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>all this console war faggotry Let's discuss vidya

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>all this console war faggotry

Let's discuss vidya
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-ZWY8aAiKg
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Where's Morrowind?
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>>257762557
>Final Fantasy VI
>Not Final Fantasy VII
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>FF6, not 7
>no OoO
>No Morrowind
>MGS3 over MGS1
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>>257762768
You can squeeze it in between PS:T and MGS3.
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SOTN should be added for making best Belmont seem like a pussy, being mind controlled by Shaft and all.
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Where's half life 2?
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>no TLOU, HL2, uncharted, COD MW2
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>>257763089
>OoO
What?
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>>257762557
>no morrowind
shit bait list
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>>257762557
MGS3 deserves literally every word of praise it gets.

That game is so amazing.

I am actually going to go play right now.
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>trinity
>5 games
Ok, which idiot made this again?
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>>257762557
Castlevania is a more overrated Metroidvania than Super Metroid. Super Metroid was actually amazing for its time (and still holds up fairly well aside from the outdated item selection).
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>>257762557
Wheres Chrono Trigger? that 6/10 peice of shit gets way too over hyped
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>>257763240
I'm sorry, is TLOU, Uncharted, and MW2 anywhere NEAR the level of praise PlaneScape Torment and Deus Ex get?

Let's put it this way: FFVI is towards the LOW end of the scale.

>>257763453
>doesn't know what a cross is
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>>257763360
eh, i liked 1 and 2 better but MGS3 was still really good. i think it's a bit overrated, but overrated != bad.
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>>257763360

>muh boss
>muh mary sue shit
>muh menu simulator (cure, camo, stamina)
>muh ridiculous amount of health that allows me to run and gun the whole thing
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>>257762891
VII helped modernize the JRPG genre into the 3D era and has easily the second best soundtrack in a FF game next to XIV:ARR.

VI was a downgrade from IV and V in terms of character quality, gameplay and narrative
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ITT: Shit taste
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Where's Final Fantasy VII, Ocarina of Time, Morrowind, and SotN?
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>>257763470
>Castlevania is a more overrated Metroidvania than Super Metroid

This is what Superautists actually believe

Superfags are the shittiest fanbase on /v/

Enjoy your butthurt over Prime's popularity
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>>257763152

But Simon was never mind controlled by Shaft.
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>>257763779

>FFVII
Not as overrated as FFVI
>OoT
Not as overrated as Deus Ex
>Morrowind
Not as overrated as Planescape: Torment
>SotN
Not as overrated as Super Metroid
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>>257763818
>implying you can only like one or the other
I like both Prime and Super. What are you going to do about it, niglord?
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>>257762557
>Lets discuss vidya
>Instantly ruins the thread by posting b8
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>>257764032

You're probably one of those delusional waifushits who think Samus wasn't a generic whore with no personality before Other M
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Baulders Gate 2 is infinitely times more overrated than PS:T

System Shock 2 is more overrated than Deus Ex

MGS4 was the best MGS
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>>257764261
>Look at me, I'm shitposting ironically!
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>>257764345
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>>257762557
>This is the list of games that came out before I started playing videogames
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This is the /v/ version, right?

The actual top 5 as of 2014 would inarguably be CoD:MW2, Half-Life 2, Final Fantasy VII, Skyrim and TLoU.
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>>257764501

wow
such depth
10/10 character
definitely not a shitty avatar that attracts only the most autistic waifufags
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FFVI is by no means overrated. VII, X and V would probably fit that bill. SoTN should be there too. I'm glad yo saw through the rampant MGS3 cocksuckery here.

>>257763687
Absolutely not, I think you've clearly not played them for a long time. EVERYTHING FFVII is praised for was done better in VI, minus horror elements.VI was a pioneer for the best elements of the modern JRPG, which were promptly thrown out for being too ambitious.

Arguably I'd agree in gameplay compared to IV and V, but the setting, narrative and characters in VI were very strong. VI's biggest problem was the terrible balance, and broken state it was released in - while IV and V were tight as fuck.
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>>257762557
>i havent played any of them
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There is no holy cross or trinity of games or anything like that. And if there was, it would not be any of the titles in the OP, except maybe Super Metroid. MAYBE.
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As an MG fan since the very beginning, MGS3 is the worst of the "Solid" games.

It took the fast-paced stealth gameplay the series was known for and turned it into a Splinter Cell clone set in the 60s. Instead of giving us the Big Boss we heard and came to fear over the years, they gave us a Solid Snake reskin...without a pair of testicles, an unhealthy obsession with an ugly dyke, no personality, and a weak supporting cast. The boss fights are all awful except for The End and (if you consider it a "boss") The Sorrow.

The last hour is a mess. The Shagohod battle is atrocious and damn near impossible to lose, and requires no thought whatsoever (shoot the treads, shoot the back, repeat). Volgin comes out and...guess what! Shoot the treads again!

And holy. fucking. shit. Kojima tried way, way too hard to make us care about The Boss. She became fucking Goku of the Metal Gear universe. She commanded the Normandy invasion? Oh, and she was the first woman in space? Oh yeah, and she single-handedly stopped the Cuban Missile Crisis? AND she sacrificed herself to stop the Cold War?

I'm sorry, but MGS3 was a joke.
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>>257764696
The only character designed to attract waifufags would be Other M Samus.
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>>257764345
Nope, she's always been eye candy since her debut. There's nothing wrong with having attractive females in a video game.

