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Welp.

Why am I even creating this thread? I honestly don't know at this point.

Consolation theories discussed in previous thread—
1. Historia will eventually inherit the dancing titan (or perhaps a winged fusion titan of some kind) by consuming Galliard, and become mindfused with Ymir.
2. The anime and the manga will diverge, with the manga pursuing Isayama's originally planned "bad ending", and the anime having its own ending, where Ymir isn't kill.
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On the other hand, today's episode was nice.
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>>2325033
Couldn't choose a better OP picture?
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>>2325045
What's the point?
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>>2325033
Making Hisu inherit the Jaws titan would be kind of cruel I think, but I could see Isayama doing that. It would be a constant reminder to her how Ymir is gone, etc.
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>>2325043
>>2325044
This is true love. Isayama a SHIT.
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>>2325043
>>2325051

(I'm weirdly selectively tech savvy, and only know how to make webms, not gifs. Sorry. If somebody could gif this for me so it can be posted on other websites, I'd much appreciate it.)
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>>2325033
I can think of several anime where #2 was the case, and for the better, so at this point it's pretty much the best we can hope for.
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>>2325048
>would be kind of cruel I think
I can see him pulling out even more cruel thing, the Gallard guy will somehow see Historia and then he will hear "I love you" in his Ymir memories and will tell her that, so Ymir confession will go from some random guy mouth and with that he will protect Historia and Historia would accept him to not kill anymore as Ymir last will.

There's no good resolution now, I really doubt Historia will become winged titan through eating him, for an a =uthor who said he liked Ymir character he really gave her a shitty backstory and idiotic death just to bring focus to Reiner group, hell I wouldn't be so mad if Gallard was a girl as a yuri fan, but then we get really ugly vibes with this that yuri love can't happen but a guy can if Gallard will turn to be in love with Historia due to Ymir memories and Historia will somehow feel Ymir in him.

The worse thing is I will follow this manga anyway being on the ride so long knowing nothing good yuri wise will ever come out of it now.
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Now kiss.
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>>2325033
Such sad news. I didn't even bother keeping up with SnK anynore but this came as a hard and painful blow.

Rest in peace you wonderful jerk.
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>>2325098
Yeah, that would be the worst.
I kinda like the idea of Historia eating him or just killing him to "avenge" Ymir. Which would be cruel in a way typical of snk: even if she eats him, chances that she could see Ymir's memories seem low.
Galliard being affected by what he learnt of Ymir isn't necessarily bad (could give us a bit more of her with flashbacks) as long as it doesn't turn into het.
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>>2325098
>for an a =uthor who said he liked Ymir character he really gave her a shitty backstory and idiotic death just to bring focus to Reiner group

I was just thinking today how fucking disappointing her backstory was. Like, we were led to believe she was a fucking queen or something. But then, nope, just some gutter child that a random cult of like 30 people worshipped. What?
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>>2325246
Maybe that's supposed to be the real tragedy of her character. She was just a random orphan who was given a name that was too big for her and that resulted in her death.
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>>2325033
Glad I dropped the manga years ago.

After hearing the news, watching today's episode really twisted the knife in the wound.
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I'm glad I stopped paying attention to SnK shortly after the first season finished airing.
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>>2325246
I also expected more with all the hints, but her backstory was still okay. Her character and backstory turned out to be tragic till the end I just feel bad for her. Like Galliard said she was just a normal girl with a name that was too much of burden. She was selfless till the end.
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>>2325302
*and I
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>>2325033
I think I'm lost. I read up to chapter 92 but tend to read off and on, so I tend to forget things. Where is this image from? Ymir is confirmed kill?
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I'm just hoping for Historia to avenge Ymir. And then be the last one alive of the main cast, since everyone else is Titans and will die in a few years while Historia rules over everything.
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>>2325308
It's from chapter 93, scans are out since yesterday.
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>>2325034
I ship Sasha x historia better. Ymir reminds me of a classic asshole
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>>2325308
>>2325318
Please disregard my post, I was unaware chapter 93 had been released. I have read it and am now as sad as the rest of you.
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>>2325313
I hope at this point Historia dies too. No point anymore in Yumikuri without Ymir.
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>>2325296
same
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All shifters will get btfo at some point and none of the pairings involving them will ever come true.

I still cling to some sick and delusional hope that maybe Ymir will maintain her mind and part of spine in Gallard to came out at some point if she managed to do that in mindless form for 60 years and still regenerate but that's rather impossible.

It looks that Isayama decided to seal her fate and kill her off in the moment he wrote that bullshit for her to follow BR to her own death.
We all were thinking she meant something more but it's clearly visible to be retconned into nothing and was just mean to develop Historia and nothing else, just bad bait.
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I'm sad and mad at the same time
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I held off watching this because I had a feeling some bullshit like this would happen. Can't even pretend to be shocked at this point because it happens every freaking time.
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>>2325098
I'm really worried Isayama will pull some shit like Ymir possessing Galliard and have him fall in love with Historia. That's such an insult to both their characters and their relationship.

Hoping Historia just kills Galliard somehow.
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>>2325350
She did help Hisu develop, but it does seem like Ymir only existed for a plot device for almost everyone. I also think after Ymir left, Isayama retconned a lot with how intense YH felt for each other - he resolved them through a fucking letter? If Ymir didn't leave with BR then none of this crap would have happened.

