How has he remained the best lord despite so many other games in the series?
>Aristocrats mad they're shits
>Implying royal shits come even close to this motherfucker
You won't even dare mess with his friends, bitch.
>slim to none waifus
Literally every single female character from the redhead milf to the farmer speargirl to the moe lightning mage to the slim swordchick was a waifu. Even the goddess was a fucking tsunloli waifu. The only reason you don't consider them waifus is because you actually waifued them.
He's a stone cold mother fucker who doesn't give a shit about those prancing aristocrat faggots and just wants to save his people. He's a man of the people.
Someone didn't play Path of Radiance.
OFFICIAL RANKING OF BEST LORDS (TOP TIER LORDS ONLY)
>NOT TOP TIER
he may be the best lord but not the daddiest
>top units looks like a harem
>marcia, nephenee, mia, jill and astrid
>mostly used Ike, but he gets number 2 spot with 100 wins
>who comes up first
>beating Ike by 1 at 101 wins
>didn't intentionally use him more nor was i even expecting him to be a top unit
>he just kept going and eventually proved himself better
>smug as fuck
>nu main character is the biggest mary sue bullshit to FE history, who makes stupid decisions and is surprisingly irrational. Is also total shit as a unit and leads one of the most bunk bad teams ever in FE history. Ike actually just steals the show and literally everyone was happy to be done with her, at least until she came back.
>FE Shadow Dragon
>remake so doesn't really count. Marth is pretty much only there for the player to put a face to the good guys
>FE mystery to fates
>literal self insert who exists to a straight man to others
Might be because they haven't actually made another game with a nu main main character lord yet. Ike stole the show in 10, and hell even the main role by the end.
Not really hate anyone but Micaiah, there's actually nothing really wrong with self-inserts but they're just usually not as well done as a established character due to their nature as characters.
Siggy is jesus on wheels yeah, but he's also not /that/ good.
Hell nearly half the cast of first gen can end up better or as good as him, and pretty much ALL of 2nd gen will if you didn't retard things up.
FE4 is still my favorite game in the series, it just feels so different though
Eliwood really is bland stat and characterwise, but he doesn't get enough credit. Seeing as everyone just kind of ignores him, but his Great Lord promotion and holy weapon are actually the best out of the three lords in 7, and he's the only non-Luna user who can one round the dragon.
favorite girl from Tellius and you meet her 5 minutes into the game. Also one of the better Gold Knights in Radiant Dawn
Why fuck Mist when he has every other girl in the army who isn't related to him?
Not that I'm against incest or nothin
I don't think most people do, it's more mechanics and settings taking a nose dive due, in part, to the relationship and it's interaction with said self-insert.
Pretty sure anyway. Maybe some people do, but I still think it's just because of how they decide to make it interact with the story.
At least IS cares enough about him to put him on the cover of the making of book
>there's nothing wrong with self-inserts
There's nothing good about them either. They are just used by lazy and incompetent writers who can't be bothered to put effort in writing an interesting character (especially if it's the protag)
Actually Titania is probably the single most useful unit in both games, in PoR for probably being the best non-royal throughout the entire game and RD for being arguably the best Knight; the best human class besides Wvyern.
I personally hate what Robin's presence did to the story in Awakening.
Could Robin have stayed in the game as a self insert and a not terrible story been done? Yeah probably
Do I trust ISIS to actually try?
She had my second highest kill count behind Haar in RD. And that's mainly because Haar is just available slightly more.
Nah they can be well done, especially if it's you self inserting in a partly established character, who may answer what you want but does in a way fitting their character.
Obviously not the case with FE, but hey they can be well done.
Yeah I wouldn't really hold my breath for a well done self insert from intelligence system. They've found their audience, and don't particularly care if they appeal to longtime fans or not. Best you can do is just wait and see, same with everything vidya honestly.
>Fights for his next paycheck
Every other lord
>Fights for their throne
Ike is easier to relate to, which is why he's the best. Being both the main character and being absurdly broken in not just one, but two games also helps.
Why was he designed to be so bad?
Please, Ike is an even bigger mary sue than Micaiah in 10, he's the hero everyone loves and expect to safe them, everyone fear him! Ike can beat 2 nations at the same time!
Pretty much everyone but Sothe and Palleas hate Micaiah and she can't do anything right.
