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Sakurai about when the SSB (N64) roster leaked on the net di

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Sakurai about when the SSB (N64) roster leaked on the net directly before the release.
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n01/n64/software/nus_p_nalj/smash/PostReturn151.html

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When the hidden character info leaked on a certain board before SSB was released, I got really mad. (To the extent that I thought about suing)
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Rekt
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>>259833028

he has every right to, hope he does
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Haha that's what you get for making a shitty roster.
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I guess some Brazilian is in deep trouble.
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When did he post this?
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>>259833645
This!

Fucking Super Weaboo Shit for 3DS, that's how it should be called.
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>Upon being asked by Sakurai if "he ever made a game" the man responded with his own question "have you ever made a good game?", immediately Sakurai opened his mouth to speak only to stop before words formed, his expression perplexed as if searching every wrinkle of his brain. After a good five minutes, Sakurai whispered, but no one heard, when asked to speak up Sakurai screamed in a fit of rage "NO", repeatedly, tears streaming down his face, his voice going hoarse. After his tantrum, Sakurai was asked to reiterate "No" he said "I have never made a good game".
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>>259833645
I sorta slightly agree with you, it pisses me off how almost all vets got zero new moves except minor tweaks, along with almost everyones Final Smash being the same garbage. And then you have cutting characters for "potential" DLC, only to put in more clones. And then theres... Lucina... I'll never forgive him for that.
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>>259833984
10-15 years ago. No idea when exactly.
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Why did Nintendo send a full finished copy of SSB to the ESRB and not just a demo?
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>>259834134
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Wait they had the internet back then?
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>>259834582
i was wondering the same thing
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>>259834134
fukken saved
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>>259834373
It leaked in Japan back then.

And with "a certain board" he probably means 2ch which was rather new back then.
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>>259834134
kek'd
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The roster makes me sick, they're all sword wielding animu faggots and we're supposed to rely on DLC to fix this mess. Pretty sure it's going to cost money too.
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>>259834057
Yeah that's totally right, where is my Masterchief and my Kratos. Those are real characters for real men.

AMARITE GUISES ?
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>>259834582
The internet's been around since the late 80's.
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>>259833028
I wonder how Sakurai is reacting to the leak? I feel bad for the guy. He just wanted to make vidya games
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>>259835229
He should wake up around now.

Within the next 30 minutes he will learn about it.
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>>259833028
He's such a petty little man.

It's pathetic really.
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>>259835010
There is alot of better character that Sakurai could had used , but no let me add a shit ton of FE and KI weeaboo garbage.

Bowser jr. looks thought
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Instead of focussing on revealing the roster in the slowest way possible, he should focus on making a decent game for once. Other fighting game developers don't do this shit.
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Good, i hope he gets so pissed he has an aneurysm and dies.

Fucking Hackurai not even once, never again.
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>>259835386
>tfw Sakurai delays smash because of the leaks so he can change the roster
>tfw Smash Bros is delayed for two years
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>>259835669
*Bowser jr. looks cool thought
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>>259834582
>>259834695

bait
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>>259835704
He thinks that getting excited at who will be the hidden character while playing the game is part of the fun.
That's the part I haven't copied over and translated.
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>>259835704

But anooooon, smash isn't a fighting game, it's a party game and we must all enjoy the slow ass casualised gameplay
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>>259835229
>He just wanted to make vidya games
Yeah, for himself.

Serves him right for being an arrogant faggot. First lesson about Smash Bros is actually making polls and knowing what people wants, not just shoving your ego all over the game.
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Smashfags are the worst fanbase ever holy shit.
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>>259835229

I thought he was a faggot for not including Ridley just to spite us for no reason.
Now I see he just wanted to surprise us.
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>>259835989
What if it's both ?
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That bastard literally cut all my mains from Brawl, Squirtle, Wolf, Snake and Lucas so he deserves it, fucking nigger.
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>>259835229
>>259835836
THANKS A LOT INTERNET! GODDAMN!
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>>259833028
I would be mad to if my shitty roster was leaked. I remember when the SSBB roster was leaked and I was happy with it but this roster is noticeably shitty.
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>>259836052
>make polls and know what people want
Thats just a recipe for disaster. You're going to end up getting all kinds of crazy shit. Worse part is people will blame the polls being "rigged" or something and still hate Sakurai for it.

You can't please everyone.
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>>259835229

Shitty videogames.
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>>259836287
>But Dr Mario is so much better.
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>>259834134
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>>259836458
>>259836052

He did make a poll for Brawl though.

http://smashboards.com/threads/characters-on-sakurais-poll.71872/

King Dedede(5) - CONFIRMED!
Diddy Kong(4) - CONFIRMED!
Geno(4)
Ike(4) - CONFIRMED!
Ridley(4)
Captain Olimar & Pikmin(3) - CONFIRMED!
Krystal(3)
Takamaru(3)
Windwaker Link(3)
Animal Crossing MC(2) - in BG of Smashville stage
Claus(2)
Demiru(2)
Isaac(2)
Jeff(2)
Kawasima(2)
King K.Rool(2)
Lip(2)
Lucas(2) - CONFIRMED!
Mega Man(2)
Oguma(2)
Ouendan(2)
Sukapon(2)
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Sakurai has never made a game.

He's a "Game director", which is a smart term for "ideas guy". He's never made shit.
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>>259836458
This roster pleases no one but the biggest of Nintendo fanboys who think Nintendo can do no wrong.
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>>259836458
>>259836052
Worst idea ever. As a game dev, I am fully aware of how much players have no idea what's good for them.
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>>259836287
You have shit mains
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>>259836458
Sakurai pleases no one but himself.

Smash is the only series where massive amounts of content are willfully cut, and still gets praise.
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>>259835836
That seems like something a fish would do. I think at most a certain Brazilian will get judicially analprobed by Nintendo.

I could see him having logged into his Google account without any protection.
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>>259836118

you mean like 64, Melee, or Project M?

yeah, that would be nice
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>>259835229
He probably shouldn't have been such a biased, self-serving faggot then.

>Says no clones this time
>We get six clones

>Says he isn't going to play favorites with his franchises
>Kid Icarus gets three reps, Fire Emblem gets four

>Says Namco-Bandai isn't getting any special treatment because they're co-developing the game
>Pac-Man gets included anyway
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>>259835704
>Other fighting game developers don't do this shit.
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>>259836712

Fuck you Samurai.
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>>259834582
>>259834695
IIRC WWW came about in the early 90's/late 80's, but before that there was still internet, just very shittily organized by index. I think it was called gopher or something
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>>259836754
No if it was fish, he would cancel the game and tell everyone to choke his dick
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>>259836287
Greninja will probably be better, Wolf is pretty much a clone, it wasn't Sakurai's choice for Snake to be cut, and Lucas is a clone too.

>>259836626
>geno
Why, why couldn't of we had him? Everyone wanted him because of that animation.
GENO 4 4
GENO 4 4
GENO 4 4
GENO 4 4
GENO 4 4
GENO 4 4
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>>259834145
I'm more pissed about dark pit than lucina
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>>259836826
That's just how the world works, son.
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>>259836287
>squirtle - genuinely feel for you, I liked Red
>Wolf - clone
>Snake - DLC before Nintendo did DLC. no surprise he didn't join for round 2.
>Lucas - clone. better than Ness imo but still a clone.

you played mostly clones, you only have yourself to blame. in other news, theres more clones than ever in smash 4 so you should be happy!
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>>259836626
>lucas 2, confirmed
>ridley 4, doesn't get in
Ridleyfags always and will always get BTFO
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>>259836826
How on earth is Fire Emblem him playing favorites? When did he work at Intelligent Systems?
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>>259836879
Hey man, Decapre is fun as fuck to play.