Ymir was just a plot device all around. Saving Bert meant Armin would survive later, and returning the Titan power to Marley means more strength for their army, etc.
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>>2325412
All characters are either just plot devices or irrelevant.
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>>2325406
Would be a weird thing to do, considering how excited good yuri makes him.
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>>2325443
Or they're EMA or Levi.
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>yuri ships in a shounen manga
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>>2325443
True, but don't you find it crazy how Armin and Reiner survived but Ymir's just an offscreen death?
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>>2325452
Hello, I present you a shounen manga.
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>>2325464
Dengeki Daioh is a shounen and seinen magazine if that's what you're referring to.
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>>2325469
What are you even saying? Dengeki Daioh is a shounen magazine, you're probably mixing it with its publishing company, Dengeki Comics. Also, if you need other examples, there's an actual yuri manga currently running in Bessatsu Shounen Magazine, so there you have it.
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I figured she was dead, so I'm not surprised. I lost hope in the ship long ago. It was cute while it lasted though.
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>>2325474
Which part didn't you understand? Dengeki Daioh is both a shounen and seinen magazine.
YagaKimi is about as shounen as Yuri Danshi is yuri though, so the magazine it runs in doesn't really say much anyway.
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>>2325484
Shounen is a demographic and yuri is a genre. Yagakimi is as shounen as it is yuri: it is targeted at young male audience and featuring lesbians.
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>>2325492
That would be seinen.
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>>2325495
You seem pretty confused about this whole target demographic/genre thing. I suggest you to do some research before you further embarrass yourself.
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>>2325497
Seinen is a demographic just as shounen.
Shounen is aimed at kids and seinen at young men.
What's so hard to understand?
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>>2325501
Seinen is aimed at a more mature audience, but what you don't seem to understand is that if a manga is published in a SHOUNEN magazine, then it makes it a shounen manga, no matter what genre it is.
Dengeki Daioh is a shounen (not seinen - where did you even get that idea from?) magazine, therefore a manga published in it is shounen. YagaKimi is shounen because it's published in a shounen magazine.
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>>2325505
It's literally written on Wikipedia and listed on Amazon and other retailers under the "seinen" category.
And, by the way, YagaKima is catagorized as seinen on Kadokawa's official website: http://www.kadokawa.co.jp/product/search/?kw=%E3%82%84%E3%81%8C%E3%81%A6%E5%90%9B%E3%81%AB%E3%81%AA%E3%82%8B
Now, do you have official information which states that it's an exclusively shounen magazine?
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>>2325514
Wew, that's news to me. I always assumed that Monthly Dengeki Daioh was an exclusively shounen magazine but it seems I was wrong, I'll give you that then.
Interesting how AnoKiss is tagged as a shounen though, while it's getting published in a seinen magazine.
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>>2325520
Well that just goes to show that one shouldn't rely too much on these labels.
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Why do the handsomest girls suffer such awful fates?
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>>2325033
I'm not a fan of the show but I came here to offer my deepest condolences. Hang in there nee-sans.
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>>2325345
>those faces
Delet
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>>2325878
>>2325880
Goddammit sis you're killing me here.
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>>2325033
Well, no one should be that surprised, as you said, Isayama's probably going for an ending where most characters die.
Still sad.
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>>2325616
My Nanaba, her death was awful :'(
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Endcard for this episode.
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>>2325033
It's pretty ass that they killed Ymir
I didn't even want a happy ending, I just wanted Ymir to spend her last couple of years before the titan curse kills her being happy with Historia
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I gotta say there has to be more to Ymir's story even though she's dead. Out of everyone other than Eren, Isayama revealed that other shifters can see past shifters memories with Ymir. He could have done that with Armin and Bert but didn't. Not to mention this narrative in chapter 50 says that the SL didn't understood the decision Ymir made in that time which could mean they'll understand it later. Also I have a feeling Galliard hasn't access all her memories and her wanting to return the Jaw might have been something she told him instead of him seeing it through her memories.
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>>2325963
Is this how their relationship would have been if they never separated? Historia is getting a piggyback ride and pulling Ymir's hair while Ymir is letting her. It's hilariously cute but knowing what would happen is just sad we'll never see them like this.
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>>2325971
Her wanting to return the Jaw titan makes zero sense and is just retarded. By doing that she is helping the people that endanger Historia's life. Isayama isn't even giving a proper explanation for it, because there really isn't any. Even in the letter she just said "I can't believe I did that"
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>>2325982
Historia in the ED of this episode
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>>2325983
That's why I think it's something she told Galliard instead when they might have had a conversation.
First it was because she sympathize with BR.
Then in her letter she said she didn't understood her decision herself.
Now it's because she wanted to return the power to a nobody?
Not to mention he changed Ymir's whole characterization in two panels. Either this is what Galliard is told to think about Ymir or Isayama just threw characterization off the charts for just pure plot. I just want him to fix this view of her not wanting to live and her dying with her head hold down. But one can only hope so much in a story that didn't have much hope for the characters to begin with.
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>>2325987
I wish we will get a proper explanation, but at this point I'm not getting my hopes up anymore.
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New screencap for the 3DS game
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>>2325988
The only explanation we will get will be in form of flashback from memories Gallard will have when at some point he will see and meet Historia or he will tell her directly or Historia would eat him as mindless titan, but then making Historia a shifter would completely waste Ymir sacrifice so I don't see that route happening..

Sadly Ymir backstory made her no one, just orphan, not some past goddess reincarnation, and then she became suicidal and for unknown reason started feeling Marcel memories to help BR and return this power to some new shifter on enemies side and by that killing herself willingly, she wasted few years she could easily spend with Historia for the sake of enemy.

It wasn't even Ymir fault Marcel died, but people who turned her into mindless titan. It's really lame that a character who told Hsitoria they should leave strongly for themselves at one moment completely decided to give up on her own life for literally no reason cause like her BR would die with time anyway.
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>>2326075
I find the only explanstion that makes sense for thid happening that Ymir was nothing more than just a plot device.
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>>2325987
I blame lazy writing, it clear at some point Ymir role was meant to be something bigger and more mysterious but in time he wrote her off to help BR and Isayama just decided to discard her with boring backstory and letter who doesn't say anything to make room for new generation on enemy side during these 4 years she was missing from story.

It's clear he changed her character to just kill her off like that which doesn't have any kind of sense with what we knew of her. I would prefer to see her just die on-screen in some fight than being killed off in two lazy panels showing her face of a suicide girl who given up on everything.

Gallard seeing her memories quite confirms she's a kill cause there's no way she could somehow survive being eaten since he clearly absorbed her brain memories and spinal fluid.
And I really doubt her brain and part of spine can survive in him and then regenerate somehow from the titan mass, Ymir survived 60 years of nightmare just to get killed off for nothing.
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>>2326077
Maybe that's why Ymir was Isayama's favourite character to write, he didn't need to develop her, just create empty husk given specific role to be killed of when her role ended as it turns out.

