>Alternate Steam Machine
>Price: $1,099 USD
>CPU: Intel® Core™ i3-4130
>GPU: NVIDIA® Geforce® GTX 750Ti
>Memory: 8GB DDR3-1600MHz
>Storage: 500GB SSHD
Valve why are you letting this fucking ripoff shit be sold on your store.
I always thought they said they were producing 3 first party models and that was it
>Super cheap streaming box (which Steam Link is at least)
>Affordable mid-range thing that suits most needs
>Retarded super computer for autists.
It could have been simple. Instead the situation hasn't changed at all from what we currently have: hundreds of pre-built machines that are segmented as fuck.
>Valve why are you letting this fucking ripoff shit be sold on your store.
Because they don't fucking care. Because they are a business.
How long till Valvedrones finally stop treating Valve like they are a fucking charity?
ORIGIN OMEGA Steam Machine
>Price: $899 - $4,999+ USD
>CPU: Up to an Intel® Core™ i7 4770k
>GPU: Up to 3-WAY NVIDIA® Geforce® GTX 980
>Memory: Up to 32GB of 1866Mhz
>Storage: Up to 14TB
Who wouldn't want to spend $5000 for 14tb of vidya?
It will NEVER work.
It will just flop and everyone will go back to playing their Xbone/PS4/Wii U and waiting for the new systems in the meantime.
It will be outadvertised by Microsoft and Sony
You think they don't know about this shit?
Valve/PCgamers/PCUCKS make me laugh sometimes.
The simplicity of a console cannot be beaten. You can throw all the hardware you want Valve but it won't work. Plus some people prefer physical copies of games so expect it to also flop.
> GTX 750Ti
I mean asking 1k for that isn't ludicrous. I personally would just buy a PC, but I don't think its asking lot
Solid state is fucking expensive. 500GBs of it is probably where 80% of this price came from
>$1,999 - $4,999
BLUNDER OF THE CENTURY CONFIRMED!
I love /v/'s insightful market analysis. I mean a company like Valve, that has hired economists, all sorts of tech guys and whose platform shows them what their entire userbase is buying, whether it's games or the gardware they use, SOMEHOW knows less than the experts on /v/. Amazing.
Even if that WAS an SSD, 500gb SSDs are not expensive anymore. You can get them for sub-$300 now. Which with that shit of hardware you're spending ~$500, so add in that SSD and you're only spending at max $850. But it's not an SSD, it's a shit SSHD. So nope.
Yes, it fucking is. SSHD also stands for Solid State Hybrid drive, which is a gimmick drive for laptops and single hdd comps.
I doubt the consoles could support themselves solely on hardware revenue. The majority of their profits is most likely from whatever percentage they take off game sales.
Not to mention that the profit margin is extremely low when you factor in R&D and marketing costs.
Free market son. You don't have to buy it if you don't like it.
Giving you options? You'll be able to map it however you want, some people might prefer analogue movement?
It's clear that the trackpad is better in every way when it comes to aiming.
General rule for joining mustard race:
Never buy prebuilt.
Buying prebuilt means you have no idea what you're buying. The people selling it know that.
It's like going to a caryard and asking for "A car that goes 'broom!'" Suddenly everything costs double.
Learn to build your own, buy the parts and make it.
For $1000 you can make a beast that wont get off ULTRA settings for at least 4 years.
It's really not that hard, there's very little that can go wrong when putting a computer together. Just put plugs into about the only sockets they will fit in to.
If you're really lost, ask /g/. But remember they will sperglord all over anything that is recommended by...anyone really.
>Dual core CPU
>8 GB RAM
That shit is worth $400 tops, unless they have a $400 motherboard and a $400 PSU in there.
This is what kind of rig you can get with $760:
There is no shortage of pre-built manufacturers who just want to rip people off, and that's why I started building instead of buying.
I watched a video somewhere explaining it.
Apparently the pads have 1:1 motion and can almost be too precise for some actions like walking. Like when you only slightly move the stick to walk slowly.
im explaining it poorly
> overpriced gear
Yea, Apple, gaming consoles and l33t gaming pre-built computers have been doing this all along.
I can only recommend to not let yourself be ripped off like a sucker. Computers can be pretty amazing for their price.
eleven thousand american burgers for an i3 build and a videocard i bought last year for $80?
so this is the power of valve gaming..... wow
Most cases come with fans. CPUs come with a shitty CPU cooler, but if you're not planning on overclocking it's good enough. If you want to make things easy on yourself just buy a complete kit from Newegg.
The point of these isn't to kill consoles in November. It isn't even to kill consoles by 2020. The OEMs selling these will probably be happy to see 3-5 million sales in the next two or three years.
The whole point of this is to fill a niche that has been abandoned by the console market in their race to lock hardware down, and to give system builders from the big OEMs like Dell, to the small local guys a new product that they can sell, and home builders a new option for a cheap machine other than pirating Windows.
