>"If God is all powerful, then he cannot be all good.

I wonder why Kathleen the cunt even hired Terrio when he's just going to get fired anyways.

>>87848932
>middle school philosophy vs unfunny quips
all capeshit is terrible OP

how would marvel/disney handle the first encounter banter between supes and bats?

>dc: Next time they shine your light in the sky, don't go to it. The bat is dead, bury it. Consider this mercy.
>tell me, do you bleed? - you will

>marvel/disney: uh im putting you on time out
>you and what army?

>>87848980
The philosophy in BvS is mostly a smokescreen to hide the character's geniune intentions. Lex exposes himself over and over again.

>it's a /tv/ pretends a shitty movie is good episode

>>87849018
>I bet your parents taught you that you mean something, that you're here for a reason. My parents taught me a different lesson, dying in the gutter for no reason at all... They taught me the world only makes sense if you force it to.

>I'm sure your daddy told you that one day you'll be a famous Baseball player, too bad kid because I've already scored a homerun!

>>87848932
You know that the guy who wrote that now works for Disney right? I mean, you'll have to calm down with the false flagging now

>>87848932
I honestly don't understand why people hate BvS as much as they do. It's no masterpiece but it's amazing for capeshit and better than anything marvel have come out with. It's at least a 7/10

>look mommy i can philosophy

>>87848932
The difference between kino an a flick.

>>87849258
>>87849078
who are you quoting?

>>87849281
OP and Zack Snyder

>>87849018
>>tell me, do you bleed? - you will
I still can't believe writing this terrible is real

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>implying it's not chilly as fuck
Mavel nu-male won't understand the meaning of an insult and threat weaved into one though.

>>87848932
>>"If God is all powerful, then he cannot be all good. And if he is all good, he cannot be all powerful."
*tip*

For /tv/ to be impressed, just go to brainyquotes.com and start at philosophy.

You now have most of your monologues and inane speeches sorted.

You're also about 14 years old at best.

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>>87848980
This.
If OP thinks the BVS quote is any way insightful or deep he's a child impressed by basic philosophy.

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>>87849525
It is. It exposes the ignorance of militant atheism and the hypocrsiy of it.

>>87849580
found the christian

>>87849419
These people aren't /tv/ though
its been confirmed time after time

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Literally too smart for Marvel capeshitters

>>87849580
of course christ cucks are the ones stupid enough to enjoy this movie

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>>87850598
Go away marvel muslim

>>87850744
>Dr. Husain is Captain Britain!

Get on i09's facebook now, some faggot is trying shit on Based Russos and claiming Gunn is better lol i wanna call him DC pajeet to but watch them ban me

>dc: Time is not a thing, thus nothing which is, and yet it remains constant in its passing away without being something temporal like the beings in time.

>marvel: I'm iron pickle!

>>87850935
iron pickle is in the house tonight!

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kino

>>87851101
needs Ant-Man with orange slices

>>87848980
this

>>87850598
we've been a Christian board since Trump won

>>87851247
Awful colors like every Marlel flick

>>87848932
>Plagiarizing a Latin philosopher from 2000 years ago
>smart

Yeah, no.

>>87848932
>>87849240
>>87849359
>Edgy and entry-level philosophy or lol reddit quips
Not sure which is worse. Both a cringe inducing. The Dr. Strange quip is good though.

>>87851247
You even included the flying lawn mower.

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>>87850882
How's this?

>>87851247
You're not wrong
its like the early work of mekas

>>87851247
normally this makes any movie look good but this actually looks pretty bad

>>87850882
People """hate"""" Civil War because of how successful it is, that guy's just baiting

>whats your superpower
>Im le rich

>i need ... friends xD

>>87851101
>you're too strong to be trusted!
vs
>we need to be held accountable for our actions and serve the people by being maintained and controlled by the words governments!
>no, we need to go above and beyond the law to do what is best and what is right, and that means not obeying or swearing allegiance to a government entity due to conflict of interests

>>87851400
>it broke the Avengers
It fucking ended with one guy scratching his knee. The status quo was preserved. It's such a garbage filler movie.