Reiner can survive everything and also Armin, for sure Annie too will be back in the game somehow but Ymir just had to die off.
Isayama likes yuri or yaoi?
Good joke, so far every gay ship was killed off.
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>>2326083
>Good joke, so far every gay ship was killed off.
And het ships, like every parents or Franz and Hannah. Her and Jean are very similar, so maybe he enjoys writing jerks with a heart of gold. I guess Ymir gets a bonus, because he loves yuri.
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>fuck this het planet
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Honestly, I'm sure it will end with ALL titans dead.
That much was clear to me when the whole backstory with Eldia and so on got explained.
Any bets on which characters will survive?
I say at least Mikasa but I wouldn't be too surprised if she somehow ate Annie.
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>>2326083
>Isayama likes yuri or yaoi?
He does like yuri, but he clearly considers the tragic elements to be an inherent part of the genre. Which, historically, it has been.
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>>2326101
>I say at least Mikasa but I wouldn't be too surprised if she somehow ate Annie.
Mikasa can't become a titan.
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>>2326083
Giving some credit to Isayama, he wrote an incredible yuri relationship. Is too sad it had to end this way
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>>2326102
Nips generally have a weak spot for tragic romance.
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I think there's still a tiny possibility Ymir might still be alive. It's ossible Galliard just took some of her spinal fluids.

Though I'm about 95% convinced she's gone for good. And even if this is the case, I'm sure we wouldn't have heard the last of Ymir. No doubt that there is going to be a scene where Galliard at least mentions what things he talked about with Ymir. Perhaps, if this is the case, it will give some closure to Historia's confusion about why Ymir left.
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Also, I hope Historia doesn't get paired up with a male character. I'm sure Historia will want to move on eventually, maybe even many years in the future, but please, PLEASE, give her a female love interest.

That, or I find Historia dying way more fitting for her character. But instead of Historia dying to please others, ,she dies in her own terms.

Just, please, no het relationship with Historia.
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>>2326103
Maybe the Ackerman mutants can.
She's half that.
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>>2326113
She's half asian, which are immune to mind erasing as well.
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>>2326105
This, Ymir and Historia have an amazing relationship and they'll always be one of my favorite yuri couples.
Unfortunately they were stuck in a story where people die pointlessly and meaninglessly, especially good people, so an happy end was out of the question.
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>>2326325
>especially good people, so an happy end was out of the question
Depends, if Isayama will indeed fuck over everyone to have bad ends Ymir death won't hurt so much, at least all shifters will die at some point to leave one shifter joining the Ymir Fritz power to end the curse one way or another, but Historia and all other non-shifters can have their happy end if Isayama will want it.

If Historia will move on from Ymir to end with some random guy over time and have his kids and will name one Ymir that will be shitty end for yuri fans, if she will survive I hope she won't marry any guy and will just run orphanage but as already a bunch of years passed who knows if she wasn't forced already to marry some noble guy as Queen duty to give heir to new Reiss lineage.
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>>2326325
Pretty much
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>>2326343
>forced into a loveless marriage for the sole purpose of producing a heir
I could see that happening, but I doubt that it happened during the timeskip anyway, she's still so young.
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>>2326343
>forced already to marry some noble guy as Queen duty to give heir to new Reiss lineage
She might avoid to have any children to end the lineage for good, semthing I can also see coming.
I really think it ends with the destruction of all titans.
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>>2326102
since this was known for a while, i figured he was going to write a really tragic end for this relationship. So i accepted that ymir was going to die eventually, but like this? It's not tragic, just boring
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Kinda mad that Isayama let Sasha live even if he planned her to die but still kills Ymir.

Then again Ymir dying was probably crucial to his plot while Sasha living or not is probably quite irrelevant.

Anyway I'm sad.
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>>2326551
We are talking about the same guy who revealed that Reiner was the armored titan in a conversation in the background.

It's his style.
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Any significance to Ymir's letter saying "I haven't married you YET"? She was certain she'd be dead soon, so why would se write something that implies a future occurrence?

Or was that line just a bad translation?
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>>2326729
I already expected Ymir to die at some point, because she is the protector type of character. I just wish the reason wasn't this nonsensical and completely retarded. How could Isayama even remotely think giving back a power to the enemies who endanger Historia's life was a understandable reason? Also why is suddenly okay for Reiner and Zeke to return empty handed, but before that BR had to bring Ymir? Not to mention the curse reveal and BR dying soon anyway made her sacrifice pointless as well.
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>>2326773
I also find the letter just suddenly ending like that weird. Also why didn't she give a proper explanation why she helped BR, instead of just saying "I'm sorry for what happened and can't believe myself I chose them over you"
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>>2326785
>I also find the letter just suddenly ending like that weird. Also why didn't she give a proper explanation why she helped BR, instead of just saying "I'm sorry for what happened and can't believe myself I chose them over you"
Yeah, that's just insane, it's like Eren using coordinate in that one moment affected only Ymir in remembering her past shifter memories and she just couldn't live with quilt of now knowing she eaten a real person and decided to suicide for BR and Marcel family sake completely showing a finger to Historia and SL at the same time.

Ymir after all knew BR like her don't have more years to live, Bert died anyway for Armin survival sake, removing character from plot for 4 years in real life just to bring her back in half-assed 2 panels death moment to give some new guy some focus was weak.

Of what we know Ymir she was strong willed.
Nobody would survive 60 years in mindless titan form to regenerate their mind and body from that and remain sane only through strong will.

And then the same strong-willed person gave all that away by one plot twist of the author whim or lack of ideas which made only her remember her past shifter memories while not being coordinate, and it was such strong move to brainwash her to save her enemies and give them another shifter to become even stronger threat to hurt her friends inside the walls even more...

Logic of best writer indeed.
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>>2326731
that part was beautiful, such a deviation from the norm
but killing off ymir like this is just what i said before, boring.

>>2326773
my guess, just a translation/japanese thing.
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>>2326793
>my guess, just a translation/japanese thing
Not that anon, but I saw a nip on twitter also wondering about the 'yet' back then.
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>>2326791
Even if she couldn't take the guild of killing someone, which I find it little surprising, that's really no excuse to make her give back a shifter power to the people that endanger Historia's life. Also how were BR planning to protect Historia, if were going to die soon from shifter cancer anyway. Not to mention they are just Marley dogs who have nothing to say.
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>>2326799
*guilt
*a little
*they were
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>>2326799
Everything points out to one simply truth, Ymir was not needed anymore cause Historia got her development and author just got rid of her in a really lame way which was completely ooc in the story moment just for the sake of her removal from the story.

