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EUROPA BARBARORUM 2 IS RELEASED Remember to listen to this

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EUROPA BARBARORUM 2 IS RELEASED

Remember to listen to this while reading this

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?663786-Europa-Barbarorum-2-0-released!
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>>259821701
listen to what delusional anon?
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YES YES YES YES YES YES
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About time.
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>>259821885
Welp.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAlMaVYIzqw
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSqHfAoE6q0

It's happening.
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>>259822169
That
fucking
soundtrack

I remember playing the shit out of rtw
the glorious battles
the glorious feels
holding that bridge with armored hoplites in egypt and reking egyptian armies by the millions
oh man
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I still haven't played EB for RTW. Rome 2 left a bitter taste in my mouth.
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>>259822392
Rome OST is goat
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HOLY FUCKING NIGGA SHIT
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Time to play as Pergamon!!
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Today gauls will suck roman cock!
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>>259823428
>playing as Pergamon
>not doing your first as the Arche Seleukeia
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Fuck yes. Hopefully this can make me forget about Rome 2
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>>259821701
>http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?663786-Europa-Barbarorum-2-0-released!


But what does it do.
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Virus, don't download
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>>259824202
LOL
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>>259823971
My thoughts exactly.

Sounds like some secret club for the special people.
No plebs allowed!
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>>259823971
It's a total conversion mod for Medieval 2 Total War Kingdoms, a sequel to EB1 for Rome Total War that has been in development since 2007. Changes the game completely with a focus on historical realism, adds another shit ton of factions such as Baktria (a Greek kingdom in Afghanistan) and another new 8 ones for this version.
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>>259824423
>Medieval 2 Total War Kingdoms

Oh..well. I never bought past Rome. As it was the high point in the company.
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>>259824669
>I never bought past Rome. As it was the high point in the company.

Then you missed out, most people are in agreement Medieval 2 was pretty fantastic too.
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>>259824750
>most people are in agreement Medieval 2 was pretty fantastic too

I'll look into it.
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>>259825002
You could just pirate it.
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>>259825105
I could do a lot of things.
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>>259823864
>Rome 2
brr dont remind me
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I never bought past Rome. As it was the high point in the company.
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>>259825626
Irish beat the fuck out.
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>>259825673
Are you me?
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Why exactly do they use Kingdoms as the base?
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Best unit.
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>>259826457
Kingdoms is a lot better than base Medieval 2 and allows for lots of new scripting, permanent forts, Teutonic Order family system for barbarians and a bunch of other stuff.
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>>259826642
Is Rome 2 really that bad then? I've never tried it.
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Not Canon.
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I know what I'm doing for the next few hours.
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>>259827006
trying to actually download it?
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>>259821701

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME
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>>259826768
>Is Rome 2 really that bad then?

I haven't bought a triple A game since it was that bad.
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>>259826768
Yesh, abysmally bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fWVthMjnok
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>>259826768

It single handedly made me lost faith in the video game industry, haven't bought a game since.
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Thanks OP, downloading

as someone who never played EB or any other TW mod before, what does this mod actually change?
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>>259821701
I've never played EB before, does EBII still happens in the time of the romans or in the medieval time as it uses M2TW engine..?
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>>259827118
You know it.
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>>259827545
>>259827565
>>259827610
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>>259827652

Roman time, it's a complete overhaul.
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>>259827565
>1. The usual Rome 2 haters. Rome 2 had nothing terribly wrong with it, fantastic graphics and fps, balanced online (unlike Shogun 2), none of the bugs people rage about, even before patching. I asked 300 people and 297 people agreed with that statement. It was the media who hated on Rome 2, people like Angry Joe who made it look bad, and had to steal other people's clips because they could not find enough problems themselves. Also the game was a little overhyped.


jesus
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>>259826768
It's not that it's terrible, but it is pretty bad. It was the most hyped up sequel to a PC game and it ended up crushing people's hopes far worse even than Spore did. People built high end PCs for it, waited 9 years, followed the videos and then saw the trainwreck that followed them.

>>259827703
Fucking slow as fuck torrent.
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>>259827780
So should I go directly to EBII?
Thanks for answering.
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>>259827652
400AD to 900AD :)
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Can't even reach their website due to high traffic.

Then again, their website has always been slow as hell.
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>>259827652
It's a detailed and historically accurate mod for the classical age. It usually goes through early republic to imperial Rome.
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TREE ARR E EYE
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>>259827937

I don't know, haven't played EBII yet so I can't claim it's good. If it's anything like what they did with the first one it's probably going to live up to the hype though.
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>>259827937
It'd be worth it yeah, though I wouldn't be surprised if you find it hard since it's pretty realistic.

