>Original It was a masterpiece of the horror genre. A timeless

>>87608573
>tv miniseries by world renowned hack Stephen King
>masterpiece

i agree. mini series was great. i don't know where all these heralded 2017 opinions are coming from downplaying the original

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>>87608573
>>Original It was a masterpiece of the horror genre. A timeless classic that's still being talked about to this day

Big time nostalgia glasses you've got there OP.

Curry is literally the only good thing about the miniseries and moments of him actually seeming threatening are few and far between.

The book is shit

The TV serial was shit

I haven't seen the movie, but it's probably shit

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>>87608573
>This entire post

>>87608573
The only thing ever brought up about the 1990s IT is Tim Curry. People don't even fucking remember Seth Green was in the movie.

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>>87608573
>Original It was a masterpiece

If you can't admit the new movie is better than the mini series you're one of two things:
1. A massive nostalgia faggot who refuses to stop sucking Tim Curry's clown cock
2. You haven't seen the new movie
Which one is it OP?

>>87610329
somebody disagrees with popular consensus and you consider it bait. You're so dense with memes. get your head straight anon

>>87608573
>Original It was a masterpiece of the horror genre
why don't you kill yourself?

Literally no one talked about the 90s movie until the remake trailer

>>87608573

"I'm Pennywise the dancing clown."

Walked out right there.

I honestly can't tell if people who shit on the remake are trolling or not

>>87608573
>Original Pennywise felt like a threatening cosmic horror with unfathomable power
Said no one ever

>>87611270
EXCUSE ME SIR

Tim Curry elevated the movie for sure, but it's still not great

>>87610520
>People don't remember Seth green
Fixed that for you Seth.

>>87608573
>>Original It was a masterpiece of the horror genre. A timeless classic that's still being talked about to this day
>>Original It is a flick that abuses jumpscares and doesn't try to be a great movie. It's just Anabelle with a Clown instead of a demon
Oh, sweet freudian slip.

The original IT sucked you fucking pleb

>>87608573
You are very dumb!

HAHAHAHAHAHAH
Utter delusion

>>87610857
except he was talking about the popular consensus
>A timeless classic that's still being talked about to this day
That's just wrong, it's not a classic and the only reasion why it's still being talked to this day is for a comparison with the remake

>>87608573
I felt the opposite with Pennywise.

Tim Curry felt like some weird psychopath who'd stab you in the woods after scaring you. Skarsgard felt like a monster controlling his appearance like a marionette.

>>87612829
Don't you mean
>WOH HA HA HA HA

>>87612853
>That's just wrong
So millennials being scared by clowns is just them being retarded millennials, right.

>>87610857
>The mini series is considered a masterpiece of horror
>Popular consensus
Oh am I laffin

>>87608573
>original it
>jump scares

I don't remember any

giant spider

>>87612939
No it's them seeing Poltergeist where the big scare of the movie is a fucking clown. My parents sat a clown in the corner of my room to fuck with me after they showed me Poltergeist. There's a reason Scary Movie riffs that movie instead of IT. It's because everyone's seen Poltergeist.

>>87612939
>he actually think that the fear of clowns is cause by It
I never wished for a post to be bait so much in my life.

>>87608573
>Original Pennywise felt like a threatening cosmic horror with unfathomable power
No, he felt like Tim curry in a clown costume "pranking" the kids in the least scary ways possible.

We all love Tim Curry OP, but that's no reason to be a faggot. The original series was mostly awful.

Tim Curry is the virgin fat manlet. Bill Skarsgård is the big Chad.

>>87613259
Someone make this.

>>87613259
Reverse that and you are right.

Holy fuck im looking forward to when /tv/ stops talking about It. It's so uninteresting

>>87613419
But Bill is 6'4 and Tim is 5'9

>>87613062
drider

>>87613557
wet shadow and bleeding lights in the shape of a spider

>>87611225
You could literally do that with anything faggot.

>The TRex from Jurassic Park was too big.
>Walked out right there.

Kill yourself contratrian cunt.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQHs8HPGGyw

Old Pennywise was a hilarious troll.

