>it's another episode about politics Jesus Christ, can

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>crazy neo-nazis do crazy shit
>a show that has always made fun of the most recent events makes fun of them
>"WOOOW GUYS STOOOOOOP"

South Park isn't even funny if you aren't 13. What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>87793337
kek OP probably crying right now

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>>87793337
You probably forgot what the first seasons are about

>>87793337
This

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>>87793298
Don't pull a chef and act like south park suddenly went downhill just because they finally turned their sights on you.
They've been political forever.

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>>87793371
Yes anon the show has changed it formula after 20 fucking seasons.

>>87793371
The show has acknowledged that it got political pretty early on. So while it's perfectly fine to tune out because you don't like politics (I haven't watched the show in a decade, personally) it's a bit odd to pick now, of all times, to get mad that it's political when the shift occurred before the fucking turn of the millenium.

>>87793298
I'm actually getting tired of this shit. I don't even live in america and I don't give single fuck about your shitty shit hole but for gods sake THIS WHITE BLACK PEOPLE DEBATE IS EVERYWHERE BECAUSE OF YOUR STUPID COUNTRY.

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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>87793298
btw why the fuck dont you build your houses from bricks so it wontt be blowed away by some wind??

>>87793371
>You probably forgot what the first seasons are about
He says, as he posts an episode list of the first season showcasing that South Park was tackling political subjects as early as episode four: Big Gay Al's Big Gay Boat Ride.

>>87793645
I hope you're joking. An episode making fun of gay people is definitely not as political as MUH WHITE MEN MUH DRUMPF shit.

>>87793688
The episode was about gay acceptance because Stan's dog was gay. That's a political stance.

I don't recall anything political in that episode. Did making fun of waving confederate flag triggered you?

>>87793705

I wonder how Stan's dog felt when he realized he can never become a bitch

>>87793705
Again, the complaint isn't about anything dealing with the outside world being in the show, it's about this lazy nu-political shit.

>>87793758
>the complaint isn't about anything dealing with the outside world being in the show
You're moving the goalposts. You complained about South Park getting political, I proved that they've been political since season 1.

>it's about this lazy nu-political shit.
Right, because making an episode with an overly stereotypical gay character to help a little boy deal with his gay dog isn't lazy.

>>87793820
I'm not the same guy you drooling fucking faggot.

>>87793758
>it's about this lazy nu-political shit.

If that episode aired today you'd be bitching just as hard as you are right now.

>>87793298
>white people so cray they be all like
>LEMME DO SUMTIN PRODUCTIVE AND IMPROVE CIVILIZATION
>AMIRITE NIGGAS AMIRITE #LOOTKREW

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Do Comedy Central still play this episode or is it too redpilled for their advertisers?

matt and trey turned into cucks

they use to make fun of liberals but now became them

>>87794492
How? They literally sided with trump on the issue, showed "you will not replace us" instead of "Jews will not replace us", violence on both sides etc.

>>87793394
and now its shit shilling the same crap the rest of hollywood does which is completly out of touch with the current zeitgeist

>>87793298
>it's another /pol/tard cries more than an SJW thread

>>87793298
It's not as political as you think. What they fight for has nothing to do with real world politics. The alt-right parodies aren't even in the wrong in the episode. I hated last season but this was a legit good episode with every scene leading up to some clever joke. You can get triggered at nothing all you want but this season will in all likelihood be a return to greatness.

>>87793298
It takes them a week to write an episode,idk why people are so surprised it's inconsistent.

>>87794839
>You can get triggered at nothing all you want but this season will in all likelihood be a return to greatness
Stage One Denial

>>87793298
I don't give a shit about amerifat politics but there were no jokes in the episode.

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>>87793298
>but honey I was thinking of coming up with some original ideas an novel concepts that would make for interesting self contained stories this season
>no Trey make fun of white conservatives again or no sex for you lmao
>y-yes dear

>>87793337
>>a show that has always made fun of the most recent events makes fun of them
but that's wrong

>>87794938
i read a vice interview once. this cuck actually divorced his japanese cutie over this whore who is/was a legit stripper with a black son and knocked her up

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>>87794969
I wonder if the shows decline in quality coincides with his re marrying and adoption of the nigglet.

