Well there's 63 Million potential viewers who won't

how do you say make america great again in Klingon?

>can't separate art from the artist

Imagine being this much of a pleb

>>87571980
No one wants to watch propaganda. People want to be entertained. This isn't Orwell and 1984

Imagine being such a pleb that you actually want political propaganda in everything you watch. Desperately needing Hollywood to reassure your pathetic political values

>>87571830
chenmoH America Dunqa'

>>87571980
yeah a quote like that just screams "art"

>>87571744
No one was gonna watch this shit anyway. Star Trek has been done to death.

>>87572861
lol thank you

>>87571744
Star Trek always had left-leaning morals, you retard.

Trump voter =/= Trump supporter
A lot of people didn't specifically vote for Trump, they either voted Republican or voted against Shillary.

will hollywood ever get its head out of its own asshole?

>>87571744
Does that mean that Hillary supporters believe in white genocide and neoimperialist wars?

>>87571744
Watch The Orville tonight instead.

Will this still only be available on some random CBS stream?

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>>87571744
you white boys think awfully highly of yourselves don't you?

>>87572269
>No one wants to watch propaganda

It's fucking Star Trek you filthy poltard.

I think the Star Trek crews have caused worse problems in their meddling than Klingons, so that might be compliment. Nearly every episode is about them fucking up and having to sort out the mess they created.

>>87574801
That's what I heard too. If that's the case this show is DOA.

>>87574437
lo no, Star Trek was about being an explorer, being bold, not a whinny bitch and accepting of other cultures while protecting your own. That's not including that it's about war with different communist species (borg, romulans)

>>87572269
klingons have always been like this though, its not like the new show changes anything.

>>87571744
If the Klingons are isolationists wouldn't they want to be left alone. Yet in the trailer it looks like they want to fuck shit up.

>>87571744
Not even American but I'm not watching this trash, and I like startrek.

>>87574991
isolationists would fuck shit up if they feel like they are being encroached upon

being isolationist doesnt mean you let people walk all over you

>>87574775
Orville will be even worse.

>>87574801
>>87574971
Available on Netflix outside of America.

>>87575041
But that doesn't seem like the type of thing the Federation would do.

>>87574437
It's ironic in the alternative universe humanity turned liberal thanks to spock and got conquered.

>>87574991
Apparently the show will explore the 24 different Great Houses of the Empire. Some of them want isolationism, some of them don't.

>>87575115
that sounds like exactly the sort of the the federation would do on accident.

>>87574437
The point is that left wing morals have made a fucking 360 in the last 10 years.
Try telling Gene that the new federation is some authoritarian shithole throwing people in jail for wrongthink.

>>87575115
The federation LOVES doing that shit on "accident".
Then use the ensuing international crisis to get even more gains in land.

>>87574838
>SMACKS LIPS

>>87575262
the irony of this post

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>we will literally never get another series past voyager in the timeline

>>87575214
>throwing people in jail for wrongthink
If by "wrongthink" you mean hatespeech and incitement of violence then, yes, that does happen.

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>>87571980
>art
Heh, go outside and play hide and go fuck yourself.

>>87575068
Netflix will help for sure, but burgers want nothing to do with yet another shitty streaming service.

>>87575474
>hatespeech and incitement of violence

Nebulous and arbitrary terms that allow the government to control the range of dialog in a country under the guise of moral policing. Orwell is spinning in his grave.

>>87574890
what group did the harberts compare the Klingons with, you brainwashed cuck?

>>87575707
So if some psycho unironically threatened to murder you and your entire family you wouldn't phone the police because "MUH FREEDOM"?

>>87574979
>klingons always represented trump supporters
:^)

If you are a conservative and a fan of Star Trek you're fucking retarded in the first place

>>87571744
>abloobloo why is /tv/ about politics all the time
>oh look another libtard numale millionaire cocksucker with Guevarra posters in his bedroom making his kiddy show about politics

I hope anons are making notes. When everything goes tits up, we cannot let these faggots run off to some tax haven paradise.

>>87575868
Not who you were replying to, but that is a massive fucking straw man. 0/10

>>87575904
No u

>>87571744
>muh 63 gorillion
>implying Trump supporters were ever smart enough to watch any Star Trek shows

>>87575868
>So if some psycho unironically threatened to murder you and your entire family you wouldn't phone the police because "MUH FREEDOM"?
Mate, the context matters entirely. If he's in my property with a knife in his hands then that is a credible threat and becomes a physical issue instead of a speech issue. Some monkey yelling in the street that he hates someone isn't an issue to anything. Letting the government arbitrarily decide what is or isn't hatespeech is the worst path to go down and your infinite hubris prevents you from seeing how much that can harm you. The only reason you make these ridiculous scenarios is that you've been borderline programmed to think in extremes.

>>87574979
>klingons have always been like this though
Actually, you are thinking of Romulans, >>87571744
completely describes Romulans

A real star trek fan would know that, clearly the writers are not that

>>87575904
I don't avoid good shows that don't align with my politics. That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard.

>>87576413
Right, thats what the echo chamber people do. Real trek fans write hatemail and fill up forums and newsgroups while never missing an ep.

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>>87575474
>hatespeech
>retard oblivious to the fact that Stalin pushed for 'international hatespeech laws' in almost the carbon copy version of what leftist espouse nowadays
>Roosevelt recognized it for the subversive horseshit it was and put a stop to it

Can you cocksuckers stop perpetuating all of the shit that was here before and caused only misery and death?

Hollywood is a business, not a charity. Your job is to put asses in the seats.You need to sell to everyone, not just your chosen little choir. This nothing but common sense and anyone who tells you otherwise, for any reason, is a complete and total idiot.

>>87574890
>wah wah wah everyone who disagrees with me is pol!!

>>87575898
>If you are a fan of Star Trek you're fucking retarded in the first place
FTFY

>>87571744
Normies are just getting wind of this on Fakebook and Twitter. Let me tell you, this shit is blowing up in Paramount's face FAST.

I'm sure the /pol/ crowd will have a field day with this one.

>>87576650
cringe

>>87571744
Well the new series was doomed to fail anyway, so it's all the same for them to go out in a blaze of something.

>>87576711
Links?

>>87576758
Cry harder.

>>87571744
>Klingons believe in racial purity and isolationism

They sound like Jews desu

>>87576840
8 more years #magapede!!!

>>87576935
kek, someone needs to shoop the klingons with israeli flags

Is he seriously implying the only people on the entire planet Earth that believe in racial purity and isolationism are Trump supporters?

This is the mental bubble liberals live in.

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Will Trekkies ever recover?

>>87576711
Why? Hollywood, comics and videogames are going down the drain fast and profits are thinning. Marvel went to shit so hard that even Disney execs are starting to grumble. Only thing you need to do is to make whites buying hiphop shit.
Curiously, the music industry didn't go full retard as others do.

Ball is already rolling, you will have a population that is unable to unwind, and pressure will just grow, just because a bunch of retards just cannot help to shove their defunct political shit in entertainment.

>>87577101
>Rick Berman

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Insert screenshots of violent picard murdering anyone he can

Stop conflating Klingons and Romulans.

>>87577145
Hollywood just had its worse Summer in over a decade because people are finally sick of their politics infesting literally everything. Granted, Star Wars comes out during the Winter and normies flock to that garbage regardless of quality.

>>87577206
typical hollywood liberal talks about race and cant even tell the different between the two

#NotallKlingons

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>>87571744
Well, technically, he is not wrong.
It has been widely documented how Trump is very appealing to white supremacist and Neo-nazis and the role they played in promoting the Trump candidacy and how they are very pleased with Trump's actions, so a paralelism between this very outspoken and prominent segment of Trump's base and a fictional race of racist xenophobic aliens is not irrational.

I believed that the series would eventually end up the way that CSI predicted long ago.

Instead it was every other series that did, but this doesn't look much better off.

>>87577392
>Trump is very appealing to white supremacist and Neo-nazis
Except for the fact that he has black supporters.
Except for the fact that he has hispanic supporters.
Except for the fact that he has asian supporters.
Except for the fact that he openly called out the KKK and neo nazis.
Except for the fact that he supports Israel and has a jewish daughter.

But yeah, your Hillary Clinton inspired conspiracy theory lunacy makes total sense. How do I subscribe to your newsletter you mentally ill nut job?

>>87571744
This is highly amusing given that the Federation is massively fascist. That Film Theory dude did a pretty good explanation video on it.

>>87577206
Klingons are more like Mongols or something. Romulans are so isolationist that the Federation didn't even know what they looked like until Balance of Terror (a century after they fought a major war with them).