>>87612939
>not clownhouse

>>87610288
Only thing I liked other than Tim Curry is seeing little Seth Green.

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>>87608573
>Original It was a masterpiece of the horror genre. A timeless classic that's still being talked about to this day


Dude you didn't watch the newest review

>>87613542
It's not about size you redditor its about having the subtlety to imply horrific things without going OOGABOOGA IMA CHASE YOU

>>87612885
This. I appreciated how it felt and looked like pennywise was merely a vessel being controlled by an evil force.

>>87613259
>>87613351
Someone please make the version of this

>>87611270
He literally says "I am the eater of worlds."

>>87613853

After watching this, I felt like Patrice Oneal after Jim Norton trashed Independence Day

>Original It was a masterpiece of the horror genre. A timeless classic that's still being talked about to this day
>Tim Curry as Pennywise is a timeless performance that's still being talked about to this day
Fixed for accuracy, OP. There's only one reason why anyone bothers remembering the original IT and it sure isn't the story, effects or performances from anyone other than Curry.

>>87608573
>>Original It was a masterpiece of the horror genre. A timeless classic that's still being talked about to this day


all of that is lies and isnt true.

>>87614040
So? He never felt like one. Which is what the post i was quoting implied.

Learn to fucking read, moron.

>Curry has fun with the character, but misses the feel from the book of It having a hillariously huge ego that constantly leads to his own fuckups
>Skars doesnt get to play It, he gets to be the CGIs stunt double in a movie loosely based on the book
The new movie is better, but goddamn I hope the second one does the bit the book had showing just how retarded It actually is. That whole chapter of "Im so fucking superior they only win because I let them" after failing for the 8th time to kill any of the Losers is like a reading any /vg/ rant about "paper is overpowered, scissors needs to git gud t. Rock"

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I grew up watching the original It. Scared me as a kid. I have read the book and rewatched the original and realized how much was left out (for obvious reasons; too lewd and too much detail) but still the mini series was enjoyable for me. I like the story so both films were good in my opinion. I went in with low expectations (as I do with all movies really) and I was entertained. The new movie was worth the $10 my wife and I spent to see it.

I did have a few things in mind to see in the new movie that weren't there but I still liked it.

>>87608573
The TV mini series is not a classic. Tim Curry is an amazing Pennywise, but each part is hot shit minus several well executes scenes in the child segment.

>>87608573
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=houP7mAjZ0o
it wasn't a classic. it was an ASSIC

>>87610615
>$0.03 has been deposited into your account by Warner Bros.

>>87610520

I actually do

>>87608573
The original is boring as fuck you faggot, the movies better, the only thing the original has on it is the creepiness is curry's performance.

>>87608573
Honestly, as cliché as this answer is, both actors did a very good job. Curry as more of a regular psycho clown and Skarsgard as kind of a supernatural force trying to mimic human behaviour.

Overall I liked the new IT much better, both as an adaptation and as its own movie.

>>87608573
>It's just Anabelle with a Clown instead of a demon


If you need RLM to form your opinion, you should not talk about classics.

That said, I'm not gonna see the new IT and I don't know why anyone would.

it being a cheap piece of shit is what made it great.

>>87614337
well if i recall correctly in the book Penny starts directly talking to them pretty much when they're adults

>>87613892
>Curry's Pennywise portrayal
>subtle

Lol I know /tv/ desperately wants to shit on the new movie but "subtle" definitely isn't the word to describe Tim Curry's version of the role. Actually, it isn't suitable for any Curry role ever

>>87615672
Its also a part of the book that if It didnt have such an xbox hueg ego he would have just reached up through the toilet and killed any of them. Thats not even a plothole from some smart ass kid, It literally does that in the book to someone and later actively decides not to do it to the Losers. I hope we get more dialogue out of the clown because It is a fascinating creature, but neither movie really captures what a tool this thing is when you take away the outer layers of OOGA BOOGA *BOOOOOOOM*

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>>87608573
Really makes you think
Also why are the movie bullies so low energy

I couldn't understand some of the new IT's lines. Fucking viking.