>>259827970

This is wrong, it's 272 BC to 14 AD.
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>>259828224
>This is wrong, it's 272 BC to 14 AD.

I hope they are still doing 1 season/turn then.
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>>259827937
Yeah, though expect armies to be expensive and actually important. You can't have doomstacks like in vanilla TW and navies are also expensive as hell. It makes for a better game.
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>>259821701
Redownloading MTW2 + kingdoms.
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>>259828224
>realistic
What does it change in terms of realism in the combat from the original game or Rome II.?
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>>259828979

Not to mention siege weapons and elephants, I mean god damn they fucking eat gold.
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>>259829062
This. Thanks for the heads up OP.
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>>259829087
IN EB I combat was a lot slower and armored troops were hard to kill. Flanking and maneuvers were critical if you wanted a decisive victory.
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YES
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSs
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>>259829087
Cavalry aren't so horrifically overpowered unless they're lethal cataphracts.

Battles take a long time so it becomes all about flanking like it did historically.

When units are locked in combat they actually stay together instead of drifting apart into a stupid mass like in Rome 2.

>>259829231

Most factions start with a large army and undeveloped economy, you'll go into the red within 2 turns if you don't disband them all. The Seleucid campaign in 1 fucked me over with that, you can either march onto your enemies straight away or disband all your advanced units and have to rebuild from scratch while able to build up your economy.
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>>259821701
Thank you muh men

For those who are goint to download M2, i used this the other day, fast and 1 clik install
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:BE0339AF53A6ECC9645A40FF9A08BD13D622BE96&dn=medieval+2+total+war+gold+v1+05+repack+vol1&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337
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>>259821701

this would be great if total war wasnt such a shit series

seriously, they NEED to do this with mount and fucking blade
all the rome mods sucks for it

>total war
>pleblian shitlord franchise
>THIS MOD IS GREAT GUYS
>YOU CAN MAKE BOXES OF TROOPS MOVE AROUND AND SLOW AS FUCK
>WHEN TWO BOXES COLLIDE "AKA BATTLE" YOU CAN TOTALLY SEE THE SIKK ASS CARNAGE OF SHIT GETTING REKT

yeah no. do this on mount and blade please
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>>259822392
THIRTEEN!
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>>259830027

THIRTEEN!
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>>259829785

I think the Saka Rauka campaign in the original EB practically forced you to go in the red and then use what you had to pillage and carve out a land.
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PROPER THREAD THEME

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJLXyBzMci0
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>>259830273
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YDngmnixSc
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>>259822392
>Gracchus, give me a funky ass beat. Imma bout to drop this shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhuTAnJcHH4
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>>259822169

In all fairness the Rome soundtrack is good, but since it's about EB shouldn't we actually be listening to THIS?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp7O0zuWAPQ
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>>259831676
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbcPiSYTnhU

My favourite. So pleasant to listen to on the campaign map.
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>>259830027
>>259830224
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>>259821701
So I guess it's not standalone and I'll have to reinstall M2TW, right?
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>>259833290

That's right
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>>259833290
And Kingdoms. It'll be worth it nigga.
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>>259833810
>>259834119
My hard disk is ready.
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>start battle
>javelin gets thrown
>game crashes

rome has seen better days
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>>259825626
Lusotannan (Lusitania?) was so fucking fun in EB1
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>>259827565
>I have a giant, metal shield and these people are throwing rocks/shooting arrows at me, what am I gonna do?!
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>>259827937
Medieval 2 has a lot of fantastic mods, and the base game itself is also a lot of fun. I particularly liked the Britain expansion.
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>>259835881
I recommend IB2 Britannae Conquestus as a mod, it's criminally underknown. It's about Britain after the Roman government abandoned it.
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>If the game crashes, please remember to post the log and savegame where it happened in the tech help subforum, this will help us a lot. Along with a description of what you were doing when it crashed, obviously. But before you do that, remember to check if there are any hotfixes available - it might just be that your problem has been solved already.