>>87793848
That episode was filled with jokes, so no

Look at last season, all preaching, no jokes. At least they did attempt a few jokes this episode but I mean it's not like trailer trash jokes are hard to write

>show makes fun of SJWs
>LOL BASED

>show makes fun of alt right
>STOP HURTING MY FEE FEES :(

>>87793298
even sp's early current events satire is unfunny crap

OP probably tells people not to talk politics at the dinner table and gets offended when people ask who he voted for. Fuck you, talking about politics is good.

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>>87794492
>bawwww some people disagree with my views

>>87793907
they play it sometimes, butt out is pretty solid

>>87793337
>>crazy neo-nazis do crazy shit

Like what?

>>87793371
Half of those episodes are political you impotent white male fuck

>>87795119
>Lefties can't meme

>>87795114
Have you never heard the old adage "The two things you shouldn't talk about at dinner: religion and politics."? Been advice for ages for a reason, and that was before a certain side started screeching about wrongthink.

>>87795119
who knew insulting a whole race pissed people off... you would never accept it towards minorities

I turned it off 10 minutes in. Didn't laugh once.

>>87795278
Nah fuck that, life's about the discourse

>>87795157
march with tiki torches and screech about the jews

>>87795161
not a single one is about topical or current events... gays and ethiopia have always existed

current SP's reliance on news cycle material paradoxically makes it boring and spineless since it won't take a side on the issues

Never heard these complaints when they made fun of PC culture. Proof that hycks can dish it out, but can't take it.

>>87795616
dreadful season

>>87795616
http://moviebob.blogspot.ie/2016/01/note-following-piece-is-possible-in.html

there ya go

also sjws can take even less of the bile they dish out than the right

>>87793455
The US Is the most influential country culturally speaking this is why the rest of the world have to deal with USA-centric bullshit ranging from Gamergate to Trump

>>87795291
>expecting /pol/tards to experience empathy
>>87795169
I'm sorry there wasnt enough webcomic frog and joke about autism or Internet e-celebs namedropping David Duke

>>87795616
>when they made fun of PC culture

How did they make fun of it when they established it as the new normal? They made prinical out to be a badass jock for fucks sake

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>A show based on recent events touches upon politics

>>87794938
Sad really his little half-breed has got to go

>>87795460
Okay, what else?

>>87796187
right wing people experience empathy if only for their own kind

now what they uniquely have that leftists lack is loyalty... the left is well known for eating its own when they don't adapt quickly enough to the changing rules of progressivism

>>87796187
if all these evil rightwingers lack empathy why are you still alive?

>/tv/ unironically getting offended by south park
kek

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>>87793298
>TFW I just watched this

Literally lectured some guy for not going to college.

Its almost like giving people of color a gold star and free pass in college for being brown does not undermined the value of a degree.

>To be admitted to elite colleges, Asians needed SAT scores 140 points higher than whites, 270 points higher than Hispanics and 450 points higher than blacks.

Ever trusting a nigger doctor with his gimmi dat degree

lol when I was getting shouted down for complaining last season had no jokes in it and that there was a steady decline since around season 10, the thread I posted in had people saying I was a butt hurt liberal that couldn't take a joke. ironic that /pol/ is now saying that the episode that aired now is unfunny when they're being made fun of. makes you wonder how easily they're manipulated when all you have to do to get them to like you and your content is to claim to be white and make fun of liberals.

>>87796144
nobody outside of retards that spend their whole lives on the internet care about gamergate.

as far as trump goes, we're still mostly just shaking our head and laughing that it happened.

>>87793298
They're not going to stop just because they hurt your fee-fees, magapede.

>>87797125
>nobody outside of retards that spend their whole lives on the internet care about gamergate

People all over media cared for it and feared it. Them not learning to it and sticking to the same shaming tactics played huge part in the Trump election

>>87793298
>dumb politics
>house remodeling
>Cartman and his boring relationship
>the other boys NOWHERE TO BE FOUND

It's a joy watching the trailer park going into full meltdown mode due to south park, of all things.

>>87797216
This attitude is why Trump got elected

>>87795119
rules for radicals, bruh, read it.

>>87793298
>/leftypol/ going full screech mode then saying /pol/'s triggered
muh dick

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>/pol/ gets triggered at South Park like pearl-clutching grannies did during the 2000s

>>87796745
Take everything posted on a chinese cartoon dedicated board seriously

>>87797182
clickbait media that survives on hits, mostly.

