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>go to /v/ >see all the rightful criticism of The Orde

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>go to /v/
>see all the rightful criticism of The Order charging full price for a 5 hour game
>check other sites
>they are actually defending and supporting short games

What the actual fuck is going on? I don't mind if a game is short if it is priced to reflect the shortness but this shit is insane.

http://pastebin.com/BA9JMkRP
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Its almost like all of the people in vidya journalism are paid mouthpieces for publishers and devs.

But that can't be right because there are so few strong women in games, right? Isn't that what GG was about?
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>>283554802
They know exactly what the public opinion is and then make an article attacking it so people explode and go nuts on it and give them tons of clicks.

Just ignore it because they're retarded
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>Go to other websites
>they have a vested interest in not stepping on toes
>spin obvious negative points as positives
>call people sane enough to not buy this bullshit children or uncultured baboons or what the fuck ever to discredit them
>make advertising shekels
>go home and cry
>try to commit suicide again
>fail, then go to sleep

don't be such a fucking entitled child, leave game reviews to the professionals like the guy I just described.
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>>283554802
>Ben Cuckchera
Really. What did you expect?
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I mean intentionally shorter games wouldn't necessarily be bad if they were proportionally cheaper
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>>283554802
It's inflammatory clickbait. They're trying to make you angry.
Just... just ignore it. Until people start expounding that in the actual companies that make games, it's not going to affect anything.
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>>283554802

So is this the next big thing? Mainstream sites trying to push the idea that short full priced games are okay so devs can pad their profits by charging full price for less content?
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>>283554802
>Ben Kuchera
come on son..
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The perfect length for a videogame is about 90 minutes. And that should be all cutscenes, there's really no need to have any buttons to press to advance the story. i don't want to have to do the action bits, I would prefer to just watch them being acted out instead. And instead of releasing it for a console, they could play it in the cinema instead so me and my partner can make a night out of it and watch it on a big screen.
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Short games are fine if they offer replay value.
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the fact that this guy is allowed to earn a living writing about video games boggles my mind
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Reviewers love short games because it means they can get their piece written in a day and spend the rest of the month writing clickbait.
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>>283555120
How long do you think this tactic will continue to work?
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>>283556026

He owns his own house, has several cars, several kids that go to private school, goes on multiple vacations each year. I don't get it. Maybe his wife is a doctor or something.
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>>283554802
Well gee, Skyrim must be the best game in the world then.
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>>283556240
Forever, just look at stuff like the daily mail in the UK.
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>>283555925
Perfect
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>>283556240
As long as people still get angry at them.
There might be some sort of blowout where they're finally considered on the same level as tabloids, but until then opinion pieces will always work for clicks.
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This industry is poop
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>>283556240
Just look at gamergate.
It'll work forever.
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People who don't like video games don't want long games with lots of gameplay, they want short games that they can invest barely any time into in order to complete so that they can discuss it with their other friends who don't actually enjoy video games but pretend that they do.
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Are you really surprised? Check this interview from a few months ago with The Order's creative Director. Pic Related

http://www.p4rgaming.com/ready-at-dawn-while-making-the-order-1886-sometimes-we-forgot-we-were-making-a-game/
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>MFW this is the industry now
>Wishing I was back in the mid-nineties

Why can't we have good vidya anymore?
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>>283554802
ben kenchura has never written an article of worth. its like he finds some sort of common sense and decides to write from the opposite point of vew
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I think there's a place for everything. Sometimes i want a long experience, with the original Deus Ex for instance, which i put about 40 hours in, when i finally stopped playing it i felt bad, i was so used to the universe and the characters, and now they were gone from my routine.
And sometimes i just want a short game to distract me, like Binary Domain, or any other indie game that is clogging my library.
Of course, i didn't paid 60 dollars for BD, nor would i for those indie games.
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I don't mind shorter games, but I'd like if the prices reflected the content. 60 dollars being consistent across the board makes little sense given the vast disparity between playtime available to people through different titles. I don't mind paying full price for Skyrim, AC, Dark Souls, or something else which promises lots of main and side content. But The Order, and games similar to it, shouldn't be more than 40 at most.

I remember the PS2 had games like this. It was so satisfying picking up a new Ratchet or Jak game for 40 dollars, knowing you were getting a better game than its neighbors on the shelf, and for 10 dollars less.
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>>283554802
>Ben Cuchera
Found your problem
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>>283556740
>p4r
It's not like i thought the regular /v/ user was intelligent, but c'mon.
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>>283556740
"Well show people the importance of story by making a game with shitty gameplay but amazing story!"