>>87613900
especially in that scene in Bill's basement, when he jumps at him and after Bill escapes he just lays there with eyes rolled back and gets fucking DRAGGED away like a corpse.

>Seth Green

It would be cool to see him reprise his role as the adult Richie

>>87608573
take off them nostalgia glasses man, the original IT was fucking trash. I will give you the first half is pretty good but fuck man that second half with the adults is GARBAGE.

Rewatch it and tell me its good, cause you are either retarded or lying.

>>87616331
>Fucking viking

?? Wrong skarsgard

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>Its another /tv/ hates a great film because it defied their expectations
How many of you faggots have actually seen the film, I can tell most of you haven't by the way you talk about it
>MUH I DON'T WANT JUMPSCARES WHERE IS LE SLOW BUILD UP AND TENSION

that shit is literally in the film you would know that if you weren't fucking blind, instead you spout your reddit tier opinions
This movie was GOAT horror

>>87608573

I enjoyed the new one but, as dated as the old one is .. it enjoyed a much longer lasting appeal than the new one will.

It 2017 will be completely forgotten in 5 years.

>>87617320
>It 2017 will be completely forgotten in 5 years.
I doubt it. Especially now that everyone will be anticipating the second movie

>>87613191
only the 2nd half

>>87614337
But he had plenty of tim to kill the Jewish kid in the sewers and the kid who broke his arm.

He spent to much time fucking around with which lead to his defeat.
The moment he sensed that they figured out how to beat his illusions in the house is the moment he should have gotten serious and killed them one by one

>rock battle scene
>hardrock intensifies
Ow god...

>>87619928
for real. the movie was filled with cringy shit like this.

>>87608573
>>Original It was a masterpiece of the horror genre. A timeless classic
I have never heard this uttered anywhere.

>>87619928
That was cool. Typical bully/nerds kinda shit you see in coming of age stories. Don't really anything cringy about it, they're all 13 year olds

>>87619928
>>87620181
Kek you fuckers are trying so hard to hate on the new movie it's hilarious

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>>87608573
i enjoyed both original and the recent one

>>87608573
What a stupid opinion. The original is complete fucking garbage which starred the wacky judge from Night Court for fucks sake.

>>87620388
Wait wait I'm in the middle of it and the gangnam style scene will come off soon

>>87608573
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl9DTYQ5jU8&feature=youtu.be

>>87620819
Great job you did here

>>87610325
You're a fucking tard that has most likely never read the book

Haven't seen the movie, but the book and miniseries was shit. It's a flawed premise that isn't scary and is very stupid.

The fact there's a child orgy should speak volumes to the prowess of Stephen King

People will treat anything as sacrosanct as soon as you remake it, no matter what it is. It could be a 3 hour documentary chronicling the journey of a turd after you flush it and people will still write longform magazine articles on the virtues of the original compared to the remake no matter how awful or average the thing was.

>>87621246
He's a hack.

>>87621160
The child orgy in the book makes the book stupid.

>>87608573
>>Original It was a masterpiece of the horror genre. A timeless classic that's still being talked about to this day
The novel? Yeah. The 1990 miniseries? Fuck no. The miniseries hasn't aged well at all. The acting is all over the place, the special effects have aged like milk and the end is a mess.

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>>87608573
>still being talked about to this day
it's only being talked about right now cause there's a remake out

>>87614337
>>87615672
>>87616055
Yeah I'm pretty sure that it keeps losing because of the turtle and not its own ego. It's also aware that the turtle is making it unable to kill the losers

The miniseries has Tim Curry but that's it. The film is better than the miniseries in almost every way. Better acting, better cinematography, better special effects, I could go on and on. I really hate to use the term "nostalgia glasses" but only people blinded by nostalgia could seriously think the miniseries is a masterpiece that stands head and shoulders above the film

>>87611270

original pennywise came off as just some pedophile/cannibal in a clown suit.

>this opinion is 10x as prevalent here after the RLM review
Really gets the neurons firing

>>87621945
Total coincidence!

