[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / bant / biz / c / can / cgl / ck / cm / co / cock / d / diy / e / fa / fap / fit / fitlit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mlpol / mo / mtv / mu / n / news / o / out / outsoc / p / po / pol / qa / qst / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / spa / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vint / vip / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y ] [Search | Click for more| Home]

Why is PS2 emulation still so horrible, when Dolphin is nearly

This is a blue board which means that it's for everybody (Safe For Work content only). If you see any adult content, please report it.

Thread replies: 235
Thread images: 63

Why is PS2 emulation still so horrible, when Dolphin is nearly perfect?
>>
Emotion Engine
>>
>>274694715
>Dolphin is nearly perfect?

TOPPEST LEL

USB loader is more accurate than Crashphin
>>
File: 864165341.jpg (337KB, 1905x1062px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
864165341.jpg
337KB, 1905x1062px
>>274695116
The fuck you smoking? I was playing it last night and it never crashed once.
>>
I don't get why people think PS2 emulation is so bad.

I've been playing games on PCSX2 for years, and the worst thing that's happened yet was Spiderman 2 acting up, but even then that game is a bitch to emulate.
>>
>>274696430
>I don't get why people think PS2 emulation is so bad.
I'll give you a hint
>>
>>274696979

Because a few games don't emulate well?

It's the same with every other emulator, there will always be some games that just don't emulate.
>>
File: 4567645354864.gif (623KB, 255x184px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
4567645354864.gif
623KB, 255x184px
>>274697376
Name some that don't emulate well in dolphin then.
pcsx2 is literally N64 tier bad
>>
>>274697498

Timesplitters Future Perfect
SSX Tricky
Scooby Doo: Night of 100 Frights
>>
>>274697498
Luigi's Mansion
F-Zero GX
Paper Mario TTYD
>>
File: 65416541.jpg (113KB, 974x597px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
65416541.jpg
113KB, 974x597px
>>274698732
I fail to see an issue
>>
File: 65415631.jpg (143KB, 982x785px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
65415631.jpg
143KB, 982x785px
>>274698732
Seriously though. What am I looking for?
>>
>>274697498
Rogue Squadron
>>
>>274699702
>>274699203
My mistake, it was unplayable for me a while ago because of some shit like Punies and water displaying incorrectly. Since then the issues have been fixed.
>>
>>274697498
Baten Kaitos
>>
File: 5476541635.jpg (102KB, 990x779px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
5476541635.jpg
102KB, 990x779px
>>274700073
testing

Also has PCSX even been updated since 2009? All the builds I find on their website just seems to be fixes and updates to the emulation cores, not to accuracy.
>>
>>274694715
>Dolphin is nearly perfect?
That's nottrue
>>
File: 1387288899651.jpg (76KB, 708x718px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1387288899651.jpg
76KB, 708x718px
>>274700572
Well I played a ton of games with the latest build. I literally can't even find a texture error.
>>
File: dr.evil.png (358KB, 591x296px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
dr.evil.png
358KB, 591x296px
>>274694715
truth: No one wants to buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games, so the emulators are worked on harder. The same community behind the emulators at the same time are dedicated Nintendo fans that dont want to give up on their favorite shit. The playstation community and Xbox community are far less dedicated, Xbox moreso (too many retarded dudebros) but you get my point. It took 10 years for EPSXE to be a decent emulator, just imagine how long until we get a working PS3 emulator.
>>
>>274700706

You're either not looking hard enough, lying, or so blinded by the mediocre that you don't know how these games are supposed to play
>>
File: 56415341563.jpg (86KB, 984x774px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
56415341563.jpg
86KB, 984x774px
>>274700952
Listen here bub. I'm not looking for 100% accuracy. I would just like an emulator that doesn't have random as fuck texture glitches like PS2. Let me not forget to mention how most of the PS2 library is unplayable on PCSX2 due simply to the fact the grafic plugin has fucking interlacing built in that you can only remove by making the screen jitter or smearing vaseline on the image.

Seriously. I'm testing these games the anons posted. Why not post some proof of your own?
>>
The hardware.
>>
>>274694715
>>274699702
>>274697498
>>274699203
Make a better emulator then. There's fucking free emulators, given to you so you fucks can play your kid games and yet you bitch and moan. Jesus fuck.
Entitled little shits.
>>
>>274694715

Oh shit is that Klonoa 2?

Neat game.
>>
PS2?

Fuck dude, at least there IS an emulator. The Xbox has fuck all.
>>
File: 564165416.jpg (131KB, 977x778px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
564165416.jpg
131KB, 977x778px
>>274701606
>people are immune to all critique if they do stuff for free
top kek

>>274701798
>tfw no Conker Live and Reloaded
At least Strangers Wrath got ported.
>>
>>274694715
>stutters with melee at near lowest settings with the latest build while pcsx2 runs better games at a buttery 60fps and 4x internal res.
Top kek.
>>
>>274695116
Wat? Even my toaster can run Wii games right now.
>>
>>274701890
You're not critiquing, the way you show your points comes out like bitching
>My god guys, this is literally worse than n64, oh my gawd why is it so bad
And the replies to people pointing out flaws

>Oh really? Well I dont see anything, Im eveng oing to post a tonf of screenshots because if it's not happening to me it can't be real. Like, oh my god, you're sooo daft

Be more objective and less like a snarky fuck. It feels like you're trying too hard to fit in.