>>87851509
I loved Captain ISIS in that movie. Rules of course doesn't apply to him because he knows what's right. How does he know what's right? Because he is always right.

This is the logic these films operate under. Circular nonsensical garbage that after one second of thinking all fall aparts.

>>87851524
Here we go, the point was that the Avengers were shaking to the core and are no longer a team because of divergent philosophical approaches, if you cant get that i dont know what to tell you

>>87851400
>unironically using facebook and posting your facebook opinions on 4chan

>>87851616
Yeah, no. I only use it to shut down trolls.

>>87851584
That can be applied to anyone who puts on a mask to fight crime though.

>>87851673
;-)

>>87851595
The divergent "philosophy" thing was so shallow the writers had to asspull another brainwash plot tool to justify a forced conflict.

When in doubt, just have someone brainwashed. No need for logic or character building. Just brainwash him and make him to do something stupid while also maintaining his moral good. Bravo!

>Marvel:
Is not this simpler? Is this not your natural state? It's the unspoken truth of humanity that you crave subjugation. The bright lure of freedom diminishes your life's joy in a mad scramble for power, for identity. You were made to be ruled. In the end, you will always kneel.
>DC
Save Martha!

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>>87851691
Superman struggles in BvS precisely because of this. He is no longer sure on what is right. While Marvels draw an absolute line between right or wrong, BvS instead emphasizes on how good actions leading to diresome consequences may not be so good after all. I can't think of anything in Marvel that operates on this level of introspection. Again, right is right and wrong is wrong. There is nothing there to discuss.

Superman is pushed to the point of almost abandoning his cause because every action he commits to is somehow manipulated by others into something bad. No matter the best intentions, he still ends up making bad. Steve Rogers of course operates under the code that is he right no matter what and luckily for him the Marvel world is willing to bend over to serve his ignorance. A cartoon world bending to cartoon characters. How insulting.

>>87851892
MARVEL BTFO

>>87848932
Being all powerful doesn't mean someone has to do bad with it. This argument is stupid.

>>87851892
Did we watch the same movies? Pretty sure you're giving BvS and MoS a little too much credit. Even if it explores these details, and poorly and briefly grazes by to make it seem like its doing heavy philosophy to make people think, but falls short of actually doing it. Of course this vein effort will be praised by fan boys

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>>87849018
DC:
>*silence*

Marvel:
>oooooooookay. Awkward!

>>87851892
Yeah their is clearly no bias in those descriptions whatsoever..

>>87848932
>if God is all powerful, he cannot be all good
What? How does this make any sense?

Literally 3deep5me

>>87851997
What makes you think that? Other than saying that it's stupid.

>>87851892
So
cap= classic 4chan
super= shitskin neo4chan

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>>87848932

>>87851892
>DCuck Delusions

>>87852179
Kek

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>>87852061
Maybe we didn't? Because the BvS I watched, had Superman abandon his world and decided to search for clarity where no other people are. There he was reminded of a past conversation with his father who also shares a story of him with the best intentions ending up harming others anyways. Clark asks him how he managed to live knowing that and he replies with the love of his mother. This gives Clark clarity on what really matters and he returns to Metropolis to save the woman he loves, who will act as his link to mankind.

Furthermore, Bruce lacks this father figure which also enables him to sink deeper and deeper into grief building up imaginary enemies around him. Perhaps this is what Clark would've turned out without his father's guidance. This sort of insight into character is what makes BvS great. It approaches them with raw honesty and properly rebuilds them into stronger people.

>I bet your parents taught you you are special

5 minutes later

>Martha? Why did you say that name?

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>>87851735
>tfw he used that monologue on all the young women he raped

>>87852286
Might aswell post the scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXsqsZ7xbjM

Look how Jonathan's story lines up with what has happened to Clark in the film. Also note the following scene of Bruce in the family house dwelling in the absense of his father.

>>87848932
>"That's my father's shield"
>turns to the camera
>"Make sure you tune in to Agents of Shield's epic Final Episode this Thursday on ABC and watch The Winter Soldier on his last mission!"