Your move
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so i'm on the presumably last part of bravely default boss battle with final form airy

please tell me that is all i have to do and is anyone here with a 10k damage summon willing to help out?
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>>257764005
>>FFVII
>Not as overrated as FFVI
can you possibly be more wrong
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>>257764758

>FFV
>overrated
>more so than FFVI

This is why no one likes VIfags
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Where's Ninja Goemon?
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>>257764696
Did Samus fuck your boyfriend or something? If you want to see waifu faggotry head on over to Persona or Fire Emblem threads
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>>257765148
are you SURE it's the final form?

are you SURE she's the final boss?

but yeah, I have a maxed summon, add me: _________git gud__________
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>>257764865

Except the waifufags of "muh strong independent waifu" (who never existed outside their headcanon) are far more cancerous than the moe blob from Other M.
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>>257763568
Last of Us literally won more Game of the Year awards than any game in history, and no one outside of this site even knows what Plane Scape Torment even is.
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>>257762557
Shit taste general? Shit taste general. DA2 is a underated gem
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>>257764696
Agreed, she needs a really melodramatic monologue throughout the scene expressing every exact thought running through her mind before she can even have a glimpse of character depth.
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>>257765449
No wait, I'm confused. You refer to "strong independent waifu" as being headcanon, even though that was exactly what was being displayed in the games (minus the waifu part.)

Are you trying to ruse me here, anon?
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>>257765452
>than any game in history
That's MAJOR bullshit.
>no one outside of this site even knows what PlaneScape Torment even is
My dad who only ever played Diablo and Ghouls & Ghosts knows what the fuck Planescape Torment is. Stop pretending that you're some kind of patrician for enjoying updating your journal.
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>>257763626
>>257763641
Honestly I think MGS1 is far more overrated
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>>257765452
if someone was to remake the game from the ground up

updated visuals
a little change to the gameplay nothing major

then maybe people will care but no one loves the game as much as people loved say half life to do that.
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replace ffvi with chrono trigger
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>>257763818
What? Super is my favorite game of all time, and Prime is my third favorite. The vast majority of people love both.

And anyway, overrated means the disparity between the actual quality of the game and the amount of praise it gets. Castlevania gets less praise than SM, but its still more overrated because its not as good.
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>>257765669
>that was exactly what was being displayed in the games

No it wasn't, she's a shitty silent protagonist is most games.

Even Alex Kidd shows more personality.
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>>257763568
I think the image was about the overrated games in general, and that makes it wrong to begin with because no one outside of here gives a shit about Planescape Torment.

If it were based on overrated games here on /v/, there should be at least VtM:B
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>>257764005
>OoT not more overrated than Deus Ex
>FFVII not more overrated than FFVI
Shut up, kid.
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>>257764696
>Monologues are the only way to develop characters
>Liking subtlety makes you autistic
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>>257765923
>No it wasn't

You said, and I quote, "strong and independent."

She's strong because she kills huge fuckoff monsters all the time as her job.

She's independent because she works alone.

Therefore, she is strong and independent.

>inb4 I WAS ONLY PRETENDING etc
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>>257765904

Both Metroid and Metroidvania are shitty backtracking simulators, they're a 7/10 at best.
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>>257765923
Wands of Gamalon Link was the best because he showed the most personality, So was Other M Samus
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>>257765926
It's the Holy Cross of Overrated Games, you monkey. Any old overrated game doesn't deserve a spot, it has to be SPECIAL. Plus, nearly everyone who's ever heard of more than ten RPGs would be able to recognize Planescape: Torment, it's on the same level of pervasiveness as Baldur's Gate and Fallout.
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>>257765779
Last of Us literally has a world record for most GOTY awards.
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>>257766137
You're right I prefer straight lines to the ending. Exploration hurts my head
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>>257766118
>>She's strong because she kills huge fuckoff monsters all the time as her job.

As does pretty much every single videogame character in history.

Except a huge chunk of them do it with their own strength and not relying on pussy technology.
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>>257762557
replace deus ex with morrowind and i agree
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Thank you for removing Xenogears. You are my greatest ally OP.
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>>257766272
Post it, baby. I'm honestly curious.
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>>257765779
Not that anon, but it won something like 200 GOTY awards. Gaming media has become too mainstream, just like movie critics...every Tom, Dick, and Harry wants their opinion to be "heard" so they hound Metacritic and Gamerankings until they're added to the list of reviewers.

Seriously, look at old games and how many reviews they had, then look at them now.

