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>7 years >90% reused assets from their last game >minimally

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>7 years
>90% reused assets from their last game
>minimally improved graphically
>abandoning core series gameplay elements
>surprised when fans are upset

what the hell is wrong with Todd/Bethesda?
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what do the people think outisde of 4chan, does anyone know?
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>>315295781
>fans are upset
Nah, /v/ fags just wants attention.
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>>315295970
It's GOTY for normal people.

Just like Skyrim was.
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>>315295781
WITNESS HIM
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>>315296041
is it really? I've seen reddit links on here and they didn't seem all that happy
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>>315295970
"Skyrim was fun so this should be good too" is what I've been hearing.
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>>315295781
>90% reused assets from their last game
Don't you think such judgement is a bit premature? You're basing that on a couple leaks.
>minimally improved graphically
The graphics are pretty disappointing, but I wouldn't call them minimal improvements.
Even over Skyrim they are pretty substantial - shadows that aren't blocky as stairs, SSAO, Godrays, Screenspace Reflections, etc.
>abandoning core series gameplay elements
They did that in Fallout 3 already, but true enough.
>surprised when fans are upset
Are they?
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>>315295992
>fans are upset
>implying that fans won't eat whatever Bethesda shits on their plate
and if you were talking about /v/, /v/ is not a fan, just likes to shit on everything these days
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>>315296261
I'm talking about how OP thinks that the entire Fallout community is on /v/... while /v/ shitposts.
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>>315295781
>improved graphically
lmao
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>>315296118
There is reddit and then there are normies not on reddit. Guess which group is larger.
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>>315296261
The Fallout fan base and TES fan base aren't synonymous.
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>>315296085
MEDIOCRE!
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The fans never mattered, it's a SALES*PRICE - BUDGET = PROFIT equation.
I spend money on making a good game when you can spend it on buying the competition and developing future cash cows?
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>>315296556
>I
Why
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>>315296254
>They did that in Fallout 3 already

Thats the sad part. 3 was already dumbed down, NV was an improvement in parts, and 4 is a giant leap back.
I mean you could still see the RPG influences in 3 and NV, and thats what i liked about them. They were something completely different than the originals, but they were still fallout games.
4 on the other hand shapes up to be just another shooter that just happens to be set in something resembling the fallout setting.
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>>315296254
Godrays were standard in unreal 3, it's not a bragging point.

Who gives a shit about any of that anywqys when the facial animations of this character driven rpg are this terrible.
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>>315296782
it's almost like NV got made by a company that wasn't influenced by casualization

woah
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>>315296782
yeah it's a bad sign when they're dumbing down something as already dumbed down as fallout 3. Like, eventually the game is gonna get dumber than the people you want to buy it.
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Shiteaters will buy it anyway.

Why bother putting in effort?
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>>315296261
/v/ are the most emotionally involved fans, this is why they shit on everything. It's an act of love
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>>315296867
Let's not get ahead of ourselves there.
I know NV is put on a pedestal here for some reason, but while it brought some much needed improvements it's still a pretty bad game.
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>fans are upset
>trolls from reddit are pretending to be upset

ftfy
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There is nothing wrong with Bethesda. You just have shit taste senpai.
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>>315295781
>surprised when fans are upset
I doubt it, the dumbed down mechanics appeal to the casual crowd and the massive marketing campaign will ensure that every single will want to join the bandwagon. It's going to be praised as the second coming.
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No one gives a shit about you or the other 6 autistic opinions. You don't know how game development works. You will complain at everything and will claim some yaoi game as GOTY.
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>3 years
>99% new assets
>Improved graphically
>Core series gameplay elements remain
>Fans are happy
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>>315296903
If this trend continues Fallout 5 is gonna be a corridor shooter. Youre gonna be part of the military and you have to fight super mutants behind chest high walls. The only RPG leftovers will be meaningless XP numbers popping up and levels that give one of your two guns +X% damage.
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>>315297081
this desu, 4chin is just being contrarian as usual, beth games are pretty decent
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>>315297081
But Bethesda sucks at making games
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>>315295781
>that picture
>reused assets
oh, the irony
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>the fans are upset