Also I tried to emulate Monster Hunter Tri, Wind Waker and F-Zero and they all crashed every 12 minutes. It probably depends on the hardware.
>>
>>274694715
There's a thread on /vg/ for emulation, check settings there if you can't get it to work properly.
Or better yet, play something that isn't furryshit.
>>
People who make emulators are as whiny, petty, cancerous, and autistic as scanlators.
If you're aware of just how awful scanlation groups are then you know it's pretty bad.
>>
>>274702324
Getting shot is free too, retard.
>>
>>274694715
Has development on PCSX2 stopped or something?
>>
>>274702002
At least on 30fps locked games.
>>
File: 1373685822591.gif (436KB, 316x316px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1373685822591.gif
436KB, 316x316px
>>274702324
Try not having a toaster. Perhaps then you can actually be objective about all these.
I have no issues with framerate, or speed in either emulator, but PCSX2 is just so shit and ripe full of render issues, texture errors, overlay corruption. It's just full silly.

Seriously Dolphin is pretty top tier for what it is. It's almost as good as ePSXe with Pete's OpenGL2 driver.

Sorry if I'm not a broke ass nigga like you, I don't used speed hacks for any of these so accuracy should be good, but it's not.
>>
PCSX2 core is great, almost everything runs great in software mode

Problem is GSDX, Gabest designed it poorly from the get go & didn't bother to fix it, also his code is a mess & no one wants to clean it up

Best bet is for someone to make a new Graphics plugin for PCSX2, maybe one day
>>
File: 1370961752417.png (19KB, 716x556px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1370961752417.png
19KB, 716x556px
>>274704196
That actually makes perfect sense. Shame that software emulation has a garbage resolution.
I'm actually just gonna go look for alternative graphic pluggins for it now. Seriously speed is NOT an issue with my PC.
>>
>>274700060
>punies got fixed
OH SHIT.

I DIDNT WANT TO REPLAY IT AGAIN ON DOLPHIN CAUSE THE MESSED UP PUNIES TEXTURES IN CHAPTER 2 TICKLED MY AUTISM BUT OH SHIT
>>
>>274704196
Yea. I kinda agree. gsdx seems to be the issue for me when I'm trying to play Devil May Cry. Anything other than native resolution will give me weird glitches.
>>
>>274694715
>PS2 emulation
>Horrible
You what, nigger?
I played MGS2+3 and Persona 4 on PCSX2 with absolutely no problems and both of them looking gorgeous.
The better question is, Why is PS1 emulation still dogshit, when PS2 emulation is nearly perfect?
Trying to get Ape Escape to work properly is hell.
>>
File: 1325208886838.png (120KB, 550x375px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1325208886838.png
120KB, 550x375px
>>274705235
I'm curious about your settings. I can't get Persona 4 to look like anything other than dogshit while in the real world. There is like the glaze of shit over everything causing serious ghosting issues
>>
>>274705235
Seriously. How fix?
>>
>>274707846

Its Parkinsons, there is no cure
>>
File: Capture.png (62KB, 287x612px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
Capture.png
62KB, 287x612px
>>274707846
Works fine for me :^)
>>
>>274707846
>Wanting to be spoonfed this much
>>
>>274701383
>the grafic plugin has fucking interlacing built in that you can only remove by making the screen jitter or smearing vaseline on the image.
THIS SHIT
WHY DID THEY DO THAT
>>
>>274707846
D'aww babby's first time using PCSX2. It's adorable.
>>
>>274707846
Look up recommended PCSX2 Persona 4 settings. You might need to activate one of the fixes or a hack.
>>
File: 1395328139427.jpg (31KB, 444x374px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1395328139427.jpg
31KB, 444x374px
>>274708323
>>274708563
>>274708583
>>274708749
>>274708802
>>274708827
None of it worked. What now fags?
Apparently the ghosting is "working as intended"
>>
>>274709036
Press F5 you chubby coon.
>>
Dolphin isn't perfect. PPSSPP is perfect.
>>
File: top kek.gif (643KB, 293x289px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
top kek.gif
643KB, 293x289px
>>274709217
>>274709217
It's not an interlacing issue you dumb cunt. It's only visable when anything is moving because it's causing an after image to be left behind.