And I'm 24, been playing vidya since I was literally 2 or 3 and played Bartman on the NES...never heard of Planescape until I came to /v/
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>>257766137
Oh sorry I guess I'll discard my own opinion and replace it with yours now since its a fact. Thanks
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Can we at least agree OP's list is shit?
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Why would you care about overratedness, they're still good. It's not like they're total piles of shit being hailed as the best thing ever.
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>>257766358
Samus's own strength is obviously a major part of it considering she can jump three times her own height outside of the suit.
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>>257762557
But those are all excellent games, unlike let's say Skyrim and Bioshock: Infinite, which are crap, and TLOU, which is merely okay.
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>>257766320

>exploration hurts my head
>if you don't suck Super Metroid cock, clearly you're just no intelligent enough to appreciate the vast intellectual superiority of such artistic masterpiece

This is why Superfags are the shittiest fanbase on /v/.
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>>257766386
not him but you are lazy uninformed dumbass if you didn't that tlou has the most goty awards
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>>257762557
Mate, when baiting to start proper discussion, you have to keep it more specific than posting five games with as much to say about them as that.
It's way too general, so the thread will be nothing but shitposting.
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>>257764758
>ffv
>overrated
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>>257762891
>>257763089
>>257763779
>>257765940
>>257765158

Calling FFVII overrated has become so commonplace in gaming discussions that it has retroactively become underrated. Make any FFVII thread and you'll get barraged with posts trashing it and praising FFVI, V, and IX instead

Same applies to OoT and Half-Life 1/2
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>>257766667
I never said anything about art just that you're stupid. Maybe Fez and Gone Home are more up your alley anon? :)
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>>257764852
>this post blew MGS3 so hard the fuck out that nobody responded
Never seen that before
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>>257766663

All of these are better than shit like Super Backtracking or Menu Navigation Solid 3
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>>257766386
http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/01/24/the-last-of-us-is-the-most-awarded-game-in-history-by-critics/
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>>257766846
>retroactively
Oh fuck off
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>>257766859
What are you trying to accomplish? Do you actually think anyone believes you?
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>>257766663
Why do people say this? Skyrim is easily better than Oblivion.
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>>257767072

Most people outside this hipster shithole do.
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>>257762557

>No Ocarina of Time
>No MGS2 let alone MGS1
>Super Metroid

Ocarina was more revolutionary then any other on the list. Also no matter how great was MGS3's gameplay the experience wasn't definitive. It has to go to MGS2 or MGS.

And FFVI had terrible pacing and whole lot more issues.
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>>257766846
Fuck you nigga let me post a video showing why OoT is complete shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOC3vixnj_0
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>>257766867
>>257766669
I suppose TLOU is the game that got the most GOTY awards in a single year yet. Does that mean it's so overrated that it deserves a spot among such games as Deus Ex and Planescape: Torment? You guys said it yourselves: video game "critics" these days have no valuable opinions, so logically their ratings have no meaning.
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>>257762557
>MGS 3
>Not MGS 2

BAITED
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>>257767072
MGS3 is the lowest reviewed MGS game, and was last on MGF's list of the best MG games (in terms of the Solid games...Snake's Revenge was last overall)
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>>257767185
Maybe you should just get some taste and stop being assblasted
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>>257767236
Amongst plebs and literally every other site but here it's overrated
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>>257762557
sym !P8Judn6AjQ
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>>257767220
>complains about not being able to see the sliding spikes

Literally a 3-year-old could get its pattern down.
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>>257767236
Critics might not but it all leads to opinions

I personally thought the tlou was a good game others might not agree with that some that never played the game will never play it because all they see is a movie and thats fine.

if you're going to go on a imageboard and get mad over someone's opinion that does not effect your daily life unless you let it then so be it.
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>>257766667
>someone claims that they like exploration
>take it as an insult
I swear that there's something wrong with you faggots

>>257766667
>This is why Superfags are the shittiest fanbase on /v/
But that's not Smashfags or Kojima-fanboys
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>>257767220
>it's shit because a famous eceleb said so
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>>257767236
That's why I've been saying that these "trinity of overrated games" things would all say "most overrated on /v/" if they were serious, because most of those people who gave those reviews to LoU likely haven't even played PST or Deus Ex.

They are hardly the most overrated games when the only high praise they get come from a handful of people. I've never seen any lists or videos even mention Plane Scape outside of /v/, so it might be one of the most overrated games here, but certainly not overall.
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>>257762557
MGS3 and DE are considered the best games ever made by /v/ so it's easy to say they are overrated if you belong to the faggot minority that disagrees :^)

http://strawpoll.me/2334762
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>>257767220

Yes, it's cool to shit on OoT now. Videos like these are precisely why OoT doesn't belong in the holy cross.
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>>257767726
You left out Persona fans, Fire Emblem fans and Souls fans. Especially Souls fans since DaS2 and Bloodbourne
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>>257767220
>listening to this cunt after Wind Waker
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>>257767348
Ground Zeroes has a 76 metacritic, and peace walker has an 89, compared to 3's 91.
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>>257767909

There are more Metroid waifushit threads than Persona.

Check the archives if you don't believe me.

Both fanbases compete for the worst of /v/.
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>>257766358
She's also respected by GF members and feared by Space Pirates.
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>>257767348
So you're saying that its underrated then? How is this showing that it belongs on the list?
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>>257768216
Fuck that. I say Soulsfags blow them both out the water. Smashfags are pretty bad though, Smash threads are a fucking wasteland
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>>257766852
okay you want attention here you got it
>Splinter Cell clone set in the 60s
so nothing changed? because you know SC is a clone of MGS2 with minor tweaks
>they gave us a Solid Snake reskin...without a pair of testicles
Solid snake is a clone of big boss why are you surprised by this? and not even going to bother with the rest of going too much into detail because you sound like you have brain problems.

I'll say this if you want to troll at least play the game
if you want to legitimately criticize a game , understand it.

that is a problem people who hate on the most overrated game , underrated and inbetween on /v/ is that they could play a said game but never understand it.
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>>257768216
Come on now. I bet there's like 2 or 3 persona thread right now compared to 1 Metroid
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>>257768459
Smash is only bad when there's speculation to be had though. Before the Smash 4 announcement the threads were pretty tame.