I don't remember seeing stories about it on the actual news on tv, at least not here, I can't speak for american news shows, but that's not really news now is it.

>>87797274
Except South Parks ratings didnt bomb during the 2000s

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>>87797268
This pretty much bruh. They're pretty autistic though, you should just let them have this.

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>>87793298
http://www.strawpoll.me/13941563
http://www.strawpoll.me/13941563
http://www.strawpoll.me/13941563

>>87795616
really? that's LITERALLY why south park is still a thing, being "outrageous"

>>87796752
Right wing people are not capable of complex emotions like empathy
Literally subhumans

>>87793298
>can they fucking stop already
Well they've been doing it since the late-90s, so I doubt it. But it's such a weird coincidence, the moment southpark stops shitting on liberal sacred cows after everyone else copied them and instead started shitting on things you might think, that their politics became a problem.

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>>87797356
We can't all be as emotional as you. dawg.

>>87796339
>and gets it completely wrong, showing how out of touch they are

>>87797396
But I think it's been a problem for years sweetie.

>>87797419
>b-but muh /pol/ triggered

>>87797404
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnXBeQwmmrc
Yeah, your kind deal with more primitives emotions mainly, like fear

>>87796745
that's more than enough to make fun of them

btw, they killed people as well

>>87793298
Anon, South Park has mocked this particular brand of people for many years, LONG before the Trump stuff (those particular rednecks introduced to the show back in 2004).

>>87797453
what a pussy

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>>87797453
lmao, it's funny when bitches bark but don't bite

>>87797274
but the commentary/jokes are weak, scorch us good and we can laugh at ourselves, see AHS. that shit is lit

>>87797514
Is that guy trying to rip off the dudes pants? Are Trump fans just a bunch of faggots?

I never understand people getting butthurt by south park, that have watched them shit on anything and everything for years, but as soon as it turns to them it's unnaceptable, you are children.

>fucking isaac hayes

couldn't believe that shit.

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>>87797514
*tips meme hat*

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>>87797453
Go to church anon and pray

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this show made a good point though. Jews and Asians are making technology that obsoletes 50% of white men. the new blue collar jobs will be healthcare, sales, customer service type of jobs, which of course would require college degree(s). because essentially only women are graduating from college these days, most of the workforce will be women.

so in the future: an even richer Jewish elite employing Asian engineers with a largely female class of human-facing wage workers. unskilled white men will join the ranks of blacks and Mexicans on basic income.

>>87797534
>hehe, yeah you just completely owned me, b-but, you're a fag
LMAO POINT AT HIS ASS AND LAUGH

>>87797588
You didn't own anyone, bitch. Try again.

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>>87797534
HHAHAHAHA

>>87797235
No, it was because he had a career criminal as the opposition. Literally the only reason.

>>87797453
>the state of white american males
HAHHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAA

>>87793371
>stans uncle jimbo takes the boys up to the mountain
and they make a heavyhanded point about guns and hunting regulations/loopoholes
>weight gain 4000
they're making fun of fat fighting programs and obesity issues
Gay acceptance, animal genetic engineering/cloning, parents doing political campaigns vs shows like southpark, offensive costumes, fighting hunger in africa funds, people taking down town mangers, and so-on. Yes, early southpark had less political focus as it was an edgy kids show, but the episodes would almost always shove a political message, usually a takedown, in your face.

>>87797621
What's that lad, can't hear you over the sound of your tear. Need a tissue hon?

>>87797557
I don't know if you guys used to watch SP or not, but the humor came from being "edgy af". Hating drumpf and white pepo isn't really edgy these days.

>>87797626
lol someones upset

>>87797557
>I never understand people getting butthurt by south park
It's the younger end of the millennials. They get upset at everything, whether they're on the left or the right. Getting outraged on social media is what they're all about.

Nobody older than a certain age would ever get triggered by South Park, of all things. It makes you look like an idiot to most people (unless you're in your younger millennial bubble).

>>87797669
I know you are anon, maybe you should walk away from the computer and calm down.