Or they could just not make video games.
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>>283556740
You realize it isn't real right? Check their other articles. p4rgaming is The Onion of video games
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>>283556740
>some alt history steam punk magic electric shit with tesla and werewvoles
>we wanna make a movie

kek
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>>283556740
>p4r
anon I have some bad news
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>western game industry
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>>283556740
Anon please
try that on 9gag or something
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>>283556740
are you stupid or something

that's the video game version of the onion
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Journalists love short games, means they actually get to finish them.
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>>283556740

>p4rgaming

Ah, almost got me.
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>>283556740
I love p4r, They are the best game journos around!
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>>283554802
>Ben " Going full-cuck on the nignog truck " Kuchera
>Ben " Sharing my wife, that is my life " Kuchera

What did you expect ?
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>>283556740
>p4r
Their articles are funny and are pretty spot on, but you need to realize that it's satire.
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>>283557182
according to p4r Polygon are the best game journos around though. ben kenchura being the best of them all
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the order's sex scene
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3b6ms39tgmo
>cinematic experience
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>game reviewers who get their games for free and have to play tons of them to get paid don't care about how long a game is

WOW
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>>283557075
This. I've completely given up on western games. Say what you want about moeshit or whatever, but at least japan can still make fun games (mostly) without a buttfucking of DLC
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Videogames were co-opted by rejects from the film industry and people pushing political agendas.
Welcome to 2005 you gay faggot
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>>283554802
I don't want you guys to feel gypped, but I fundamentally disagree with the notion that value has anything to do with playtime.
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>>283557291

sauce on pic pl0x
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>>283554802
Let's be honest with ourselves for a minute, /v/. This is, what I'm guessing, the industry would like. Movies are inclusive, and the amount of time it takes to produce and QA a 2-3 hour game versus a 30-40 hour game is probably much lower. From a business standpoint, they're probably looking at it as time they could spend making/producing multiple 2-3 hour games in the same time span, all while courting more of the mainstream audience. It's all absolutely disgusting and cancerous, but I can honestly see the writing of the wall. The only way to combat this shit realistically is to not buy those products, and be extremely vocal about why you're not. Finances speak louder than anything to investors and stockholders. If gamers turn their noses up to this shit, they'll stop doing it. Same deal with Evolve. It's already happening in the music industry, with album sales being bottom tier in 2014, with only Taylor Swift having a platinum album last year. We need to do the same to the game companies.
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>>283557075
Sony is japanese
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>guy posts controversial opinion so people will click on it and he'll get money
>WHY IS HE BEING CONTROVERSIAL

Why is /v/, home of endless bait and trolling, unable to comprehend baiting for a living?
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Remember when /v/ didn't give a shit about graphics or length?

Back in the day if a game was fun to play then it was considered good.
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>>283554802

>gaming journalists defending the hands that feed them

And you're surprised why?
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>>283556240
Literally for as long as there are people
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>>283557425
yo kidin
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Who cares about their shit anyway? Pretty much everyone realized that they need to talk shit like this to get as much views as possible and stay relevant. Seriously, every single post or thought piece that was actually worth reading came from communities. Be it Gaf, Reddit or 4chan. Those journos NEVER EVER said anything of relevance.
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>>283557512
Too bad The Order fails at that too.
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>Ben Kuchera

Of course it would be him.
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>>283557512
I remember. But the order isn't a game.
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>>283557291
THIS GAME HAS PROSTITUTES!
THIS IS PROBLEMATIC!!!
Tropes vs Women in THE ORDER when?
Will Ben "Cucking hard" Cuchera change his view on the game after anita blasts it?
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>>283554802
The Order guys must've shoveled out a lot of money with their marketing team.

As for me, I don't care how long or how short the game is. I care how enjoyable it is per hour, so to speak. From there, I would judge if it is worth my money.
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I agree though, I can't be bothered to play through 200+ hours RPGs anymore. I'd rather play a 10 hour long game I can actually beat.
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>>283557667
Have you even played it?
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>>283557889
maybe you should stop playing video games then, you faggot
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>>283557845

It is a game, all your shitposting won't change that.
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>>283554802
>polygon
This website should be banned. You all know these people suck the dick of anyone that will give them money. They don't give a shit about video games.
>>283556872
Like if this is anything new. People don't even realize that there are a whole lot of old games that were short. You can beat metal gear solid in 3 hours or less if you aren't mentally retarded.
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>>283554802
>posting clickbait
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>>283557962