A person like Ymir just gave away on life on stupid reasoning which has completely no sense for her character development in earlier chapters, even her backstory didn't point to anything like this.

The worst thing from this is that everything points more into direction that now a real boy (Gallard after his inner Ymir memories about Historia will awake upon seeing her) will become Historia's strong protector instead of Ymir who was too weak to do so, and that's gives a really ugly message.
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>>2326809
>will become Historia's strong protector
I doubt this will happen. Memories don't make current shifters feel the same feelings as the old ones. At best Ymir's memories will affect how Galliard sees the people inside the walls and side with Paradi.

At least Ymir got to write a love letter and tell a little about her backstory, which is more than other characters got before they died. While the reason she died is still bullshit or rather very poorly explained and nonsensical.
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>>2326809
I feel like Galliard will ruin Historia's view on Ymir and create emotional damage for her. He will go up and say because Ymir was willing to give the Jaw back then he'll at least give her one favor and tell his thoughts on Ymir. Start with how Ymir wanted to live for herself with pride, but then say she couldn't because she wasn't willing to live for herself since she was only living to protect Historia and then tell her that her last look on her eyes were dead and full of regret because of it.

But then after Hisu gets herself together she'll recall her flashbacks with her and the letter and deny it. After all she was the one who knew Ymir best.
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>>2326796
Huh, interesting if it really was "yet". I still find it an odd choice of words, all things considered.
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>>2326823
Well it was just Google translate, but the nip definitely talked about the 'yet'. some moonfag on /a/ back then also pointed out that Ymir said it.
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Can those threads dissapear from /u/ now and go back to /a/?
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>>2326729
Sasha is a non-character anyway, she might as well be dead.
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>>2326840
There are currently threads on /u/ from other non-yuri series but have yuri images in them so as long someone posts some SnK yuri fanart it should be ok.

And it will die naturaly anyway cause I doubt many of us will keep reading it now yuri pairing got killed, maybe some will still read it, like I will, hoping some new yuri pairing will emerge or all will get killed at the end.
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>>2326853
I'm still reading it for Hisu. There are also still a lot of YH episodes left and a 3DS game with plenty of YH pandering.
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>>2326773
She was just trying to lighten up the mood probably, adding "yet" to the phrase was to sound more upbeat.

>>2326840
Fuck off. If Frozen and RWBY generals can stay, then so can these threads.

>>2326855
This. Also it's not like Ymir being dead invalidates the pairing, as long as they keep producing doujins, fanart or official side material featuring the two of them I don't see why these threads should die.
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What gets me anry is the fact he killed her off screen in a half panel and after a time skip.
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>>2326831
>posting het on /u/
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>>2326873
Don't even give it any attention.
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>>2326875
Why are you so mad, anon? Did you lose someone precious to you recently?
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>>2326853
>maybe some will still read it, like I will, hoping some new yuri pairing will emerge or all will get killed at the end.

I'm still reading because I'm convinced Ymir had some kind of secret plan to help Historia.

Isayama isn't a great writer, but he isn't a TERRIBLE writer either, and he'd HAVE to be terrible – worse than terrible, even – to claim to love the character of Ymir and then have her commit suicide so utterly pointlessly and stupidly.

There's got to be something more to this, and I'm gonna stick it out to the end to find out what it was.
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>>2325033
>Historia will eventually inherit the dancing titan

Oh god, oh god, now she's gonna find out about all the times Ymir masturbated while smelling Krista's hair at night in their bunk together.

God, it's like killing yourself and having your ex-fiancée read through your totally uncleared browser history.
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>>2326893
>but he isn't a TERRIBLE writer
After the previous arc I'm not so sure about that anymore.
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>>2326898
>it's like killing yourself and having your ex-fiancée read through your totally uncleared browser history
Truly a fate worse than death.
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>>2326898
I appreciate the dark humor in dark times.
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>>2325319
I-I-I like asshole girls
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>>2327213
I gathered Ymir tries to get people to stop hiding who they are.

She's a bit blunter than I'd like but I think her hearts in the right place.

Also my condolences I wasn't as invested in this series as others but still.

Hopefully there'll be some kinda twist or something.
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>>2327213
Ymir wasn't even an asshole, her heart was too big and that's why she ended up dead pointlessly.
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>>discussion of plot holes and general things that are stupid

Gee, it's almost as if Isayama doesn't actually have this all planned out ahead of time and is just making shit up as he goes along.

I see some people here saying they didn't watch past the first season (or dropped the manga at around that same point in the story). I can't really say that's the wrong decision. There's a few good moments beyond that point, but you've mostly already seen the best it has to offer.

Imagination is usually guaranteed to be more interesting than the actual explanation for any mystery, but SnK really shits the bed with its revelations. Whatever the secret of the Walls and the Titans was, I didn't expect it to involve a convoluted backstory involving ghettoized notJews, awkward right-wing Article 9 commentary about an insular island nation that has renounced war, or that the abnormal super Titans were actually just a spec ops team sent by an outside nation (with a stupid name. "Marley", really? "Kenny" as the name of an antagonist was bad enough) to capture a super-weapon. SnK is a case of less being more; as Isayama races (he literally resolves the entire issue of the herds of wandering Titans and the hundred year siege of the walls in about three pages) to crank up the scale of his story and make it (what he thinks is) more 'epic', it becomes less interesting.

