>A major reason for the disappointing outcome is that the

Did Angelina Jolie recover?

>>87524341
>A major reason for the disappointing outcome is that the movie tries to be a dark satire on suburban culture and a commentary on racism.
>It’s almost embarrassing to imagine that Clooney, Heslov, and others would think these two plot elements could work seamlessly in one movie.

Well it can work if you satire Liberal Suburbanite racism.

>Written by
>Joel Coen & Ethan Coen
>and
>George Clooney & Grant Heslov

So the Coens wrote a "dark satire on suburban culture" and Clooney and Heslov added the subplot, correct?

>>87525711
Correct.

Source: my dad work for the Coen brothers

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clean, happy white suburbs are spoooooky
traditional values are creeeeepy

can we just fucking gas them again already

>if somebody is happy and smiley it means they are hiding a horrible and dark secret
>church goers are actually evil and hiding a monstrous past
>don't trust anybody who treats you kindly, they have ulterior motives

t-thanks hollywood

>>87525711
Probably. The Coen brothers understand actual American culture and suburban life, they wouldn't cheapen it by adding some shallow subplot about "how da whiteys be ebil"

You can expect Clooney to have added that in, seeing as he's just a pretty-boy braindead actor who's lost touch with the population.

>>87528456
>trusting The (((Coen))) brothers

>>87525711
I was reading an interview with Clooney about this movie earlier. He admitted that the original script was much more of a comedy but he cut most of that stuff out because it didn't fit the tone he decided to make the movie.

>>87528664
the coen brothers are great. i don't care that they are kikes. they are some of the greatest directors of all time

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>>87524341
george clooney is a walking, breathing meme. has never been in a good movie, is ugly as fuck, but because of hype and artificial popularity, he is famous

>>87526343
>again

I've sat through this trailer like three times at the theater. Cringe-inducing.

>>87525711
Yeah.

>When The Daily Beast asked why there weren’t more minorities in Hail, Caesar!’s cast, Coen fired back with, “Why would there be?”

>“I don’t understand the question. No—I understand that you’re asking the question, I don’t understand where the question comes from.

>“Not why people want more diversity—why they would single out a particular movie and say, ‘Why aren’t there black or Chinese or Martians in this movie? What’s going on?’ That’s the question I don’t understand. The person who asks that question has to come in the room and explain it to me.”

>As filmmakers, is it important or not important to consciously factor in concerns like diversity, I asked.

>“Not in the least!” Ethan [Coen] answered. “It’s important to tell the story you’re telling in the right way, which might involve black people or people of whatever heritage or ethnicity—or it might not.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/the-coen-brothers-the-oscars-are-not-that-important

>>87526343
it is creepy

>>87529355
Personally I hate Clooney and dislike most things he has been in because he's in them, but Ocean's 11 was still good

DAE think that anti-racism is super uncool and LAME?????

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He has a dope villa

>>87529554
the original was better

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>>87524341
>MUH RACISM
>MUH DRUMPF
>MUH DREAMERS
>*sells his house in Italy and runs when the town gets overrun by refugees*

Hmm...

>>87526343

Your comment brought to mind this, and the movie itself sounds like a much worse version of what Pleasantville did tolerably well:

https://youtu.be/AMpZ0TGjbWE

>>87529647
That he sold because those brave refugees were enriching his neighborhood

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>>87529485>He continued: “You don’t sit down and write a story and say, ‘I’m going to write a story that involves four black people, three Jews, and a dog,’—right? That’s not how stories get written. If you don’t understand that, you don’t understand anything about how stories get written and you don’t realize that the question you’re asking is idiotic.
>you don’t realize that the question you’re asking is idiotic.
>idiotic

S A V A G E
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>>87529783
Why doesn't he let them stay in his villa?

>>87525711
That's what Clooney said in an interview.

Reminder that when the monuments men did poorly he emailed the head of Sony saying he hasn't slept in days

>>87529877
sauce pls

>>87526343
>suburbs
>traditional values
nothing says "traditional values" like living in a caricature of a countryhouse, isolated from your neighbours and having to drive a car even to go grocery shopping.

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>>87529877
Maybe he should leave comedy for the Coens and stick to drama, 'The Ides of March' was good.

>>87529823
That would be no good only the poor masses should be enriched and the rich elite should life in their ivory towers.

>movie going to explore racism
>Oscar Isaac is the darkest person seen in the trailers

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>>87530101

>>87529967
>walks to the grocery store
Do you bring the cart back home too?

Why does Hollywood force George clooney on us? He has been in so many bombs but he keeps getting amazing opportunities.

