Are you okay with "darker" yuri? There's a cliche

The yuri fan's obsession with purity is more about having purely f/f relationships, not anything else.

Darker as in "crawling in my skin angsty" or darker as in "MC used to fuck dudes and then discover she's a lesbo"?

I'm not. Haven't encountered it well done, yet, though.

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I prefer darker yuri and wish there was more of it - I like the fluffy fun stuff too but a lot of it blends together eventually and can get boring if you're reading a whole bunch of stuff which all seems the same.

That said, if by "darker" you mean "does not contain purely f/f relationships", no I am not okay with that.

By dark do you guys mean relationship troubles?

The stuff people call "darker" usually just seems to mean "literally every character is an awful human being, especially the main character".

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The only thing I hate in yuri is bisexuality, girls who have been with or have an interest in men and retards who can't understand the concept that they might actually be a lesbian. Give me all the dead lesbians and cosmic horror, just don't give me the dick. Though cute and happy is ultimately more preferable.

There's always value in a story where shit goes bad, an unhappy ending is usually far more memorable than a happy one.

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Describe darker.
Like edgy murcielago stuff? Sure.
Weird bullying stories? Yeah those can be nice.
Guro and yandere? Yeah one of my favorites desu.
NSFW content in general? Yeah I like it on occasion, I don't get off to it but I can enjoy it depending on how its done. Not a fan of just smut, but that's cause there's no story and the art is generally aimed at helping people fap or whatever.
Delicious dark skinned dog girls on pale cat girls? fuck yes.

Angsty NTR/cheating crap? nope, hate that shit.

that said I am more into it on a purity sake. Not in a "everyone is a virgin and noone is allowed to grow up" meaning, but I just like nice cute romance without all the drama and baggage. sex is fine, i just don't like it being the sole point to everything.

>>2313330
>I think blacks and other dark-skinned races are extremely ugly in both mind and body
>I am totally okay with yandere, rape, incest, cheating
Wew lass

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I want all of my lesbians to be as pure as fresh snow. Bonus points if they live in a small, isolated village and have no idea what a penis is.

>>2313330
What is it about your comment that has gotten me distracted thinking about some sort of bizarre hillbilly /u/ idea. Like combine the idea of amazons with the racist as fuck innawords fuck your sister type white trash that drinks hooch of questionable origin only prettier because amazons.

>>2313334
You are now imagining two trailer-trash women with tank tops, tattoos and daisy dukes tribbing in the bed of a pickup truck while hurling racist insults at passersby.

>>2313334
>bizarre hillbilly /u/
> fuck your sister type white trash that drinks hooch of questionable origin

i feel truly bad that i want this

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>>2313320
And idiots like you should be eaten.

>>2313250
To answer OP's question it depends. I personally don't mind drama. I like stories where all seems lost and darkness encroaches because it makes the heroes light shine brighter.

But if it angsty bullshit like a girl cheating on her girlfriend or gratuitous rape with no real purpose than fuck that noise. More often than not it's handled poorly and comes off as pointless to the overall story. Just there cause muh drama.

It takes a skilled hand to craft a story that's dark but not edgy or gritty purely for being edgy or gritty.

>>2313320
this desu

>>2313346
>a girl cheating on her girlfriend
I'm surprised to see this mentioned so often

>>2313355
it happens way too often for anyone's pleasure.

>>2313357
I can think of octave. what else? dynasty has 4 pages with the cheating tag and most of it is the manga NTR and Mira's off-kilter porn comics.

>>2313360
I don't recall the names since I usually drop it the moment it happens and try to wipe the memory.
But I've read more than a few that end up having that plot usually stuff with angst tagged on them, then there's the ones that happen while its not technically cheating but the "oh I love her... but I'll go fuck this dude for no reason" type things as well which I include in the same category, and it happens quite often.
Not often enough that its the norm by any means, but often enough that I get annoyed with it.

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>>2313355
Lesbians being cheated on usually for a guy, and thus having all sorts of disturbing subtext.

Lesbians getting shot or otherwise dying etc. There's a reason why TvTropes used to call it Dead Lesbian Syndrome. The youngsters might not know this but lesbians in particular didn't get to live long in most media a decade or so ago and beyond.