She fuckin looks like she's going to some office in the 80s. It's great. I love the pompadours everywhere.
Not necessarily a boat trip. Pretty sure it just says went to explore far off lands
There's a very valid and shown reason for why people trust Ike though.
We literally played as him last game to give him that trust.
Everyone is like "oh watch out for that silver haired maiden she's a master tactician"
And then she's forced along during the end game because she becomes an avatar of half a goddess because random unexplained connection to almost every royal member on the continent.
Rapiers and other Prf weapons aren't holy weapons.
The only real explanation is that all the holy weapons in the GBA games are breakable. Pretty much everywhere else they either can't break or can be infinitely repaired
Literally not Lyndis though. She still hasn't been topped as best MC, let alone Lord.
>pisses people off
>leads a rag-tag group of people, giving no fucks, but proving that he can lead an army effectively
>actually able to stand on the front lines
>relies on tacticians and his friends to help
>super special snowflake silver hair
>super special snowflake branded
>super special snowflake powers of healing
>super special snowflake sees the future
>everyone instantly likes her because ???
>revered as a goddess
>apparently a genius tactician, despite constantly making horrible tactical moves and losing battle after battle
>super secret lost heir of begnion
lyndis can't take a hit, and without critting she doesn't hit for shit.
We're so fucking close to Elfhelm brah, I can fucking taste it. Now that Rickert's shit is sorted out, we're totally due for a Guts chapter. It'll probably open with them arriving.
>Ike is a bigger mary sue than long lost royalty with special powers unique to her that will live forever and has the support of literal god, the prophet for god's right hand (who she's actually the boss of), prophet's OP attack dog, family of both dragon tribe and daein's royal family.
>Supposedly a great tactician but literally does nothing but stupid shit over and over and gets bailed out by other characters, and nobody calls her own it but rather her just fighting for Begnion because of the blood contract nobody but her army knew about.
I never said Ike wasn't a marty, but if you seriously think he's worse than micaiah you might wanna reply 10. 10 had a lot of mary sue bullshit in, like soren, mist, Burger King and even ike but NOBODY FUCKING NOBODY is worse than micaiah.
In terms of character Lyn is above average compared to the other lords. In terms of gameplay she's pretty alright too, nothing special, but not as bad as some would have you believe. Unfortunately anytime you attempt to defend her you just get called a waifufag, but whatever I still like her the most out of all the female lords.
Also pic related is Japan's taste.
When it comes out, make you're choice. The story is shit even by Fire Emblem standards and the only saving grace is the gameplay of the Nohr route. As for the kids.
The kids are born during the events of the game, put in a hyperbolic time dimension, aged till they can fight and then finally let out to go to war
>unironically liking Lucina
>when she's literally and (ironically) figuratively Marth
You can't even say she's just female Marth because Marth himself is a fucking twink.
Didn't know people liked him that much.
I mean he was cool but idk I felt like he just got easily overshadowed by other characters in the game.
He is probably the most prone to incest lord though
Finn is a fucking baller. Holy shit the dude does so well everytime i play the game.
I've never tried getting him hitched though, how does that work?
Because FE4 in general was just a cool game, and the first half has one of the more compelling stories in the game, with Sigurd being a central figure in that. It doesn't hurt that he literally can't be a bad unit.
Wut? We DBZ now?
They should honestly make a gameplay excuse like a marriage in the FE universe results in a grown kid because sex and child rearing are not like how it is in real life and leave it at that?
Disgusting. The series that almost killed Fire Emblem.
Fucking Leif was better than Ike.
Or if they're going to put kids in an FE game they should stick to their guns like FE4 did and actually have a generation switch.
One of the most fulfilling parts of Awakening to me was the fact that they might as well have killed off all the adults for how much I used them in the 2nd half of the game.
Actually FE9 is one of the higher selling FE games.
FE10 sold abysmally though because it literally wasn't advertised. I remember not even seeing it in fucking Nintendo power until a month after it's release
>Even with all the Awakening faggotry and the huge push for Lucina, Ike is still the undisputed king of Fire Emblem, With Marth right behind him.
Suck it waifufags.
It's one of those weird situations where they like the character even though the games sold like shit. Also in terms of design they don't hate Ike from PoR, they hate "muscle man gorilla Ike" from RD (at least if Smash is any indication).
At least pull something like time shenanigans when including kids, but in Fates they have absolutely no reason to be there and are only included to try and appeal to awakeningfags.
