>342117482
I strongly doubt you've played it, "single player MMO" is a meme criticism and a given, more of less, for these sorts of games, and the gay pandering was actually few and far between.

>>342117924
>>Combat is pretty much the same as DA:O
no
opinion discarded

>>342117532
The open-world is empty except for fetch-quests, enemies all have levels based on zones, the inquisitor needs to do LITERALLY everything and >>342117367 spoils some of the characters.
Also typical bioware moves like retconing the qunari from a strict caste-based society into a tranny/queer-friendly nation and 'half the cast is gay'.

>>342118248
>qunari from a strict caste-based society into a tranny/queer-friendly nation and 'half the cast is gay'.
IronBull was retard and liar

>>342117164
Why do people want to know what others think? WHY DO PEOPLE WANT TO DISCUSS VIDEO GAMES ON A BOARD FOR VIDEO GAMES?! FUCKING BETA FAGGOTS!

>>342118461
Sure he was anon.

Even though I enjoyed it and completed it, I can't deny that it has problems. Sera is horribly written, I have no idea who thought that character was even remotely acceptable. I feel bad for the voice actress for trying her hardest with such horrendous dialogue. The combat is also really simplified and streamlined (literally just hold right trigger until your mana/stamina is recharged enough to use one of 8 mapped abilities). Never needed to pause on the highest difficulty or tweak AI behavior/tactics. The game is filled to the brim with filler, but you have to do a significant amount of it to be able to access the main quests and be high enough level for them. I ended up doing all of it for trophies and completion's sake but probably at least 75% of it was necessary just to progress even though it's a lot of "kill X of Y" and collectibles.

>>342118641
Yes he was, he is a spy and compulsive liar. He literally says they chose him to be a spy because he was a liar.

It was better than I expected after DA2.

>Good
World was larger and there was more to do. The main roster was an improvement, though Sera really is an awful character all memes aside. Everyone else was fine to good. The Inquisition bits were well done, especially the throne stuff, they did a good job of making you feel like the leader of a military force. Overall interactions my Inquisitor had were satisfying. Good voice acting as usual. Some chapters, like the ball, were well done and a welcome change from adventuring.

>Mediocre
Combat got rid of the awful universal cooldowns that DA2 had but still wasn't all that fun.

>Bad
As usual Bioware can't into animation. Plot was typical, big bad on a mission to rule the world, the problem is that the villain had no charisma or memorability and wasn't even intimidating, half the time it didn't even feel like he was that far ahead of you and sometimes he even came off as incompetent.

Overall 6.5/10

>>342118248
The Qunari make absolutely no sense anymore. I was fine with the design change to having horns and whatnot, I even played as one in 3, but they've been contradicted and changed so much across all three games that there's no cohesive logic behind them at all. They're like brainwashed Muslims that hate mages and other species and just want to enslave everyone with their weird religion/culture yet they support gays and trannies and their women hold all the power. It's a clusterfuck.

>>342117650
It 's been a while I played this but I don't remember any LGBT stuff beside the ugly elf.

>>342116768
gameplay can be fun. and it ran good on my pc.

but the story/dialogue is cringe. i played 20 hours before i uninstalled my torrent.

witcher is far better. i'd rather even play skyrim than DA I

>>342119221
Sera doesn't shove anything, she just says she is lesbian if you keep trying to ggo to bed with her.

>>342117367
>Best part of the game is riding a deer.
If only that deer would not fall from the sky and make all your companion vanish into thin air...

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>>342116768
check nexus for mods famq

>>342118641
Also, his Qun name is Hissrad, it literally means liar.

>>342117650
It is really not.
The worst thing I can remember is two people talking about how very okay it is to love who you love and that it really is okay, and isn´t it very much okay?

It is more of a case of badly written, slightly hamfisted implementation of "liberal" agenda that you would really not even recognize if it weren´t so incompetently written.

That and the qunari now suddenly being all women and men are so very equal, bro, when they had a very rigid view on gender roles before; but again, more a case of shitty writing/writer being aweful at implementing basically non-issues.

>>342119608
CUTE

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>>342119608
I never managed to make a qt.

>>342119215
They're supposed to be alien. Non-humans are inconsistent according to expectations of human cultures? Go fucking figure.

And actually traditional cultures DO sometimes have "blind spots" in terms of acceptance of "alternative" lifestyles.

>>342119804
Worst thing was if you had both Dorian and Bull on the same team and one wasn't romancing you they'd talk sex.

>>342119221
Sera was obnoxious in a lot of ways but her sexuality wasn't one of them. Even Dorian was fine.

>>342116768
Mage or Rogue.
Artificier for Rogue
Knight Enchanter for Mage.

>>342119035
The main villain was an absolute joke, but I felt it fitting for a character who kept declaring himself a god and whose plan was to walk into the Fade and steal it's power. It was hilarious how weak and stupid he really ends up being.

It's a very bland and dragged out experience. SJW pandering aside (it's not that bad unless you focus on it), the main story isn't very compelling, and the zones themselves are very large but mostly empty.
The most enjoyable parts of the game are the story events. I really enjoyed the whole Ball sequence. Siege of Adamant was legitimately very good, almost to the point that it felt like that sequence alone was made by a different studio.

I wouldn't buy it full price, there's no way it's worth that. 20 dollars or less would be an adequate price I think, if only because you can squeeze quite lot of playtime out of it. Or you could just pirate it, like most sensible people did when it came out.

The black city remains the most interesting mystery of all the games and I bet they're fucking never going to let us go there.

It was meh

The open world didn't add anything to the experience

They lied in the marketing that they're bringing Origins combat back, the tactical camera was so tedious to use

>>342116768
It's good, but nothing wows you like Origins did. I think it's a 7.5/10.
I liked Rogue.

>>342120306
if you're not romancing them and bring them with you enough they'll eventually fuck each other. i think it even changes Dorian's ending slides slightly.

it's alright, play it if you have nothing else to do.

>>342117924
>>Combat is pretty much the same as DA:O
That sounds like a good thing though.

I played it a little and the world felt so empty. Gave up after 8 hours

>>342116768
Why the fuck are we having this thread every day now?

if you do it play it, don't stick around in the Hinterlands trying to 'clear' it before moving on, you'll end up hating the game. do what you need to do there for the main quest, talk to the horse master guy if you want mounts, then leave.

Maps are pretty to look at but everything feels really lifeless. Like NPC not even moving around-lifeless

It's pretty bad. It starts out interestingly enough, and by the time you get to the big bad reveal a little way through, you think it's going to be an awesome game. Then it just completely shits it pants as a game and ends up being terrible.

Why it's bad
1. Slow whiffy combat that has no weight or threat or difficulty. You just spam your attacks and win eventually. There's no sense of urgency or risk, you just toss fireballs at the generic boxes of hit points until they fall over. Even the dragon fights are boring, repetitive let downs that you can solo if you pick the right mage prestige class.

2. Boring quests. It's just a bunch of MMO nonsense. Escort the buffalo from the woods to the farm. Pick 20 elfroot. Fight the guy at the place. It's all just a waste of time and doesnt affect the story at all. What little story content there is is gated by these dumb grindy little quests. If you just rush the main missions, the game is less than 20 hours.

3. The story. The main villain is incompetent. The only way he ever accomplishes anything is if you see the alternate timeline where he won. You then spend the rest of the game kicking his ass. The NPCs all act like hes a threat, but the story has, again, no feeling of urgency or risk. Who cares that he's going to release the demons or whatever? I've got 20 elfroot to pick. Oh, the demons? They don't do anything but dick around in woods and wait for you to kill them for more pointless quest points. It was all even more pointless because its revealed at the end of the game that he's not even the true villain. Buy the DLC that finishes the game lol.

1/2

>>342116768

If you start the game on Nightmare with all trials toggled on, prepare to get fucked repeatedly.

>>342119608
I can't find that mod on Nexus.
sauce please

>>342119608
>no mod to make viviene white

Dropped

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>>342116768
Why are you asking this here of all places? You already know what the answer is going to be. /v/ isn't able to have a civil conversation about Bioware games.

Personally I enjoyed it a lot. The gameplay might not be the best there is, but there are fun combinations and specializations. The plot might seem boring at the start, but it gets better as you progress and the lore is actually great. I suggest you to read the codex entries and talk often with the characters: there is more than the main bad guy you will see at a certain point.

The SJW pandering is minimal, don't listen to /v/. Dorian is a bro and you can directly avoid talking about Krem's special condition. There are references to raped women and they aren't held in high esteem as you would expect.

If you like it, play (pirate them or whatever) the DLCs too. They expand upon the lore and plot and Trespasser is actually the full ending of the game, setting the road for the next one.

I'm actually close to finishing DA2, and I actually kinda like it.

Maybe it's because I went in with no expectations and it being heavily modded.

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>Tfw you unironically loved it because you have a mental problem where you feel extreme empathy for everyone you meet and thus get invested in stories extremely easily regardless of quality, but still know in the back of your mind the game is bad.

It hurts.

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The main story individually considered is pretty good. Honestly. The writing is not too bad, it has some good setpieces, it does a good job of making you feel like a powerful Lord Inquisitor at certain points.