I'd say Souls fans have every one else beat by a very wide margin.
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>no TLOU or the Souls franchise
Dropped.
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>>257768612
What does Chie smell like anon
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>no Sotc
>no ICO
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>>257768803
Fuck you you can't put a game twice and call it a trilogy
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>>257768803
At least LoU had semi competant gameplay. I'd say the holy trinity would be Bioshock Infinite, Uncharted 2 and Gone Home.
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>>257768573
>SC is a clone of MGS2 with minor tweaks
SC is nothing like MGS2, at all.
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>>257767754
How can you hate a guy that's so good at Zelda
Check this shit out son
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp7f_nCKfFw
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>>257769085
uncharted 2 was fun

Gone Home
Bioshock Infinite
Mass Effect 3
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>>257769085
But Uncharted 2 has semi-competent gameplay. It's regarded as one of the best TPS' of all time.
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>>257769309
>SC is nothing like MGS2, at all.
if that was true then there would not have been a discussion about this in the first place.
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>>257762557
I donĀ“t see System Shock 2 in here
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>>257769408
Who the fuck rated Mass Effect 3?
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>>257762557
>FFVI over VII
>Super Metroid on at all
Have you never played Super Metroid or something or do you get your sick kicks on posting this bait every single day?
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>>257769776

I'm banned most of the time, so it's probably not me.
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>>257762557
Never played a metroid game in my life and I'm playing Super now and its awesome. Honestly the game still holds up
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>>257763687
Name a better charater than Celes from Final Fantasy IV or V
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>overrated
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>>257769653
The gameplay of MGS3 slightly resembles SC in how slow it can be. But I cannot see any resemblance at all beyond that.
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>>257769975
Stop posting bait and you'll stop getting banned
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>>257769996
Lightning from FFXIII to FFXIII-3
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>>257762557
Super Mario Galaxy 2 needs to be put on there somewhere
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>>257769452
>Uncharted 2 is regarded as one of the best TPS' of all time.

Byb whom? Neofag?
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>>257770096

I'm not banned because of /v/ though.

"Bait" isn't "an opinion I don't agree with".

FFVI and Super Metroid are obviously very overrated.
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>>257770832
Have you played them?
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>>257770832
Really if anyone likes something I don't it's overrated
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>>257763892

>simon is best belmont
you are the nigest of my niggas...my nigga
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>>257770940

Yes.

Super Metroid has shit controls.

Terra is the shittiest JRPG character in history. I guess there are worse, like Cait Sith, but they aren't in prominent positions like her.
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>>257762557
Put the whole LoZ series up there. The games are good for sure, but not the pant-shitting gift of god people insist they are because they see everything through rose-tinted nostalgia goggles.
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>>257771185
>Super Metroid has shit controls.

Really now?

They were obviously improved in later titles, but can you really call them shit because Samus is a bit floaty?

Or is this

an ebin ruse?
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>>257770832
you havenrt been here long

EVERYTHING anyone doesnt agree with MUST be bait
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>>257770551
By people who play third-person shooters.
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>>257768573
>lol u dum!
He named specific parts wrong with the game. I doubt YOU played it, really.
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>>257766981
Get over it faggot. He speaks the truth.
>>257767220
Oh look another fag that can't think for themselves and just posts videos to talk for him.

FFVI is far more overrated at this point then FFVII. Get over it VI fags.
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>>257771462

Super Metroid is bad in just about everything else.

Every major Nintendo franchises of the time had better music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BStjuHfP238
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT9w3zk5vsc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDYDJ_LfdOM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gRdNy8cOPw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IP_IsXL7b4
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>>257762557
>not FF7
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>>257772414
>says that it's bad in everything else
>only post music

ruse confirmed
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it says overrated games but I don't see any overrated games
I'm confused
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>>257772414
The fuck? Super Metroid has music that fits the atmosphere.

And don't you be telling me that Brinstar and Norfair aren't nice tunes.
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>>257772414
Go fuck yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj5DWB5a2n8
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>>257773093

Ain't got shit on Stickerbush Symphony, but feel free to circlejerk in denial.
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>>257762557

Agreed on Super Metroid and Planescape: Torment, but MGS3 and FFVI get shat on by fans of other games of their respective franchises.
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>>257774259
torment may be overrated now, but when it released people were all like "baldur's gate is better"
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>>257774259
You got that completely backwards. It's Planescape and Super that seem to get shat on while /v/ almost always has 99.9% of circlejerkers jerking it over MGS3 and FFVI.
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>no dark souls
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>Final Fantasy VII considered overrated
>People start talking about the overlooked FFVI
>It's now overrated
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>>257763687
>VI was a downgrade from IV and V in terms of character quality, gameplay and narrative
Nigger what? I love V, but there's no way you can argue that VI somehow was a downgrade in narrative from that. And both V and VI trounce IV in gameplay.
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>>257774623
The only Metroid that regularly gets shat on by /v/ is the Prime series.
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>>257774643
Why would Dark Souls be overrated?

http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/dark-souls
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/dark-souls-prepare-to-die-edition

