zzzz Talk about fucking overrated, didn't even see the rest

why would an alien suffer from human amnesia? this movie made no sense.

Arrival is part of a recent series of movies I'd describe as Dunning-Kruger Sci-Fi. Along with Interstellar and to a somewhat lesser extent The Martian, they perfectly play to the crowd that fancies themselves as (and, to be fair, may truly be) smarter than average audiences but are not as smart as genuinely "smart people." They are movies designed to make the audience feel smart by introducing complicated and heady concepts, and then holding the viewer's hand the entire way through until there is next to nothing to be left up to interpretation.

If you didn't already know the twist in Arrival by the time she was in the milky section of the ship with the aliens AT LEAST, you perfectly fit the audience I am talking about.

There is no reward for being smart while viewing these movies because everything is eventually spelled out in big fridge magnet letters. Any clever idea is made so transparent that even the most simple in the audience will get it. It also removes any reward for rewatching or trying to figure out what you just saw.

Granted, there is a difference between Arrival and Interstellar. I think where Interstellar was pretending to have a brain it actually didn't have, Arrival has a brain that it is refusing to let the audience use.

Completely disappointing movie.

Also
>so that just happened

villenueve is capeshit

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>tfw abbott is death process

>>87756243
The main reason I don't like these films is that they seem to want the audience to feel that the characters have class. They don't. Having class is being like Cary Grant or Jimmy Stewart, or Don Draper in madmen, if you want a more recent example. Not that Nolan-Villenueve pretentious shit

I enjoyed it up till the time bullshit started happening

at that point it seemed like it was trying way too fucking hard to be smart

>>87756177
Yep its shit

>>87756254
How to spot a brainlet pseud: likes
>Fury Road
>Arrival
>Sicario

>>87756243
>>87756861

Pretentiousness is a disease.

>>87756940
Fury Road and Sicario are great

>>87756958
No they aren't. They are shit
>>87756940
Add Birdman and La La Land

>>87756958
there is nothing great about fury road but sicario has a good script

>>87756243
holy inferiority complex

>>87756940
I like Sicario's story and characters, don't like the cinematography, actually hate it. 7/10

I like Fury Road's visuals and the bad guy to a small degree. About 6/10

Arrival is 5/10 because it does have some decent actors

>>87756177
The film is not about the ayylmaos you filthy surface-level casual, it's about the relationshiop between Louise and her daughter:
The opening and the ending sequences are about their relationship.
All the major scenes are intercut with it.
And even when it's in the present narrative it's either a heavy close up of Amy Adams for half the movie or a camera placement of her characters point of view.

The ayylmaos and the science were only plot devices for the actual narrative of the mother-daughter relationship. It is by no means a "hard sci fi" movie about aliens.

Amy Adams has no charisma and can't act. How do you see otherwise. Shes fucking terrible in many things. Ruins film after film, can't even emote properly in this.

>>87757003
>don't like the cinematography, actually hate it
why's that

Did OP really type "zzzz" to convey boredom?

>>87757055
Not him but Deakins is a fucking meme

>>87757074
underage tourist crossposter autist as usual

>>87756992
>Good script
Why did CIA need to use FBI to "legally" operate on US soil? If they didn't tell anyone, no one would've known. Why choose a retard woman? They could have chosen a retard man and still be ahead. What was the point of Blunt's character other than audience stand in? Why was she constantly deus ex machina by other characters? Etc. Script was the worst part. Cinematography was okay.

>>87756177
>he does not get it
lol what a pleb

>>87757055
It's nu-male cinematography. It makes things look too clean and "classy", specially for a film that takes place in the Mexican-American frontier

>>87757017
I thought I was the only person who thought that

>>87757012
This.

If you stop looking at Arrival as if it were an sci-fi movie you'd appreciate it more. I think you may have been prone to disliking it because you had a set of expectations that didn't align to the film. If you came in expecting ayy lmaos I can see why you wouldn't like it.

>>87757074
Yeah, got a problem with it?
>>87757012
That wasn't all that fleshed out as well.

>>87757076
Deakins didn't even do the cinematography for Arrival you dumbfuck

>>87757088
she was an audience stand in to exacerbate the "twist" of being used, being used by forces that she didn't fully understand, which is also heightened by her being a woman for vulnerability points

>>87757128
>It's nu-male cinematography
the fucking state of /tv/ right now

>>87757188
he's right

>>87757150
I like you anon, you have taste

>>87757213
just delete yourself from this existence if you are actually serious

>>87757083
I'm 21 and have been using this board for years, shut up. It's just a phrase nobody gives a fuck if you think it's from a certain site or childish.

>>87757243
It just shows how much of a fucking undeveloped brainlet you truly are. Not only the way you phrased it by the fact that you think that's any kind of argument or point at all.
"Boring" is not a valid argument, it only says what your mood was while watching.
Same as saying "it was fun", that does not indicate anything about the actual quality of the film.