That was a strange scene, don't know what marvel was doing with that.

>>87852286
>>87852404
And you consider this good writing?

This is one of the most cookie cutter and overused tropes in film and tv.

>protagonist is in a dilemma
>asks for advice from elder
>instead of legit advice the elder shares a story that will help the protagonist find the answer

It's the exact same thing as TANGERINE.

>>87852590
I don't care how mad it makes you. We were discussing how ignorant and morally bankrupt Marvel is the way they treat justice and how BvS properly highlights why "being right" is far from as obvious and easy as Marvel world wants you to think. I mourn for the children growing up on Marvel's morally bankrupt films.

>>87852590
>most overused trope in film and tv
>in film and tv
You stupid motherfucker, have you ever heard of archetype? This is a classical element of storytelling, one that has seen use in stories spanning cultures of all continent across millennia. MoS and BvS follow in the tradition of the greatest stories of all time, it is the monomyth of the modern age.
Read some Joseph Campbell then maybe you can have a real conversation with the big boys.

>>87852794
Worst thing about GoTG2 - how it was part 80's action film complete with the gore and part cute Disney film for kids.

The balance simply doesn't work at all. Gunn wants to make an 80's nostalgia film but since this is Disney he must also bother with baby Groot and lame ass quips every three seconds. It's not ripe? Can anyone explain what was supposed to be funny about this?

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>>87852179
fixed

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>>87853059
LOL

>>87853059
>>87852179
Is the joke that this is from a DC film?

>>87851400

Steve wrote a letter to Tony asking excuse and Tony forgave Steve since he let them escape. Steve even said in the letter he and his new team will be always there for Tony, he just needs to ask.
War Machine was going through physical therapy and everything points out that he'll be able to walk fine in no time.

So nothing changed.

>>87852124
Epicurus. A greek philosopher.
If you accept that there is evil in the world and bad things happening. Then god can't be all knowing, all powerful, and all good.
This shit blew minds in the bronze age.

>>87853120
>War Machine was going through physical therapy and everything points out that he'll be able to walk fine in no time.
Wow, they can't even show a small ass sacrifice like this. How fucking tragic. I guess the kids don't want to buy the toys of a cripple. Civil "War" my ass.

>>87853108
i don't know about the first one but my edited one comes from the whole dc fans on /tv/ are pajeets joke

>>87853125
>>This shit blew minds in the bronze age
>long before Christianity and Epicurus
>American """""education"""""

>>87851247
Wow what a blue and orange film

>>87853190
Civil Airport Fight

>>87853190
Nigger has a robot suit. Haven't you seen M.A.N.T.I.S.?
Fuck if I knew I would get a robot suit for that I'd get shot by a forehead laser too.

>>87853190
Don't worry, he'll have a quip about how it sucks in the next Avengers.

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>>87852179
>>87853059

Didn't they digitally edited Harley's shorts in the SS movie to be smaller in the trailer?

>>87851892
Cap's irrational behavior with Bucky isn't any worse than Supe's irrational behavior with his mother.

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>>87852179
>>87853059
>>87853373

This is the same studio that also constantly give Wonder Woman panty shots. Sure, Gal doesn't have any ass, but they edit in post.

>>87853479
That's a stunt double

>>87853460

Yes, it is?

A man wanting to protect his own mother at any costs is one thing, now a dude wanting to protect another man like that? Shit, nigga, that's gay as fuck.

No wonder Tumblr see Cap and Bucky as some sort of gay romance that the MCU just don't have the guts to commit to.

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>>87853509

I know, i'm just saying. They try to create the illusion that Gal is sexy and hot.

They even managed to create the illusion she has boobs. Some crazy movie magic, i tell ya!

Unironically, most of the MCU has better dialogue and characterization than DCEU, and it's not even close.

Just compare how subtle and intelligent is the connection between Sam and Steve in the first scene of TWS to how hamfisted and prosaic the connection between Clark and Bruce is when they meet at the party.

>>87853525

Lets be honest, Cap and Bucky have more romantic tension than Cap ever did share with that girl from Revenge series. Forgot her name.