It shouldn't be to difficult to understand why for a good portion of us we are wary when we here "dark" in association with a lesbian story despite what some>>2313320 >>2313352 might think.

>>2313363
>despite what some anons might think.
Blame the faggots that equate males=dark story. Purists do it though admittedly they do always come out and say it. OP phrasing their question didn't help either since idiots are now thinking in such terms.

God is it so hard to imagine that there can be dark themes without any of the purist shite. A series of pics involving a yandere kidnapping her female victim and then re-enacting Misery with a romantic tinge is dark.

>>2313363
>Lesbians being cheated on usually for a guy, and thus having all sorts of disturbing subtext
I bet the majority of those works weren't Yuri in the first place
>Tvtropes
Western works doesn't count as yuri.

>>2313363
>that art

gonna need the eye bleach

>>2313365
>A series of pics involving a yandere kidnapping her female victim and then re-enacting Misery with a romantic tinge is dark.
I really want something like this.

>>2313361
What if it's cheating with a girl and is part of the plot? Just hypothetically speaking, how would you feel about that?

>>2313370
I hate it just as much, I wasn't being specific about it being a guy. (which is why you may have had a different notion about the amount of doujins involving it when I said that)
Cheating drama is just awful in general. Its the worst.

>>2313366
Sure thing champ, how's the eastern equivalent of "how do I know if I haven't slept with a guy?" You know the one that's prevalent.

>>2313373
er yuri* not doujins. though I guess doujins have it periodically

>>2313373
>Cheating drama is just awful in general. Its the worst.
At least it's different. I can't think of it between girls aside from WDTFS, but that one is poorly written

>>2313365
Yes.

>>2313366
No. First TvTropes does have a list of anime/manga and I specifically used the word lesbian note yuri cause I know there are people like you who get anal about the term yuri being used to describe anything with lesbian content. Although that is a discussion for another time.

Yuri is about two (or sometimes more) girls bonding in one way or another. Does the "darkness" take away from the dynamic of the two girls bonding? Yes? Then I don't like it. No? Then it can be as "dark" as it wants. Straightforward.

>>2313377
There's a few i can think of just not the names.

that one with the loli and the teacher had a random arc with it that really pissed me off (though I hear it was dropped and ignored i never did go back to read it)
things involving college age girls tend to love to throw a random lesbian rapist in there to "comfort" one of the love interests after a fight

I just hate that type stuff, maybe I'm too pure but cheating and that all always drives a spike through my heart.

>>2313373
Truth by Namori is a masterpiece.

>>2313373
Fair enough, sister, I was just curious how specific that was for you.

>>2313337
It's that sort of feeling that reminds you that you are still on 4chan even if you're on one of the least 4chany boards.

>>2313383
i remember that one. very schizophrenic story

>>2313337
Me too maybe not full hill billy but hill Billy's hot daughter?

Sun kissed skin, light freckles, red or blonde hair in twin braids and large breasts in a flannel cropped shirt that barely fits. Unabashedly flirts with her equally sexy sisters, or city slicker female cousins.

Or if we want to go dark how about going full "The Hills have Eyes" except instead of grotesque inbred mutants they're sexy inbred lesbian mutants who have evolved to breed women who are exposed to their vaginal secretions.

What I dislike about purity in yuri is that it means vanilla is the most common type of lewd

My favorite stuff tends to revolve around sadomasochism or D/s and man there is a severe lack of good content for that

>>2313401
>Sun kissed skin, light freckles, red or blonde hair in twin braids and large breasts in a flannel cropped shirt that barely fits.
How would she feel about exhibitionism and small clothes in general?

>>2313401
I kinda wanna go for the latter, with an added touch of amazonianness that is a bit more subdued instead of bulky and has granted them supreme innawoods skills and lets them wield guns and sneak around way better than mortal men.

>>2313250
I have nothing against drama in general, but I dislike love triangles (even if all-female), NTR (because this lends itself to dislikable characters), or gayngst (even a comedic "b-but we're both girls!" will elicit an eye roll from me). Basically, I prefer any conflict to be not directly related to the romance.

>>2313436
She'd be confident enough in her sexuality to not mind if other people saw her but heaven forbid anyone who so much as looks at one of her kin/lovers.

>>2313451
Also delightful.