>>87577206
To be fair almost all ST major races show xenophobic traits. You just pick whatever serves better for your example.
>Klingons: Violent dumb racists
>Romulans: Maquiavelic racists
>Vulcans: Intellectual smug racists
>Cardassians: War mongering racist

>>87577265
Well see about Star Wars, it will profit but if it is considerably less than expected then they will panic.
I won't go to see it. In retrospect, both movies were really, really bad and it set up the tone of the franchise. Even on Wookiepedia there is no passion for new material and even new main books have articles that can be considered a stub.

>>87577515
>taking the bait

>>87577392
>white supremacist and Neo-nazis
A whole 5000 people out of the 63 million who voted for him. Whoa. #ImWithHer

>>87577589
I'm not going to see it. I was dragged to the first one by a thot and didn't see Rogue One. I've got no interest in what Disney is doing to Star Wars. I'd take more meme shit from George Lucas over this garbage.

>>87577568
>Vulcans: Intellectual smug racists

Their slogan is "Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations", kind of the opposite of racist.

>>87577515
Trump speaks in a very vague way. He basically just plays the crowd and goes with whenever makes people cheer.
His vague statements can make people find whatever they want to hear, sort of like a televangelist, that's why he found some very niche segements among minorities, but his appeal to white supremacist is undeniable.
Also I never supported Clinton, I don't know where you get that from.

>>87577515

You think because he has black supporters that means he can't have Nazi supporters? There's a reason David Duke is a big Trump fan.

>>87577703
t. Never seen a Trump speech

>>87577725
Oh please. Take your smug liberal racism elsewhere.

>>87577725
> literal embodiment of the establishment and the elites, not to mention a liar and mentally ill
Versus
> the dude who wants to stop all the bullshit the establishment does

But no, youre right, the only reason people voted for him is racism. You utter mongoloid. Shit bait 0/10

>>87571744
Translation: Dear Trumpers, don't watch our new show. Love, Paramount.

>>87577392
>It has been widely documented how Trump is very appealing to white supremacist and Neo-nazis and the role they played in promoting the Trump candidacy
don't kid yourself

>they are very pleased with Trump's actions
lel, have you ever been to pol, he could sneeze and they'd call it a betrayal

>>87577929
>taking the bait
>again

>>87577725
>There's a reason David Duke is a big Trump fan

Because he's controlled opposition. I don't see you complaining that Hillary's former mentor was a KKK Grand Wizard.

>>87577725
Hillary Clinton's political mentor was an actual I'll member, and Obama's family pastor celebrated 9/11. Having I'll supporters does not make you a racist, I'll members like waffle house does that make it a racist restaurant?

>>87575868

you're literally making a strawman of the exception to free speech. Good job retard

>>87571744
I mean, he's not wrong.

>>87578000
> reveal your retardation
> HEH HEH IT WUS BAIT U GUIZE HEH IM SO SMART AND U STOOPID
> expects that to not just further prove your retardation

Liberalism really is a mental disorder famalam

>leftists think speech that hurts their fees fees is "hate speech"

>>87571744
Rural retards don't have television, progressive urbanites will watch the show

>>87575214
>The point is that left wing morals have made a fucking 360 in the last 10 years.
>360
wew lad

>>87578069
I am not OP

>>87577725

He has far more black supporters than 'Nazi' supporters. Also, it's not 1939, the Nazi party doesn't exist anymore and there are maybe 3-5k KKK/Neo-Nazis in America who don't really even do anything.

>>87578103

>falling for the 360 bait

>>87578081
Turns out people with higher education and IQ voted for Trump. :)

>>87577101
Shaka, when the walls fell.

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>>87577145
>Marvel went to shit so hard that even Disney execs are starting to grumble.
What the actual fuck are you talking about? Aside from Inhuman's reception, which ABC is bitching about, not Disney proper because they only give a damn about the movies and toy merch, Marvel is doing great.

Let me guess, you think GotG was supposed to hit a billion because some falseflaggers on /tv/ told you so. Or do you actually think Homecoming is a flop when its ontrack to do 900 million and its not even a Disney movie, its a Sony movie.

>>87578183

>replying to a meme bait

>>87578202
He's talking about the comics division too. They're basically hemorrhaging money and would probably be going out of business if it wasn't for Disney keeping them afloat.

>>87578124
And i clearly did not reply to the original post. Are you blind as well as dumb?

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>>87571744
Set course for diversity!

based klingons

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>>87578080
>tfw you realized sjws and alt-right are two sides of the thin-skinned, easily triggered coin
>tfw you're old enough to know life is about the greys and not black and white bullshit most of this cambodian imagur thinks it is

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>>87571744
> yet another reboot
> labeling long time fans racists and misogynists
> no connection to earlier series
> cast full of stronk womyn and minorities
> only White male character is a homo
> ship designed by a kindergartner
> SJW propaganda storylines
> episodes only viewable via pay site
> Klingons are Trump supporters!

I can’t wait for STD to crash and burn.

>>87571744
Oh boy another /tv/ prediction thread!
Someone screencap this for when it turns out the new Star Trek is a big hit.

>>87575904
>Socially liberal
>Economically conservative
>Gay
>You can't like star trek stop it!
Also having actually watched star trek I can tell you that there's a number of episodes that tell you why demonizing your political opponents makes you the retard. But most people just gloss over any lessons that don't reinforce their world view.

>Empire expands thousands of light years and keeps expanding conquering more and more worlds
>Isolationism
ok

>>87578250
Yeah, the comics have definitely gone to shit, no denying that. But its not like comics aren't a dying industry to begin with.

It's not like DC is doing that great financially compared to a decade ago and thats with the growing disgust with Marvel.

>>87578354
>the new Star Trek is a big hit.

>on an online streaming service that no one will pay for

LEL

This show is like aids, well, is called STD after all

>>87574838

spotted the racist

>>87578399
>It's not like DC is doing that great financially compared to a decade ago
They are though. Marvel is bringing the whole industry down, they're using the same tactics that crashed the comic market in the 90s and made them go bankrupt.

>leftists think a post scarcity economy is socialism

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>>87572269
you do realize that Star Trek has always been progressive as fuck right?

And also Trump is fucked. History will regard him as the worst President ever. Stop getting triggered by people that point that out. And stop expecting people to pander to you just because you're retarded and support retarded shit.

why do racists get so worked up when they get called out?

>>87571744
>implying anybody was going to watch this new Star Trek shit

Star trek was always a progressive utopian wet dream.

>>87578513
>drumpf will be impeached any day now!

did you losers move on from the muh Russia narrative?

>>87578527
Because some races are objectively better than othes

>>87578527
I don't like to imagine what goes on in a liberal's mind.

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>>87571744
So, the fan favorite race that everyone love, that people learn a FICTIONAL LANGUAGE just because they are so cool, will be the "trump suporters"

>>87578527
they dont like being told black people are inferior. because they know it's true.

>>87571744
>surely everything would appease my feelings if the creators were only smart enough to make it that way!

>>87578513
>History will regard him as the worst President ever.
Not really, his approval is so low now that it will be up by the end of his presidency

Historically, Presidents that started out with low approvals were liked more as time passed.

Bush and Obama both had high approvals at the start of their presidency, and really low towards the ends. And now are regarded as some of the worst presidents.

>>87578587
I'm sure that won't backfire like everything else that liberals are doing nowadays.

>>87571744
It's always hard enough to do a series like Star Trek justice.

When you start making political statements about the show before it even airs then it is a sign that it's going to be bad.

>>87578587
>Klingon are the bad guys in the TOS era
woah

>>87571744
I can't think of other example or Hollywood burning up a franchise that has made them money for 50 years.

>>87574706
Will Trumptards?

>>87578587
>Worf is now a Trump supporter

I'm sure Trekkies are thrilled about this.

>>87578789
I love watching the left continue to destroy themselves. They did the exact same thing in the early 80s.

>>87578789
we need worf pictures wuth maga hats

>>87578828
I wish they'd stay dead.

>>87577392
Dems are very appealing to the nationalists of the other races.

>>87571980
>having to separate art from the artist when the artist cant separate their ideals from their art

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>>87571744
*tips fedora*

>>87578762
If they make any more Harry Potter movies, they will be nothing but SJW trash.

>>87579067
KEK

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>>87579067
YES

Worf would never be a weak faggot leftist

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>>87579067
Clinton HAS no HONOR!

>>87577701

That's a quote about the universe in general, not their species.

>>87578789
Worf was always a larping faggot anyway

>>87571744
Klingons in TOS were a stand in for the USSR and while they were major antagonists, the end point of the show was that hopefully we could all live together in peace, which happens in TNG

Making Klingons a stand in for people you think are literally Satan is shitting all over Roddenberry

>>87579139
>>87579067
You know what's funny about Worf? He represents the shift from Klingons being a bronze skinned alien race played by white folks to an obvious parody of black people in space. Rick Berman wasn't even subtle about it either. He was clearly saying that his version of the klingons were just blacks in space.