>>87797654
Explain this video >>87797453 to me please

>>87797630
Also Hillary is extremely unlikeable, can't blame yanks for voting Trump desu

>>87793298
It's not though, this episode is about technological unemployment and the pitfalls of transitioning to a service based economy, where randy is somehow more successful than any of his friends despite his job being neither productive or creative in any way.

>>87797584
too bad everyone is too busy trying to get triggered or to prove they didn't get triggered to get this

in a way this episode was brilliant (despite the complete lack of jokes)

>>87797666
>I don't know if you guys used to watch SP or not, but the humor came from being "edgy af".
Being "edgy af" wasn't the point, though. They mocked extremism in an outrageous manner (all through the lens of the 2 main boys, Stan and Kyle, trying to figure shit out). In the 90's (and way before the show started), there was a political correctness problem that they saw issue with (a PC problem that became FAR worse recently, which is why they when after the topic much more specifically recently).

>>87797630
No the left being condescending assholes 24/7 jumping the shark with their special snowflake shit every week got him elected

>>87797692
>everything is millenials fault

are you underage, people have been offended by south park from the start, church groups, old faggots worried about bad language, big gay al.

there are idiots in every age group.

>>87797771
No, that's just you crying about being bullied by them city folks. Refer to the previous post.

>>87797777
>offended by south park from the start
exactly. AT THE START, when people still didn't know what to make of it, and poking at the overdone political correctness of society was sort of the underlying thing with them.

I'm wondering whether you belong to that demographic, since you so obviously missed the point. Millennials on the younger end all share a common trait, and that's getting outraged by everything these days. Not entirely due to them in specific, but the proliferation of social media and the ease of airing out what makes them angry (no matter if it's important or not)

>>87793337
fpbp

>>87793371
>DUDE A SHOW IS SUPPOSED TO STAY THE SAME FOR 20 YEARS LMAO

>>87793337
Yup. Everyone's a snowflake these days

>Randy telling the judge that the rednecks are damaging his brand which is "White People..."
thought this was a great demonstration of the difference in attitudes between the rural, ethnocentric whites and cosmopolitans--who so rarely think about their racial identity that they might as well treat it as a corporate marketing entity, whereas the rednecks focus on their whiteness all day every day because that's all they have going on in their lives.

South Park kino

The Zimmerman episode was a major low point for the show's quality.

>>87793337
>neo-nazis

Do you mean people who are for civility, peace and order, and against Mohammed and his bros enriching our cities and against the erasure of history.

Oh ok!

>>87798287
>>civility, peace and order
>runs over protesters with a car

>>87793298
South Park apologist reporting in. I dropped the show last year and have no plans to revisit it.

>>87798315
Part and Parcel of living in a large city.

Why are the whitebois on this site so insecure?

My girlfriends husband is white and we all really enjoyed this episode, it's just good comedy learn to laugh about yourself.

>>87793337
preach, I love the episode about crazy
>BLM
>ISIS
>antifa
members

>>87798315
>truck of peace

>>87798287
>Mohammed and his bros

Do you mean people who are for civility, law and order, against feminists and their gals promoting promiscuity and phasing out marriage, and against the hedonism of the modern age?

Oh ok!

>>87798315
>One (1) person gets killed by a schizo
>Hundreds of innocent Europeans have been run over by Muslim terrorists in the past year alone

Where's your outrage regarding that?

>>87798451
My outrage over what? I was laughing at someone saying they were people of civility and peace

>>87798315
>stand in a ROAD
>car drives up that ROAD and stops
>start bashing that car with bats and other weapons because a car is trying to drive on a ROAD
>he tries to get away
>hits people standing in the ROAD with a car
Man gets the noggin' joggin'

>>87798479
>lying over the internet
really strokes the noodle

>>87798472
You're a eunuch

>>87793298

What was supposed to be funny about this episode?

None of this was funny.

>Randi has a home renovation show
>Rednecks waltz around protesting
>Cartman and Heidi

Can't believe I sat through this whole episode. Didn't even crack one smile this entire time.

>>87798505
It was already confirmed she died of a heart attack. The car had nothing to do with it.

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The show is shit but those Alt Right tears are delicious. I'll allow it.

Does this season have "continuity" like the last two?

