The Legend of Korra (LoK & AtLA) Thread: Azula Did Nothing

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Was tempted to make a new thread that's not Tyzula but meh

>>2332119
You deserve to get shot for almost being extremely petty

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So we're using this dummy's thread? All right.

>>>2328442
>She don't need no Avatar.

I wonder if she plans on bringing in millions of NWT economic migrants to the FN despite the NWT's attitudes to women?

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>>2332119
Sweet blog, if I subscribe will you kill yourself?

>>2332119
I'm starting the next one with MaiZula just to piss everyone off.

And because it makes way more sense than TyZula.

>>2332304
>makes more sense
The Beach ep made is rather clear that Tyzula was the beta couple to Maiko.

>>2332304
MaiZula is quite a spicy pairing. I don't think it would piss people off.

That spoiler on the other hand...

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>>2332127
Thank you Jesus

>>2332255
Congrats for a post that was gayer than this board :^)

>>2332225
If wanted any Water Tribe migrants at all, she should bring them from the nearly annihilated South Pole.

That ass-backwards fishing village from Book 3 could use a handful.

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>>2332516
>"But I like running my fishstand..."
>"No, no, you must come to the Fire Nation! Our welfare plan will take care of you for life!"

>>2332308
>>2332347
>Azula did everything possible to break up Zuko and Mai's alone time
>started seriously picking on Zuko after he and Mai got closer as kids
>let Mai get away with murder compared to Ty Lee

I dunno, man.

>>2332131
A thread is a thread. No reason not to use it.

>>2332946
Tylee and Mai should just share Azula. Azula needs all the love she can get.

>>2333000
>implying some degenerate three-headed relationship wouldn't drive Azula into even more insane waters

Never overdose on Tumblr, anon.

>>2332946
>let Mai get away with murder compared to Ty Lee
Are you kidding me? You got that backwards my friend.

occasional browser here, what exactly has happened with the comic that was suppose to come out about Korra(or rather Asami/Korra)?

>>2332946
Azula only spared Mai because Ty Lee threw herself into the same metaphorical boat.

>>2333056
coming soonish. We've gotten a few teaser pages and some shit has also gotten leaked.

>>2333056
Check the old thread.

>>2332015
>W-we have some good times, right?
not much to show for two and a half years

>>2333056
The comic hasn't been put up for digital download nor physical purchase.

But the "leaked" pages seem to suggest that they are taking huge liberties with the sordid relationship Korra and Asami had back in the first two seasons and saying the seeds were already planted since then for a romance.

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>>2333056
It has been pushed back to June.

>>2333072
>>2333058
3 years, and a simple comic isn't being done yet? What are they doing?

>saying the seeds were already planted since then for a romance.
well that's...pretty fucking dumb. It would prove all the haters right. What is wrong with a romantic relationship being developed out of a friendship?

>>2333076
Wouldn't that be what happens? Remember to burgerclaps everyone's a friend as soon as they learn names.

>>2333079
>Wouldn't that be what happens?
seeds for romance is different from friendship. After all otherwise all friendships would count as "They might fuck in the future" which obviously isn't true.

>Remember to burgerclaps everyone's a friend as soon as they learn names.
i have no idea what you just said

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>>2333072
Uh, no. There's no retconning of Korra and Asami's early friendship to include romance at all. If anything it reinforces the friendship aspect of their relationship first when Korra basically says she was happy to find a kindred spirit in Asami. Asami reinforces their "friendship first" relationship again by explicitly revealing she realized her romantic feelings during Korra's 3 year absence, not before.

Bryke may make some stupid and questionable moves, but they said that Korrasami was an endgame ship that grew organically throughout the series - as self-congratulatory as they can get, they're not about to forget one of their key talking points when it comes to Korrasami.

ps: shining a new perspective on past events to support current ones is not a "huge liberty." Korra saying "I had a crush on you the minute I saw you" is playing fast and loose with canon. Korra saying "I found a kindred spirit in you after you revealed an unexpected aspect of yourself" fits perfectly in line with canon.

>>2333107
>i have no idea what you just said
I think there talking about how Americans view relationships. As they do have very different expectations.

>>2333113
This right here. It just reinforced what we suspected: that Asami was smitten by the time of Book 4 and that the look she had on her face when saying that she's looking forward to seeing Korra again was exactly what we thought.
Saying that Korra found a kindred spirit didn't retcon anything either since we never saw them fighting after the race. Of course they also didn't have time to hang out until Book 3 since Korra was with Mako and Asami was too busy salvaging Future Industries.

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>>2333079
>Remember to burgerclaps everyone's a friend as soon as they learn names.
A comma or two goes a long way, sis

>>2333210
I think the biggest issue is the misspelling of 'reminder'.

Are we ignoring
the big orange elephant in the room?

The comics will review some aspects of the KorrAsami relationship, but the main focus will be this totally not DJT real estate mogul who wants to turn the SW into Disneyland.

I hope the three year hiatus gave 'em plenty of time to get the plot right, or else...

>>2333072
Adding to what >>2333113 said, Korra and Asami did connect really well in the race scene, there's no retcon in that. Korra was ecstatic, and Asami enjoyed Korra's presence to the point of almost looking like she was flirting, probably the result of wanting to write the character bold for her first episode as a main character. They didn't get much beyond that because of their shared interest on Mako, for which never blamed each other, by the way, and as soon as the Mako issue was resolved Season 3 happened. They always got along well

They are not suggesting that they had romantic feeling in S1, just that they connected really well.

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>>2332304
>spoiler

Honestly, on rewatch, Mai is a far more important (and better) character than I thought. She's arguably the core of the three.

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>>2333076
>3 years, and a simple comic isn't being done yet? What are they doing?

It's Nickolodeon and Bryke. It's like a nexus of faffing about.

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>>2333113
>Bryke may make some stupid and questionable moves
Oh boy, do they.

>as self-congratulatory as they can get
In fairness to Mike, that was mostly Bryan.

>they're not about to forget one of their key talking points when it comes to Korrasami.
Exactomundo.

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>>2333295
>They are not suggesting that they had romantic feeling in S1, just that they connected really well.

The only one that suggested Asami "fell" (exact term) for Korra there was Seychelle Gabriel. And as much as I like her, she is a) kind of a bimbo and b) a fucking 90's kid.
"Falling for" someone can also be a little more ambiguous than outright raabu. Sure, it could mean "I wanna rub my nose on your clit", but it could also mean "I think you're really cool."

>>2333628
Well she is the reasonable one, and a very good consort.

>>2333632
>I wanna rub my nose on your clit
Isn't that just how FN girls say hello?

>>2333147
they're not wrong. i refer to almost everyone as a friend, but there's different tiers.

>friend
>buddy
>bro
>bestie

why are we burgerclaps now instead of just burgers tho?

>>2333107
>seeds for romance is different from friendship

sometimes the seed grows into a friendplant, sometimes the seed grows into a fuckbuddy plant, sometimes the seed grows into a romanceplant.

>>2333710
that would be seeds of "relationships" then(i.e. they can turn into anything), not seeds of "romance"

>>2333777
>seeds of "relationships"
So literally anything that involves two people. Okay.

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>>2332946
Wrong board to say it, but I don't think it was Zuko of whom Azula was jealous.

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>>2333696
Oh FFS, Azula.

>>2333797
Then don't say you idiot.

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>>2333807
Oh, come now. FN incest needn't be icky.

>>2333054
Ty Lee was scared shitless of Azula and always followed orders like a little slave. Mai was practically treated like Azula's equal.

