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BLUNDER OF THE CENTURY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Lx wyJq920Q

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BLUNDER OF THE CENTURY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LxwyJq920Q
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TEN YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT
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>youtube comments already have people defending this garbage
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>>315370665
>"""walking"""
>he's actually running
>even sprinting from time to time
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>>315371309
its like their faces have a coating of cooking oil or something on them
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Fallout 4 is garbage but people like you are the exact reason why.

The reason why every game Bethesda has ever made sucks fucking ass is because they feel the need to create 1000000000000 kilometers of map, but the only have content worth a shit for 10 meters. You have no actual incentive to go around exploring, because 95% of what you look around for isn't worth the time it takes to get there.

Morrowind is the game with the least of this problem because the map is way smaller (the smaller of all the Elder Scroll games) but it's still a bit present there.

New Vegas tries to use clever design to basically force you into a linear path while pretending it's an open world game. It still suffers from having to be open world and exploring outside the box they set you to explore sucks.

Fallout 4 is garbage for many reasons, a smaller map is not one of them. Stupid faggots.
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>BIGGER THAN SKYRIM
>BIGGER
>THAN
>SKYRIM
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>>315371420
>>315371309
In a way these faces are less appealing than 3/NV. How the fuck did they accomplish that?
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>>315371420
that FUCKING face gets me everytime
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Seems the same size as 3 and NV anyone know if it's actually bigger than those?
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>>315370665
I'm probably going to get Fallout 4 eventually, but I'm not here to go full on Bethesdrone defend mode on it.
However, if it takes 11 minutes to RUN from one end to the other, that honestly doesn't seem too bad. Since the player was literally just running basically in a straight line.
If you take that 11 minutes to run in a straight line from one side to the other and add up all the other sections of the map where you'd run from one side to the other, it would take a big chunk of time to explore the map fully.
Also Bethesda games have a lot of interiors which add a lot more space to explore.
Again, not a Bethesdrone. I thought Skyrim was fucking terrible. But this video is clearly misleading. Especially since it says 'walking' when the player is clearly running at full speed
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>>315371718
I remember seeing somewhere that is is bigger than the two of those, probably on the Bethesda Twitter
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>>315371629
>less content is a good thing

This is how stupid you sound. Fuck off shill.
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>Its bigger than skyrim's map and without the mountains!

What about all that fucking water?
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Seems about the size of the Fallout 3 map except it's easier to move across it because you can sprint in this game
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>>315371860
Well technically he didn't lie.
Todd is a master at telling vague truths
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The terrain is more flat, plus you can sprint in the game.
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How mad are you guys gonna be when this sells a billion copies in a day
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>>315371983
how can you hate if you haven't even played it yet huh mr negative?
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music sounds great tho

reminds me of oblivion
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>>315371698
i saw a deathclaw in FO3 at around level 3 or earlier

it's at the super duper mart as a random encounter
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>>315371856
You're a fucking moron.

Empty space isn't fucking content. If you go play through Skyrim or Fallout 3, you'll have 90% of the "content" being empty space and 10% of the content being actual fucking content.

And now you're crying because the empty space isn't big enough.

Again, Fallout 4 will be garbage, but having a smaller map will probably make it less garbage than the other Fallout games past 2 and any of the Elder Scroll games.

Fucking plebs.
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>>315372040
Not even slightly mad because I'll be one of those who bought it.
Can't wait to come back to /v/ after a week or two of playing it to still find at least 5 shitposting threads
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>>315371983

Holy fuck is that where those spyro yugioh card faces comes from.

That's disgusting

All these years
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>>315371637
is it though?
how long does it take to traverse skyrim.
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>>315371983

Can you stop cheating? You need the cards to summon this.
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>>315371637
It probably is. As someone says in the video comments Skyrim forces you to go around mountains to get anywhere
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>>315372126
what a weak stomached girl you are
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>>315372181
>Have character move at walking speeds

Look guys the map is one hour long!!
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>>315371637
Its the same size or slightly bigger.
You just move slow as FUCK in Skyrim/FO3. Even Skyrim's horse is slow as fuck. Plus Skyrim has a mountain or two in the center of it.
>>315371420
Can't defend those garbage character models. The skin looks all fucked up, the facial animations are fucking awful or poorly animated.
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>>315372094
The injured deathclaw near the corpse ?
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>>315370665
Epical pwnage by Mr.M in the comments.
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>>315372101
This, and this is why something like...hell even the first Witcher wound up being a much more memorable experience despite having limited area and being budget as fuck. The devs were aware of their limitations and chose to work within a restricted area. The area is smaller, and less "content" some would say, but it winds up being a far superior product and experience.
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>>315372303

Spyro 2 is one of my childhood favorites. Sorry for being disgusted by such a terrible depiction of such classic characters
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>>315372310
>skyrim takes 14 minutes sprinting.
fallout 4 looks bleak as hell though with no enemy encounters or random events.
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>>315372335
sorry, i remembered things wrong.

it was a deathclaw corpse

i think i fought a yao guai in that location though
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Not really feeling the setting and atmosphere desu
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>>315372346
Go back to youtube, metokur.
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>>315372346
Are you really shilling your own comment?
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SKYRIM STAMINA

ARE THEY FOR REAL
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>>315372101
>shilling this hard

You can stop anytime.

There's literally zero reason they couldn't have made it bigger and added more content to fill in the empty space. Even the next Call of Duty is going to have more content than this, which I think I'll be preordering as soon as I cancel the one I have on this abortion.
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>le epic foor chan youtube comments
>le based gaber gummy jim

this is the face of /v/
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>>315372315
>>315371637
>>315372181
I looked it up, supposedly it takes 30 minutes to traverse Skyrim. I should run a test myself, but either way, the mountains can only add so much time more. And having obstacles preventing you to go in every single direction and never hit a wall is certainly more interesting design than being able to go anywhere without having to even think about your route.

>>315372346
>>315372459
>>315372464
>Mr. TheEssJayDoubleyus won shilling his own comment
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>>315372523
what's the alternative?

no sprint?

i'm pretty sure it's draining AP, just like project nevada
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>>315370665
>walk the entire map
>dont encounter any enemies

WHAT THE FUCK?!
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Why did they get rid of the cool HUD from 3 and New Vegas?

It looks so bland now
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Wheres that webm of the dude's lip sync from the game opening? That shit was terrible.
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>>315372612
> 30 minutes
no 14 minutes
https://youtu.be/0oaFf2sAS68
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>>315372358
Exactly. Witcher 1 and Witcher 2 are a million times better than Witcher 3 because they didn't do the Open World bullshit.

>>315372551
>There's literally zero reason they couldn't have made it bigger and added more content to fill in the empty space.

YOU MEAN DESPITE THE FACT THEY HAVE PROVEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN THEY ARE FUCKING INCAPABLE OF DOING THAT? HAVE YOU PLAYED ANY BETHESDA GAME EVER?
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>>315372563
Might have something to do with the video being uploaded by a fellow /v/irgin and it'll be taken down very soon, so not a whole lot of outsiders can comment.

>>315372523
To be fair, sprinting was a nice addition. But it's ripped out of Skyrim that's for sure. Not sure how they'd go about improving it though?

>>315372676
He encountered a few, but none actually stalked him more than five meters. Wow, the dangers of the wastes. Thanks Todd.
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>>315371687
No they aren't. Have you even played 3/NV unmodded recently?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l82rkfeWlFU
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Who the fuck seriously wanted that bullshit builder mode?
That is my reason to blame for them not spending time on everything else. That and also I feel the game seems rushed. Should have waited another year.
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wasnt it supposed to be 3x the size of skyrim?
todd has been scratching his belly all this time?
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>>315370851
>tden years
what did he mean by this?
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>>315372840
Stop shilling your shitty channel
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>>315372731
Ah, you're right.
>Not sped up, you're looking at about 14 minutes, with sprint on for about half of the time.