Do you know what ghosting means?
>>
>>274709247
No, PPSSPP isn't perfect either. It's amazing, but it's not perfect.
Only perfect emulator atm is visualboyadvance
>>
>pcsx2 is perfect they said
I sure do like this drunk filter in P4
>>
>>274694715
PCSX2 isn't bad, it's just hard to use.
>>
You can literally get a ps2 for a price of a big mac these days why the fuck even bother?
>>
>>274696430
Only issues I've seen with emulated PS2 games were these:
>DQ8
- Shadows only appear in software mode, important for one small part of the game
>Super Robot Wars Z
- Cutscenes flicker unless you're in software mode
- Pilot portraits are transparent if you're running the emulator with DX11 instead of DX9

I don't emulate a ton of games but I really haven't had any major issues
>>
When will a PS2 engineer defect from Sony and make the perfect emulator?
>>
>>274709716
I didn't have that problem.
This means that it's not a problem with the emulator itself as much as it is a problem on your end (most likely due to bad settings).
>>
>>274701606

you should question why people make emulators

so people can play games, or are there expecting e-fame and gratitude?
>>
>>274696430
Need a benchmark computer to emulate ZoE 1+2.
Good luck with steambot chronicles.
>>
File: 1368422355832.png (79KB, 679x589px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1368422355832.png
79KB, 679x589px
>>274709927
Or. maybe you didn't notice it because it only happens in the real world and not the TV world?

Seriously. Go try it for yourself. I have tried this almost bi monthly hoping that each new pcsx build I download would be the one to fix it.
It's only noticeable when moving.
>>
ps2 emulation is existent unlike xbox emulation

at this point any newer consoles will take fucking forever to be emulated if they are ever at all
>>
>>274710161
I've played through P4 on PCSX2.
I did not have that problem.
It's a problem on your end.

I'm not insulting you, I'm just saying.
>>
>>274694715
One of the main devs left the team (IIRC, I think he came back, though?) and the whole project needs to be rewritten before it can really progress which requires a lot of work for people who aren't really contributing so why not just continue to build on a pile of shit?
>>
File: 645879456874.jpg (23KB, 408x344px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
645879456874.jpg
23KB, 408x344px
>>274710552
Post your settings then and I'll test it. I've got this same issue on 3 different computers.
It probably is a setting on my end due to the fact that I can notice it and you're a blind person.
>>
>>274700495
Nope, not really. Even the nightlies haven't made much progress.
>>
>>274694715
Gamecube and Wii have fairly basic hardware. Its pretty similar to a PC (minus the DSP audio chip). The PS2 is a completely different best with a crazy hardware setup that is not even close to anything else on the market. The Emotion Engine behaves much different from the Gamecube's PowerPC CPU.
>>
File: 1325381500876.jpg (17KB, 240x320px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1325381500876.jpg
17KB, 240x320px
I wasn't aware there were shills for PCSX2 til I saw this thread.
Jesus christ, why would you defend it by saying it's perfect when it's clearly not?
>>
>>274710709
If you're using the same goddamn settings on three different computers of course it's going to look the same. Either google recommended PCSX2 settings or stop being retarded.
>>
>>274710709
Played it a year or two ago. Don't have it on my computer anymore.
Settings depend on your hardware.
I am also not a tech savvy person. I just never had that problem to begin with and thus didn't need to fix anything.
Just start ticking/unticking boxes.

>I refuse to believe you didn't have this problem. Clearly you just didn't notice.
fuck you too eh buddy, have fun with your videogame you shoddy god fucking cuntknuckle
>>
>>274709495
>Only perfect emulator atm is visualboyadvance
Not even close?
VisualBoyAdvance hasn't been updated in years and VBA-M still has issues with a few games here or there.

bSNES is probably the only emulator close to perfect, and even then it's hidden behind a retarded interface and game folders.
>>
>>274711001

>shills for a completely free, open-source emulator

YES, LET US SHILL THE FREE EMULATOR
>>
File: Costav Jorgi.jpg (83KB, 384x313px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
Costav Jorgi.jpg
83KB, 384x313px
>>274709716
Did you turn on the VU Clip Flag Hack?
>>
File: talkative.png (48KB, 835x578px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
talkative.png
48KB, 835x578px
>>274710709
It's not only a matter of settings, it also depends on your hardware. No matter how powerful your rig is, it might not be compatible for emulating PS2.
>>
>>274711001
Because for some people, noticeable graphic, sound, and performance issues are still "good enough" to be played. So therefore, it must be perfect.

I don't agree with that sentiment, but I understand what they're saying. I think there needs to be terms for emulation that looks perfect, emulation that's "good enough", and actual, perfect emulation. Too many people say shit is perfect when there's clearly problems or it's not technically perfect.
>>
>>274698732
>Luigi's Mansion
>F-Zero GX
>Paper Mario TTYD
Those all work perfectly fine.
>>
>get ppsspp on android and i3 laptop
>MHFU works flawlessly on both
>p3rd doesn't
why.
>>
>>274696326
>all those mario parties
Jesus just stick with one.
>>
File: 84516541.jpg (243KB, 1857x1010px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
84516541.jpg
243KB, 1857x1010px
>>274711195
First thing I tried