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF WHAT DID YOU FUCKING CALL ME?
A FAGGOT?
DO YOU FUCKING KN OW WHAT FAGGOT EVEN MEANS? IT MEANS A HOMOSEXUAL. A FUCKING QUEER. A WHOOPSY. A PRANCING LALA FRUITY BOY. YOU COME HERE, AND CALL ME FUCKING THAT? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MANY GIGABYTES OF PORNOGRAPHY FEATURING ONLY FUCKING !!!FEMALES!! I HAVE? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MANY TIMES A DAY I MASTURBATE TO THIS COLLECTION, HOW MANY HOURS I SPEND EXPANDING IT? NO, NO YOU FUCKING DON'T, YOU JUST COME IN HERE AND MAKE A FUCKING JUDGEMENT ON ME LIKE YOu"RE SOME KIND OF JUDGER OF FAGS WHEN I STILL SMELL OF THE SEMEN FROM JACKING IT TO THE PUSSY OF A FUCKING FEMALE THIS BOARD ISN"T FUCKING /GAY/ ALRIGHT IT'S /V/

WHIPE THAT SMILE OFF YOUR FUCKING FACE. I BET I HAVE AT LEAST TEN TIMES THE AMOUNT OF PICTURES OF VAGINA YOU DO, FAGGOT FAG FAG FRUITY WHOOPSY DOO-DOO LAA LAA SCOUT BOY GET THE FUCK OFF MY BOARD
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>>283557962

Maybe you should shut up and deal with the fact that other people like things you don't and devs will make games that cater to us as well.
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>>283557906
I watched like half of it, same thing since there is like 0 interactivity.

It was no joke the most boring couple hours of my life
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>>283557350
Yeah apart from a few good studios like Retro and Wayforward the Western industry is filled with cinematic cashgrabs and shitty "retro" indie games.

The sjw bullshit and "journalism" are largely ingored by the Nips too thankfully.
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>>283558116

>watched it
>no interactivity

WELL NO SHIT
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>>283554802
>The Order
>Anything more than "litterly what" shovelware since day one.
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>>283554802

I fucking hate modern vidya journalism, especially Ben Kuchera

>We hated Donte
>They called us entitled
>We hated DLC
>They defended DLC
>We hated getting broken games
>They defended them
>We hated being told we're mysoginists for enjoying Bayonetta 2
>They called us terrorists
>We hate that a 5 hour game is $60
>They call us entitled

Why are we even acknowledging this faggot
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>>283558031

>pastebin
>clickbait

neo-/v/ ladies and gentlemen
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>>283558031
>being a pedo scumbag
Slavic loli best loli
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>>283557906
I usually hate people who go "I don't need to play it to know it's shit", but honestly, it's absurdly easy to tell it isn't fun by just watching the playthrough. The majority of it is just cutscene, QTE, or slow controlled walk through a hallway while talking, with occasional generic cover shooting.
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It's nice to have a couple of delusional sonyggers in here. They always lighten up the mood.
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>>283558204

>>We hated getting broken games
>>They defended them

Um, when did this happen?
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>>283558261

So you haven't played it, and don't know what you're talking about?
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>>283557350
>Immediately cry about dlc
>not actual core problems with games
Jesus it's fags like you that make sure literally nothing nice ever happens
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>>283558313

Literally last year with Watch Dogs, Sims 4, The Crew, and pretty much every other Ubisoft game anon
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Why not use their own logic against them?

Call them classist for supporting such high barriers to entry. If they want gaming to be inclusive then why do they to charge $60 for a 5-6 experience when films can do <$15 for 3 hour experiences. Accuse them of shutting people out just to accommodate their own personal tastes and lifestyles etc.
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>>283558212
he's talking about the content you aspie
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>>283557889
Then maybe it's time to move on to something for your shitty attention span, like movies. Nobody has to cater to you specifically, and if you don't like epic RPGs, instead of whining about the amount of content, fuck off and stop playing them, and stick to something more in tune with your attention span, you nob.
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>>283554802
It wouldn't be so bad if it was fun enough to replay.
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>>283558212
I literally don't care about anything posted by guys like this and neither should you. The thread's just gonna be circlejerking about how stupid he is while simultaneously getting him more attention.

>>283558465
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I never got the whole equating game length to price concept.

Some of the best games ever made are short as FUCK.

Most of the time, people use game length as a general metric for the amount of content in a game, but game length has nothing to do with how much content is in a game. You could have a JRPG with 5 hours of content but 35 hours of grinding. Is that game worth a full 60? Probably not.

I'm not saying Order 1886 is a good game, there are TONS of problems with it, of which the length is probably number 997 on the thousand-item list.