I'm a huge fallout fan, I started with the first game fallout 3 (the first 2 aren't even real games if we're honest) and I'm not upset. I can't wait - you are all just being contrarians.
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>>315296085
I LIVE, I DIE, I LIVE AGAIN
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>>315297312
lazy, 2/10
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>>315296254
>shadows that aren't blocky as stairs
How can they be, when there are no shadows at all, at least indoors. Shadows in the distance fade into view within 150 feet of the character like they are objects in the world and not the product of a lighting engine
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>>315297219
BO2 was shit though so its not hard to improve on that
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>>315296118
>>315296435
I really haven't seen any discussion topic about it, might be in the video topics though
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>>315297036
>trolls from reddit
God tier butthurt
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>people ITT buying games at launch and getting disappointed by them

even if you have the money to do this you look as much of a tool as the guy who buys a $100 bottle of wine at a restaurant

nobody is impressed by your mindless self indulgence
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>>315295781
>Minimal graphics improvement over fo3/nv, but worse than skyrim.
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>>315297532
Welp, never mind, they all seem to like it
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>>315297392
Look up Cascaded Shadow Maps for your answer. In short they get very expensive over large distances.
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Everyone is excited as fuck.

It's only on /bait/ general that people run amok, but that's fine I guess, I shitpost other peoples favourite games as well for retribution.
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>>315296254
You're not having a real time conversation, learn to format your thoughts into sentences and paragraphs like the rest of the planet.
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>>315295781
>people be this mad
You're one of the fat fucks who hyped that game to fuckin infinity when it was announced and now you make daily threads as more and more content shows up. You can't stand the fact that most of the people are going to enjoy the game but it doesn't pleasure your autism
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>>315297017
Well they had to use the Fallout 3 engine. They did what they could
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>>315295970
I was in my local game shop to retrieve my Project Zero, and the guy at the counter received 2 phone calls just for the 10 minutes when I was there, asking him about a midnight release for Fallout 4. Normies are all shitting themselves in anticipation.

I pre-ordered the collector edition the day it was announced

I cancelled it last week and I'm not planning on buying the regular edition either
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>>315297017
I'd have to agree. New Vegas is probably one of my top 5 and yet if someone says they didn't like it because of
>the bugs at release
>the consent crashing
>alot of areas look ugly as hell
>the strip is unimpressive and only mods can fix it
>almost half the guns that use iron-sights don't even line up correctly.
>the shit ton of cut content
>The overall unimpressive DLC.
Then I honestly have no argument except that its a better fallout game then 3.
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>>315297017
id say its as good as 1 and 2 if you play with a fast travel anywhere mod to skip the boring wasteland bits
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They deliberately make the game look like ass, lack gameplay elements and be filled with bugs because they know modders will fix it and that they'll get 50% of the mod money
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>>315295781
/v/ is so fucking stupid. You guys just don't get it.
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>>315298792
>I cancelled it last week
did the same thing, it only supports apple and samsung anymore so if you have a nonshit phone you may as well need not apply.
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>>315300316
This. I have a shitty windows phone, so it would have been fugged, also the low chinese quality pip boy wasn't worth the 80€ difference (since some websites are selling the game for 50€).

Same goes for Halo 5: the "limited" edition is 100€ while the game is 50€, but it only comes with a shitty DIY model and some papers.

Where are the quality cheap collector editions? Hell, even Duke Nukem Forever had a great edition for cheap.
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>>315297694
case in point
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>>315300540
It's not even the price all you get for FO4 is a steelbook case and the cheapest looking pipboy money can buy. My gf is buying me the game and offered to buy me the LE but it literally looks like shit, it's not the worth the money and in my case it's not even worth it being free.
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>>315295970
They have no standards. All they need is a different name or suffix.
They don't even think about anything what could have gotten worse or not.
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>>315295781
> 90% reused assets

That is a fuckton of speculation even for a shitposting topic anon.
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Tbh
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>>315297219
>Core series gameplay elements remain

This isn't a good thing in that context.
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>>315295970

A lot of people are disappointed it doesn't really look like any progress has been made in the graphics department in the last 7 years.

There are also lots of Bethdrones spouting the "hurrr gameplay>graphics" comments and refusing to take any complaints on board.
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>>315295781
It's Mass Effect 2 all over again.
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>>315301219
the irony is Bethesda absolutely sucks with gameplay and always gets progressive worse with every game they make.
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remember to download all the mods you want asap before they implement paid mods, that way hopefully they won't charge you because you already had em.
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>>315295970
>think
They don't
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>>315300945
It's oviously not 90%, but reusing any assets at all from that piece of shit is a travesty.
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>>315301551
>>315301219
They are also dogshit at programming