Deep-sixing a somewhat promising yuri romance by killing one of the participants off-screen is probably one of the lesser story related problems in Titan.
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>>2325033
I just wanted to see that in a fantasy world where to live is to suffer that two broken people could at least find some happiness with each other
Unfortunately Ishayama when with the realistic route
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>>2327482
Killing her off-screen isn't the problem, it's the whole motivation behind her going with BR and circumstances surrounding her death.
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>>2327482
What was the weapon though?
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>>2327564
Pretty much. I don't care about the off-screen death. The reason she died is bullshit, especially after the curse reveal and Galliard now saying she wanted to give back the jaw titan, which makes zero sense.
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>>2325033
To get my mind off this can anyone recommend me some decent YH fanfics or doujins? Preferably something so sweet it'll give me diabetes
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>>2327564
why she died is bullshit, the off sceen death seemingly unimportant was just the salt rubbed on the wound
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>>2327580
One of my favorite YH fanfics
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9666683/1/Against-the-Tide
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>>2327566
The ability to control all Titans.
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How long does it usually take for the manga translation to be up on Crunchyroll?
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What does spinal fluid taste like, anyway?
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Why is Historia un danger?
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>>2311075
So then Ymir=jaws Titan?
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>>2325033
Yeah, this is why it is never smart to be invested in a shounen male centric series. They always fuck it up.
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>>2328173
>Shounen male centric

Shonen literally means it's geared towards a young male audience. Though I do feel you're wasting your time looking for yuri in a Shonen. Then again we have fucking Disney /u/ threads.
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any yuri with good art with a similar vibe to krista and ymir? like a tomboy guarding a femme girl sort of but not too cliche
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>>2328217
Funnily enough Bessatsu Shonen Magazine, which is also publishing snk, is currently publishing a yuri series.
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>>2328173
What about Mahou Sensei Negima?
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>>2325033
wait, shingeki season 2 is already on? Under what hole have I been in??
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>>2328383
There's this chinese comic, forgot the name but the MCs are Sun jing and Qiu tong. Feels a lot like Ymir and Historia
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>>2328383
>>2328902
It's called "their story" or "tamen de gushi"
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Anyone know where to find the junior high chapters that were about Ymir/Historia? I remember the one where Historia starts overeating and another where (I think) Ymir replaces Historia with Annie. Can't seem to find them anywhere.
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>>2329156
I got them from nyaa. Not sure if there is another place that uploaded them.
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>Eren is a pampered edgelord with Misaka literally babysitting him 27/4
>S2 later
>M-Muh first kill ever!!!
>Titans are former humans as evident of hairdos but these idiots ignore the possibility
>b-b-b-b-b-but.......... But!!!
>Ymir and Historia barely have any screen time
What an awful show. I'm willing to bet the last battle is team good titans vs bad titans with kung-fu action and special moves
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>>2329234
No it'll just be Nazis vs Jews with guns bombs and planes. Also with the added bonus of mindless titans, 3DMG, and shifters. Then there's Zeke with a hidden agenda that will be there to fuck everything up.
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>>2325033
>dancing titan
It's the Jaw Titan, Dancing never existed.
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So I was holding off until I heard they were reunited. Is it true? Absolutely confirmed?
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>>2329910
It's true. Absolutely confirmed. Might as well forget this series even exists now.
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>>2330131
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>>2330132
Bless your heart anon, time to save all of these.
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>>2330134
You are welcome. YH a best.
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>>2330098
>Ymir
>literally a guy that looks like he might shoot up a school
Eh.
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There was some lewd touching in the new episode.
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>>2329234
I think they realized the series is doomed, just like their half titans or w/e that have shot life spans. That Highschool AU was probably made in efforts to salvage this mess.

Major shounen mangas like this are plenty and guaranteed to disappoint /u: Bleach, One piece, etc.

The anime may go the other way than the manga and that is a good thing because the manga's art was painful to look at.

After this time, the manga probably lost it's popularity and it is best to just forget that the disaster of a manga even exists.
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>>2330205
>After this time, the manga probably lost it's popularity and it is best to just forget that the disaster of a manga even exists.
Seeing at the number it still sells of recent volume it's one of best sellers anyway despite the drop in readership.
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>>2330189
That's nice to know. I thought ep 30 was going to be the last time they had physical contact.
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Will the next episode be the diverging point?
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>>2330189
God this was so cute
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Why can't Ymir and Historia exist in a happier universe? ;_;
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>>2330531
Well, they do, if you consider Chuugakkou a happier universe.
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>>2330531
Because you touch yourself at night.
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>>2330108
Goddamn. Ymir is crotch-wettingly handsome here. Thanks for this.
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>>2325287
I dropped the manga after Ymir went MIA. I just couldn't deal with all the bullshit that was pilling up, things were getting more and more ridiculous.
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This needs a webm or a gif, that makes it look like constant petting
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I like how they gayed up YH this season. EHfags will never recover
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>>2330523
I hope to god, unless the anime follows the manga
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>>2327756
Ty anon
Was hammy at points and sometimes the writing made me laugh but it was incredibly sweet
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When she screamed for Ymir. My hart.
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>>2330809
Yeah, it broke my heart as well ;_;
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>>2330809
Could you make a gif of Hisu constantly caressing Ymir's head, please?
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>>2330819
Is this okay?
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>>2330825
Cute. Thank you, anon.
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Ymir with short hair and hair down is the best.
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>>2330809
Where would one find this with sound?
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Just some sexy to hopefully ease the pain for my fellow sis'
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>>2330874
And some naughty Historia is best Historia.
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>>2330809
And after that they never touched again. Well just Titanmir.
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>>2330523
>>2330744
Is there any credit to this potentially happening? I've seen articles about rumors, but they were dismissed. Not even for Ymir and Historia's sake, but after season 2 it slows down a lot and gets a bit boring, by comparison, so I'm wondering what route it could take
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>>2330978
I've seen nothing suggesting it but to a degree it would make sense, the early part of the whole political arc is the slowest shit ever
Unfortunately if they do decide to diverge they'll still probably get rid of Ymir, a lot of the political arc's suspense revolves around the fact that Eren has been captured and restrained so no titan power,imagine if at the end of the political arc, when the scouts attack Kenny and his wankers they also had a titan backing them up, would take the suspense right out
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>>2330978
I know it's hard to accept that Ymir is dead, but I just don't see why they would want to go for an anime original ending where she stays with the SL.