>>2313451
How tall would they be? Somewhere in the 6' range to keep with the subdued theme?
>>2313457
Sounds like she'd lack shame and wouldn't mind if some girls saw her nips or if her pussy peeked out from under her shorts.

>>2313454
> I prefer any conflict to be not directly related to the romance
Like being stuck in a warzone or a post-apocalyptic wasteland?

>>2313462
Not one is under 6' but most are within an inch or so of that, aside from the most alpha of leaders who probably edge up towards 7'.

Also full-blown exhibitionism would be a norm should female witnesses be the only potential ones, but sneaky risky sex in public would also be fine, though any male who doesn't get intimidated off or tries anything is in for major trouble should they stick around.

I really loved Oniisama e despite the way it treated lesbians being very typical of the time(and despite the hilarious melodrama). It helps that it came from Riyoko Ikeda and that she just liked making her characters suffer in general.

I prefer it when the relationship itself isn't dark and angsty, if it is then it has to be really well executed. External drama or either/both characters having complexes they have to work through is what I like best.

>>2313250
>I was wondering if it was for the most part true.
It's my preference but if a yuri work ends up being good in other ways I'll still read it.

>>2313250
I love dark stories (most of the time I try to write something, it end up like that). But I rarely read them in general because of how awful most edgy stories are.

People should realize dark isn't the same as shock value.

>>2313463
>Like being stuck in a warzone or a post-apocalyptic wasteland?
Or a time loop.

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I would die for some Warhammer Yuri stuff, but it'll never happen.

>>2313382
Hoshikawa Ginza Yonchome? That chapter was so fucking idiotic and the blame is entirely on Kurogane Ken for being a hack at writing anything cohesive. That chapter stops short of cheating on a technicality but like you said it leaves a bad taste.

>>2313250
I really like sad yuri, stuff like this https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/dusk_orange_the_blooming_flowers
really sums how I like it sad, NTR sucks though

>>2313250

/u/ has always liked darker and more serious stories, as kong as it isn't tumblr art. More than a week of lurking would have told you that

Why do we have more and more newfag threads these days

>>2313762
I think /tg/ has produced some stuff.

>>2313762
>>2313784
There's very little and I think most of the /tg/ stuff involves cultist-cwan. I know there is a pic in the drawthread that's wh40k related.

>>2313762
Do you have time for romance, let alone yuri when shit like evil spess mehreens serving vegetative emperor, eviler spess mehreens serving chaos gods, hungry bugs, blue weeb space commies, Egyptian terminator, smug spehss elves, spess elves that into BDSM, and warlike fungus with cockney accent roam around?

And that's just major player in the galaxy, obscure horrors like q'orl, umbra, thyrrus, hrud, or rak'gol still exists to fuck you up

Also, xenos love is extremely heretical

>>2313800
It depends on where you are in the galaxy and what faction you're on and also what your species is.

There are plenty of planets in the IoM that are just as nice if not nicer than our current day Earth. As long as you do your job and venerate the Emperah, one is pretty much free to do most things one would want to do.

>>2313800
But it's canon that Sisters of Battle work under the soeur system. Really, my main objection to dark WH yuri is the "dark" part rather than the yuri. 40k never really tried to be glum and depressing, despite attempts by recent writers, it's all about intentionally hamfisted drama and over-the-top bloodshed.

In fact, being all about hamfisted, forced drama, WH40k if anything is more suited to yuri than many other settings. Can you imagine the angst when the bookish, by-the-rules Inquisitor's girlfriend turns out to be not just a xeno, but a rogue C'tan shard at that? Does she do the right thing and deliver her to her higher-ups so that the galaxy is a safer place, or does she avoid Imperial suspicion and Necron headhunters to protect their love above everything?

I have an ever lowering tolerance for melodrama and bad ends brought about for no other reason than an over reliance on tropes.

I have enough misery in my life that I don't need to be introducing more of it in the escapist media I consume. For that reason I tend to only mess with anime that have just enough conflict to keep things interesting, but not any more than that.

And I don't really care about purity. For as long as the author doesn't mess with your expectations by introducing potential male love interests to sabotage the yuri, the girls could've been dicked a thousand times prior to starting their relationship and I wouldn't care. I might not even care if there's a polyamorous ffm relationship, on condition that the progression goes straight -> bi, rather than gay -> bi/straight. Basically, if the girl is being awoken to the magic of cock, I'm not interested because it's just conversion fetish at that point.