This is especially apparent in Morrowind's construction set where many things requires warped logic somersault to get shit to work.
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>>315299347
Is this an edited post about the reason for Quiet's stripperific outfit?
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>>315301921
No Todd, I haven't.
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>>315301921
I never will.
Not when I can just pirate it with all the DLC for free.
Suck my dick, Todd.
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>>315301584
they will release a forced update that disables all installed mods up to that point
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AlChestBreach is going to be so dissapointed with this game
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>>315295970

Even at this gaming/anime con I went to this past weekend people were inordinately excited for it despite all the leaks

We lost, /v/
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>>315295970
Well, Skyrim is still popular as shit on 4chan and it ranked pretty high among some fans. From my experience though lots of people who played Morrowind found it off-putting because they didn't know what to do or just found the setting weird. I heard this even from people who were into rpgs at the time and played shit like BG and BG2, Icewind Dale or Planescape: Torment. Well, maybe Torment fans wouldn't complain about the weird setting.
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Torrent when?
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19 hours
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>>315295781
>surprised when fans are upset

You've been eating shit for so long, I'd be surprised too when suddenly you wouldn't want another serving of big, steamy shit.
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>>315302773
If by 'popular', you means held as an example of how to NOT make an rpg, and the only non-hostile discussions about it revolves around mods.
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>>315303210

Not him, but go to another board beside /v/ sometime
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>>315303210
I meant it ranked pretty high on 4chan. Was thinking about something else. You see it pretty often in 3x3 threads on /v/.
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>>315303514
I did, /vg/ think Skyrim is only worth bothering over mods. Somethingawful think it is a souless one step forward and two steps back. Gamefaqs always talks about its flaw. And I don't have to explain what RPG codex thought of it. Even reddit have plenty of people that knows it is wide as an ocean but deep as a puddle.
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>>315296118
Please stop thinking people who post on the Internet are even a fraction of the total video game market. It will help you to more fully realize the world at large.
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>>315295781

It was probably thrown together in a year.

Just sayin.
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What did they spend all this time on? I'm legitimately confused, Kojima at least made a whole new fucking engine
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>>315295781
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>>315298792
>>315300316

WHY DID YOU CANCEL IT, It's going to be sold either way, you could easily have made $80 off it.
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Can someone get me a link to imgur album with screenshots?
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>>315295970
Everyone on my kikebook who also hypes shit shows like The Walking Dead are hyping it
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>>315304825
Absolutely disgusting, go buy some more amiibos you sub human, I bet you're brasilian or something.
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>>315295781
One question for you smart guy.
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>>315305046
wow lewd
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>>315304720
designing marketing strategies most likely. I can't see what else they could have been doing.

>>315305056
>buggy
not their fault, Zenimax was doing all the beta-testing.
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>>315304973
I do when I find them. I've easily made $3k off selling amiibos and I'm already making 1k~ off selling the Fallout 4 Collectors editions, I just have to ship them when they get hear. It's called economics, supply and demand.
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does bethesda just outsource their game development to india or something? I don't understand how such a large publisher constantly fucks everything up so badly, it's like everyone that works there is an idea guy.
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>>315305205
>I make money off of people on video games

Absolutely disgusting
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>>315305318
Hate to break it to you kid, but your christmas games don't just appear by the tree through magic, your mommy uses money to buy them, and people profit from your mommy buying your video game for you, people make money from selling games, sorry kid.
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>>315305212
>interact with toilet
>drink from it
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>>315305318
It's not just video games, just this last week I bought some printers when they were giving out rebates so I could pick it up for $50 and they were selling for $200, I'll be making around $1k from that.
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>>315295781

They busted their hump to get the target market - women.

Once they convinced girls that it's cool to love games, it's all gravy for them. Women buy based off hype and marketing, rarely criticizing products for quality. Look at the amount of flimsy garbage sold on the dozens of home shopping channels.

Now that they have the female market, they can coast and spend their energy on hype. It's easier to generate hype than it is to develop quality games.
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>>315305524
>americans poo in burgers
>americans eat shit burger
even worse than indians
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>>315305503
>using kid twice in the same sentence

I can sense the fedora from here. But sure, yeah, make money off scamming people instead of being useful to society or creative. I guess you could also get some money off stealing women's purses big guy.
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>>315302304
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>implying
he's gonna love it
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>>315305713
If you don't want scalpers to make money, here's a novel idea, wait for it, you're gonna love this

ahem

Don't buy from them.