>>2333885
That has more to do with both Mai's status and usefulness, as she was crucial for manipulating Zuko.

As for Ty Lee. Yes, she is indeed scared of her, and willing to do just about anything to remain on her good side. She is also the only person who can say no to her(that one example withheld, as just because she can does not mean she's always successful) and Azula not only lets it happen, she tries to remain in Ty Lee's good graces as well.

Now weather that is because she knows of Azula's fondness for her or she really doesn't think sometimes, I don't know. As her characterisation is all over the place. Thanks Yang. So I can't say it's because she ever did like her or if it was game where one tried to out manipulate the other, as Yang is clearly implying that she was simply ceding the beast, but that only makes their one interaction post-war even less sense... but I digress.

The difference here regardless of what Mai or Ty Lee think, is Azula. As she clearly has a soft spot for her. Not Mai. Ironically Mai would be too easy. She's not after sex, she wants love.

>>2333272
For as plot driven as Legend of Korra was, it never cared to make the plot work.

The writers must have realized this as it is artificially making up a plot to keep the characters all together so as to bring focus to the yuri relationship.

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>>2333981
>The writers must have realized this as it is artificially making up a plot to keep the characters all together
After s1, I remember thinking that Asami should never want to see any of these people again for the rest of her life.

>>2334029
For normal, well adjusted people, yeah. But Asami latches on to people almost desperately, easily evidence by her irrational, immediate attachment to Mako. It's her damage. Unfortunately for her, it's something that ends up hurting her in the end, as opposed to say, Mako's damage, which makes him a self-absorbed asshole who hurts others.

Let's face it, nobody in LoK is really "well-adjusted." A lot of them get by fine, but none of them are paragons of mental/emotional health or stability. Well, not until the end of the series, anyways.

>>2334040
At least she has a reason for sticking around. Unlike the brothers...

>>2334053
Why did you slap an ellipsis on the end if that was everything you planned on saying?

>>2334058
Because I hate emoticons more and I used it as an aside. You know, because, we all know why.

>>2333632
Why do you say that she's a bimbo?

>>2333865
The question here is is Ursa really fucking Azula or is this just Azula masturbating while hallucinating Ursa?

>>2334121
Could be hallucination based on experienced or prophetic hallucination.

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>>2333965
IIRC, Mai was Azula's main audience (besides the enemy) for most of Azula's jokes and cleverness.

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>>2302896
>Not necessarily. There are a lot of "industry rules" which keep people from badmouthing their bosses or revealing certain behind-the-scenes decisions.
I think it's very clear Bryke found themselves in this situation. FFS, look at how badly they were treated in Book Four (episode worth of funding pulled at the last minute). And don't forget the "LoK only available on TV!" that became "LoK only available online!" because their incompetent asses let half of season three leak.

>considering how shabbily they treated LoK throughout most of it's duration and the ease of which Bryke turned on Makorra post Book 1...well it's not such a hard thing to imagine.
I imagine a scenario where Bryke convinced themselves they could make Mako work, and dove in headfirst, because they had no other choice, thanks to studio mandates. Then, they only made things worse by desperately trying to convince the audience that Mako was important (and it worked, considering how many imbeciles called him the deuteragonist). All that forcing Mako down the audience's throat only turned off the majority of viewers.

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>>2333981
Your CONCERN is noted.

Yes, the entire series was artificially designed and forced in such a manner as to ensure the yuri end. Which they weren't even sure they would be allowed to do until very late in the game.

The only times the plot bent over backwards was to ensure Precious and Everybody's Favourite were onscreen.

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>>2324845
>>2325061
>I cannot contain my tears of joy. What a beauty this is. Being there as it unraveled and proceeded to meme jump into every possible fandom with even the most subtextual gay girl ship was one of the most fucking entertaining things I have ever seen.

That was one of the best post-finale happenings, hands down. It wasn't just tumblr; fans from all corners of the internet joined together in awe at the majesty of the Avatar of Mental Gymnastics:
>lesbians, but one wears lipstick: straight
>a guy and a tomboy: "queer"

Just glorious.

>>2334527
Pretty sure that's more how Korra is going to speak for the spirits against the tycoon who wants to build Disneyland on and around the new portal despite the fact that Korra said she wasn't going to do that anymore back in season 2's finale. When she should really be in what was the Earth Kingdom helping the transition. Unless she isn't going to do that like how she apparently didn't do anything once she kicked Amon out a window and everyone else changed the government for the United Republic.

It's artificially designed to keep the Krew around, most especially the brothers.

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I relabeled one of the sections of the pastebin. Please let me know if I should change anything because I'm new to making /t/'rents

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>>2334724
Magnet works just fine, Hetynne. I already had eps 1-9 downloaded, but this saves me going back and getting the rest.

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>>2334953
Should I add the blooper episodes and extras? Those are pretty fun.

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>>2334956
I'd say it's fine as is. Just leave a link to PVB's vimeo page if there isn't one: https://vimeo.com/user26785108/videos

>>2326342
>>2332119
Why is there a week long gap before the first reply?

>>2335271
Because some moron made this one before the old thread even hit page 10.

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>>2335191
>whoops :)) also their tumblr page and vimeo channel is just above that magnet link, which I just now updated.

I segregated the videos into different folders in order of descending importance. Wish I could update /t/ batches instead of replacing them.

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>>2335304
>image

Don't forget the platonic scissoring!

>>2334053
>At least she has a reason for sticking around.
Which she didn't follow through on.

She could have asked Korra to vouch for Future Industries that they want to be helping the good guys. You know, have the Avatar make it public that Future Industries is under new management where said new management was instrumental in repelling the terrorists.

>>2335380
It's very annoying how easily Asami could have had more screen time, and relevant screen time at that, but nope, we have to make room for everybody's favorite brothers.

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>https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11910308/1/Azula-s-Search

If you liked the original series, this makes a better sequel than the ATLAB comics are.
Centers around Azula, Mai, Ty lee and Suki searching for Azula's mother.

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>>2335626

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>>2335389
That's what frustrates me more about LoK than AtLA. Its flaws are easier to fix. Season One could have been so much better with some minor tweaks.
Meanwhile, something like the universally loved second season of AtLA has the absolutely bullshit scene where the Dai Li, apropos of nothing, lose faith in and turn on the guy they just staged a coup for because a fourteen year old was smug at them. But it's necessary for the story as whole to continue.
Even the reviled season two of LoK has scenes that could have been drastically improved with a tweak. Rather than have the Avatar and co fail against two dozen average NWT benders for no reason other than giving Bumi something to do, forget about goddamn Bumi, have the Avatar destroy the NWT forces, but have Unalaq escape into the portal before she can capture him. I got so sick of Korra being booked to lose just to push other far less important characters, Jinora being paramount among them.

>>2335380
>She could have asked Korra to vouch for Future Industries that they want to be helping the good guys. You know, have the Avatar make it public that Future Industries is under new management where said new management was instrumental in repelling the terrorists.
That was very likely even something brought up in the background show notes for the timeskip. But who cares about that when we get to see Officer Mako being cool and dreamy. What a guy! What? There was never any indication that he would have wanted to join law enforcement or be a detective? He figured out that super secret code on the flyers that thousands of other people figured out too! That's why he's one of the best!

>>2335632
LoK needed more than minor tweaks. Its plots fall apart completely, and the only characters who benefit from them are Tenzin and Korra.

AtLA, for how you describe season 2, just needed a minor tweak.
Have the Dai Li show trepidation and anxiety over the war. They've been keeping it out but they know they can't hold out forever. Azula offers them a way to "win" if they serve her. So have scenes where the Dai Li converse among themselves about the state of the world and their bastion.