And this is with him traversing the mountains even. But to be fair, just walking around the mountains in Skyrim made the game feel a lot bigger than it really was. Boston doesn't have that, so everything is going to feel fucking tiny. I don't know, I feel mountains add a lot more in terms of land to travel.
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>>315372853

No what Todd meant was you would be able to cross the map 3x faster than you did in Skyrim due to how small it is.
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>>315372850
Fucking this. This builder mode is literally the most useless feature in the game. I bet raiders wont even try to invade your shitty fort, except for one or two quests.

It would be neat if we could make a city like megaton and get the option to move the npcs to our town after we complete their sidequests, though.
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>>315372853
No, he said many times it's more or less the size of Skyrim, with more content, and technicaly mor surface because there are no mountains.
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OP's shit will be down within the hour. here's the re-up.

http://a.uguu.se/nusimz.webm
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>>315373205

Is Todd really yanking them down that quickly?
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>>315372732
It shouldn't be unreasonable to expect improvements from a company after being in the business for decades now. I'm tired of excuses, the fact of the matter is that they're just lazy, and this is proof that the video game industry is literally declining when things should be advancing.

I mean fuck, I'd take Daggerfall's world over this at this point, at least it took longer than 11 minutes to traverse.
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>>315372101
Tbh I thought f03 and skyrim had reasonably dense maps, with lots of enemeies and locations around. Especially compared to something like just cause 22.
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>>315373295
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Just cause 2 sorry
:^)
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>>315373242
yes, it'll be pulled down from youtube, dailymotion, vimeo etc etc within an hour or two.
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>>315373290
You completely misunderstand, I'm not trying to excuse Bethesda's bullshit.

I'm saying that, among many of their ways of making their games actually good, they should have the map be even smaller than the one in that youtube video and have it filled to the brim with content worth a shit.

Instead of spending 8 minutes to walk by a place to find one quest that is boring, badly written and not worth your time, you have quests everywhere in a smaller tighter area that are actually worth your time and fun.

Bethesda's mistake, from the get go, was in being obsessed with the concept of Open World, when it never had the resources to accomplish it. It's just a marketing buzz. "SEE THAT MOUNTAIN? YOU CAN CLIMB IT", when you actually play their games it fucking sucks.
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>>315373129
it doesnt look like the same size as skyrim, at all
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>>315372346
did you really just write "epical pwnage"

what year is this
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He didn't even run from one corner to the other. He literally fucking stopped like 60% of the way, and i'm pretty sure you could do the same fucking thing time wise with f03 and nv.

But thanks for the video link op that entire thing convinced me to buy it honestly. Don't really get all the asspain about it other than /v/ always shits all over any bethesda product and then ends up playing the shit out of it.
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All true Fallout fans knew it was gonna be a step backwards towards 3.

Bland, almost all enemies and no actual storytelling besides the main quest and a few select side quests, and of course GUISE I CAN SHOOT LAZERS MORE FLUIDLY NAO OMG GOTY!!!

For some reason this game reminds me of The Pitt, seems more industrial, and I hated The Piit with a passion
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>>315373587
>60%
anon he walked until invisible walls stopped him
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>>315371729
Oh, fuck off Bethesdrone. 11 minutes is barely anything. There are games with opening sequences with more than 11 minutes of walking.
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>>315373587
The map size seems okay, but you know what I'm more worried about, look at how many locations we saw. Maybe 3 cities? Most of which were just enemies and mostly blocked doors?

It's Fallout 3 all over again. Shoot raiders and mutants and follow the on-rails questline and then you drop the game because Bethesda can't make a fucking game worth playing more than 15 hours
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>>315373587
He also sprinted through shit instead of walking
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>>315373587
He stopped 60% of the way because the rest of the box contained was fucking water.
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So instead of mountains wasting space, we get unexplorable buildings wasting space
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>>315373742
You actually have to discover locations and not just walk from one corner to another anon.
And nobody knows how many dungeons and vaults there are to explore
>ZOMG EMPTY WASTELAND ISN'T BIG CANCELLED PREORDER
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> taking 95 around Boston to get down to the cape instead of taking 93 through the city

That's understandable. Don't see why people are making a fuss.
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>GTA is more of a roleplaying game than Fallout now

lol 2015 just needs to end
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>>315373985
I hope the cape is in a future expansion, I love going there every year and it would be cool as hell to see it in Fallout.
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>>315371629

You haven't even played yet dumbfuck
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>>315373965
I didn't preorder this game because it's made by one of the worst current developers, they have taken all their IPs and fucked them all by pandering to action fans and marketing their bad games instead of making good ones

Have a great time spending 60+ dollars to play something for 10-15 hours and then getting bored because Bethesda markets their failed products to dumbasses like you
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Oh god, I thought F4 was map sector coordinate.
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>>315374092
and then a Woodshole sea exploration expansion dlc
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>>315373987
B-but now we can shoot without VATS! A-and...um...SPECIAL was overrated! I would rather have this streamlined dialogue too, Bioshock:Infinite is one of my favorite games of all time!
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>80% of map is literally empty
>the other 20% is just enemies that immediately aggro, chase after you, then give up if you run away for a few seconds

So it's exactly like Fallout 3. People like this?
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>>315372346
the comments to this post are hilarious
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>>315374167
>I didn't preorder
It's ok anon. 20 million normies probably did and will be having fun instead of being a contrarian shitcunt nitpicking about everything.
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The map is the same size as Skyrim. You guys will fucking turn anything into a big deal if it gives you something to shitpost about.

What really gets me is the god awful textures. Why do the buildings, especially houses, look like they're made of cardboard? Skyrim definitely looked better than that. Hell, I think even FO3 looked better than that.
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>>315373585
Yes, as a joke. Usage of that phrase should have made it obvious.

But on /v/ everyone is too up their asses to recognize jokes.
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>>315370665
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvFnQTQrd-Y
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>>315372412
In what dimension does traveling Skyrim take less than a half hour
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>>315374320
20 million copies of Skyrim sold. I think they've found the right formula here.
>>315374359
>why make buildings that look like they're made of cardboard
probably because they are made of cardboard considering it's after the nuclear apocalypse.
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>>315374320
If you go on sites like Reddit and Youtube, the general consensus is that Fallout 3 was better and New Vegas was "boring" probably because it didn't have enough enemies to shoot, and people LITERALLY say that exploring the train tunnels was one of the best parts of the game for them
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>>315374428
If you run from one corner to another it does.
Also the run speed in skyrim without potions/horses is like crawling.
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>>315374348
Go eat shit, millions of flies are doing it happily.

A fool and his money are easily parted, and surprise, most people are fools who buy into bad marketing like you
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God, I can't even fucking go on video game forums anymore because all you fucking morons do is COMPLAIN, CRY, AND BITCH about every little fucking thing. Nobody just fucking enjoys a game for what it is anymore
You're the shit stain of the gaming community, and boy, is that shit stain one hell of a streak
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>>315374428
This one. See >>315372731
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>>315374419
Not trying to sound like a shill, Im not buying fallout, but I'd rather fallout with some more enterable buildings than GTA's big map with only certain shops and the beginning of a police station enterable
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>>315374483
>New Vegas was "boring" probably because it didn't have enough enemies to shoot

I bet the same Redditors praise Undrtal for allowing you to kill no enemies.
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>>315374449
>probably because they are made of cardboard considering it's after the nuclear apocalypse.
You have to be trolling here, there's no way you're serious

I knew old /v/ has been dead for years, but I refuse to believe people with taste this bad come on here
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>>315374547
>go eat shit
No anon, I'll be enjoying my cool game on release though :3.
You can eat the shit with the rest of /v/ because you don't like delicious jam donuts.
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>>315374483
>walking through linear grey tunnels filled with ghouls and super mutants you can kill by pressing a single button is entertaining
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>>315374568
I understand. But 2 hours is till 2 hours. Lel.
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>>315374564
Yeah if you fucking walk over every mountain like that. I dare you to follow the roads and routes and travel Skyrim in under 30 minutes
>protip: you can't
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>>315374558