>>2313810
I think that the best part is that 40k lets one dodge the whole "but we're both girls" and other such gayngst. At least if one is Imperial and both parties are human loyalists.

Chaos obviously doesn't give a fuck and the deldar probably also don't give a fuck. Not sure about the Craftworlds or whatever the fuck the hippy eldar were called. Doubt the Tau can be trusted either..

>>2313818
Regular eldar force themselves into switching between different social roles so that they don't go insane and create another Slaanesh out of boredom, but sometimes they like one role so much that they can't change out of it, so it's entirely possible to have a Lily Exarch who is so devoted to yuri that she's been drawing, writing and animating it for the past 5000 years. Mira is very probably one.

Tau don't have good yuri potential though, it's 100% arranged marriage for them. Though it's likely that they discovered science babies so you can have a plot where two bitter rivals/childhood friends are set to marry each other.

>>2313810
Fantasy is alot darker. The Yuri couple would probably be burned at the stalk by a witch hunter.

>>2313808
>As nice as present day earth
Maybe if you're one of the nobility or a rogue trader

That said, Ultramar system and Nocturne is pretty nice, Fenris might count too if you're a barbarian

>>2313810
B-but anon, SoB are Grey Knight's punching bag. They have penitent engine though

>Can you imagine the angst when the bookish, by-the-rules Inquisitor's girlfriend turns out to be not just a xeno, but a rogue C'tan shard at that?

Hunted by almost all factions? sounds nice
>Imperium tried to hunt her for various reasons, Inquisitors want to weaponize her to fight chaos, Mechanicus would want her for """Science"""
>Necron hunt her for obvious reason
>Nids' want to devour her and get dem bitc... biomass for the hivemind
>Dark Eldar wants her because Vect is a massive dickhead
>Orks want her because she's one shiny gubbinz, and the closest thing to enuff dakka

But, I think a story about Rogue Trader's daughter will be fit for yuri, you can have your cute ojou protagonist with minimal cybernetic enhancement exploring things and discovering forbidden xeno lore

>>2313831
The Imperium, or at the very least the Martian Priesthood, have cloning. Wouldn't be too much of a stretch by even the IoM's degraded tech that they have more than enough of a tech level for a couple that manages to live on a nice planet or is important enough or does something important enough to have science babies.

That or space magic does something weird via regular ass space magic or weird SoB faith space magic and you get magic babies. It's not hard to make up excuses for things.

>>2313250
Depends on what you mean by dark.

Like someone else said I like stuff like Murciélago.

And I don't mind stuff like lesbian rape (or pseudo rape) and BDSM.

The one thing I can't stand is males in any sexual situation in my yuri. Please, don't add creepy old men and male rapists, that is the biggest turn off.

>>2313838
I'm pretty sure that niceness was stated as being for anyone on those planets. 40k just likes to emphasize the shitholes planets that more often than not have some sort of conflict going on.

Also I'd rather a rogue trader protag that is full on CAPITALISM HO! for the Emperah that has a Writ of Trade that is oddly wide enough in what it permits to keep the Inquisition off her ass as long as she isn't an idiot.

Got quite a few people trying to present their dislike of stuff as though there were an objective basis for thinking it's bad rather than a case of them being frail. They'll say something about how it's cliche, or it's just done for the sake of doing it, or it wasn't written well enough, etc. And you just know they'll eat up fluff, holding it to completely different standards and even deluding themselves into thinking it was better written.

>>2313363
That comic was kinda the border line for me and I enjoyed it (wish it continued though cause the ending was sad =( ). I enjoy darker themes like corruption and mc as long as the characters are happy by the end.

>>2313966
Please don't use emoticons

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>>2313966
Yeah the ending hurt but at least Gwen resolved to find the Prison Girl after she gets into her body again.

Personally I think Gwen should have stayed in Charmcaster's body and vice versa.

On an unrelated note I once read a dark Dead or Alive fic where a clone of Kasumi fell in love with Ayane. It was on Shojo Ai so I don't know if it can even be found.

Suffice to say the clone's life was short tragic and only the real Kasumi ever learned the truth.