Until you reach what feel like little less than 3/4ths of the way through it, and it abruptly ends.

With no closure. In a very forced way, as if someone said "alright, time to end the game now that it's getting interesting". No tie in to about half the promises the game makes for you.

Storywise, it could have been amazing. But the lack of an ending kills it.

2/2
4. The characters. Most of them are interesting, but the LGBT pandering is absolutely ridiculous. Iron Bull exists to push BDSM tranny politics in your face constantly. There's a scene late in the game where you meet his soldiers, and theres this big reveal of his dikeish lieutenant as a transman. Your options are to say 'Wow, how stunning and brave." or volunteer yourself as a bigot and get a big long lecture from Iron Bull about trans rights. I wish I was joking. It's fucking retarded. Sera is an annoying abomination from start to finish. A gay mage joins your party, and he's ok, but his character questline is literally to go argue with his dad about how being gay is OK ("He just doesn't understand!!!!"). It's so unrealistic. Half the cast is gay. If you play as a straight male you have one romance option. David Gaider can't help but shoehorn this nonsense in, and in the end he had to quit tumblr to get away from all the shrieking gender harpies anyway.

There's other stuff. The crafting is pointless. The armor looks stupid. The homebase is cool but just an empty environment to walk around in. The inquisitor always comes off like a dumbass in all scenes. Theres some fun stuff in it, but man does it have a lot of problems.

Rant over

>>342118628
>>342117265

>Buy the game already
>THEN ask if it's good or not
>Not watching a gameplay video of it and make up your own opinion
>Not being around the time this game was developed and released

Summerfags might not exist but you sure are a newfag.

>>342123301
It's just autism anon

>>342123301
That actually sounds useful, I can barely get into many stories as is.

>>342119035
The main villain was stupid for a reason though: he is not the real main villain, just a red herring.

Initially he looks like he can actually damage you, then you are able to ruin his plans at every occasion, but that's because he never was the real bad guy, just an idiot who should have died, but didn't and acquired a source of power he couldn't even comprehend or use. A typical Tevinter magister mentally corrupted.

The Evanuris and Mythal are the real bad guys and Inquisition leads you to that conclusion with all the lore, clues, and hints scattered around, the Epilogue and Trespasser

>>342123129
This game youre some kind of general i think ? Can you lose the war ?

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>>342116768
It had the honor of being the first Origin game I refunded

And I enjoyed Dragon Age 2

>>342123009
She would look weird if she were white, you'd have to restructure her face as well, but what's the point since you can't romance her anyway.

Observe the amount of rehearsed opinions in this thread. Some of these absorbed opinions on the way to this thread, anon. I wouldn't trust these niggers.

>>342123320

>volunteer yourself as a bigot and get a big long lecture from Iron Bull about trans rights. I wish I was joking. It's fucking retarded.

Did you think Iron Bull was just going to smile and say okay when you insulted one of his people?

>>342123464
It's useful for playing vidya and reading but it's a pain in my ass most of the time. I'm almost incapable of saying no to requests, and I live in the city so panhandlers and beggars bleed me dry.

>>342123320
>Iron Bull exists to push BDSM tranny politics in your face constantly.
Completely false. I even unintentionally missed the tranny conversation the first playthrough I made, and that was one of the only conversations on sex stuff.

>>342123596
No. The "War Table" is not strategic. It's basically just an overwrought quest board where you can send your 3 lieutenants out to do missions that autocomplete after certain amounts of REAL TIME. Like "Go get the staff" takes 16 real life hours. Your reward is text and maybe some garbo item. It has no effect on the game otherwise.

>>342123596
More like a king.

>>342123596
You lead an ancient organization with the purpose of defeating an ancient magister who uses an elven artifact and his minions from Tevinter and those he corrupted (either mages or templars depending on your choices).

If you lose the war, the game ends, anon, like in the majority of RPG. You can be evicted from an important event, though, if you don't behave like you should and ignore your friends' suggestions.

>>342123939
You don't have a problem with empathy, empathy is good, sounds like you have a problem with just being a doormat.

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>>342123976
Pretty much. War Table is just another form of mission professions from TOR, except fluffed up and with better interface.

>>342123894
The dialogue option is like "Man? I thought you were a woman." It doesn't even give you the freedom to be a real bigot, just sets you up as the oh-so-ignorant foil to Iron Bull's enlightened virtue. It's really bad.

>>342123320
>but his character questline is literally to go argue with his dad about how being gay is OK

Dorian's dad planned to use fucking blood magic on him to make him breed an heir, it's a little more fucked up than what you're implying. Also, you can fuck Cassandra AND Josephine as a straight dude, unless her being bi means she doesn't count. you're 100% right about Sera, though, what the fuck were they THINKING?

>>342123596
not really, but every main story mission has a unique game over screen if you fuck up, giving a little bit of information about what happens after and some art to go along with it. some of them are pretty neat.

>>342123796
>much of /v/ didn't play it and are parroting meme criticisms, some of which ended up being false in the final game
That's true for a lot more than Inquisition.

>>342123976
like a facebook game or something?

>>342124056
Maybe. I don't really get the difference myself since one kind of springs from the other. I just hate letting people down or seeing them sad, so I try to do whatever they want to make them happy. I've been seeing a psychiatrist about it.

>>342123634
DA2 was fine, problem is its bad parts REALLY drag it down to the gutter. Recycled locations and horrendous encounter design being primary offenders.

>ANOTHER WAVE
>ANOTHER WAVE
>ANOTHER WAVE

>>342123995
I'm pretty sure cory chose the divine to crush humanity's faith or some shit.

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>>342123309
That's why they made Trespasser. That's the perfect ending for the game and it was finally written by someone else, Weekes, and not that hack of Gaider. That must be why it is even better than some parts of the main game.

>>342123320
>Iron Bull exists to push BDSM tranny politics in your face constantly.
I hate Iron Bull with a burning passion, but for the sake of fairness, this is not his function. His function is dragging down the entire concept of the Qunari as an inscrutable threat that worked so well in the previous games with his mere existence.

>There's a scene late in the game where you meet his soldiers, and theres this big reveal of his dikeish lieutenant as a transman.
And that's the only scene where this sort of thing happens, which undermines your previous point. And weirdly enough, it's like the writers had some sort of epiphany halfway through that what they were doing was garbage, and the game violently tries to bury that information as quickly as it can with "BUT THE REASON SHE HAD TO FLEE WASN'T BECAUSE MUH PREJUDICE IT WAS BECAUSE SHE TRIED MISLEADING THE MILITARY AND IT MADE HER SUPERIORS LOOK INCOMPETENT HONEST GUYS"

Inquisition is fucking retarded for having almost no romance options for straight males. Just Josephine and Cassandra, and while Josephine is actually a top tier waifu, you don't even get to see her naked.

>>342124378
this. the death of the divine, used as a blood sacrifice, would have weakened considerably the south of thedas (like it effectively happens) and corypheus would have conquered thedas more easily.

he didn't expect the inquisitor, though, so he wasn't able to pierce through the veil and enter the fade and in the end had to start all over again like he says at haven.

>>342124112
It's so stupid. It's an attempt to tackle the modern political issue of gay conversion therapy in a fantasy video game. And if you think about it, it's a really offensive way to handle a gay character. Here's Dorian--Tevinter magus, politician, TIME MAGE, NECROMANCER, adventurer and what's his personal quest? Not to travel into the past to discover forgotten lore, not to meddle in Tevinter politics--no. It's to go to a bar and argue with his dad about how being gay is OK. It's so stupid.

>>342123961
You weren't paying attention. He alludes to sex constantly. There's a whole dialogue about him getting fucked with a metal rod by tamassrans. If you have Dorian in your party long enough, they start talking about their Dom/Sub relationship. I think safety words are mentioned at one point. He doesn't shut up about it. The thing with Krem is just icing on the cake of how annoying he is. He's also the absolute weakest party member, so you can leave him at home.

>>342124428
>ending

you mean fucking cliffhanger because you still have work to do? bioware can fuck off with that shit.

>>342124435
>I hate Iron Bull with a burning passion, but for the sake of fairness, this is not his function. His function is dragging down the entire concept of the Qunari as an inscrutable threat that worked so well in the previous games with his mere existence.
Don't believe IronBull his Qun name literally translates as liar

>>342124428
I haven't played Trespasser, due to concerns with A - The fact that Bioware thinks it's okay the charge separately for the ending and B - It would involve playing through all of Inquisition again, and that is a loooong game.

But from what I hear of it, all Trespasser does is sap away all your political power by forcing you to either disband the Inquisition or see it become a haven of spies.

Hardly giving the player the option as shaper of empires that the game constantly tells you is what a powerful Inquisition can be.

>>342124523
Bioware cannot into sex scenes, so that's entirely okay. Josephine best waifu.

>>342124665
The inquisitor will probably just appear in the next game, there's no way you will actually be able to play with that character again.

>>342124832
Bioware cannot into animations. The more advanced technology they have to work with the more apparent it becomes. Those webms people keep posting are just the tip of the iceberg because the entire game is poorly made.