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>>87530344
>tfw burgers can't even fathom doing their groceries without a car
brutal

>>87530558
roasties probably

>>87530558

He's reached stardom levels where he can engineer his own projects, anon. Like this movie. So Hollywood is not forcing him on you.

>>87530673
Yeah but he's always been in bombs but Hollywood always told us he was this huge star even in the early 2000s

Most of his movies don't make money plus they get mediocre to bad reviews. How does he keep getting work. It's like they're trying to will him into being a movie star.

>>87530344
If you're thin enough, you can walk carrying a full plastic bag in your hands, without wheezing.
Crazy I know.

>>87529949
You could just google it but whatever
>"Let's just make it a hit. I haven't slept in 30 hours. And it's 7am," Clooney wrote.

>Seeking to sooth the silver-haired star, Pascal replied, "We will protect you by making money … that's the best revenge," according to the news site.

>>87529433
Were you by yourself those three times at the theater? just curious ;^)

>>87530981
yes

>>87531064
That's kind of embarrassing, don't you think?

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>>87531120

>>87531192
nice self-autism detector, guess I was right.

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So Clooney has a new vanity project? Okay then. But Hollywood should be able to understand that people don't want to be lectured to. Not every film or project has to "say something." People just want to be entertained.

>>87530587
>>87530918
Fucking city people need to be gassed

>>87530587
>shopping for a family with that thing.

>>87529485
what an amazing answer

>>87524341
Christ, how pathologically broken are these fuckin' people?

>>87529485
/ourjews/

>>87531633
it must be really awful if critics are shitting on something that tries to lecture white suburban Americans. They usually love that shit

>>87524341
dude lmao racism

>trump becomes president
>"i know i'll change the script of the most celebrated writers in hollywood to fit my agenda"
>people hate it
BRAVO CLOONEY YOU FUCKING HACK

>>87525711
>>87525711
Didn't Clooney waste more money on Hillary than any other celebrity? Gotta take that anger out somewhere.

>>87524341

why would an amateur try all this artsy shit with deep meaning for their first movie?

The beatles didn't write Hey Jude as their first song, they started out writing shitty punk and pop and then worked their way up to producing meaningful masterpieces. What makes george clooney think he can great impactful social commentary in his first fucking film?

DRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMPFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

>>87525711
Almost guaranteed to be this.

The Cohens are consummate screenwriters and observers of culture.

Clooney on the other hand is up to his eyeballs in responsible social commentary.

They're actually each of them good on their own, but I don't see any plausible way to mesh these two styles.

>>87530587
I knew european "men" were feminine, but this is a real eye opener.

>>87530918
Well those of us with jobs can afford more than one plastic bag worth of groceries.

Racism is literally just an internet meme at this point

>>87529355
I think Clooney is probably a nice guy but just seems really obnoxious about his beliefs.

>>87529967
Not everybody wants to live in a commune with people who smell you commie piece of shit.

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>>87529355
>ugly as fuck
Here is a fan photo where he's making a goofy face. He's a handsome guy

>>87535902
lol this is like his 5th time directing

>>87536791

he's the type of dude who would still be a virgin if he never lucked into money and fame. Nobody finds him attractive outside of the "rich sugardaddy" look

when will celebrities realise that they aren't smart enough to be directors

>>87536986
Sixth

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>>87535902
>first film
Uhh

>>87536791
>He's a handsome guy
He looks like a subhuman, goat fucking sandnigger and that's exactly what he is.

>>87529967
Don't upset the Americans. They actually think the 50s were the peak of culture lol

>>87537005
What's with all the Clooney hate itt? Never liked the guy much but he he's been in a number of great movies. I agree his projects have sucked recently though

>>87535902
Hey Jude was shit.

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>>87537067

maybe once directors realize they're not handsome enough to be celebrities?

>>87524341
>>a dark satire on suburban culture and a commentary on racism.
>>embarrassing to imagine that Clooney, Heslov, and others would think these two plot elements could work seamlessly
Why? Racism seems like a fine target for a dark satire.

>>87529877
CLOONEY ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>87537168
>Clooney was born in Lexington, Kentucky.[11] His mother, Nina Bruce (née Warren; born 1939),[12] was a beauty queen and city councilwoman. His father, Nick Clooney (born 1934), is a former anchorman and game show host who hosted AMC for five years in the late 1990s.[13] Clooney has Irish, German, and English ancestry.[14]

>>87530749
You do have a point desu. Clooney is probably the A-Lister with the worst fame-to-quality movies ratio.

>>87525711
Yes. Jurj Clooners was writing his own racism movie and decided to just fucking combine it with this one.

>>87537434

Johnny depp could give him a run for his money

>>87528664
faggot

>>87537338
>Irish, German, and English ancestry.
So subhuman cuckblood then.