>those user scores
>meanwhile

http://www.metacritic.com/game/game-boy-advance/final-fantasy-vi-advance
>no negative or even mixed reviews
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-2/metal-gear-solid-3-subsistence
>user review almost lines up exactly with critic review

You tell me what's more overrated? Most casuals never even heard much less played DaS. Even the smartest of DaS fans admit the game is great but has tons of flaws.
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>>257762557
;_;
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>>257774623

MGS2 and FFVII fans hate MGS3 and FFVI, respectively.
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>>257775260
No I actually see Fusion get shit on the most. It's also my favorite Metroid game. Super is most loved on /v/. I got no issues with that though.
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>>257775385

And Superfags may or may not bitch about Prime, but Primefags never bitch about Super.
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>>257762557
>No Link to the Past
You fucking blew it, /v/.
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>>257775580
anti prime fags=/=superfags
Super is by far my favorite video game ever created, but prime 1 is without a doubt in my top 5
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>>257770832
Since when was Super Metroid overrated? Metroid has never been very popular. There are a decent number of games that take after it in designing exploration-focused 2D games, but it's never been something that every single shitty website puts on their worthless Top 100 lists.
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>>257775673

No one cares about LttP except as hipster backlash against OoT's popularity.
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>>257762557
>>257775673
good games getting praise doesn't make them overrated
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>>257775385
Yeah because most hate for those games comes directly from those assholes. While MGS2 and VII fans never wanted to spread hate on those games. It got to the point where both of those games got pushed out and only MGS3 and FFVI can be discussed with minimal shitposting on /v/. So you tell me. What is more overrated again?
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>>257775260
>>257775443
I think you mean Other M gets shit on the most. Because it's shit.
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>>257775896
>lttp
>hipster
Now you Zelda fans are just getting ridiculous. One of these days you guys are going to start calling OOT the most hipster Zelda game.
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>>257775896
I like OOT better but LTTP is amazing as well.

Those are the only two Zelda games I played all the way through.
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>>257771185
>Terra is the shittiest JRPG character in history.
What's so bad about Terra? Even if you don't like her, plenty of other characters get focus in the WoB, and in the WoR you can avoid her completely until the ending.
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>>257772414
Super Metroid had music that fit the atmosphere perfectly. It was an integral part of creating the feel for each part of Zebes.
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>>257775984

None, that's my point.

Shit flinging between FF fans is so intense that none of the games end up being overrated.

90% of Final Fantasy discussions is saying X is GOAT, Y is shit. No game in the series is exempt.
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>>257776594
>90% of Final Fantasy discussions is saying X is GOAT

FFX is the most shit FF there is. Muh Tidus and Yuna love. Ugh!
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>>257776473
>Super Metroid had music that fit the atmosphere perfectly.

Doesn't mean it isn't shit though.

FE4 music was both great and it still fit like a glove. Chapter 5 theme (when your entire party including the protagonist is slaughtered) is a funeral march.
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FFVI is incredibly overrated

Many places will say shit about FFVII

Hardly any will say anything about FFVI

IGN voted FFVI the greatest RPG ever. Not just JRPG.
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>>257762557
>Games OP never finished because they aren't interactive movies with 'Press X to win' gameplay, and because OP's a shitty casual.
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>>257763568
I'm going to play Devils Advocate here.

TLOU is literally the highest praised game ever made. And it is also very good.
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>>257776956
Actually type in google top FF list and you will see that all sites list FFVI as the best one. But nooooo it's VII that is most overrated some how.
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>there are people that actually think there is such a thing as overrated.
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>>257776010
>Other M

literally what
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>>257764261
At least shitpost is vidya and not some retarded meme from Twitter.
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Can the greatest game of all time actually be overrated at the same time? An interesting question indeed.
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>>257762557
Okami
God Hand
Super Mario Galaxy
MGS3
Oot
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>>257765316
are you fucking retarded
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>>257777085

4 of those are interractive movies, and all of them are press X to win.

MGS3 and SM Samus have so much health I mashed X the entire game and beat them without a thought. Compare that to MGS1 Snake and Metroid Samus, who die like a bitch in very few hits, and you actually have to the minumum thought into your actions.

FFVI is literally just selecting "attack" on a menu, while Planescape is just watching your character fight for you.

Ironically, TLoU has more gameplay than any of these games.
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>>257777468
There is though. It means "people like something more than I do and that's bad". Conversely, underrated means "why don't people like this as much as I do?".
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>no darksouls
>No MGR
>no Mario 64
swing and a miss OP
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>>257777721

>Super Fucking Metroid

Superfags are so autistic being vocal about their shit game it's embarrassing
>>
these threads serve no purpose but to shit post and bait one another
you know its true
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Halo
Half-Life 2
Metal Gear Solid
The Last of Us
Some Zelda game (Ocarina of Time probably)
... Terranigma
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>>257778026
gr8 b8
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>>257778279

Thank you, fellow anon
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>>257767114
It's bigger and with more things to do, but the quality of those things has been declining after Morrowind, as has exploration, which is almost nonexistent as you're forced to follow a quest arrow if you want to find whatever it is you're looking for.
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Why is Plan escape Torment up there?
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>>257762557
b8 aside, it's impressive how Dude Sex managed to predict the future so correctly.