>>342123129
>civil conversation
By which you mean people agreeing with you?

>>342124665
Nigger you don't understand what a cliffhanger even is. The thread of Inquisition is tied up. Trespasser literally ends with the death of the Inquisition as an independent entity. Your character has a new task to carry out but it is a new threat separate from Corypheus and the plot of the game. It's totally acceptable for that to be a sequel.

If the game had ended in the middle of your conversation with Solus or when you're about to decide the fate of the Inquisition, THAT would be a cliffhanger because the story cuts off at a moment of imminent peril instead of resolving it.

I heard the reason we still haven't got see the Waarden again is because the guy writting is not the uy who created the Wardens and he hates them, is that rue?

>>342124662
Oh I was paying attention. It's not even close to constantly and a lot of those sex stories aren't about gay shit in particular, just generic promiscuity. This is obviously a thing for you and you're overly triggered.

>>342124662
>It's so stupid. It's an attempt to tackle the modern political issue of gay conversion therapy in a fantasy video game. And if you think about it, it's a really offensive way to handle a gay character.

And that's the funny thing. That idiot of Gaider couldn't stop advertising Dorian as the first gay character of the series - like, it was the only way he could describe him, so much that even the Tumblrinas got mad and told him to stop reducing him to a gay persona.

And as you said, his personal quest IS offensive: it's one of the reasons that caused Gaider to close his blog, because the fans continuously told him Dorian could clearly be more than that.

Fortunately his gayness isn't addressed anymore in the game and he actually triggers some quests to find Venatori enemies, help Minaeve in Tevinter and discover Corypheus' old identity as a human.

>>342124832
>Bioware cannot into sex scenes
The funniest part is how much better the SFM artists are than the actual Bioware employees.

>>342125172
I suspect that Gaider is attempting to work through his own personal issues with some of these characters. Weekes is so much better than him it's ridiculous.

>>342125132
The actual reason is that the Warden is a player-created character with no established voice and they don't want to step on how their fans assumed their Warden sounded. They'll probably never appear again because of that reason unless BioWare bites the bullet.

Though personally I think there should be an option when the Warden appears to just let the player turn the Warden's voice off and represent their lines with subtitles if players don't like their voice.

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>>342125172
Gaider is exhibit A why devs should not be allowed to interact with their fans directly and why CMs exist in the first place to moderate forums and speak on devs' behalf.

>>342116768
decent rpg with good combat but iffy story and cringey dialogue at times.

>>342124956
i don't know, they've been trying to make a Shepard character for Mass Effect since DA2. Hawke was supposed to be DA's Shepard, but everybody hated 2, so they pretty much killed Hawke in Inquisition so they never have to bring him up again. but Inquisition seems to be liked by Bioware fans, so... maybe.

i have no idea how the fuck they'd continue the story from Trespasser, though, and Bioware is probably too lazy to deal with special animations for the one-handed Inquisitor so it probably does make more sense to just have a new protagonist in the next game.

>>342125132
No, it's because the Warden doesn't have a precise personality like Hawke. People wouldn't recognize him/her and their immersion would be broken the instant he/she started talking, because it wouldn't be like they imagined it while playing Origins.

Also he/she was a mute character in the first game and that's another reason they find it difficult to include the Warden without enraging anyone. They already complained about their Hawke being out of character in some dialogues in Inquisition.

>>342125172
I think Inquisition is the most jarring example I can imagine of pre-release material screwing a game horribly.

Seriously, we had constant threads before the release laughing at how terrible the depiction of Dorian and Cole was. And the two of them ended up being probably the best companions in the game, along with Blackwall. Dorian in particular is probably one of my favorite characters in the franchise [although that's really not saying much] by being a Tevinter mage that both defends his homeland with actual fair points [for the setting], and not being cackling evil or a gay caricature [outside his sidequest, or so I hear. Haven't done that].

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>>342125404
He's infinitely more entertaining than his actual writing.

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>>342125458
>If you're a 2H user your Inquisitor just turns into fucking Guts in DA4
>My qt brown Inquisitor Trevelyan styling on Tevinter niggers with a sword bigger than she is and only one arm to wield it
You have no idea how badly I want this.

After having played Uncharted 4 recently, Dragon Age Inquisition's terrible animations stand out like a sore thumb. It's painful to look at. How is this acceptable? How is Bioware even still alive? All the old talent is long gone. If Mass Effect Andromeda has the same animations and shit, then it's just inexcusable since it's not even on 360 and PS3.

>>342116768
Large empty maps, simplistic combat, none of your choices have any meaning and the story doesn't pretend they do. Hope you enjoy spending hours filling out quest checklists for shit rewards like the autist you are.

As for characters, Dorian has the best romance, Iron Bull has the worst romance.

Origins >>> DA2 > Inquisition

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>>342116768

it's pretty shit. glitchy, hamfisted, ugly characters, hilariously bad objective guides, and very cluttered.

seems like most mechanics were though up during a kumbaya drum circle and then tried to get fleshed out when sober.

meh/10, good time waster

>>342125458
Actually they confirmed they already made some animations for one-handed characters, back when Bull was supposed to have one arm only

Also the Inquisitor clearly says it's still their mission and that they have to deal with Solas. Also those Lavellan who romanced him wouldn't let anyone else do the job, it wouldn't make sense.

The Anchor had to be removed for gameplay and plot reasons, but they confirmed they didn't do that to eliminate the Inquisitor, just to end his role (meaning he is just a normal guy again and not a political/important figure anymore)

>>342125706
Just send a letter to EA and tell them to force Bioware to make an entire game that is nothing but you sitting at a throne passing judgement on fools, because that was the second best part of Inquisition anyway.

Minimal animations involved.

Is there any list of must have mods that work with the newest version of Cisquisition? I had a pack of them I used when I last played but none of them seem to work anymore

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>>342116768
Everything is mediocre at best. At worst it is quite shit. You can play it once to see what its like but I for one have no desire to replay this shit ever again. Feels terrible when I loved DA:O and didn't absolutely hate DA2. Good lore ruined by shit writers.


Had some good music though. Outpaces shit happening on screen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV_4qssqfmw

>>342125590
>Colesteel

he really did turn out to be one of the best characters in Inquisition. probably because Weekes wrote him instead of Gaider. his personal quests were genuinely interesting, too, the whole human vs. spirit thing was neat.

personally, i didn't like Blackwall at all. didn't hate him, but didn't like him either, and i DID bring him with me sometimes. wonder if it's because i played a girl and every time i talked to him it seemed like he was dropping spaghetti everywhere.

>>342125706
Terrible animations don't mean shit nowadays. Look at Bethesda, they're bigger than Bioware yet their animations are still absolute dog shit.

>>342125748
If anything that just makes it more aggravating you couldn't romance her. I liked her character quite a bit but not romancing her was eased by the fact that I wasn't attracted to her.

>>342125458
Well, that and the fact that the Inquisitor lost his power which is what caused him to lead the Inquisition to begin with. I mean, sure everyone is likely still following him since he's a hero and earned their respect, but can't control the Fade anymore which just makes him an ordinary person now.

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Instanced zones with a bunch of lore and different biomes. Each has a dragon which rewards you significantly in terms of item drops and whatnot. The game in general has very commendable items and level scaling for them. Story is interesting. Characters are fun. I enjoyed playing rift mage. Dungeons are tremendously fun. Probably the best dungeons in any RPG game post 10's. An absolute pleasure to play in my opinion. The criticism it gets on this board is a result of the general hate for Bio-Ware. Anyone who played the game knows that whatever sjw movement you think the devs suck up to, is not relevant in the game and I have never been triggered while playing the game. Also, remember to take one of each class you are not playing with you in your party. Their class specific skills are necessary to effectively explore the world.

The descent DLC is an amazing dungeon.

>>342118194
>few and far between
>paedo stache's entire storyline revolved around his dad not liking he was a fag

>>342125940
When does that even play? I don't remember it at all. Problem is they seemed to have put the main theme tune in almost every notable song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I75LvXZV_jo

>>342125907
But they'd never let me pass judgment on the degenerates and women ruining the game though, so what would be the point?

>>342125979
Blackwall became infinitely more interesting during his personal quest, before that he was a bland Grey Warden that was there to appeal to everyone. I didn't care that much for him before that myself, at least after his quest he had more substance to him.

I liked how in Trespasser he went by his real name, not Blackwall like in the main game.

>>342125706
Non-autists don't really give a shit about animation.

>>342125979
I really don't think so. He was another "nothing he says makes sense" character just like Sera, except written with SO DEEP angle for emo crowd to get into. That can work, not but not when literally every single line he has is written in that identical style.

>>342125590
They really shouldn't have let Gaider talk so much pre-release. He just ruined the hype and altered people's perceptions of the actual game.

As >>342125314 said, Weekes is miles better than him: in those few interviews he did before the release, he actually talked about gameplay, the characters, the different settings without ever being cringey. They were fun to read and his characters (Cole and Solas) ended up being some of the best in the game.

That conversation about trannies you can have with Bull and Krem? Gaider wanted to include it. He wrote that part, that's why it's so jarring and doesn't fit at all with Bull and Solas' banters as they discuss Qunari society (which Weekes wrote).