I don't even care that her looks and normals are ripped straight from Cammy, she has a totally unique playstyle and she just clicked with me as soon as I tried playing her for the first time.
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>wah the director made the game he wanted to make instead of pandering to me specifically! this is an outrage!
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>>259833645
Cry more faggot, the roster is perfect, you faggots need to stop crying about your character not getting in
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>>259837140

>it wasn't Sakurai's choice for Snake to be cut

Actually it was, Kojima said no one at nintendo approached him about using Snake, and said "mr sakurai pls use snake if you can" or something along those lines.
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>>259836458
>crazy shit
That's why you put a filter in those polls (like not including Geno). Worked pretty good for Brawl.
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The only relevant smash game is melee anyway.
All the rest might as well be forgettable mario party-esque one offs.

Melee built a "community" from the standard "fanbase" most games have.
And /v/ hates melee lol
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>>259837481

Neverever etc. And in 5 years we'll have to deal with it all over again.
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The only thing I'm mad about is the use of clones when sakurai said no more clones (then changed it to clones aren't alts. shoulda seen it coming).

He likes to play so many games with Japan Time but the internet is a different place than it was 5 years ago. most people were more upset and impatient with it this go around. thats what caused the leak and how the fans are happy about his buttpains over it.
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Smashfags are fucking man children holy shit.
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>IIT: People butthurt that Birdo or whatever isn't in Smash.
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>>259837310
>Wolf - clone

he had exactly one move in common with Fox, his down B reflector
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Understandable. I assume there is a fuckton of work to decide who to add in a game like this since most characters have unique skill sets and it'd piss me off too if some gaylord spoiled the roster before the game comes out.
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>Nintendo sues ESRB and wins easily
>no more ESRB
>all games unrated for everyone

WIN WIN
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Oh shit, he is mad.
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>>259837950
Nigga, you for real?
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>>259837584
>kojima
That's why I don't believe you. I don't care what he said, he's a lying peepee.
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so i live under a rock, what was leaked?
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>>259837950
shut the fuck up, hes a clone. the concept of clones doesn't mean they are carbon copies, just alike enough to NOT warrant their own slot.

Did you like all the Koopalings taking all those spots in MK8 too?
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>>259837751
No, /v/ hates this attitude. Because no one likes this kind of attitude. You give melee fans and recreational smash players a bad name.
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>>259837950
Landmaster.
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>>259837984

>there is a fuckton of work to decide who to add in a game

fuck off. The roster selection should be the easiest thing in the game.
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>>259838314
the entire roster.
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>>259836826
>Fire Emblem
>Sakurai franchise
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So what's the leaked roster?

Are we really getting the Duck Hunt Dog?
Have Ice Climbers really been kicked?
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>>259838129
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>The character I liked isn't in the game, Sakurai should die for this!

>>259836649
Maximum over-bait.
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>>259838314
smash bros 3ds
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>>259838491
Look at this board right now.

Think about what you just said.

Then look at this board right now again.
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>>259838169

Bowser Jr and Shulk without a shadow of a doubt.
Ganondorf still being a clone.
Pictures of Dr Mario, Dark Pit, Duck Hunt Dog.
Text leak of Ridley, Dixie, Mewtwo that may or may not be true.
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>>259838518
anything noteworthy?
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>>259837140
>Lucas
>Clone
Just like Luigi
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>>259838520
>>259837487
Fire Emblem IS one of his favorite Nintendo franchises. And good thing, too, since otherwise we would have gotten a boring Chrom instead of Robin.
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>>259838540
I'm hoping Duck Hunt Dog plays the same as iceclimbers so they can be an alt skin. they should make that brawler just be the 'retro' and have all the alts be retro buddy teams. make one of em mario and luigi from the original mariobros that was just about hitting pow boxes and pipes and shit.
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>>259837185
>>259837185
They're on the same level. We never actually saw him in action, so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. At any rate, I can't see him being more of a clone than she is.
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>>259838736
Dr. Mario and Falcondorf.
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>Smashbabys have never played a fire emblem game before
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Smash 4 looks about as exciting as Sony Smash. Why the fuck are any of you supporting it?
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>>259838736
its like every thread on page 1 thru 3, how did you get into this thread, have time to post, but not look at any other thread and instantly see what was going on?
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Is Kid Icarus the only series where the number of characters is as high as the number of games in the series?
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>>259838706

just because the average /v/ poster is retarded, doesn't mean a major game dev should be too. It's dumb easy to put together a 8-9/10 roster in any crossover game
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>>259838812
You're pulling shit out of your ass.
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>>259837950
And the blaster. And up b move is pretty much the same. And his side b. Also his recovery animations. And he's an animal and from the same franchise. Clone.
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>>259833028
Next Nintendo Direct when?
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>>259838873
This is the definition of straw grasping
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>>259837526
Not one of these butthurt fags whose characters didnt make the cut, but the roster is far from perfect. If the leak is real, ill be terribly disappointed. The only redeeming character is Bowser Jr and they put him in a clown car. Duck Hunt and Dr Mario (cant remember the other shit choices) are looking to make this the most lackluster roster in Smash history. Even Brawl had a much more well rounded line up
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>>259838341
How?
Casuals shit on the rosters as much as competitives shit on the gameplay, if not more.
Melee did something better than the others dude.
Not saying the others aren't good, they are just riding the community that melee built for them
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>>259838891
I didn't think that Kid Icarus deserved a third rep, that's my only gripe. I played a lot of toon link and lucas so I don't care too much about clones
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>>259836573
>>259834762
>>259834712
>>259834419
Samefag
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>>259839112
No. ROB had 0 games.
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>>259839220
Never. Sakurai will personally make sure to destroy the announcement material.
He will also go to work today, take the hidden vodka bottle from his desk drawer and wreck the shit out of his office in a drunken rage.
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>>259838129

DANTE CONFIRMED
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>>259839228
>I'm hoping

LOL LOOK AT THIS GUY GRASPING AT STRAWS! LIKE O M G HE IS LITERALLY GRASPING AT STRAWS!

yes that is what hoping is. I know it isn't true, hence, hope.
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>>259839076
good questions, let me get back to you
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>>259839143
I mean look at the backlash of what he did.

I guarantee you any roster you make or I or the next posters make will garner the same if not a bigger shitstorm.
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It'll be okay because the leak is fake
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>>259839450
So a regular day at a Japanese office?
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>>259836826
>Says no clones this time
He never said that.
Also FE isn't his franchise, though he did call FEA's cast "rich" lel and say that he enjoyed it, so it's still playing favorites.
What I AM mad about is that he proceeds to cut clones that WERE unique, like Snake, Wolf, and Lucas...and proceeds to add clones that are almost exactly the same.
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>>259833028

Surely he knows you can't really prevent them, right? If the ESRB really are the ones who leaked this, they can lube up nice right now, 'cause I'm pretty sure Sakurai and Nintendo are gonna fuck them in the ass.
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>>259839434
Rob is a game. he doesn't need to be housed in something to be played, you play with him directly.

or don't, Rob doesn't care what you think.
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Why is everyone saying that this was a brazilians fault?
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>>259839172
No, I'm not. He conducted the Shadow Dragon Iwata Asks, after all. His favorite character is Nabarl.
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>>259838812
If he was playing favorites leaf would be the newcomer instead of robin.

Sometimes I wonder if everyone in smash threads is a giant drooling retard
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>>259837487
It's getting way more than it needs, at least character wise. Dark pit and lucina should have been alt costumes. If clones were a must, actually relevant characters such as impa, black shadow, alph, daisy, etc could have been clones. Instead, Sakurai picks and chooses which characters will be alts and which will be clones, and that breaks his stupid fucking rule of no alts that change a character to someone else.
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>>259839736
The TV appears to be a cheap Brazilian model for the domestic market.
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>>259839736
One of the leak photos revealed that it was viewed from a Brazilian brand tablet.
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>>259839776
Who the fuck is Leaf? Also he picked Robin because he felt it represented FE the best.
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>>259836052
>First lesson about Smash Bros is actually making polls and knowing what people wants
Yeah, blizzard took that kind of stance of giving the majority what they wanted.