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>>87579228
>Making Klingons a stand in for people you think are literally Satan is shitting all over Roddenberry

Very much so, but Paramount has been doing that ever since they made Enterprise and the the 3rd JJ Trek movie.

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>>87571744
TV and movies are a dying medium.
all the smart people have bailed out.
only dumbasses remain.
and people who dont care about making money and just want to use TV as an ideological weapon.

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>>87574437
but in star trek the klingons were the USSR.
literally the leftist of the left bad guys
you dont know anything, anon.

>>87574973
first interracial kiss on a television show ya dingus

>>87571980
That's not how this works. Separating the art from the artist simply means not letting the creator's personal life get in the way of enjoyment. For example, being able to watch Police Academy movies knowing that OJ is a murderer, or listening to Michael Jackson songs even if he was a weird man children who had slumber parties with little boys.

It doesn't refer to times when the "art" itself is being politicized.

Trek has always been super liberal, the Federation is a post scarcity liberal utopia. The thing is the rest of the galaxy is not and a lot of good episodes emphasize that. The thing people are getting mad at is that it was never used to beat you over the head and the episodes where it was are well known as bad ones. Parading around in interviews and articles about how progressive and current your show is and how all the people you don't like don't deserve to watch something they have loved for decades is the opposite of what the show was about.

>>87579442
I'm not an american, so why was that progressive? Did he fuck her in her ass and then came all over her face?

>>87578365
>>Socially liberal
obviously he's not addressing you dipshit

>>87579568
>being able to watch Police Academy movies knowing that OJ is a murderer
Fucking racist, OJ wasnt Hightower
OJ was in Naked Gun

>>87579695
>Trek has always been super liberal, the Federation is a post scarcity liberal utopia.
They also allow different alien races and empires to exist, even if they dont agree with them

>>87578513
Obama was the worst though and I'm not even american, under him you inbred retards started spreading your homosexualist trans garbage and race baiting politics all over the world.

>>87579753
Oh, you're right. I always mix those up.

>>87579789
But Obama won a Nobel prize for being black!
Then of course he went on to kill thousands of brown civilians

>>87579788
if anything they're some weird hybrid of socialism and libertarian

>>87578558
>did you losers move on from the muh Russia narrative?
lol no. Neither has the FBI :)

>>87579788
Except all the times they don't. They fuck up other cultures so often they had to make the prime directive, that is regularly ignored because they can't help themselves.

>>87579848
I dont care about brownies dying, before he was president no one here knew what the fuck are LGBT and transqueeroons, and fat people were laughed at, now we have Education Linisters formed by American think thanks forcing gender theory into middle schools, transphobia became an actual punishable felony, gayvmarriage became a thing, etc...
Fucking subversive comie baboon。

You know for a liberal paradise the Federation sure loves its guns and for the government to stay out of people's business

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>>87580006
>Neither has the FBI :)
sure thing

Reminder, Seth Rich leaked the DNC emails and they had him killed.

>>87571744
Who cares? As The Pogues once sang "it belongs to us and them, not to any of the others."

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>>87578620
>Not really, his approval is so low now that it will be up by the end of his presidency
Well the end of his presidency is probably next April or so so he's got some fixing to do.
>Historically, Presidents that started out with low approvals were liked more as time passed.
History doesn't really apply since his unpopularity is unprecedented. There's normally a honeymoon period and he tanked that shit with every opportunity he had.
>Bush and Obama both had high approvals at the start of their presidency, and really low towards the ends
Bush did. On account of the wars and financial crises.

Obama didn't have "really low" approval at the end. His lowest approval dips were in 2011 and 2014. His approval went up considerably from 2014 on, when Republican messaging strategy shifted focus from him to Clinton.
>And now are regarded as some of the worst presidents.
Bush is. Tbphwyf Trump being such a disaster was the best thing that could have happened to Bush's legacy. And Obama is regarded relatively well among historians. Being sandwiched between Bush and Trump is only going to make him seem even better with hindsight.

>>87580239
>Well the end of his presidency is probably next April or so so he's got some fixing to do.
stopped reading there

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>>87580155
>Reminder, Seth Rich leaked the DNC emails and they had him killed.
Reminder, Russia created the Seth Rich story. It's been debunked by every level of authority there is and there are no active congressional or special counsel investigations into it. Reminder that Trump was in talks to build a Trump tower in Moscow. Reminder that Trump has laundered hundreds of millions from Russia through real estate in the last 20 years. Reminder that Trump Jr. leaked the email showing that they "loved" the idea of colluding with Russia in what was the most obvious fucktrap in history.

>>87580405
Seymour Hersh talked about it in a message, if you dont believe the guy that broke the Abu Ghraib torture story, you are a partisan idiot

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>>87580259
>stopped reading there
also known as triggered lol

Sticking your head in the sand won't stop it. It may make it easier for you to support him now but you're going to spend the rest of your life questioning how you fell for it.

Republicans are the ones ousting him too btw. No matter how much you refuse to read you won't be able to say you didn't see this coming.

>>87580529
>Republicans are the ones ousting him too btw.
Yes, because they are neo cons and corporatists, just like clintons and obamas

You really dont get why the political establishment doesnt like an outsider

someone that doesnt want wars or tax breaks and monopolies for corporate america

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>>87580503
>Seymour Hersh talked about it in a message
OH WELL IF THE SEYMOUR HERSH SAID SOMETHING.
> if you dont believe the guy that broke the Abu Ghraib torture story, you are a partisan idiot
If you unironically say Seth Rich you're a cartoonishly partisan idiot that parrots disinformation and justifies it because a journalist got briefly honeytrapped with what he thought would be huge story BY LITERALLY RUSSIA. Notice how the guy that broke the Abu Ghraib didn't end up reporting on Seth Rich? Notice how he denied the entire thing until he the recording where he said he had "unbelievable access?"

It was literally unbelievable.

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>>87580576
>You really dont get why the political establishment doesnt like an outsider
Trump isn't an "outsider" he's incapable. He's blatantly corrupt and what is more corporatist than dumping your personal toxic assets on your shareholders and declaring bankruptsy? Trump is an absurdist cartoon of the Republican platform. He highlights the problems inherent in the current political system in a way that is extremely threatening to conservative strategists.
>someone that doesnt want wars
Just extended war on terror. Bombed Syria (even if it was for show). Gets in twitter fights with North Korea. believes in torturing families of enemy combatants and bombing the shit out of anyone.
>or tax breaks
The only thing he talks about is the tax break bill he wants to do. He was annoyed they didn't do that before fucking up healthcare.

Even if you were accurate about what Trump is, that's not why the "deep state" doesn't like him. He can't fucking read. He has no impulse control. He belligerently sabotages relationships with America's closest allies while at the same time he literally can't say anything negative about Russia.

He's an actual manchurian candidate who is too stupid and narcissistic to actually believe in anything other than what directly benefits him.

>>87581055
CAN'T STUMP THE TRUMP

>>87581055

Trump is a moron, but the problem voters only had him a Hillary to choose from, and as an outsider (nordic) I can see why the voters would go like 'well, with Hillary we know exactly what shit we will get, let's give that new guy a shot even though he will likely suck as much'

The US would be fucked either way, rich get richer, poor get poorer, middle class is purged.

>>87571744

So what the actually are are North Koreans

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>>87571744
>be a Star Trek fan
>get triggered when this Marxist show pushes Marxist ideology
Just what the fuck did anonymous mean by this?

>>87581055
you have all of these pictures and replies ready to go, as if.............this is artificial

>>87581652
>the rich get richer

and if they keep doing so, republicans will hold on

>>87581055
7
MORE
YEARS
:)

>>87571980
I agree. The ungrateful goyim should just shut up and watch the propaganda we make.

>>87579238
don't be ridiculous

>>87578828
The thing is, the left still have something worth of being destroyed

>>87581941
Probably not even 3 more senpai

>>87575501
Pete was never charged in the first place dick
>Being a brainless chud to the british tabloids

>>87581720
one was made by someone who cared about what he was making, one is a hamfisted soulless cash grab made by people who clearly don't care about the source material.

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>>87581720
>this Marxist show

>mfw leftists think a post scarcity economy is marxism

>>87575262
Wow I'm a white argie and I never attack other people for being white
Rude!

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>>87577392

>>87578318

This

>>87577101
FUCK YOU RICK BERMAN

>>87577101
He is sort of right.

Honestly, was anyone going to watch this shit anyway? On CBS Access no less.

>>87571830
>>87572861

screencapped for future reference

>>87574437
theres a difference between putting left-leaning morals in a show you're making and making a show from a popular franchise just to shill those morals

>>87584522
I would have, but all this diversity turned me off. Will torrent episode 3 and if it's good will watch on netflix

>>87579442
thats an instance of progressivism in a show about space exploration

the liberal message in the original series was secondary to the actual plot

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I'm 99% sure most of you don't give a shit about Star Trek anyways to be honest.