Be a pal and help the modders out.
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>>259827842
>ended up crushing people's hopes far worse even than Spore did
Now that's complete bullshit and exaggeration. Diablo III was a biggest overhyped and disappointing shit than Rome 2 and both doesn't compare to Spore.
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>>259837267

It's subjective. Even though the Total War series has seen a rise in popularity it's still a game with a niche audience, but to that niche it might be way more disappointing than both Spore or Diablo 2.
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>>259837783
>Diablo 2

Diablo 3, of course
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>>259837783

>It was the most hyped up sequel to a PC game and etc
Then make yourself clear and put it into perspective because it lacked it there. I can agree that it was big blow to the fans of the series, because i'm myself included since i play it since Shogun.
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>>259838289
That was a different person.
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>>259839326
The important part is that the original poster read it.
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>>259839728
I did. It was essentially just hyperbole on my part
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>>259823862

>Muh Seleukia

You fuckers are the worst.
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>>259823862

I think Seleukia has neat units, but I can't stand starting as a large faction.
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>>259840623
I genuinely just find them very fun to play in EB1 and they were very unique in being a superpower beset on all sides by enemies.
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What are the bests mods that increase graphics, balance game-play, is historically accurate, and is not a giant bag of dicks aimed in your direction?
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>>259841112
For Rome Total War.
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Is there any show as based as HBO's Rome?
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>>259841276
EB or Roma Surrectum II.
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>>259841409
>EB or Roma Surrectum II.

Thanks.
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>>259841340

No and fuck them for cancelling it. Now we get 6 seasons of GoT. Thanks Obama.
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>>259827646
DO YOU LIKE HAVING FUN?
DO YOU LIKE UNITS THAT LOOK LIKE THEY SMEARED THEIR OWN SHIT ON THEMSELVES?
DO YOU LIKE TO REWRITE HISTORY?
ARE YOU A NORMAL PERSON AND NOT MASSIVELY AUTISTIC?

IF YOU ANSWERED NO TO ALL THOSE QUESTIONS THIS IS THE MOD FOR YOU.
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>>259842647
I'm watching the first season on Prime right now.

I'm upset.
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>>259840623
whose the worse Selekiods, Mongollboos or Byzantaboos ?
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>>259842883

Its a tie between Byzantiumfags and Seleukaboos. Cant decide which I hate more.
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ROMA VICTOR
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>>259843435
Vorenus... had a hard life.
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Ave' Ceasar
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>>259827565
haha those fucking comments

I swear feminists believe women are actually physically capable
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How do I download EB for Rome TW?

As in the first game, the download link for 1.1 which I need to install 1.2 is dead.
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>>259844792
Why is he so perfect
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>>259844792
Did they not trust the extras with swords or something?
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>tfw stopped playing EB1 because of the utter retardation that is AI on Rome's engine
>tfw Medieval 2 fixed this
EB2 better not be another Rome 2 or I will just kill myself
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Oh /twg/
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A bit fucking late EB2 fuckers.
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>>259846268
rip GOOK
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>>259845961
I see plenty of gladiuses.
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>>259847264
I don't. I see cardboard sword cut outs.
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>>259847479
I see a TV show that is not being pants on head retarded with its budget.
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>>259848297
Oh. I STILL SEE CARDBOARD SWORDS.
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>>259845658
He is a consul of rome
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>>259843435
He managed to get into the Curia being a plebian son of hades.
Having your daughter raped was just tuesday back in time.
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Guys I'm afraid I'll forget to eat.
This is too much for me to handle.
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>>259848578
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>>259835221
Yeah they're investigating the issue.
It's only 1.0

They're on the case. Just keep adding bug reports and save game copies so they can see it for themselves.
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>>259829973
>Stainless Steel
>Broken Crescent
>Call of Warhammer
>Third Age
>shit

My friend you are missing out. They are brilliant.

Vanilla TW games are shit unless thats what you mean?
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>>259829005
Marakanda is dead
>>259829062
>uninstalling them
You dun goofed.
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>>259821701
1. Is it mod foldered? I don't want my Third Age and Stainless Steel total conversions getting fucked up
2. how big to download?
3. How big to install?

Thanks guys.
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wait will EB2 have that bollox in medieval 2 where you can only recruit 1-3 elite units every 20 years/
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>>259849848
>it's okay for historical shows to use cardboard swords when they got the historical weighted throwing javelin down

It's glaring compared to how good everything else is.
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Been waiting for real Rome 2 forever. It's about time.