Sure made WoW a great ga-oh god the tears and vomit won't stop
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>>259839736
what >>259839830 said

and also, isn't it always a Brazilian's fault at the end of the day?
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>>259839671

>clones
>like snake
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>>259839890
>>259839830
What pic?
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>>259839912
>Who the fuck is Leaf
Sakurai's favorite lord
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>>259837140

What Geno animation?
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oh hey
another smash thread
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>>259839434
ROB had 2 games.
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>>259840005
How are you people getting in these threads without accessing /v/?
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>>259840089
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>>259835836
He delayed Brawl 3 times. So I would not be surprised.

Except Nintendo wants him to rush this game out the door.
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>>259838129
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>>259840154
I'm not a big smash player. I just became interested when people said brazilian.
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I wonder if today's pic of the day will be something normal, nothing because Sakurai is pissed or a reveal because he's had enough and just thinks "Fuck it, have your stupid reveal."
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>>259838341
I think he's butthurt and wants melee 2.0

Makes no sense, melee was the best selling game on the gamecube and is still bringing on hundreds of thousands stream viewers for competitive play 13 years later.

So yeah, who would want melee 2.0?
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>>259840039
I can't find it but it was called Geno for Brawl or something like that.
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>>259834134
this wasnt funny at all
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>>259840438
Tomorrow we will see Shulk as an assist trophy. Or Duck Hunt Dog
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>>259840391
thats a pathetic reason to be interested in a post but coooool.
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>Tomorrow
>No pic of the day
>Just a message that says "Tune in tomorrow for an announcement regarding recent events"
>Everyone expects newcomer reveals
>Next day, stream starts
>Pic related, but with Sakurai and the leaker
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>>259840702
>Shulk demoted
>moveset and slot transfered to another FE:A character
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>>259840724
Not really. Since I'm brazilian.
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>>259840702
I would love for this to happen, but it isn't looking likely.
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>>259840846
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can´t wait for his reaction.
He might post on miiverse about canceling the Wii U version and comit sudoku.
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>>259839076
Because most of it is speculative unconfirmed bs from what ive read. I havent been on here in like 2 days so I've missed the latest Smash news too. Not that guy, but has the leak % 100 been confirmed or is it still just taking the guy whose uncle works with nintendo or ersb's word for it? Any links?
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>>259836052

First rule of Smash Bros is- It's his game, stop being a butthurt faggot cos Ryu/Goku/Animu-shit/whatever isn't in the game. Nobody gives a flying fuck.
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>>259840039
It might've been smash kingdom? I remember something else too...
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>>259840438
It's going to be something normal, like nothing happened. The POTD schedule has probably been done in advance, and they're just following it.
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>>259840438

>Shulk was a playable character but after the leak i was forced to demote him to just a trophy, here's a picture of him doesn't he look cool?

>we actually added details to the soles of his boots but you can't see those anymore because he's a trophy
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>>259840860
Holy fuck I would rage like a nigger
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>>259836083

Unsurprisingly, Nintendo devs want to make people happy. Unsurprisngly, /v/smashfags are assholes that expect the worst of everyone.
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>>259840846

>implying it isn't going to be sakurai hanging himself
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>>259834134
>he made kirby
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>>259833028
So, when is he going to do the story mode thing all over again?
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>Implying the leak is the real roster
>Implying Sakurai isn't coming out and speaking about it to make a red herring
>Implying when the game releases, it won't have an entirely different roster


Sakurai is a master ruseman. I'm sad that you all are falling for the trap.
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>>259835010
stop making yourself look like a twat
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>>259840940
I would miss shulk, but then we could potentially have IC and no Dark Pit
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>>259840903
thats why its pathetic. for your own well being stop being interested in things just because you hear the word brazilian. especially on the internet, it will hurt your national and personal pride very very strongly.

you don't need to spoiler the obvious
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I hope the guy who leaked it gets fired/sued.
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>>259841263
It's over man, deal with it.
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>>259839981
Snake is a clone of Big Boss
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>>259841160

>Nintendo devs want to make people happy

Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! Oh my fuckign god, you cannot seriously believe this.

Not a single company out there is looking out for you, they're not your friends, they don't care if you're happy. All they want is dosh dosh dosh dosh, Nintendo is no different.
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>>259841331
why?
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>>259841058
that would be based
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>>259839479
Okay let's try. Here's 19 characters, none are clones, assume all vets are returning:
Little Mac
Mega Man
Pac Man
Tom Nook
Andy
Takamaru
Prince of Sable
Mewtwo
King K Rool
Ridley
Waluigi
Isaac
EBA's
Sukapon
Robin
Ashley
Wonder Red
Captain Toad
Groose

Tell me why this roster that I thiugh up in two minutes is better than the shit one Hackurai gave us after years of dev time.
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>>259841331
Everyone loves the leak, but no one likes the leaker.
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>>259837751

And by community, you mean toxic group of ass bandits, right?
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>>259841383

Thank you for explaining the obvious joke captain obvious.
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>>259840983
its still dads uncle at nintendo tier, but thats just because no one wants this to be the final roster and sadly it looks like it will be.

there is some, although very little, evidence that this is real but even that is speculative.

but its real anon.
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>>259841434
It's disrespectful to the man who made the game. Everybody could have found out the roster in a mere two weeks if he hadn't done this.

>>259841518
Who says I "like" the leak? It's information, everybody is going to post and discuss it regardless of whether they think it was right to leak it or not.
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>>259841518
fucking NO ONE likes this roster except for Shulkfags
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>>259841689
I think Duck Hunt is a great addition.
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>>259841576
You won't the "community" on the internet asshat

You actually have to talk and compete with them IRL
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>>259841428
I actually used to work as a janitor at Nintendo of America and they were always happy and coming up with new ideas to make fans happy. Of course money is part of it but they DO want to make us happy. Sakurai would've released Smash 4 months ago if he didn't want people happy. He could've just made Brawl with a skin. They care.
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>>259841331
I hope Sakurai gets fired/sued
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yo fuck this dude where my marcus fenix and sweet tooth asshole sweet tooth was already in the super smash fo ps3
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>>259841487
Now that's a pretty good roster. Much more preferable than the one we have now.
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>>259841872

>He could've just made Brawl with a skin

He did.
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This is the same fag who got upset because people uploaded those adventure mode videos to youtube and said he want going to make that game mode anymore
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>>259839318
>Duck Hunt dog
>Bad

Kill yourself faggot, choke on your own dick.
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>>259836815
What the fuck I'm watching?
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>>259841667
I hope it disrespected him enough to make a not terrible roster.

Fucking Awakening.
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>>259841872

>He could've just made Brawl with a skin

UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH
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>>259841689
Fuck off the roster is fine, it's just /v/ being obnoxious.
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>>259838873
There is no reason they would remove the Ice Climbers unless they just couldn't work
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>>259841949
Except there's new characters, stages, mechanics, fixes, and honestly I like Smash 4 more than Melee. He's stated before that he wants all the games to be their own things, this is why he doesn't just make Melee 2.0.
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Did leaker say it's the final roster? ERSB just has to see the most objectionable content for its rating after all. DLC also has to be rated separately.

>DH Dog because potential animal cruelty if the violence is too realistic
>BJ because weapons
>Shulk because blades can be violent
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>>259838736
Its not real so no
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>>259842067
>being an edgy 12 year-old THIS mad about which characters did or didn't get in
K
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>>259841667
Disrespectful!?

You know what is disrespectful, putting in a character no one asked for, just to spite the fans. And then making a fuck ton of clones.

Sakuria needs to know that we pay for his goddamn paycheck at the end of the day, and I certainly won't be paying his paycheck for this one.

>inbf you'll buy it anyway huehuehue

Yeah. Maybe. Used.
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>>259841428

Read this, get caught in an endless loop, and kill yourself.

>>259841160

Just because you're a world-hating bastard doesn't mean everyone is. Some people genuinely enjoy their jobs.
Sure, doesn't mean they're not out to make money, but if you can make people happy whilst you do it why the fuck not? They're not EA.
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>>259842182
Keep sucking that dick.
Awakeningfag.
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>>259842150
What the fuck is wrong with melee????
Srsly
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>>259842151
Duck Hunt Dog isn't in the gameplay footage, though.
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>>259836052
>>He just wanted to make vidya games
>Yeah, for himself.
http://www.gonintendo.com/s/103540-sakurai-makes-games-for-customers-not-projects-that-he-would-actually-play
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>>259841872

>They care

Yes, i can tell. Sakurai ignoring the multiple fan favorite characters(not just ridley) and wanking his own dick with kid icarus and just adding whatever random characters he wants because he thinks it's funny and then bloating the fucking roster with clones, Not to mention the spiteful way in which he treated tourneyfags with brawl by making the game as casual as he possibly could shows that he cares a lot.