Just, if you're going to shit on a game, even rightfully, there are so many other ways to go about it that aren't as easily deflected or argued against as game length.
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>>283555051
GG is about not allowing developers to sleep with journalists for high reviews.
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>>283558462
>logic

It isn't about logic you dense motherfucker, it's about getting you riled up so you'll give them pageviews
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>>283558116
So you've never actually played the game and you're just parroting. It would be more interactive and exciting if you weren't watching Lets Plays like some sort of autist.
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>>283554802
Am I the only person on /v/ who enjoyed the game?

I like all types of games, and feeling one as unique as this was pretty cool. It could've been longer though. Wouldn't recommend it at full price, maybe $30. Then again, I bought Drakengard 3 at full price and fucking loved it
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>pay $60 to mash 1 button and watch a 2 hour movie

Truly dark times we live in.
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>>283558490

You're the one whining here about what other people like or don't like.
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>>283558415
>sims 4
>ubisoft

>every other Ubisoft game
You mean to say that Far Cry 4, Assassin's Creed Rogue and Valiant Hearts were broken?
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>>283558097
Not that guy, but maybe you should fuck off out of genres that aren't meant for casual faggots like yourself, and stick to movies and Telltale games.
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>>283554802
>another e-celeb thread
>lets discuss this "important" man's opnion
>we tmz now
>its only ok if you pretend not to like it
https://sys.4chan.org/v/imgboard.php?mode=report&no=283554802


in media business, even if you talk negatively about some people, that still gives them relevance to remain famous

when will you fags understand that following and repeating what this man says will only boost the reach of his messages ?

do you enjoy paying your internet to advertise for free ?
my god, daytime /v/ sure is a clusterfuck of pretentious underaged discussing "muh portant pnions"
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>>283558647
>pretty much
>reading comprehension
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>>283558234
Annemarie a best.
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>>283554802

Why does this idiot have a vested interest in defending The Order 1886? I thought he was an SJW?

A game with only white character and doesn't pander to SJWs shouldn't be defended by SJWs.

Oh, wait, now I know why. Because this piece of shit doesn't have any dignity and will just post anything he thinks will create controversy.

He needs a bullet to the brain.
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>>283554802
>ben cuckchera
lel
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>>283558415

I don't recall anyone defending the broken games. Quite the contrary, I remember a big backlash of outlets shitting on them for being broken.
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>>283557525
Well then, we have our work cut out for us.
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>>283558360
You're an idiot. You can watch an LP and "experience" the game, you jackass.
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>>283558234
>slavic loli
>not ROMANTIC

Wow. Fucking wow. You have no taste.
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>>283558616

Free market.

Don't like it?

Don't buy it.
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>>283558736
There was a few, yes, but they still got rave reviews didn't they>
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>>283558607
Paying $60 for five hours of game puts a foul taste in most people's mouths, especially if they're a poorfag and wasted three months of expendable money on this.
Five hours. Jesus.
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i'm a lot more interested in this now that ben kuchara is defending it. that must mean it takes some emotional skill to play rather than the dumb timewasting button mashing designers usually produce to placate the children that need to be expunged from video games.
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:^)
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>ben kooch
>writing anything but complete horseshit
The dude is worthless scum.
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>>283554802
Welcome to the DmC "you just hate the white hair" bullshit.

For the most part, these people are not good at videogames. They are rather bad. A lot of them are in it for "the culture", a culture of their own making.

What they want is an experience that looks cool but doesn't really beget much depth. You press buttons, directionally, towards some goal but how or when you do them doesn't really matter.

If it antagonizes "traditional" gamers in some way, even better. The spite is quite real, anon.
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>>283558657

But I do.

And I want more story intensive shorter games.

And the devs are happy to oblige.
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>>283558643
No, bitch, you're the one who whined about not having time for 200 hour RPGs. I'm just the guy calling you out for your blatant faggotry.
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Its really gotten to a point where they'll fight anything the gaming community says.

Llike, they're so desperately trying to "put gamers in their place" that they're turning into as large of a contrarion hivemind as /v/ is.

Shits unbelievable, how far can a human being go just to spite someone else?
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>>283558842
I won't buy it, thanks. I also won't stop talking about how retarded it is that games like it get made and are praised/acceptable.
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>>283558885
>paying even 40 bucks for 5 hours of entertainment
>not even a guarantee that it will be entertaining
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>>283558885

I'm pro-SJW and anti-GG and even I think this guy is an idiot.
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>>283554802
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=198351&page=1
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>>283558982

Where did I whine about anything? I said I like shorter games.

You're the one getting upset about someone liking something you don't like.
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>>283557009
Not that it applies here, but P4R will rarely just reblog/copy a completely real article.
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>>283554802
Stop making this thread. Everyone here is aware. You didn't release it, neither did I. At this point all that's happening is hot air being blown up each other's asses.