>>87525711
Now why the fuck would you try and fuck with a script written by the Coens themselves? Just film the fucking thing and try to do your best.

>>87537434
>>87537555
https://www.forbes.com/pictures/emjl45efmhm/hollywoods-most-overpai/

>>87537715
Says the portuguese

>>87537715
>he's a sandnigger!
>no he's european
>uhhh he's a cuck then LOL
stop embarrassing yourself faggot

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>>87537715
Look who's talking!

>>87537715
t. roachie

>>87525542
>liberal suburbanite racism

people keep saying this as if it makes sense. what's described in the film is less racism than an inclination towards what's considered exotic.

>>87537185
>he's been in a number of great movies
Name 6.

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>>87526343
>traditional values are creeeeeeeeepy

there are some aspects of traditional values that are exceeding creepy. you only have to live in a household with the sort of doublespeak and double lifestyles these people maintain to realize it. but no, you'd prefer to bitch like a culture can't look in on itself and critique itself. your slavish following of something you barely understand is the problem.

>can we just fucking gas them already

back at you.

>>87531120
>thinks the theater is only made for groups to go see movies

are you retarded? sometimes you have different tastes than your friends or family and sometimes your schedules don't always line up properly.

>>87538085
>Julia Roberts


Did she retire? She's been gone for a while

Fuck suburbia and fuck white people.

>>87538607
i am not saying and i did not imply that i don't want a culture to look in and critique itself

i'm making fun of hollywood's repetitious and over the top condemnations of things they are utterly detached from

>>87538285
>people keep saying this as if it makes sense.


I'm a foreigner and I get what he's talking about. Leftists treat to minorities like we're useless pets to them.

>>87538875
>condemnations of things they are utterly detached from

what makes you think they're detached? of course things change, but in many respects the people who complain about how they're portrayed are mostly upset by how accurate the image is. people prefer to see their lifestyles portrayed in a way that reflects all of the good and none of the bad.

>>87529485
based.

>>87538970
>i'm a foreigner

well, there's your problem. you won't understand all of the subtle cultural dynamics that aren't explicitly spoken which is fine, but don't think that you understand the complexity enough to have a reductionist opinion on the matter as "leftists treat minorities like useless pets". it's a fucking stupid thing to say considering what being treated like a pet is truly like.

>>87539161
fuck you libtard
you commies are the REAL racists

>>87539189
>REAL racists

how about you just look in the mirror.

>>87539161
>>well, there's your problem. you won't understand all of the subtle cultural dynamics that aren't explicitly spoken which is fine,

I speak english perfectly well, you're being discriminatory because I said something you don't like.

>but don't think that you understand the complexity enough to have a reductionist opinion on the matter as "leftists treat minorities like useless pets". it's a fucking stupid thing to say considering what being treated like a pet is truly like.

Not at all m8, I'm tired of leftist painting us like useless idiots that are helpless without their aid. This is racist as fuck, how do you not get that?

>>87538970
As opposed to /pol/lacks who see you as filth?

>>87529967
10 yards away is isolated?

>>87539264
You do realize that most people aren't a retarded marxist leftist or a shitbag /pol/ack, right? Blame the media for that, but most people are considerate moderates.

>>87532048
>walk to the corner market and pick up enough fresh ingredients to make dinner
>do the same every day because a little walking isn't going to kill you
vs.
>load up the rascal scooter with frozen and processed meals that'll keep until your food stamps replenish the first of next month

>>87539161
fuck off idiot. Do you even like in the US?

>>87539260
>I'm tired of leftist painting us like useless idiots that are helpless without their aid. This is racist as fuck, how do you not get that?

No one's stopping you from helping yourself. You may not have noticed, but there are plenty of people that need help, and these groups are trying to help people based on their need as they would help themselves in comparable positions. Just because the jackasses who've only gone to increase inequity on all sides, not only between races, want to perpetuate these extremes, it doesn't mean you have to excuse their behavior because they've somehow twisted this scenario to seeming like somehow helping others is racist. how absolutely fucking stupid do you need to be to fall for that garbage especially when they're all looking for advantages?

>We have 7 more years of this
Trump ruined movies.

>>87539548
>No one's stopping you from helping yourself.
I do help myself, I don't need some douchebag to virtue signal to improve his/her social standing.

>You may not have noticed, but there are plenty of people that need help, and these groups are trying to help people based on their need as they would help themselves in comparable positions

They may have ok intentions, but they're doing it for selfish reasons. Again, we are not their political pawns and we don't need their pity.

>it doesn't mean you have to excuse their behavior because they've somehow twisted this scenario to seeming like somehow helping others is racist.