>for what it is

That's the thing, we are critiquing it for what it is. An uninspired, lazy, insulting cash grab. It dumbs down the series even more. Why even have perks at this point, just make the entire game going through corridors and shooting mutants while the game gives you high fives the whole time.
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>>315374558
>omg u guys said a game is bad :((((
>I-I'm in on the latest anime shows, guise! I'm trendy with my le so funny xddd picture of shit la shit right??????
neo-/v/, please go
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>>315374625
>I refuse to believe people with taste this bad come on here
>muh graphics and textures
>Wow Bethesda games look ugly
>2015
>still complaining about this shit
Never ever change, moron.
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>>315374449
Cardboard chalk-colored to look like wood and bricks. Gotcha. You're an idiot.
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>>315374651
2 hours of what though. I'm kind of sick of open world games with a lot of just nature that you can't really do anything in. It doesn't help when you also can't go in most buildings. Idk, I'm just tired of open world games not trying to make worlds more realistic in being able to go in places
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>>315374558
>lets blindly eat the shit they give us
not all of us are fucking sheep that follow the shills.
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>>315374547
That can be said about EVERY game you dislike.
I bet you're a sonnyger that enjoyed tumblrborne :^)
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I liked the lightning. It sounds cool.
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>>315374558
>enjoy a game for what it is

Easily my favorite videogame damage control meme of all time. Yes, why isn't the world enlightened enough to enjoy such classics as Superman 64, Atari's E.T.; a huge smash, and lest we forget Big Rigs which is the worlds foremost shipping truck simulation.

I hope Todd Howard offs himself after this glorified Fallout 3 mod (now with Disney™ art filter!) completely flops tbqh
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>>315374712
>I was just pretending to be retarded!
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>>315374730
have you even seen how buildings in the 50's were painted you stupid fucking asshole?
I know you're a contrarian but please think a little before you post.
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>>315374558
>Nobody just fucking enjoys a game for what it is anymore
>for what it is anymore

we're discussing what it exactly is, a half-assed casual shitfest
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>>315372346
Dohohoho
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>>315374483
>>315374650
I have to agree with reddit about the subway thing here. Exploring the subways was one of the most memorable things about fallout 3.. and if you're not playing on very hard, you're doing it very wrong
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>>315374802
You niggers really are the most stupid negroids in the world aren't you?
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How are people playing the game? Could this just be a shitty demo build from months ago?
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Am I a crazy person for thinking 10 minutes is pretty damn okay for an open world map.

He's walking across it in a straight line the size of his character model. Like holy shit. If it takes that long to go as the crow flies then I can't imagine how much stuff is in between and behind doors.

I just think its weird and short sighted to judge the amount of content based on how long it takes to run from corner to corner, by that logic it only takes 6 hours to get across the USA. so its actually a small country.
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>>315374676
I could most certainly cut across a select corner of the Skyrim map exactly like the guy in the FO4 video did in the same amount of time unimpeded.
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i'm still gonna buy the game and try to enjoy it. i'll let you guys know if it's actually shit or not. bunch of fucking retards saying it's bad before it's even released

don't you want it to be good? why would you put it in your mind that it is disgusting before you even taste it
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>>315374679
That's not what I'm saying. What I mean is that every popular game comes out, and this entire board comes here to only say negative things about it. On most of the boards I've been on, every popular game is utter shit because
>muh graphics arent 4k ultra realistic 1000FPS
>gameplay isn't realistic hurr durr
>story is too short/long

All I'm saying is, do people even enjoy playing video games anymore?
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>>315374769
I don't even own a PS4, nor a PS3 for that matter

I've bought plenty of games, and every major Bethesda game in the Fallout/ES series. Each one has been worse and worse, with the exception of NV which was developed by Obsidian. Bethesda has been really going downhill, and I was incredibly disappointed with Skyrim like many others
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>>315374747
>I'm kind of sick of open world games with a lot of just nature that you can't really do anything in. It doesn't help when you also can't go in most buildings

You have a quarrel with limitations then. And which group has been limiting everyone for a long time? :^)

No but, I feel you mang.
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>>315374993
>why can't everyone just eat garbage and not ask any questions? just enjoy these shitty games

you're a huge faggot
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>>315374984
Because I have eyes and I can see it. It's not as big of a 'bait and switch / fuck off' as the Aliens Colonial Marines, but it's still a slap in the mouth.

Lazy devs shouldn't be rewarded when twelve slavs with a potato can make visually impressive games.
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>>315374907
popcorn.gif
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>>315374747
This. I used to love open world games but now I'm just kind of sick of running through empty, mostly boring deserts/wastelands/forests.
MGSV would have been better linear.
Bloodborne is goty
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>>315374962
Yes, yes you are. That's so small compared to other games' maps. Hell, the area of Fallout 4's map is roughly half the area of Fallout 3's, and I thought Fallout 3 felt small.
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>>315374962
It takes much longer than 6 hours to get across the USA on foot. Fucking Bethesdrones BTFO.
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>>315374993
>What I mean is that every popular game comes out, and this entire board comes here to only say negative things about it.

>Things that can be patently proven untrue for 500, please

What is The Witcher 3, and MGS 5 before people got to the end and realized it was a half assed cash grab just like FO4 will be, Alex.

>All I'm saying is, do people even enjoy playing video games anymore?

If criticism triggers you this hard, consider getting your reviews exclusively from the christian gaming review network. True objectivity in the eyes of the consumer and our lord. God bless.
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>>315374993

sure anon! here are some games I am currently enjoying:

BloodBowl 2
Dota 2
CS:GO
Undertale
Path of Exile

In fact, some of those games are abject shit, yet I still enjoy them (looking at you, CSGO). Heck, I'm even excited for battlefront! Egads!

But F04 still sucks
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I hate the hud. It's so overwhelming. It looks like it war ripped from a mobile game.
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>>315374947
Pretty sure those buildings are not made out of cardboard. That would be structurally unsound.

Furniture nowadays is made with a material fairly close to cardboard, but much more dense.

Architecture? No, and I'm pretty sure any house made of cardboard besides a shanty would collapse
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>>315370665
>InternetAristocrat having a hissy fight with a brony in the comments

Champion of /pol/ and /gg/ everyone
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Fallout 4 is a blunder, but 11 minutes is a long ass time so I don't get this
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>>315373963

no such thing
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>>315374962
>by that logic it only takes 6 hours to get across the USA. so its actually a small country.

Okay, this has to be a troll.
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>>315372551

Mayne if they had another 7 years to fill the map up with content. All open world games suffer from lack of shit filling up the empty space. Fallout mgsv and Witcher 3 all have copy pasted encounters and ruins to fill up their empty maps. Shit sucks. Fallout 4 will be a bad game but open world games benefit from smaller maps.
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>>315375204
Well drop a couple of nukes on them and see how they turn out you stupid nigger.
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>>315370665
I know /v/ loves bashing on anything and everything but this video is sorta getting me a bit pumped, it seems as if they went with the point lookout art-direction for the wilderness and I loved that shit. It's too bad that it'll be small and won't have as many quests as you'd like but I'll definitely pirate day 1
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>>315375289

Yeah Fallout 4 will be shit for other reasons (like the fact it's basically skyrim with guns and doesn't really qualify as an RPG anymore), this isn't really a great complaint
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>>315370665

>The mods will fix it!
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>>315371729
Youre being rational. We dont take kindly to rational folks in these parts....
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>>315375289
>open world games benefit from smaller maps.
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Still buying and gonna enjoy the game.
You elitists won't ruin my experience
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Why is fallout so popular? Every time I've played a fallout game it's been a really mediocre experience.
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blyat gde stream?
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>>315370665
It might just be the youtube compression, but this seems really comfy honestly.

Still, the animation, graphics and taking 11 FUCKING MINUTES to walk across the WHOLE MAP is inexcusable.
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>>315375479
It's a huge RPG. People love RPGs
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This game looks like dogshit and there seems to be no redeeming qualities.