With all the information she could give the whole basement reveal would lose too much impact, not to mention that the uprising arc would change drastically too because Historia would have a completely different state of mind.
It would basically become a completely different story.
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>>2331008
Honestly I would care so much less if her death had meant something, to me it just screamed "Well I had a plan but this writing shit is difficult and it's hard to write a convincing lesbian relationship, so lets just throw this interesting character that quite a few people like out with the garbage"
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>>2331009
>and it's hard to write a convincing lesbian relationship
That's strange, because YH is very well written and also very popular. Even people who are normaly not into yuri love their relationship and ship them.
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>>2331012
Except they never got that relationship, they were approaching it, it was slowed down by the fact that life as a soldier in SnK is about as survivable as a carpet bombing (Which is why I was looking forward to it, it felt realistic to me, exploring your feelings comes second to surviving) but then it was ended with a two panel flashback, just written out of existence in a way that made no sense, I mean at what point did Ymir appear suicidal? Why would she decide to go back with Reiner?
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>>2331009
>Honestly I would care so much less if her death had meant something

It will probably meant something (like Ymir doesn't want to be used as Marley's bargain chip against Historia when the war finally happen or Ymir's death become catalyst for Historia's character to do something in future chapter or something), even Marco's death being used in recent chapter to explain Reiner's breakdown.
Also, Ymir's character always has new secret to be opened in each new arc and if Ymir does something contrary to her selfish attitude, it will be because she feel she need to do it for Historia in one way or the other.

But whatever the reason for Isayama to kill her is, Ymir is still dead, and I won't accept that decision, meaning or no meaning.
Unless she get revived or Historia somehow able to meet Ymir again through some Titan shenanigan.
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>>2331014
>Why would she decide to go back with Reiner?
Because she want to instill indebtedness to Reiner and Bertolt, so when Marley attack Eldian, Reiner and Bertolt will save Historia in case Eldian failed to use the coordinate.

While Eren has the coordinate, Ymir still doubt Eldian can defeat Marley, so in order to ensure Historia's safety, she sacrifice herself so she can has "agent" in Marley to safe Historia if the worst come to the worst.
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>>2331043
Except Bertholt is dead and Reiner doesn't have much longer so in the end she doesn't have any agency within Marley
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>>2331047
Which mean Eldian is strong enough to protect Historia, and for Ymir that is all that matter.

She might think her sacrifice is futile because of that (which maybe why her letter is end with her regret not being able to marry Historia), but for her Historia safety is all that matter.
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>>2331047
But again that makes no sense, so rather than keeping the power and using it to protect Historia her plan is to gamble that Reiner and Bertholt will survive and be able to convince the Marleyans that Historia is worth keeping alive (which Marley will do anyway because of her royal bloodline and force her to have babies which I imagine would piss Ymir off to no end) and then her plan falls even further because Bertholt dies and Reiner is next, but rather than doing anything she just commits suicide via new character?
I'm not buying it, to me it screams that Isayama had a plan but writing it was too difficult so he took the easy route
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There's still time to reveal more that might explain things better, and possibly give hope. It sucks we didn't get to see more of them, but we haven't seen the end of things yet
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>>2331055
>so rather than keeping the power and using it to protect Historia her plan is to gamble that Reiner and Bertholt will survive
This isn't a vs b option. Both are Ymir's plan.

She already has Eren (who will fight Marley to the death) who has coordinate and in Eldian side, so while she can be in Eldian, she already has someone that will and possess certain power to protect Historia. On Marley side however, there is nobody to protect her if Marley win.

And she didn't gamble Reiner and Bertolt will convince Marley Historia is worth keeping alive, she gamble Reiner and Bertolt will hide Historia from Marley (after all, for Ymir, Historia identity is still kept secret from public, and there were Royals who survived living in Marley without being known, so she expect Reiner and Bertolt will kept it that way, which I think why they didn't tell Zeke about Historia, and Reiner is the one that watch Ymir writes her letter instead of Marley's officer).

>to me it screams that Isayama had a plan but writing it was too difficult so he took the easy route

Like, what else do you think would Marley do to an Eldian that has been sent to Paradise (a death sentence) yet survive the punishment?

Do you think they'll let a symbol of hope/freedom from death like that roaming freely?
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>>2331067
Except there's still 0 people on the Marley side who have any interest in helping Historia and one less titan shifter power to protect Historia so her "plan" has just resulted in a loss, as for Isayama's original plan I thought that Ymir would reappear in the return to Shiganshima arc, turning on Reiner, Bertolt, Zeke and the mule, tipping the odds in favour of the SL
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>>2331068
Did you actually read that anon's post? He said that Ymir, in exchange for her life, convinced Bert and Reiner to not reveal Historia's existence to Marley, not that they will help her or anything. If they don't find out that she's royalty, she's safe from their grip.
This is because she came to realization that Historia will be safer on Eldian's side, thanks to Eren's power. Somehow she might have thought that this would be a convenient deal, so we just have to keep reading and see what happens next. Chances are that Gallard won't survive long with her power.
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>>2331079
Except everyone knows who Historia is now, they crowned her and everything, it's common knowledge, so what exactly did Ymir's "plan" accomplish?
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>>2331084
Eldians know, Marley doesn't since they don't have spies in there anymore except for Annie who is still a popsicle.
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>>2331084
But Ymir's plan is in case the Marleyans win in a war with the Eldians right?
"Yo who's in charge here?" "The queen in the castle at the centre of our island" "Oh, right, duh"
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>>2331079
>Did you actually read that anon's post? He said that Ymir, in exchange for her life, convinced Bert and Reiner to not reveal Historia's existence to Marley, not that they will help her or anything. If they don't find out that she's royalty, she's safe from their grip.
The only problem is that I don't remember that being mentioned anywhere in the comic that BR would actually do that, and seeing BR loyalty to Marley they would not do that having their own families kept as possible hostages in some getto, BR didn't even have any power to help Ymir survive and present her as a shifter on their side who ate Marcel on accident and decided to join their case cause they mean nothing to Zeke or nothing more to Marley rulers as army meat.

Ymir was clearly written off in lazy way just so Marley would get new shifter after Bert was fed to Armin to make him survive, Isayama needed to even the chances and Ymir's role ended as nobody orphan who given Historia her development. I wouldn't mind if Ymir actually fought to not be eaten than looking like living corpse face who given up completely once again on her own life for enemy sake and that is said by the person who ate her reasoning to return the Jaws titan to them which in reality is only official reason why she did coming from her the new guy, it's pathetic writing. That's the bullshit here, or Ymir lied to the end even to him?
Oh I wanted to suicide so I'm giving myself now to you so you new guy could eat me cause I ate Marcel by accident after being made mindless titan by your superiors 60 years ago and just by strong will I survived so much to be able to have another chance in life...