I'm not even going to bother if it does

>>87793298
The show lost it's charm and it went to literal shit; they've started to go random lol rawr xD humor
I barely finished the new episode

>>87798721
Why do you assume everyone tired with politics in South Park, or TV in general, are alt-right?

>>87796144
Nah it's just USA and Europe, which is like 30% of world's population

>>87798451
>Where's your outrage regarding that?

lol

>>87798807
timing

>>87798807
>ok when its right wing
>bad when its left wing
rly gets the noge joge

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ok for the love of god, all i see in these threads are "haha pol be triggered" "love dem tears jajaja" "lmao that alt right butthurt though!" but nobody is actually upset? jesus christ stop

>>87793298
It's downright lovecraftian how far this series has fallen

>>87793298
This episode was among the worst episodes, especially as a season debut.

I won't bother bringing up the political message of the show beyond just pointing out the obvious. Attacking the "alt-right" is reaching for the lowest hanging fruit possible. Every unfunny hack cracks one alt-right joke or two in their shitty "comedy" routines.

The subplot between Cartman and Heidi was handled horribly. Even conceding that their relationship wasn't going to last given that Cartman's paranoid went into overdrive the last season doesn't excuse the heinously terrible and unfunny dialogue. Fuck it, there were so many possibilities they could've gone in, but no, they just had to hit the reset button and put things back to where they were.

What's far more egregious is the "comedy" itself. Randy used to a great side character before being flanderized to hell around season 13, and this episode was no exception. I cringe in every scene he's in and actually wish him extreme physical pain. Seeing him drive a nail through his dick would've been funnier than 99% of the jokes here.

The Alexa and Siri bits were blatant acts of product placement. The jokes were forced and driven straight into the ground within the first two minutes. It's as if they had them just for the sake of giving Alexa and Siri airtime.

>>87798930
they were posting threads mad about it before the episode even aired.

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>>87798807
Either you're /pol/, a libtard or a "radical centrist". Those are your options.

>>87798917
Where are you getting these implications?

Are people not allowed to dislike politics being in TV constantly, right or left?

Or is the alt-right complaining about both sides now? Is everyone who complains ever alt-right?

Hey faggots someone answer me. Is this season using the same shitty serialized gimmick as the last few seasons?

South Park hasn't been decent or relevant since like season 7.
People complain about "Zombie Simpson", but South Park is a relic from the early 2000's that is still somehow a 'thing' in 2017.

>>87793371
1997 was 20 years ago, fuck I'm getting old

>>87798930
lurk moar

>>87796267
What the principal was obviously represented as a hypocritical douche

>>87793337
I've been tired of them doing episodes on recent events for some time now.

It's super lazy.

>show X makes fun of left stuff
>haha LOL take THAT sjws!
>show X makes fun of right stuff
>woah wtf why does everything has to get so political
For a single brief moment a couple of years ago I actually believed the alt-right people actually had a principled aversion to politics in pop-culture. But no, it's the just the same old screeching hypocrisy as the twitter-sphere, just from the other side of the aisle.

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>every time something airs that makes fun of the alt-right, white people, or Trump, /pol/ddit immediately gets triggered and memes how """unfunny""" it is

>>87793390
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q--iGgtRn8

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>>87793298
>ITT

>>87799114
>>87799117
except none of that is happening, all that's been in these threads is low level bait posts like yours

maybe the episode just isn't very funny and this is your way of being defensive idk

>>87798315

the driver was a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic, whose car was hit with a baseball bat before he accelerated

we are still fucking talking about this when there were 3 racial islamist terror attacks yesterday. i fucking hate you people

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>>87799249
>children are starving in Africa so shut your mouth and eat that plate of shit
Wherein anon is unaware of the ability to talk about two things at the same time.

>>87793298

They took our Jobs!

>>87799249
>crazy guy drives into a crown of protestors
>BUT WHAT ABOUT TERROR ATTACKS IN EUROPE

literally not connected, why would you bring it up other than to deflect from your own shitty opinion that you know is shitty.

>watching south park in 2017
>in fact, watching south park in this decade

kill yourself please

>>87799377

> not connected

they are both forms of terrorism.

my point is that the race of the attacker determines whether the terror attack is memoryholed within 24 hours , or whether it gets brought up again and again and again and again and again and again

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>>87798756

they said it wont have continuity. then the first episode immediately continues from last season.