>Map looks barren
>Fps gameplay looks terrible
>Graphics and animations are trash
>Voice acting is shit
>The dialogue wheel is atrocious

I can't think of anything that I have seen so far that makes it look like it's worth a purchase.
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>>315374962
>Am I a crazy person

No, you're correct. Every open world game I can think of, except for a select few like Just Cause and Dirt which are enormous but empty, would probably take that long. Or even less time.

It's pretty jarring to turn the view distance in Morrowind way up and actually see how close all the landmarks are to each other. Same shit in most of their games.

But OP probably knows that, he just wants to shitpost because it's currently trendy to shitpost about Fallout 4 on /v/. There ARE legitimate problems to complain about, but this isn't one of them.
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>>315375479
Because other people dont think the experience is mediocre.
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So...would you all have preferred a Just Cause 2 map with copy/paste strongholds?
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>>315375479

did you play the first two?
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>>315375474

Still going to stick this fork up my ass, I don't care what modern medicine says!
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>>315375186
>Cs:go
>Dota 2
>POE
Are you bored out of your fucking mind playing the same game everyday?
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Come now, voice acting is pretty good. There is actual emotion in their voice this time around.
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>>315370665
Guys. 11 Minutes is a LONG time, especially while sprinting. Several people who have the game early have stated that there is so much to do on the map that everything feels massive. baka. So many haters in the comments.
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>>315374953
this guy was streaming a cracked pc copy
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>>315370665
You do realize that it doesn't take long because, unlike other Bethesda games, there are no bullshit annoying mountains that you have to walk your ass around?
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>>315375561

I tried a bit of 1 but I didn't really get into it either
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How come all the footage is from Consoles?
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I'm glad this game will get GOTY and you circklejerking >tfw no gf
tards cant do anything about it
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>>315375654
No it's still terrible, just because it's better than the older Bethesda games doesn't mean it has good voice acting it just means it's better than some of the worst voice acted wrpgs of all time. .
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>>315375615

that's why I play with friends, anon.

Although yes sometimes things get stale but that's not a complete list of every game I enjoy. Some people find grinding competitive games enjoyable, you know.
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>>315374558
what does it feel like to be a mindless consumer with no sense of choice or preference about the products you purchase

Did you wake up a faggot today, or did you have to work on it?

Unless troll, in which cause I give 3/10 apply yourself
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>>315375715
Maybe RPGs isn't your genre, just play anything else
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>>315375562
This
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>>315375718
it's not they're on pc....
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>>315375691
>shad_dogmeat.png
reallynow.jpg
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>>315375771

Most of the conversations are pretty casual anyway, so I think the voice fits. Whats a game with superior va to you?
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Wow normies will play this but not "neko neko I want to be the desu dance academy 5" truly Japan is the last bastion of gaming
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>>315375691
What about all the buildings dickface?
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Why /v/, why?

Why did fallout 4 have to be shit?

There's nothing else to play until DE:MD or Bannerlord which aren't coming until late 2016...
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>>315370665
what the fuck am i looking at? you walk around is consider blunder? enlighten me
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>>315375875
Witcher series, Mass effect series, Dragon age series and that's just a few wrpg series.
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>Walking across F4 in 11 minutes
>Spends half the time sprinting
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>>315375898
>>315375756
>Tumblr tier comments
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>>315370665
https://youtu.be/hLadRkjbXSc
West doesn't even try.

>>315375898
U mad westabo shill?
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>>315376015
Don't you know? Literally everything in any game is now the blunder of the century! Now back to tumblr or reddit with you!
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>>315376004
The Division looks good
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>>315375936
Mountains have really wide bases. They're cone-shaped. Buildings have roughly the same perimeter at the bottom as at the top.
Think before you speak, faggot,
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>>315374558

first day on /v/ champ?
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>>315376085

Wow sorry you have shit taste, Japan offers only the finest gaming cuisine, and I'm afraid you won't be chowing down any time soon...
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>>315376067

I think you are confusing voice acting with script. Have a good day.
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>>315376119
:^)
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>>315375530
Fuck off. People like to pretend they like rpg but when they come across an rpg with actual difficulty and reading they get turned off. No, people don't like rpgs. They like pretending to play rpgs which are actually action games. Why else would quest markers be invented?
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>>315371629

what a faggot. you're the reason developers don't try as much anymore. stop complaining and enjoy something for once!
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>>315376117

WHYCOME THIS GAME NOT MY PERFECT DREAM GAME THAT'S IN MY DREAMS CANCELLED PREORDER HOW DARE THEY RELEASE A FUN GAME FOR EVERYONE WHEN ITS NOT EXACTLY AS I WANT IT REEEEEEE THEY LIEEEEEED.
Every retard who plays video games these days.
They'll still buy it or pirate it they just want to make themselves feel better for not paying for it
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>>315376015

>casual detected
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>>315376220
>wow how dare these people hate my game, which happens to be western
>SURELY THESE FUCKERS ARE DIRTY WEEB [email protected] FANS!!!!!1
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>>315376273
>Why else would quest markers be invented?
So people know where the objective is?
I enjoy RPGs. Immersing myself into a different world and being someone different. It's fun
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>>315375848
Not that anon, but I think it's still being played on a console. We all know you'll be able to play it with a gamepad but why wouldn't you play it with mouse and keyboard if you could?
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>>315376119
Fuck off ubisoft
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>>315374778
<3
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This wouldn't actually be a problem if the intermittent locations were interesting, which they very probably wont be.
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>>315370665
Man I wish i was as fit as him

>sprints
>stops and exhales once
>suddenly calm breathing
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>>315374558
At least you picked the right girl to shitpost with.
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>>315376384
What? Don't tell me /v/ hates the Division. What's wrong with it? I genuinely think it looks like a fun game
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>>315376336
I am forced to shed my kigarumi to debate you dear friend, I am very much against this casual western garbage, but it is clear you do not understand we are two brothers of soul! Nyaaroon~~
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>>315376373
Yes so immersive to follow the big arrow and play ups courier. Fuck off troll.
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>>315374962
You're on /v/.
People just want to hate on Fallout 4 because they're contrarian faggots.
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>>315376439
After watch dogs no one is falling for the same trick twice
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>>315376461

What games do you like then anon that doesn't have things like maps and objective markers?
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>>315376223
You cant be serious, right? Listen to the voice acting in the clips posted in /v/ and compare it to the games I listed and there is a massive difference in the tone and how the voice actors carry there emotions. Va and script go hand and hand retard but keeping defending your precious game.
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>>315376461
I mean if you really wanna be that ultra realistic, you can turn off the entire HUD in a majority of games. At the end of the day, it's just a video game, not a second fucking life
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>>315376439
the division looks like fucking dog shit, 20x worse than fallout 4.

there is a 0% chance you're not just shitposting right now. bye
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>>315376440
Are you upset because Bethesda can't make a decent video game, friend?
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There is nothing there. Not one interesting local. It's just barren empty space with rubble and swamps. I think I might move on from vidya for good
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>>315376547
Except for second life shit for brains fucker
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Did they not pass a single enemy? or at least have a enemy blip appear on the compass?
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>>315376520
Understandable. Personally, I'm buying it and I'll try and out. If I don't like it I'll sell it to my nephew
Fuck me right?
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I don't think that eleven minutes to cross the game world is particularly bad, and even the water I don't hugely mind, since there was a lot of dogshit useless space in Skyrim/Oblivion.

That said, the people talking about this on Youtube/Reddit are possibly the most pathetic fans out there.

>>315375340
>DIO'smanor.jpg
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>>315376534
Plenty. If i have to tell you maybe you should play more games that aren't all AAA trash
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>>315376585
But look at the abandoned homes! The empty cities! That Yao Guai was totally epic! Did you see that Bloatfly???? Talk about sick...you can make your own guns too!
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>>315376380
I was on a stream earlier and the guy was playing maxed out on pc If you see any videos that has a man who look's like Johnny from the room as the pc then that's confirmed to be pc on ultra.
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New vegas would be around the same time, if they didn't have mountains and invisible walls you couldnt pass.
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Name a better RPG released this year

>inb4 people unironically compare The Witcher 3(1 dimensional action RPG) to Fallout 4
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>>315372294
oh boy
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>>315375848
>On PC
>Always using gamepads

I don't think so.
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>>315376547
>I want to be a braindead role player
Why even play games?
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>>315376570
How dare you accuse me of siding with them?! I am only trained in real games such as "I want to be magical ninja girl dreamer" and "young man, poses the soul to vanquish your own foes!" You western shills will grasp at any straws, but here have a smug anime pic to keep you warm nyaroon~~
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>>315376561
>the division looks like fucking dog shit
>the division looks
>looks
You haven't played the game. Your opinion is invalid unless you actually have a reason why it would flop
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>>315376538
The few lines we've heard in F4 are better than most lines in the games you listed. ME is amateur tier btw.