>>274711032
I download it fresh for each computer. Fuck with the settings for all. None of them have the same settings, don't even have the same pluggins

>>274711249
Well I've never had an issue with framerate on this one I'm running now. I'd just like to get a proper image for once.
>>
>>274703030
Yeah, all they've done for the last 2+ years is add crappy shader support and try to port their GFX plugin to OpenGL (which still flat out doesn't work on a lot of hardware).
>>
>>274711645
I heard the mVU Flag hack causes problems in Persona 3, could also be a problem with the game and upscaling.
>>
>>274711551
p3rd has issues, strangly p3rd hd works fine.
your guess is as good as mine
>>
Budokai 3 and Budokai Tenkaichi 3 work well on PCSX2 so I'm fine with it.
>>
>>274705235
>absolutely no problems
MGS3's post effects are messed up on PCSX2 hardware mode.
>>
>Dolphin
>nearly perfect
>"i'm an nintedrone that only played ten games and i assure you everything works well"

This is how retarded you sound.
>>
>>274694715
Because emulating a toaster isn't that hard.
>>
>>274694715
>Dolphin is nearly perfect

What is this goyim smoking?
>>
File: friends.png (74KB, 600x267px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
friends.png
74KB, 600x267px
>>274711635

>all Mario party games
>playing it alone
>>
>>274709495
>Only perfect emulator atm is visualboyadvance
Actually the only perfect one I know of is bsnes.
>>
>>274696326
>Skies of Arcadia Legends

How does it emulate anon?
>>
File: 65416541.jpg (157KB, 1499x1007px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
65416541.jpg
157KB, 1499x1007px
>>274711763
I've tried software, hardware, no scaling, toggled every fucking checkbox.
It's still there.

I want someone to test this shit out too so I know it's not just me. Take a screenshot of you in this same classrom with the camera turning and you'll see it too.
>>
>>274709217
It's hilarious that you're implying it's easy to fix, but every suggestion you've given has failed.
>>
>>274711959
gamecube was stronger than the ps2, nerd
>>
>>274694715
Dolphin is 'perfect' in the sense that you need a beastly CPU for it, while PS2 games emulate perfectly on toasters.
>>
File: 1409145846393.png (13KB, 195x202px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1409145846393.png
13KB, 195x202px
>there are people that still use ZSNES,ePSXe and No$gba in December 2014

Why is this allowed
>>
>>274712153
Google says you're wrong.
>>
>>274711948
this doesnt really work if you have to type something completely different from the original statement
lmao retard
>>
>>274707846
I forget which hotkey it is, but cycle the different deinterlacing settings, PCSX2 doesn't have any sort of REAL vsync to speak of, so you have to find a specific mode for a specific game unfortunately, and it looks like you have the one that does interframe blurring

>>274708583
>/a/-tier memes again
>>
Software mode on PCSX2 is more intensive than hardware mode right?

Would my G3258 at 4.0Ghz be able to handle most playable games?

I bet I'd get slowdown on MGS3 or SotC though.
>>
>>274694715
>Dolphin
>nearly perfect

b8
>>
>>274712156
Isn't it the other way around?
I was told that dolphin runs on toasters while you need some solid material to run ps2 stuff
>>
>>274712156
I think you got that the wrong way round, I have a first gen i7 from 6 years ago and dolphin runs fine even in intense games.

Pcsx2 runs like shit on intense games.
>>
>>274709495
>VBA

Hell no. BSNES comes the closest but even it's not because it only....copies cycles instead of some other shit, because if you tried to perfectly emulate that other shit, it would be far too resource intensive and so no emulator (or very few) has done it.

I read about it on wikipedia or something.
>>
>>274712305
Yes.
Not in software mode, you'll need moar cores for that. Might be okay in hardware mode.
>>
>>274712156

Hasn't that always been their shitty excuse though? No major games run well on the thing, audio issues up the ass, and they always squawk about CPU cycles and all this shit.

Only emulator where you're better off just buying the fucking console.
>>
>>274712156
Dolphin 4.0 and beyond stopped focusing on speedhacks and is now more focused on accuracy. Some games will actually run better on older iterations
>>
File: 1349124590414.jpg (31KB, 616x506px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1349124590414.jpg
31KB, 616x506px
>>274712509
>you'll need moar cores for that
FUCK
>>
File: 1371393284760.jpg (62KB, 500x379px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1371393284760.jpg
62KB, 500x379px
>>274712302
I've toggled them all. Hell the last screenshot I posted it's completely off
>>
>people who just started playing on emulators yesterday talking about them

/emugen/ here,you are all idiots.
>>
>>274712508
>copies cycles instead of some other shit
It does everything in a cycle a real SNES would do in a cycle. There's no known glitches in any commercially released game.
>>
>>274694715
Pcsx2 devs are retards.
>>
>>274697498
Lego star wars
>>
>>274712396
I have a seven year old E8400 that runs a respectable number of games on PCSX2 (I can even get 300% speeds with framelimit disabled) but Dolphin is completely unplayable.
>>
>>274700073
i have over a hundred hours in both and never ran into any problems. what was wrong with it?
>>
>>274712798
It perfectly matches cycles or whatever. There's an alternative, more accurate version of emulation that nobody will ever try because its too resource intensive.