With x86 SOCs with decent graphics hardware on the horizon combined with Vulkan's increased performance we could very easily have systems that cost what a console costs with better performance. Its not something everyone will want, but it will carve out a sustainable niche for PC gaming outside of the control of tablet companies.
Then you deserve to have your money taken because PC building is so goddamn simple.
It's much easier now than it was 10-15 years ago, that's for sure. Literally just screws and plugs, 99% fits one-way and only in one spot.
Wow. It's even way fucking worse than a fucking Mac.
This is just impressive, really.
>from the company that created the gaming PC
Hold on a second I have to dust off my reaction image.
I'd say Valve is going for Steam Link and VR above everything, their audience already have pcs so that's what users are probably more inclined to buy. Steam machines are a plus, hence they're not actually making them
Sure, you can build your own pc if you're so damn lucky that you had a friend working at a pc repair shop show it to you or you have your dad working as an engineer or something. I hate using this word, but you can't even understand how privileged you are. For the rest of us, building your own pc is not just "oh, of course I know where to plug each of these 15 cables".
I tried it once, after a few hours of trying I gave up and just brought the half-assembled machine to a repair shop. It turns out I broke both my CPU and video card, and in total it cost me over $600 more than just buying prebuilt.
There's still no generally available SOC that's the equivalent of the consoles, let alone better than them. Until AMD's Zen comes out we may not see a better single chip solution and that will keep the price relatively high.
Though not this high, some of these machines are just plain rip offs, and I'm not sure why Valve is allowing them unless they're in foreign countries and VAT and international shipping and other crap is factored into that cost.
Anyone here thinking about a Steam Machine should probably be building their own. I know that's what I'm going to do to get my friends and relatives off consoles.
GODDAMIT I THOUGHT FOR A SECOND IT HAD THE BROTHERHOOD OF NOD MARK ON THE SIDE
My brother built his PC last year, it took him like a week because he had to watch a ton of videos just to make sure he was doing it ruined right. Then there's the risk that something might break if you're too forceful. And certain parts will only work with only other compatible parts. I'm not autistic so i understand why a lot of people choose not to build a PC. People who are so triumphant about it are the same who only gain affirmation through their video games 'skill'.
That is why I always tell first time builders to take it easy, and to not spend more than $700.
As for Steam Machines, these will really take off in a few years when single board PCs start to be capable of playing games acceptably, and outside of developed countries SteamOS seems tailor made for net cafes where now you could keep the gaming PC locked in the back with just a cheap $50 box hooked up to the screen which can be a cheap HDTV instead of a computer monitor.
Sorry to break it to you dude, but your brother is retarded. I bumbled my way through building my PC only having spent 5 minutes skipping through a video. Took about 2 hours reading off of the manual.
All these triggered autists. /v/ never ceases to amaze me
>750 ti is more powerful than PS4's gpu
It's not though. It's faster than the Xbone's but not the PS4.
270X/270/7870>PS4>7850/R7 265>750 Ti>R7 260X/7790>Xbone
However, the PS4's held back by an abysmal CPU. That really can make all the difference if it's too slow.
Even mini itx is too big and too expensive. Think about stuff like the Raspberry Pi, today x86 hardware is too expensive for a project like that but in a few years it won't be unreasonable to find a pico itx board with a $20 x86 core on it that will be able to run a lot of games.
See the problem there is that the PS4 doesn't have a discrete CPU and GPU. It has one SOC chip so saying its equivalent to a discrete card if only it had a better CPU is nonsense.
Yeah I don't really see what everyone here is getting so mad about.
WE ARE NOT THE TARGET MARKET. Simple as that. These things being popularized can only mean good things for pc gaming and hardware prices. We profit from those who wish to play pc games with no effort in their living rooms. And with VR on the horizon and Valve's tracking solution being amazing, I suspect PC gaming is about to get more popular than it already is.
More people entering this market is a good thing for us. No ones forcing you to buy overpriced hardware.
Since I never stated I can't build my own pc and yet you got so buttfucked about nothing, I'm assuming you're really autist or at least a person with seriously bad social skills
Cood to know you calmed your shit, now we can be friendos
On paper, the PS4's GPU is faster. It's specced between the 7870 and 7850, both of which are faster than the 750 Ti.
However, there's no real way to just up and compare the GPU itself to other systems using the same CPU, so wouldn't comparing a single GPU to a SOC be just as nonsensical?
The gaymen industry really just doesn't even hide it anymore, does it? They think GAYMURZ will just pay any amount for anything pandered at them that's the most "leet" and "hardcore" to "own" the "newbs" with. It's honestly kind of insulting to think that we're viewed as some stupid manchildren who need our own stupid manchildren stuff..... gamer grub, those yellow gaming glasses, these 1337 steam machines WITH 32 RAMS TO HELP YOU GET FRAGS FASTER
>WAH! I CAN'T BUILD A PEE SEE
holy fucking shit you children make me sick.