Can anyone report on its state? Is it playable?
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>>259850652
Hopefully.
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>>259850695
>its glaring
Not for those of us without autism
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>>259850695
The show is well written, and the acting was nicely done

So props weren't 100% legit, it was a good show
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>>259850839
If I want to train a specific unit I should be allowed to, no artificial limits. Just make the units really expensive so if I have a huge empire I should be able to pay for it.
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>>259850758
Yes very playable some dodgy problems here and there due to a larger player base now discovering bugs and glitches. Team already working on CTD's and bug fixes aswell as a 1.1
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>>259842883

Prussiaboos and to an extent all Napoleonicfags. If I have to listen to one more fucking second of arguing whether or not a Jaeger was misrepresented because of not having the EXACT fucking shade of green coat then I'm going to flip a table.
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>>259851595
Implying your spindly ass arms could flip a table
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>>259851285
>artificial limits
you think all your dudes should be elite, wealthy, experienced veterans? Because the majority of these armies were just young, poor kids.
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>>259851773
Tables aren't that heavy to flip anon
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RIP GOOK
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>>259844792
>tfw there will never be a new season

FUCK YOU MAFIA FOR BURNING DOWN THE SET. FUCK YOU BBC FOR NOT EXTENDING THE CONTRACT. FUCK YOU MONEY GRABBING JEWS FOR INFLATING THE BUDGET TO UNSUSTAINABLE LEVELS.

Yes I'm still mad 7 years later.

>"I discovered halfway through writing the second season the show was going to end. The second was going to end with the death of Brutus. Third and fourth season would be set in Egypt. Fifth was going to be the rise of the messiah in Palestine. But because we got the heads-up that the second season would be it, I telescoped the third and fourth season into the second one, which accounts for the blazing speed we go through history near the end. There's certainly more than enough history to go around"
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>>259851848
If I have the money to fund it, yeah.
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>>259852039
>tfw no more Vorenus and Pullo
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>>259852034
>>why was Medieval 1 so shit

Who would say this?
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>>259852039
>tfw no more good shows/movies/games about the Roman Empire and won't be about the goddamn gladiator arena
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>>259852034
Rome 2's biggest mistake was using the Empire engine, designed specifically for musket and cannon.

It was built on a weak foundation. It can not be fixed.
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>>259852815
You have I, Claudius.
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>>259851773

Why you gotta be a busta to me man? Are you another one of those MUH TOTENKOPF MUH HUSAREN-REGIMENT NR. 5 MUH ELSASS-LOTHRINGEN faggots?
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>>259852319
:(
It hurts.
>>259852425
Me and my friend had an England RP campaign when we were like 12. Including offline war plans,royal edicts(with fake stamps) and economic plans. The paper is full of tea stains and controlled burns to make it look like an old document. We conquered the entirety of western europe extending towards the Balkans. We had peasants fucking EVERYWHERE. We had maybe 6 fulls tack elite armies and the rest were militia and peasants as garrison units.

We did real good.


Anyone else miss the incest mechanic from MTW1?
No idea why they removed it. It happened in EVERY royal and noble family in those days.
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>>259852836
And they will never release hard-coded features to the modding community so they could at least try to make some amazing mods that would fix their craptastic game
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>>259852034

>no mention of overhand
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>>259853279
Naw nigga I'm just playin. You alright?
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>>259852836
>>259853338
Imagining what the modders could do to RTW2 if it was moddable gives me a semi.

Unfortunately the old time favourites like Kong and Darth have retired from modding along with their teams.
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>>259853295

If it's one thing I really miss from Medieval 1 it's how rebellions worked. Instead of randomly spawning stacks of well trained armies, your disloyal Generals turned against you, using the armies you had given them. That simulates really well why rebellions are devastating.
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>>259853625

Aw shit nigga yeah you know we cool
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>>259853717
>Darth
>doing any work other than stealing other people's mods
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>>259853927
the put darth vader everywhere
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>>259853817
Haha cool, see you later dude.
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>>259853782
That was a good one aswell.
The events seemed a lot cooler aswell. The hand drawn images and sound effects. The accurate death toll was cool.

It's also a war map so it looks like how a medieval king would see his kingdom in books and maps.

M2TW/kingdoms with mods is even better in most respects.
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>>259853338
I want an explanation on how they managed to drop the ball that hard.

Did they think it was a good idea?

Did none of them play the game?
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>EB2 Graphic Enhancement mod
It's hideous.
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>>259854240

Yeah, the overall atmosphere in Medieval 1 was amazing. I loved the portraits of the different kinds of units, since the models looked like shit in battle.
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Someone post turn times so we can build a consensus, I can't be fucked downloading and isntalling it just to find out that it takes 1 min per turn.
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>>259853717
>old time favourites
>Darth

Are you pulling my leg m8
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>>259854460
No one really knows, but being able to play it on a tablet means the game was released with those intentions all along.

And Rome 2's engine was made for Gunpowder Total War games such as Empire/Napo/FoTS.