Buy or don't buy. But shut up already.
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>>283558691
>moot makes an anonymous board
>one of the highest ideals of the board is that people can say whatever they want, and they'll be judged on the content of their post not who they are
>neo 4chan does nothing but obsess over e-celebs and twitter screencaps

I miss this board being its own community instead of a place for reddit and twitter to come gossip
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>>283558946
Then stop bitching about genres that don't concern you, faggot.
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>>283558852
If it counts, the visuals are pretty damn slick, and the gameplay is there, even if it is often tainted by quicktime events

in any case, one the nintenfag shitstorm blows over, people will be able to discuss the game normally. this always happens with a major sony release. bloodborne'll probably be shat on the day before it comes out

>tfw nintenfags tried to shit on drakengard 3 but it was already shit
and thats what makes it good
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>>283557291
SEXIST FILTH!
So polygon supports rape culture, that's interesting!
They probably avoided playing that turd further than 5 minutes in anyways.
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>>283557641
Fuzzbeed is arguably better games journalism than shitaku and polytrash.
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>>283558116
>I watched like half of it
>0 interactivity

Your modern "gamer", ladies and gentleman.
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>>283554802
>"I absolutely understand," he said. "To tell you the truth, that's something we always keep in our heads. We know people want to be entertained and have things they can play longer. But the industry has always had diversity. You go back 10 years, there were a lot of games that were just single-player, one time play. There were some games that were single-player and you could jump back in and get more. That's what we did in our game. You can jump back and get other things out of it.

>"Gameplay length for me is so relative to quality. It's just like a movie. Just because a movie is three hours long, it doesn't make it better."

ps4 owner here this makes me sick
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>>283559052
>I'm pro-SJW
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>>283554802
>One clickbait article to rule them all
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>>283559168
>instead of a place for tumblr, steam users, reddit and twitter to come gossip without losing their accounts*
fixed that for you
/v/ is nothing but underaged wardrones now
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>>283559052
>pro sjw
>ever
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>>283554802
I'd rather have a shorter game that's actually fun instead of filler filled snorefests that overstay there welcome by a long shot.
Only hikkineets that literally have nothing else to do bitch about games being too short
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>>283558846
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/assassins-creed-unity

It got fucking shit on
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>>283559192

I'm not bitching about them.

>>283559296

Yes, as are most normal people.
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>>283559030
They showed their true faces six months ago. As much as the GG thing has dragged out, it's so apparent that sites like Kotaku and Polygon have nothing but contempt for their audience. They're desperately trying to create a new one because of it.
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjeyiXYuDS4
>You and I? We are not that different
>QTE boss fight
Fuck this "experience".
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>>283554802
Things like this makes me want to review video games so I can do it right.
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>>283559198
The modern gaming audience as a whole shat on Drakengard 3 more than any one fanbase. That includes modern sony fanboys.
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>>283554802
He means penis
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>>283559392
>Yes, as are most normal people.
Ahaha
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Journos exist to parrot whatever statements make the corporations they subsist off of more money.

Framerate and resolution are only relevant in two situations:

1: A new console generation is coming and better visuals are the only thing you can sell your console on. Sony, Microsoft and all the journos wouldn't shut up about how important framerate and resolution were until the new consoles actually came out and turned out to be shit.
2: You're re-releasing a game on a more powerful console less than a year later, it's a lazy re-release and the only thing you can sell it on is higher resolution and framerate. Framerate didn't matter for Uncharted or The Last of Us, but it mattered for The Last of Us Remastered and it will matter for the inevitable Uncharted Trilogy Remasterd. But it won't matter for Uncharted 4.

Likewise, as games become shorter and less interesting, journos decide to prioritize those "features" as the best gaming has to offer.

We already know thanks to GG and that Breitbart guy that journos collude together in a mailing list to work together to engineer narratives in the gaming industry.
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>>283554802
>Sony makes up bullshit like how the PS4 was supposed to run games at 60 FPS on a 1080p resolution
>It isn't true
>Goes on and pays journos to shout how it doesn't matter, and how silky smooth 30 FPS is better.

>Sony lies once again about The Order
>Dials their lackeys once again.

You know this is money that could have gone into the game, I am under the impression they throw their gaming divisions a bone, and their retarded PR department handles everything, as they snort coke. I am going to rejoice when Sony goes Bankrupt, at this point it keeps on living because Disney paid Sony enough cash to recover Spider-man after the bastards kept the franchise hostage, that money will let Sony keep at it until 2022.

The worst part is that Ready (to close) at Dawn will get unbelievable amounts of shit for this.