Just because you have shit taste doesn't mean everyone else does.
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>>315376538

If the script was more embellished you'd be literally playing a premade character. Cracking funny one liners while shooting would be fun for a while but they would lock you into being some B-movie action hero. They were trying to keep it more impersonal, which is a difficult task.
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>>315376678
Undertale.
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>>315376614
Your nephew did nothing wrong you faggot. Why must you do such a thing to him.
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>>315376678
Bloodborne, maybe?
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>>315376678
uh...was Pillars of Eternity this year or last? Been a rough decade for rpgs
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>>315375186
those are all shit
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>>315370665
JUST
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>>315376752
This has gotta be bait.
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>>315376678
>"Name a better RPG released this year!"
>"lol inb4 people do exactly what I asked for"
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>>315376678
Divinity enhanced edition
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>>315376732
So I guess nobody's allowed to play video games and just enjoy them? They have to be ultra hard core and play with no context, help, or information
Ok
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>>315375691

oh shadman
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>>315370665
>walking
>running

pick 1
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So how long does it take to sprint through the other Bethesda games?
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>>315375690
Theres goes my optimism.
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>>315376749
the classic shutdown.

>b b b but you haven't played it !!!

I guess we can't tell if fallout 4 will be bad either? since none of us have played it. fallout 4 looks fucking great guys!

"inference literally doesn't exist in my world!"
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That green area has me curious with its irradiated lightning strikes. Might have to pick up the game just to see what that's about.
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>>315376868
>appealing to extremes
Nice try faggot. How Underage are you that you forgotten that games have existed before quest markers? Did you forget about baulder's gate?
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Well, how long does it take to walk across F3 or NV?
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It takes like what an hour to walk straight across Vvardenfell?
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>>315376961
That games not actually an RPG it's a DNDRPG fucking dumbass
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>>315376935
There's a difference here, there's literally gameplay you can watch and determine for yourself if the game is good.
You still haven't given me a good reason as to why the Division wouldn't be a good game
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>>315377031
Weak b8 try again
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>>315376387
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>>315377031
CRPGS were the original RPGs, friend
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>>315377053
Easy. It is made by ubisoft. That is all you need to know.
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>>315376961
Jesus, I'm not a neckbearded loser. I just play games and have fun with them. Is that so fucking bad?
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>>315371729
ayy
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>>315377059
>That games not actually an RPG it's a DNDRPG fucking dumpass
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>>315376780
Sure thing buddy.

>>315376798
Not comparable to Fallout 4 as an RPG

>>315376812
>isometric generic fantasy D&D
>in 2015
Yeah, no.

>>315376864
>isometric in 2015
>can barely change your character's appearance
Try again.
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>>315376961
Baldur's Gate isn't open-world so it's easier to find things in it.
Morrowind is a better example.
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>>315377053
You still haven't brought any ammunition to this argument, you're just a stalling, shitposting retard.

I say the game looks bad based on the content they've shown; your response is "wait till you play it first".

You automatically lose this argument. Thanks for conceding.
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>>315376591
this made me laugh so hard idk why
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>>315376678
>he thinks Fallout 4 is going to be a deep RPG
>he thinks Fallout 3 was a deep RPG

Try again anon, try again.
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>>315377134
>that one kiddo who hates D&D style games because he's 20 or younger
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>>315377235
That one kid who brought a gum to school
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>>315377123
There is no need for pretense here on 4chan. Saying you aren't a loser doesn't make you not a loser. In fact it is pretty pathetic to call another person a loser on 4chan of all places.
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>>315377278
Sheev told me to do it
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>>315377327
HATE BETHESDA ASTROTURFING ON /v/
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>>315377327
le autism
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>>315377235
>a gum
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>>315377235
I love Planescape, NWN and Baldurs Gate 2 and have put over 1000 hours into them.

D&D is outdated. Do you really think Black Isle and Bioware would have made those D&D RPGs if they had powerful 3d graphics like we have today? Don't kid yourself.
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>>315377134
>rpg are defined by the ability to change your appearance.
I guess that makes fallout 1 & 2 not rpgs.
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>>315377175
Actually, no you haven't. You just said it looks like shit. I said it looks fun. We both have conflicting opinions with no ammunition.
At the end of the day we both lose because it's a fucking video game and you can choose to like or dislike it
>b-b-but it's a shitty game
Have fun convincing someone who's played the game and enjoyed it that it's a shitty game
That can refer to any video game, too. Ultimately, your opinion is shit and I don't care for it. I'm still buying the game and I'm gonna enjoy that and you can't do shit about it
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>>315377387
Try saying that to the face of gramglook, my half Orc warrior you fucking prick
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>>315377387
Take a guess which dragon age is the best selling one. And still looked upon favourably on /v/

Hint it is the one with the d&d style.
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>>315370665
If you chart a course that bypasses the mountains but still moves in a straight line (or better yet, activate no-clip then glide at running speed through the mountains) it takes about the same amount of time to traverse Skyrim in a straight line.

Seriously, I'm not even kidding, the only source for "It took 30 mins to cross Skyrim" is from a Kotaku reporter who got stuck on a mountain and stopped to check his fucking map repeatedly (and still counted it in the amount of time taken to cross the map for some reason, fucking Kotaku).

To run across Skyrim while sprinting when you can takes about 10 minutes, even less on a horse, I tested it myself.

So FO4 is roughly the same size as Skyrim is what I'm saying here so I really don't see the issue.
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>>315370665
>that fucking radiation storm

The atmosphere in this is great. All I need is better textures and better facial animations and I'm set.

Looks like a better version of 3 and NV gameplay wise. Shame about that dialogue though.
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>>315377453
In 2015, yeah, that's a big plus to the whole role playing part.

>>315377493
Fuck your orc, it's 2015. Upgrade to 3d RPGs you fool.
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>>315377467
>le everything is subjective fallacy

put a trip on so I never have to see your posts on /v/ again
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>>315377453
I think RPG has at least 2 of these:
>character customization
>stats
>choices
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>>315375671
>>/reddit/
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>>315377387

>Do you really think Black Isle and Bioware would have made those D&D RPGs if they had powerful 3d graphics like we have today?

holy fuck this is fucking depressing
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>>315377649
Hey can you link me the site, my keyboard is broken so I have to copy paste everything
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>>315377617
Have fun being too busy hating on every game that comes out instead of actually playing and having fun with them
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Reminder that you need an i7 and GTX 980 to max out this game
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>>315371856
>shill

He just said Fallout 4 is garbage you absolute cock worm.
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>>315374962

I agree. And the thing people are forgetting is that FO4 has sprint, which FO3 and NV lack, so this drastically cuts down on travel times on foot.

But whatever, /v/ seems to determined to hate this game that it doesn't really matter what anyone says.
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>>315370665
Those farmlands look kinda comfy.

Not buying this shit though.
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>>315377608
Then why is fo4 such a shit role playing game? Why do I have a wife? Why is my voice fixed? Fo4 is a even shittier rpg minus appearance changes.
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>>315377752
The fuck is that shit?
That better be an LOD error.
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>>315377617
You knowi
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>>315372412
>I'm going to run across the map
>open in-game console
>turn off enemies
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>>315377809
It is 2015!
What you expect a good non buggy Bethesda game?
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>>315377760

It's just saying that to hide it's shilliness.
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>>315370665
How big was 3? I don't remember it taking long to get from one side of it to the other. What bothers me about this video is that I'm five minutes in and haven't seen shit. Just spooky woods.