Quick, tell me what this picture is of.

>>87577701
>all races that are not logical are inferior
>we vulcans have superior intellect because of superior culture and beliefs

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>>87582575
>mfw people don't think Roddenberry was a Marxist

>>87584788

Planet of the powerful race that decked crews and made them think it was a wormhole only Data couldn't be made unconscious so they brokered a deal where they tried to convince the rest of the crew they had gone through the wormhole only slight imperfections with the cover led them to uncover the truth.

Notable because Picard not only threatens Data with courtmartial, he explicitly says they'll "strip him down to the wires" trying to figure out why Data is lying/withholding information. Which kinda fucks the idea that Data is considered a full human being with full rights (which was necessary for him to be a real Starfleet lieutenant) but also the general benevolence of Starfleet facing known intelligent life.

It's clearly a throwaway line they didn't think through but the implications are dark enough that it's unintentionally interesting.

>>87585098
Ok that's one person that knows the show.
The actual image on screen is a doctored photo of the planet Tethys III. Data doctored the photo and tried to sell the Enterprise crew on the idea that an M-Class planet with no outstanding features was present in the T-Tauri System, and that going back to explore it would have been hazardous considering the "unpredictable nature" of the so called wormhole anomalies existing in that system.

Of course, Geordi figured out it was Tethys III, and that's where all that stuff you said about Picard and court martial come into play.

>>87584788
>Quick, tell me what this picture is of.

A bald headed english douche bag who is vastly inferior to Captain Kirk.

>>87572269
>No one wants to watch propaganda.
Not unless it's what I also believe

>>87582575
>post scarcity economy
Earth literally gave up on worldly pleasures, there ain't an economy of any sort.

The Federation is unironically a communist Utopia. (Which is heavily contrasted by the Borg being a communist dystopia)

>>87571744
To be fair, he is right. Also, Trump has no honor.

The show's going to be a trainwreck.

>>87585559
>Earth literally gave up on worldly pleasures,

Nope.

>>87577838
>liberals are the real racists!
back to r/thedonald

>>87574979
Worf didn't get any shit from other Klingons for marrying Jadzia you fucking retard.

>>87585980
Lots of liberals seem to hate whites so it's not much of a stretch.

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>>87571744
Star Trek has always been kike shit lol

intergalactic multikult crap.

niggers on a spaceship bridge? LOL

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>>87578513
>And also Trump is fucked. History will regard him as the worst President ever.

Trump is doing a great job as president by every metric that isn't "muh feels".

>unemployment all time low
>military activity all time low
>economy booming
>crime all time low

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>>87581804
It's actually not the first time I've putinposted. If you wanted you could 4plebs these images back to one of the times a Russian shill admitted got called out on these boards.

And I'm not sure what you think is "artificial?" My basic ability to write stuff? Trump can't read. Russia has been his daddy since he lost all of daddy's money. It is generally understood throughout DC, and particularly among people in the IRS, FBI, and CIA, that Trump was fucked on election day. He had no intention on winning, he spent half of his election setting up why he wasn't going to win. He was planning on building a Trump tower in Moscow, to be the new world's tallest building. That is what he wanted out of this. Of everyone, Trump is the least happy he won. Fucked up everything.
>>87581941
Hey we can wish. Easily the most fascinating presidential administration ever. The longer he's in charge the less stabile everything becomes. US needs a reboot, and what better way to trigger one than to install a virus into the executive.

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>>87586606
>Trump is doing a great job as president by every metric that isn't "muh feels".
List these metrics by which he is doing great please. Nailed it on the healthcare reform lol.
>unemployment all time low
It's not an all time low. It's just now back to where it was before the financial crisis. Also, Trump and his Republican congress didn't really do anything to deserve credit for that. He signed a few impotent executive orders and has been promising to cut corporate taxes but nothing they've done policy wise has had any positive effect on the economy. Meanwhile, walking away from the Paris climate agreement will cost the US jobs and support and the opportunity to lead the pack in new energy. It'll be seen up there with the Citizens United ruling as one of the significant contributing factors to the US's decline in the 21st century.
>military activity all time low
Not even close to true. Just recommitted troops to the "war on terror." Wants to bump up military spending even more. Still bombing shit. Still sending the SEALs into Yemen, just now incompetently.
>economy booming
It isn't. And again, Trump hasn't done anything in terms of legislative or executive leadership to claim that the economy's continued stabilization after 2008 was his victory.
>crime all time low
Crime is generally at an all time low every year. It's been on a steady decline since the 70s. That's a meaningless thing to say.

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Star Trek, blowing retarded conservatives the fuck out since 1966

>>87571744
>mocks trump supporters
>sports an alt-right haircut unironically

>>87575262
As as Argentinian "white" Im more nazi than you. Not even ironically nazi. Here antisemitism and racism is normalized.

You should have killed your negroes after the slavery days ended. Like we did.

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>>87587759
"white" is right

>>87587911
Those are clearly Bolivian/Peruvian people or descendants. You cant tell by their faces.

>>87585559
it's actually the opposite, because of technology and replicators, people are able to engage PURELY in hedonistic endeavors. have you even seen the fucking show

>>87588026
can

>>87571744
what a tosser

>>87585559
>a communist Utopia
no such thing.

>>87585559
>Earth literally gave up on worldly pleasures
Aside from the arts, music, recreational sex, games, and doing weird shit in the holodeck sure they totally gave up on "worldly pleasures"

>trump supporters watch movies, let alone sci-fi
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>87585559
It's not a "communist utopia." It's like utilitarian socialism. They aren't adhering to some sociopolitical ideology, they're just doing what is the most functional means to an end from a humanist perspective. And it's not really a Utopia since there are constantly rogue commanders and other assholes fucking things up for awhile.

>>87578318
they already have another series in the works just in case std gets cancelled. when it does get cancelled they will release all episodes online and announce the other series and say std was just part of an anthology series.
the next series will be in the future (i.e. after voyager/nemesis)

THEY NEED TO STOP CHANGING THE KLINGON DESIGN EVERY SHOW> WTF!?

stick with one design and be done with it. they look stupid as fuck now.

also new star trek looks too advanced for the time period.

>>87578318
> labeling long time fans racists and misogynists
Actually he labeled Trump supporters as being like Klingons. You clearly give a shit about racial shit and you're clearly an isolationist type, so are you upset that he said it or are you upset that he's right?

>>87585980
I prefer racists who know they're racist to self-righteous, self-hating racists.

>>87571744
>terrible blunders
Why are we pretending on 4chan of all places that what he said isn't accurate? It's not like it's a secret here. Trump supporters are racists and isolationists. Why get upset they are portraying them as such?

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>>87575115
These fine gentlemen would like to have a word with you.

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>>87588469
>> labeling long time fans racists and misogynists
>Actually he labeled Trump supporters as being like Klingons.

Sonequa Martin-Green already labeled fans as racist and misogynists a couple of months back for daring to complain about what a shitty tv show this will clearly be.

They could do it right, have Scotty suspicious one of the nigger Vulcans is pissing on the toilet seats and being generally nasty and he finally confronts him "I see ya pissin in the doorway you fooking coon" Star Trek would finally be entertaining.

>>87588570
big surprise, a nigger-loving cuck calling everyone a racist

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>>87589333
what a surprise, a racist getting triggered about getting called a racist

>>87587098
>Not even close to true
uh yes it is. go look at troop spread compared to the bush or obama administration. we will always be bombing shit because we are the appointed world police. most of our troops are in a peace time position in allied countries like Japan or western europe.

>It isn't.
yes. it is. go look at the DOW. go look at growth and earnings reports. the US is doing great right now.

you could argue that any of the boons america is under right now isn't Trump's doing, but thats irrelevant, especially come reelection time. literally all he has to do to get 4 more years is play golf at mara lago and not start WW3.

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>>87584788
>>87585098
>>87585343
>Come into thread to shitpost about Trump
>Spend an hour looking up episode guides and internet discussions on an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation
I don't even fucking like Star Trek. Fuck.

>>87589504
>>87589538
fucking retard

>>87589504
>>87589538
dumb frogposter

>>87571980
Uh, he's flat out saying Trump shit is gonna be in the show (the art). This isn't just some producer going off on Trump.

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>>87589844
>>87589898
FUCK

>>87589333
>nigger
>cuck
>calling everyone a racist
I'm actually just calling you guys racists. Why are you preoccupied with hiding it here. We are anonymous here. You can don the smarmy bullshit plausible deniability at your next rally. Makes no sense here.