>>87621945
Really makes me think

>>87621465
I see you are a CGI loving fuck who can't stop shitting on practical effects

One of the reasons why the original It is so liked is because of the great practical effects

>>87610520
I saw Seth Green in the clips they showed in the latest Half in the Bag, but I figured it couldn't be Seth Green because I would have known if he was in the movie.

>>87622121
>One of the reasons why the original It is so liked is because of the great practical effects
LOL

>>87608573
nearly all of the Pennywise scenes people remember as being good are from the adult half which everyone says sucks

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>>87622121
>great practical effects
John Carpenter's The Thing has great practical effects, David Cronenberg's The Fly has great practical effects, IT (1990) has really shitty practical effects.

Quite with your nostalgic bullshit. It wasn't that good and neither was the new one. The book is so fucking long that you can't get all the good details in a 3hr movie. It needs to be done like 11/22/63 and have it cover more

>>87622121
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lpb0Kh3e2GE

It's like you haven't seen the miniseries at all.

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>>87608573
>>Original It was a masterpiece

Take off those nostalgia goggles and realize that the original was a bloated mess that didn't adapt to the source material well enough since it's a monster of a novel to begin with.

Pros
>Pennywise scenes

Cons
>Adult scenes
>PG-13 horror
>mediocre acting from both adults and kids version
>special effects spoiled like milk
>kid Bev

>>87622194
The problem with the adult half is the Pennywise scenes are the only good scenes. The dialogue is soap opera tier and the acting is even worse.

>>87622121
>Great practical effects
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>87621334
Everyone knows about the gang bang you dunce what are Henry and the other bully Patrick? I think. Doing when he tries to give him a hand job and Henry beats him up?

>>87622271
and you know what, it's gonna look much better than the new It Spider

The original looked so real because it was actually real, that's why kids were afraid of it

the new one is gonna be a CGI giant spider that everyone will forget about after a week

>>87622395
Even by TV standards the effects in the It miniseries are bad. The effects in Salem's Lot are better even though it's over a decade older than the It miniseries.

>>87622121
See:
>>87622442

>>87622395
>The original looked real because it was real
Listen, that thing about austrailian spiders is a joke. They dont get much bigger than a dinner plate. That spider in the movie was a giant puppet

>>87622442
It's really not fair to compare IT to Salem's Lot because the scope of the effects are quite different.

>>87608573
>clown in corner looking spooky
>loud noise and clown spasams and runs towards camera
>kid just slowly runs away uninjured

Do people really find this scary? They did it like 6 times through the movie. Wasn't scary. Only creepy scene was the slide projector in the garage. 6/10

>Show two friends the original who have never seen it
>Neither of them think it was scary, spent more time laughing and finding it comedic than anything
>We go see the new one
>They actually got scared

I just watched IT and it felt like Steven king is a HUGE pedo.

Did I have to watch 13 year olds strip??? It added nothing to the movie???

>>87614090
/thread

Anyone know if this leaked in non russian yet?

I like Nu-Pennywise but his design is just a little too tryhard scary. Tim Curry looked like an actual clown at least.

>>87622494
True but I think it should be really emphasized that the effects in the It miniseries aren't good. A small handful of the effects have held up well but most of them are laughably bad.

>>87621945
It's an easy way to oust anyone who hasn't seen the movie, they misinterpret Jay saying "obnoxious loud banging noises" with jumpscares, when the jumpscares are few and far between

>>87616289
>cut an H into the fat kid with a knife
medium energy

>>87622717
60% of the movie is the dumb cgi clown popping out and going "BOO!" while obnoxious noises play. Loud noises and jumps aren't scary at all!

>>87622653
Agreed, but the new look did work for him.

David in Alien Covenant is a scarier villain than le cgi "BOO!" clownman.

Did they set up the new movie for a sequel where the kids are grown up?

Book any good?

>>87608573
>that's still being talked about to this day
No it fucking wasn't you fedora wearing snob

>>87623192
Yes.

Serious shit though, I really liked Ben and Stan's fears - they didn't totally terrify me, but I just really liked how they were in the movie. That's all.