Funny how Sony is starting to compete with EA for /v/ hatred.
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>>283558691
Ignoring an infection will not make it go away.
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>>283554802
>Earlier thread about him saying some dumb shit on twitter
>Now a thread about him saying dumb shit on Polygon
Why is this allowed?
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>>283559392
>Yes, as are most normal people.
>pro SJW
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>>283559505
>We already know thanks to GG

LOL

Maybe you just figured it out, but the rest of us knew this shit 20 years ago
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>>283559392
>normal people
normal is a cycle on your washing machine and not much else
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>>283559541

Wait, what did they lie about, other than the "It's not less than 5 1/2 hours long" stuff?
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>>283559367
how these people can defend feminism and islam in the same breath i'll never understand
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>>283559602
You knew that dozens of prominent gaming journalists were on a mailing list called GameJournoPros where they bully each other into agreeing to print the same articles at the same time across multiple publications with only minor differences?
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>>283559461
and yet it still managed to be GOTY

people who shitpost on drakengard are either newfags or retards, as the turdiness is all apart of the formula
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>>283556740
It actually took me until half of the article until I realized it was satire.
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>>283559589

Well yes. Hence why gg has lost and is publicly derided in national and international media.
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Is there any replayability? Because short games can be fine if you can have multiple plays.
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>>283557425
Learn to read
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>>283559689
They don't need no logic
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>>283559750
No. You can't even skip the cutscenes.
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I get the feeling that social justice crusaders in gaming just have a predisposition to going against the status quo. If prevailing gamer culture says right, they say left. They want to feel as though they are always being advocates for change and spiting the majority view.
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Quantity =/= Quality =/= Price

Trolls and shitposting belongs on /b/.
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>>283559689
Literal cognitive dissonance. Show's where their priorities are though, the values of western civilization need to be destroyed. The instrument doesn't really matter so much when it comes down to it.
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>>283559747
>Hence why gg has lost and is publicly derided in national and international media.
gg never lost and the only people who are deriding it are the people gg is fighting against
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>>283554802
There's nothing wrong with short games. Short games are better than grindfest skinner boxes.

Full price? Well there's a cost benefit analysis there. Everybody has their own buy price for a game.
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>>283559689
How /pol/ can jerk off about conservative values and hate Islam in a single breath I'll never understand
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>>283559425
>my opinion is law
There are people who don't have a shit load of time to play vidya, why those people would pick a time consuming hobby is beyond me. I'l assume that that's an insignificant minority and he's just being hyperbolic.
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>>283559718

And?

Games media had always relied upon devs for pre release copies of games, interviews, exclusives, prizes, and most importantly advertising which is a massive conflict of interest. It's always been like that.

GG was just /pol/ and MRA's using muh ethics to harass women and SJW's.
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>>283560010
My buy price for movies lies around $10
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>>283559919
but
quantity = price

I'm never going to pay $60 for 5 hours of gameplay, it doesn't matter how good those 5 hours might be.
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>>283558568
Or you know, just not being corrupt dicks in general.
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>>283560060
Yes, there's always been a massive conflict of interest, but I doubt most people suspected journos worked together of their own volition to do these things.
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You guys are attacking the wrong points

The game is just a bland shooter, even if it was 30 hours it would still be lame.
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>>283559718
I knew that someone was literally fired from IGN for not giving a game a high enough score.
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>>283559978

>gg never lost

Ahahhhahahhahahah wow.
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>>283559505
>1: A new console generation is coming and better visuals are the only thing you can sell your console on. Sony, Microsoft and all the journos wouldn't shut up about how important framerate and resolution were until the new consoles actually came out and turned out to be shit.
>sessler then: next gen [email protected] is mandatory
>sessler now: i don't even like games
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>>283560087
>buying movies

lol
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>>283560017
>How /pol/ can jerk off about conservative values and hate Islam in a single breath I'll never understand
Because islamic values are not my values and neither is extreme leftism or feminism.
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>>283560164
I think you mean Gamespot.
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>>283560157
>but I doubt most people suspected journos worked together of their own volition to do these things.

You're making the mistake of assuming most people are as dumb as you
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>>283559071
vgchartz is delusional just like neogaf.
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>>283560106
Quantity =/= Price =/= Quality

Trolling and shitposts belong on /b/.
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>>283560208
I go to the cinema sometimes.
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>>283559919
>movie experience
>non movie price
ayyy
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I'm coming to the realization that Vidya as we know it is dead and gone.
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>>283560043
>>my opinion is law
more like
>I'm not going to side with companies over consumers

I have a ton of free time and somehow manage a good paying job on top of it, so I think I could do decently well if I weren't lazy as shit and terrified of whoring myself out so I can get a decent fanbase.
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The AAA videogame industry has be filled up with nothing but failed movie writers/directors that couldn't make it in the film industry. So they take their failed projects and make "videogames" out of them
>>
>paying $60 for a 5-hour long movie

hehehe, good gamers
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This more or less confirms that, apart from a few companies loyal to their customers and a few niche franchises, most good games are made by the users as mods.