It's not surprising that Bioware discreetly got rid of him and replaced him with Weekes as lead writer. You can see the difference just by playing Trespasser.

>>342117650
>The option is open if you want

OMFG STOP SHOVING COCKS DOWN MY THROAT YOU FUCKING SJW FASCISTS

Is any of the DLC worth it if I hated pretty much all of the maps in Inquisition?

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>>342126360
Blackwall's problem is that he's a relatively normal guy with a secret stuck in a party full of special snowflakes in their own ways. Like someone always points out, he doesn't feel like he belongs in DAI at all.

>>342126328
During the final mission where the PC shoves the Orb up Coryfish's ass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hRumpq0jX4

>>342125940
>music
There is only one [well, two] piece of music in the game that stuck to me, but it is goddamn amazing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0-cejhqJ1g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZbM-SwKxME

The fact that the second one plays as the closing theme for the best mission of the entire game certainly contributes.

Bioware may be a husk of a company, but she's still good at making setpieces when she really wants to.

>>342126610
Yeah Tresspasser is good if you're the sort to play through Inquisition.

>>342125628
Didn't he quit Bioware recently? What is he doing now

>>342126567
DA:O had gay characters, but they were never shoved down your face.

>>342126761
Hired by Beamdog for inevitable Baldur's Gate 3, much to everyone's despair.

>>342126610
Trespasser. it's basically 'new ending' dlc, and it also adjusts the main game because you get different gameplay options with your abilities. avoid Jaws of Hakkon, it literally adds another map.

>>342126686
He feels like he belongs insofar as these games almost always have one generic normalfag character, i.e. Avelyne, Wynne etc.

>>342125979
Blackwall was one of the best characters in my opinion. I almost always rolled a bro squad with him, Varric, and either Dorian or Solas. Shame that Solas was in fact not a bro in the end though

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Empty ass areas with nothing but fetch quest
Awful battle system
Non-existent quest design
Bad itemization, but at least that's on par with more of the genre nowadays
Really boring homebase, even fucking NWN2 did the castle better
Meh story with REALLY BAD villain and BUY THE DLC ending.

Overall it's one of the worst cRPG you can find, even fucking Oblivion or DA2 manage to bbe better.


>>342120306
Why is that bad?

>>342126872
>>342126759
Thanks. I'll get Tresspasser once I'm finished with Tales of Zestiria.

Mentioning it because it's pretty much "what if Japan made Dragon Age Inquisition"

>>342126610
Jaws of Hakkon, maybe not. The Descent is a linear Dwarf centric one so if you don't like linear then no. Trespasser basically is the actual ending to the game so if you wanted to get the full story and the conclusive ending to the game that one is a must.

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>>342126916
>tfw your friend was a literal god of betrayal

>>342126720
I love the game OST, the tracks are really good, but perhaps the one that most stuck to me is this one:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEt2PMk0lVU

It's just so magical and whimsical, I get shivers every time. It's even used against two specific dragons.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWCqF2IeKbk

I think Morris actually did a great job with the OST: it fits the game and he uses different leit motifs (Samson's Story can be heard in the Hinterlands, the Orlais theme you posted is used for Empress of Fire, the main theme can be heard subtly in multiple tracks)

>>342126849
Only time gay shit is shoved in your face is when Dorian and Bull chat about being butt buddies uninitiated. Everything else you initiate. Neither Sera nor Dorian shoved it down your throat, particularly Sera, and Dorian only to reinforce the point he wasn't going to breed any heirs.

>>342126916
>a member of the bro squad turns out to not be a bro and betrays the rest of the bros to be with his ho
Like pottery, really. Brings a tear to the eye.

>>342126720

I liked most of the tavern music, Empress of Fire the best until about 30 to 40 seconds in. I don't like it past that part.

>>342126686
Yeah, I liked Blackwall, he felt like a BG2 companions, before Bioware started to make all your party member special mary sues.

>>342116768
It's shit. It's complete shit. If you are interested in the story just watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5i-JipseZM&index=1&list=PLiWzMOLohpMkkQbPKb2px-0gOwFD3F7CO and spare yourself the time of slogging through the knee high shit of gameplay to get to the neck high shit of nonsensical story.

>>342118194
>"single player MMO" is a meme criticism
Are you retarded?

>>342127073
My favorite dungeons from Origins were the Deeproads and the Fade, it might be worth a shot. Does it have some interesting story or ruins to discover?

>>342127117
My favorite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs2r55kkobQ

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>>342117367
>>342117482
>>342117924
>>342117891
>>342119035
>>342124987
>>342125706

I'd love to see Bioware do a power rangers game, though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-2O1_1BmHE

>>342118825
>Sera is horribly written
Everything is horribly written. The entire game's writing is based off characters making decisions based off the players knowledge and assumptions, and not what any character in the actual world would know.

>>342117924
>Combat is pretty much the same as DA:O

It is not

>>342125172
>some quests
You call those quests?

>>342127162
>26 minutes video about DAI story

Kek, may as well just read a wiki entry, it's far less painfull

>>342127071
>spoiler

i liked Zestiria but it was my first Tales game. Mikleo is best girl.

>>342127117
>>342127270

They also gave Worst Grill quite a good tavern song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7Zkun0tJc4

>>342127386

Blackwall is a solid companion, and Rita Repulsa is actually an interesting take on mages after the clusterfuck that was DA2, but yeah.

Honestly, I don't understand why anyone would want to play DAI, when so many better stuff exist.

It has too much filler and not enough story

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>>342127270
>mfw when Lost Elf and Dark Solas started playing
>mfw I saw all those murals and secrets to uncover
>mfw you fight against the Qunari
>mfw you flood the Deep Roads and see them completely submerged if you come back
>mfw you visit the giant library and find all those hidden rooms full of treasures and secret codex entries

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AdZTBtzA4I

Say what you want, but that DLC and its music are fucking great.

>>342127558
I like Sera, bruh. She is childish, self-righteous and obnoxious, but i like her.

>>342127558
DA:I had great tavern songs.

>>342119608

Give mod list or sliders faggot

>>342127584
>Honestly, I don't understand why anyone would want to play DAI, when so many better stuff exist.

Because preciously few are the RPGs that give promise to give you you any shred of political power at all and the ability to wield it to shape the story.

That was basically my draw to it. And the sad truth is, there is nothing with that premise that I know of.

That's why I'm looking forward to the upcoming Tyranny game by Obsidian.

>>342127260
The Descent basically adds backstory to the dwarves. It's hard to explain anymore without actually spoiling it.

>>342127558

It is so jarring how she is portrayed throughout the game. Her model and lines are fucking cringey and awful to see/hear but her tarot cards are cool and the song is good. I know they wanted her to come off as like some eccentric/rebellious girl who is hot in her own way but her face..ugh.

>>342116768
>Is it good?
It's a hit or miss.

>Whats the most fun class to play with?
Knight Enchanter for muh battle mage
Rift Mage for obliterating enemies with spells

>Story is good?
Generally speaking, it's okay.
But you'd have to read a lot from the codex to understand what's happening if you haven't played DA:O and DA2.

>>342127584
I only want to play because I finished DA:O, Awakenings and DA:2. I want to see how the story progressed, but I have very low expectations after DA2. I need to get over it, but I'm still mad about how that game turned out

>>342127893
B-But she makes cookies, anon.

>>342127761

The nexus literally has that face uploaded with sliders and list of mods used. Probably even a save game for that character.

>>342127270
>>342127693
I hate you immensely, Anon.
You're going to make me play through all of Inquisition again just so I can play Trespasser, aren't you.
A thousand curses upon you.

>>342127893
her unfortunate face would have been excusable if her dialogue or personality had been good. you can't be ugly and a trash character at the same time, nobody likes that.

>>342127558
I was pleasantly surprised with how good this song was. Which just makes it even funnier that it's entirely about Sera, the most divisive party member in the game.

>>342127893
Really is a shame about the face because she had a great body and her voice has a sexiness to it that does come out despite the terrible dialogue she's given. The voice actress obviously tried to salvage it to no avail.

>>342127893
Not gonna lie, my enjoyment of Sera increased a hundredfold once I started treating her as a girl that was mentally handicapped.

Not even trying to roast her or anything, I honestly started enjoying her more once I just got in the mindset of "oh, look, it's Sera, she has a certain measure of brain damage but she means well".

Still didn't bring her along, sure, but I'd humor her occasionaly.

But don't play pranks on my damn soldiers girl, they're all busy trying to save the world and Cullen will blow an artery if you mess with him

>>342128028
If you completed the game, there is no need to replay it: if you have a save after the battle with Corypheus, the War Table should update and let you go through the time skip.

If you don't have that save anymore, though, then yes, you need to replay the game. Maybe that could be the occasion to discover/read more or experience it in a different way.

>>342128028
Why don't you just reload a save before Trespasser?

>>342127950
You will have some extra Varric, Morrigan, Hawke, Leliana, your son, Flemeth, Adamantine and Alistair(but he is shit in it). You aslo meet Alistair's mom

>>342128276
>>342128329
I might check of Origin still has my save in cloud storage, I've had to wipe the computer quite a few times between now and then.