I really hope there's something more behind her death than the shit we saw in recent chapter which would maken it less idiotic.
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I think the latest episode had the most undramatic dramatic reveal I've ever seen.
>"BTW we're the enemies of humanity"
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>>2331475
I feel the same way, I just think it's because it was a ship of two broken people that were hated for being born, but rather than a happy ending all we get is suffering
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>>2331499
Bury Your Gays is such a shit trope
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>>2331503
YH is a really good ship, because it isn't written for the sake of muh lesbians but because both characters retain their own identity and simply wanted happiness for each other. It wasn't perfect but that's what made it interesting.

Isayama a shit.
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Fuck you Isayama you garbage man, what's the fucking point of fleshing out great characters then just killing them off randomly and replacing them with new ones nobody knows or cares about. What a total hack.
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>>2327997
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>>2332902
Kek, cute.
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>>2332902
That's cute.
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>>2325033
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>>2333676
Seeing that translation it's like Isayama decided to make Ymir pathetic at the end for whatever reasoning he had, damn what a ugly way to remove a character from the story in favour of some new already unlikable guy.
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>>2333676
Man, that guy looks like a 1950s greaser. He has a letterman jacket any everything.
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>>2333676
So in the official translation he isn't just an asshole towards Reiner, but also towards Ymir.
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>>2325033
Man, and I thought I was lost when I tried to get to /v/.

Did you mean to post this on /a/?
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>>2331284
It's basically that way in the original comic too.

>"Psst, hey bro, come here, I wanna talk to you about something."
>major plot revelation
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>>2333805
Weird. I assume the intent was to shock the viewer by combining a mundane scene with a something completely out of the blue, like the survivor of a zombie attack stumbling into a kid's birthday party. But it just came across as bizarre and and poorly written.
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>>2333825
It's suppose to be bizarre afterall Reiner has gone totally crazy. I'm hoping they animate the reason why this season since Isayama talked about Marco's death during the season 2 interview.
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>>2333733
His brother got eaten by a random titan in a mission that ultimately failed

What's more concerning is how Ymir "lost" to her predecessor's memories and how will it coontinue affect the protagonists
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Ymir a handsome.
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>>2334186
As usual.
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>>2333676
This makes anger boil inside me. It's like rubbing salt on the wound.
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Now I want a chuugakou season 2. I don't care how shitty that spin off is.
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>>2334410
I would prefer a Spoof animated spinoff.
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>getting emotionally invested in a manga that, outside of its plot armor-clad main trio, kills characters left and right, often in ignobile and pathetic ways

One can't help but argue that you brought this on yourselves. There were people who liked Bertholt, and he died like a bitch, crying and begging for help.
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>>2335350
>There were people who liked Bertholt, and he died like a bitch, crying and begging for help.
At least in his final moment he wanted to live, Ymir off-screen death looked like she just given up on everything for bullshit reasoning of wanting to return the Jaws titan to them, worse death than Bert's by a mile.
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>>2325033
ymir dies?
._.;;
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The new game is very YH shippy.
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>>2335447
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>>2335447
Ok, YH are definitely dykes.
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>>2335447
S-stupid sexy Reiner...
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Better quality
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>>2335350
AoT doesn't really do that though. Eventually you come to realize that there's actually a fairly large core cast that is extremely plot armored, and then an endless stream of named, one- or no-note characters (remember 'guy who keeps biting his tongue'?) whose only purpose is to die in some grotesque and 'shocking' way. Personally, I'm waiting for 'woman who takes care of Pyxis and made him stop drinking' to die.
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>>2325033
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>>2335649
Hisu looks like she got fucked by Ymir and is drunk on love.
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What chapter is about Ymir's background?
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>>2335925
CH 89. It's only about 11 pages.
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>>2335350
This is kinda how I'm feeling. You can disagree with the route the author took and discuss it, but this indignant reaction is a bit much. Go read/write a fanfic of how you'd rather it go, despite the official content nothing is stopping the fandom from proceeding. It's the authors story to write how they want, not yours.
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>>2336013
There's nothing wrong about voicing an opinion on a certain plot twist or character's death. If readers don't say anything about how they feel, how will authors understand whether what they're writing gets a positive reaction or not?
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>>2336013
>It's the authors story to write how they want, not yours.
And the story is released in public, author takes money for it, so you can have an opinion about it and voice it if you dislike or like something in it.

I don't know how japanese reacted to Ymir death, knowing them maybe they find it beautiful due to selfless sacrifice of a character or some other bullshit like that, but from logical story point her death in such way where she given up on her own life for enemy sake of getting next titan is idiotic.

I could understand her dying for Historia or SL sake, even saving BR was a stretch but then killing herself for some new guy shifter or more Marley war effort sake and ehr saying in letter she doesn't know why she did that or Gallard saying she was pathetic whose wish was to give the titan back to them reasoning?

No sane person would not complain about the idiocy of it, compared to how Armin or especially Reiner survived so far only due to plot armor cause Isayama wanted it, or how Armin molestation scene gets more screentime than Ymir death.