Amon doesn't work with the setting as it is since they're trying to make it X-men which the Avatarverse is not. And season 2 does not benefit in any way with the inclusion of the history of the first Avatar as that lumps in more baggage to the series.

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>>2335711
>LoK needed more than minor tweaks. Its plots fall apart completely.
No. B1 worked; it was just executed poorly. B2 needed to be massively streamlined. B3 & B4 work.

>and the only characters who benefit from them are Tenzin and Korra
Birdhorseshit. The first half of the entire series warps and contorts to fuck over Korra to push other characters. The pre-finale major conflict of the final season fucks overs Korra.
Tenzin's arc in book two is one of the only successful parts of that season. It's the only part that's tight. His story in season three also fits perfectly with what's going on.

The problem LoK had was that it didn't prioritise Korra and Tenzin often enough. Only one true season each.

>Have the Dai Li show trepidation and anxiety over the war. Azula offers them a way to "win" if they serve her.
You'd have to change the motivation of the Dai Li, and it also hamstrings Long Feng, the antagonist of the whole Ba Sing Se arc. The facts that's exactly what happens is the problem, so all you'd be doing is moving it to an earlier point where it would only hurt the end of season two sooner.

>Amon doesn't work with the setting as it is since they're trying to make it X-men
X-Men didn't invent allegories for oppressed classes. Also, as it's a fictional universe, and we never got a good look at life in RC for a normal person, we honestly have no idea who is in the right.
Season one spent twelve episodes in one city, and we knew less about it in the end than we did Zaofu after one episode.

>season 2 does not benefit in any way with the inclusion of the history of the first Avatar as that lumps in more baggage to the series.
That's not Tenzin's story though. Yes, Korra getting convenient amnesia was a hamfisted means of showing us Wan. But they felt it was important that Wan be introduced so as to show us what was being left behind with the resetting of the cycle.

>>2335632
Well the Dai Li already knew the war was lost. They just wanted to live the high life as they thought themselves safe behind the walls, probably assuming they'd broker some sort of surrender.

All they needed was a scene of Azula using that sharp silver tongue of hers to convince them that whatever 'fun' they may have now, especially at her expense, is meaningless. For the peace is broken. It was inevitable now, and soon. As her presence highlights.

It's not as though they can hold her for ransom. Like her Farther would stop the war just for her, and whatever bargaining chip she may be, come invasion, would never secure their lifestyle let alone their lives. So why not secure the high life by joining the winning side?

Unlike Long Feng, she can guaranty it. To which she gives her original speech, as it is more than adequate to putting him in his place.

>>2335404
I've never been able to get into that fic. Pretty much because I can't really stand the liberties the author takes with Ty Lee's backstory.

>>2335842
I don't read it make it a habit of never reading an AtlA fic that deoesn't end in Tyzula.

>>2335884
>deoesn't end in Tyzula.
but it DOES senpai

>>2335632
>Meanwhile, something like the universally loved second season of AtLA has the absolutely bullshit scene where the Dai Li, apropos of nothing, lose faith in and turn on the guy they just staged a coup for because a fourteen year old was smug at them.

Some fanfics retcon that in favor of a mind control tale, but that's a separate issue.

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>>2336008

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>>2336008
>>2336009
I was so disappointed that all Asami got in later seasons was a different shock glove instead of power armor or a mech to let her be more than transportation in the big battles.

>>2336047
But she loves giving Korra free rides.

Instincts of a fearful body finally updated again.

http://archiveofourown.org/works/4658958/chapters/24232302

>>2335958
Growing distance between them sounds like they are about to break up.

>>2335958
>>2336306
So does it have Tyzula or not? I thought the synopsis was interesting but I wasn't interested in an Azula story without Tyzula.

>>2336047
She can only modify her gifts from daddy.

>>2336384
She created the wing suits and the hummingbird mech. She's clearly got the inventor chops, but Bryke crammed it in off-screen/last-minute. Alas, these are the things that happen when you've got screen time black holes in the "fabulous bending brothers."

...I also like to credit Asami with designing the Korra statue, but that has less to do with her being an "inventor" and more being thirsty as hell.

>>2335728
>The problem LoK had was that it didn't prioritise Korra and Tenzin often enough.
It did, but in many wrong ways.
Korra's story against the idea of Amon works well with how she puts so much stock into her title as Avatar instead of herself as a person. But Amon and the Equalists don't make sense in the setting and they try to make a failed attempt at oppressed classes through them.

And showing us what was being left behind with the resetting of the cycle didn't end up doing anything except making people angry at Korra instead of the person who actually went out of his way to eliminate the cycle. Since Korra never relied on the wisdom or abilities of the past lives nor converse with them, their severance is strictly for the audience and not the characters in the story.

>>2335728
>You'd have to change the motivation of the Dai Li, and it also hamstrings Long Feng, the antagonist of the whole Ba Sing Se arc. The facts that's exactly what happens is the problem, so all you'd be doing is moving it to an earlier point where it would only hurt the end of season two sooner.
What >>2335764 said. You can easily modify that and it works.

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>>2336661
>Since Korra never relied on the wisdom or abilities of the past lives nor converse with them, their severance is strictly for the audience and not the characters in the story.

A point many people miss. She tries once at the beginning of season three, but even then, felt half-hearted on her part, and more just to confirm to the audience that they were gone.

>>2336313
Basically, it's a Azula redemption story.
The Tyzula is there, but not the main focus.
Regardless, it's a good read.

>>2337195
I still can't get past the changes to Ty Lee's backstory.

>>2336463
>but that has less to do with her being an "inventor" and more being thirsty as hell.
You know the confirmation of Asami realizing she had romantic feelings for Korra in those 3 years is more than likely confirming this too.

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>>2337269
I hope Asami didn't sneak out at night to schlick to the big Korra statue while hidden in bush in the park.

>>2337335
Statue Korra's bush or something else?

>>2337336
A shrubbery.

>>2337339
One that looks nice and isn't too expensive, right?

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>>2336463
>...I also like to credit Asami with designing the Korra statue
Yeah, it's just a fan theory, but 99% of the fanbase seems to accept it.

>but that has less to do with her being an "inventor" and more being thirsty as hell.
Very much so. I think Capitalism-anon nailed it in Between The Wheels when one of the earthbenders erecting the statue raises a suspicious eyebrow at Asami's dedication to accuracy.

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>>2337346
Of course she contracted Roger the Shrubber, who did not do his work in that park in order to hide lonely lewdness.

>>2337389
I hope she got it for a good price. It's hard to agree upon a good estimate and then price for it in the economic climate of the URN

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>>2337389
>Sami

>>2337384
>Between The Wheels
Oh man, what happened to that?
Capitalism-anon drink herself to death?

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>>2337391
They are still rebuilding Republic City after s3 since spirit vines are everywhere, so it is like there is a pestilence upon the land. Nothing is sacred. Even those who arrange and design shrubberies are under considerable economic stress at that period in history.

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I kind of miss the rabid, hopeful, obviously doomed shipping of Book Three.

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>>2337516
>only canonically lesbian pairing in entire frnachise
>why does so much yuri fanfic revolve around this ship?! REEEEEE

>>2337532
I think their complaint is that it's always the same story.

>>2337516
>linking TomPreston
And your words are further invalidated.

>>2337537
>I think their complaint is that it's always the same story.
I've read the fanfiction. It's not always the same story.
BUT, it is always a mess. Korra acts like she's neutered, back in season 1, can't hold a relationship with another human being, or some combination of the aforementioned. Asami kind of exists as a way for the reader to tsk tsk at Korra when Korra acts ups.