If you're bringing up sales then say Leif is better I hope you're not implying that Thracia sold well at all. Seeing as it's by far the worst selling game in the series.
Even though it's one of the best games in the series.
Depends, since "shitty laptop" isn't exactly descriptive. But I ran PoR on a toaster pretty evenly, the games aren't taxing.
It saved Fire Emblem financially. But Awakening is Fire Emblem only in name. The spirit of the series is dead. Now instead of conflict, badassery, intense strategy and waifus everywhere, we have waifus everywhere and nothing else.
No, from the sales both FE9 and FE10 sold poorly. Nips hate consoles, especially for a game that was on handheld for some time. SD actually sold average and so did the sequel. Awakening did not save the series in the least bit, the amount IS needed to make in order to stay in business was average sales. With the west starved for a decent FE game, it was bound to do average or more.
Eugenically, his best pair up is Lachesis. Just have them next to each other and abuse the jealousy system. Be careful about having Beowulf around her. His one dialouge to her does give her much needed stat upgrades, it will also add love points.
>put 20 hours into RD three different times
>always quit around the same chapter for whatever reason
>leave disc inside wii
>forget about it
>send wii to family in another country
>lose game forever
>used copies are $50+
God fucking dammit.
I don't care what anyone says, Eliwood's my man. If he didn't have such a difficult name he'd be way more popular.
>it was bound to do average or more
something a lot of businessmen in japan seem to not understand.
Then again as far as I can tell, ever since 7 Fire emblem has been much more popular in the west than japan, even accounting for the disparity in population.
To be honest the one game in the series that I thought would have killed the series was FE5, and really in fact it almost did seeing as 6 didn't come out for several years after.
Emulate it I guess. But damn that sucks. I really like RD it's one of my favorites and really shows the strength of the gameplay in the series.
Oh that's cool, but what happens to his items that he normally keeps? Does he show up in 2nd gen with nothing or what?
Also why is Dew not Aira's best pairing.
Well Awakening (and Fates) and FE4 are the only games with marriage so
Shadow Dragon literally sold more than Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn.
It was a drastic move to remake those games, especially in the shitty manner they did, but it bought some more time.
objectivelywas why Fire Emblem was on it's deathbed. Although to be fair, you really have to blame Nintendo for this.
Two consoles that didn't sell well in Japan, a series that was largely Japanese exclusive, and you decide to develop not one, but TWO games in the series that definitely costed more to develop for the GC/Wii than the GBA?
Nintendo almost killed Fire Emblem because they're run by fucking idiots. They always have been.
That being said, Tellius wasn't incredibly enjoyable IMO. It also cemented the fad of cheap 3D models in FE, which Awakening and Fates have unforgivably adopted.
Also Radiant Dawn is just pure, synthesized garbage. Path of Radiance was great for what it was, but I'll never replay either.
All this shit taste
Again FE5 is by far the worst selling FE game.
But PoR and RD are two of the best games in the series. Also there's nothing wrong with RD's models. They were much improved from PoR's wonky models and animations.
RD also still is a contender for some of the best gameplay in the series, with a good mix of varied maps that do a good job of keeping the pace flowing well.
Awakening and Fates are the only other eugenics games in the series, unless Bearwick/Tear Ring has it. Serenes has a huge chart for Awakening pairings.
His weapons pass down to the secondary child or son. If you went with Lachesis, Nanna would get the weapons. If you went with Ayra, Ulster would get the weapons. Be careful, because if Fin has the Brave Lance in possession, he passes it to his kid and starts second gen with an Iron Lance.
His name is just difficult because it's foreign. If his name were something like Arthur, he would have been much more popular.
Roy would have been cool if he promoted earlier, and the Sword of Seals had infinite uses. I honestly don't understand why it took until the 9th game to realize that legendary weapons shouldn't be expendable. That shit blew me away in PoR.
You seriously think it's Eliwoods name and not his bland character and stats that makes people not like him as much?
That's a ridiculous claim. That's also not even how you pronounce the name correctly
>TFW Endgame-3 of Radiant Dawn your weapons are blessed for infinite uses effectively turning them into legendary weapons in their own right.
>Tiki in 7th
At least she get's recognition.
Still why is there barely any fanart of her though
Ah I remember that happening to me the first time, then I looked it up and realized how hilarious it is that his speed could ever even get that high.