I read about it on wikipedia or something.

>There's no known glitches in any commercially released game.
I know.
>>
File: xbox emulation.png (130KB, 1555x706px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
xbox emulation.png
130KB, 1555x706px
>>274700883
>The playstation community and Xbox community are far less dedicated, Xbox moreso (too many retarded dudebros)
It doesn't help that the Xbox is a nightmare to reverse engineer.
>>
>>274712156
I've had the exact opposite experiences on my shittier PCs. Some of the light-weight PS2 games will run fine, but anything else is like -5 fps. Dolphin runs pretty respectably regardless of the computer I have it on, though.
>>
File: Untitled.png (673KB, 648x507px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
Untitled.png
673KB, 648x507px
>>274712234
You're using google wrong. I wouldn't be surprised if the Dreamcast was stronger than the PS2.
>>274712156
Dolphin has gotten a hell of a lot faster since their assembly wizard joined two months ago.
>>274711948
>tfw running a game perfectly on dolphin that used to run like absolute dogshit in older versions
>>
File: 1325272698660.png (307KB, 548x398px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1325272698660.png
307KB, 548x398px
So what I can gather from this thread is
>If you got an AMD cpu, PCSX2 works great with no texture errors like in OP image but dolphin is unplayable
>if you got an intel cpu, dolphin is solid with no texture or major errors, but PCSX2 will look like total shit like in OP

Is this correct?
>>
>>274713383
>I wouldn't be surprised if the Dreamcast was stronger than the PS2.
In some ways it is, some ways it isn't.
>>
>>274713416
My computer has an intel CPU and both run and look just fine
>>
>people who buy AMD CPUs to emulate

>>274713416
No,AMD is shit regardless of what emulator you are using.
>>
TTS runs 60fps constant on dolphin
mgs2 runs slow as fuck in pcsx2

this is my unscientific nonsense litmus test but i'm sticking to it. pcsx2 a shit
>>
>>274713416
Yeah, no. Intel has objectively better IPC so it runs nearly every emulator better than AMD. There's usually benchmark threads on emulator forums if you wanna see how much better Intel CPUs are than AMD for stuff like that.
>>
>>274713416
No, AMD is shit either way. Or, at least, shittier. PCSX2 has serious issues with the graphics plugin and hasn't made any major progress in compatibility or accuracy in months, if not years.

Dolphin is at least progressing, albeit, it's still not perfect, but is on a much better track than PCSX2.
>>
>>274713782
http://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-CPU-Benchmark-designed-for-PCSX2-based-on-FFX-2

AMD gets fucking rekt.
>>
File: l4cumva[1].jpg (279KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
l4cumva[1].jpg
279KB, 1920x1080px
help
>>
>>274712734
Don't you have tranny devs and scene drama to shitpost about?
>>
>>274714010
My $60 G3258 outperforms every AMD CPU.

Wow that's sad.
>>
I'm happy that PS1 emulation finally got out of the gutter thanks to Mednafen,i still need to rely on SSF for that Saturn emulation since Yabause is making progress too slowly.
>>
>>274713416
Nah, I have an Intel CPU and I've played through KH2: FM, Nocturne, Raidou, Million Monkeys and FF12 with no real issues.
>>
>>274712734
nintendo just released a gamecube adapter, so of course theres more people emulating
>>
>>274713416
>Is this correct?
Not even close, no. On top of what other's have said, CPU brand doesn't matter for texture errors.
>>
>>274714153
>thanks to Mednafen

Do you even PCSX-R?
>>
File: 6541654163.jpg (256KB, 1916x817px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
6541654163.jpg
256KB, 1916x817px
Seriously though. Speed isn't an issue for me since I can run both of these at 60fps at the same time.

PCSX2 is still shit tier though.
>>
>>274714294
PCSX-R is kind of bad if you want to use it on Windows,ePSXe is pretty much the same.
>>
>>274712097
Perfect. Played from start to finish.
>>
>>274697498
They're actually resuming work on pcsx2 again.
>>
>Dolphin fags think they're good when Dolphin can't even run at 60fps on my shitty laptop
:^)
>>
>>274714712
XEBRA is decidedly king of PS1 accuracy. Has relatively low system reqs too
>>
>>274715487
>It's the program's fault it can't run on my absolute dogshit of a computer
:^)
>>
>>274715487
>an emulator's quality is represented b y how good it can run on my shitty hardware
No, that's like saying Battlefield is a bad game because your hardware is shit and not because it's a shittily designed, overdone generic military shooter.
>>
File: Capture.jpg (59KB, 601x612px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
Capture.jpg
59KB, 601x612px
>>274694715
Ps2 uses a custom Japanese made graphics chip not 100% understood by hackers.
The GC and WII use ATI grafics chips making it easier to map and emulate because its esencialy similar to other older ATI GPUs.