It is when it means they're using us to push their agenda, we are not victims and we are not oppressed. And most of all, we do not need your help to be rescued from some alt right boogeyman.

I cannot stand leftists, honestly horrible people. Same with the alt right, obviously. Two sides of the same coin, and the media paints it like the whole world is either one or the other.

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>>87524341

oh gee, ANOTHER white guilt movie! Thanks hollywood!

>>87539770
>I do help myself, I don't need some douchebag to virtue signal to improve his/her social standing.

Ugh. You must truly be insightful to be able to understand the motivations behind every good deed. How horrible it must be to be apart of a culture that does GOOD THINGS to increase their social standing. It all sounds so terrible... so horrific!

>>87539770
>>It is when it means they're using us to push their agenda, we are not victims and we are not oppressed. And most of all, we do not need your help to be rescued from some alt right boogeyman.

Hilarious. I don't know who you are, but to think that you somehow don't need help at all or that you're simply doing everything by yourself is true hubris. In fact, that's all your post is saying. You're prideful and probably a liar. Your attempt at feigning competent and self reliant isn't fooling anyone. No matter who you are, there is going to be a time in your life where you need hlep. It's just how life is- but we have those people that recognize this fact and those, like you, who do not.

Good luck developing your political movement- though it may be difficult considering movements require the participation of more than one individual. Given your ideology of the that seems like social darwinism, people may see a contradiction there.

>>87532588
jews never respect the impositions they put on others

>>87540073
>Ugh. You must truly be insightful to be able to understand the motivations behind every good deed. How horrible it must be to be apart of a culture that does GOOD THINGS to increase their social standing. It all sounds so terrible... so horrific!

Look, I'm just pointing out that leftist are propelled by this shallow appearance of false compassion. And it is terrible, because all it shows is that they use this push political agendas.
>Ugh
I honestly don't know if you're being a alt-right flaseflagger, but maybe I'm just being baited. You sound like a typical tumblrite.

>Hilarious. I don't know who you are
That's right, you don't.
>but to think that you somehow don't need help at all or that you're simply doing everything by yourself is true hubris.
Never claimed once I've never needed or accepted help, I get help from friends and family. None of which are retarded college marxists.
> In fact, that's all your post is saying. You're prideful and probably a liar. Your attempt at feigning competent and self reliant isn't fooling anyone.
I'm prideful to an extent, I'm glad I've been equipped by my parents to be self-sufficient as much as possible. Everyone should strive to do the same, why would you want to be a leech?

>No matter who you are, there is going to be a time in your life where you need hlep. It's just how life is- but we have those people that recognize this fact and those, like you, who do not.
Again, never claimed this.

>>87540073
>Good luck developing your political movement- though it may be difficult considering movements require the participation of more than one individual.
What movement? I'm not starting anything new.

> Given your ideology of the that seems like social darwinism, people may see a contradiction there.
I do not believe in social darwinism, We should have a certain level of social security. But at the same time, we shouldn't become a nanny state. No one likes it when they're being taken advantage of by someone who could be pulling their own weight. obviously this doesn't count the disabled and elderly.

You're not a good person anon, you've fallen prey to a ridiculous ideology.

>>87540480
>leftist are propelled by this shallow appearance of false compassion

Cool compassion barometer bro. How does it work exactly?

>>87540480
>Never claimed once I've never needed or accepted help, I get help from friends and family. None of which are retarded college marxists.

but you also said this:
>I do help myself
in the context of needing assistance from others at some point. The claim's intention seems to wholly negate the possibility that you would ever need help regardless of whom you choose to except it from; friends, family, marxists, or otherwise.

>I'm glad I've been equipped by my parents to be self-sufficient as much as possible.

oh, so you suggest good parenting as being instrumental for your success, yet you've no comment on those born without such a luxury.

>Everyone should strive to do the same, why would you want to be a leech?

No where was it EVER suggested that people should strive to leech BUT EVERY FUCKING TIME that's where you idiots take the conversation because you ultimately don't understand the basis of the argument regarding social welfare. Personal responsibility and responsibility to others are not wholly mutually exclusive concepts.

>>87540529
>But at the same time, we shouldn't become a nanny state.

No one said anything about becoming a nanny state.

>>87540529
>No one likes it when they're being taken advantage of by someone who could be pulling their own weight.

poor people not pulling their weight makes you upset, but you seem to ignore rich people taking advantage of your ignorance and inclination to blame poor people for your problems when they're not the reason that your generation takes home fewer dollars for doing the same work as their parents. Inflation increases yet your paycheck stays the same. You don't bitch about that, but when poor people get a few extra pennies from the government, you want to riot? fuck your opinion.