Which are, admittedly, pretty spooky. Something about it makes me uncomfortable.
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>>315372551
>>shilling this hard
>You can stop anytime.

>Shilling

>This game is shit, but not for the reason you said. There are many better reasons why the game is shit

>Shilling

I don't think that word means what you think it means.
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>>315377794
I haven't played Fallout 4 but I expect it to be the best RPG of the year by a large margin since there has been zero worthwhile competition.
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>>315377854
Except the encountered a couple of enemies near the end. Sorry senpai, try again.
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>>315377854
He didn't turn off enemies. The enemies just didn't chase him more than 10m and the mc could outrun any threat.
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>>315372551
>literally zero reason

You're right. Maybe they don't want good reviews or people to even enjoy the game. There was clearly a fucking reason you fucking faggot. Lurk more and work out what the fuck you're saying. You don't know what shill means.
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>>315371420
Vaseline and feces.
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>>315377706
I'll be too busy enjoying actually good games like street fighter 5 and dark souls 3 anon. Enjoy gobbling up that by-the-numbers Ubisoft dogshit :)
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>>315377920
>What is The Witcher 3
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>>315377920
Based on what? How much todd pays you to shill the stupid game?
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>>315377794
The point of an RPG is to Role-Play as a character, there's no rule about having to role-play as a character created by you. In fact some of the earliest CRPGs had fixed characters and every Fallout game (including those made by Black Isle) give your character a backstory not made up by you. Does the addition of a romantic partner in your character's backstory really trigger you that much? Are you really THAT unimaginative that you can't roleplay unless all the tools are handed to you?

You really don't understand role-play do you.
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>>315377986
I will have fun destroying your casual ass as Rashid
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>>315377991
>Witcher 3
>Good
kek
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>>315377986
>Street Fighter 5
Have fun playing the same shit from the past few games
>Dark Souls 3
Because dying every 10 seconds is fun as hell, right?
Your opinion, anon, but you're still a faggot
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>>315373687
Yeah, but not an open map that's roughly 11 minutes of foll sprinting wide. It isn't a corridor level, it's one dimension of a whole map. Seems to be about the same size as Fallout 3.
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>>315374395
Not surprised an Internet Aristocrat fanboi is insulted at /v/.
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>>315378026
Fuck off. I was replying to the idiot that said divinity wasn't a rpg because you had limited character customization
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>>315375479
Because of pop culture and memes
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Any leaked information on any Vaults or side quests or even what the main story's like?
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>>315378083
Can't be worst than Fallout 4
Also
>nice opinion
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>>315378094
>dying every 10 seconds

wow I really am talking to a casual reddit baby who plays spotlight western garbage. on /v/ of all places.

this has been a surreal experience anon. thanks for this. you made my night.
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They have the perk for breathing in water and getting no radiation from swimming, so hopefully there's a decent amount of shit in the water.

Otherwise, this is a load of barnacles.
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>>315378178
Main story is about finding your son
Your son is the big bad of the main story.
Enjoy
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>>315378197
>nice opinion
And to you too sir.
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Uh oh the review embargo isn't lifted until Monday at 5 am. That's not a good sign.
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>>315378296
Thanks senpai
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>>315378223
Hey what a wonderful kind of day, when we can learn to laugh and play, and get along with each other
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>>315371698

Are those fucking balls?
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>>315378226
I guess it will be dlc or they just run out of perk ideas
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>>315378302
They extended the embargo so they can bribe more reviewers since this leak
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>>315378302
If that is your first red flag after all of these leaks, you need your head checked.
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>>315378223
FUCK no wonder you're a negative piece of shit.
You and everyone of this fucking board sucks Japanese developers dicks and automatically disregards everything western.
Fuck off, weeaboo, nobody cares about your Final Fantasy clones
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>>315377134
>Pillars of Eternity
>D&D
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>>315377809
Of course it's a LOD error. Non-Bethesda games have them, so why wouldn't F4 have them too?
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>>315376949

It's probably just a downgraded version of blowout from Stalker franchise.
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>>315378374
You come across a lone cleric "greetings traveler I am alone".

What do you do next?
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>>315370665
Is 11 minutes even that short walking diagonally? There's nothing obstructing his path to go that way. If he were to explore the whole map, as in walking to the far right every 30 seconds or so, then to the far left it'd take hours
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>>315378178
I bet some other anon can elaborate more. But we know:

You, either male or female character, is married with a son at the beginning of the game. You sign up to get into a vault and the war happens literally three minutes afterwards. You run off to vault, get down and there is some stuff you probably do in the vault. You go into cryo sleep, and when you wake up your son gets stolen from you and your partner gets shot as she refuses to let the baby go. That, or, your baby gets stolen before you go into cryo sleep for 200 years.

As you escape from the vault you try to find your missing son. Another fucking game about looking for family. Whatever. There are some rumours about your son being the bad guy which would literally surprise noone if it was, other than fags on reddit I guess.

>>315378373
That's a massive, inaccurate generalization.
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http://strawpoll.me/5917249
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>>315377992
Based on footage we've seen of character creation, combat, crafting and the game world. There will be a shit ton of different playstyles and lots of ways to mix them, like in the previous Fallouts. It will be first person or third person. I can play the game in VATs or real time, with companions or without, as a male or a female fully voiced, fat or thin, pacifist or non pacifist. Basically, the fact that it's another Fallout game pretty much guarantees it to be the best RPG this year, even with Bethesda's weak writing taken into account.

Fucking duh.
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>>315378450
Talking bout my g-g-generalization
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>>315372676
You could do the same shit in any Bethesda game though. Pick a straight line and try not to deviate, and you'll encounter minimal resistance. Something about spawn zones, you'll encounter a lot more hostility if you're wandering around into multiple spawn triggers or some shit.

I read about the way it worked in Oblivion a long time ago, but I don't know the particulars.
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>>315370665
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>>315370665
VIDEO'S DOWN

TODD'S UP

>>315378449
What do you mean? >>315378535 is basically the route he took fyi
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>>315374558
>video game forums

huhuhuhuhu
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>>315372094
>i saw a deathclaw in FO3 at around level 3 or earlier
In this random encount er you get one of the three deathclaw gauntlet schematics,good on you,a dream when you started out with an unarmed build.
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>This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by ZeniMax Media Inc.

Video's down


Anyone got reupload?
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>>315378557
I'm saying the directional length means nothing. Not like you're going to be playing the game only walking in this direction then finishing the game in 11 minutes
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>Sprinting
>Not just having Oblivion acrobatics and athletics scaling
>As you progress in the game you slowly get faster at doing it
>New players explore the game at the intended pace
>Old players get in and get out with their fetch quests

It was the right formula. And they fucked it up.
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>>315378535
im betting SE to NW takes longer
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>>315378676
Read the thread.
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>>315378449
As has already been pointed out, 11 mins is about the same amount of time it would take to cross Skyrim if you don't get stuck behind a mountain.

FO4 is about the same size as Skyrim map-wise and Skyrim was plenty big enough in terms of area.

Honestly people complain about map size and always say they want bigger maps but ultimately if the map is too big things get tedious because it takes forever to go anywhere (unless the game has some kind of fast transport or the entire map is ultimately the same like GTA, where the only difference between areas of the map is where the quests are and exploring is meaningless). I mean hell, The Witcher 3 was a pain in the ass to traverse even with your horse, I can't even imagine making an even bigger map and making people travel across it on foot.
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>>315370665
How many blunders of the century is this now? Like 57489302 and it's only the 15th year. /yawn

The may may is getting old now. Just let it die.
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These retards who waste their time uploading to YouTube, when they knows it's going to be taken down, simply need to be gassed.
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>>315374558
>>>/r/fallout
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/v/
>I can't afford this game because I have no job, so I will shit on everyone who can afford it by saying it's bad because I say so.
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>>315378708
>350 posts
I really don't want, I just came here
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>>315374558
So were supposed to like every game no matter how bad it is?
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>>315378694
Well, yeah. But it just shows off how large the world will be in a measurable way pre-release. 12 minutes walking diagonally across the map, and diagonally is the longest direction to walk. Like 1/5 of the fucking map is water.