>>342116768
single-player MMO

if you enjoyed garbage like FFXII and Xenoblade you'll love it!

>>342128518
>FFXII
>garbage
>[angry japanese screaming with dragon noises in the background]

Why does bioware always clearly make a race/gender that's always the main focus

for example, you had to be a human female and romance alistair and harden him to rule the land.

Dragon age 2 was male hawke with probably i'd say no romance.

in this one it's the elven inquisitor female romancing solas.

They always do this, it makes the game make more sense yes but it's heavily biased towards these world states.

>>342128421
I played them but I don't have my old saves anymore, so I can't see anything carry over. Maybe I should replay them again.

I don't care what anyone says, but the scene after Haven is destroyed and all the refugees are singing a song of hope as they flee into the mountains like a Disney musical was really inspiring and cool. I overall liked the religious themes in the game, playing as a Qunari gave it an interesting extra bit of conflict with everyone trying to reconcile their faith with my race.

>>342128682
You don't import your save anymore, you use the Dragon Age Keep to create world states for you.

>>342116768
It's very average.
Not as good as Origins, Not as bad as 2.

>>342128636
You don't have to be an elf to romance Solas, do you?

Also, screw romancing Allistair, being mage and human is quite enough, just give me all of Loghan's and Arl Howe's titles, lands and riches and we'll the debt you owe me for saving your entire damn country settled.

>>342128737

I keep saying this, few people seem to notice that Bioware is still good at crafting setpieces. It can't do choices, it can't do combat, it can't do animations, but it is still good at coming up cool situations to throw the player into.

>>342118628
How can you even discuss a game without playing it first?

>>342116768
I couldn't finish, yhe freeroam is just not fun and all the characters were annoying me.

But you should try it, it is way better than DA2, it is worse than ME3

This will never not be my favorite part of the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qJ2kiwwTMs

>>342128508

I was able to get my old save off of the cloud even though I played and finished the game literally within a month of it releasing. You have to install the game before it takes your file from the cloud. It didn't even say I had anything in the cloud until the game reinstalled.

>>342128916
Yeah, Solas refuses to date outside his race. Easy to see why in the end I suppose

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>>342116768
It's a fun game with your typical 'you become the one' Bioware story. I sank 100+ hours into it on release (without any DLC) but imho you gotta play it with a controller on PC, it has a weird default attack playstyle that feels good on controllers but horrible on keyboard + mouse. /v/ hates the game of course because it includes a gay wizard and it's developed by Bio 'LOL HAMBURGER HELPER' Ware, so it's off to a bad start by default. Honestly, why even ask /v/, you know what kind of answers you get.

>>342129096
uggh, what a shitlord

I hope they fix in in the nextone

>>342129024

I always found that scene to be cringeworthy mainly because of the awful bioware animations and how everyone somehow has great singing voices and the sound carries perfectly while everything else is dead silent.

>>342128916
Yes you do. Solas only wants to bone female elves.

I don't like Solas as a romance option desu. It was a mistake.

>>342128737
>>342129024
My niggas, this definitely gave me goosebumps when I saw it the first time. Maybe a cheap tactic, and a little cheesy, but it's a good song.

>>342129024
>Cole caring for the dying bastard priest that spends the entirety of Act I trying to undermine your authority but saves you all by the end

Goddamnit Bioware.

>>342129024
When it panned to Leliana I was expecting this again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA-rLV6hGY4

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>>342129294
>implying it's not the best romance in the game and the most heartwrenchingly beautiful of the series

>>342116768
>I see some good scores for this game,not that I believe them.

You're right, you should not believe them.

>what should I expect?

Bad animations, terrible dialog, worse writing, ugly and unlikable characters, shit gameplay, and visuals that look like everything is smeared with six gallons of vaseline.

>Whats the most fun class to play with?

Depends. What seems more fun to you? Standing in place spamming arrows, standing in place spamming a melee attack, or standing in place spamming spells? That's basically the whole game, by the way. Standing in one place mindlessly spamming attacks until the enemies fall over.

>Story is good?

The story is garbage. Nonsensical garbage. Worse than that, it's nonsensical garbage with a smattering of pandering bullshit.

Enjoy your buyer's remorse.

>>342129678
>best romance
I don't see you getting into a soap opera swordfight duel to win the hand of Solas in marriage.

>>342129769
You've given no indication you've played the game and a couple indications you haven't.

>>342129678
That's not Leliana and the Grey Warden. Leliana in DA:O is the GOAT waifu and best girl Bioware ever wrote. Josephine is a close second.

>>342129769
>everything is smeared with six gallons of vaseline.
Impossible. Vivienne's face alone takes all the grease simulation computing power available

>>342129615

Leliana was the only attractive female in the game and she's now ultra hardcore assassin lady who ain't got no time to fuck around.

>>342124523
Wasn't Scout Harding one too? Pretty sure my Inquisitor got some midget poon.

>>342129678
Considering the importance of his mission and who he is he shouldn't have been dumb enough to get involved with the Inquisitor. It doesn't seem right to romance him. Inquisitor trying to flirt with him but he brushes the attempts off? Yes, great. Him actually reciprocating? Now Bioware has created an awkward mess for themselves.

>>342130187
Morrigan and Harding were attractive. Vivienne was about as attractive as black women get without being half white.

>>342127193
It's clearly only ok if Nintendo does it, because X gets praised endlessly, and it's much more mmo than any other game.

People just lob generic insults, that could describe any game.
Like seriously what rpg can't be described as go here do this? Bioware has always had janky animations, but other than that no comment is particularly descriptive, even though there are legitly annoying issues with their combat.

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>>342129853
Josephine's romance is cute and adorable, I agree, but Solas' is on a completely different level and ties well into the game and his character development.

>if you romance him, he actually starts changing idea about his plans and wants to tell you everything
>he brings you to Crestwood, but in the end he loses his courage and quickly comes up with the truth about the vallaslin
>if you accept to remove them, there is one of the best romance scenes of the series
>that final kiss
>his despair if you pick the sad dialogue option and he says "In another world"
>in Trespasser you realize what he meant with that
>that final kiss in Trespasser

Goddammit Bioware, why didn't you let me go with him? You could do that with Morrigan in Witch Hunt. I want to reshape Thedas with my elf-wolf husbando

>>342130194
Yes, in the sense that she's not a true romance option and was more of a filler option if you didn't get yourself a real one. Like Kelly in ME2/3.

>>342130381

Yeah Morrigane is hot in a witch kinda way but she is also off limits. And Harding is hella cute but she's a dwarf and thus has a body of a stumpy man.

>>342130381
Cass was facially attractive, she just didn't bother with hygiene.

>>342130194
Isn't that only if you play as a Dwarf? And only culminates in the DLC?

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I played it a bit, maybe like 3-4 zones in total
Most of the sidequests are MMO quality, kill 6 of these, bring me 10 boar pelts etc

But the graphics are good. The combat was nothing extraordinary and didn't require any tactics like the first Dragon Age

Anyway this was my faggot character

>>342116768
Why is the PC always depicted as a warrior?

DA is best played as a mage. Objectively so.

>>342130240
Solas has been alone and treated like shit for thousands of years. Then the Inquisitor comes, treats him kindly, understands him, and even starts to flirt with him, a man who is just a hobo elven apostate with nothing to offer her. I mean, I would have fallen in love too.

Also your reasoning should count for Morrigan too: she is even more jaded and cynical than Solas, but they did a great job with her and managed not to fuck up the romance.

Solas' romance actually adds many beautiful nuances to the game and is one of the reasons DA4 is so requested by the fans right now.

>>342128636
My gay male elf couldn't fuck him. That was bullshit. Either gender or race lock him, not both.

>>342130432
Fag

>>342130808
Totally agreed. Played mage in DA:O and DA:I. My Hawke was a warrior though. The mage stuff is so prevalent and integral that playing anything else severely undercuts the story and significance of the choices you need to make regarding them.

>>342131093
2 had the best mage gameplay

fight me

>>342131185
>play 2 with 3 mages and Fenris
>enjoy the lightshow
The combat was a little to easy, but man was it fun to watch.

>>342128636
You can be the king if you marry the Queen QT, faggot.
You can tell allistair to fuck off.

>>342130432
It's not quite my cup of tea, but you keep doing you, Anon, I can see you're into it.

Although for such a major possible plot thread it's interesting how they chose to limit it to elves only, I'm sure more people play humans than elves

Are there any face replacement mods to make Sera not ugly as fuck?

>>342130808
DA2 had Mage Hawke as the face of the game, so that's something.

>>342130850
Morrigan was just a swamp witch with gigantic ambitions and a hidden heart (eg. her love for pretty jewelry). Not to mention her romance actually helps her further her plan in a way. She was normal compared to Solas, even if she was unwittingly raised for bigger things by Flemeth.

Solas in comparison to every other character in DA is like a fucking demi-god. Ancient, wise, powerful and has a plan that could result in the end of Thedas as people know it. Getting involved with the Inquisitor is folly that was doomed from the beginning. Not only that but that makes it incredibly awkward for the next game, especially since it's Bioware we are talking about. How are they going to manage a romance with the main villain of a game?