>accidentally blessing mundane steel weapons on certain characters
Never forgiving myself for that the first time through
I do think his name had at least played a contributing part. Marth is equally drab yet has received consistent attention.
And yes, that is the correct way to pronounce his name.
FE World Power Rankings
Tellius = Jugdral
Fates Edition: Nohr > Hoshido
If you played your cards right(actually trained Ilyana, and stole a Bolting tome from 3-E) you could make all those dragons your bitch from 10 spaces away an infinite number of times.
>"Sword of Seals had infinite uses."
>Again FE5 is by far the worst selling FE game
Yeah that's not the point, this was before FE was on the global market.
Who cares how much FE sold in Japan back then? It was a niche series with enough of a following, and it barely costed anything to develop.
Nothing to lose, nothing to gain. Although it's entirely possible the lack of sales is because of the hair color, because Nipponland is this retarded.
>Also there's nothing wrong with RD's models
Anyway, there is nothing inherently wrong with RD's models, at the time anyway. But it made Nintendo realize they could get away with using the cheapest possible open source looking amateur bullshit 3D models they could find and tossing them in the game. And now that cancer has spread to the 3DS titles, which should have reverted to Sprites.
>RD also still is a contender for some of the best gameplay in the series
This isn't saying a whole lot though. IntSys isn't really innovative in much of anything. The gameplay will always be worse than Ogre Battle 64 and Tactics Ogre, so until it even tries to get on that footing there is absolutely no point even discussing the gameplay.
I liked the battle animations and the bright colors, two things the former titles I mentioned don't exactly do much of.
Amateur Sprite artwork. FE could have this. So why doesn't it?
Because people will buy anything. The market sets the quality standard, and the market is flooded with morons
I don't think 90% of people even pay attention to names. You like a character by their dialogue or stats.
Marth has been in several games and is a major representative of the series, also he has really good stats in 2 of the games he's been in. By comparison Eliwood is bland in both dialogue and statistically and is only in one game. Granted his Great Lord promotion gives the best bonuses out of all the lords.
You should probably re-read that sentence over again.
There are lewds of adult Tiki. They are acceptable.
Names play a large part in characters. They are intrinsic to how the character's interpreted. I'm not saying they're the LARGEST part or anything. But they are important, and creators don't generally just throw a random name on a character without it being expressive.
But my waifu reqiures more lewds.
I personally actually liked the models in Radiant Dawn though, their animations were good and they put a good amount of effort into them.
I fully agree that as soon as the games go back on mobile they should have been 2D. Both the remakes and Awakening looked like hot garbage and it's a crime that more sprite based games aren't on the 3DS which is hilariously underpowered anyway. But as you said, ISIS is lazy as hell and they've been more than disappointing in just about everything lately. I'm not excusing this, but RD is probably the last time they were actually trying.
You really can't discount a games bonuses just because something else outside of the series did it better. It's like saying "why bother playing (x) when (y) exists" and that's just a bad argument.
And honestly, I don't even think Tactics Ogre does combat better than RD or FE5. Tactics Ogre's battle system is nothing special in the least and I find it far easier than FE5 or even RD.
Yeah, it's me. The guy who likes the animations and hates the 3D models.
No, you're not being baited
What do you play FE for? The challenge? The plotlines?
I disagree but OK.
I mean obviously they count for something, but I know from personal experience I don't like characters because of their names, and I especially never liked or disliked Eliwood any more or less because of his really easy to pronounce name assuming you've ever seen Blues Brothers.
>Fire Emblem retrospective hasn't updated in 3 years
>/feg/ hasn't been good since the entire general played FE12 together.
Post your memories, post the things from /feg/ that were good.
>barely any fanart
Try looking harder than "not at all"
>Lucina and Tharja images in this set translated
>All the Manakete images will never be translated
Damn shame, adult Tiki makes me diamonds.
It used to have good plotlines.
Then it went down to ok plotlines
Now we're just full anime
You just reminded me I lost almost all my FE pictures when upgrading OS's
His name in Japanese is スレイ, or "surei." A more apt localization would be "Sley," which is probably a reference to the English word "slave."
I can't tell you that you like or dislike someone based solely on their name, or even in large part, but I CAN tell you that fitting names go a long way towards someone being remembered a certain way by a majority of people.