Fuck your fucking face.
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"Samurai san..."
"Nani?Ore wa watching Cookingu showu desu"
"Hidoi news Samurai san.Subete leaked"
"NANII SUBETE?"
"Hai Samurai san, subete. Gaijins are aware of Daaku Pitoo"
"It cant be helped, cancel the game"

>PTOD
"Hi, this is Sakurai from Nintendo,Fuck your mother , goodbye to your father, game is cancelled".
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>>259842271
See >>259842182

>>259842293
Never played Awakening, not a big Fire Emblem fan. Keep bitching though.
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>>259837513

He was talking about slow, over hyped character reveals, not clones.
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>>259838160
>>259838337
>>259838461
>>259839191


hurr durr they have the same final smash so they're the same character!

give me a fucking break, please.

the blaster projectile functions totally differently, the upB is about as similar to Fox's as Lucario's, and the sideB is totally different too, you can't even hit people on the ground with it.

does the fact that none of their smashes, tilts, aerials, jab, or throw are at all similar just not matter to you mouth breathing retards?

or are you like four year olds that only use B moves when playing?
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>>259841487
Fucking this. It's so easy to make a decent roster. Give any Nintendo fan the means to make a smash game and any one of them could blow Sakurai's out of the water.
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>>259833028
>http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n01/n64/software/nus_p_nalj/smash/PostReturn151.html

>Chin, chun, chen.
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>>259841256
what are you getting at
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>>259842271
Even if you don't give Sakurai a dime, millions of others will and don't give a heck and at the end of the day he and Nintendo are still rolling in dosh.

I tried the whole "vote with your wallet thing" with Bravely Default but it really didn't do any good. An incredibly minority isn't going to make a huge difference unless the game is really, really, niche, like with NIS' games. It's certainly not going to matter for guaranteed million sellers like SSB.
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>>259836815
How do you do those side and up b cancels?
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>>259842151
PEGI guy said they always show you debbuged game with everything unlocked in the videos.

I assure you that is whole roster.
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>>259842150

Well i too am very happy that every game is worse than melee even if this one is slightly better than brawl, thank you sakurai.

>honestly I like Smash 4 more than Melee

That's because you're a fucking casual, or retarded.
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>>259842323
We haven't seen all of the video, there was the Home Run Contest part it cut to for a second.
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>>259842383
>‘My two-year-old connects up the cables all by himself to play your game,’ that really makes me feel happy.”

Can two-year-olds even do that?
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>>259841852

Nice Engrish.

I talk and compete with my friends, because I have confirmation they're not ass bandits. Tourneyfags are ass bandits. Check muh wavedash woah
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>>259839357
This is false. If you cancerous meleefags were to disappear from the face of the earth, Smash and its real fans would be fine, if not better. Let melee rest. No this iteration wont be like it, nor was that the intent. All you meleefags do is make people not want to play Smash because muh floatyness. This is detrimental to the fanbase overall and you guys constantly telling us how melee is what it should be like is sad. I used to like melee but meleefags kill it for me
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>>259833028
>I-I'm g-gunna sue b-because you r-ruined my v-video game surp-prise

what a fucking baby, I hope more leaks get out so I can stop seeing brawl 2 threads every day
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>>259839040
fuck off weeb
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>>259842556
The translation is directly below the quote.
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>>259842281

>Sure, doesn't mean they're not out to make money, but if you can make people happy whilst you do it why the fuck not? They're not EA.

That's like saying "mussolini wasn't that bad, he wasn't hittler or anything". I'm not even saying Nintendo is bad, i'm saying you're fucking retarded for thinking they give two shits about your happiness.
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>>259842383
>Sakurai makes games for customers
That's why we have Ridley in right?
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>>259835663
This. He comes off as a fucking control freak with all of his values in the wrong places. You'd figure he'd be proud of the fact that something he created brings joy and entertainment to so many people, but no. He's gotta bitch and whine and play favorites. Fuck him.
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>>259842063
The tl;dr is that basically it's a robot playing.
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>>259842445
>not spending your hard earned money on a game you think is shit is now edgy

You and all your loved ones can go die of fucking cancer, is that edgy enough for you you dumb piece of shit?
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>>259842384

Spot the tourneyfag!
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Well, I certainly wouldn't want to get on the bad side of Sakurai.
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>>259842383
>Maybe I don’t push my own interests in my games

What a fucking liar.
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>>259842086
>Mario in a coat
>Pit as drawn by deviantart
>fine
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>>259842697
Smash would be akin to motherfucking mario party without a competitive fanbase retard.
Melee is what elevated the franchise. Casual assholes play the game for a week and forget it
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>>259842713
> more leaks
> less threads
?
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>>259842912
Guys look! Sakurai is in this thread!
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>>259842912

Just because i can see how Sakurai is a nigger doesn't make me a tourneyfag you fucking strawkin.
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>>259842891
No, the tripe about Sakurai not deserving to be paid for the incredible amount of work he's put into the Smash series just because he added a few characters/clones you don't like was edgy enough.

So again, see >>259842182
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>>259841487
Tossing up together everyone's favorites doesn't work out the way you think it does
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>Shulk

i didnt think you guys were being serious
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>>259842321
Nothing, I never said it's bad. Every game should be it's own thing. I don't want a Melee again, because we already HAVE a Melee.

>>259842384
He only added 2 other KI characters, and Kirby has 2 characters too. He doesn't add all of the characters we want because then he'll run out for the next game. He doesn't think it's funny, and clones are NEEDED. They were originally skins but he didn't want people thinking that Sonic would have a shit ton of skins of say, Shadow. I loved Brawl too. I loved Subspace, I loved everything. Also tournyfags are maybe 2 percent of the entire fanbase. He would rather please a shit ton of casuals than a few tourneyfags.

>>259842615
Faster doesn't mean better you fuck. The graphics, mechanics, moves, characters, stages, everything is better. Just because I can't use wavedashing doesn't mean it's worse.

>>259842851
How many casuals know who Ridley even is?
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>>259842851

People who actually want ridley in are an extremely vocal, but small minority.

Also, people like you who are always bitching about wanting ridley in are the reason WFT happened
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>>259842605

Turbo mode is a feature in Project M that lets you cancel any move into another move
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>>259843114
get all the announcements out of the way sooner, so when they get announced it'll be old news.
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>>259842912

>guy says that Sakurai did wrong by spiting tourneyfags by making brawl a casual party game
>YOU MUST BE A TOURNEYFAG

No you fucking retard, what's wrong with you? Holy shit.
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>>259843223
Because you say so?
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>>259842384
alright anon. Which character you wanted didn't make it in? You can be honest with us?
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>>259843258
>How many casuals know who Ridley even is?
Everyone who played SSB, seeing how he's been in every game to date.
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>>259836826
>Six clones
What.
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>>259843223
Why not? Isn't that the point of a cross over?
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>>259842593
I know, but as someone who wants to get into the entertainment business, (anything really, comics, movies, I dont care), it bugs me to hell that there are people who simply DO NOT listen to their fans.

If it's going to sell millions regardless of how shitty it is, why not just appeal to the vocal minority who actually GIVE A SHIT about the game, then everyone wins.