Who will be the Bob Page of our universe? Gates?
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>>257778979

http://www.rpgcodex.net/content.php?id=9453
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Why is a visual novel up there?
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>>257779573
Its a good game though
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>>257779781

It's not a good game since the gameplay is almost non-existent, but it is a good visual novel.
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>>257762557
nice thread faggot
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>Deus Ex
>Overrated
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>>257780126
>nonexistent
What?
It wasn't perfect but I was there. Did you even play the game?
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>>257780606
*it
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>>257766846
>implying there is anything wrong with praising IX

You get the fuck out of here kid and get ready for your first day at college.
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>>257766846
>praising IX

Since when? Every time I've seen people try to start a thread on it, it gets shit on by people that liked 8. Which is either a lot of people that are very good at making it not look like samefagging.
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>>257780135

Y-you too
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This thread is full of anons who can't decide if all these games are overrated in /v/, or overrated among the masses.
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>Deus Ex
>Planetscape Torment
Overrated
lolno
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>>257762557

Wasn't godhand in there?

Fuck you, /v/, for suggesting me to buy that.

What a piece of shit. I'm actually angry about wasting $5 this time.
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>>257782020
Woops
>Overrated
I forgot to add dat meme arrow.
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>>257781839
Some are only overrated on /v/. Such as Super Metroid. While others such as MGS3 are overrated everywhere.
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>>257782041
Why didn't you like it?
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>>257782041
It's funny that /v/ generally hates Godhand now, while even IGN reversed their negative opinion on it.
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>>257762557

I can't speak for many of these.

Super Metroid was trash. Controls were shit on gamecube controller and classic controller pro. Other aspects were impressive but that shit wasn't fun in the slightest. It had absolutely nothing t compel me to play further.

Friend of mine says that Plancscape has terrible gameplay, purely anecdotal.
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>>257776956
>IGN voted FFVI the greatest RPG ever. Not just JRPG

That's the shittiest opinion I've ever seen.

FFVI is a buggy pile of shit, entire stats don't even work and no beta tester (if the game was tested at all) noticed a thing.
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>>257782241
>Some are only overrated on /v/. Such as Super Metroid

Never played it so can't comment on it.

But honestly calling games like Torment and Deus Ex overrated is only meaningful if we're talking about /v/.
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deus ex and planescape are the textbook example of overrated, they would be the first examples I would choose if I were trying to define the word to /v/

they both fit the natural interests of self-proclaimed intellectuals, who are typically enamored with anything that appears profound or clever, but is in fact either 'barely above obvious' or 'clever ideas with no actual application'

no one can deny that the not-quite-intellectuals enjoy the notion of approving of the right things, and being in the right circles

but anyone can easily demonstrate that these games have no wide-scale notoriety or impact

in the absence of any way to measure something's quality, we can only measure it's impact. These games accomplished nothing and changed nothing
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>>257782349
>It's funny that /v/ generally hates Godhand now, while even IGN reversed their negative opinion on it.

Well you actually provided the reason why /v/ hates it now whether you knew it or not. /v/ hates anything that starts getting acceptance or liked by the mainstream such as places like IGN. What a bunch of fags some of you are on /v/.
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>>257782849

The other three are rehashes of previous titles in their franchises, so they also changed nothing.
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>>257763568
Those games are overrated on /v/ but not really irl
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>>257783274

yes ff6 was a rehash, which means that the first few in that series, particularly 4, deserve most of the praise that the series gets. very subjective and 4 (probably) wasn't the best

super metroid wasn't a rehash, you're just incorrect on that one and will see that if you look into it more carefully, I don't want to give you a wall of text

metal gear I've only played on the NES, they certainly SEEM like rehashes, but thats probably because I know nothing about them
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>>257782343

First impressions were a bit jarring visually. I can understand bad textures but everything was so blurry to point of being obscuring. Gameplay was tricky but was rewarding, when I wasn't having my ass kicked. The main problem was that the controls felt like they were missing an entire dimension, despite spending time learning it it never felt natural. The music didn't feel CUH-RAZEE and exciting just annoying and repetitive, especially when you spend so much time in one area. Progress was tracked in an absurd way and absolutely hindered progression. I felt exhausted by the time I reached the first cutscene and dropped the game entirely by the third. It was just after the cast of antagonists was revealed.
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>hey guys these games are pretty good but guess what I think they are slightly less good than other people believe them to be
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>>257762557
You're missing this one.
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>>257782634
That's where shit get's a little fuzzy though. Sure many on /v/ might love or even overrate Super. I still can't consider it overrated imo because it's literally only /v/ that praises it as much as they do. Same as Planescape. I doubt many even know wtf Planescape is. I never even knew or heard of it until I started browsing /v/ and seeing how much they loved it.

Games like MGS3 and FFVI are quite obviously overrated all over and sometimes especially on /v/. Which is if we are only talking about /v/ I feel it needs to be really well thought out on which games are overrated. We all obviously know that CoD is overrated but it's of no use putting that there since /v/ rarely even discusses CoD.