>fe9 sold poorly
no it didn't.
>sold near the end of gamecube lifespan
>still sold over 100,000 copies in its opening week in japan
Explain what. This is Hector, the mountain of man we're talking about.
single coolest, most badass line in the entire series of 14 games, right there.
I yawned so hard by comparison when Awakening ended with that awful "muh bonds muh bonds muh bonds" anticlimactic trash
That's statistically untrue
He's worst stat wise, upgrade wise, equipment wise, and his personality is somewhat refreshing given you usually interface with Eliwood the majority of the game.
I mean I still like him a lot, but Ike is just flat out better in most regards.
it's even better when you remember that that's the same line petrine gave him when they were about to get annihilated in path of radiance(right before the laguz saved them+greil died
Until Awakening, the series had 3 roughly equal high points in sales. Those were 3, 7, and 9.
I still remember when that was posted.
How the years have gone and I still haven't had a Lance that bad.
I just turn battle animations off cause I like playing games and not watching them.
The main problem with PoR is that you can't turn off map animations so enemy phases take forever
/feg/ had some good moments when If/Fates was first hacked, but ever since they've run out of things to talk about it's returned to waifuposting and meta-shitposting.
Apparently the translator who did Lucina and Tharja is a huge moralfag who refuses to do loli. That being said, it DOES not make any sense why they'd also exclude adult Tiki. Oh well, maybe someday someone else will rise to the challenge.
Probably just a redrawing, but that mostly looks like standard art of him. Does look good tho
I miss when we had excuses to post these
>that disguises picture
Ok that's great
>I don't get the obsession with playing as a special prince/princess in every single game.
Probably because royalty are more likely to have the power in order to build armies. In medieval time at least.
That being said, Ike is still Best Lord.
Sigurd is my favorite Lord, why must he suffer so much?
Because (and I'm not trying to meme here) the first half of FE4 is basically just the first season of GoT.
Sigurd is incorruptible and becomes a fall guy because he refuses to abandon his ideals and not do good.
yeah, it's a similar thing you see in a lot of popular stories. You're allowed to have a character with no real visible flaws if he ends up dying.
I'm sad I never saw those comics this year.
>You need to be royalty to build an army.
Someone has never watched Berserk.
Or read the histories.
The Great Company was fucking huge and the most you could say about some of the leaders was that they were possibly of a noble back ground, and not even necessarily peerage.
Or heck, your general Condotierri who were operating at that time, like John Hawkood, and alumni of the Great Company who became a civic hero and enobled by marrying up with an Italian noblewoman.
The sheer volume of people who bought Awakening mean it's more than likely that over half the Awakening fanbase has never played another FE game. So it's just kind of expected.
>Finn making the list at all
Japan has all right taste.
>playable throughout all three chapters of the Jugdral saga (with each half of FE4 counting as its own "game")
>decent father gameplay-wise
>tragic backstory; having his liege get effortlessly slaughtered while he was stuck babysitting for him
>undying loyalty to Leif
>being practically required in Thracia due to the bullshit difficulty in early parts of the game
>heartwarming conversations with his children in FE4 Gen 2
He's pretty cool.
Some of you guys are all right.
Don't go to Belhalla Castle tomorrow.
Who even survived that again? I know Aideen did and Levin /technically/ did. But I can't remember who else.
I know there isn't much official say on the matter but I thought I remembered a Kaga interview about it
Don't mind me, just posting best lord
Daily reminder on how much they ruined my first lord.
Eliwood isn't bland in the slightest. Honestly, Ike always struck me as the blandest of the FE lords.
Tiltyu survived but later died, Briggid survived but got amnesia, and Lachesis survived.
Rest are unknown. Ayra disappeared, and Azel was originally supposed to have survived but would be turned to stone.
I know that's why I said /technically/
But I'm 90% sure that
not all women lived since most of them talk about their kids already existing before the final battle.
But I guess there's no real point in spoilers. I'm actually amazed I never had this game spoiled for me despite playing it after coming to most of these threads a few years ago
I'm glad they fixed this shit in Fates. Having people throw Ragnell and Amatsu was absolutely retarded. Hooray for actually decent animations!
Quan and Ethlyn died earlier in the Yied Massacre.
Lewyn was killed by Manfroy, but revived by Forseti (the dragon, not the tome).
Finn survived because he was in Leonster babysitting Leif.