AI in TW games has always been pretty shitty, and they just resort to AI cheating/altering stats.

Rome 1's engine for combat was just fine, a few things wrong with it, but if they had just worked on bugs/problems from Rome 1, and just bring it to a slightly newer engine.

I'm sure it would have gotten a lot more positive feedback
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Wasn't Warscape designed with gunpowder and linebattles in mind? Isn't that the reason the melee combat is so awful?
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>>259855569
Yeah, it was made just for Empire/Napoleon/Fall of the Samurai
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>>259855147
fuck I wish segmentata was in EB. Can't you suspend the autism just this once?
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Does anyone have a tier list to share, want to get into the series.
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>>259855569
The reason why R2 is shit is because they rushed it out, it's as simple as that.

No one is going to tell me that the engine that made N:TW, albeit updated, couldn't make R2 without it being in it's current state.

And the end of the day the fanboys got what they wanted, Rome 2.

Even though anyone with a bit of sense could have told you the logical conclussion of the Warscape Engine was Victoria/Empire 2 TW.
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>>259856672
Well, what time period of warfare appeals to you the most?
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>>259856397
Play RS2 if you want that
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>>259853997
god this shit is always so annoying.
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>>259856802
Any time, really I love everything.
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Guys, someone give me a rundown of what this is
I'm almost completely unfamiliar with the total war series, but I enjoyed playing Shogun 2 singleplayer
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>>259856984

>http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?161111-Europa-Barbarorum-II-FAQ

There you go
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>>259856959

Yes, but what do you like MORE?
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>>259856984

Ancient Rome era mod for Medieval Total War 2
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>>259857276
Think really much about it, whould be ancient egypt, but I know more about greek mythology if that matters
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>>259857227
Thank you based anon, I am a very lazy person
>>259857301
How is that different to Rome, Total War, aside from the graphics being better?
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>>259856742
>people wanted a good sequel to one of the best games in the franchise
>fanboys got what they wanted

You seem mad.
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>>259856959
Medieval 2 with Stainless Steel mod is pretty nice

Beware of the far East though

The Mongol rape train has no brakes
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>>259857462
Roma Surrectum 2 for Rome 1

No factions in Rome 1 got any real love for roster variety other than Rome (unmodded Rome 1)
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>>259857462
vanilla Rome 1 has ahistorical Pharaonic egyptians, it was one of the reasons EB was made in the first place.
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>>259857462
I don't think there's any good ancient egypt mods for a TW game

I mean the closest you could get is something that might include them as a sidefaction or their skeletons in the Warhammer mod
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>>259857676
>mfw horse archers everywhere
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Nice to see Syracuse having walls again.
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>>259856672
>I wouldn't bother with Shogun 1 personally
>Medieval 1 is my favourite so I'm biased, defo get the Viking invasion expansion though, it's superior to the M2 version IMO
>Rome you'll either love it or find it boring, get mods.
>Medieval 2 vanilla is boring get mods, Kindoms on it's own can be fun, mods too
>Empire is shit IMO
>N:TW is just better in every respect, it also has the best multiplayer of any TW
>S2 is okay, i personally find it too fast paced for melee combat. FotS the expansion is pretty fun, though the land battles can get boring, the naval battles are fun, especially if you like explosions.
>R2 in its 'current' state I've been told is playable, there's lightweight modding on steam workshop, I probably wouldn't recommend R2 since I don't think CA should get your money, but you'll have to decide for yourself on this one, I personally think it's a better game that Rome vanilla although I never particulary liked Rome 1, obviously not as good modded
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>>259857834

Are you seriously complaining about Rome being the only faction to get any love and then suggesting fucking RS2
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>>259856959
>>259857676

If you want to experience the Mongol Rape even more vividly, play Broken Crescent. ALLAHU AKBAR
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>>259857542
Some random features and historical accuracy. Kind of.
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Posting best song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkw0wwsjEwI
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>>259858010
>decided to play as Mongols for a few turns
>didn't have to move from where I was standing because archers have retardedly good range and THEN I have horse archers to back them up
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>>259858139
I didn't recommend EB to him because if he's never played Total War games before, it's not best to start out with a mod like EB

And I'm not fucking complaining about R1 because it's my favorite out of the whole series.
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>>259858376
The Mongols where best for their environment, but they would have failed in mainland Europe.
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>>259858376
I never felt better about abusing stakes and gatehouses, goddamn horsefuckers
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>>259857676
>>259857834
>>259857843
>>259857928
>>259858142
Well thanks, will try Rome 1 first. And after reading this thread will never try rome 2
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>>259858765

What about the Huns?
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>>259858142
>all the dead faithful at the hands of the Mongols

fucking monsters torn the middle east a new one, I only managed to stop them at my capital, couldn't catch them with my guys in heavy armor, everyone without heavy armor stood no chance against that many arrows
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>>259827545
>>
Best track for the best faction

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcLjdSdvnoM
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>>259859026
They only succeeded because of the power vacuum that was present at the time and the fact that there was no legitimate opposition.