>>87589434
>uh yes it is.
No it isn't.
>go look at troop spread compared to the bush or obama administration.
A: "All time low" applies to the scope of history. Not the amount of time you've been alive for.
B: The current "troop spread" has nothing to do with Trump administration policies. Again, his administration has done essentially nothing in terms of major policy or executive orders or strategic policy directives to claim credit for ANY of that shit. Things are where they where when Trump came into office. You're basically singing the praises of the Obama administration right now.
C: "Military activity" ?= "troop spread."
D: Even if geographic location of troops was the determining factor in "military activity," Trump just approved measures to move more troops and dump more money into Afghanistan, so your point isn't just stupid its factually incorrect.
>yes. it is. go look at the DOW.
It's doing fine. It's not "booming." It's doing as well as it was last year when it Trump was calling it a "disaster." And again, TRUMP HASN'T DONE ANYTHING. This is still Obama's economy. They haven't passed tax cuts. They haven't passed a healthcare bill. He just negotiated the debt limit increase with the democrats as a fuck you to the republicans. And you pointing out how great the economy is doing NOW is an argument against cutting taxes, which is what Trump is about to do. If the economy is "doing great" as is there is no reason to cut taxes for corporations and rich people again is there?
>you could argue that any of the boons america is under right now isn't Trump's doing, but thats irrelevant, especially come reelection time.
Well technically Pence has only been elected VP so "reelection time" isn't technically happening.
> literally all he has to do to get 4 more years is play golf at mara lago and not start WW3.
He lost the general election by 3 million votes and he's historically unpopular. He's likely not making it to the midterms.

>>87590142
>He lost the general election by 3 million votes and he's historically unpopular. He's likely not making it to the midterms.
Electoral College is all that matters. And now you're saying he won't make it to the mid-terms? First it was he won't make it past 100 days, then it was 6 months, then it was the end of 2017, now the mid-terms?

He's here for 7 more years, bub, get used to it. All those white voters in PA, MI, and WI aren't going away.

>>87575904
You don't even have to be a fan of Star Trek.

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>>87590361
>Electoral College is all that matters.
Sure. Now. You think after the Trump fiasco, stacked on top of the Bush fiasco, people are gonna be stoked about EC forever? This is the shit Republicans are scared about. They've one the popular vote once since the 80s. Trump just lost by 3 million votes and he's disastrously incapable.
>And now you're saying he won't make it to the mid-terms?
Yes.
>First it was he won't make it past 100 days
I've been saying 15 months since the Steele dossier leaked. Stop arguing against strawmen. Makes you look pathetic.
>He's here for 7 more years, bub, get used to it.
lol sure thing, bub. If you wish upon a star amirite.
> All those white voters in PA, MI, and WI aren't going away.
Well technically they are. They're dying. The base erodes every year and the amount of young people registering as Republican or polling conservative is nowhere near the number of safe conservative voters dying.
And "those white voters" voted for him by slim margins back when he was just a goofball candidate and everyone thought "what's the worst that can happen?" No one thought he was going to win. And now that he has it's been one clusterfuck after another. But sure. 7 more years lol.

>>87590641
>Sure. Now. You think after the Trump fiasco, stacked on top of the Bush fiasco, people are gonna be stoked about EC forever?
Uh, do you hear a SINGLE Democrat in the House or Senate calling for an end to the Electoral College? Is MSNBC or CNN even talking about getting rid of it? NO. And now is the time. Not gonna happen, so get used to it.
>Yes.
Trump won't win the nomination. Trump won't make it past the convention. Did you hear the Trump pussy tape, it's over! Trump won't win the election...Trump won't make it to the mid-terms.
>Well technically they are. They're dying. The base erodes every year and the amount of young people registering as Republican or polling conservative is nowhere near the number of safe conservative voters dying.
It'll still be enough to win.
> But sure. 7 more years lol.
LOL TRUMP PRESIDENT. NO WAY! HILARY IS WINNING IN EVERY POLL, EARLY VOTING, AND EXIT POLLS. IT'S 7PM AND SHE'S UP IN FLORIDA, WHY HAVEN'T THEY CALLED THIS ELECTION!!!

>>87590641
>And now that he has it's been one clusterfuck after another. But sure. 7 more years lol.
You're an underage faggot that doesn't remember George W. Bush doing the worst job humanly imaginable and still winning 2 terms.
The incumbent has the advantage. 4 of our last 5 presidents have won 2 terms.

>>87575262
Your mother is being automatically satisfied by non-whites. In the interest of time, you would be better suited making notes on what types of brown dudes pleasure her more than your limpdick white dad. Please share the results with the class when you're done.

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>>87590922
>Uh, do you hear a SINGLE Democrat in the House or Senate calling for an end to the Electoral College?
Yeah.
>Is MSNBC or CNN even talking about getting rid of it? NO.
Yeah. NYTimes notably said it's time to end EC.
>And now is the time.
lol k. Republican president who got elected through EC and Republican congressional majority that only exists through gerrymandering is going to lead the charge in election reform.
>Not gonna happen, so get used to it.
Oh I don't really give a shit if it happens. Basically my entire portfolio is leveraged on the US continuing down the same corporatist path and imploding. Honestly Trump is too much of a destabilizer that there's never been more organized resistance movements and focused political causes than anytime in contemporary politics.
>Trump won't win the nomination. Trump won't make it past the convention. Did you hear the Trump pussy tape, it's over! Trump won't win the election...Trump won't make it to the mid-terms.
Trump wasn't colluding with Russia. Trump will make it to the midterms. HE DEFIES EVERYONE lol.
>It'll still be enough to win.
lol sure thing. You know depending on when they drop him, Pence could potentially be eligible for the full 10 years a President can serve.
>LOL TRUMP PRESIDENT. NO WAY! HILARY IS WINNING IN EVERY POLL, EARLY VOTING, AND EXIT POLLS. IT'S 7PM AND SHE'S UP IN FLORIDA, WHY HAVEN'T THEY CALLED THIS ELECTION!!!
It's funny because you're obviously "pretending" to mock the other side, but at the end of the day you're the one screaming in all caps and delusionally reaffirming shit to yourself in spite of all evidence or historical context. It's funny because you screaming about how improbable it was that he won is going to be more and more relevant going forward.

>>87591366
>Yeah
Who? Anyone major?
>Yeah. NYTimes notably said it's time to end EC.
They said it when? A day after the election? They spend tons of time campaigning on issue, why not this one?
>ol k. Republican president who got elected through EC and Republican congressional majority that only exists through gerrymandering is going to lead the charge in election reform.
Conspiracy moron shit.
>Oh I don't really give a shit if it happens.
Then why are you posting like you care?
>Trump wasn't colluding with Russia. Trump will make it to the midterms. HE DEFIES EVERYONE lol.
Uh, he does defy everyone. People said he was done after Charlottesville. The guy is human teflon.
>lol sure thing. You know depending on when they drop him,
Are you insane? He survived the pussy tape (probably the worst imaginable thing that could happen to a politician). He'll survive anything. You're delusional.
>It's funny because you're obviously "pretending" to mock the other side, but at the end of the day you're the one screaming in all caps and delusionally reaffirming shit to yourself in spite of all evidence or historical context.
Uh, I was writing in caps as part of my "pretending" about how morons like you kept saying he had no chance for every reason under the sun. In fact, now you're saying he has no chance of making it to the mid-terms. If I knew you I'd make you a $10,000 bet on that because it would be easy money.

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>>87590964
>You're an underage faggot
lol you're clearly upset. And also projecting.
>that doesn't remember George W. Bush doing the worst job humanly imaginable and still winning 2 terms.
I remember it well. His re-election is the only popular vote that Republicans have won since 1988. And you clearly weren't politically aware in the early aughts, because if you were you'd understand the mass hysteria that swept the country after 9/11. Bush won because of the War on Terror. And now of course Trump has been awkwardly teasing about a war coming up. It's funny because you're looking at the Bush administration with a level of hindsight that you're clearly failing to have about the Trump administration. Bush could read at a college level. He was relatively endearing and he filled his staff with wicked smart strategists and amazing messaging strategy. It took the country years to realize they got bamboozled.
>The incumbent has the advantage
Yeah typically. There's never been any incumbent like Trump before. And I thought Trump loves to defy the odds lol.
>4 of our last 5 presidents have won 2 terms.
6 of the last 11 presidents didn't serve 2 full terms. And none of them were as unpopular or blatantly stupid as Trumpo.

>>87571744
Klingons are brave and honorable, comparing them to Trumptards is an insult to the noble Klingon

>>87591654
>I remember it well. His re-election is the only popular vote that Republicans have won since 1988.
Irrelevant.
>And you clearly weren't politically aware in the early aughts, because if you were you'd understand the mass hysteria that swept the country after 9/11.
This was 3 years later. The Iraq war had begun to sour. A candidate better than Kerry (who had his own baggage) would have won handily. You obviously weren't there.
>Yeah typically. There's never been any incumbent like Trump before. And I thought Trump loves to defy the odds lol.
He defies the odd when it benefits him.
>6 of the last 11 presidents didn't serve 2 full terms. And none of them were as unpopular or blatantly stupid as Trumpo.
Are you really comparing JFK, LBJ, Nixon with Watergate, and Carter (who was universally hated by both parties) to Trump? Fucking seriously?!
I feel bad for you. Just watch, in 2020 Trump will win again. Screen cap this post if you want.