Which is also why many new games have limited modability, to limit their competition.

Who wants to be charged full price for some bullshit when you can get a user made game for free?
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>>283558583
>>283558189
>>283558189

There's no interactivity in the actual GAME, sonyshills.

It's half cutscenes, a quarter cutscenes with QTEs, 20% walking around cinematically, and 10% of the most snore worthy TPS cover shooting battles where enemies never leave cover.

Oh, and there's zero music (srs) and the story takes itself WAYYYY too seriously for it to be about half breed werewolves.

It is seriously the saddest attempt at a "game" in quite awhile.

If you're shilling for this shlock FOR FREE, re-evaluate your taste and your life.
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>>283560017
Large parts of /pol/ sympathise with ISIS. It's mostly the bluepilled liberals turned republicans that are against them. The other half of /pol/ suspects ISIS being an israeli proxy to destabilize the region and that's why they got problems with them.
And there's the whole fact about mudslime culture being inferior to western culture and I'm not talking about the kind of western "culture" we got at the moment but the kind of culture that enabled us to go into space
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>>283560365
What do you think old hamburger helper was.
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>>283560365
you should feel privileged gamergater to pay for a $60 almost michael bay quality movie
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>>283559723
I went in expecting a complete clusterfuck and got a low production quality but otherwise stellar game with a few problems. An interesting story and an intriguing set of characters. It was also neat that the dub characters were largely different from the original jap, but the writing for each was internally consistent.
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I don't really mind how short the game is, I just mind how there's only like sub 3 hours of gameplay for a full price game.

Portal 1 was like 4 hours of gameplay and it came with TF2, and the whole Half Life 2 series for less than full price.

It's just silly that developers are still doing this shit.
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>>283560017
>Islamic values are conservative values

You're a serious fucking retard
>>
>People buying it just to spite critics.

Good. I hope you buy it for that reason.

In fact I hope you buy 10 copies. That would really show us.
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>>283560451
>and I'm not talking about the kind of western "culture" we got at the moment but the kind of culture that enabled us to go into space

Those are one and the same. The bullshit you're seeing here is nothing new.
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>>283554802
Why is it such a fucking foreign concept for these fucking faggots that you can play that 60 hour game through even if you have your daily things to attend to? Why do they feel the need to absorb as much entertainment in as little time as possible? What the fuck could possibly be the reason to demand more short and shitty games rather than big and expansive good games? Why is it such a foreign fucking concept to these people to play that 2-3 hrs every day for next month of that big ass 50-60 hr game EVEN WHEN THEY'RE FUCKING "VIDEO GAME JOURNALISTS"??
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>>283558647


>Cherrypicking

How about Unity, The Crew & Watch dogs ?

The only legit games that comes out of Ubisoft are from Ubiart.
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>>283557641
>Secretly sexy foreplay
>Secretly
>Bayonetta
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>>283559052

I live in Montana.

We don't take kindly to your types round here. I'm pretty sure over 4 SJW's together is considered a "war party" and you can legally shoot them.
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>>283560657
Right-Wing religious fanatics who hate Jews
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>>283560705
People bought DMC HD to spite game journo fucks and ended up getting a great couple of games in the process. Win win.
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>>283560785

>half their games
>'cherrypicking'
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What the fuck is with these people and going out and massively singing the praises of a game they haven't even touched yet? I mean I really don't get it.

I'm hype as fuck for MGSV and even I don't shitpost everywhere about how good I think it's going to be.

It really, truly does boggle my mind how people get so uptight that other people have complaints about something they're excited for...but haven't even played yet.

And 5 hours? Even CoD and Gears have longer campaigns with more actual gameplay time, plus multiplayer.
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>>283560783
they prefer 2hr games so they can finish sloppily playing it and plenty of time to write the review
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>>283560783
That's just another way to justify shitty games.