If your idea of "darker" is "girl gets raped by men" or "het drama gets in the way of girls being together" then fuck off.

Otherwise, game on.

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>>2313250
The "darkness" of a work is not really something I think about. I just like when yuri takes it's subject matter a bit more seriously. Focusing on the emotional side and going for a more grounded take on how the characters experience their sexuality and how they come into terms with it is something I really enjoy reading about. I'm fine if a story goes into darker places in order to deliver this, but dark for the sake of being dark comes off to me as just trying too hard. Het/male characters are a part of real life and thus I think it is completely fine to include them in yuri stories that aim for a more realistic tone. I find that female authors are usually the ones that write more grounded works whereas male authors focus more on the overly pure type of depiction that I don't mind but I don't find that engaging either, or just the usual "girl on girl is hot" type of deal which I personally don't find much value in.

That being said I do enjoy yuri with lighter tones as well. Lighthearted and sugary stuff where gay couples seem to be nothing out of the ordinary are kind of progressive in their own way now that I think about it.

More dark stuff would be great. But happy ending pls and the lesbians don't die

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Watch Onisama, e...

I translate yuri scat.
I wonder where I went wrong.

>>2314271
I suppose that is a dark side of yuri as well.

First I think you have to understand what is realistic and dark, I personally hate realism, it's basically "porn for rich people" for me (School Days is Realistic)

Thinking a dark story with yuri, do not go too far, remember Izetta?
War, death, treason, Nazis, revenge and other fun things from a war story

>>2314108
>Watch Onisama, e...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6DAxC6wp70

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>>2314366
>School Days
>realistic

>Izetta
>dark

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>>2314366
>I personally hate realism, it's basically "porn for rich people"
Eh?

>>2314376
Hostel could best exemplify this point (Yes, that's realistic)

>>2314370
If you've spent more than 50% of your time away from a room, you may realize that the vast majority of love affairs are no different from those seen in that piece of shit called Shool Days... We live in a worse world than many people think

>>2314002
This

>""realistic"" "romance"
>TAAIYOUKEEEI WO NUKEDASHITEEEE

I in fact prefer darker yuris. Purity fags should just accept to stay in their lane and not shit on the threads that they don't like. I just like angst. Also I don't mind girls dating a guy, as long as there is no het sex scene and the girl ends up with a girl and not him

>>2314383
>We live in a worse world than many people think
Shhh don't burst their bubble.

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>>2313333
excellent taste

>>2314300
But all yuri scat I've seen is unambiguously positive and full of characters that unconditionally love and support each other.

Nowhere do you see some girl leaving her girlfriend because her feces are low-quality and her ex-girlfriend's shit was so much tastier.

>>2314500
Well like with most fetish porn there's not much relationship building to it in general so there's not going to be much drama.

It was just a joke though, since scat is dark and stuff. ya know?

Reading through the thread made me realize that people define "dark" different than I what I thought was agreed upon. Like delving in the frailty of human morality. It's like an umbrella theme for me. From political intrigue to mass genocide for the "greater good" to keeping love interests as hostages. It's all under there, I think.

But yeah, I'd really want more dark yuri. Preferably in a fantasy setting. Where characters have conflicting ideals and motivations, doing terrible things that make the other think "why do I love this person again?" but they continue loving that person anyway. That sort of stuff. This is probably why I like Himeko and Chikane so much.

Mundane stuff like cheating and bullying is fine, but I want something different.

>>2314740
So more in the vein of what OP was actually asking? I could dig it. I'd love to see an antihero story where it's obvious the heroine is a villain and her girl is either corrupted or working with her from the beginning. Big bonus points if it's moral degeneration over straight corruption.

>>2314740
Moral gray is the stuff you want. "Dark" as a term is excessively broad and poorly defined.

>>2314366
>it's basically "porn for rich people" for me

This makes no sense.

>>2314749
I don't think I'd like following a protagonist who's an outright villain, but I would enjoy reading about one who has an altruistic goal in mind, but is willing to go to lengths that others aren't, slowly drawing all her friends and allies into that downward spiral.

More anti-hero than villain, in other words.