Fanart is okay I guess. The surge was at the end and then it fizzled out. I could do without so many "dork" Korra drawings or Asami getting the better of Korra in sparring or social gatherings.

>>2337389
>modern AU
>no one is a barista
>Korra is still the avatar

What kind of sorcery is this?

>>2337622
Are you sure it isn't just someone who couldn't envision a world without mobile phones?

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>>2337622
>no one is a barista
That's a very heavy supposition, I bet Asami just came home from the coffee house in that strip

I like this AU depiction for various reasons

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>>2337687

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>>2337688

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>>2337547
I bet at least 20% of all LoK fanfiction are Equalist Asami and Red Lotus Korra. That premise does nothing for me.

>>2337691
There's more Equalist Asami than Red Lotus Korra. Probably a hold over from season 1 way back when. The passable fics are one-shots because they don't stick around in a faulty premise and see themselves become terrible.

And good fics are abandoned.

>>2337686
>Korra
>a teacher
Those poor children.

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>>2337622
>modern AU
>Korra is still the Avatar

There has literally been ONE fic that has done this well. It's distressing.

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>>2337537
>I think their complaint is that it's always the same story.
tumblr isn't very imaginative.

>>2337547
>I could do without so many "dork" Korra drawings or Asami getting the better of Korra in sparring or social gatherings.
Yes, Korra is "demoted" (in tumblr's eyes) to the 'boy', while Asami is the perfect 'girl'. The irony of reducing a lesbian relationship to the very feudal lord and handmaiden they mocked seems lost on many of the fifteen year olds that populate the place.

>>2337645
>Are you sure it isn't just someone who couldn't envision a world without mobile phones?
I think you may have nailed it, sis.

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>>2337757
>Those poor children.

The only time she was ever shown instructing anybody, she was calm, supportive and effective.

>>2337778
Is it that one where she's raised to be a weapon by the White Lotus because the world is losing spirituality because it is modern?

And she still had time to suck Mako off because he was the one random police officer who approached her and chastised her for dealing with terrorists?

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>>2337796
>And she still had time to suck Mako off because he was the one random police officer who approached her and chastised her for dealing with terrorists?
It's a darker and edgier version, but it's still set around season one, so Mako is going through his peak "What a Guy!" phase, where the Avatar and the most powerful bloodbender that ever lived are both in awe of his majesty.

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>>2337444
>>Capitalism-anon drink herself to death?

Or went bankrupt.

>>2337842
>Or went bankrupt.
Should have invested in gold and silver. Or are those bendable metals in the eyes of the Avatarverse?

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>>2337844
>>Should have invested in gold and silver. Or are those bendable metals in the eyes of the Avatarverse?
You want some primo autistic overanalysis of the metals and bending thereof in the Avatarverse? Check this shit out:
http://lokgifsandmusings.tumblr.com/post/160705261613/serious-lok-meta
http://lokgifsandmusings.tumblr.com/post/160698646968/serious-lok-meta

Highlights:
>But literally every metal needs refinement so the point about it being “pure” was fucking idiotic to the point where we should dismiss it or maybe just pretend that Hiroshi was trying to keep his trade secrets closely guarded, while still making them intimidated.
>The other explanation is my atomic weight theory, in which I argue that certain atomic weights are beyond earth bender capacity. But wait! Mercury is a bendable, and it has a higher atomic weight than platinum, right? So how do atomic weights factor into all this?
>Kuvira can bend extremely purified metals– she can do iron ore, for example, and Bryke specified that she can bend all precious metals except platinum. That means purity has less to do with it. If an element is below a certain atomic mass, it is bendable. Once you cross that line, it isn’t. When Bryke talk about metal purity, I think they meant an alloy free of contaminant compounds. Still, if we go by atomic mass as the definitive limit on earthbending, and platinum’s atomic mass is too high to bend, then gold and mercury etc shouldn’t be bendables. So why are they?

>>2337846
>You want some primo autistic overanalysis of the metals and bending thereof in the Avatarverse? Check this shit out:
The poster has a point especially when the writers went out of their way to specify such a ridiculous thing. By bringing up a name this calls into question whether other people who can bend the impurities in the metal can do so for a variety of objects. Is that why no one choked out Kuvira by using the pauldrons on her outfit, because they are versed enough in metal like this random dancer who served as captain of the guard in a city that never ever had problems so she wouldn't be versed in combat?

They never call it mercury but it looks and acts like it.
They do call it platinum, but platinum is not free of contaminant compounds when you use it for things beyond it-looks-pretty and sounds like it makes a good video game or two.

Why not bronze? It's more viable given its properties and usage. Or stick with magical elemental/non-elemental kung fu.

>>2337846
Oh that neechan.

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>>2337844
>>Should have invested in gold and silver. Or are those bendable metals in the eyes of the Avatarverse?

Gold certainly is.

>>2337921
>implying that wasn't just gilded

>>2337846
>>2337857
Sometimes you have to just accept that the writers are morons.

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>>2337923
Are you suggesting that the Earth Kingdom royal line skimped on the materials of the venerated Kyoshi Medal?!

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>>2337930
Not morons; just not particularly well-versed in metallurgy... or physics in general... or politics... or geography...

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>>2336047
The hummingbird suits Hiroshi said saved them all? And did Hiroshi build train stations and highways?

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>>2337195
>Basically, it's a Azula redemption story.

I don't know how I feel about that...

>>2337937
Kuvira was choo choo chooing around the Earth Kingdom in a bullet train way before Asami cut the ribbon for the single train station in the city.
And the highways that had to accommodate useless freeloading spirits because someone thought something nice would happen despite having no evidence whatsoever?

I'll give the flying mech suits, though Varrick stole the scene when explaining them and Asami said nothing of import - again.

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>>2337948
>>Kuvira was choo choo chooing around the Earth Kingdom in a bullet train way before Asami cut the ribbon for the single train station in the city.
I never said Asami invented the tracks. That was established to be Varrick. But upgrading the railways and station of an entire metropolis is still impressive.

>And the highways that had to accommodate useless freeloading spirits
They accommodated the vines, which it seem will be a source of potentially limitless energy in future (Korra can spiritbend them to make them grow indefinitely).

>because someone thought something nice would happen despite having no evidence whatsoever?
I don't see how Korra having access to the script makes Asami's infrastructure project less impressive.

>though Varrick stole the scene when explaining them and Asami said nothing of import - again.
They made a point of showing that he interrupted what was supposed to be her presentation. It's very different from how she was treated in seasons two (and even three).

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>>2337937
>The hummingbird suits Hiroshi said saved them all
Hiroshi getting squashed lent drama, but it was still Asami opening the way for the benders to have their world-saving battles.

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>>2337967
It's strange that Bolin's ultimate contribution to defeating Kuvira was actually escorting Varrick back to the URN, so he could help Asami with production and be one of the pilots. Don't even get me started on Mako's "heroic" contribution or standing around while Korra, the airbenders and earthbenders fought the Colossus, and nearly pointlessly killing everyone when the Colossus was on lockdown and all the engineers were subdued.

>>2337933
I don't know... the Earth Queen seemed pretty spiteful. It's not like she could come back and give them a good licking anymore.

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>>2337974
>It's not like she could come back and give them a good licking anymore.

...s-sorry...

>>2337969
>and nearly pointlessly killing everyone when the Colossus was on lockdown and all the engineers were subdued.
Hey that's my shtick! I bring that up when people say Korra didn't do anything in the finale and say that freezing the mech allowed them to break in and having Kuvira break her control room apart while the sisters disabled the cannon did the job in the end.