Ignore it, anon.
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>>283558542
pretty much this.
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>>283560909
The Order is the exclusive Sony is pushing the most because they think that's what their audience wants. Thus all the fanboys MUST be hyped for it and defend it.
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>>283554802

There should be some kind of consumer backlash against this kind of dishonesty.
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>>283560657
>hates women
>hates jews
>hates homos
>hates degeneracy

They're basically the same as /pol/
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>>283560909
5 hours is pretty long for a movie. Stop comparing our cinematic experience to those grotesque games made for children.
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>>283560169
NiGGers goal was to fuck journalists and drag them through the dirt which was acomplishec pretty well. Not through any of their own action, but by causing journos to spurg out and paint gaming as a hellhole to try and defame them. After that SVU shit even normies think they overreacted and acted like assholes
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>>283557431

Tell what could be a fuck lot shorter is your bullshit.
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>the only reason this is console exclusive is PC mustards would not stand for this shit and just pirate it
The "honest" ones would just way for $2 steam sale in 3 years
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>>283555051
>gamergate
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>>283561101

/pol/ are the biggest hypocrites on the planet, I wouldn't think too much on it.
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>>283561101
>not hating everything
It's like you want to be accepted by people around you.
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>>283561101

You're putting the whole religion in the extremists point of view.

Think for a second.
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I'm ok with short games. Long games usually are long just because of filler. Since I'm a wageslave I don't have a lot of time to play, so I'd rather play a short game than a very long one that will just bore me in the long run if I have to drag it over several weeks.

My ideal lenght for a game nowdays is 8 hours for a single playthrough. Still, The Order is way too short even for my taste. I could easily finish it in a single saturday, and if it doesn't have any replay value that's a big issue.

Maybe I'll rent it if the story is really good (at least as good as TLOU, I liked the story in that game, and by the way, it lasted me 14 hours first playthrough), otherwise I'll pass.
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>>283561037

>websites like Privilegon know what the public opinion is on stupid shit like this
>grab some backwards viewpoints from insane transvestites on twitter and make clickbait articles out of it
>suits in the industry go on the internet to see what the public wants, going to any "gaming news" websites
>see shit like this article, push those standards on developers
And then it goes on.
I can't help but imagine people like Ben are in fact completely normal people who just found the perfect con jobs.
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i fully support short games. at an adequate price.

way better than copypasting the same enemies over and over to turn 6 hard hours of game into 24.

however when we think about that we have to remember that adding 18 hours costed only 10% of the game budget, so it wouldn't be fair to demand that the 6h game should cost 1/4th of the 24h one.


what do you like?

i don't play games by hours and i don't think enjoyment is measured in hours.
but i think i can like some repetition, for example facing a similar room of enemies 2 or 3 times. less than 2 you underused your content, more than 3 i might get bored.
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>>283557431
Most of /v/'s favorite video games are beatable in one to three hours.
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>>283556240
How long did it last when people got the idea to shitpost 4chan fishing for replies? Now imagine they got paid per reply....

Yeah we can bitch about 4han all we want but, at least her there is no incentive to lie, defend a videogame, or attack a videogame other than your'e bored.
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>>283561101
>implying

Islam is pretty much the most peaceful religion on earth and is one of the most open minded and welcome religion. Speak to any muslim, they will treat you better than any other religions will.
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>>283554802
>man getting paid to play video games is so hard I wish these games were shorter
Must be tough being a "journalist".
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>>283561303
Those things aren't even extremist Islamic views though, they're mainstream.

Suicide bombing civillians and setting people on fire are extremist, so I guess /pol/ is probably more extreme than the average Muslim by that measure
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>>283561520
To be fair, if you had to play shit games all day like a "journalist" does, them being short would be a blessing.
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>expecting normal human opinions out of Ben Kuchera

The worst thing Penny-Arcade ever fucking did was give that tremendous asshole a platform.
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>>283556240
Forever
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>>283561442
mudslime pls go
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>>283561356

Of course he is. None of them actually believe this shit. They just take industry notes, rewrite them, and pay their rent.
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>>283561442
That's what everyone says about their own religion
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>>283561339
How about buying games that are not made longer by adding filler then?

You can easily drag a normal playthrough of DaS over multiple weeks and it will keep you hooked over the course of those weeks.

By giving the industry a reason to make shitty short games you are basically enabling this kind of bullshit game.
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>>283559747

First off, normal people aren't anti-gg

If you asked a random person on the street about gg he wouldn't say "I hate those scumbags" he'd say "What the fuck is that? Please go away"

But that's besides the point, because even if normal people WERE anti-gg that wouldn't make them pro-SJW

If normal people heard half the shit that SJWs spout they'd either double over with laughter or think it's down right psychotic.

If you think far-left academia has ANY kind of foothold in the mind of the general population then you're fucking delusional, most normal people don't even know the academic definitions of words like "patriarchy" and "oppression" much less agree with them.

SJWs survive only because the general population are largely unaware of what they say and do.
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