>>315378741
It's not a waste, allows people like me to download it to safely store the leaks.

>>315378771
>implying there isn't better shit to buy than fucking Fallout 4
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>>315378792
>Ctrl+f
>'re-up' 'webm' 'something'
You lazy fuck.
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>>315378771
>implying pirates won't be the first people playing it when a review copy leaks

top deflection shill
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>>315378771
>I can't discuss anything like a normal person, so I will shit on everyone doing so and post really weak bait and enjoy all the replies from people telling me to go back to reddit
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>>315378797
Not at all, but if you enjoy it, then fucking enjoy it and keep your own damn opinion of the game
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day 1 pirate to be quite honest
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>>315374934
The subways were cool...the first time you played the game. The issue with Fallout 3 is that if you don't have any expectations and go in blind your first playthrough will be substantially better than the actual quality of the game. As soon as you revisit locations or replay it with a different character you start to see the cracks in the world-building. Fallout New Vegas is much better if you want to get an insight into the world of the Mojave Wasteland and understand the motivations of characters and the purpose behind every location.
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>>315378226
>perk for breathing in water
>THE MC IS TOTALLY NOT AN ANDROID I SWEAR
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>>315378771
You forgot
>Then I will pirate it, play it and enjoy it anyway but continue to shitpost about how bad it is.
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>>315378839
>mplying there isn't better shit to buy than fucking Fallout 4
and fuck lookie that. I can afford those as well!
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>>315378493
Nice try shill. Divinity has a billion more RP elements alone and isn't a shitty made game with shit animations, shit AI, shit story, shit gameplay mechanics for idiots like you.
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>>315378869
>Implying it's worth pirating
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>>315370665
You ever farted so hard you thought you shit yourself? It's a pretty odd feeling cause you wanna check to be sure but at the same time you kinda don't wanna know since if you did shit yourself from the fart that would not only be nasty to see dookie all over your undies but also really embarrassing. Like damn I'd never let that down if it happened to me again.
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>>315378438
>every fantasy game ever is D&D
That's like calling Mad Max a "Fallout movie", since it's post-apocalyptic, and everything post-apocalyptic ever is Fallout, right?
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>>315378771
>saying it's bad because I say so.
I say it's bad because that's how it fucking looks
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>>315378713
I wrote the former post, but while I agree that pure size of the map means nothing, Witcher's map was huge because of the lay-out. You couldn't walk in a straight line because there were mountains, roads leading different ways etc. If anything this 'leak' just shows that the world is sort of boring logistically.
>>315378839
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I just pre-ordered this on PS4 and I've never even played a FO game. Suck it /v/
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>>315376440
swallow a gun my man.
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>>315376678
So, you literally have a better RPG in mind while thinking about F4? And to make your post even shittier tell others not to mention it?
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>>315378936
>I say it's bad because that's how it fucking looks
every game ever on a board of losers with nothing else to do but not play games because they can;t afford them.
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>>315378962
>I just threw my money away, suck it losers!
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Is there a mirror to the video?
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I don't think that anyone in the world could make a game good enough to satisfy /v/.
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>>315378713
They're children. Children don't understand, fear and hate limitations.

I remember finding out that Diablo has a level cap of 50 and being unable to play further, even though I was nowhere near that (I was 11). Kids are like that. Of course, developers have to trick them into playing enjoyable games instead of actually catering to them, because a 11-13 year old's dream game is quite unplayable.
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>>315378839
I still don't think making the map smaller than in some open world games is a bad idea in itself. Look at Gothic 2. The map is pretty damn tiny, but it feels full of content and like a living environment.

Not that I'd except Bethesda to be able to fill a square foot with decent content, but still.
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>>315379023
Nope, I have money and often buy games. Also many games are good and those are the ones I buy, but not FO4 because it looks worse than FO3 and I don't want to support See-Those-Mountains
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>>315378905
Simply false.

>>315378983
I'm saying FO4 will probably the best RPG this year because nothing else has even tried to come close.
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>>315379072
Not true. Moot made 4chan the best game of all time!
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>>315379023
I can afford it and I don't want it :^)
So far they've shown nothing interesting and the leaks just high-light many shit aspects of the game
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>>315372301
If moving through empty space counts as part of the map, so does moving over a mountain.
It's like they've flattened out the mountains, but not added anything new on top of them.
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>>315379056
http://a.uguu.se/nusimz.webm

>spoonfeeding lazy niggers.
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>>315379023
Absolutely everyone can afford Fallout 4.
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>>315379117
Then why care or post about a game you wont like? It is not in anyway shape or form to ignore games you don't like or plan on playing yet here you are buddy.
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>>315379032
Not the guy but did the same, feels good to spend money on things you like. But you wouldn't know that cuz you don't have an income do you? Working part time at MC D doesn't count
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>>315379160
all this fallout posting is mad stupid but im laffin at this
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>>315378771
Are you 12?

>"Y-Y-YOU ONLY HATE THE GAME BECAUSE YOU CAN'T AFFORD IT!!!"

Seriously?
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>>315379109
Looking from the gameplay footage we've seen so far, an entire museum being taken up by basically one quest, I don't think there'll be too much content to be honest. Maybe I'll be surprised but Bethesda is prone to disappointing. If you look at the across-the-map-running it looks really empty too. I liked the swamps though, kinda. I am a sucker for spooky swamps if they're done right.
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>>315378971
Suck a gun fucko
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>>315376678
>inb4 people unironically compare The Witcher 3(1 dimensional action RPG) to Fallout 4
So Fallout 4 isn't even an ARPG, but an open world shooter?
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>video deleted with copyright bullshit

WHAT DID I MISS
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>>315379128
>Simply false

>Your own backstory, no preset nonsense like FO4
>Your own class based on your skills
>Times 2 for your companion
>Multiple playstyles based on classes
>Multiple ways to approach a quest
>No quest markers so you actually feel like an explorer
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>>315379160
>That Mr. Handy in the background

It's so dense, every single frame has so much going on
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>>315379072

And developers have nobody to blame but themselves for the state of the industry and bitter consumer base.

shitty and shady business practices with pre orders and gamestop culture

obviously shift in gear from quality to cut as many corners possible for profit.

game companies run by people who don't know what gamers want [konami]

delusional crack-dependent level mentality from the consumer base ensure these things are here to stay because they will lap up whatever shit is shoveled out to get their next high.
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>>315379220
says the guy posting about games he doesn't like or plan on playing.
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>>315376678
>Name a better RPG
>inb4 you name the best RPG by far that came this year
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>>315378864
>"only positive opinions are allowed on /v/ about muh fallout"
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>>315379220

>Are you 12?
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>>315379303
I think that everyone is way too fucking jaded here. When the majority of you can't even a find a single game to enjoy in an entire year something is wrong with you.
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>>315375457
It's better design to have the size of the map reflect the amount of shit in it than to make a big open space with nothing at all.

The benefit of an open world is wandering around and stumbling across shit, not walking for an hour and a half over stark nothing.

>>315375479
Freedom. It's a stupid sandbox that you can roam around first person. Beth's Fallout games are the answer to that feeling people get when playing shooters with big, open areas like the original Halo's (yeah, crucify me, I said something positive about Halo) that makes them want to just wander about and do lite RPG-like shit.

Fallout 3 had a billion things wrong with it and trashed the Fallout lore. But I still played hundreds of hours of it, just chilling to music and exploring. That's all it's good for, is poking around, finding new locations with hidden goodies, tapes, unmarked quests, ect.

I can't think of another developer that lets the player just gear up and explore an open map at their own pace. Both 3 and Oblivion were great for that mindless, comfy zone-out play.
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>>315376678
The Witcher 3
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>>315379409

You realize how many people post on 4chan? it's a fairly accurate representation of the consumer base, so is reddit. This is how people feel, to write it off as jaded is delusional apologetic behavior that's unnecessary unless you have some real stake in proving me wrong which means you're a shill.