>tfw Leliana will never actually get to be with my Grey Warden again because they keep bringing her back to do spy shit, and now in my game, to lead the Chantry as Divine

>>342129279
>lé cringeworthy buzzword
I hope I will never lose the ability to enjoy things like you did

>>342116768

You will get bored of the Freeroam very quickly, The combat is repetetive and boring and the "Quest" is typical bioware "We're all retarded until the point where we decide to actually realise what's happening." until some arbitrary point.

Crafting armor and weapons is the best choice as the purchasable stuff is crap in comparison and the crafted shit breaks the combat.

All in all It's mediocre but then Inquisition seems more like a singleplayer game cobbled together from a planned MMO. So many grind and fetch quests that just have -Nothing- to do with anything.

>>342132318
She's still with the Warden as Divine, it's safe to assume they visit each other. IIRC she basically abolishes laws that forbid the Divine from being with anyone just so she can be with the Warden.

I'm still waiting for the inevitable Dragon Age game that reveals that Corypheus was right and it wasn't the Tevinter mages that tainted the Golden City.
And that it was the dwarves

>>342130154

I just realized that somewhere within Bioware's offices there's a programming intern super duper proud of how effective his grease processing algorithm was.

What is the best part of the game and why is it the Fall of Haven?
Everything past or before that part was meh.

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>>342132657
Dwarves are pure, you leave them alone. We all know who the real villains are.

>ITT: faggets and bioshills from tumblr come to defend the game
How can someone defend this?

I can clearly say that games are shit because of faggets like you, thank you for bringing me cancer.

>>342116768
>I see some good scores for this game,not that I believe them.
>Downloading it right now,what should I expect?
>not that i believe them
>Downloading it right now,
I really hope you pirated it.

>>342132747
That's not the Winter Palace Ball, Anon.
I'll agree though, the Fall of Haven was quite nice and I'm probably one of the two of three people in this board who likes Corypheus' character.
He had a nice commanding presence when he was on-screen, which is something no other antagonist in this franchise apart from the Arishok ever managed to have.

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>>342131915
Why should she be attractive? You aren't even really meant to like her anyway. Am I the only one who has his autism triggered by everyone being generically attractive?

>>342132637
Well, that's good, but still it's always just hand waved by going "he's off doing shit, I'll see him again eventually" and it makes me sad.


>>342132657
>An empire of blood mage slavers who having been dying to get into the Fade to claim power for over a thousand years
>good guys


Anon pls

>>342132026
>DA2 had Mage Hawke as the face of the game, so that's something.

Not really? everywhere it was warrior hawke

>really want to do the Templar recruitment mission instead of the Mage one
>always want to play a mage character for story reasons and can't really justify siding with the templars

my autism is ruining everything.

Why did you tell me it was shit, /v/?

>10 hyuge questing areas
>expand your influence for the glory of the inquisition
>old companions join your ranks
>tons of dialogue and backstory everywhere

I have 17 side quests and that's just in the first zone.

>>342132026
Solas wasn't born a god and he never wanted to be considered one. I can understand why you say he is different from Morrigan, but you can see how normal he is during Trespasser too: he hates tea, loves frilly cakes, is a nerd about the Fade and spirits and lives like a hobo because he loves wolves and nature. That's his real personality and persona and is clear he only wants to live in peace, it's even said in Trespasser by Cole and shown in the murals.

Also it's clear Solas is not going to be the main villain. He is just a pawn in Mythal's scheme of things and if you actually befriend him or romance him he doesn't want to destroy the world, he wants you to stop him. He is probably being forced by Mythal, since he took her soul/power/whatever inside himself.

Even Morrigan says in Witch Hunt that her mother is the true evil one and the one most related to the Blight. Trespasser confirms this: Mythal wants the Veil to come down to have her revenge (and she is connected to the Blight) and Solas has to oblige.

In the end, the true villains we will have to fight will be the Evanuris and Mythal gone insane.

>>342132960
>Winter Palace Ball
Please tell me you're baiting.
That's one of the most horrible parts of the game.
>everyone wears the same outfit
>dress clipping through you during the dance scene
>sleuthing section

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>>342133107
Wut. The cover art is Mage Hawke. The official trailers had Mage Hawke

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlACgYHtWCI

Where on earth did you see Warrior Hawke to?

>>342133284
*how normal he is during Inquisition, my bad

>>342132995
Why is Leliana so hot, tho? She wasn't that pretty in the first game.

>>342132837
>Darkspawn breed primarily in the Deep Roads
>The first Tevinter Darkspawn were only about 7 people
>Dwarves who show any interest in magic are absolute masters of the theoretical aspects of it
>The oldest known sample of Blight-infused Lyrium was found in an abandoned thaig that had been cut off from the world and erased from the Shaperate.

Face it Anon, there's mounting evidence that the Dwarves had contact with the Blight far before the surface did. Some dwarven engineer long ago probably decided it was a good idea to drill into the Fade [probably to figure out a way to give dwarves access to magic, who knows], then caused the Black City and the Darkspawn to first appear. Darkspawn keep infecting the deep roads, Shaperate grows desperate, and roughly at the same time as they lose control of the situation, Tevinters have the same idea, pierce into the Fade, find it already blackened and come back as darkspawn themselves. Bam, instant scapegoat.

>>342133284
>Solas hates tea, he's just like everyone else!
>He's such a nerd, always talking about "the Fade" LOL

Shut the fuck up, Solas. Mages are dangerous and deserve to be kept in check.

>>342133464

I...What?

is this bait? Or just ironic jokes? I don't even know anymore

>>342132960
Corypheus is an intentionally laughable villain. He's meant to be an easily foiled chump getting more and more butthurt about your character as the game progresses. He is actually a good villain for that reason since he's got everyone completely fooled about his power level. I like how he dies a broken little bitch with nothing.


>You wanted into the Fade, here you go!

>>342133493
A better question is what are you softening her for?

>>342133513
>>342133050

I'm not saying they didn't TRY, I'm saying they didn't get there first.

The Dragon Age games have some of the most extensive and well constructed lore of any fantasy franchise in my opinion. It's extremely well fleshed out. Bioware is still good for that at least.

What IS the Fade? Solas rambled on a bunch of boring shit no one cares about while I pretended to care

>>342133284
He absorbed Mythal only at the end of the game and even then he only gained her essence and her powers. He orchestrated the whole plot of the game, albeit slightly differently in that he didn't expect Corypheus to actually know what he was doing. You can't use Mythal as the excuse, he was doing shit before that scene and it was obvious they had the same plans.

>he doesn't want to destroy the world, he wants you to stop him.

No, he wants you to prove that he doesn't have to do it. But you can't because what he wants proven can't be done. He was going to do it no matter what.

>>342133628
not the previous Anon, but mage Hawke used bladed staves. trailer Hawke is definitely a mage, he just fights in close combat.

>>342133493
Leliana's looks are not why I fell for her, even as a redhead lover. It's 100% without a doubt her voice. The absolute sexiest voice I have ever heard in my entire life. I am in love with her voice actress and I don't think I've ever even seen a picture.

>>342133926
It seems to be the prison of the Elven Gods, basically

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>>342133513
Actually, it was probably the Titans. They are the source of the Blight, created to fight the ancient elves who continuously mined their bodies for lyrium.

>Titans create the Blight to counterattack
>Mythal seals them underground and severes their connection with the dwarves, who lose their ability to cast spells and dream
>any reference to the Titans are erased from the Shaperate and dwarves forget about their protectors
>they are sealed underground with the Blight stuck there with them and the dragons Mythal most likely put down there to use them as a bait for the first darkspawn
>meanwhile the Blight that Andruil brought on the surface is bringing ruin everywhere and the Evanuris insist to use it
>also they are mad as fuck because Mythal cut off their source of lyrium, so they kill her
>Solas finally acts, both to revenge his mom's death and save the elves from the Blight and the Evanuris
>he locks the false gods away with the Blight in the Black City (Arlathan?), thus causing them to live "an eternity of suffering"
>creates the Veil so they can't ever leave the Black City/Fade
>everything goes to shit, but at least the Blight is locked away
>millennia later the seven magisters pour it back down on Thedas and everything gets even shittier
>darkspawn manage to reach the dragons and corrupt them and people kill them every time they resurface, thus lowering the number of "baits" underground
>this is why, as a dwarf says, the Blight seems to originate both from the Fade and the Deep Roads

It's like poetry. Also Thedas is going to ruin and the Veil was never supposed to exist. It's time for a change.

>>342133628
Depends, are you bait or have you not played the game?

>>342133926
A different dimension/plane of existence that intersects with the mortal world where spirits and demons live and all races except dwarves connect subconsciously with it in their dreams. It is where magic comes from and was actually physically separated from Thedas by the Elven gods which took away the Elves immortality and power.

This game doesn't make any sense

I WANT to root for the mages because it seemed like they were being unfairly persecuted. Yet they're so fucking dangerous and always conniving it's like every where you turn there's just some asshole apostate who wants to torch the planet.