By the way, why the fuck were they trying to do with that subplot anyway? What a lazy thing. Felt like an after thought.

If it were me, i'd just go with Black Widow or something, since they seemed to have some sort of chemistry in Winter Soldier.

>>87853657

Clark and Bruce aren't friends in BvS. There's no connection there other than the thematic shit of them dodging their shit and vilifying one another.

>>87853657
>wow dude you running
>yeah yo! you run too lol

>>87853736
t.brainlet

>>87853734
neither are Sam and Steve at the beginning of TWS

>>87853805
In the eyes of Clark, Bruce is a mad vengeful vigilante who may have killed people. In the eyes of Bruce, Clark might very well mean the end of them all.

Tell me exactly, how does this compare at all to Steve meeting Affirmative Action employee of the month?

>>87853584
I genuinely don't know what Snyder was thinking when he cast her

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I don't come here often, so I need to ask to be sure.

Do people here actually genuinely find Batman VS. Superman insightful at all or is this some ironic meme? I hope the latter.

>>87853886

I do.

>>87853805
>calling others brainlets while advocating against BvS because you can't comprehend it

disaster that just keeps on giving

>>87853886
i want to believe that most people here are being ironic or contrarian but the truth is some of these dummies actually do believe the nonsense they spew.

>>87853845
That doesn't justify hamfisted dialogue.

>>87853886
>I don't come here often, so I need to ask to be sure.
Fuck off newfag /vp/ is two blocks down the street

>>87850309

I have a hard time telling these days.

>>87853998
aww aren't you a little big man, yes you are, yes you are

>>87853886
>Batman VS. Superman
>VS.
Holy Mother of pleb shit take a look at this moron

>>87850348

> Ability to fly into fucking space
> Climbs a mountain

You guys are actually 14 years old I swear. Why do your parents let you use the computer unsupervised?

Get the fuck off /tv/

>>87854121
I can take my car around town if I want to.

Yet I still prefer to take long walks instead.

Know why? I honestly don't expect a shut-in Marvel manchild to know.

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>>87853059
>I <3 India being on the backside of the garment

How fitting

>>87852914
>It's not ripe? Can anyone explain what was supposed to be funny about this?

It's a joke that plays on multiple levels. The main foundation of the joke uses unexpected misdirection. Whenever the fruit is at play, it is obviously not the focus of the scene. Thus whenever the dialogue of "it's not ripe" is repeated it is a misdirection in response to a characters true desire. This brings us to the next layer of the joke, satire. Whenever the fruit is at play it is during a situation of grave violence. But the violence is ignored and attention is brought on a single fruit. This is a satire of societies acceptance of violence. The third and final layer of the joke is repetition. By repeating the same line of dialogue through multiple scenes it reminds us that ones true desires are never known without explicit communication and how throughout history violence has always been an acceptable part of society.

>>87854054
Why are you here and not on the dedicated Pokémon board?

Faggotchu, I pick (you)!

>>87854054
You're only making it worse for yourself with each reply

>>87854160

If you can't see why that doesn't apply, there's no hope for you.

Flying =/= taking a car for superman. It's like the choice between taking an interstellar FTL spacecraft or flying, which is something he has actually done before. Evidently you don't understand the distinction because you probably can't go for a walk without your parents' permission yet.

Fucking hell.

>>87854160
For him flying IS walking.

>>87854240
have you tried not sounding like a 16 year old with a receding hairline?

>>87853736

The absolute state of /tv/ if this is all you got from that scene. Holy mother of God.

>>87853886
It's /tv/ operating under 9 layers of irony

>>87854315

This, so much this.

>>87853059
it's the opposite

>>87853886
>I don't come here often
do yourself a favor and don't come back.

>>87853845
>My movie is not liberal,yours is liberal!!!!
"/tv/ intellectuals critiques"

>>87854410
>>87854315
Pretty sure walking is walking for Superman.

>>87854939

About as much as opening a door for manlets like you is the same as lifting proper weights for a normal person.

Your brain really explodes at anything beyond a surface level metaphor doesn't it?