>>87623116
It literally ends with the words "IT: Chapter One" I also heard there was an after credits jumpscare but I'm not gonna waste my time in the theater for that shit

>>87623293
>I also heard there was an after credits jumpscare
The people who told you that were lying. Near the end of the credits the music swells and you hear Pennywise laugh but that's it. There isn't a post-credits scene.

haven't read the book, or seen the movie. stephen king is for plebs

>>87613050
the second line was supposed to be "New IT"

>>87617115
>instead you spout your reddit tier opinions
except reddit loves the movie

>This movie was GOAT horror
really makes me think

>>87623237
I know Stan's fear was the painting but what was Ben's? The only sequence where IT targets him is the one with the book

>>87623454
Ben's was the headless child in the library chasing him

>>87623192
No.

ignore >>87623233, and ask >>>/lit/ if you want non-reddit opinions

>>87622717
The score really is the worst. The film itself doesn't rely on jumpscares, but it's scored as if it does. It feels like they scored it over the course of one afternoon while they were all tired and just wanted to go have a nap.

>How do we make this scene scary?
>Loud sound
>Won't that undercut the tension we've been building for the last ten minutes?
>Fuck it.

>>87623648
I can really only recall like 3 jumpscares the entire movie desu

>>87616402
Hell you can even tell that Georgie is merely an extension of Pennywise's arm as It stands up out of the water. Like a literal decomposing water-logged marionette.

It was very creepy and Skarsgard definitely did a great job hitting that uncanniness of Pennywise that Curry didn't quite have.

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>>87608573
>Neither has the sewer sex scene orgy

both are trash

>>87623648
I feel like scenes like the projector scene and the basement scene would have been genuinely scary if it weren't for the score.

>>87623825
I like to think it was the unfocused eyes and the insane amount of drool

WAS THE SEWER TRAIN SCENE IN IT

>>87608573
>Original It was a masterpiece of the horror genre. A timeless classic
if you saw the last redlettermedia, you'd know that it's not

>>87623930
>redlettermedia

Neck yourself

>>87619928
>literally played by an 80s thrash metal band (Anthrax)
>song is literally called "Antisocial"
>not Kino

Pleb detected

>>87623875
>Eyes and drool
Bill actually used his lazy eye to add more of a creepiness factor to the clown and the teeth they had him use made him drool a lot, so he went with it

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A fully equipped Arnold and his Special Operation mates in the sewers hunting for IT.

Is he successful?

>>87623930
kys

>>87608573
>Original It was a masterpiece of the horror genre. A timeless classic that's still being talked about to this day
Where the fuck are you getting this from mouth breather?

>>87623930
I don't to watch your imaginary e-celeb friends to know the mini-series is a piece of shit

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The originals only redeeming feature was Tim Curry. The kid actors were shit. The adult actors were shit. The sets were shit.

I'm gonna see the new one this week, I hope it's better.

>>87608573
>Original It was a masterpiece of the horror genre. A timeless classic that's still being talked about to this day
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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I had a dream that I went to see IT and Cary Fukunaga was there, but when I asked him a question he pretended he could only speak Japanese. Then his assistant asked me to direct the next season of True Detective. Then Pennywise turned up but he wasn't very scary. Then I woke up.

>>87624019
They enter the sewers, immediately forget what they were doing there, and then leave, IT doesn't fuck with adults unless he's targeting them

>>87620471
That's right Jay!

>>87624080
It's better.

>>87623875
Skarsgard's natural lankiness and the quilted aspect of his costume made Its limbs seem even more unnaturally long than they already were.

He really was an almost perfect Pennywise.

>people thought the CG in It was bad
Explain

>>87624537
I'm going to be honest, I didn't realize it was CG until IT starting doing impossible shit like the fridge scene

>>87623894
In Fukunaga's original script it was, yes.

It was cut from the film due to rewrites though and that's why Fukunaga stepped down as the director.