wow that's easy, you don't even have to do anything!
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>>315305837
>implying I buy anything vidya related for more than 10€
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>>315305658
>one image from a blogger who is a female
>FO4 CONFIRMED MARKETED TOWARDS CASUAL WOMEN CONFIRMED? MORE AT 11
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>>315302773
>From my experience though lots of people who played Morrowind found it off-putting because they didn't know what to do or just found the setting weird
Cancer, all of them
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>>315305945
Why you getting so butblasted then slugger?
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>>315305976
where do you think we are?
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>black ops II had a better branching storyline than FO4 is going to
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>>315305976
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>>315306036
Because there's so many scammed parents because of people like you, it just makes me mad.
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>>315305976

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>>315295781
>game will still sell millions and buy several GOTY awards
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>>315305976

....
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>>315306253
I agree, that is quite infuriating, especially seeing as how young kids get upset when they don't get what they want.
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>>315306181
>TFW when this is inevitably true and FO4 will likely have a retarded binary [GOOD] and [BAD] ending

>>315306221
>>315305976
>>315305658
It's definitely marketed to women.
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>>315305976

I could do this all day. You could too:

tumblr.com/tagged/fallout
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>>315306759
>that woman
just tumblr
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>>315305976

How dare they criticize graphics!
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>>315306759
>you know she's never beaten the game and probably only 3, maybe NV before giving up shortly after starting
>she'd get all defensive and angry if asked
>"Fuck off, nerd. I'm just as much of a fan as you."
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>>315305821
He hates skyrim
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>>315305976

The ride never ends.
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>>315305658
Lmao. I love how you think Fallout has been anything more than a casual as fuck game for the masses. Stay delusional, friend.
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>>315306759
>those glasses
>that lipstick
>that hair
>that fat

4chn chicks are way better, jesus
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How soon will there be mods, I need to make simms 2.0 white as fast as I can
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>>315307138
>>315306759
>>315306520
>>315306385
>>315306221
>>315305658
I fucking hate these types of women so much, holy shit.

Women are never fucking genuine with anything; they only ever care about surface level shit and "image."
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>>315305976

..
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>>315307390
Man, I would dwell in her vault...
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>>315307390
>women don't buy videogames
>triforce on phone

>that's why Nintendo is dying

I finally understood
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It is the year 2018.

Is Elder Scrolls VI released with the same engine?
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>>315307592
No it's a new different engine for real this time guys we swear.
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>>315305976


Click on it:

http://thekawaiiambassador.tumblr.com/post/132485888221/i-just-preordered-fallout-4

This is Toddposting in its final form.
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>>315295781
Where is the joy in this shitposting? I understand blindly shouting your opinion I guess but when you resort to straight up lieing, what is the reward in that?
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>>315306181
>Black ops II had a better branching story than most modern RPG's
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>>315307592
>Is Elder Scrolls VI
You mean Skyrim 2. Yeah, it's still the same engine. They even reused every single asset from the first game without adding in anything knew. You faggots back in 2015 don't know how good you have it.
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>>315302773
I hated Skyrim. it was all nords and vikings and shit.

no castles, no giant plate armor, no physics on cloth / hair, no spell making.

despite all this Skyrim was still a move forward. None of these things ruined the game.
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http://a.uguu.se/mmzewz.mp4

http://a.uguu.se/ziwjxh.mp4
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>>315308513
>not reacting to the fire
just fuck my shit up todd
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>>315305976

This is the god damned point.

Why bother worrying about /v/irgins crying about dynamic lighting and anti-aliasing when you can just market the product to women, who will buy in to the hype, buy pointless merch like hoodies and posters and shit, and then get all excited and post gifs on their favorite website of girls masturbating to the thought of preordering Fallout 4?

From a business perspective, the female market is 1000x better than the male market.
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I was awaited in Valhalla

Why didn't you buy my game?
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>>315308756

The issue here is audiance size.

The female gamer population (as in, NOT mobile) is very small. The male gaming population is massive, so even if you only appeal to 25% of the males, its still better than 75% of the females.

Business wise, the game is already a success from preorders alone. There is no real other objective way to judge weather or not a game is good, other than sales, btw.
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>>315306934
Why does tumblr think it's acceptable to type like that?
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>>315308513
>Good 'ol USA

Nothing short of poetry, Bethesda
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>>315309143
MEDIOCRE!
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>>315309143
You weren't worthy enough for a V8 death. Your effort was mediocre.
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>>315306759
What have you done to me
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>>315307343
Well these vacuous cunts do anyhow.
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>>315310039
These rabid fucking fans are so pathetic. God these fucking people.
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>>315310039
Are they solely excited for it because others they know are excited? I don't see how anyone who has even mediocre taste in gaming could be hyped after seeing the FO4 footage, let alone be stupid enough to fall for Bethesda's tried and true tactic of releasing an unfinished product and letting the mod community fix it.
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>>315295781
did an image search (google) for OP's image, had the larger version but can't find it.