But because Korra never managed to defeat a named opponent on her own no one gives Korra credit and says that Korra would have lost to Kuvira had Mako not, as you say, killed them all by shooting lightning at the core of all exploding vines.

>>2337976
You're only sorry she can't give you advise on how to give a good licking.

>>2337976
>...s-sorry...
You let your uncle win from beyond the grave by leaving the portals opened and let his hellspawn who do not care for their people keep the Northern throne despite your father being the rightful heir. You're not sorry about anything. Then again your go to phrase is "deal with it."

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>>2337980
What tales Kyoshi could have told...

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>>2337982
>Then again your go to phrase is "deal with it."

You mean the phrase she used once as a four year child and never said again?

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>>2337979
>But because Korra never managed to defeat a named opponent on her own

She did beat Kuvira, but Bryke were intent on hammering home Korra's development that it was via empathy and understanding that Korra made Kuvira truly submit. But really, it would have been more impactful/cathartic if they just let Korra trounce her inside the Colossus and THEN use empathy after she energybends the deathbeam.

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>Korsami somehow got to be canon
>the superior Korra/Kuvira died on the vine

IT'S NOT FAIR.

>>2338019
Counterpoint: Korvirasami
>kyoshi had a entire island of concubines, I think I can handle two wives

>>2338036
I just don't like Asami.

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>>2338037
>spoiler

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>>2338019
Kuvira's too self-obsessed to be a good waifu for Korra.

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>>2338120
>Kuvira nearly Asami's height
>not barely Korra's height

Oh FFS

Of course, Kuvira's a tall gal. But Korra's tiny, amirite?

>>2338072
Search your heart, you know that Korra and Kuvira have a better dynamic. Korra would get bored of Asami.

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>>2338129
>Search your heart, you know that Korra and Kuvira have a better dynamic. Korra would get bored of Asami.
Oh, heaven's no.

Korra would be initially intrigued by Kuvira (similar to how she was around Asami after the race-track), but would be put off by her hardheadedness and control freakery.

Whenever Bryke deign to allow Korra and Asami to fucking talk (rather than stand back and admire the fabulous bending brothers' antics), they get on like a house on fire.

>>2338135
Why do houses love fire so much? Why can't it be people?

We put so much effort into building these relationships, yet it always goes up in smoke.

Is that what happened with Asami's Mum? Was fire that much hotter than Hiroshi?

>>2338135
>they get on like a house on fire.
Chaotically, leaving naught but cinders and detritus unless a fireman puts them in their place?

>>2338163
>Is that what happened with Asami's Mum? Was fire that much hotter than Hiroshi?

Ask Mako. A. Firebender.

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>>2338173
Get off of /u/, Mako.

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>>2338174
I still think that would have been an amazing twist, especially if it would have come out when everyone was suspicious of Hiroshi and Asami in s1e7. It could have been something Lieutenant says to sway Asami. Finding his wife's killer could have been a side project that Hiroshi insisted on.

>>2337991
>filename
Korra's track record makes anything possible.

>But really, it would have been more impactful/cathartic
Never ever.

>>2338122
>But Korra's tiny, amirite?
She's taller than her mother and Pema and that's it in terms of women in her life.

Given Bryan and Mike's love of George Lucas poetry, it's a guarantee that the person who killed Mako's parents is going to be a thing for Mako to deal with in the comics should they be given the greenlight for more. It'll be the episode where Zuko takes Katara on a field trip all over again.

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>>2338183
It would have added even more gravitas to Asami's decision not to side with her father. And it would have factored into Asami's character in a meaningful way, unlike when Katara found her mother's killer and spared him because he was a loser, and then forgot about it forever.

But holy shit, if you think the fanbase disliked Mako in the original telling, here, they'd have had to write him out.

>>2338184
>Korra's track record makes anything possible.
She rarely ever lost a fight without bullshit external shenanigans. She gets surprised by heretofore unseen techniques and tech in season one, but each time, it's just that. A surprise. The next time she faces it, she wins.

Season two is nonsense.

Season three is literally all about the villains finding a way not to fight her fair.

Season four wouldn't be so egregious if not for the unearned pushing of Kuvira as some great threat when Bolin could probably beat her.

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>>2338188
>It'll be the episode where Zuko takes Katara on a field trip all over again.

You mean the "yaas queen" ep where Katara competes her journey good-natured child to utter fucking mary sue?

Sure, it served to get Katara to stop being a bitch to Zuko, but christ is that an overrated episode.

>>2337938

So many people want Azula in LoK but so few want her there as the old woman she would logically be instead of somehow still fourteen years old.

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>>2338189
>The next time she faces it, she wins.
Except she only beat blood bending by surprising everyone including herself with air bending.

>>2338189
>unlike when Katara found her mother's killer and spared him because he was a loser, and then forgot about it forever.
The comics missed a real opportunity when they didn't show Katara hunting that guy down again to arrest him for war crimes.

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>>2338193
That's crazy! I'd be fine with her being in her thirties!

>>2338195
I didn't mention Amon because his power was horseshit, and it was established that even Aang couldn't fight his less powerful father unless he was in the Avatar State.

Her spontaneously learning airbending to save precious Mako's career (so important, he chose it over Korra in fact!) was just the cherry on the shit sundae that was the decision making of season one.

>The comics missed a real opportunity when they didn't show Katara hunting that guy down again to arrest him for war crimes.
I was disappointed Zuko didn't track down that scarred girl and give her back her ostrich horse.

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>>2338199
Korra was getting owned by blood bending starting with Tarlock. I was hoping that they would do something with fighting Amon at range and from different angles, but whatever.

>>2338201
>>Korra was getting owned by blood bending starting with Tarlock.

Yeah. They established pretty early on that nothing but the Avatar State could resist it. You do understand that they made this psychic bloodbending shit just to make Korra the underdog, don't you?

>>2338193
>implying Korra leaving the portals open didn't allow Azula to somehow regain her full strength and youth
You know she was planing for it. You just know!

>>2338199
Amon did nothing wrong!

>>2338135
Okay, let me put it this way:

Season 1 Korra (Best Korra) would get along better with Kuvira than Asami.

Flanderized Korra (Worst Korra) would get along better with Asami.

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>>2338213
How about Azula somehow got dragged physically with Iroh to the Spirit World, never aged, and now with the portals open, can get back?

>>2338214
>Amon did nothing wrong!
Non water-resistant make-up, sis.

>>2338218
>>2338213
>mfw I started a fan fic like that years ago but never finished it
>Azula was going to take over the gangs of Republic City
>Spirit Mai was going to have to stop her
>end game would have been Maizula

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>>2338217
>even the slightest character development, no matter how well-seeded or earned is flanderisation
>no, I loved Korra honest!
>but don't you think they ruined her by having her grow and change over the course of four years and several traumatic events?
>shouldn't she have been exactly the sme and unchanged by her experiences?

Seriously, this is a new tack. Well done.

>>2338223
I'm not saying that some of the development didn't make sense, I'm saying I didn't like it and I thought it was the wrong direction for her character.

>>2338220
But that's forbidden love!

>>2338225
She was stated from the first episode to be overly confident, bullhead and focused on physical aspects of bending.
You're genuinely surprised that they made her become more measured, thoughtful and mature?

>>2338218
I can see that. Iroh really didn't like her.

>>2338220
>Spirit Mai
How? Did she reach enlightenment through complete apathy?