And right after Europe got it's shit together, but Atilla was basically GOAT at what he did. He saw an opportunity and seized it.
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i pre ordered this shit

never again
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I just realised it's been almost a year since R2 came out, CA development cycles means we might get a new game announcement before the years up.

Would you cross shekels across CA's hand again it was a WH40K game?
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>>259860274
>Would you cross shekels across CA's hand again it was a WH40K game?

Only if they have mod support, and I'm waiting until it releases first.
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>>259858765
How come?

I'm not calling you out or disagreeing with you, I'm just curious on how far he could have gone if he hadn't died when he did
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>>259860274
>Would you cross shekels across CA's hand again
No
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>>259860274
No. CA is permanently on my blacklist.

If they manage to have another good game, it'll be a fluke like Shogun 2. I'll pirate it. It'll be a waste of time giving them money as they clearly cannot learn to include basic fucking UI features in their sequels.
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>>259859901
You played it when it was least playable, much like the vast majority of people who complain about it, and state it as a fact its still not playable.

Yes Rome 2 had a terrible launch, but its been more than playable for awhile now.
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>>259860274
They managed to pull Fall of the Samurai, so I might support them.

I'll wait until after launch though, and I'm certainly not buying into the jewing they'll pull with the Warhammer DLC potential
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>>259860274
>a WH40K game?
I'm still waiting for the Warhammer Fantasy game. It's in my bargain bin wishlist.
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>>259860686
>Rome 2
>playable

Depends on your definition, I suppose. I can't stand playing it for a couple of minutes, therefore it's unplayable.
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>mfw just a couple days ago someone said that not only have mods fixed rome 2, but it is now better than rome 1
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>>259858025
>syracuse
>biggest walls of ANY greek city of its time
>artillery scattered all over the sea walls
>fucking claw of archimedes
>unwalled city in rome 2

it was at this point I realized everything was to go downhill
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>>259860969
Did you beat the crap out of him?
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>>259860852

Which mod?
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>>259861057
But Anon! The removal of walls means fewer siege battles!

Right? Right?
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>>259861103
no because it was on 4chan but i did make sure to call him a faggot
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>>259860686
Unless the core game has been changed: the innumerable terrible decisions made on the campaign map, worse graphics and running worse than Shogun 2, family tree added, etc. Then it's still not playable.
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Fuck you /v/
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>>259861168
None. You can't change the fucking UI in Rome II. It's hard coded to be shit.

You wish you had Shogun 2's city management screen.
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>>259861168
It's not a mod, it's a picture some guy made in photoshop of what he wants the game to look like.
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>>259860745
try call of warhammer
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>>259861168
i believe its photoshopped

ui in game is hardcoded and cannot be changed, along with many other things. CA hate mods and have done everything they can to fuck the modders with each release.
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>>259861348
>>259861384

That's a fucking shame because it looks juicy
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>>259861528
Shows you how much of a step backward Rome II is from Shogun 2.
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>>259860485
Their style of warfare is completely worthless once they get to Germany.

Imagine trying to shoot someone, only to have the trees obscure your arrow, your formations have broken and are now in a brutal melee, and all of a sudden a Bavarian man named 'Hans' comes out of nowhere with a sword the size of you standing on your friend's shoulder and decapitates your horse, then bashes your skull in with a mace. Your friends try to recuperate, only to find a mob of peasants with clubs hiding in the bushes who proceed to murder them as your main host is ridden down by the terrible offspring of tanks and horses.

Western European warfare was pretty respectable.
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>>259861636

Damn right. The whole politics system is still a fucking piss-poor effort of actual politics compared to what it should have rightfully been. It's barely even on par with the original Rome in terms of complexity
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>>259861512
The shitty UI is the worst thing about the game now . it's like they made it for people playing on a cinema screen
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>>259861175
perhaps if they made sieges not shit in the first place, people wouldn't have an issue with excess sieges
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>>259850839
Medieval 2 had that limit because the mechanic was based on feudal levies, which you could not train from scratch the way Romans trained their standing armies. So, hopefully, for the sake of historicity, the limit will be removed.
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>>259861187
God's work
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tfw no good game to be a redcoat in
tfw im bored of /gsg/ map painting now
now i have nothing
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>>259861882
It's funny how CA basically sabotaged their own game.