I hated Trump in the beginning. I was a liberal in the beginning. Then I seen how all the rich celebs flocked to hate him. I seen how the news desperately made up narratives to paint him in a negative light. I seen direct lies and misquotes to a proportion I've never seen before, directed on smearing him. Then almost all the celebs I followed on twitter went full anti Trump. Then all the shoes I watched started shoe horning politics in. Then the old school liberal views were not enough, no matter how much I am all for freedom, I am still a racist homophobe because I don't think everything should be censored and don't want a million refugees and illegals in my neighborhood.Then I seen BLM riots, BLM supporters chasing white people down in the streets during riots. Then the lefties started rioting too and assulting anyone they didn't approve of.

Now I get pushed more right every day.

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>>87591654
Holy shit Baron

Did people here actually pay attention to things that happened in previous Star Trek shows and understand the points being made in the stories being told or did everyone just watch to see spaceships?

>>87591539
Google your own shit tryhard.
>Conspiracy moron shit.
lol not an argument. Congressional dems in house and senate receive more votes, and yet Republicans control both. Gerrymandering is something that even Republicans like McCain and Kasich are speaking out about. It's observable and obvious. Read more.
>Then why are you posting like you care?
Because you do. And I like fucking with people struggling with cognitive dissonance. Especially when I know spoilers.
>Uh, he does defy everyone.
Which is why everyone is going to boot him lol. He's like a petulant child. He lashes out at all of his allies every chance he gets.
>People said he was done after Charlottesville.
Done how? His chance at re-election was essentially put down after Charlottesville but saying retarded shit isn't an impeachable offense.
>The guy is human teflon.
Yeah. He dumps his toxic assets on his shareholders and declares bankruptsy. You're his shareholder lol. Remember the USFL? Oh yeah you don't because he killed it because he kills everything he touches. He lost all his dad's money and American credit decades ago, but somehow he's miraculously been kept afloat all that time on loans from Alfa bank and laundering Russian money though American real estate. Teflon don over here lol.
>Are you insane? He survived the pussy tape (probably the worst imaginable thing that could happen to a politician). He'll survive anything.
He probably wont survive prison.
>You're delusional.
You're projecting.
>Uh, I was writing in caps as part of my "pretending"
Everyone knows that smart people "pretend" to be stupid in lieu of an argument.
>he had no chance for every reason under the sun.
HE DEFIES THE ODDS 8 MORE YEARS LOL
> If I knew you I'd make you a $10,000 bet on that
kek I don't make bets with people with no credit. If I'm right about the next few years I'll probably be a millionaire. If I'm wrong I'll only be worth hundreds of thousands.

>>87592217
>Google your own shit tryhard.
So you had no trouble telling me about the NY Times, now you want me to Google it? If Dems or the media cared about removing the EC they would be fighting for it. The Dems had a supermajority at one point and never brought it. You're living in a fantasy world if you think it will be gone by 2020.
>lol not an argument.
But your conspiracy shit is?
>Because you do.
You care because I care? That's insane. You must have something better to do with your time.
>Which is why everyone is going to boot him lol.
More of this nonsense. Won't happen.
>He's like a petulant child. He lashes out at all of his allies every chance he gets.
This strategy allowed him to crush 16 other candidates in the primary. Those candidates were then kissing his feet after the election. He was just hugging Pelosi and Schumer after the budget agreement. What planet are you on?
>Done how? His chance at re-election was essentially put down after Charlottesville but saying retarded shit isn't an impeachable offense.
People said he would resign after Charlottesville. Do you watch the media or read Huffington Post? And most people gave him a POSITIVE approval of how he handled Charlottesville (not that it matters, it's already forgotten because of the hurricanes).
>He probably wont survive prison.
Prison now? Christ you morons are soooo crazy. I remember before the election talking to people like you. People who just refused to listen to reason that he might win. Look how far that go you.
>You're projecting.
"herr derr Trump won't make it to the mid-terms and will be in jail" Delusional.
>Everyone knows that smart people "pretend" to be stupid in lieu of an argument.
You're doing the reverse.
>HE DEFIES THE ODDS 8 MORE YEARS LOL
Just watch, he had no chance of winning, but here we are.
>If I'm wrong I'll only be worth hundreds of thousands.
14 year old projecting.

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>>87591780
>Irrelevant.
Not to republican strategists looking forward to a census year, with a historically unpopular president, historically unpopular congress, and historically unpopular platform. The entire 2020s are in significant jeopardy for Republicans right now. They were banking on losing the Presidency.
>This was 3 years later. The Iraq war had begun to sour.
No it wasn't. The Iraq War started in March 2003. It was absolutely still pretty much HOORAH YOURE EITHER WITH US OR YOURE AGAINST US mentality. Democrats were unamerican. Kerry was a flip flopper. Freedom fries. Seriously how old are you?
>You obviously weren't there.
Nothing you've said has indicated that you have any actual frame of reference for the Bush years other. I spent high school and most of college during the Bush administration. I was politically active thoughout high school and argued against the invasion of Iraq in debate club for weeks running up to it happening. I have ~3 years of experience working for the Republican party and some democratic campaigns and a college degree that concentrated on political messaging strategy. Who you is?
>He defies the odd when it benefits him.
Oh no he defies the odds at all times.
>He couldn't possibly fuck up a spring season football league.
>He couldn't possibly find a way to lose money on casinos.
>He wouldn't possibly build 3 Trump branded casinos in Atlantic city and put himself out of business.
>He would never actively collude with the Russians for years.

>Are you really comparing JFK, LBJ, Nixon with Watergate, and Carter
Yeah.
>Fucking seriously?!
Yep. Particularly Nixon. Unlike Nixon though, Trump isn't smart. Nixon was insane and paranoid but he was kind of a genius. Trump struggles greatly to read.
And Carter's re-election largely got tanked by a fucking swamp rabbit. And for reference, Jimmy Carter's approval rating at the end of his term when he was least popular is about where Trump is now.

>>87592708
>unpopular platform.
Dude, they keep winning. They keep winning more House, Senate, and governor seats. Trump winning was just the cherry on top.
>No it wasn't. The Iraq War started in March 2003
You brought up 9/11. It was 3 years after that. The Iraq war was the new thing and it was already going bad.
>Democrats were unamerican. Kerry was a flip flopper. Freedom fries. Seriously how old are you?
I'm in my 30's, you obviously don't remember. Freedom Fries never took off. Dems weren't unAmerician, and Kerry lost because of the Swift boating attack on him that was very successful. (and because he was a very mediocre candidate at best).
>Nothing you've said has indicated that you have any actual frame of reference for the Bush years other. I spent high school and most of college during the Bush administration.
I spent all of college during the Bush administration.
>Who you is?
Someone who isn't dumb enough to think a President (no matter how bad) won't make it to the mid-terms.
>Oh no he defies the odds at all times.
And yet he still won the biggest prize of them all.
>Yeah
So you're comparing JFK who couldn't finish his term because he got his head blown off; LBJ who refused to accept the nomination because the disaster of Vietnam to Trump potentially not finishing his term? Seriously?
>Yep. Particularly Nixon. Unlike Nixon though, Trump isn't smart. Nixon was insane and paranoid but he was kind of a genius. Trump struggles greatly to read.
Yeah, Nixon was soo smart that he recorded himself committing obstruction of justice with regards to Watergate.
>And Carter's re-election largely got tanked by a fucking swamp rabbit.
More paranoid shit.
>Jimmy Carter's approval rating at the end of his term when he was least popular is about where Trump is now.
The difference is that Trump has 3 years to get those numbers up.

>>87579789
It's bad enough you fucked with the election do you have to fuck with my imageboard of choice as well Putin?