>>87799505
no the difference is nobody here is defending isis terror attacks in europe, so there's not much discussion to be had.

people making excuses and defending that driver kept it going longer than it should have, because he's /ourguy/ SJWS BTFO or something.

>>87793298
if only liberals would juge the actions of non white, non male, non hetero and non christian people as much as well.
we might actually move forward as a country instead of getting further driven apart

>>87799531
They didn't talk about Trump at all.

>>87793337
did they ever do a episode on crimes committed by black people or illegals or false rape accusations?
shit I mean that happens every single day so you can´t get more relevant then that

>>87799939
Your lack of self-awareness is showing

Did South Park have a golden age like The Simpsons or did it always have varying quality?

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>>87800078

less extreme, but 4-11

>>87800151
no, the golden age of the simpsons was several seasons of something close to perfection, south park has always been hit and miss

>>87800605

what do you mean "no"? I posted a fucking graph of hard data

>>87800885
I don't care, that doesn't make it a golden age

>>87800885
Hard data... of opinions. Wow.

>>87799293
He is a /pol/tard
Give him a break

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ITT: KEKSERVATIVE COGNITIVE DISSONANCE

THEY'RE

GOING

TO

LAUGH

AT

YOU

FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE

I've always been a fan of south park but the last few seasons have been trash. Even this episode. It was just making a political score that white people are racist because they are dumb. "Just go to college!"

Most of the show was just a build up for a few jokes. The pay of wasn't really worth waiting fifteen minutes for.

>>87801766
It's a direct contradiction from the last two seasons' respective narratives. I honestly think Matt and Trey aren't writing it anymore

>>87794938
>literally his wives son

>>87797092
>lectured
kek, nice strawman

>>87797453
>going to a rally to "have fun"
wew

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>>87797453
>SO ITS LIKE A COSPLAY

I am literally shaking we have KKK white supremacist nazis in our streets KILLING PEOPLE this. is. not. okay.
SHAME RESIST TUCK FRUMP

>>87797092
It's funny what uneducated people tell themselves to feel better about their life lol

>>87793371
>Iraqi insurgents
are you for fucking real

>>87800947

I have a masters degree in statistics fuck off retard

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisdom_of_the_crowd

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>>87793371
>big gay Al
>Starving Ethiopian
>Iraqi fugitive kidnapped by insurgents
>plastic surgery craze

>>87802025

Randy literally was shouting at the redneck for not going to college and saying it was his fault he couldnt find work

>>87802580
I have a masters in bating.

>>87794697
What about the basic gestalt?

>>87802625
It is. It is every NEET in this thread's fault that you are in the life situation that you are.

>>87794492
>literally an entire season complaining about PC culture
>one episode making fun of far right protesters
Man, /r/The_Donald really does get triggered easily

>>87793907
They play it like every other week

>>87793298
>he still watches southpark
what is this 2005?

>>87802625
but that's not really "lecturing", it's just telling the truth..

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>>87802625
>It's mexican's fault that they can't find work
>It's blacks' fault that they can't find work
>It's womens' fault that they can't find work
>STOP LECTURING ME ABOUT HOW I CANT FIND WORK

>>87798315
NOT ALL NEO NAZIS

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>>87798287
>Do you mean people that drive into crowds with a car like muslim terrorists because they are afraid of muslim terrorists?
Yep.

>South Park has been shit for years
>Recent SP makes fun of the right
>Suddenly everyone claims South Park is good again
Hahaha

>>87803828
>Suddenly everyone claims South Park is good again
You must be new.

>>87803930
Take a look at any SP thread here on /tv/
>If you make fun of this or the previous two seasons you are literally pol

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>>87793298
>It's another /pol/faggot tries to censor an artist because they're making fun of his retarded faggot beliefs, while simultaneously shrieking MUH FREEZE PEACH
Wow, just wow.

>>87804118
>sneed&feedposter thinks his opinion has any value at all
Wew

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>>87802668

Whites are actually asians.

>>87795018
> re marrying and adoption of the nigglet.

Probably a symptom rather than a cause.

What probably happened was that influential people saw that South Park was influential. So they invited Matt & Trey to high end parties, private dinners, you know, the high-life. Overtime, they became one of them. Their worldview changed as their clique changed.