I mean, it should be a no brainer to have a family tree for a time period that spans hundreds of years. Shogun 2 didn't really need a family tree, but Rome certainly does!

Or the unit cards in battles. Maybe it SHOULDN'T take up a third of the screen? Maybe an advisor SHOULDN'T be popping in every time a unit gets a little on edge?

It's the little things that kill Rome II. The things that would normally be fixed by mods but for some reason cannot be.

>>259862064
I liked Shogun 2's sieges. I didn't really have a problem with them.

Rome II's sieges? Nope.avi
Hell, there's not a single kind of battle that is enjoyable in Rome II.
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>>259862218
I don't mind touch, but only as am assistent thing, they have to be together with keyboard, too bad the game was designed to make it better
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>>259825626
>Saka Rauka

Did dose niggas even exist
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>>259862390
>tfw no fps game where you command around a line in battles of thousands of soldiers
All I want is to feel like I'm in the middle of the battle of Waterloo, is that so much to ask?
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>>259862894
Yes
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>>259862492
Shogun 2 sieges weren't that good imo, considering you could assault a castle the same turn you besieged it, because secret samurai wall scaling suction cups. It made the campaign too rushed as well.

FoTS sieges were great though, simply because of the massive artillery bombardments to leave the castles in a smoking ruin
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>>259862894
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saka

i believe so
>>
>>259860274

I've sworn to never forget
>>
>try to play Rome with mods
>can barely maintain 30 FPS, not even in small battles
>M2 with mods runs fine in all battles, rarely goes below 60
This is great news.
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>>259863071
That's certainly understandable.

What I liked about Shogun 2's sieges was that the forts were pretty open and had multiple layers, kind of like the higher tier castles in Medieval 2.

Although unlike Medieval 2 you didn't have to drag siege equipment everywhere to get at the inner layers.

But again, I can understand why the samurai suction cups were immersion breaking.
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>>259862919
>tfw I thought ryse was gonna be like this
I still haven't forgiven crytek
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>>259863495
Rome 1 only runs on one core
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>>259864186
Don't all TW games use one core?
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>>259864575
I was told both Rome 1 and M2 run on a single core
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>>259864186

I thought M2 was the same
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>you have to hover over a unit card for several seconds to see all the information about that unit

CA are the worst developer ever
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>>259864804
>number of men in the unit has been replaced by a green bar

t-thanks CA...
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj_xbHiVv94
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>>259826768
I'm having a lot of fun with it.

I bought it recently and have the divide et impera mod.

I didn't buy into the initial hype for the game and I like it.
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>>259821701
>10 year old strategy game is still not bested
fuck off civ fags
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>>259864667
>>259864575
I have no idea. I just know Rome 1 does it. Was told about it when i asked the same question about why it ran so badly on my pc years ago
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>>259824423
So is this going to replace the original Rome?
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>>259865909
"Civfags" have nothing to prove. Rome and Civilization don't play like each other at all.
>>
game still got that problem when you attack only 5 guys will connect and then the rest of the unit just stops and stands in battle stance
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>>259859026

In their time, it actually wasn't the Huns that did the most damage to the Romans. When Attila revved up his rape horses, a fuck ton of other barbarian tribes flooded into Europe just to get the fuck out of the way, which brought them into conflict with the Romans. By the time they had to deal with Attila, they were already pretty worn out.

Also, are Huns in the game?
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>>259866224
they very much do in the overworld map and city management
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>>259866250
You're talking about rome 2 right?
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>>259866397

No, it's too early for huns. You'll have to make due with Sarmatians and Saka Rauka for your nomad-fix.
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>>259866494
I'll give you that, but in general they're quite different.
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>>259866397
No. This is about 400-500 years before the huns show up
>>
>>259866397
Huns are playable in Barbarian Invasion for R1
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>>259866397
They are in Rome 1: Barbarian Invasion
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>>259866535
Medival 2
>>
I have Rome and Medieval 2 bought from a sale and have played neither.
>>
>>259866850
Download Stainless Steep and give M2 a try, mate
>>
>>259825626