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>>87592527
>So you had no trouble telling me about the NY Times, now you want me to Google it?
Yes. The best path to truth is your own.
>If Dems or the media cared about removing the EC they would be fighting for it.
They're currently fighting for a lot of things. Again, you can google national popular vote or even electoral college and you're going to find all kinds of calls to action. That you exist in a safe space where dissent is minimized is you're situation.
>The Dems had a supermajority at one point and never brought it.
They spent all their capital at the time passing healthcare reform. And they didn't actually have a "supermajority" for longer than a few months
>You care because I care? That's insane.
I like fucking with desperate people. It probably is kind of insane. I may be an asshole but I'm not wrong.
>You must have something better to do with your time.
Of course I do. Talking to retards like you is my version of self-harm.
>More of this nonsense. Won't happen.
Just stick your fingers in your ears and yell at this point
>This strategy allowed him to crush 16 other candidates in the primary.
Almost like what is a good primary strategy isn't a good leadership strategy. He succeeded when he had someone else to tear down. Now he's at the top and it kills him. He eats shit for everything.
>People said he would resign after Charlottesville.
THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE YOU FUCKING IDIOT. It's called availability heuristic m8. kys.
>What planet are you on?
lol the one Trump fucked up when he walked away from the Paris agreement.
>Prison now?
Money laundering is illegal.
>Christ you morons are soooo crazy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muF73GiqXoE
>People who just refused to listen to reason that he might win. Look how far that go you.
Other than all the congressional investigations and the special prosecutor looking into the election?
> Delusional.
You're still projecting.
>You're doing the reverse.
>n-no you
completely impotent lol

>>87593074
>Yes. The best path to truth is your own.
I checked it out. No major media or government figures are calling for an end to the EC, sorry.
>They're currently fighting for a lot of things.
So illegial immigrants is more important to them than the "sanctity" of our elections?
>They spent all their capital at the time passing healthcare reform. And they didn't actually have a "supermajority" for longer than a few months
So what you're saying is that under any circumstance there will ALWAYS be a bigger issue than abolishing the EC? Got it.
>I like fucking with desperate people.
How am I desperate? My guy won, handily. You're girl got crushed and she's on tv every month crying about it. And you're here making crazy predictions about Trump going to prison.
>I may be an asshole but I'm not wrong.
"herr derr Trump will be in jail by 2018 and I will be a millionaire!" You're fucking nuts.
>Of course I do. Talking to retards like you is my version of self-harm.
Says every 4channer. We know the truth.
>Just stick your fingers in your ears and yell at this point
"he'll be in jail, i-i swear!"
>Almost like what is a good primary strategy isn't a good leadership strategy.
He won the election, he's not going anywhere for 7 years.
>THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE YOU FUCKING IDIOT. It's called availability heuristic m8. kys.
Using caps, you're getting angry lol.
Most PEOPLE (meaning polls) found he handled Charlottesville fine (despite at the media and Twitter outrage). Trump is doing fine.
>lol the one Trump fucked up when he walked away from the Paris agreement.
His base loved it. It will get him re-elected again. You still don't get it. Him doing these things gets him more free press thus more votes.
>Money laundering is illegal.
Major politicians don't go to jail, dummy.
>special prosecutor?
They'll find nothing. They've been looking into this for a year and found NOTHING.
>You're still projecting.
You're posts prove that you're delusional.

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>>87592937
>Dude, they keep winning.
Yeah they're the corporatist party post Citizens United. Of course they keep winning.
>Trump winning was just the cherry on top.
Not to most Republican strategists. They were looking at 2020 hoping they'd still get to be shitposting about the President and have state and local control locked up for the Census. Now that's all on fire.
>Someone who isn't dumb enough to think a President (no matter how bad) won't make it to the mid-terms.
HE DEFIES THE ODDS
>And yet he still won the biggest prize of them all.
First President to be impeached AND convicted?
>So you're comparing JFK who couldn't finish his term because he got his head blown off; LBJ who refused to accept the nomination because the disaster of Vietnam to Trump potentially not finishing his term? Seriously?
Yes. Sick argument.
>Yeah, Nixon was soo smart that he recorded himself committing obstruction of justice with regards to Watergate.
TRUMP HAS ALREADY DONE THAT WITH LESTER HOLT
>More paranoid shit.
No it's pretty standard presidential history. It's like you don't even know enough to understand how little you know about this shit.
>The difference is that Trump has 3 years to get those numbers up.
Well Trump then Pence. The Russian shit buries him. The kompromat is real.

And I don't give a shit if you cap this. I'll likely never hear from you again, particularly as Mueller's investigation continues to move up the chain. Keep plugging your ears and yelling nanananan and pretending to be a retarded liberal. Keep bringing up how weird it was that he won the election. It's the rest of your life that you get the cognitive dissonance m8.

Did you buy the hat?

How long will you keep it?

>>87592708
every single poll shows that Republicans are destined to win MORE seats lmfao

its over for the Democratic party, literally fucking over.

>Trump supporter
>Racial purity
Pick 1.

>>87593391
>Muh Mueller
You're sounding like the GOP pundits in the 90s who treated Ken Starr like a night in shining armor.

>>87593391
>Yeah they're the corporatist party post Citizens United. Of course they keep winning.
And Dems are the corporatist party of Goldman Sachs, Big Finance, and BLM. Both are shit.
>Not to most Republican strategists.
The same "strategists" that thought Trump should quit after the pussy tape? The same strategists that thought Republicans would lose the Senate and major seats in the House? 2016 changed everything on strategists and polling.
>HE DEFIES THE ODDS
Still with the caps. Trump will win again, no matter how much you scream.
>First President to be impeached AND convicted?
Being this delusional.
>Yes. Sick argument.
You made the comparison.
>TRUMP HAS ALREADY DONE THAT WITH LESTER HOLT
Elaborate.
>No it's pretty standard presidential history.
To you maybe, but you're nuts.
>Well Trump then Pence. The Russian shit buries him.
"the pussy tape will bury him. his tax returns will bury him. Russia will bury him..." You guys are so delusional.
>And I don't give a shit if you cap this. I'll likely never hear from you again, particularly as Mueller's investigation continues to move up the chain.
The government leaks like crazy. So far NOTHING major has come out (the only big thing was the email between Trump Jr and that lawyer). They have nothing.

>>87571744
>Well there's 63 Million potential viewers who won't watch the new Star Trek.
>What are some other instances of Hollwood making terrible blunders?

Pathetic empty threats

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>>87593328
tldr. You're too stupid and you don't really know anything. And it's annoying how you never actually put forth a claim.
You're not bringing a real depth of knowledge or consideration or experience to the table. Just typical tribalism muh president faggot shit and desperate negation and rejection. If you actually are in your 30s you should be embarrassed. What's your excuse? Do you knowingly intellectually dishonest or just stupid and well trained?
>>87593425
>party that props up the corporatist agenda controls everything after Citizens United determines that corporations are people.
wacky coincidence.
>its over for the Democratic party, literally fucking over.
Should I cap this lol.
>>87593497
Ken Starr was investigating a blowjob. Mueller is investigating the biggest political scandal in contemporary American history. Trump has already confessed to obstruction on national TV. His son already leaked evidence of collusion.
>>87593609
still tldr lol

Goodmorrow

>>87593770
>tldr. You're too stupid and you don't really know anything. And it's annoying how you never actually put forth a claim.
All you're doing is making insane claims. I'm flat out saying that the EC is going nowhere and you're crying like a fag and screaming. I'm flat out saying that incumbents have the advantage and dems are in shambles. Facts are on my side, not yours. You're just screaming that Trump will impeached and sent to jail like your some DailyKos blogger.
>wacky coincidence.
Did Obama or Hillary fight against Citizens United? Of course not, they wanted the big $ as well for their campaigns. Both parties are into big money nowadays, you're so delusional that you don't see it.
>Ken Starr was investigating a blowjob.
He was investigating perjury.
>Mueller is investigating the biggest political scandal in contemporary American history.
And he's getting nothing so far. All the best stuff leaked and it wasn't that great.
>still tldr lol
"i'm losing so I won't read it, even though I did."
Call me when Trump is in jail, which wil never happen.

>>87593891
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muF73GiqXoE

YOU

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BEEN

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>>87593973
Post any song you want. The Electoral College is NOT going away. Trump will NOT be impeached. And he will NOT be in jail.

But, he WILL win in 2020.

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>>87594011
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtH68PJIQLE

REPEAT IT AND REPEAT IT AND REPEAT IT AND REPEAT IT AND REPEAT IT AND REPEAT IT AND LOOK DOWN AND STAY IN YOUR SAFE SPACE AND REJECT AND REJECT AND IGNORE AND REPEAT IT AND REPEAT IT AND REPEAT IT AND REJECT AND DISMISS AND MOCK AND QUESTION THE SPEAKER AND REJECT IT AND REJECT IT AND REJECT IT AND REPEAT

HE A GOOD BOY
HE DINDU NUFFIN

>>87571744

I don't have a problem with that.

/pol/ - Right Wingers are Klingons, reddit - Left Wingers are The Borg.

>>87574437

>left leaning

>morals

8/8.

>>87594210
>reddit spacing
>being a cuck
9/11

>>87594238

>reddit spacing meme

Hola reddit!

>>87594147
I'm sure you made similar posts before the election...then look what happened.