>>2338226
You have the reading comprehension of a Detroit high schooler. I'm saying I don't -like- the changes, not that I was surprised by them. It was painfully obvious they were going to do it when she couldn't learn air bending.

Jerkass Korra was more fun and a better character. Flaws are good things.

>>2338228
She had years with Zuko and Aang, man. He probably taught all of his friends how to chill in the spirit world.

Now I really want to go back and write for it. Fuck.

>>2338229
Typical Avatar, always abusing their powers to help their friends. Amon was right!

>>2337987
It wasn't just the blood of her enemies she drank.

>>2338229
>You have the reading comprehension of a Detroit high schooler.
>if I intentionally misconstrue your point, I can call you dumb! I'm so smart!

>I'm saying I don't -like- the changes, not that I was surprised by them. It was painfully obvious they were going to do it when she couldn't learn air bending.
Those "painfully obvious" changes didn't even happen in season one, beyond her choosing not to always prioritise her own feelings above others, and even that was in service to the love triangle.

>Jerkass Korra was more fun and a better character. Flaws are good things.
You must have loved the first half of Book Two.

And Korra keeps her attitude throughout; it's just tempered by her not being completely unsocialised. FFS, she grabs the president by his face in season three in front of the entire press and Lin has to break it up. She hates Hou-Ting, but conceals it (at first) for Tenzin's sake. In season four, she routinely insults Wu to his face, when Raiko, Asami, Lin and others danced around it.

She's still the same character; just not as petulant and likely to threaten physical force for disagreeing with her.

Is your position that flaws are good or that Korra being a jerkass was good? Because they're not inherently linked.

>Flaws are good things.
Yes, season four Korra certainly had her shit together, right?

You say you preferred jerkass Korra, and now you're intimating that it's because she was flawed. Are you seriously saying that Korra's became an unflawed character as the series progressed?

>>2338223
This is actually not a new tack, it's a favorite go-to for Makorrafags. It's new coming from an apparent Kuvirafag though.

I'm the only one who likes Ty Lee/Mai. I don't get why the climax of The Boiling Rock didn't create a bunch of fans.

>>2338458
Everyone was too busy focusing on Azula. As they should! She just had her heart broken by that treacherous two timing pink clad bitch!

>>2338504
Scrapper shut the Hell up.

>>2338612
Hay now... I like Azula, but I ain't that delusional.

>>2338189
>But holy shit, if you think the fanbase disliked Mako in the original telling, here, they'd have had to write him out.

It would solidify him as the "Zuko" of the story and Korra kicking over his desk in season 2 wouldn't have people calling for her blood despite Lin smiling and saying that Korra went easy on him compared to how Lin treated Tenzin but the audience still lauded Lin.

>>2338612
is he still active? I would have assumed he finally ended up in jail by now

>>2337988
>once as a four year child and never said again?
Didn't she have that as an action phrase for combos in that shitty Platinum game?

>>2334122
Possibly the biggest stretch anyone's ever made to justify a ship.

>>2338779
Well yeah, because it's twist. Everyone knows of Azula the Great Conqueror and her love of Queen Ursa the Warm. It's a romance forged in fate that is lauded highly throughout the four nations.

>>2338784
Does it come from the same author of Ursa's Big Book on Parenting?

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>>2339380
I'm not sure about using Asami's shock glove as a sexual aid.

>>2339460
Would probably work better on Korra's fat fucking tats.
>>2338791
No the UBBP is from the competition to try and discredit the great rulers of the FN.

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>>2338779
please, people were shipping Korrasami even before we had a character description of Asami.

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>>2339460
She built it herself, of course it has a vibe- and electrostimulation functions. Why wouldn't it.

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>>2339704
Asami doesn't have different gloves for different occasions?

So, tell us about that AU concept you really like but nobody's written

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>>2339802
Avatar Asami (her mother was WT)

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>>2339711
You know how it goes, zapping some bad guys with your bae, get all hot and bothered, score some unexpected downtime when in a secluded alley... Gotta take those moments when you get 'em, you know? Would be a shame if at that very moment you notice you left "the other glove" at home.

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>>2339912

>>2339802
So it starts off in a coffee shop...

>>2339960
And it ends with Korra becoming Cthulhu.

>>2339965
Avatar of Madness
>Set in the Far East in the eve of the Second Sino-Japanese War. Korra's driven south from her native Kamchatka by visions she can't quite explain but is compelled to follow. Asami is a mixed-race bastard child of a Japanese businessman and of an expat Russian countess whose mundane future seems set in stone, her only solace in fiddling with engines and radios in a shed she adoringly calls her workshop while she dreams of racing and flying. Mako and Bolin are brothers and police officers in Shanghai investigating ritualistic murders, which is made more difficult with possible involvement of influencial foreigners. Little do they know that as Asami is surprised by hearing beavily accented Russian in a coffeeshop one morning, events which will test their sanity, faith and love have already been set in motion. And as Humanity seems to be ever more surely marching collectively towards oblivion, Asami will find that the fate of the whole World may rest in her hands...

I'd read it, sis.

>>2339802
Earth kingdom adventures heavily styled after the pre-WWII warlord era in China, with lots of gunfights and cuddling

>>2337846
I always supposed that all bending is related to oxygen.

>>2338218
Sweet outside trip there https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZigxjbTY0Y

>>2340460
>I always supposed that all bending is related to oxygen.

It has merit.
Air and Water are made up of oxygen. Fire is fueled by it. And Earth is like 20 to 50 percent oxygen. And spirit/energybending is bullshit and shit has oxygen in it, even if it is from a bull.

Did season 2 help prevent this whole "they're all connected so anyone can bend all of them" mindset? By making it an ancient kite who needed to fuse with a human when the planets were aligned, they effectively have it so a person could only use one element regardless if they encompass all the disciplines. Couldn't they have just kept it the spirit of the planet that way there is actual weight behind the choice of balance rather than whatever Raava's host says?

Interview with the artist for Turf Wars about the book http://www.cbr.com/interview-irene-koh-legend-of-korra-personal-project/

>>2340480
I think other spirits have their own views on 'balance'. Otherwise Koh wouldn't have intervened because Kuruk was being a beach bum.

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>>2340480
I think the key to understanding the writers' decision is back to the clip show episode, wherein Varrick makes light of the entire cosmic realignment.

It's telling that the show basically throws away the whole mythos surrounding Avatar/Antichrist powers as a literal B movie plot, which somewhat resets the mythos back from scientific and technical that S1 was dangerously close to getting (e.g. lightning benders used as public utilities) back to handwaving that all of S2's finale was.

S3 was a resounding success, but their patrons did not care. S4 was the actual final straw that broke Bryke's back, so they wrapped up all loose ends left by the previous seasons with just that one episode. With the entire clipshow cathartically providing closure to earlier plot points so facetiously, and with the final push for the ending, the show went out with not a whimper, but a bang.

>>2340482
>There’s a lot of backstory that comes through, particularly in regards to how the Avatar world views sexuality, which has been exciting to learn about – especially when it comes to finding out that some of the characters had been decidedly queer since they were first conceived!
oh
oh no

>>2340527
While I understand your trepidation, let's be honest and give some credit - Kyoshi was no way in hell ever straight at any point during her character creation.

>>2340562
>Kyoshi was no way in hell ever straight at any point during her character creation.
Didn't she have a daughter?

>>2340572
Probably did what Toph couldn't, she made Diana of Themiscyra through earth bending.

>>2340572
Well she did massacre the poor infant's entire family.