Where's mah Indomitable Gauls?
>>
>>259866984
At least play vanilla for a little bit to appreciate what Stainless Steel adds.
>>
>>259866775
Do you prefer blobs over the unit maintaining formation in battle?
>>
>>259867483
Big black area in scotland.
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>>259867727
>ever playing vanilla TW
>>
>>259868217
Rome is enjoyable.
>>
Is Napoleon any good?
>>
>Download EB2
>Install
>Won't launch
>Needs to be installed to the Medieval 2 directory where the M2 EXE is
>That's the directory I chose
>But it put itself into a mod folder

Fuck this

TW is shit anyway
>>
>>259867837
But they dont maintain formation. Once the first three guys make contact the rest of them just stops on the spot
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>>259861762

They had that problem in India. Steaming, thick jungle, tigers and insane Indian gorilla warfare made them fuck off and move on to more open pastures.
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>>259870819
>>259861762
That's why you specifically avoid fighting in those areas

Europe was not a powerhouse at the time either
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>>259871169
Oh totally, that's why I said I respected Khan, he saw what he could do and seized it.
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>>259870684
AND ITS DOING IT AGAIN

This mod is literally impossible to play mod foldered
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>>259852107
>experienced
>veteran

Money can't buy dat shit. Cept from mercs
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>>259871964
>Cept from mercs
>mfw medieval mercs

They're actually all shit. It's not like the Golden company in ASoiF as much as it was the sparrows.
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>>259827565
none of those units were worth it however. the only ones that were worth shit was the "amazonian" horse archers you can recruit in sythia.
>>
>>259872297
Well, some mercs. Certain zones have beast mercs. Can't name any haven't played med II in years
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>>259868517
Vanilla Rome is garbage
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>>259872718
Do you even like games?
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>tfw Archer units with wooden stakes are one of the most importants units in M2
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>>259870684
you need the launcher mod
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/downloads.php?do=file&id=2824

then go to this page
http://forums.totalwar.com/showthread.php/132407-MEDIEVAL-II-%E2%80%93-How-to-run-mods-after-22-07-2014-update
the latest patch actually broke a lot of shit and made some mods unplayable.
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>mfw installing EB in Rome is literally just dump installing everything in the folder then adding the mod start option

Pleasantly surprised.
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>>259822169
>that feel when, sometimes, this is good enough to be content and not need to start a game while letting the music fill your soul
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>>259859575
>implying that adding shogun 2 mechanics to rome is anywhere close to a worthy sequel
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>>259876262
You have a good point.

Being worthy to Rome would be hard though.
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>>259827837
>typical rome 2 supporters. cannot even remember the gameplay mechanics that made rome 1 great so they don't care when they are butchered in the sequel
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>>259872779
It's true. Rome was only good with mods
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>>259876594
What was bad about it?

Mind you, you need to argue why it was a bad game on release.
>>
Roman soldiers can't do Testudo. Guess I will stick to good ol' EB in Rome.

I really hope they do Europa Barbarorum in Rome 2.
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>>259876902
I don't remember all the problems I had with it off the top off my head, I'd have to play it again. The map was really shitty, but that's to be expected in a TW, and the Romans were far too overpowered.
>>
one of my biggest dissappointments about rome 2 was something that i was genuinely excited about: the idea of an army that gains stats through time. In my head i was thinking the 13th, that over the generations they became legendary and the best to be a part of it and the pride in its history game them incentive to be better and have status, etc.

instead, it's all tied to a general that dies after a handful of turns and there is zero continuity, so it just becomes a pointless gimmick.
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>tfw away from muh pc for several weeks and then this happens
At least I can be happy for all y'all. Anyone know any entertaining total war lp's?
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>>259878969
>lets plays
>entertaining
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>>259878608
It was asymmetrical game-play that required you to fight differently depending on which faction you where and which army you fought, but there was never a real issue with balance beyond the AI being easy. If it had real campaign MP it would be GOAT.

The map, was okay at the time, but other games did do it better. In fact loads better.
>>
ALL ROME WILL BE AMAZED A SUCH A VICTORY THE DAY IS OURS!
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>>259879753
I just didn't like that when I played as the Romans I could wipe out doom stacks of Guals with a handful of Hastai. One of the things I liked the most about EB was that I could get my ass kicked as Rome.
>>
>>259880080
well, the romans did kick the shit out of the gauls in nearly every instance..

but beyond that, did you make it to the endgame, when you had to fight the other two roman factions?
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>>259880080
Well, they did wipe the floor with Gauls.

Other factions required a bit more blood. Including 200,000 men in a single day to Hannibal the Elephant Man.
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>>259821701
>pikes are still fucked up
>no reforms
>placeholder units
>8 years of dev time
>>
Why bother? Just play Shogun 2.
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