>we will never see Sophia Lillia gang banged by post-pubescent boys

>>87624687
The fridge part was fucking kino why isn't there a webm of that yet. And Skarsgard actually fit himself in that fridge too. He learned contortionism just for that scene

>>87624080
Your assessment is correct.

The film is good and much better than the miniseries.

Pennywise is actually closer to how he acts in the novel than the miniseries in this film and Skarsgard nails the role.

>>87624687
Skarsgard actually did the non-impossible contortions himself in that scene

>>87608573
The original was a horrible piece of shit, pure millenial nostalgia.

https://streamable.com/88mbm

>>87624774
I'm gonna need sauce on that.

Because the fridge scene was freaky as fuck but not once did it NOT seem like CGI to me.

I wouldn't put it past Bill though, he seemed very dedicated to the character. He and the director decided not to introduce himself to the kid actors until he was fully in costume and filming the first scene where Pennywise appears, making a lot of their terror partially genuine.

>>87624888
No, it was a masterpiece because of Tim Curry! Tim Curry was the perfect Pennywise! TIM CURRY TIM CURRY I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER ARGUMENTS BUT I REFUSE TO ACCEPT THE MINISERIES WASN'T GOOD TIM CURRY TIM CURRY TIM CURRY TIM CURRY!

>>87608620
I like how every time "It" gets a thread someone has to shit on King. He's well aware of his hack status. He famously said in a Time interview in '86 that his books were the literary equivalent of a big Mac and fries and that he only had 3 original ideas in his entire career. That aside, I disagree slightly. His early short story collections were tight, atmospheric, and brutal. After he fried his brain on untold amounts of cocaine, pain pills and ego stroking, his writing suffered massively. However, to let a pleb like you slight someone with more talent in his pinky than your entire being is unconscionable. Fuck off, Dean Koontz.

>>87624986
>Fuck off, Dean Koontz.
Is Dean notoriously salty towards King?

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>>87624905
That shot was less than second as oppose to this goofy face that went on for several seconds

>>87613351

The Virgin Float vs. The Chad Clog

>>87624940
KEK

>>87608573
First half of the series was good. Second half was really bad and brings the whole thing down.

>>87625002
They fought outside of a Barnes and Noble several years back and King broke Koontz's nose and orbital socket

>>87612939
>implying you're not a millennial

>>87625265

HACK FIGHT!!!!!

>>87625265
>They fought outside of a Barnes and Noble

Life truely does immitate art.

>>87610182
I saw it yesterday and it is shit, it's not just a shit version but it's a shit, poorly made film that is almost always ridiculous and never scarey. The only fucking way that all these threads saying the new one is great have come about must be through shilling, I actually assumed it would be good after seeing them.

>>87608573
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQPfPEJsswI

>>87610857
Over 100 million dollars says other wise you faggot

>>87608573
>abuses jumpscares and doesn't try to be a great movie. It's just Anabelle with a Clown instead of a demon

there was a single jump scare, and it was good.

>>87610615
Tim Curry is genuinely fucking terrifying and always will be, his pennywise has never lost its impact. This one is just fucking stupid, literally every decision about his portrayal is wrong and he achieves the incredible result of actually dispelling all the tension from fear in every single scene by being so stupid, you absolute fucking cretin, go shill on twitter instead.

I have never watched the 90s version but I'm thinking about seeing the 2017 one, which one should I watch first?

I haven't watched the original IT since I was young but I remembered it being scary and I thought it was a beloved classic until this new movie came out. what the fuck.

>>87608573
Why was the original set in the 50's but the new one set in the 80's? What is it in the book?

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>>87608573
>Original It was a masterpiece of the horror genre. A timeless classic

>>87626921
for the remake they wanted the adult part to take place in the modern times

>>87626549
It is. /tv/ is being contrarian.

>>87626444
Watch the 1990 one first with the knowledge that it was a tv-movie with the budget of a ham sandwich

Even the book was full of cringy scenes.

>the kids being attacked by giant bird in sewer
>jewboy suddenly started to make weird ass hand gestures like he was ninja and shit
>chanting bird names like it was spells could kill
>IT ACTUALLY WORKED

I mean, WTF? Am I reading the novel version of Nrauto or what?
If you call this a classic of horror, I can't even imagine what would you consider Nratuo to be. The holy script of horror amybe?