>>2340576
So her daughter Koko isn't bloodrelated to her?
But well I didn't watch AtLA in a long time, so I could be wrong

>>2340562
>let's be honest and give some credit
Is this a story that needs to be told?
Why have this for Korra's story?
Why have this for Asami's story?

Also Kyoshi had a daughter.

I never get tired of the idea that Asami forces Korra to act like a how slut in public.

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>>2340674
>forces

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>>2338778
Christ, is this the level /co/ is at now?

>>2339802
None of Aang's children turned out to be airbenders...

>>2339802
Tyzula high school AU where everyone has kept their powerset and general status.in life.

>>2340527
So Kya gets confirmed being gay. And?

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>>2340774
I swear I'm putting that cursed monkey's paw back in the box and am not going to use it again.

>>2340572
>>2340643
>Kyoshi ain't straight
>BUT SHE HAD A KID THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS ADOPTION OR BISEXUALITY

Let's also not forget she was over 200 years old, let's not pretend pesky standard biological functions apply here.

>Is this a story that needs to be told?
>Why have this for Korra's story?
>Why have this for Asami's story?
There's no indication that this is going to be a focal plot point - in fact I doubt it is. THere's zero mention of this in any of the summaries, so most likely it's a few short instances of "revelation" and then on with the A plot. As to whether it's a story that needs to be told, well, it might be. Korrasami are the first canonically overt queer characters, and the main lead(s). You can't separate them from this. What should be worrying is HOW Bryke handle this storyline, not whether it exists or not.

>>2340979
>Let's also not forget she was over 200 years old, let's not pretend pesky standard biological functions apply here.
Are you saying Kyoshi pulled a Plagueis? Kyoshi is Snoke confirmed.

>>2340998
>Snoke
Please, Kyoshi was better than that Papa Palpatine knock off.

>>2340643
Kind of hard not since Asami and Korra are the first actual characters like that in the franchise so obviously they would have to mention shit like that and how the different cultures see it because in a way that is also world building, like it or not.
For example the Northern Watertribe with it's history of looking down on women might have a bit of a problem with gay people while fucking your sibling is very much acceptable if not encouraged

>>2341026
Yeah, but lets put things in perspective here.

If Korra is Anakin. Then Sheev is Unalaq... which then makes Vaatu... Bane? No wait he'd be The Son.

Okay you're right, this is silly.

>>2341045
>spoilers
That goes double in Fire Nation nobility.

>>2341054
>Zuzu will forever be depressed
Stop ghost posting Zuzu. Azula never cared about you that way.

>>2341058
But Zuko loves Mommy!

>>2341069
And yet she never cared enough to do something that really mattered, yet she cared enough to break Azula's psyche

>>2341074
Poor Azula. The only time anyone cares enough to do something for her is out of spite.

Also
>implying saving his life isn't significant

>>2341078
If Zuzu was good enough he wouldn't need to be saved. Seriously though fncest is such a reach for everything it's dumb and I hate how it has a little cult.

>>2341079
I think Azula's mass of shipping has to do with Grey's ability to make Azula sound inappropriately sexual in an awful lot of her dialogue.

Not that it matters as that rainbow fire bit from the dragons or whatever during Aang and Zuko's gay little field trip was straighter than Azula was.

>>2341045
>with it's history of looking down on women might have a bit of a problem
One of their stupid chiefs is a woman. And Unalaq, as "traditionalist" as he was, had said half chief learn combat and betroth herself. So that example doesn't hold any water.

>>2340868
>And?
nothing of value was lost nor gained. It's if they start making a list and checking it twice that the space on the bingo sheet gets marked.
How close are we to a BINGO anyway?

>>2341198
Did a horse spirit phase through them?

>>2341205
No. Just a frying pan.

>>2341198
I don't even know what character is supposed to be on the right, but it looks like it would be voiced by Johnny Yong Bosch.

>>2326342
If Azula did nothing wrong might as well spit it out right now.

The Equalist did nothing wrong. They are the song of angry men overthrowing the Bender establishment.
Red Lotus did nothing wrong. They are the sword that strikes down tyrants watering the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants.
Kuvira did nothing wrong. She was taking back an inseparable part of the Earth Kingdom and reuniting the nation.

My only criticism is that instead of building walls and a giant robots she should have built thousands of missiles and mechas ready to tear apart separatist forces.

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>>2341442
Kuvira, at least, was a complete idiot. If she emulated Cao Cao and had bundled off Wu to some palace, she could have had an imperial seal on all her actions and probably suffered no real resistance until she wanted to attack Republic City.

Also, the giant robot going alone into RC, without the army all around it, was dumb.

>>2341486
Kuvira did bring her army along. But her mech troops above ground got shut down by Varrick's giant EMP and those below ground got taken out by Wu's badgermoles.

Guess she should've taken ordinary infantry as well.

>>2341442
The Equalist wanted to purge bending which ties into cultures. They wanted to end the various cultures and identities of their neighbors and, since a nonbender can have bending children, curtail their own families' histories. They cheered when children were going to lose their bending.

The Red Lotus wanted to reduce the world to the state it was in during Wan's time. Especially since a certain someone opened up the stupid portals thereby allowing for a scenario to occur again. They also were okay with killing democratically elected people like Korra's father and Raiko. Furthermore, they also were okay with killing the airbenders. None of the aforementioned are tyrants nor impeding on any persons' liberties.

Kuvira is not entitled to take back land that is no longer part of the Earth Kingdom. She is an invader. Her reuniting the Earth Kingdom is noble, and maintaining order when suddenly everyone became a bandit for some reason is good.

And if not for Korra, she couldn't have built all those things without the resources Korra left all over the place for people to focus on and research. So Kuvira should at least like throw Korra a party or something for provider her a reason and purpose in life.

>>2341535
Yes. They are all in the wrong despite how justified some may be. Especially Unalaq, who hasn't even been mentioned due to how wrong all that was.

Yet all this could have been avoided if Roku wasn't such an unreasonable stick in the mud.

>>2341539
>Yet all this could have been avoided if Roku wasn't such an unreasonable stick in the mud.
Roku has nothing to do with Korra's actions and lack of action after season 1.

>>2341541
>implying any of that would have happened in Sozin's utopia
I'm starting to question your loyalties.

>>2340482
>Part One focuses on Korra and Asami trying to maneuver coming out to their friends and family
>In terms of how it relates topically, I think there will always be corrupt capitalist villains to mirror, but more than ever, we need positive queer representation in media to combat the ignorance we see becoming more and more emboldened these days.
[Drinking Intensifies]
somebody get the bingo card, it's time to die

>>2341535
>no longer part of the Earth Kingdom.
The Yue Bay has, is and ALWAYS will be part of the Earth Kingdom since time immemorial. A part of the Earth Kingdom such as every other state wracked by rebel and chaos.

>>2341205
Not a horse, just Sarah Jessica Parker.

>>2340482
>Part One focuses on Korra and Asami trying to maneuver coming out to their friends and family in the midst of

So, First World Problemas: The Comic

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>>2341757
If anything isn't coming out least problematic in the first world?

>>2341757
I fail to see how it would even be an issue in the Avatar-verse. Especially among the ruling class.

>>2341769
A few of those overlap with the idea of art. Still not a "winner" before the product hits the shelves, but this is just the first part.

>>2341826
>I fail to see how it would even be an issue in the Avatar-verse. Especially among the ruling class.
It wouldn't. That's what makes it even worse for the writer of their own story thinking it would by trying to inject this particular real world thing into the Avatar-verse.
There's different aspects of the characters to focus on that emerge naturally by their actions rather than maneuvering coming out to others.