>>274695116
Emulation and USB loading are not the same thing fagot.
>>
>>274694715
Fuck you, Dolphin can't run Rogue Squadron and until it can it will never be perfect.
>>
>>274715717
>>274715758
Dolphin fags getting assblasted
>>
>>274715487
That entitlement
>>274715505
It doesn't have better compatibility than Mednafen i believe.
>>
File: 1404682088303.jpg (12KB, 145x123px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1404682088303.jpg
12KB, 145x123px
Since this is an emulation thread, I might as well ask.

The only Nintendo console I've ever owned was the NES (and the GBC, if you can count that). I've never played any N64 games, never played any SNES games, never played any Wii games. I've never touched a Zelda game outside of the first one, never played a Metroid game.

I've had a PC from a very young age and just never bothered with consoles apart from NES and PS2.

What would you recommend me to play? What have I missed? Has my childhood suffered?
>>
>>274715895
Buttmad PCSX2fag spotted. Good luck running any games that don't work with GSDX on your shitty hardware.
>>
What are the recommended settings for DQ8?
I'm running at a silky smooth 30FPS pace and it's driving me crazy
>>
>>274715949
does mednafen run tron bonne without freezing? does mednafen run a particular japanese title called neorude (it's nothing special but XEBRA's the only emulator that runs it)

if mednafen can do these things then mednafen is runing the xebra core
>>
>>274716135
You missed on everything.Ask /vr/ for help not the plebs here on /v/.
>>
>>274715717
>>274715758
>>274715949
No but seriously can a Compaq laptop run Dolphin, I'm getting my actual comp fixed and i need games in my life
>>
>>274716438
Depends what CPU is in a compaq. If it's a modern dual core i5 then the answer is maybe. Check the Dolphin benchmark thread.
>>
>>274701890
>tfw no Conker Live and Reloaded
>wanting that censored trash
>>
>>274716405
>does mednafen run tron bonne without freezing?

I believe it should,it runs even the most obscure titles so i don't see why not.
>>
Reminder that Mednafen is the best PS1 emulator and is practically cycle accurate.

You can even use original gameshark dumps by quickly swapping out ISOs.
>>
>>274716565
>he didn't know that you could uncensor the game by saying the curse words in the microphone during an Xbox Live multiplayer match

lel, am I the only one who played it online?
>>
>>274716135
Pic any Zelda or any Metrid game from any system and you are gonna have fun.
How man you play depends on how much you can tolerate retro grafics.
Its usually best to alternate.
Play one 2d Zelda than play one 3d Zelda and than one GB Zelda.
Same whit meteoroid.
Zsnes is used for SNES games.
Visual boy advance is used for GB and GBA games.
Don't play the first meteoroid you have a better remake on the GBA.
>>
>>274717086
>Zsnes is used for SNES games.

Why do you feel qualified to help others when you're clearly fucking retarded?
>>
>>274717086
>Zsnes is used for SNES games.
Stop, this isn't the 90s.
>Visual boy advance is used for GB and GBA games.
Stop.
>>274716135
We have literally perfect SNES emulation now if you use bsnes but if you've got a toaster use Snes9x. ZSNES is an ancient, shitty emulator from the 90s that has no reason to exist anymore.
>>
File: 1330206147405.png (41KB, 239x258px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1330206147405.png
41KB, 239x258px
So...we all agree PCSX2 is shit and needs to be updated?
>>
>>274717502
It needs developers from better emulators to help them. I don't think they have the capability to make it better.
>>
File: 1409709469735.jpg (35KB, 400x422px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1409709469735.jpg
35KB, 400x422px
>>274717086
>Zsnes is used for SNES games.

Typical Nintendrone
>>
>>274717502
>needs to be updated

How? Gabest doesn't work on gsdx anymore and the codebase is a complete fucking mess. There hasn't been any improvement in the emulator in months because they have no idea what anything does anymore.
>>
>>274716656
the obscurity of a title doesn't matter, the complexity of its engine does
for example, PS2 emulation still can't work with ratchet & clank or jak & daxter. Everything comes out looking like zalgo
>>
>>274717086
>ZSNES
I don't think he's running a Pentium 1 CPU
>>
File: AOOOOOOW.jpg (36KB, 500x500px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
AOOOOOOW.jpg
36KB, 500x500px
>>274695116
>playing games natively is more accurate than emulation

WOAH NO FUCKING WAY
>>
File: 1321054063641.jpg (14KB, 248x238px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1321054063641.jpg
14KB, 248x238px
>>274717785
>those black eyes on everyone in Jak and Daxter
>>
>>274694715
this bait thread is now a Klonoa thread
whether you like it or not
>>
>>274717785
>the obscurity of a title doesn't matter

It depends,some titles require certain fixes to work as they should.I can agree that the complexity of the game has a big part in it,i remember having some slowdown while playing Front Mission 3 with Mednafen on my old PC due to one distortion effect being very CPU heavy.
>>
>>274718001
USBLoader fucks up a lot though
>>
File: 1369466360742.jpg (63KB, 622x521px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1369466360742.jpg
63KB, 622x521px
>>274718147
Go for it.
It wasn't a bait thread. I wanted to play Klonoa 2..but the graphical issues along with the lack of sound effects just made it so I couldn't play.
>>
File: bf9.jpg (209KB, 756x1100px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
bf9.jpg
209KB, 756x1100px
>>274717086
bait

>>274716135
Zelda: Play 1, 2, and Link's Awakening.
Metroid: Play Super Metroid and Zero Mission.