>>87624169
What if he tries to target a really smartass and mature smug kid who just laughs at him and doenst give a fuck?will he cut the bullshit and just kill the lil shit or will he change targets?

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>>87626956
>I toss reddit letter media salad

>>87627303
Yeah, IT was a rambling mess. King can't finish his stories and is only intriguing for the first half of his books. He's the American Horror Story of literature.

>>87623858
>le ebin orgy meme
Fucking kill yourself.

>>87624986
Koontz is pretty good himself. I like both.

>>87627808
It would be fucking terrified by the fact that some smug kid isn't scared of him and retreat hoping the kid didn't want to pick a fight

>>87628518
He could still physically murder the kid. It's just his least favorite thing to do when they don't taste right.

>>87628797
He was visibly disgusted when he sniffed Bev, brave kids probably taste like shit

>>87628153
It's a shame since the concepts and mythology of the Dark Tower are cool as fuck.

>>87612939
Millenials being afraid of clowns is the result of CIA psyop that involves IT, Poltergeist, Jon Oliver, and hundreds of other projects.

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>>87608573

>>87629047

>Jon Oliver

lol wut

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>>87608573
>tfw listening to the audiobook right now so I can shit all over the new movie without people saying I haven't read the book

>>87629659
Cringe

Saw the new movie today.
Outside of the designs the writing was fucking butchered and the pacing and sound editing sucked shit. It's better than the miniseries but not by much.

Why penny didn't turn into hitler for the jew kid?

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Daily reminder the final boss in the MCU is literally a grapefruit.

>>87629908
1) That's not what grapferuits look like at all.
2) What the fuck does this have to do with It?
3) Filtered.

>>87630074
how does it not

The most terrifying moments for me was the library scene with the librarian just watching grinning in the background of a shot and all the television stuff.

It wasn't in the RLM review though so I guess my feelings and opinions are wrong

>>87629908
>he thinks grapefruit look like grapes

New movie
>Better than expected
>Not as good as it could of been
>Got away with a lot for an American horror movie.
>Still didn't push the boundaries enough and came of as downright goofy at points
>Doesn't develop many of the characters enough.

Miniseries
>Childhood terror
>Hasn't aged well
>Tim Curry carries movie on his back
>Like watching other older Steven King based films.
>Not as good as the Misery film adaption.

Personally, I thought the characters in the new one seemed much more fleshed out, though I think they went a little overboard with the CGI usage in it.

Skarsgard was good. While Curry seemed more affably evil, Skarsgard seemed much more menacing. Unfortunately, he seemed scarier in the parts when he was talking rather than when he was actually attacking the children.

I think the relationships between the Losers seemed much stronger in the original. And, not to mention, Bev's dad. If anything, I think he was the creepiest character out of all of them.

The main issues I had with the new one were the over-usage of CGI, how the movie itself couldn't seem to decide whether it was PG-13 or R in it's horror aspect (some pretty gruesome scenes, others, more tame), and the face it seemed that everything mentioned in the movie had to be shown at some point: for example, I preferred the original in the aspect that you never actually knew what Pennywise meant by "floating" down here, in the original, those mysterious mentions are left in the dark, which I think adds more to the horror.
Original IT: 5/10 purely because of Curry.
New IT: 5/10.

Also, what the fuck was up with the whole deadlights deal?

>87630074

>painting a grapefruit purple
>make it wrinkly for added Palpatine old aura

as expected of the Marvel Studios paintjob assembly line

>>87630406
I thought I was the only one who noticed the librarian.

>>87608573
Old "It" was hilariously funny and unusual. The new one is just your average "scary" movie that everyone has seen a hundred times already. No one gives a shit about it except for normalfags with a short attention span. And they will move on to the next "very scary and cool" movie when it gets out.

>>87612853
not true, it's a cult classic for many people who were kids when it came out.