>>2314758
Good distinction. I think it'd be, for me, more that while the "villain" has something good in mind she knows damn well that at most levels of perception she comes off as the villain because of what she's doing. Even if it is to bring change or whatever. Maybe she occasionally revels in it or not.

>>2314758
>not want an objectively villainous MC doing objectively villainous things to establish an Independent Yuri Queendom or something like that

>>2314764
>implying wanting to establish a Yuri Queendom makes someone villainous

What does /u/ think of Gunjo? I found it very intriguing, though the MC's are both kinda shit people.

>>2314766
Social upheaval and the chaos it causes with power vacuums tend to cause destabilization until the queendom cements and fills the power gap. These are the things our glorious Queen would have to be aware of when she makes her move.

>>2314766
It would be like those privilege police copypasta from /pol/

>>2314740
I think people misunderstood the question because of how common shitty DARK and SERIOUS writing is. More often than not, if a man has a 'dark past' it involves a dead woman, and if a woman has a 'dark past' it involves her being raped.

The word 'dark' is associated with terrible writing in many people's minds.

>>2314774
>"You there! Stop. You haven't seen a dangerous heterosexual pass by, have you? They're dangerous and could look just like you and me! Stay safe and report any deviants to the Lily Sentinels. We're here for your safety. Any young lady not feeling safe at night can find comfort at the nearest watchpost."

>>2314784
Yeah, we're not all working from the same definition here.

With the sheer amount of yuri which is basically low-level drama or pure fluff, I thought of the question as encompassing a wide range of other genres and plots. Which I'd like to see more of, because while stories about schoolgirls having lesbian crushes or random hijinks are fun, I want more variety out of my cartoon lesbians.

>>2313250
As long as it's a happy ending, yes.
>boohoo it's not realistic
2D lesbians aren't either, you mouthbreather

>>2314749
OP's wording is actually non-specific.

>>2314751
Yes, because grey morality leads to interesting characters and plot lines. And I'm guilty of wanting characters suffer before they get their happy endings.

>>2314784
Hm. Good point. "Dark" is a pretty wide term, too.

If anybody has a story with a dark/abusive/SM/gore/torture yuri relationship,please :3

I like that kind of thing.

>>2314922
>abusive/SM/gore/torture yuri relationship
JCJK?

>>2313815
I kinda agree with this. As long as it ends girl/girl I wouldn't mind

>>2313923
This anon knows
They'll spew crap and tell you that you have "shit taste" yet when they talk about their "ideal" and "perfect" yuri, it's the blandest, devoid of any actual plotting moe shit.

>>2314027
I also like my yuri to be a bit realistic

>>2313250
The only thing I can't stand in ""yuri"" is the author backpedalling and going for a het end.
Otherwise I'm not necessarily bothered by controversial stuff like rape, violence, het sex (only if het is not endgame or it only concerns a side couple), NTR etc. It all depends on the execution.

>>2313923
Or, or most dark stories are objectively shit. Dark, horror and comedy are probably the hardest genres to write for without delving into the exploitative or gratuitous.

Frankly I wouldn't mind seeing a dark fantasy yuri in the same vein as Berserk. Just maybe with a little less rape if only because I'm not into yuri to see a bunch of guys/monsters brutalize girls.

I honestly see enough of that when trying to look up stuff on well any Hentai site ever.

>>2315092
Well, Claymore has a crappy world and is full of girls, but I don't think it has any /u/ content.

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Yeah I like variety and stories that are 100% fluffy romance aren't usually my favorite, though they can be great when you're looking for something cozy.
I wish there were more yuri works exploring different genres. Like some anons said, dark is a wide term.

>>2315097
It has. If you imagine hard enough. Also Claire/Ophelia, best couple.

>>2315097
>>2315551
There's an official omake showing that Jean was into Clare.

Plus a bunch of subtext couples.

It could have easily gone full /u/.

I do want to see a fluffy yuri story sets in a spoopy setting, with spirits, ayylmaos, spoopy cosmic abominations, and such. main couple should be humans obviously.

The most important part is the ending. Not a big fan of happy ending, Downer would be preferred, action taken should have consequences either on the surrounding or the protagonists themselves.

>>2315623
I want a yuri story where the protagonists are cosmic horrors. Kinda like that Nyarlko anime but not total shit.