The rest are irrelevant.
>>
File: 1386297075425.gif (474KB, 260x195px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1386297075425.gif
474KB, 260x195px
>go to PCSX2 wiki to see compatibility of games
>all these fucking games that actually have a shit ton of errors and missing audio labled as green
>>
>>274718960
Green is simply playable.
>>
>>274718960
They are still "playable"
>>
>>274719149
>playable
>"cannot load past level 2 due to issue" "perfectly playable though"
>>
File: PCreleasewhen.jpg (269KB, 1318x1008px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
PCreleasewhen.jpg
269KB, 1318x1008px
>want to play the only sandbox of 6th gen that mattered
>no hardware mode

Why even bother?
>>
>>274719301
You can still skip that level by loading a savstate or in other ways.
>>
File: 1368328972041.jpg (22KB, 681x381px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1368328972041.jpg
22KB, 681x381px
>MFW I would gladly buy great PS2 games if they just released them on PSN
>>
>>274719545
>playable
>only if you skip the game-stoping unplayable parts :^)
>>
>>274719683
Playable means that it starts and you can arrive to the gameplay part of the game,nothing else.
>>
File: 1325209401839.jpg (12KB, 194x212px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1325209401839.jpg
12KB, 194x212px
>>274719620
>mfw Sony will never ever release a PS2 emulator for PS4
>>
>>274717393
>Visual boy advance is used for GB and GBA games
>stop
But it is.
>>
File: 1326169086048.png (159KB, 314x341px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1326169086048.png
159KB, 314x341px
>>274719907
>there is a catagory for "playable with issues" yellow
>this shit still counts as green
>>
File: naniporque.png (154KB, 500x281px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
naniporque.png
154KB, 500x281px
>>274720063
>mfw when people are too poor to afford a PS2
>>
>>274697498
the last story
shit's laggy as fuck while other more graphicaly expensive games run at solid 60fps
>>
File: shdsthd.png (2MB, 1578x884px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
shdsthd.png
2MB, 1578x884px
>>274709247
What I love with PPSSPP is how easy it makes modding for Dissidia Duodecim.
>>
>>274709247
>PPSSPP is perfect

It is far from perfect,many japan-only games still refuse to work or have glitches that make the game unplayable.
>>
File: me.png (48KB, 156x223px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
me.png
48KB, 156x223px
>>274697805
>Game of games in the ps2 can't be emulated
why even bother?
>>
>>274721146
It's nice to be able to play all your games on one machine. I have a HTPC in my livingroom and have almost 1400 PS1 iso's on there. I have a PS1, a PS2 and a PS3 but having all the games on that one machine along with thousands of games from other systems and PC games too makes it a better option for me.
>>
>>274721293
Laggy doesn't mean inaccurate. And in emulators resource usage doesn't necessarily correlate with eye candy.
>>
>>274696326
OH SHIT
DID THEY GET DRIVERS FOR THE ADAPTER?
>>
>>274694715
dolphin actually has a competent bunch of developers that are striving for accurate emulation.

>yfw there will never be a team like this for any other emulator and every other emulator will be shit forever.

Be glad that the wii emulates other systems because you'll find better emulators on there than on majority of other current developed emus.
>>
File: custom2.jpg (1007KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
custom2.jpg
1007KB, 1920x1080px
>Why is PS2 emulation still so horrible

Works fine for me.
>>
File: OgreBattle64.jpg (60KB, 256x176px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
OgreBattle64.jpg
60KB, 256x176px
what's a good n64 emulator that runs Ogre Battle 64 well, without the black background bugs in towns and battles?
>>
>>274722396
A real N64
>>
File: 1369208211642.png (441KB, 901x704px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1369208211642.png
441KB, 901x704px
>>274721146
>tfw i have a PS2 but can't find swap magic anywhere
>>
>>274713231
microsoft emulation ninja where?
>>
>>274714497

What game is that on the right?
>>
>>274721146
>mfw when people are too poor to afford a PS2

You can probably get a PS2 for pennies.