I wouldn't have anything against Ymir getting killed if she died fightning or at least her death had some sense for her character in given moment, but sadly for me it didn't.
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>>2336137
Like I said, I'm certainly not against discussing it. I'm mainly referring to the comments that are calling him garbage and that this ruined their lives. (I know people are just venting really) I'm still of the opinion that it's possible we might see more that makes this feel better and explain more, he does like to do flashbacks after all. If not, then yeah, sucks to see the character that got me into the entire series to begin with only got this much seemingly.
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>>2335649
>>2335659
There are still people who can deny that they are lesbians? It's pretty obvious. (especially Ymir which easily won the price of the biggest obvious lesbian)
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>>2335649
>>2335659
What this, this is so cute.
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>>2336289
It's from the new 3DS game.
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>>2336252
Nobody would deny that Ymir's a lesbo, Historia is the one whose feelings get interpreted as non-romantic by some people.
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>>2336332
Because she is the beautiful/moe little stereotyped blonde with blue eyes?
There are a lot of people who deny that her feelings are romantic because they don't want to accept that a girl like that can love another girl like Ymir. Especially people on /a/ board and their bad-faith. I find it ridiculous all the solutions they find to contradict that. Must really be blind to not see what's in between them and call this delusional. It's worse than obvious.
I am really glad to stop following this manga and to leave this fandom.
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>>2336407
You can tell they're obviously a thing even without reading the manga because of official merchandise and stuff out there like for example this card.
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>>2336238
I think the reason we're especially annoyed over this is that SnK is really mainstream, since the anime came out it gained a massive amount of popularity in the west and given that Ishayama has said that he enjoys yuri I guess we kinda hoped that maybe for once a mainstream yuri couple wouldn't end in dead lesbian syndrome, unfortunately that's exactly what happened
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>>2336915
It's not really because they are lesbians, but rather of the story itself. Bert for example didn't even get to talk to Annie before he died and Franz/Hannah were both killed off as well, while Ymir at least got to write a love letter to her waifu.
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>>2336952
Yeah, I don't think it makes much sense to complain about dead lesbians in a story where everyone keeps getting killed.
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>>2336952
Pretty much this. Bert totally got the short end of the stick when compared to Ymir, and also died screaming and begging for his life. I honestly prefer a off-screen death to such a miserable end.
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>>2336956
Yeah, not sure why anyone would want to see that, besides shitposters who hate her.
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A nip drew a happy ending for YH

https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=62925157
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>>2337833
Kek. That ending.
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>>2337833
I just realized my life needs more married lesbian Queens.
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>>2335407
Yes, and it was very painful for her.
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>>2338003
But how will she produce an heir? Without one, she will be subject to court intrigue.
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>>2338006
Are you telling me hentai biology is incorrect?

https://e-hentai.org/g/1022794/928b27c9d2/
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>>2338006
>Magic
>Science
>Adoption
Choose one mate. Also this is why Yuri IPS is so fucking rare, guys like you have no imagination and simply go with "but they need an heir" excuse for whatever het subplot they want
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>>2338006
This is a setting where characters can spontaneously create meat mechas. I'm sure we could work science babies in there somewhere.
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>>2338020
Holy shit that was great. Both cute and sexy thank you!
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>>2338006
Hisu already has dozens of orphans under her wing, mate.
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>>2338021
I read Thomas Paine's Rights of Man recently and all he did was bitch about how the worst English kings weren't even English, like William III and George III. So I think the best thing she could do is abdicate and turn the government over to a republican system, that will guarantee the rights of titan-shifters and non-titan-shifters alike.
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>>2338045
Uh, there's a lot more than that in the Rights of Man.

Anyway, there hasn't been an English King since Harold Godwinson died at Hastings in 1066. England has since been ruled by French-Vikings (House of Normandy), French (Houses of Anjou, Plantagenet, and Lancaster, in that order), Welsh (House of Tudor), Scottish (House of Stuart), and lastly German (first the House of Hanover and finally the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, which changed its name to Windsor during WWI because it was deemed awkward to be fighting Germans while the King had a very German name). There's a supreme irony in the English taking pride in a monarchy that has never been English. William the Conqueror, conqueror of who, you might ask. Well...of the English.
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>>2325033
I was so sad that Ymir died... I hoped for my yuri ending with these two :c
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>>2338114
I still firmly believe she's alive. If only because she appeared in a shot that was supposed to prove Galliard has her memories.
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>>2338157
Her death felt weird to me. Like for starters Isayama could have used Reiner when he handed out the letter to Hange and flat out say she's gone but instead we have Galliard just use her memories to roast Reiner.

There's also the fact that most deaths are memorable in this manga and usually end near the end of the chapter for climax reasons. Her two panel death keeps making me forget she's even dead sometimes not to mention I think she was going to say something in that scene since her lips seem to be partly open.

But dragging a death confirmation for a character for 4 years and also that it still feels that we're going to get the full scene from that flashback later on just leaves me feeling as if there's more to this.
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>>2338157
Mostly Galliard having her jaw titan power is proof she is dead.
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>>2338042
Source on pic?
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>>2338384
It's from the twitter artist @vvv020vvv
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>>2338392
Thanks
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It's been a month since Ymir's death?

What is it that still keeps you guys here?
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>>2339389
I wish it was one month so I can get a chapter closer to Historia's reappearance. Plus the anime season isn't over yet and there's always new YH official content comming out. Even with Ymir dead the ship is still canon.

Why don't you ask the same question in the disney threads?
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>>2335447
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>>2340009
It's a really confirmed couple.
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>>2340009
That second pic though.

>Ymir looks like she wants to lay Historia down on a bed of roses and make gentle, sweet love to her
>Historia looks like she wants Ymir to push her down right there and then and go elbow deep inside
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>>2340134
Looks like with Ymir death they decided to up the YH moments everywhere.

It's sad to call it confirmed couple where Ymir got confirmed to be dead and now 4 years in the story passed for Historia without her and who knows she will end with now.
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>>2340227
Even though Ymir died, they are still a canon couple in this manga as could be another couple until the end. This is nothing new and we already knew that there was something between them well before Ymir disappears for 4 long years and finally confirmed dead. Ymir was really in love with her and Historia still loves her so much to respect her wish and standing tall. The only thing we don't know so far it's if they really confess their romantic feelings for each other during a time that we haven't seen yet. We know the true nature of their feelings but we may never know that because Isayama wanted to end up on this dramatic side for their relationship. I find it very beautiful but tragical.
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They would have lived together away from everyone else leaving their past behind. Sad. Ymir was Historia's dream.
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As always Ymir and Historia were put together in merchandise while everyone else are in groups of three.
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>>2342838
Cute!
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>>2342838
>Krista
Come on.
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So how Ymir not wasted her life and got her revenge by giving up her own life for enemy sake who changed her into titan in first place and gave them another shifter by doing so?
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>>2345703
Ymir's death was a mistake.
Seriously, she could have fucked Hisu until her death. She literally committed suicide for nothing like a fucking retard. Why Isayama kill a character with a great potential (he himself said that in a interview) like Ymir when he leaves alive other useless character like Sasha or Connie? It's just fucking ridiculous.
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