>>87757377
I was just memeing because people respond more to those threads. Anyways the entirety of the movie was too contained in one area in my opinion, it would've been more epic and felt more powerful seeing more of the world and how other people were communicating with the aliens. Yes there was the relationship with her daughter which was more of the focus but that could've used more development.

>>87756177
Stop being such a fucking fantasy nerd. It's not about the details, it's about the human emotional punch that underlies the entire story.

>>87757182
My questions imply I knew that.

>>87756177
Underage faggot, you are probably one of those fat fucker who unironically like '80 trash movies.

so sicario is a movie both loved and hated by numales, very interesting

>>87757480
>it's about the human emotional punch that underlies the entire story.
Exactly

Arrival doesn't have it

>>87757166
They were talking about Siacrio you cumquat

>>87756989
>i don't like popular movie because i want to feel special

>>87757128
This is why Blade Runner 2049 looks like shit

Skyfall also looked like too clean shit

>>87756940
>>87756989
Faux-Kino/Dishonest Filmmaking Core
Pls add to this list:

Fury Road
Arrival
Sicario
Birdman
Lalaland
Ex Machina
Baby Driver
Her
Fury
The Revenant

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>>87757525
But Sicario looks great? And the framing and composition is completely in line with the narrative, not a single "empty pretty picture"

>>87757560
so what is in your opinion the best movie of 2016?

>>87757480
Yea and Amy Adams has as much emotion directed by Villenueve as a dead fish. Its fucking lifeless. A lifeless first contact film. You are a pleb

>>87757560
Anything by Nolan (except maybe Memento, and I haven't seen Dunkirk yet)

>>87757560
her was brilliant fuck off

>>87757581
No it doesn't you fucking redditor. Holy shit you are such a fucking shit eating person. Orange, orange and blue. Looks like the type of shit that's praised by plebs to me and the academy

>>87757560
Nocturnal Animals
American Hustle
Silver Linings Playbook

>>87757560
Argo

>>87757128
>nu-male cinematograpy
come on now

>>87757581
It's too clean and sanitized and, worst of them all, they put a black shady effect to give a feel of "oh, that looks so cool, clearly that is some tough enviornment" that looks absolutely fake

Eastwood uses low-key lighting and back-lighting and a little black filter masterfully. Villenueve doesn't

>>87757560
>>87757644
The Town too then

>>87757589
How is anything by Nolan "dishonest"? Every single film of his is "his", he makes films which he wants to make, untouched artistic integrity.
I mean who asked for a british film that is not a remake/reboot/prequel/sequel with almost no dialogue and a full white british male cast in 2017? But Nolan made it because he wanted to out of passion/desire to make it, not because some studio exec calculated the current market demand.

>>87757613
>orange, orange and blue
The "orange and blue" is just a complimentary colorway in color grading that's been used from the start of the use of color in any art form, but autists on the Internet like you caught up to that only a year or two ago and now just screech ORAMGE AN BLU just because they heard of the term somewhere and thinking that that some kind of argument. Embarassing.

>>87757694
I didn't mean dishonest. I mean faux-kino
Maybe he does makes films he wants to make. Maybe he does spread his artistic vision fully
If that's the case, his artistic vision is awful

>>87757654
>black shady effect
What exactly do you mean?

/tv/ is the biggest board of plebs ever assembled.

>If I hate it, I am smart.

>>87757722
See
>>87757654
It looks fake all around the only problem isn't the orange and blue. Entire color pallete is ass

>>87757560
Hmmm.

Hitchcock
Goddard
Herzog
Bergman
Fincher
Orson Wells
M
Chaplin
Kubrick
Malick
Kurosowa
Sophia coppala
F ford coppala
Refn
Spielberg
Del torro
Jackson
Haneke
Wong kar wei
Tarkovsky
Sergio leone
Truffaut
Fellini
Tarantino
Polanski
Ridley Scott
Carpenter
Inuarittu
Cuaron
Von trier
Carne
Zack Snyder

Did I miss hacks /tv/?

>>87757694
He's an exposition machine who holds you hand and has cliche all the time. Nolan is shit.

>>87757827
Movies not directors you moron. Some hacks might have one or two good films by fluke.

>>87757003

>rating something from a 1 to a 10

i cant take you serious

Really should have just been a movie about first contact with aliens and not time bullshit. Literally fuck the time bullshit with kim jong un

>>87757827
You have autism prove me wrong. You didn't even include Refn who is the biggest hack of them all.

>>87757613
You didnt watch the movie then single shots dont communicate the actual camera movements . Sicario isnt a masterpiece, but its good because of the visual narrative it tells in tandem with the simple crime one. The costum design and settings align with how characters develop etc.