Why bother with a PS2 when you can emulate in much higher resolutions?
>>
File: 1408935921573.jpg (24KB, 308x302px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1408935921573.jpg
24KB, 308x302px
>>274722492

A real N64 is not an emulator, you colossal faggot.
>>
>>274694715
>Comparing PS2 emulation to Dolphin emulation.
You're retarded
>>
>>274722853
>muh HD
>>
>>274714137
>>274714010
>>274713886
>>274713782
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9hF3dC
Oh god please don't tell me I fucked up
>>
>>274722853
because I'd rather play the game rather than have a fuckton of errors just for some clearer pixels
>>
File: 14908674206452.jpg (53KB, 720x540px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
14908674206452.jpg
53KB, 720x540px
>>274722396
Virtual Console
>>
>>274695116
The recent dev builds of Dolphin have made ridiculous strides. The only high profile games they can't play well are the Rogue Squadron games.
>>
>>274723157
Get an aftermarket cooler and OC your CPU heavily and you'll still be able to get good FPS in intensive PCSX2 and Dolphin games.

Maybe not for the most intensive like Shadow of the Colossus though.
>>
>>274722194
Pretty much any console before the 5th gen has a good emulator. PSX is fine, and Gamecube is decent as well. We need a better DS, PS2, Saturn, and N64 emulator. We also need an Xbox emu period.
>>
>>274723157
>6 core
>3.5 Ghz

You probably did,but not that badly.since the CPU clock seems at least decent.
>>
>>274723352
>>274723390
I'm mainly looking to emulate games like Nocturne, Soul Nomad and potentially Rule of Rose.
Pretty much anything that can run on a $500 build
>>
How well does dolphin emulate wii games?
>>
>>274698732
Paper Mario TTYD's issues have been fixed in the past few months.

Luigi's Mansion's issues have been fixed in the past few months.

F-Zero GX now runs like 50% faster than a year ago.
>>
>>274723596
Better than gamecube games, honestly.
>>
>>274723476
I've no idea if your CPU is good enough for those games.

Still, the $60 G3258 is the best budget CPU you can get if you want good performance on emulators.

Just stick with the fx 6300 and OC in the future if you need to.
>>
File: 1417906956232.jpg (50KB, 455x440px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1417906956232.jpg
50KB, 455x440px
>>274711645
>>
>>274723710
Well, I plan on upping my CPU in the distant future to an i5.
I just wanted to stay within a budget for now
>>
>>274723791
>press X to check your privilege
>>
>>274717336
>>274717393
>>274717665
>>274717950

not same poster but i zsnesw was the first snes emulator i used when i was first new to emulation a long time ago and ive stuck with it, haven't had any problems at all, why is it so disliked? am i missing out on something by using it?
>>
>>274723993
Its fucking shit
>>
>>274722169
fucking yes they did. so hype
>>
>>274724052

anything more specific?
>>
>>274723993
It was great at the time, but pretty much every other emulator has surpassed it. Also, back then a lot of people didn't have the cpu for something cycle-accurate like bsnes since it required a core 2 duo which was cutting edge, but now that's ancient history.
>>
File: paul.png (526KB, 666x520px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
paul.png
526KB, 666x520px
>>274718318
I got kinda opposite, sound effects are working but no BGM.
Also, no graphical glitches whatsoever
>>
>>274724229
Its an inaccurate piece of shit
>>
File: 1367370373758.jpg (86KB, 453x592px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1367370373758.jpg
86KB, 453x592px
>mfw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzJ4R14q5dw
>>
>finish FF X and DQ VIII
>work perfectly
>let's try some Ratchet & Clank games
>totally unplayable

Fuck that shit.
>>
>>274722515
Search for FMCB (homebrew loader), ESR (loading burn discs) and OPL (loading from USB, internal HDD or through SMB (network))
>>
File: H8Pmv.png (660KB, 1200x1200px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
H8Pmv.png
660KB, 1200x1200px
>>274709036
>asking for help while insulting the people who attempt to help you
>>
>>274711120
>>274712059
>>274712508
>>274712798

bSNES isn't perfect either. It emulates the cycles, which is great an all, but while there's no known "glitches", there's a fuckton of slowdown in most games.

The ONLY perfect emulator is DICE.
>>
>>274724270

fair enough, so are these issues at a noticeable level in day to day use? or is it mostly academic, which /v/ loves to be
>>
>>274712191
What should we use instead?
>>
>>274724334
Check the PCSX2 wiki page for the game. I remember something about a patch for it. Also, you should probably just buy a copy, since there's way to many glitches.
Thread posts: 235
Thread images: 63


[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / bant / biz / c / can / cgl / ck / cm / co / cock / d / diy / e / fa / fap / fit / fitlit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mlpol / mo / mtv / mu / n / news / o / out / outsoc / p / po / pol / qa / qst / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / spa / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vint / vip / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y] [Search | Top | Home]
Please support this website by donating Bitcoins to 16mKtbZiwW52BLkibtCr8jUg2KVUMTxVQ5
If a post contains copyrighted or illegal content, please click on that post's [Report] button and fill out a post removal request
All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.
This is a 4chan archive - all of the content originated from that site. This means that 4Archive shows an archive of their content. If you need information for a Poster - contact them.