But no, fuck the fans who really care, we'll get enough money anyway.
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>>259843223
Anything is better than Dark Pit, Lucina, Doc Mario, and WFT.
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When was the roster leaked? You guys don't really think that fucking Dick Hunt roster is legit, do you?
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I will not believe the leak until I see the roster on an actual 3ds
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>>259843384
Do you really think that many casuals have played Melee? Brawl only had Ridley and people just moved on thinking it's just a boss for Brawl or just a boss from a game they don't care about. Melee didn't have many sales.
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>>259843524
It's shitposters overreacting for replies.
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>>259842150
>>claiming like a game that nobody's played yet more than one that's 12+ years old
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>>259836669
Hi Mr. Gamedev can you tell me how to get started?
I will beg if needed.
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>>259842697

I too wish tourneyfags would catch ebola and bleed out their eyes. Melee's a fine game. So was Brawl. So was the original. So will this one. I can play any and enjoy them immensely.
Fucking butthurt tourneyfags can't keep their mouths shut. You love Melee so much, go play it and stfu. Nobody's interested in Melee 2.0.
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>>259842693
Anti-social much? Afraid of strangers?
Your friends prob suck at smash too
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>>259843390
Dark Pit
Lucina
Doc Mario
Toon Link
Impa if the text leak is right
Ganondorf
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>>259842482
do you see all those letters you typed?

worthless. you are wrong. its okay though, we are all wrong sometimes. you are wrong now, and you are the only one arguing your stance, and multiple people arguing against you. you need to realize when people use the term 'clone' for this game just seeming close enough is enough to qualify. fox falco and wolf are the same characters, their model is the same, their moveset is the same, their style is the same. just because the programmers change a variable so fox kicks 1m and falco kicks 1.1m doesn't make them seperate.

please stop. your investigations into their movesets makes you all the more sad when all you see is minor variations when everyone else seems the same thing. its literal autism. not joking, not meming, not buzzwording. what you are doing is literal autism.
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>>259838812
Yes, especially so we could get Lucina.


I like FE too but Chrom has an equal potential as a lance wielder to Robin.
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>>259841058
>Punishing the fans because some douchebag in the industry leaked his precious roster.

What a petty fuck. I could see him doing this, though.
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>>259840984
>>259840984
Thank you based Miiverse furry girl
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>>259843202
So I should give him my money for something I don't want.

You must still live in Mommy's basement, because you have no concept of the real world.
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>>259842132
probably put too much stress on the pathetic little 3ds
thanks 3ds users!
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>>259842835

Mentioning nazis= you lose. Back under your bridge with you spackfest.
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>>259843258

>it's ok that he took a shit on tourneyfags because there's only 2 of them

You're a fucking retard.

>He only added 2 other KI characters

Plus a billion items, enemies, trophies, i'm sure you've seen the picture so don't even play the fool.

>He doesn't add all of the characters we want because then he'll run out for the next game

That's a fucking bullshit excuse, not to mention that he is REMOVING CHARACTERS FROM EVERY GAME.

>and clones are NEEDED.

Clones are not fucking needed.

>I loved Subspace

I did too, but Sakurai in his usual manchild spiteful demeanor decided that he would never do it again because the cutscenes leaked online.

>How many casuals know who Ridley even is?

Not only has Ridley been in every smash game to date, but he was voted in the top 4 for Brawl in Japan AND every single discussion EVERYWHERE about Smash ends up talking about Ridley, i'm fairly sure that by this point EVERYONE knows who Ridley is.

>Faster doesn't mean better you fuck.

Typical fucking ignorant response from someone that doesn't even play videogames, you probably just play smash drunk with your friends and don't even pay attention, because if you did you would know that BRAWL DOESN"T EVEN HAVE FUCKING COMBOS YOU UPSIDEDOWN NEANDERTHAL
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>>259842912

deliberating implementing baffling mechanics to lower how competitive your game can be in the right hands is pretty shitty, tourneyfag or no.
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>>259843687
Melee was the best selling game on its console.
It is a marquee game at evo 13 years later.
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>>259841487
Hrm. That's pretty good.

Although I still like Duck Hunt Dog, your roster is better overall.
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>>259843729

0/10
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>>259843713
>Impa has to be a clone
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>>259842878

Not at all like all those bitching, right?
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>>259843813
I actually misread your post and didn't see you were talking about you personally buying the game.

But, I feel less stupid in comparison to you after a post like >>259842891, so it's okay.
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>>259843365

Mac, Megaman, Wario and Ike.

OH WAIT THEY ALL MADE IT IN. Stop trying to assume things and strawman stupid retarded arguments because you disagree with me about Sakurai not being a flawless game dev.
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>>259843465
>I know, but as someone who wants to get into the entertainment business, (anything really, comics, movies, I dont care), it bugs me to hell that there are people who simply DO NOT listen to their fans.
You're acting kind of entitled. You're asking Sakurai to change who he wants to put in who would appeal to the majority to satisfy a very small minority. It's going to have 99% of people playing it say "literally who". He'd rather put in loved characters that EVERYBODY knows than alienate the main audience of the game.

>But no, fuck the fans who really care
If you really cared you'd play the game and have fun with it even if that character you wanted isn't in.
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>>259835704
I actually agree with this.
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>>259843258
>and clones are NEEDED.

Why?
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>>259841487
Awesome roster, although I'm not a fan of Groose. If Zelda were going to get another rep, I would easily give it to ALttP-style pig Ganon with a unique moveset. Kind of disgusting that it hasn't already happened.
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>>259843952
So much this
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Don't like a specific character being in or not in the leaks? Can't believe Sakurai would stoop so low as to put in Dr. Mario and Dark Pit? Subscribe to my convenient theory (>>259806598) and everything is all better!
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>>259843952
>>I loved Subspace
It was the most boring thing I've ever played.
>20 hours of fighting shitty OC characters in labyrinths
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>>259843341
>>259843182

It's just too easy pissing off you bloated neckbeards.
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>>259843880

>i'm not going to read your post because it's easier for me to cover my ears and go lalalalala like a retard

That's ok, if you're this stupid then it's pointless to even talk to you.
>>
Thank god i'm not a kid/teenager in this fucking shitty era.

Where's the magic of playing games? Unlocking new characters and discovering shit yourself? Gone forever because kiddies don't have the fucking patience to figure shit out on their own. Even if you avoid spoiling yourself on the internet, everyone will damn make sure you hear it one way or another.

Now, everything is shown even before the damn game hits the shelves. There's no intrigue or mysteries left in gaming. No wonder it's dying.
>>
What's the fucking point of not revealing all the characters if everyone is going to find out about them before playing the game anyway? Not to mention the games comes first in japan and only for 3DS too.
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>>259844056
We're consumers, we pay our hard-earned money for his stuff. If he's doing a less-than-stellar job, we have a right to bitch.
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>>259841949
>>259842079
Duhuhuhu
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>>259844252

The reason i loved subspace was because we got to see nintendo characters interact with each other. Also it gave you an easy and fast way to unlock all the characters.
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>>259843365
Not him but I wanted K Rool and Andy, although any wars character is fine.

Instead, Dark Pit.
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>>259843259

I'd like to see Ridley in the game at some point, but as I don't want his size or strength compromised I'm not overly sure he'd work, or at least work very well.

Maybe, who knows.
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>>259841160
>>259841872
>>259842281
Why are Nintendorks so delusional?
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>>259844364
>less than stellar job
>a few character choices you disagree with in a huge, fun party fighter with tons of modes/stages/items/characters/secrets/extras
I guess your ego is so massively inflated that you assume when you don't like something, everyone must not like it.
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>>259844272

>literally i was just pretending to be retarded
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>>259839390
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>>259842383
Yeah I doubt that, somehow.
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>>259839508
hahahaha

maximum denial
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>>259844112

Who said he was flawless?
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>>259836626
Oguma? Holy shit, I liked him but why the fuck would he be in, he's relevant in one chapter for each of the games he's in
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>>259842615
duurrr
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>>259844608
Please show me one person who is legitimately happy about the clone and cut filled entire roster.
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>>259842959
Where the fuck does he get these outfits.
He wears the weirdest shit.
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>>259844143
But the majority doesn't give a fuck about who is in the game, they're going to buy it because it's smash bros.

I guess I do feel a bit entitled, i've been a fan since the 64, and every smash iteration just seems worse and worse.

>If you really cared you'd play the game and have fun with it even if that character you wanted isn't in.

Except I've been doing that for every past smash game, and i'm just done.
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>>259839970
>isn't it always a Brazilian's fault at the end of the day?
nonono, anon.