To me any game that is overrated everywhere and even on /v/ has to be put on the list period. For games only overrated on /v/ it has to be taken into account how bad the game may be. Some anon here claimed to hate God Hand but I thought it was good for what it was. I would hardly call it overrated. Let me stop before I get too tldr on my self.
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>>257782849
But Deus Ex had superb gameplay for an RPG, its a great example of what RPGs should try to do. It had both actual quality and made an impact on the RPG genre
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>>257782349
>>257782997

Interesting note on that. I played it years ago in the heyday of it's popularity here. Wasn't even aware that IGN developed a more positive opinion of it.
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> no MGS1
> no Final Fantasy VII
> no Ocarina of Time
> no Diablo 2
> no Persona 4
> no Bioshock Infinite
> no Gone Homo
> no TLOU
You didn't get a single one right.
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>>257783709
>super metroid wasn't a rehash

Before Super Metroid there was a game called Metroid that was basically the same shit, only not as pathetically easy.
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>>257762557
>all this console war faggotry
>Let's call games a lot of people liked shit because a lot of people liked them

Never change, /v/
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>>257784059

Persona 4 isn't overrated it's just not for all audiences.

The number one complaint people, who dislke the game entirely, have is with its aesthetic.
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The Witcher 2.

No seriously it is up there with Skyrim as most overrated shit ever.

The combat is easy as fuck and is basically Bamham. The story is rather weak and does politics like shit (A game that does politics well is VTMB). Oh and there is little to no actual roleplaying outside of me being stuck as Geralt. Can I create a character that specializes in Stealth and Charisma? NOOOPE, I'm stuck with pre-built character with limited choices....might as well be a fucking JRPG.
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>>257763152
Made best belmont even better
>Whipdash
>sliding skyward and backflipping off enemies
>SHORYUKEN

Fucking love special moves man.
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>>257783893

I have a confession, when I first played deus ex, all I could see was quake with bad level design, bad enemies, and very, very bad lighting

sure I went back later and forced myself past my biases, but really it came out at a time when deathmatch was becoming commonplace, I have no idea how the game succeeded at all

like I don't know who looked at it and paid money for it

the world is filled with all types of people I guess
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>>257783974
>Wasn't even aware that IGN developed a more positive opinion of it.

As they should have imo. It's obviously never going to make a top ten official greatest games ever list and that is okay. The game was what it was and was good for it. To me it was a really good beat em up action game with a terrible on purpose story that was decently funny. Whoever that fag was on IGN should have never been allowed to review the game. A 3.0 implies the game was completely broken by modern review standards and that is just plain false.
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>>257762557
I never saw so much bait.
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>>257783814
Nocturne is fucking great, you bitch.
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>>257784756
IGN would later go on to hand the Double Dragon Neon review to a guy that hates beat em' ups, which is, regardless of your opinion on Neon, pretty fucked.
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>>257784934
Every numbered game(and many spin-offs) except 1 were better imo
AFAIK Nocturne wasn't even well received in Japan, most of the love it gets is because of it being the first proper SMT on the west.
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>>257762557
>Super Metroid
>Deus Ex
>FFVI
>Overrated
Le epic bait thread xDDD
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>>257784371
Persona 4 is overrated to the point that the media diss the main SMT series in favor of it, it's gotten four spin-offs, two horrible anime adaptations that people are happily eating up and an enhanced port with a few extras that people regard as the holy grail of the Vita. It should be no exaggeration that P4 is going to be the reference base for all future Persona games.

It's honestly good game, but far from worth all that shit.
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>>257785293
>AFAIK Nocturne wasn't even well received in Japan
Does that have anything to do with how barebones the original release was? A lot of the best content in Nocturne were additions to the Maniax version.
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>>257763541
>overhyped
>great fucking music for it's time
>the only rpg with that many music triggers, greatly augments atmosphere
>time travel changes the worlds
>chests opened in the past are gone in the future
>position based combat
>walk around while talking to people
>no tile based walking
>11! endings
>NG+
>freedom to do things in the order you like
>nice waifus, a frog dude and a robot

It was slightly shallow combat wise but it had a lot of innovative stuff. Saying it's a 6/10 is a bit much isn't it?
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>>257784941
>a guy that hates beat em' ups

This is a problem I feel with beat em ups in general. Many probably don't understand the genre which I can somewhat understand. The genre is meant to shall I say, be very repetitive and very one dimensional. It's probably a love or hate it type of genre with very little in between. Haven't played DDN but I am sure it was a decent game.
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>>257785554
>Does that have anything to do with how barebones the original release was?
Most likely. Being so different from the previous games probably didn't help either.
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>>257782997
>/v/ hates anything that starts getting acceptance or liked by the mainstream such as places like IGN. What a bunch of fags some of you are on /v/.
Are you fucking kidding me?

Here, let me break it down for you. This thread is shit anyways.

Current day /v/ has gotten so pathetic most of them only thrive on hating things (note I'm not even using games as a term, this board cross-posts so fucking hard /b/ has a better time staying on topic) that other people like. Period. That even comes down to games other people on /v/ liked. That is the whole purpose of this thread, to sit there and say
>OH YOU LIKED SUPER METROID!?
>I THOUGHT IT WAS SHIT AND I THINK YOU'RE SHIT FOR LIKING IT.

See, older users shat on things in an attempt to be funny. Newer users shit on things without actually trying to be funny, mostly to fit in. Since there's more of the newer users than older at this point, the more of the board boils down to shitting on games people like, regardless of who likes it. It could be mainstream. It could be critics. It could even be /v/ itself.