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>>2340527
>>2341627
>>2341769
[Worry Intensifies]

The blue squares need replacing ever since Irene Koh took over from Britney Williams, but I've been lazy.

>>2341833
Where is the lower right one confirmed?
That sounds more like speculation right now

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>>2341826
Up until rather recently in time the women of the North were treated as non-equal until Katara came around and you're now telling me something like Korrasami not exactly being the norm wouldn't be adressed one way or another?

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>>2341843
>Up until rather recently in time the women of the North were treated as non-equal
Now that I think about it, Unalaq was a conservative, so why was Eska taught to fight?

Ok, when is the comic released for real?

>>2333075 says June
The >>2340482 interview says July 26th at the end
>Amazon.es says June 7th
>Amazon.com tells me August 8th

>>2341847
always go with the later option. I've never heard of a comic date being moved up, or being returned to its original time once delayed.

>>2341843
I was regarding the world as a whole. We all no about the north and their issues. Why do you think the FN called them savages?

>>2341846
He was evil. Think about it...

>>2341769
I'm gonna disagree with that "art is inferior to owler" etc option. Sequential art is inherently different from individual paintings, it's about telling a story with the transitions between panels. Time is also a factor (though this book seems to have been given plenty).

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>>2341855
>Time is also a factor (though this book seems to have been given plenty).
I would love to know the story behind the delays of this book.

>>2341853
>Why do you think the FN called them savages?
Because to, as Zhao would say, the Fire Nation "are the sons and daughters of fire, the superior element." They would look down on all cultures that are not their own during the war.
The North had strict guidelines but we see that they're not that way except for those of their own tribes and maybe not even anymore. Unless the writers want to make stuff up with the excess already on their plate.
"There are new villains who would seek to take advantage of it, President Raiko’s troublesome involvement in spirit world matters, the ire of citizens who’ve been displaced by its creation, and the vengefulness of one particular character aimed towards Korra herself."

So the people will hate Korra because of who she is AND what she has done. Or was Kuvira full of shit when she said millions love the Avatar despite her trying to kill someone that millions love?

>>2341861
>Or was Kuvira full of shit when she said millions love the Avatar
Nah. Turns out RC the only place that seems to has a problem with Korra.

>>2341866
This. Other places seemed to like her. Remember that concerned fishing vendor that still kept her photo?

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>>2341838
Admittedly, it is speculation. But I can't fathom that if they're going to make the coming out a big deal, that it won't have some Sokka on Kyoshi Island style cringe where the sexist/homophobic character learns the error of their ways.

>>2341843
In real life, segregating women and men would make sense. In a world with bending, not allowing potentially superstrong female benders to join in the defence of the LAST Water Tribe stronghold in the world seemed retarded. It felt like it was written solely to give Katara something to do, and to explain away her preposterous power gains. And then she became a world-class Waterbending Master in a weekend.

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>>2341847
IIRC, the August date is for the online release. I'd imagine the July date for the physical release is accurate.

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>>2341855
>I'm gonna disagree with that "art is inferior to owler" etc option

In my defence, that was put in when Brittney Williams was the artist.

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>>2341861
>So the people will hate Korra because of who she is AND what she has done. Or was Kuvira full of shit when she said millions love the Avatar despite her trying to kill someone that millions love?
It's been accepted for thousands of years that the Avatar's word goes. Kuvira even announced her surrender on these terms. Though I like the idea of one fanfic where Kuvira loyalists insist that that Kuvira was a spirit imitating Kuvira.

>>2341867
>This. Other places seemed to like her.
She was given a warm welcome in a whole bunch of of twins and villages across the EK in book three. It was Tenzin that they rejected. Zaofu also gave her a very respectful welcome. The Earth Queen was established to be a bitch to everyone, and only got away with her shit because she knew she had something Korra wanted.

>>2341871
>But I can't fathom that if they're going to make the coming out a big deal, that it won't have some Sokka on Kyoshi Island style cringe where the sexist/homophobic character learns the error of their ways.
The only reasonable people that will count are Tenzin, Korra's family and their friends and I doubt any of those will be suddenly bigots, that leaves a bunch of people that don't matter like Raiko or the RC populance, but those people are also Marvel citizen level of retarded so who cares about them?

>>2341875
>She was given a warm welcome in a whole bunch of of twins and villages across the EK in book three. It was Tenzin that they rejected. Zaofu also gave her a very respectful welcome. The Earth Queen was established to be a bitch to everyone, and only got away with her shit because she knew she had something Korra wanted.
It seems it's mostly Republic City that comes off as kinda "too modern to need an Avatar"

>>2341883
Which is why she needs to remind them just who and what an Avatar is.

>I didn't destroy your city. You want me to destroy your city!
>Korra proceeds to sink Republic City into the sea
>YOU DID THIS!

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>>2341880
Yeah, you're probably right. I'll fix it in the next iteration, and add some updated squares. (Though it would be hilarious if Senna turned put to be a staunch traditionalist and had a major falling out with Grand Gardener Tonraq.)

>>2341883
>It seems it's mostly Republic City that comes off as kinda "too modern to need an Avatar"

They loved Aang. They really seemed to want a fully fledged Avatar that could solve the injustices of the city, tackle the Triads, etc. But Lin would rather have Korra arrested than allow her to help people, because Tenzin wanted kids.

>>2340482
>>2340527
That's... just referring to Kya. Only Kya.

N-no need to worry!

>>2341891
>Which is why she needs to remind them just who and what an Avatar is.
So not let the antiChrist get half of what he wants and not fight in the middle of the city against a plot robot?

>>2341898
As >>2341880 said, they are Marvel citizen levels of retarded. Unless she is directly addressing them as the god she is, they don't care. Except for scapegoating there problems.

>>2341846
>why was Eska taught to fight?

Because what's the point of having creepy twins if you're not going to use them right?

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>>2341846
She learned to fight posing as Desna.

>>2341990
I can see that happening. Would be good for a few jokes too.

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>>2341853
>He was evil. Think about it...

He wasn't a real conservative. He posed as one to conceal his true batty motivations.

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>>2342347
>He posed as one to conceal his true batty motivations.
Getting rid of your brother to become king/chieftan, I understand. Unleashing the devil and then merging with it, I do not.

>>2341791
I don't think millennials got the memo (judging by their endless bitching about "muh oppression").
Also, what's with this identitarian bullshit? Look, Koh. I don't have an issue if you need a character in a childrens show to resemble you and your quirks in order to feel your existence validated, but please, PLEASE, stay clear from turning the comics into some tacky minority pandering. Bangladeshi, you say? Who the fuck cares!
Why do we have to put such an emphasis on race anyway?

>>2342819
>globalisation ruined my culture

>>2342819
I just meant that dismissing 'coming out' as a first world problem seems a little myopic. I thought that was reserved for bitching about how oppressive it is that you can only get pumpkin spice lattes like one month of the year or some shit.

>>2341791
I doubt coming out will ever be easy.

>>2342819
Koh can say whatever she wants. She isn't writing this thing.

>>2342958
>Koh can say whatever she wants. She isn't writing this thing.
Another person on the team, even if they are not the designated writer, can and should have input if they are looking at the material for its own sake. Remember how Sokka was written before his voice actor brought up suggestions? And now Sokka is one of the favorites, up there with Zuko.

Such a minor thing can snowball out of control and lose focus easily.

Okay how about this, Korra and Asami having sex in a giant cup of coffee?

>>2343197
Go to sleep Iroh.

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>>2338229
>Jerkass Korra was more fun and a better character.

Yeah, they completely neutered and changed her from book one, amirite?