It's always the jews'.
always.
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>>259834134
It's funny because it's so true!
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>>259836669
Does your mother know you're on that nasty "4chins" part of the internet?
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>>259844892
I am. The only character I have an issue with is Dark Pit. I'm gonna buy both versions although I was on the fence about the 3DS one for a while.
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>>259842015
Go fuck your obscure dog whose supposed to be "hunting" his duck companion. Worse team character idea ever
>>
The tourneyfags tried to warn you this game was shit, all you fucking casuals
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>>259840860
>tfw you want both shulk and Chrom in
>tfw shulks fans are nicer
>tfw you want Chrom in more
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Hating Sakurai is the worst fucking thing you faggots started. I don't even like the Duck Hunt Dog, but it's a logical choice.

"bwaahhh my childhood character isn't in, instead he put popular characters!!!" Fuck you.

Fuck Mewtwo, he's a shit character that people only want because of nostalgia, there's already THREE Pokémon from gen 1.

Fuck Ridley. I like him, but ridleyfaggots are the worst. He's a difficult character to make and is good as a boss.

Stop crying because YOUR personal favorite character isn't in. If you dislike Bowser Jr just because he replaced the Koopalings (muh mario world) or doesn't even know Shulk you don't have the right to complain about the roster. It's a Nintendo game, if you don't know shit about Nintendo fuck off. There's a better place for faggots like you guys, it's called Youtube. Post "remember dis if u r 90s kid", you'll fit.
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>smash gets cancelled due to leaks
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>>259844638

Cry some more, your tears sustain me
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Shitty meme developer. Brawl sucked.
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>>259844931
xD
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>>259842015

It´s an awful choice.
A really.
Really awful one.

I just hope this isn´t real at all.
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>>259835229

Sorry can't defend him now only because Ganondorf, that shit was unacceptable
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>>259843952
>Typical fucking ignorant response from someone that doesn't even play videogames
Not him but the only ignorant here it's you, Street Fighter 4 is the slowest game in the series, yet it receives just as much praise as the previous games. SFxT is a much faster game, yet it got shitted throw at it.
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>>259843952
Oh so are you going to spend extra time to please a VERY small amount of people?
>Billion items
Yea, there's like 8 at most. And enemies only matter in Smash Run anyways. Also trophies don't matter in the first place.

>removing characters from every game
False, he's removing clones and replacing them. With a few exceptions like Snake, but Snake doesn't even fit in the game in the first place because it's a much lighter game.
That's because he put a shit ton of care and work in them, he doesn't want people to just watch cutscenes and not buy the game, because that's actually what lowered sales.
The only people who actually research into the games are already fans of them. Casuals don't do polls, they don't vote, and they don't discuss. Not everyone knows who Ridley is.
I never did combos in the first place though, and yes it did with certain characters. I don't care about certain small aspects that affect competitive play, I just want to have FUN with my friends. Instead of wanting a non competitive game to become competitive you should grab some friends and actually play with them with items on and everything.

>>259844161
Because it adds to the roster and fixes certain things on certain characters, and then you use either on of them depending on your tactics.
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>>259844608
Look at this fucking board.

Look at all the post shitting on this game.

People think this new game looks like shit, deny it all you want, keep telling yourself thats its only a few people, but it's the fucking truth.
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>>259845065
Chill out, man. I only want Mewtwo cause I thought he had an interesting moveset in Melee.
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>>259844892
Are you seriously this ignorant nigger?

There have been people all day that have said they're okay with this roster. There are people all over the internet that are saying they're okay with this roster.

You're ignoring them and noticing only the people going "HOLY SHIT WORST ROSTER EVER 0/10, GET FUCKED SAKURAI" people.

There are people that have issues only being Dark Pit and Dr. Mario and maybe Duck Hunt but are generally fine with the roster.
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>>259845121
Your shitposting sustains the /v/ status of being the worst board too.
Congrats, you're dung.
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>>259844892

I'm fine with it. Some characters I'd have liked in, but I'm not a self-entitled baby so I'll get over it.
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>>259834134

kek'd at a million miles per hour
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>>259836452
>I would be mad to if my shitty roster was leaked. I remember when the SSBB roster was leaked and I was happy with it but this roster is noticeably shitty.


B-b-b-but its the same roaster plus new people. So for you to be disappointed is to be disappointed before.
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>>259845012
So you aren't happy about the entire roster. Don't move the goalpost you nigger
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>>259842878
You clearly have never read or heard a single thing that he has ever said about game design.
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>>259845252
When people don't like something they post loud and often. I suppose nothing logical I say can convince you so we'll just have to wait until the shitstorms cease, people start playing the game, and then we'll see just what the verdict on the roster is.
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>>259844898

Then there's the door.
I too have been smashing since the original, and I'm fine with the way it is.
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>>259845065
I like how no one mentioned their personal favorites getting in until this guy came along.
Really shows how big of a shitpost this post really is.
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>>259834134
go play Kirby Air Ride and then post this again. i dare you.
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why do you fags act like Sakurai is the only person who works on these games
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>>259844789

Ok, let me rephrase.

Here on /v/ for some reason that i cannot understand, the majority of anons give Sakurai a free pass on almost everything. I honestly do not understand this mentality especially here where any mistake any other developer makes results in most anons crucifying him for it.

Now i'm not saying that everyone should just blindly hate Sakurai in the same way that everyone blindly hates EA and Bioware, but Sakurai in my opinion, has been making an assloads of mistakes since Melee(as in, he made mistakes with melee too), from gameplay mechanics, to roster choices, to other bizarre decisions he makes, but when someone points them out there is always a group of people that try to rationalize it and try to give Sakurai a free pass.

Basically Sakurai has a dedicated defense force here on /v/, on top of that since Japan time with the Brawl Dojo because of the shitposting wars we had with the smashboards tourneyfags mainly Dylantnga or whatever his name was, now there's this stigma here on /v/ against tourneyfags, and while i do think it's ridiculous that tourneyfags are so serious about fucking smash out of all things, i think it's stupid that they're treated like this unhappy boogeyman shitposter whenever someone disagrees or dislikes something that the new smash game is doing.
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>it's okay to leak the endings and plot twists of stories such as Adachi being the killer
>it's NOT okay to leak who is going to in a fighting game
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You know why you faggots are dissatisfied?

Because it was a terrible anticlimactic leak. All of these characters had their fancy reveal coming up to excite you with, but just seeing them all in a list like this is not going to get anyone excited.

Reminder that the game has fucking Mega Man in it. Probably the most anticipated character possible. It was a mistake to reveal him so early, as people have already forgotten him.
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>>259845494
"im 4channer i must hate everything that's how we r rights guys anonymous we r legion xD"
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>>259845350
>still no 360/pc port
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>>259845615
Because he started the fire.
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>>259844892
Here
>>259842086
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>>259840995
>>259840613
That shit was stupid. In hindsight, Im surprised that edgy shit didnt make me hate Geno (and I wanted him in too.)
The only reason Id like Geno to be in the game in now is for the Forest Maze song
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>>259833028
Man what an asshole, that leaker.
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>>259845446
Brawl's roster was great compared to this one, and people still shit on it.

I'm pretty sure how everyone's going to react a couple years down the line about this smash too.
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>>259845410
Fuck off. I'm happy with the roster. Period.
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>>259845306

Need a nappy change?
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>>259845615
>/v/
>knowing shit about videogame
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>>259845183

He literally said it's not just about the speed. Learn to read.
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Him wanting to not have leaks and keep things a surprise for the player is fucking horse shit.

Everywhere outside of Nippon gets it late so they don't get to have a perfect flawless spoilerless experience either way. There's nothing wrong with us leveling the playing field so that we can know the leaks, considering how we'll get spoiled anyway. Not to say that we need to be salty and take away the Jap's enjoyment from them, but if they're not going to give a shit about us in this then we have no obligation to them either.
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i was born in 85, with the NES being the SECOND system i owned (atari being first).

Duck Hunt is well ingrained into my memory and I'm glad this very odd pick for a roster slot is getting in.
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>>259845410
What the fuck? He said he was happy with the roster minus a couple characters.