Rejoice though, those idiots not trying to be funny succeeded anyways. /v/ has hilariously become what it openly mocks so hard: a hipster paradise. So much of one that it's even got super hipsters who don't like the games the hipsters like.
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>>257765904
metroid 3 got a lot of praise for it's colors, which are shit. They don't contrast very well and many areas are just 1 color. Super boring.
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>shitting on Super Metroid
So it's come to this.
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>>257766846
>I-it's so overrated that it's actually underrated! It makes sense I p-promise!
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>>257786272

The entire game revolves around backtracking, people would notice it's shit sooner or later.

The day /v/ starts shitting on DKC2 is the day it's truly lost.
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>>257762557
Ocarina of time is absolutely the most overrated game of all. It has literally a cult of "us gamers huh" wannabe "geeks" behind it and people use the triforce symbol to nerdyxD all the fucking time. No game on that list gets even close and you're a massive fucking shitter with no taste at all if you think deus ex and planescape torment are overrated. Guess smartphone gaming is more to your tastes since reading more than one word per minute is too hard for your brain.
>>
I agree, Peace Walker>MGS3
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>>257762557
>mgs3
why? every one loves mgs2 like it was the second coming of christ
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>>257786624

It does make sense.

FFVII and OoT are cool to hate now.

> It has literally a cult of "us gamers huh" wannabe "geeks" behind it and people use the triforce symbol to nerdyxD

Wannabe geeks are better than dedicated permavirgins like Metroidfags.
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>>257786641

Damn son u mad
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>>257787059
Buttblasted projector detected.
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>>257786961
No, it doesn't make sense.

Why the fuck are you so vapid you need people to decide what to like and hate for you? Why do you define yourself by what other people hate or like?

Just like what you like, and hate what you hate. I see no point in this mentality whatsoever.
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>>257787207

Literally what. Stay mad at a 20 year old game I guess
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>>257786625
Litterally any good game revolves around backtracking
Otherwise it's linear garbage
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>>257786625
Rare's entire fugly pre-rendered saga is pretty overrated actually.
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I think the most overrated game was GoldenEye. While I was having a blast with CTF, TeamFortress, and other mods in OpenGL QuakeWorld, guys were telling me how great their split-screen shooter was, and fashioning visual obstruction devices so they could have a quarter of an SD television all to themselves without their bro knowing where they are.

I am hardly a 'master race' elitist, having sat out PCs during the PS360 generation until last year. But goddamn that was the worst.
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>>257787404
>waaaaa stop bullying my favorite game and my shitposting waaaaa

QQ more.
>>
>people actually believe that linear or non-linear level design is inherently bad
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>this thread
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>>257787424
>Litterally any good game revolves around backtracking

No, only shit games revolve around backtracking.

Mario, Classic Sonic, DKC, Mega Man, Classicvania, etc. don't.

Metroid is shit
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>>257787698
Nice list of linear shit
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>>257786960
Do you honestly actually browse /v/ or is this your first time here? I remember one time refreshing /v/ to see 5 MGS3 threads on the catalog. 3 of them used the same fucking boxart of MGS3 for their thread. None of them were hate threads. MGS3 is currently /v/'s most overrated game.
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The only correct answer.
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>>257787612

>hating hipstershit is hipster

It would be fedora tipping if OoT, FFVII or TLoU were there instead.
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>>257787536
>I hate splitscreen gaming
>therefore goldeneye is overrated

I can't believe you have the age required for this board. I call the mods
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>>257787821

Mario literally saved gaming, Metroid is just irrelevant waifushit
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>>257787902
>hipstershit

Epic revisionism m8
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>>257787902
None of the games in OP are hipster. You could make an argument for Planescape if you're a faggot, but all the others are entries in notable franchises that have all had recent entries.
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>>257788238
Ebin bait. Is there an active shita thread right now or something? You know I will find it anyway
No need to answer. I quit this shitty thread
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>>257785491

It's not media favoritism, its sales, business. C'mon man.
>>
>>257788557

FFVI is hipster compared to FFVII
Planescape is hipster compared to Skyrim
Super Metroid is hipster compared to Prime
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>>257788732
>FFVI is hipster compared to FFVII
Both good entries in a popular series. Preference isn't hipster.

>Planescape is hipster compared to Skyrim
Not even remotely related.

>Super Metroid is hipster compared to Prime
Both are commonly considered to be best in the series.
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We'll never agree on which Final Fantasy is the best or worst or most hipsterish.
Luckily, we're all sane enough here to admit Galuf vs Exdeath was the high point of the series as a whole though, right?
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>>257789482

Most definitely
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>>257789482
>sword
>not saving your friends from an evil tree wizard with your fists
>>
I will continue to post this every time I see this thread, if I remember, if I feel like putting in the effort.
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>>257789694
B-But Doom 3 was gud....
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>>257789482
>That part where they try to revive him
Probably the first feel I even got from a video game.

But yes. Job system best system
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>>257789919
Holy fucking trinity. What part of this are you not getting?
>>
Someone else did the overrated games list, I just slapped Richter and Jesus.

Is no one going to comment on that?

pls respond
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>>257789694
Iji is such shit. It is so goddamn baffling to me when people recommend this turd among other freeware greats. It has some of the most incompetent controls I've ever experienced. Not only are the default inputs totally moronic but there is absolutely zero reconfiguration or controller support.
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>>257762557
>all this console war faggotry
>so here the games you guys like
>FUCK THEN
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>>257768803
>>257762557
>>
dark souls, uncharted 2, tlou
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>>257790259
Here have a pity response.
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