>>87608573
I tell people to watch the new IT if they want to see a Stranger Things spinoff. But if they want to experience Stephen King's IT, listen to the audio book and get their shit rocked.

This movie played it safe and didn't explore what made IT or Pennywise terrifying. They touched on it with moments where adults ignored the horror happening to the kids or where other adults were horrific without IT manipulating them. It's an exhausting helpless feeling that the losers only overcome through the bond they share and the power lended to them by the turtle.

It's a shame, but oh well.

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>>87610520
Crazy to think he looked tallish next to the other child actors

>>87614068
but ID4 is trash

>>87619928
Why do The Force Awakens / Wonder Woman fans fans hate Anthrax?

>>87630491
>Got away with a lot for an American horror movie.
like what? chewing an arm off? who gives a fuck

Old It was both a character and a monster

New It is just pure monster.

>>87631868
Which makes the nu movie generic and boring. Without the clown act, he is just an evil spirit with makeup on. Guess what other horror movies have evil spirits?

>>87608573

RLM said the book and TV-Series were shit so I agree with them.

>>87624080
both are shit

>>87624695
I gotta ask, how would that work ratings wise? i know most people hopefully are being "le edgy memesters" but how the hell would you work a scene like that in without the feds getting involved or the film getting banned.

>>87632378
by using metaphors, using it off camera or censoring very hard

>>87632401
Eh i guess but it's a pretty stupid scene, some guy tried telling me "well they wont forget because they wont forget their first time" and it's like "fag they just dealt with a clown spider thing im pretty sure that's traumatic enough".

>>87616289
Meanwhile These bullies are all clones of one greaser. Not really helping

In 4 days, IT sold enough tickets to make back over 5 times its production costs, set more than a couple box office records, and set itself up for blockbuster status.

Was IT a great movie? Well, not really, but it IS a must-see for Steven King fans, and everyone who liked the book and the old mini-series with Tim Curry as Pennywise.

King fans-- the sort that dote on everything he's written-- are a strange bunch, and some of the most vicious arguments I've ever been involved in were with his fan club. King has written two and a half great novels, a lot of excellent short stories, and a giant pile of steaming offal. Try to read the Dark Tower series without incurring brain damage or swearing off the written word forever, yet there are literate idiots that will defend that dreck.

King fans, and in specific, IT (the novel) fans HAD to buy a ticket. These fans also HAD to cry like freshly spanked pubescent tweeners when they witnessed an 1,100+ page epic novel crammed into a two and a quarter hour flick: "character development! establishing scenes! background motivation!" they'll snivel.

OK, you have a huge novel as source, a small budget, but potentially a huge fan base... what do you do? Hire a director who cut his Hollywood teeth on commercials. Then the script will take fractions of half the novel, assemble them like snap together pieces of a linear jigsaw puzzle, and while it doesn't really tell the story, it's enough to sell tickets; lots of tickets.

For the mini series fans, Skarsgård is no Tim Curry, although his makeup is far better as is his accompanying cgi. However, still no character development, no background, just brief scenes, one per character, to establish motivation.

The timing of the release was calculated as well. A low budget horror movie released in September, make some fat stacks, let it crash, then the director's cut shows up on pay channels, disc, and netflicks for Halloween.

>>87626418
>Tim Curry is genuinely fucking terrifying and always will be, his pennywise has never lost its impact
Oh yeah, I remember how terrifying it was when he was yelling jokes, and laughing like an asshole. A creepy asshole! I shit and peed my pants!

Why did Tim Curry's IT sound like an old Jewish grandma?

>>87626418
>Tim Curry is genuinely fucking terrifying and always will be, his pennywise has never lost its impact.
There's a reason no one takes you fucks seriously, Jesus Christ

>>87608573
>>Original It was a masterpiece of the horror genre.
wrong
> A timeless classic
wrong
>that's still being talked about to this day
mostly laughed at today
>>Original Pennywise felt like a threatening cosmic horror
No, he felt like Tim Curry shtick.
>with unfathomable power
He got pushed over and hit with a slingshot.

So I guess that clown craze a year ago was just some viral marketing bullshit.