That doesn't equate to him not liking the roster.

You're a colossal retard.
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>>259834134
Kirby Air Ride, every Smash Bros. Game, and Kid Icarus Uprising would like to have a word with you
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>>259845727
We were all edgy 6 years ago, don't lie.
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>>259842615
Whats it gonna take for you meleefags to realize that no one wants another melee except you?
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>>259845053

Fuck off back to M tourneyfag, regular human beings don't give a shit.
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>>259845665
>I'll ironically shitpost after he called me a shitposter
>THAT'LL SHOW HIM!
Nice quotes by the way, reddit shitter.
I can't wait till this shit is over and you people fuck off.
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>>259845183

sf4 doesn't punish you for fucking approaching. SF in general has always replaced mechanics. SFxT was also slow as shit and plagued with timeouts. Besides that, the major reason it got shit on was because it was half a game with unreleased, disc locked content for half a year. It' a somewhat decent game with the patch, but the damage is already done
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>>259845792
>Fuck off. I'm happy with the roster. Period.
-A man eating shit
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>>259841263
This, you are fools by thinking it is over
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>>259842384
>ridley
>fan favorite
It's hilarious how /v/ has actually deluded itself into thinking there's a massive demand for Ridley. Most people see the suggestion as a joke.
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Tourney fags hatin' the gameplay
Casual fags hatin' the roster
This game will go over great
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>>259845065

I agree with this but, lol, I do actually hate Bowser Jr a little bit for replacing Koopalings. Glad they made a comeback in MK8
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>>259845814
Are you advocating your own expulsion?
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>>259845640
>where any mistake any other developer makes results in most anons crucifying him for it.
Are you blind? Kojima and pretty much any small japanese developer (like Compile Hearts) gets a free card from /v/ for making shitty decisions regarding games.
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>>259845936
I asked for someone that was 100% okay with eating shit, he was only 95% okay with eating shit. So try again.
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>>259845053
The game was never good.
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>>259846114
Ridley is just like Geno. It's a fucking fad to want him in the game. They heard someone say they wanted them in, and suddenly this character they would not have even thought about otherwise they wish was in the game.

The same thing happened with Shulk. Practically no one played his game, but there was buzz about him so everyone wanted him in suddenly.
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>>259845943
>>259845598

Upon being asked by Sakurai if "he ever made a game" the man responded with his own question "have you ever made a good game?", immediately Sakurai opened his mouth to speak only to stop before words formed, his expression perplexed as if searching every wrinkle of his brain. After a good five minutes, Sakurai whispered, but no one heard, when asked to speak up Sakurai screamed in a fit of rage, clutching his Palutena dakimakura "NO", repeatedly, tears streaming down his face, his voice going hoarse. "NO NO NO!" After his tantrum, Sakurai was asked to reiterate "No" he said "I have never made a good game".
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>>259833028
Why doesn't Nintendo just delay this game so Sakurai can make a new roster?
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kek
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>>259844478
>because we got to see nintendo characters interact with each other.
The character intros do a better job of that since we don't have to play a bunch of boring shit to see the handful of good moments.
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>>259846001
That's right, I'm from Reddit because you said so. That completely proves I'm wrong and you're right, even though your answer to my first post was "you're a shitposter" just because I don't agree with you.
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You can play as MII BANE. I dont give a fuck about the roster. The masked man is going to kick your ass.
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>>259834057
this


also I love cock
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>>259843365
Layton. Literally everyone else is someone I wanted, so whatever.
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>>259834134
It's funny because Sakurai never made a bad game.
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>>259842384
>an favorite characters(not just ridley)
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The footage looks convincing enough, but I'm inclined to not believe all this nonsense because of all these obnoxious shitposters.

I wouldn't want to group myself with all-caps, BTFO, and
THIS
H
I
S
.

Like seriously, I thought that people were supposed to be over an age to browse this imageboard.
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>>259845252

Nothing to do with a loud vocal minority of faggots spamming their hatred over and over again, right? How much of the gaming populaton do you think /v/ makes up? Really? The rest of the internet won't even talk to you fuckers.
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>>259845615
Sakurai is simultaneously the only man working on this game, and an "idea guy" who doesn't know shit about games.
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>>259846664
>Mfw SIDF
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>>259833028
Why can't Sakurai introduce some Gameboy Advance characters to Smash?

Didn't everyone use to love Golden Sun back in the day?
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>>259846621
Is MII a big guy?
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>>259843110
Read what I wrote retarded meleefag. Melee was a good game. Smash 4 should have/deserves a competitive fanbase. All im saying is that you meleefags should get meleed by melee's dick in silence. You are Smash's cancer. You arent getting another melee
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>>259846376
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>>259846664

brawl might not be outright terrible, but it's a really mediocre game. If it didn't have nintendo characters on it, it would have gotten 6-7/10
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>>259845195

>Yea, there's like 8 at most. And enemies only matter in Smash Run anyways. Also trophies don't matter in the first place.

Oh excuse me, i didn't know you had autism and you would interpret my post as literally meaning "there is one billion items from kid icarus in smash"

>False, he's removing clones and replacing them

Snake, Mewtwo, Squirtle, Ivysaur, Ice Climbers, all removed, all not clones.

Wolf, Lucas were both luigified clones, they had different specials, different stas like weight and speed and strength and most if not all of their normals were different. Both cut.

In the case of those last two it wouldn't be such a big problem, but it is because he is replacing them with more CLONES.

Lucina, Sakurai himself said she is just like Marth but without the tipper damage, this already makes her inferior to Wolf and Lucas.

Toon Link, he took Young Link's place and while Toon Link is also luigified to some extent, he isn't as luigified as Wolf and Lucas, and yet he is still here, same thing applies to Falco.

On top of that, we got Dr Mario now, who has no excuse for being a separate character when we have alt costumes now and we have Dark Pit who by all means he could be a unique character because of all the items that are in Kid Icarus Uprising, but as far as we know right now, he is a clone too in the same way that Lucina is, which also makes him worse than Wolf and Lucas.

On top of all that we have Characters like Ganondorf being a clone of Captain Falcon after 3 fucking games, he is fucking Ganondorf for god's sake, he is the third most important character in Zelda and he gets worse treatment than characters from fucking Fire Emblem.

So yes, he removed clones, but he also removed original characters, and he is not replacing all of them with original characters and on top of that he is adding more clones. And if those "clones" result to be "luigified" they may still be removed in the next game, and we'll be here in this same argument again.
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>>259846796
>an "idea guy" who doesn't know shit about games

as opposed to?
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Sakurai don't listen to western fans because they have shitty opinions and ideas. Just look how shitty Project M roster and alt costumes are. le epic ninja turtle squirtle
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>>259846923
4 WiiU and 3DS
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>implying the leak is real.
I won't believe it till I see the actual game.
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Why the fuck does everybody want Ridley in? Do you ACTUALLY want Ridley in or has it just become a le epic maymay so people follow it blindly?

He would be like fucking Charizard except less known.
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>>259843294
But they weren't glowing purple!
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>>259845173
People who cry about Ganondorf are almost worse than the people who cry about Ridley. Honestly, I MUCH prefer him giving magic infused, bare-knuckle beat downs on people over OH BOY HE HAS DUMB LITTLE SWORDS. I don't care if he's still a Falcon clone. Plus, I'd be straight up mad if they took away the Wizard Choke, Warlock Punch, and his upward dive that could either end in an uppercut or a magic rape. Face it. Him using swords is a lame fit. The one he pulls out for his taunt is puny and pathetic and the giant one he had from his Melee victory is just dumb GIANT SWORD SO EPIC AND BADASS shit. If they ever changed his moveset, I'd rather see them give him pig Ganon's trident but even then, I'd still rather see him stick to hand to hand.
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What is the point of Bowser Junior?

No one asked for him and no one really wants him.