It's also a bit egotistical to say we can't enjoy anything, i love city skylines for instance, but i don't apologize to defend anything, especially when it's obvious.
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>>315379286
Irradiated storms.
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>>315373129
>and technicaly mor surface because there are no mountains
That makes no sense at all.
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>>315375718
The live stream I was watching earlier was the PC version.
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>>315379437
Halo is a series of shooters that's technically high-quality ( up until recently ), if fairly by the books in terms of design

But yeah no, the main draw of Fallout and beth games in general is the whole " lose yourself in a big world and do whatever ", basically a less stigmatized version of Minecraft
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>>315375146
I'd fuck xer.
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>>315375340
When i went, there niggers were singing about Christianity across the river.
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>>315379287
>Your own backstory, no preset nonsense like FO4
This is what gets me in games like these. They're always boasting about how customizable and personal everything is but you're always playing as the chosen one and shit.

I wouldn't even care if the story wasn't an epic about fighting dragons or some shit like in Skyrim as long as I felt like it was my own story.
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>>315379530
I'm not even talking about Fallout in general. I'm not gonna bother wasting my time after being fooled by Skyrim a few years ago. I'm just so fucking tired of coming here every day to a website full of people that hate everything about video games.
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>>315373129
The mountains and stuff actually worked in Skyrim's favour. In lots of points you could see the vistas from far away, which just made the world seem grander than it actually is.
Here you're not really getting that feeling, thanks to much of the land being on mostly same level, with any hill blocking your way.

I dunno, the world just feels very dull to me.
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>>315379654
Leave and dont come back?
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>>315379654
Plenty of people are gobbling this shit down and acting proud because of their wasted cash

open your eyes, plenty of retards in the same boat as you
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>>315379654
Then the obvious answer is leave. You have two choices: hatebox or drone hugbox. Get thicker skin, plenty of people say positive things about various games and enjoy them here.

Literally nothing about Fallout 4 looks good so theres nothing positive to say about it.
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>>315379654

Then stop coming to it? I'd argue you have a bigger problem than 4chan does because you keep involving yourself with something you clearly don't agree with and hate.

Start a fangroup and only praise it then anon, nobody is stopping you, but don't try to stop everyone from disliking it either, they are entitled to their opinions as much as you are.
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>>315378557
Why did I just laugh so hard imagining Todd waking up and immediately, personally taking down leak videos?
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>>315379638
Nothing wrong with a good chosen one story
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>>315371637
Fallout 4 has 10 times of more nothing than Skyrim.
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>>315370665

So is it true that Todd is not allowing any reviews of the game before the game releases?

Do you think there will be backlash from normies after this?
Do you think IGN/Gamespot/Kotaku will revolt and give it the 7/10 it deserves?

Is this the end for Todd?
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>>315376678
Pillars of Eternity, Shadowrun Hong Kong, Age of Decadence, Undertale
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>>315379757
Why is there no in between? Irrational hate or irrational love. That sounds great.
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>>315379286
A spic running and swimming to the border
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>>315379810
The review embargo lifts like 7 hours before release if i remember correctly
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>>315379769
>STOP POSTING THESE VIDEOS I NEED MY BEAUTY SLEEP
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>>315379437
>The benefit of an open world is wandering around and stumbling across shit, not walking for an hour and a half over stark nothing.
I do agree that games should have content to fill the world with, but if you pack a small map full of shit, it's going to feel cramped, and world won't feel plausible. There needs to be a sense of distance in the world.
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>>315379810
It'll probably get a 8/10 and we all know that is a failure for a paid review.
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>>315379878
Big red flag
>>
Reminder that people aren't only hired to shill games, but to shit on big releases, notice the trend of call of duty acceptance in the next week and you will know what I say is true
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>>315379783
Sure, but wouldn't it be nice to have a story where you don't happen to always turn out to be the world's most inexplicably powerful badass? I want more things about a character who can achieve greatness, but through his own actions instead of being the central cornerstone of an ancient prophecy.

Too bad there ain't much games like that around these days, huh
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>>315379945
What if I just like laughing at western game blunders in general
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>>315379963
Witcher 3's story isn't based you being the chosen one.
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All this talk of Fallout 4 being a piece of shit makes me want to finally get around to NV. I remember something about the dev team getting fucked because they didn't get a high enough metacritic. Can I pirate it guilt free?
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>>315379945
Good. I have years of experience, but I always did for free.
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>>315372294
you can't make this shit up
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>>315379945
But call of duty actually looks good unlike fallout4 Todd, but nice try
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>>315380030
I'm pretty sure Zenimax and Gabe would get all the profits at this point, so knock yourself out.
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>video already taken down
damnit jews, let me see it
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I like how people in this thread think undertale is a better game than FO4
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>>315380025
Yeah, I guess it's fairly welld handled in the Witcher. I do LIKE the Witcher series, but it's still the thing where you're playing as literally the baddest ass coolguy who ever existed. I'd take that over another goddamned chosen one, though.
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>>315380129
Ctrl + F the webm
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It looks like they all rub Vaseline on their faces
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>>315379895
you're judging the game solely of how long it takes to move across the map. That criteria has literally never been used by any reputable game critic and basically your a fucking idiot.
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>>315380030
>Can I pirate it guilt free?
Yes. You need to download and install so many patches and mods to actually play the game that you'll be angry you pirated the game. This happened with me when I got the game 3 years ago.
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>>315379592
I get that appeal of Minecraft. I'm not a fan of the game but people like this kind of thing. I tend to like this kind of thing.

I'd say many elements of Halo are actually very not by-the-book in terms of many design elements. I always loved it because its (the first one's) outdoor level designs, visual style on the Forerunner structures (clean, geometrical), skyboxes, and sound design were all something else. Its whole visual and audio aesthetic really struck a chord with me that no other game ever has, not even Halo 2 or 3, although I love them. Its enemy, weapon, and environment designs always seemed just right to me, and few other games have managed to look that "right", with the minimalistic yet quality writing style to boot.

>>315379929
I think there will be. There was in 3 and that map wasn't terribly large. You could probably cross it in about 15 minutes or so not counting the dense city portion, but it felt like a chore not using fast travel to beam everywhere. Like walking from Megaton to Tenpenny. Really only like 6 minutes or so, but felt like it took all goddamned day because it's a slog.
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With the comment about Bethesda first porting Skyrim to next gen, I'm wondering if they're actually expecting this to not perform as well as previous titles, due to smaller install bases of consoles currently. Bethesda isn't actually seeing the point in putting so much effort to a game that will not sell as much.
You can bet that soon they're going to announce next-gen port of Skyrim, using the improved engine of Fallout 4, probably to gather some more consumer faith after lukewarm reception of FO4.
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>>315380168
That is the draw back of having an open backstory, the only way to force the player into a sense of urgency for the main storyline is to force a chosen one bullshit.
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>>315380178
>Vaseline
You're not allowed to say Vaseline, that's copyright.
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I'm guessing fo4 will be priced down to 30-40$ in a few months right? I'm not getting it on release date anymore but still want to play it
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>>315379945
>call of duty acceptance
People like me aren't shitting on Fallout 4 because it's my fucking job. And although there is definitely some shilling in these threads, saying that Call of Duty always has to be shit is just as droning and meemeeing as it is to excuse Bethesda's shit. And fuck if I wouldn't rather spend my money on the next CoD than Fallout 4, Todd.

>>315380129
It was up for about two hours, but don't worry! Kind anons uploaded it so you can enjoy it here. http://a.uguu.se/nusimz.webm

>>315380125
Yeah, these are leaks. The embargo ends 7 hours before the game is released.

>>315380205
I wonder how well Skyrim will sell on these new consoles, from people merely wanting to have it on their new systems. Skyrim sold more than 20 million fucking copies. If people noticed Bethesda being the devs of it, Fallout 4 will sell like crazy potentially - and if it sucks, Bethesda are going to have to cope with a fuckton of hate. It'll be beautiful.
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