They make the Templars look like Nazis when they're trying to keep them in check. Of course not all mages are like that, which leads me to ask

Are mages the niggers of this universe?

Got the game for 6 dollars on the E3 sale.

OP I'd say this about it. For 6 dollars, I feel I got my money's worth. The game ends abruptly, and the dlc isn't worth it.

Knight-enchanter is broken as fuck, set it up right and you can solo the game.

>>342134553
i thought that was elves and mages were gays.

>>342134553
Mages are tied with the Qunari for the muslims of the Dragon Age universe.

>>342134356
>>342134091

oh yeah, I confused the armors and the stupid blade staff thingy. My bad.

>>342134553
Both the mage rebels and Templars fighting them are assholes who deserve to be wiped out. Both sides are dabbling in evil shit and whatever righteousness either had in their causes is long lost by the time Inquisition starts, which is why the opposite of who you choose to support joins Corypheus.

>>342134709
The mages don't come even close to the Qunari though. If anything mages are the jews, powerful and deeply mistrustred, while the Qunari are the heathen invaders who control a vast empire across the sea.

>>342132459

How the fuck can you take that scene seriously when everyone is walking around like waddling ducks who have to take a shit and their facial expressions all distorted because of shit animations? I can deal with awful animations because most of the time they're just goofy and funny to look at like the scene where you kick the assassin out the window but when you try to apply it to a scene that is supposed to be serious and emotional, it just ends up looking like SHIT. And this is coming from someone who put over 100 hours into the game and enjoyed it for the most part.

>>342134553
They're both assholes and I wish you had the choice to wipe them both out.

If Meredith never got her hands on that red idol the Templars would have objectively been the best choice in DA2 hands down. The mages were fucked up from the beginning.

>>342134553
I will never not be mad at Anders for kicking that bullshit off. That character was far worse than Sera. Even Dorian would call him a faggot and mean it.

>>342135225
Anders still makes me rage. The thought of people keeping him alive makes me rage. Bioware did do a good job of making me hate him, I'll give them that.

>>342135225
I wanted to side with him. Both DA:O and DAII did a good job making me want to blow up a chantry.

>>342130426
I hate DA:I and Xenoblade X. They are both barely RPGs, but DA:I I'm not even sure I would call an RPG. Sure it has numbers, but character building is basically non-existent and conversation is so sparse you can't really role play either. Fucking Destiny and the Divsion are better RPGs if all it takes is a bunch of floating numbers to be considered a role playing game now.

DA:I is a shitty game, an insult to DA:O, and somehow a fucking downgrade from DA2. Fight me nigger.

Freddie Prinze Jr is Iron Bull. Not negative I just had no idea for the longest time. I liked the game.

>Anders is literally a terrorist

Mages are the muslims of the universe

So who's Trump?

>>342135613
He was also Biff McLargehuge in Mass Effect 3 and voices Kanan on Star Wars Rebels. All pretty good characters desu

>>342135613
It'll blow your mind when you find out who voiced Vega then.

>>342123394
damn..
I abandoned this thread since I got few opinions and was pleased with it.But you? filthy cocksucker calling me a newfag and point being I didn't look gameplay videos first and havent been around in the time it was developed? That the proof of how new i am? is that it?
People like you make me sick,spent few months on /v/ starts calling people newfags for stupidest possible reason.Neck yourself you cheeky lil cunt.

>>342135197
in the mages defense, they haven't really had GOOD representation since Origins. Irving and Wynne despite her spirit infestation were good people. Morrigan was kind of shady but she never did anything evil. pre-Justice Anders was great.

but all the mages in Kirkwall were batshit because Kirkwall, even and ESPECIALLY the party members, and Fiona and Clarel were FULL RETARD in Inquisition. Dorian is probably the most decent mage rep we've had since Origins and he's from fucking Tevinter. Vivienne is interesting but still shitty representation, being a mage who climbs the political ladder while supporting the system that oppresses her would-be rivals. not even going to get into Solas. gods don't count.

>>342136164
That's what I mean by they were fucked from the beginning, Kirkwall is crazy town for mages. It was the Templar's war to lose which they did the moment Meredith went batshit insane.

Viv and Dorian were the best mage party members since DA:O, agreed. I think Viv is good representation just because she shows another side to mages. Vivienne had Wynne's point of view in that the mages should stick with the Chantry and the Circles but she's a lot more ambitious and selfish. I liked that, she made mages seem a lot more relatable by just being a uppity bitch instead of being down to earth or batshit crazy like the other mages. It reminds you that all mages aren't the same.

>>342117265
/v/'s opinion is that it sucked, has a bland story with shit shoe-horned characters. Combat is barely amuzing, areas are boring.

>>342116768
I finished it OP.

It's a good game that purposely makes it self shit.

The writing is horrid all over the place, but just enough surfaces to let you know it is shit on purpose. There are some good quests and dialogues that only further evidence the discrepancy with all the shit writing there is.


The levels are beautiful, giant, and well crafted, only to be filled with Ubisoft collectaton shit and no depth or interesting encounters aside from the Dragons

The characters can be interesting at times, and even funny. The second you think "maybe they were exaggerating" they become shit and tell you to check your privilege. It's stupid and most of the cast acts like a twelve year-old it's dumb.

You get a kickass castle that just falls from the sky in a fucking cutscene and initially looks like it's gonna be the best shit, only to be filled with nothing and getting 3 "upgrades" that really don't make shit

It's forgettable anon. But you'll get your hours worth out of it

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>>342137064
I fucking hated Vivienne. And Orlais in general. Feminist propaganda country. Made Gaspard Emperor just to spite their MUH MATRIARCHY bullshit.

>>342137064
Wasn't Kirkwall a giant experiment from the Tevinters? The whole city was made in the form of a rune and drives people crazy, or did they just retcon that from DA2?

>>342126686
> Like someone always points out, he doesn't feel like he belongs in DAI at all.

God, I'd rather play the game he does belong in instead of the special snowflake hugbox hour that this DA3. Bioware, for fuck's sake, I'm trying to save the world here. Can you not saddle me with all your SJW social outcasts and let me team up with the strongest people in the land for a change? If you have to do lengthy, retarded loyalty missions where I bend over backwards to appeal to petulant manchildren, my noble cause is probably better of without them in the first place. The fact that we're saving the world should be enough of a motivating factor.

>>342138159
From what I remember the Veil was incredibly thin in Kirkwall so mages were the most susceptible to crazy shenanigans. It's also why there were so many demons around. I can't remember why it was so thin though, I thought maybe it was built on top of something or the Tevinters planted shit everywhere. You're probably right in that regard since I can't remember why. I definitely remember the thin Veil though.

>>342137064
i do agree with you on Viv. personally thought she was an uppity bitch and didn't like her much, but she's definitely an interesting character to have. if she'd been a boring and nice pro-circle mage she would have been as boring as Blackwall was in my opinion.

also in my opinion i think Inquisition had great mage party members and terrible warrior ones. i never really liked Bull or Blackwall. Cassandra was... decent, but she had the shittiest warrior spec. the mages and rogues were just more fun to have around, except Sera.

>>342116768
>Is it good?
It is. Don't expect a 10/10 but expect a big game with lots of things to do.

>Whats the most fun class to play with?

Mages.

>Story is good?

It's the only No Good thing this game has. The Main story is shit, everything involving your squad and your people is ok.

The game is intended to be the first part of a new saga.

>>342116768
If you want to beat any fight on the hardest difficulty be a mage and make your subclass a mage knight or whatever it was called i just know its not necromancer or riftmage

Should I side with the mages or templars?

>>342138620
Sera wasn't that bad in the field. Give me Sera any day over Varric. I have honestly barely played with him bar his specific quest, he's easily my least played party member. out of everyone. Whenever I need a rogue I either go for Cole or Sera. Varric was just not interesting to me at all.

>>342116768
I had fun and I actually liked the story a lot. The combat is kind of bad and the romance options for a straight guy boil down to Cassandra being the only remotely viable choice but the loot and crafting is excellent and I am a complete sucker for that shit. Dragon fights are also really fun. I played once as a two handed soldier and once as a bowman, the soldier is easy throughout, the bowman is actually kind of hard at first but after you get the best skills you just fucking destroy everything. My brother played as a magician and it was cheap as fuck, you just put up your shield and use one move that does damage and repairs your shield may faster than anyone can deplete it

>>342116768
NIGGA YOU FUCKING KNOW WHAT /V/ THINKS OF IT.
DONT YOU FUCKING START A THREAD TO SHITPOST ABOUT A 3 YEARS OLD GAME.
EVEN IF YOU ARE NOT SHITPOSTING YOU ARE STILL A RETARD FOR ASKING ABOUT A GAME YOU ALREADY DOWNLOADING AND CAN TEST OUT YOURSELF!

>>342139020
it doesn't impact as much as you'd think it does. the mage quest gets you Dorian earlier and involves time travel, the templar quest gets you Cole earlier and lets you meet one of the better NPCs in the game who you won't meet otherwise. siding with mages means you'll see Samson from DA2 more in the late game, siding with templars means you'll meet new bitch Calpernia instead.

sidenote: siding with the mages is the only way to meet the king or queen of Ferelden in your worldstate. if that's important to you, pick the mages.