Its well crafted and just because it uses complimentary colors (blue necessitating orange since it takes place in a fucking desert)

>>87757855
But that does not make him "dishonest" you dumbfuck.
And it seems like he finally listened to all of his critiques with Dunkirk (almost no dialogue, no hamfisted exposition, no poor close quarter choreography, a simple straightforward story with the focus on visual storytelling)

>>87757560
Kingsman

>>87756177
Thanks for outing yourself as autistic

>>87756243
Stale copy/pasta

>>87757898
Read again.

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>>87757613

>>87757940
Prove to me you don't have autism. I'm still convinced.

1.You aren't a director or a writer or anything
2. You think directors aren't going to have their own styles
3. You're implying you can make films that are better than most directors when you are on 4chan

>>87756861
What the fuck? How does Arrival or Interstellar do that? At least the other retard's criticism has something to it.

>>87757560
Whiplash
This guaranteed replies core.

>>87757722
oh now i see, nvm blue and orange is epic now

Is there anything you retards like?

You realize you guys only hate popular things because you think it makes you smart, right?

>>87757992
Its a joke. The fact that faggots dismiss any of the ones they do here is pure bait for (You)s.

Calling something like fury road or sicario "pseudocore" or some shit is just as autistic as what i did. Its a pathetic attention whore tactc just as bad as begging for upboats on LE REDDIT.

Its too bad that tv doesnt actually have people who know their stuff enough to keep the board clear of the cancer. At least lit and mu have some standards, but every idiot feels entitled to have an opinion on movies.

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>>87758022
>hating on two colors

>>87758062
It's a wonderful life. It's an emotional movie with heart and a great message.

>>87758062
I'm not that type of person I loved the new Batb

>>87757560
ex machina isn't dishonest in the least

>>87758022
Its okay if you didnt notice the story on your first watch through. You did see the movie right?

It would be really embarassing if you just conflated cinematography with color rather than the visual narrative. You would look like some sort of screeching retard ignorant of everything despite acting more arrogant than everyone else.

>>87758105
redditard

Liking things makes me vulnerable. I liked something once in high school. Her name was [Name]. She took my like and swallowed it like [Name]'s semen. I don't like things anymore, in fact I have made my bitter hatred ironic and I laugh as I spew it everywhere I go.

t. average /tv/ poster

>>87758004
Rewatch both films. See how the characters act

>>87758084
>At least lit and mu have some standards, but every idiot feels entitled to have an opinion on movies.
Confirmed pseudo

>>87758300
there is literally nothing wrong with disliking shitty 2010s hollywood trash

kys pleb

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overrated horror:
Babadook
It Follows

>>87758300
>projecting THIS hard

>>87758363
It's okay. We were all hurt. I can tell by your anger you were hurt bad.

>>87758316
No, I want you to tell me how the fuck the characters continuously act like they have class (like that's a key point in the plot or someshit) because your criticism is retarded as fuck.

>>87758406
wtf i love spike jonze now

>>87757560
/tv/ Where everything is shit unless it's a pretentious foreign film.

It's Hillary porn

/tv/ , Where BvS is kino but Her is a pseudo-intellectual piece of shit.

>>87758504
/tv/ doesn't like those either.

You have to realize. The average user on /tv/ post 2012 is a teenage mexican boy.

That's who you are speaking to. Like most mexicans(I am half one so I know) they are threatened by literally anything seemingly "intelligent".

>>87758584
Lmao. Look at this pleb. He actually thinks we are being contrarians or ironic. If you can't see Zackino, then you are still living in the mainstream film matrix.

>>87758620
Yeah, the multiframed literal on-screen exposition email character setups were sooo fuckin kino, only smart people know this.

I would literally have no problem living the rest of my life tracking down, stalking and serial killing people who use the word kino.

Also, AHAHAHAHAHA-posters, people who badly photoshop images as a meme and people who hate feet.

>>87758748
It actually is fucking kino tho.

I fell asleep at the theater.

DUDE CIRCLES LMAO

DUDE NU-MILLENNIAL EDGY GREY OPTICS LMAO

>>87759376
DUDE "DUDE LMAO" LMAO

I get that she was able to travel in time, but how did she know that the chinese guy was an alien?

>>87759376
DUDE I HATE THINGS AS A SUBSTITUTE FOR A PERSONALITY LMAO

>>87759432
how would you guys pronounce LMAO?
In my head it's "le mow"

>>87756177

I hated this as I hated Instellar. They pretend to be "sci-fi" in the beginning but in the end they're more fantasy. And I don't like fantasy.

>>87758748
It's not necessarily what Zack achieved but what he tried so hard to do. Men understand that feeling of great ambition, of having purpose beyond yourself or this world. That's why DChads are all swole.

>>87759432
DUDE 'DUDE "DUDE LMAO" LMAO' LMAO

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Go watch this. It's the far better Arrival.

>>87756177
hated this film
amy adams is boring and cringeworthy and her whole storyline outside of the alien scenes is ridiculously depressing
ending is shit and cringe too
the aliens were kinda cool tho