Deirdre survived due to being Arvis's waifu, but was later killed by Loptyr-possessed Julius.
All of the women except Ayra are confirmed to have survived (keyword: "confirmed". Ayra's fate is left ambiguous).
Ferry died of an illness after becoming Queen of Silesse.
Tiltyu died of depression from being abused by Queen Hilda.
According to the manga and Thracia 776, Raquesis gave birth to Delmud from Beowulf, escaped to Isaach after the Battle of Belhalla, then fucked Finn and gave birth to Nanna.
Sylvia escaped and left Leene at an orphanage (no word on what happened to Corple).
Azel tried to speak to Arvis, but was captured and turned to stone.
Claude is confirmed to have died, with Sleuf from Thracia claiming to communicate with his ghost.
Adean became a nun and took care of orphans in Isaach.
Briggid got amnesia and became Eyvel, but eventually recovered her memories and reunited with Patty and Faval.
Everyone else is presumed dead.
Because Intelligent Systems thought she was a better pick than the more popular Lyn to promote their wedding waifu DLC bullshit. In turn all it did is make Eirika look like more of a fodder Lord than she is.
I'm still mad at NoA or whoever the fuck okayed that name.
Also yeah this is all correct to my knowledge as well
>still no quality translation of FE4 and 5 that actually finishes the game.
I forgot amatsu existed
man, awakening swordmasters were bad
but anyway, throwing swords are back with the kodachi and flying dagger lmoa
They do have feet, they just aren't as pronounced. Play Awakening if you wanna see real stubs.
Yeah, but at least those make sense given the type of weapon they are. Throwing a huge divine greatsword like a Javelin doesn't.
Whoa. How the hell did you all forget to post a picture of Marth? Aren't we suppose to be talking about the best lord?
FE1 Marth had the right idea when it came to attire
>Lucina over Chrom
She might not be best Lord, but she's certainly not bad. I think I like her design most as well, maybe tied with Sigurd and SSB4 Ike. Sleek and cool, with cute fluffy hair.
Making her a Bride was a weird choice, but Lyn is basically THE "myrmidon" lord and they also made Seliph a Swordmaster as well so that would have been redundant to have 3. Still would have been better as a Paladin, but as you say "someone" had to bite the bullet
and she was probably because of incest shipping.
Besides, Lyn got her fan-service in a different way.
>all the holy weapons in the GBA games are breakable
To be fair those are 1000 years old. But i believe Roy sucks royal dick when he uses swords, he just go and stab things like a brute when you compare him with Eliwood.
It's actually a copy with Japanese voices and English subtitles! I used to watch it as a kid. The subtitles made direct translations so Marth was called "Mars." I remember when Melee came out I would yell at my friends that his real name is "Mars."
>that map in Radiant Dawn where you have to defend a castle from the very strong Greil mercenaries as the underleveled Loser Brigade
>yfw Ike starts moving
Did you play FE4? The fucking villain of the series literally keks Sigurd with meteors.
Now I don't know what to tell you about this petting shit, but this relationship nonsense is pretty much a natural progression of an element in the series.
You can believe what you want to believe, but he shows plenty of emotion throughout the plot of the game. You might not remember what he said verbatim when his dad died, but you do remember that moment itself, no? What about when he unknowingly kills the girl he loves? He may be righteous to a fault, but he's far from just a stick in the mud.
>two games capitalize on a single function
>an element in the series
>Ike starts moving
>use Sleep staff on him
He shows emotion, but his whole character is just "polite noble"
I honestly didn't remember that moment until you posted the picture, and I've played FE7 4 times.
He rarely ever breaks from that role. He's just the constant level-headed main guy. I really don't mind him, but I don't see how you can look at his dialogues and think that Ike of all people is more bland.
Honestly I wouldn't of mind her being a Bride, since it technically makes sense seeing how she is one of the most passive Lords in the series.
It's more of the fact she was given a Staff, when the most notable thing about her is the fact she specializes in Rapiers.
But yeah, I agree that they should've made her a Paladin.
This is the only reason I stopped playing on hard, and decided I'd be much happier on normal with just not use b.exp or something.
It would just become annoying as hell later on when the maps are littered with enemies.
I would I really didn't want to stop but I was slowing down so my friend could catch up... he stopped playing completely and it totally broke my momentum.
also I was emulating it and my PC was blue screening after every act