results?
>pic related.
>pre-order funds well spent.
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>>315296085
I LIVE, I BUY, I LIVE AGAIN!
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>>315310532
>>315310329
I dunno
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>>315307343
i hate women too bro
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>>315310734
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>>315310329
>>315310532
Only on 4chan can I find people getting angry over other people looking forward to a game.
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>>315310830
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>>315310837
Nah you can find that elsewhere です せんぱい
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>>315310837
>Only on 4chan
Hoo boy. There's nothing wrong with being excited, but drawing a comic? Dressing yourself up and excusing all the shitty footage with compression? Oh my, that's some grade-A droning we have. It's not unique to Bethesda, but they have a lot of these pathetic people.
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>>315296478
But the skyrim base and fallout 4 base are
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>>315310039
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>>315295781

>abandoning core series gameplay

Wait what did they change? Anyone have a list?
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Fallout 4 actually resembles ME3 in a lot of ways.

Oh well at least it'll be another good way to identify retards in that aspect.
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>>315307390
thats a man baby
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>>315295970
Reddit seems angry, 4chan is clearly angry.

I'm in a skype chat filled with all the gamers in my company and nearly everyone agrees the game looks terrible in terms of graphics, and most are none too happy about the Skills removal or the dialogue wheel.

The general consensus is "pirate once some decent mods come out"
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>>315310837
>looking forward to a game.
If it was just that, there would be no problem. But no, they have to show everyone in the whole fucking world that they're going to buy this piece of shit. They have to make their involvement an event. Beyond that, they also make any criticism at all fucking impossible because how dare someone insult something they enjoy. Like even if the graphics are dog shit and nowhere near what a fucking 2015 game should look like, they refuse to accept it since their taste is apart of their personality for some reason The offer no actual refutation or legitimate argument, just denying the claim or throwing ad hominem around. And this isn't exclusive to Bethesda by any means, every single popular fanbase has this shit, some worse than others.
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>>315310830
is it male or female?
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>>315311304
holy shit that tali picture, i had almost forgotten about that. how lazy can you be, even a shitty ass last minute doodle would have been better.
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>>315311597
it's tumblr
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>>315311416

>I'm in a skype chat filled with all the gamers in my company and nearly everyone agrees the game looks terrible in terms of graphics
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>>315311789
im still mad about that game 2bh senpai
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>>315311879
He is clearly on the cusp, the leading edge of gaymers opinions.
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>>315311994
>>315311879
Get a job, hippies.
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>>315312186
Tell us more of your insider knowledge, anon.
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anyone has the ,inks for videos?

nearly all of them have been taken down

or is it illegal for me to ask that quesion
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ONLY 6 DAYS TILL GOTY 2015
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>>315311123
i smirked
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>>315311597
probably born female, than started identifying as what ever the fuck it feels like in the past few years
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This thread has gone in a weird direction, it seems shitting on Fallout is snowballing into a meme and now we shit on the fanbase.

Fallout 4 deserves all the shit it can get, I don't get what pulling out random pics of people from the internet and having a circlejerk about it has to do with it
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>>315301921
i can see you
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>>315312186

low quality b8
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>>315312589
/v/ is the worst board on 4chan, and is comprised of only memes. Nobody takes anything in here seriously, and you think something is weird?
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>>315306759
that looks like the new ghostbusters movie
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>>315311304
Don't you mean Inquisition?

Except Bioware at least had the decency to jump to a new engine there
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>>315308513
This game looks like a mix between Skyrim and SWTOR
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>>315296435
normies on reddit?
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>>315312832
>/v/ is the worst board on 4chan
Look at him and laugh.
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>>315312832
The worst memes on all of 4chan always come from /tv/. ALL OF THEM

And you still believe /v/ is the worst board?
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>>315313307
What else is bait/shitposting incarnate?
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>>315312832
Not close. Clearly you've never been to /s4s/, /tv/ or even /b/
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>>315313792
i never understood /s4s/.
is it some kind of containment board for the 12 to 16 years old memesters?
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>>315307343
>woman who 'plays' vidyea gaymes
>wears all kinds of 'geeky' shit
>woman who actually plays video games
>wears normal clothes
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>>315304592
This. A lot of people seem to live in a bubble where they think that only people posting on reddit or /v/ play videogames.
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