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>>87594285
I spent the run up to the election saying it'd be hilarious if he won, knowing the type of personality disorders he has. He's the great destabilizer. It's funny though how you dipshits won't see the forest for the trees, maybe ever. Him winning fucks up the Republicans for 2020 in a way that you dipshits clearly don't understand. It's so interesting how every Trump supporter seems to have some kind of blinders on about everything that happened after the election.
>Trump is being investigated by special prosecutor after firing the director of the FBI because he was investigating "the Russia stuff."
>YEAH BUT HE INEXPLICABLY WON THE ELECTION AND YOU PROBABLY THOUGHT HE WOULD LOSE SO IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT MEMBERS OF HIS OWN PARTY ARE INVESTIGATING AND TRYING TO OUST HIM.

Seriously do you not see how pathetic it is constantly pivoting to the general as if that's when time stopped? I get that the Trump Train got less fun once there were stakes but when you're still grasping at the election victory as your primary talking point, 7 months into the presidency, you're clearly fucking struggling.

It's funny because deep down you know he's a scumbag that pandered to you and you know he's a fuck up. But at what point will you realize that "clinging to the fact that he somehow won" isn't an argument? Normally it's supposed to be the side that lost constantly bitching about the election, but for you buttblasted cultists inauguration day was the beginning of the end of the Trump meme. But you never anticipated Your President's first order of business would be reeeeeing about his fucking inauguration crowd size.

>>87594734
>I spent the run up to the election saying it'd be hilarious if he won
Suuuure you did. You keep saying "tl:dr", meanwhile you're the one posting paragraphs explaining your insanities.
>Him winning fucks up the Republicans for 2020
A Republican winning the WH and carrying other members to victory on his back = "fucks up the Republicans for 2020". I'd hate to hear what your diagnosis of the Democrats are.
>Seriously do you not see how pathetic it is constantly pivoting to the general as if that's when time stopped? I get that the Trump Train got less fun once there were stakes but when you're still grasping at the election victory as your primary talking point, 7 months into the presidency, you're clearly fucking struggling.
All presidencies go through ups and downs. I'm not some autistic wannabe Dailykos blogger like you who keeps saying Trump will be impeached and in jail within a year.
>It's funny because deep down you know he's a scumbag that pandered to you and you know he's a fuck up. But at what point will you realize that "clinging to the fact that he somehow won" isn't an argument? Normally it's supposed to be the side that lost constantly bitching about the election, but for you buttblasted cultists inauguration day was the beginning of the end of the Trump meme. But you never anticipated Your President's first order of business would be reeeeeing about his fucking inauguration crowd size.
He's doing just what I wanted. Pissing off the media, SJW retards like you, and cancelling insane immigration shit.

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>>87595410
>Suuuure you did.
I'm not sure how to break it to you but some people just like to watch shit blow up.
>You keep saying "tl:dr", meanwhile you're the one posting paragraphs explaining your insanities.
I keep trying to go to sleep and then when I don't I spend a few minutes writing. And again, my "insanities" are future common knowledge. Collusion and obstruction have been established. Tickticktick
>A Republican winning the WH and carrying other members to victory on his back = "fucks up the Republicans for 2020".
Not "A Republican." Donald Trump. And it doesn't "fucks up the Republicans for 2020." It "fucks up the Republicans for the 2020s."
> I'd hate to hear what your diagnosis of the Democrats are.
Doing generally better than Republicans were in 2009 before the civil war. Democrats have a much better issue focused platform than Republicans and democrats don't have to create bullshit reasons to justify corporatist policies.
>All presidencies go through ups and downs.
TRUMP DEFIES THE ODDS.
>I'm not some autistic wannabe Dailykos blogger like you
You can just say you don't know stuff. And what part of I spent 2 election cycles as a Republican messaging strategist didn't you get? How many people in the IRS do you know? How many people in the FBI? How many congressional aids?
>you who keeps saying Trump will be impeached and in jail within a year.
No I said he wont be president within a year. Him dying in prison happens later lol.
>He's doing just what I wanted.
Being cartoonishly incompetent and making Republicans look retarded. Got it. Funny thing is that's what I wanted too.
>Pissing off the media
It's funny because he's a histrionic reality tv show narcissist who spent his life living off the media. And he fucking hates how everyone criticizes him now.
> SJW retards like you
lol sick label. I don't need labeling fallacies to point out that you don't know much and you're not overwhelmingly smart. No boogiemen. Just you :)

>>87577101
I thought Rick was /ourguy/?
The same guy who said "no gays allowed on the bridge".

>>87596609
>future common knowledge.
Stupidest shit I've ever read.
>Not "A Republican." Donald Trump.
Who is in fact, a Republican.
>Doing generally better than Republicans were in 2009 before the civil war.
I was being sarcastic, but this answer is stupider than I ever imagined.
>Democrats have a much better issue focused platform
They do? That's why they lost in 2016, because they didn't have any answers. You're fucking insane, bro.
>And what part of I spent 2 election cycles as a Republican messaging strategist didn't you get?
Sure you did.
>How many people in the IRS do you know? How many people in the FBI? How many congressional aids?
Sure you do.
>No I said he wont be president within a year. Him dying in prison happens later lol.
Both won't happen. Oh, but wait you have "future common knowledge".
>Being cartoonishly incompetent and making Republicans look retarded.
They don't need Trump for that. At least Trump is ending immigration shit in the process.
>It's funny because he's a histrionic reality tv show narcissist who spent his life living off the media. And he fucking hates how everyone criticizes him now.
He's still pissing of the media and SJW fags like you.
>lol sick label. I don't need labeling fallacies to point out that you don't know much and you're not overwhelmingly smart.
I never claimed to be smart. You're the one making insane claims like Trump will be impeached, end up in jail, cost the Republicans in 2020, etc. Oh, but wait you have "future common knowledge".

Why does it take you an hour to reply to posts? Did it really take you an hour to write this shit?

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>>87596823
>Stupidest shit I've ever read.
notice I you inject subjectivity, and yourself, into a conversation about presidential historical fact.
>Who is in fact, a Republican.
DEFINITELY KEEP THAT UP. Make sure that EVERYONE thinks about the Republican party when they think of Donald Trump.
>I was being sarcastic, but this answer is stupider than I ever imagined.
Don't care about you or your imagination. Not an argument.
>They do?
Yes.
>You're fucking insane, bro.
Who you trying to convince? You or me? I know I'm crazy. You need me to be.
>Both won't happen.
tickticktick
>At least Trump is ending immigration shit in the process.
He isn't. His retarded attempt at the muslim ban blew up in his face and the SC only allowed through the uncontested aspects of the order. He controls who can travel here but needs congress, WHICH HIS PARTY CONTROLS, to change immigration law. They've done nothing and will do almost certainly do nothing about immigration before 2019. He's done a lot for "Russian adoption" though lol.
>He's still pissing of the media and SJW fags like you.
I'm loving every minute of this shit. This is a historic presidency and every day matters.
> You're the one making insane claims..
Technically my stance is that he's going to resign sometime at the beginning of next summer or spring as the investigation comes to a head. If he does make it through the midterms there would be impeachment proceedings. Him dying in prison is a bit more of a guess. Depends on if Pence learned anything from Ford.
>Why does it take you an hour to reply to posts?
It doesn't. Probably takes around 15 minutes. And holy shit sorry to keep you waiting with baited breath you cringey fuck. You take pride in how quickly you respond to (you)s do you?
I'm gonna watch new R&M then post this if not 404d.

Holy fuck best episode. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Js-XbNj6Tk&feature=youtu.be

>>87597382
>notice I you inject subjectivity, and yourself, into a conversation about presidential historical fact.
"future common knowledge" is now "presidential historical fact"?
>DEFINITELY KEEP THAT UP. Make sure that EVERYONE thinks about the Republican party when they think of Donald Trump.
They did, it's what allowed them to keep the Senate.
>Don't care about you or your imagination. Not an argument.
"herr derr Dems are better off than Republicans now despite losing consistently in senate, house, and governor elections for the past 5 years". You're autistic at this point.
>He isn't. His retarded attempt at the muslim ban blew up in his face and the SC only allowed through the uncontested aspects of the order.
He ended DACA. ICE is throwing out more people than ever.
>Technically my stance is that he's going to resign sometime at the beginning of next summer or spring as the investigation comes to a head.
As I said, insane. Won't happen.
> If he does make it through the midterms there would be impeachment proceedings.
Again, insane. Republicans thought Clinton would resign or be impeached and look how that turned out. And before you bring up Nixon, they got him on fucking tape obstructing justice with the CIA and the FBI. You're a fucking nutcase.
>It doesn't. Probably takes around 15 minutes.
Your last post took over an hour.
> And holy shit sorry to keep you waiting with baited breath you cringey fuck.
No, but I am curious as to why it takes so long.
>I'm gonna watch new R&M
And now we have your age, and why you're so fucking stupid. Game. Set. Match.
Trump won't be impeached, won't resign, and won't go to jail, despite what you or Dan Harmon say.