20 years ago, kids your age were rebuilding carbs, you can't even manage "Triangle connector into triangle slot"
You don't deserve to be called a man. We need a sub-catagory for people like you. Maybe "noballers". the kind of person who can't clean a rifle, or takes his car to the dealership for a tire rotation and oil change
Something like this would be better.
Might need to do some checking on some parts, but for the basic parts, cpu/gpu/ram its a solid start.
This will be about 2-3x better than the steam machine.
>they think gaymurz qwill just pay any amount
the Xbox 360 Elite was a prime example of this being a fact. The typical dudebro ego has increased 10 fold over the past decade, they have to have the product that is marketed as hardcore or else they feel like inferior, while completely unaware that they're being scammed.
In the real world though its not faster because its clock limited because of the lower thermal overhead, it has no dedicated memory, and of course its tied to a CPU that by PC standards is a bit of a joke.
That's why review sites have to start reviewing whole systems instead of trying to isolate components. SOCs are going to become more and more common, and the vast majority of users buying machines today get integrated graphics.
There's a reason that all is true, unfortunately.
this must be what its like to be a woman and be marketed at, with stuff like "just make it pink, and those dumb bitches will buy it"
They come with the Gabepad, I haven't heard that they include the Steam Link, but for some of the high end ones it wouldn't surprise me if four controllers and a Steam Link was factored into the cost.
>Valve why are you letting this fucking ripoff shit be sold on your store.
Well with technology and games being a big part of every day life now, men are constantly competing with each other in their teen years to prove who is better at what. So when a product comes out that is marketed as hardcore, 1337, and "exclusive", they will buy it as fast as they can just so they can brag to their friends and feel superior.
It's what happens when normies pick up any trend, they will stop at nothing to make themselves look better than others so they can appear to be cool, and they won't stop until they run the subject into the ground.
I mean, I understand "cancer" is a considered a meme around here, but it truly is like a cancer.
I'm reminded of a couple of coworkers at my last job. They were always talking about <insert latest AAA vidya here> non-stop and how hype they were, and they'd order <insert latest AAA vidya here> to the office, and unbox it, and talk about how hype they were to play it, then go home and beat it and one sitting. They would never talk about the game again... instead they'd start talking about <insert next latest AAA vidya here>. Never once would they even be aware of anything that wasn't <insert latest AAA vidya here>.
Like fucking goy zombie locusts -- just CONSUME CONSUME MUST CONSUME TRIPLE A VIDEO GAMES CONSUME.
they even bought prebuilt gaymen pcs from >>>>>>>>ibuypower
The perfect modern h4rd0cre gaymerz.
Steam Link was also confirmed to be $50. The only way they'd get $250 would be four Gabepads and a Steam Link, which is maybe what some of these idiots are doing.
Or maybe they're setting their initial price high so that when they launch lower the competition won't have time to undercut them, and so that clueless people will say "Wow, regular price $1000 but I'm getting it for $600? What a deal!"
SteamOS really has no purpose other than building/buying a steam machine, honestly. Anyone with a brain wanting to build a Linux powered rig would just install Debian, then Steam.
SteamOS literally gimps your machine into a console, so it should never be installed on a desktop
>SteamOS literally gimps your machine into a console, so it should never be installed on a desktop
maybe that's exactly what some people want, a console with better specs and library
Right, but if what you want is a living room machine to use as an HTPC and to play games then its perfect. You can run Kodi on SteamOS and have something that we haven't really been able to do since XBMC was locked out of running on console hardware.
Sounds like you're mad they're having fun? Indie and AAA alike, lots of people finish a game and move on to the next. That's typically what video games are for, outside of multiplayer FPS/MMORPGs.
That's wrong though. Most parts have a default of a minimum 1 year warranty, up to lifetime, and you usually have to pay for any warranty on prebuilts. Best case offer is typically 1 year parts only and it's limited, and takes 3 months to get your PC back instead of a 2 week turnaround RMA for the single part.
Tricking Newegg is easy. Dealing most manufacturers is not. I dont consider those warranties legit. You have to go as far as saving the static wrap in pristine condition for replacement parts.
Oh whoops didn't notice it there.
How the fuck is that case that expensive holy shit.
WHAT THE FUCK
HOW IS THIS ACCEPTABLE
HTPC cases will almost always be $65-100. Not sure why, I guess because they have to design it with more care as to allow airflow and space for hardware, but that's just the trend.
Could you build a computer that size with the same specs for less money?
not even alienware overcharges like that
I understand it's Linux and can do the same things as any other distro, I'm just curious as to how you would launch it, since Steam big picture autostarts on boot.
We don't own steam, he does.
It's right here you DOUBLE NIGGER
The original Valve Steam Machine case looked quite nice and contained full fledged parts. If they somehow will ever release that, you could build a computer in there.
Who are steam machines for?
consolefags are 90% teens and children, their parents aren't going to buy them this shit. Way too expensive
mustards already have rigs, if they want to do couch gaming they could do in home streaming or just move their pc
just seems like it's going to be a huge flop