>>2315626
>Still no SoL Bloodborne anime

>>2313250
i hate pointless shock value garbage
if a story is dark but actually goes somewhere then i'm fine with that

By dark do you mean edgy het-rape-cheating or "really" dark?

I thought this was kinda dark, no?
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/division_girl_1

>>2314769
I like it but at the same time I don't.

>>2315626
Too many tentacles

>>2315656
That was pretty nice actually, do they do anything else?
It looks similar to some other stuff I've read actually but not seeing anything else pop up under that name.

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>>2313250
I like darkness and edge when it suits the story and setting and isn't just scholoky, snuff shit like Gunjo or Akame ga Kill, or overdone like Game of Thrones. Basically stuff like Warhammer 40k, Doom, Murcielago, Black Lagoon and Berserk/Soulsborne are good, and most of my interests outside of /u/ is as far from "pure and innocent" as you can get, and I'm sure the same is true for a fair number of yurifags. Naturally I'd love it if more Yuri in those sort of settings were a thing. Like a yuri in a dark fantasy/gothic horror setting, or more yuri blood operas like the Girls with Guns trilogy.

When the "darkness" amounts to lesbians getting raped/fucked by dudes I automatically write it off on general principle.

>>2316388
I agree with everything you said there, sister, but I have to have a little giggle at describing Game of Thrones as "overdone" right next to Warhammer 40k.

I don't mind yuri with more mature themes or yuri that's present in a dark or unpleasant setting, but I really dislike anything that features true non-consensual material. And I don't mean "she says no at first but secretly likes it", I mean stories where a girl is actually being violated and traumatized. Some people enjoy reading about that shit, but it's really not my cup of tea.

>>2313250
I know the general consensus is that people like well done serious and dark stuuf, but honestly, there's so little schlocky or over the top or grimdark yuri stuff that I want more of that. Give me more Murcielago's and Happy Sugar Life's. It's easy to digest and often lends itself well to power fantasy, which is something really lacking in /u/.

>>2316092
I'm glad you liked it!
Well, on Dynasty they only have one thing. Goggled Anon tells us Shimazaki is a he, I believe she is from /u/, no? So maybe she knows more.
https://dynasty-scans.com/authors/shimazaki
The scanlator is listed as /u/ scanlations, so you could try asking in the scanlation thread.
>>2265641
BakaUpdates tells us he is the artist for 1 other manga. But that one is not like his own work, it's not even yuri.
https://www.mangaupdates.com/authors.html?id=19363
But, MAL comes to the rescue! They tell us his twitter, pixiv, and doujin circle (and even his birthday).
https://myanimelist.net/people/37259/shimazaki

Twitter: https://twitter.com/shimazaki1152
Pixiv: https://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=818290
Doujin circle: Ryemugibatake wo Tsukamaeru Shigoto (ライ麦畑を捕まえる仕事, To Catcher The Rye)

>>2313250
Depends, if it's well thought-out and fits in with the context I'm all for it. But if it feels forced it's no good, of course too much dark stuff becomes bland and the pure and innocence is nice from time to time.

>>2316551
Remove your name

>>2316511
I worded that badly yeah. I meant more that Warhammer 40k's grimdarkness is over the top enough that it actually works since it focuses on the violence and atmosphere. GoT on the otherhand is all gratuitous sex, rape, and soap opera bullshit, with the occasional death to get people talking. The Walking Dead is the same way, except replace the sex and rape with even more soap opera shit and pointless character deaths that literally serve no other purpose other than watercooler talk and ratings stunts.

>>2316511
Not them, but its more about the reasoning behind it as opposed to how ridiculous things are.
i,e, warhammer is ridiculously over the top, but in a fun way because its not done for shock value or to make you feel depressed. Its done for excitement.
meanwhile game of thrones or akame ga kill just throw rape in murder in there to cause shock value which gets old really quickly.

>>2315551
>>2315097
>>2315610
Man, I miss Claymore.

>>2316388
I like my yandere general from Akame ga Kill though.

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>>2317379
She was the one silver lining of the show, too bad she was tragically straight. Pretty much every girl in AgK was god-tier and deserved to be in something better.

>>2313250
The feling we all must endure that shit mark me.

Now I want H. P. Lovecraft yuri.

>>2323946
A lesbian version of Ane Naru Mono would be nice, actually.