Even Shy Guy would be more preferable than Bowser Junior.
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I'm so glad samuri didn't cave to the legion of retards wanting him to ruin ganondorf's moveset.

the only suggestion that I could have lived with was to shift the old heavy cap playstyle onto black shadow, and give dorf a new fighting style.
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>>259845905
This so much, and even then 3DS players get it before Wii U players, so the only people who are going to get these characters as a surprise are japanese people buying the game on 3DS.
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>>259847114
Geez m8, it's like you've been here for a year or two.
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>>259847198
I don't care if he's a Falcon clone either. But, I care about him being Brawl tier shit. He's too fucking fat and too fucking slow while also being too fucking weak. That is unacceptable.
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>>259846815
He really hasn't. You might have personal gripes with Brawl because in your eyes it wasn't as good as the predecessor, but it was by no means a bad game. It had great graphics (for the wii that is), great music, played fun and had a large amount of content.
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>>259847114
>Do you ACTUALLY want Ridley in or has it just become a le epic maymay
>asking this on /v/

The fuck do you think.
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>>259846971
It's not a bad game faggot. And it's literally better than the bug ridden melee.
The fucking ip is a party brawler.
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>>259845065
Fucking this.
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>>259847261
I prefer Bowser jr. than Rosalina
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>>259847114
I have truly wanted Ridley since before Melee.

Same with King K. Rool.
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>>259847198
This.

People complain about Ganon not using swords, but a trident would be way better. Fuck swords, even the Falcon moveset is better than that.
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>>259846939
Why is melee at MLG and EVO?
Why isn't brawl?
Sm4sh is brawl 2.0, or, mario party casual.
Yfw it will never ever enter a pro circuit
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>>259847435

>bug ridden melee
>brawl has more bugs
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can someone post the leaked bowser jr, dr mario or something I heard about it on god damn ign of all places and all the videos have been taken down
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>>259837791
I hope I have finally escaped this shithole before then.

Seriously, they should just put "ABANDON ALL HOPE YE WHO ENTER HERE" on the fucking front page of this site.

You hate everyone here. Everyone hates you. Everyone says stupid shit. No one cares about facts when debating anything. 90% of everything is shit posts. And yet you never fucking leave.
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>>259847261
>he isn't a clone
>his moveset seems pretty unique compared to everyone else who's ever been in smash

What's the problem here?
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Sakurai will use this opportunity to sue and get riches to make the definite SSB game.
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>>259846939
We don't need another Melee. Melee is fine just the way it is. What we do need is an actual good Smash game that can outlive it's predecessor.
The fact that Melee lived on and Brawl fucking died is an embarrassment.
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>>259847383
We don't know what tweaks and buffs he got for Smash 4 though so complaining about that now is a moot point. We can't judge shit from the video leak because it was coming from a shit level CPU. Bowser was fucking trash in Brawl and Melee and we all so how improved he was. It's likely that Ganondorf got a balance overhaul as well.
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>>259845065
Agreed.
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Melee was better than ssb64.
Brawl was better than melee.
4U will be better than brawl.
Get the fuck over it.
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>>259847687
https://www.mediafire.com/?xjxh6o9h7e2gvt5

get it while it's hot. i don't think this is everything though.
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>>259838873
>I'm hoping Duck Hunt Dog plays the same as iceclimbers
He would have just kept Ice Climbers if they functioned.
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>>259847668

characters falling over for no reason is one of the worst bugs I've ever seen in a game
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>>259847261
At least he's a unique character and not a clone like Dr. Mario
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>>259847606
Nobody cares about competitive play. Mango is a dirty murrikan fucker and Mew2king is an autistic faggot, it's a better game if they don't play it.
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>>259847083
WHY WOULD YOU MAKE A STRAIGHT UP PALETTE SWAP A CHARACTER
WHAT THE FUCK

THIS IS AS BAD AS GOOD AND EVIL COLE.
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>>259847836
>Brawl was better than melee.
you aren't going to catch anything with such low quality bait
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If you want to play melee play the fucking melee.
It's graphics are awesome for a more than ten years old game.
There is no reason why you can't play melee.
Stop been babies.
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>>259847836

>Brawl was better than melee.
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Nintendo Direct when
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>>259847836
>babbys first bait post
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>>259847691
A good, balanced diet of quality posting and shitposting is necessary to a stable and happy internet life, anon. I never try and have serious discussion on here. I do it all on SA, since blatantly ignoring facts just to instigate will get you probated/banned.
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>>259847579
I wish there was more variations in hand held weapon users.

Rather than swordsman, how about spear uses, axe users, battle mace users, trident plus net users, scythe users, etc
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The roster was technically leaked in the japanese tv commercial, I dont see why it would have been a big deal in those days.
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>>259845640

Well, I dunno if that's so much happily giving him a free pass or begrudgingly accepting that doubling your blood pressure online isn't going to change x or y. Without asking everyone we'll never know. That must be what it comes down to, cos yeah I agree there's been plenty of mistakes in every Smash game, but it's just not worth killing yourself over when games are supposed to be fun. At least there's now four iterations, so most peoples' preferences should be fairly well covered since they're a little different to each other.

lol well like you say they do themselves no favours. I know I can't be arsed wasting time on someone that has a rage-on over a video game, especially when they have something like Project M catering to their tastes pretty damn well. I roll my eyes whenever I see one post, and their posts are always so aggressive, holier than thou etc....cos obviously if you're not a hardcore tourneyfag you're of course a casual, right?


People would probably respond better if tourneyfags weren't swinging right outta the gate.
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>>259847836
>Brawl was better than melee.
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>>259848000
You would care as much for smash's roster as you would mario party's if those guys never played
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>>259846939
>Smash 4 should have/deserves a competitive fanbase.
Smash 4 won't last a month competitively. You need some depth to the mechanics in the game so the skill ceiling isn't reached in a week and people get bored of it. The reason people still play melee is because people are still learning new techniques today.
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>>259845350
>>259845682
What if it gets ported to PS4 and maybe PC if Bamco ever feels generous with 60FPS and rebalancing, along with all the DLC and Stroheim?
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>>259848228
Shut the fuck up you killed samus's parents
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>>259848228
Go kill Samus's family asshole
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Fucking nintendrones want a fucking rehash melee 2.0
Let the man do his thing. Je is the only good game developer on this dead company.
Get your head out your ass and respect the samurai.
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Maybe if you assholes didn't "get hype", nobody would have felt like leaking anything. Ever think of that, assholes? I hope you all learned your lessons.
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>>259847341
I'd be fine with this just so long as Ganondorf's moveset doesn't become more fucking swords. I'm with these guys in that the trident would be better. >>259847198 >>259847579

>>259848228
>axe users
pic related
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>>259845682
>liking weeb things
>not owning a playstation

top kek
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>>259847341
I thought I was the only one that wanted Black Shadow
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Smashfags are THE WORST.

There is NO PLEASING YOU FUCKING LOSERS.
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>>259834582
I used to browse Zelda timeline theory sites back then. Now I own Hyrule Historia and my life is miserable.
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>mfw I actually wanted Palutena to get in
>mfw based Charizard is no longer held down by FLUDD the turtle and Leafy McBulletseed
>mfw Greninja, Robin, and Little Mac look fun as fuck
>mfw Ike blew out Chromfags, Gematsufags, and patternfags alike
>mfw Bowser reigns supreme
>mfw Samus is no longer held down by ZSS

I'm happy as fuck about this roster.

Chibi Robo and Mysterious Castle are shit games. Get over it, autists.

>Implying it isn't just PM/Meleefags desparetely trying to discredit a man just because

>>259841487
>Takamaru
>Ashley
>EBA's
>Sukapon
>Prince Sable
>Captain toad
>Groose
>No Palutena
>No Greninja

TIPS FEDORA
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F
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Your roster is ass, faggotron
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>>259846193

Naw, I just thought you must be cranky cos you're sitting on a lil mountain there.
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>>259848197
In case for some reason you thought this was in any way funny or interesting - it's not.
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It's funny how when that roster was floating around, a bunch of people were excited and hoped it was real.

Now that more hard evidence has been given, everyone has a problem with it.
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>>259847114
I don't want Ridley. I want Meta-Ridley
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>>259848563
amazing arguement.
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>>259848146

Never.
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