The game's alright. Has fun customization. Riding Harts is cool. Story is sub-par, but it'll keep you entertained.

The companions aren't as good as Origins or Mass Effect 2. Specializations are universally subpar. Rogue gets only 1 good spec, and that's Tempest. Mage gets an incredible spec, Knight Enchanter. Warrior specs are decent, with Templar standing out a bit. Most fun class overall is Two-Handed warrior. Mage and Rogue have some neat tricks as well, however.

Dorian is a bro, make sure you get him. Sera sucks. Never get her. Progressiveness abounds, but most of it is easy to ignore. Overall, it's okay. It might strike your fancy.

>>342139020
Do you like special snowflakes who everyone pities and are constantly victimized because of their dangerous potential? Go for the mages.

Do you like die-hard religious soldiers who fight for what they believe in even if they become monsters in the process? Go for the Templars.

Do you hate both? Pick whichever one you think has the better playstyle for your game. Who ever you don't choose will be your enemy, think about that.

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>>342131185

Inquisition had the Arcane Knight and that shit was fun as fuck.

>>342139279
What's wrong with Josephine?

>>342116768

Garbage game


Prepare to uninstall in less than an hour.

>>342138159
>>342138606
Incredible thin Veil caused by massive numbers of blood sacrifices. The town also had a geometrical layer/map, full of hidden runes, and some walls and floors were so dirty with blood that they were still faintly stained despite numerous attempts at washing them.

It's common theory that the city was where Corypheus and the other magisters held their blood ritual to enter the Fade: that's why the Veil is so twisted and frail there and the city looks so "artificial". It was a giant catalyzer.

>>342139865

Actually, you still fight both regardless of what you choose. There's just more of one than the other.

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>>342116768

The character creator was pretty good.

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I once bought that when I was drunk.
Started playing it the next day and.. well I hated it. Its clunky as fuck. Typical cookie cutter characters that bioware always has. One dimensional boring as fuck sidekicks and all that. I played it for maybe 30hours which is pretty long, but about 20 of those hours felt like torture.
I really tried liking it, probably trying to fight buyers remorse, but after 30 hours I just couldnt anymore.

Its so middle of the road, so neutral and boring.
The story had some nice elements to it, but it was always ruined by something. Like that awkward singing part. It made me cringe really hard. Its so hamfisted.

Its not all that bad if you want to play a boring singleplayer MMO, but if you are looking for something interesting its really not the game for you.
I tried re-installing it recently and play it again, but ended up uninstalling it after just about an hour into it. Remembered why I hated that game so much.
Bioware cant make anything interesting anymore even if their lives depended on it.

>>342140135
>that plastic shine on the skin and armor
Why do "realistic" games keep doing this?

>>342139869
>DA:I
>Be casual scum and play on normal difficulty
>Pick Knight Enchanter
>Unlock the magic sword
>Proceed to slice my way through every encounter

That sword was fun on Normal. Is it like that on harder difficulties?

>>342140135
hey that looks like every other character I saw in the /vg/ dragon age threads. its limited and shit. Its not good.

>>342140338

It's fucking Daenerys dude.

>>342140292

Pick up the staff that acts as a greatsword for more fun.

>>342129024
People hate on this scene but after playing for twelve hours straight, walking through blizzard and shit this scene gave me more hype than all of witcher 3 (witcher is a better game and I played it five times as much but I wasn't really emotionally invested in most of what it had to offer)

>>342140292

It's more than fun. You can solo dragons with that sword. And comboing freeze + explosions + magic sword made me feel like fucking Gandalf.

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Anyone bought GOTY version? I want to buy DA:I, but I don't if all those fucking DLCs are worth it.

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>>342140338
Maybe a lot of /v/ just has the same taste

My gf gave it to me for Xmas and i dropped it after 2 hours. The stupid whiney banter between party members got really annoying. That would usually be something could get past if the gameplay was good, but it's not.

Seriously who thought it would be a good idea for parry members to whine about their feelings every 20 seconds while you're trying to explore. Haven't played it since

>>342140654
you might hate the game, but the DLC is a "must" at this point. The endings and such can be affected by some of the DLC, quite heavily so.
I dont recommend the game at all, but if you are going to get it, get the whole thing. Like most bioware games, it isnt "complete" without some of the DLC

>>342140654

Both the DLCs are arguably better than the main game, in typically Bioware fashion. The Descent is a bit short, but is fun and actually rather difficult.

>>342140768

Wellcome to every bioware game.

>>342140292
>>342140571
didn't they nerf the magic sword?

>>342140654
you need at least the Trespasser DLC for gameplay + story reasons. Descent if you like dwarves, but it's just a dungeon crawl with some new lore. Jaws of Hakkon can be skipped.

>>342140883

They made it require a charge that builds as you do damage. Without charge, it does crap damage.

However, one casting of Energy Barrage fills it up almost to max, and that's enough to finish most encounters.

>>342140883
>Jaws of Hakkon can be skipped.

Jaws of Hakkon had interesting lore, though, and it was focused on exploration, I think he might like it. The new location was also quite good and there were interesting tidbits of history. I wouldn't discard it like that.

>>342139718
>>342139865
Why can't they settle their differences and work together for a common goal? I don't like either side but I have to choose.

I want to pick Templars to romance Cassandra, and I think the mages need to be protected, if not from the themselves.

But then my mage allies and Varric will be pissed, I don't meet the King, there's no winning.

But the Templars self righteously abuse their power

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>>342140838
>>342140839
>>342140883
Fuck. Well, thanks for the answer.

>>342130426
That's because X actually has some depth to its combat system as well as a well-designed world.

>>342141051

Wish you could destroy both, desu. Circle of Magi is a really stupid idea.

>>342116768
Does it run better than the Witcher on ps4? Also which has better combat everyone?

>>342141213

They both have shit combat.

>>342140883

It was made into hot garbage but easily my least used spell from my most used. It was OP before but now I use more spells from other schools than my KE tree. I don't even get distortion field anymore and only get the KE passives for sustainability. Only thing good about Spirit Blade is that it is unresistable which is how you'll be doing much if your damage against enemies in nightmare with trials on since many of them are outright immune to elements. Still, I love it when I crit some fucking array fire mines for like 20k a hit. Shit is glorious.

>>342141051
Ally with the mages, but make Vivienne Divine then. The Circle will be restored, but she will control the Templars and won't let them take power again or torture the mages.

Also you will be able to marry Cassandra (some players ended up seeing her become the Divine) and the companions will acknowledge that at least you freed the mages at first.

She and Cassandra hate each other in Trespasser, though, and Vivienne is objectively the most ruthless Divine

>>342141051
Because both sets of groups are full of childish retards. Plus classic Bioware conflict writing.

>>342141042
I forget about Hakkon's lore when I think about the DLC. It's actually pretty lore heavy, especially the main plot line of the DLC. Problem is that's it's only good for lore, IIRC it's not relevant to anything that would happen in upcoming games.

>>342132995
>Why should she be attractive?
Because then she would have at least one positive quality and I might actually take her in my party every now and again.
As it stands, she has no positive qualities at all and is a waste of space.

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>>342139979
Is Josephine the Indian chick? She just wasn't sexy at all. Literally just a normie 5/10 girl. I'm the fucking Inquisitor, I can fuck whoever I want. Why would I choose an average chick? instead I played a conniving elf bitch who unintentionally looked something like this and led on Blackwall for half of the game and then changed my mind to the nice blonde guy.

>>342141369
Well no point in playing then. I put up with the combat in the Witcher series for the story but SJW AGE ain't worth it.

>>342141469
Seriously. Cole is just infinitely better than the other Rogues.

>>342132995

She doesn't have to be attractive.

She has to look tolerable. I shouldn't cringe every time she makes a facial expression.

Also, why would I pick up a character I don't like? I routinely just ignore the quest to even get her at the start.

>>342141432
>IIRC it's not relevant to anything that would happen in upcoming games.

I believe all those hints at spirits and how complex they actually are (despite what the Chantry wants everyone to believe) will be quite important in the next games, since ancient elves seemed to be able to turn into spirits or at least to "cast away physical form".

Also Ameridan had a spirit companion who knew how to stop time (something related to the ancient elves' ability to stay immortal), but it's still a total mystery who this spirit was.

You can also find a Forgotten One's claim (the Evanuris' "adversaries") there, which hints at the true identity of the false elven gods and how involved the Forgotten One were with them and with the Temple of Solas'an in the Forbidden Oasis. So I'd say it's actually an important DLC, if played well.

>>342141695
The SJW bullshit is a minute detail. The Tevinter mages/Grey Warden stuff and Orlesian Civil War stories are actually pretty great

>>342141423
making Vivienne the divine seems like such a huge mistake. clearly the 'bad' option, even if it is kind of a bitch to get her on the throne.

>>342141928
No. I have spoken. Be gone chunky chink china man.

>>342141928
nah, there are comments about left wing ideals all over the damn place. Shit is not just social politics anon kun.