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What does /u/ think of pic related? I thought it was a fun mix of cute fluffy yuri and edge.

>>2313250
Meh I read anything with yuri. Whether it's innocence or dark I'll read it. It doesn't bother me.

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>dark yuri
You had it coming, onee-sama.
There is the darkest yuri ever made, every person who had read it wish to forget it. There will be no turning back, so do not complain later we didn't warn you.

Oh how foolish those who don't appreciate what they already have, who wish to break their purity and dive into the darkness.
-onee-sama

>>2314474
This. So many people kept saying

>AS LONG AS THERE NO PENUS REEE

The replies feels the same to me.

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For me, I like darker yuri that's got four rules: No dick no cheating, no rape, and no dying. It sounds alot harder then it really is to make a good, dark story without this shit. Everything from abuse, to mental illness, suicidal tendencies, drug addictions, and everything I'm forgetting! I'd LOVE to see a nihlistic yuri about a drug-addicted girl and her severely b.p.d. girlfriend (who could totally be an alcaholic with accurate portrayals for even more drama) trying to cope with theirselves and each other, as their relationship spirals out of control ending with a breakup after a full-out abuse scene. BDSM and dommmination could be a common theme throughout the show, as sex is used to manipulate and control the victim, however the abuser character never really crosses the line to rape, and shames the victim for not having sex with them. For the ending, imagine a photo being thrown across the room of happier times, shattering as the victim kneel crying as her girlfriend continues bellowing insults and grabbing her hair and pushing her until realizing what they're doing after seeing the photograph, and storms out. Victim girlfriend gets up and considers over dousing on her drugs, as she's afraid of her girlfriends return, but instead goes to bed to cry herself to sleep and wake up with a note in the morning depicting her partners leaving. It's softer victim-blaming then what would have been apparent earlier in the series, as the abuser is now self-aware but also still theirselves, and leaves the drug-addicted girlfriend to cry. Camera pan over the apartment area the entire show would have taken place in, and then bam--black screen. Unclear if either of the characters gets help, unclear if they've got anyone to really turn to, all that's there is the unhealthy relationship has ended and the two have to start from an even cleaner slate then the beginning of the show.

>>2313306
So then you'll never read a realistic take on yuri?

>>2313333
So you basically want children?

>>2323946
I could dig this. Something like Bloodborne but with lesbians or something where the Eldritch Horror has a female avatar or lead cultist or both. And all the sexual innuendo inherent in the genre involves lesbian sex.

>>2341616
Care to elaborate? Not that anon but I might be taking this in a way other than intended, or I hope I am.

>>2341632
I think they're just suggesting that heterosexual side couples need to have a role in the story for it to be realistic or something. I've seen that opinion a few times around here. I think it's a load of crap.

>>2323946
There's Dear My Abyss if you can into moon.

>>2341656
I can't speak for others who have shared similar sentiments, but I've pretty much only advocated het side couples in fanworks that are longer than mere one-shots or have the main couple isolated from other pairings for whatever reason.

However for original media, it just kinda depends on the sort of cast you got.

>>2326822
I liked it once I had calmed down.

>>2326822
Nope, I enjoyed it from start to finish.

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>>2341656
I've had a few arguments on /u/ about this so if that's one of the ones you're referring to.
Mines less that they need to be there, it just helps make the world seem less forced.
A story that doesn't involve other people can still be realistic, but when a world is entirely gay it is less realistic.

But I mean, its not like being realistic is a goal that you should be going for, realism isn't the reason people read gay lesbian webcomics.

>>2313508
Oooh, this could actually be interesting if done right.
Like the MC falling for [Insert random cute girl here], but can't actually advance her relationship normally due to MC being in a Groundhog Day-esc situation. However, [Insert Cute Girl Here] slowly starts remembering what happens during these loops, and slowly gets closer to MC. It would make for a rather interesting plot line of MC trying to gain the admiration of a girl who, at most, can only barely remember the events that transpired in the previous loop and MC's name.
>Would /u/ read something like this? I wonder.

>>2341913
Was actually referring to Madoka.

>>2335424
>Reads whole thing out loud.
....I NEEEEED IIIIITTTTT

>>2341913
Isn't that basically the plot of "50 First Dates" but with lesbians?