>Past a certain age, a man without a family can be a bad thing.

if you have to ask it's your age

An adult man with no people to care for, or people who care about him, is bad, is what he means I think.
I think it's becoming more of the norm though, especially in an age where the middle class is slowly disappearing, having a family is unsustainable, more entertainment than ever makes you want less responsibity, and laws that discriminate men by default make one not want to get involved with a woman at all, let alone have children with them.

Thoughts?

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>>87519922
You want the basic gestalt?

Human happiness is fleeting.
We are designed to gain happiness and fulfillment through the completion of goals.

The pursuit of said goals is what drives us. However individuals fail to realize that the consequence of obtaining a goal is the need to begin again.

A family provides a center of sustainability. You take on the goals of your wife and children and help them. Through this you may then have purpose and a constant drive.

Without this, after you reach the goals you set for your life, placing the desire for a family by the wayside as you do, you have to face the reality of what I mentioned prior.

>>87520210
But what's wrong with a man focusing on himself, or focusing on others who aren't his family? If I go out and do missionairy work in Africa, help people, but don't have a family, is that a bad thing?

>>87519998
Im 36, I think it's not too late

Whatever age OP was when he decided reposting the same stupid threads every single day was a good use of his time.

>>87519922
Rust held up fine, arguably better than he did.

>>87521003
I think that was the point, Marty couldn't see that he was basically as unstable as Rust, just in different ways.

>>87519922
I know this is a meme thread that will hit 200+ replies but, realistically, he was talking about ~35.

>>87521003
but Marty lost his family

>>87520210
It's unsustainable and it's pure suffering, financially and emotionally. You're also barely allowed to raise them the way you want today, and you're not even expected to have the time to do so. Literally no reason to have a child in the modern world. If you build your life on the expectation of not having family and kids you'll be ten times happier.

>>87519922
Nothing, guy was a huge fucking hypocrite.

>>87520325
Good post.

>>87519922
Marty is a fucking hypocrite so who gives a fuck what he meant
I'd rather hang out with Rust who's actually honest about himself instead of a lying cheating prick like Marty

>>87520325
How does he plan to hang himself from that tree?

How about a gf? At age is being a virgin a bad thing?

>>87519922
30 is the cutoff

>>87521533
17

>>87521533
16/17

>>87521533
Most people lose their virginity around 17. If you're 23 and you haven't lost it you're already in the top 5% of the positive skewed curve.

That's worrying anon. An indicator of social retardation.

>>87521694
Does it count if I was raped by a guy?

>>87521717
Yes, so you're good.

>>87519922
Anyone over the age of 30 who is unmarried with no kids has failed at life.

>>87521770
This. You're useless to the society and you should probably just kill yourself.

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>>87520210
you hit the nail on the head

>>87520497
>If I go out and do missionairy work in Africa, help people, but don't have a family, is that a bad thing?

uhhh

>helping niggers
>doing a good thing

pick one

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>>87521770
>>87521827
Thanks guys

>>87521887
That was just an example. I would most likely help animals in some way, they're the ones who need it. With my military background, my dream job is either hunting poachers or shooting at Somali pirates from a 70 foot tall freight ship

>>87522134
Oh my god what's next, you want to be an astronaut and shoot niggers from outer space?

>>87522187
I never said niggers, there are white somalis

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>>87519922
>just noticed this isn't a picture of jason statham

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>>87522187
Not a bad dream though.

>>87519922
>cheats
>daughter is a degerate
>lost his family
>dates women in their 40s on tinder

yes, you totally should take an advice on adulthood from this man

>>87524211
Marty is more of a man than any of us here
He's a troubled man though

>>87522475
kek

>>87520210
Accurate, sadly

>>87519922
>tfw this is actually an interesting question to think about because it has broad implications on the debate of what is more important the state vs the individual, but it's just some trolling tv autistic faggot who can't even understand a basic plot without having it spelled out for him on wikipedia.

fuck you op. fuck you hard.

>>87521717
No, that just makes you a fag

>>87521770
Sure, if you don't have a career, nice house, nice car, nice clothes, fit body, money in the bank, and the choice to travel wherever you want whenever you want

>>87521887
Go back to /pol/ idiot.

>>87524916
Who is thie Cooty Queen?

>>87524986
Go back to redshit, triggered SJW faglord

>>87520497
yes lets help more africans live on whats essential 1st world welfare and allow their populations to bloom out of control

>>87524916
This is a nightmare. I don't know if I could ever handle having a daughter because of this. The constant worst case scenarios I would roll in my head when she's out would ruin me

>>87519922
It gets weird once you hit 40. You're still safe at 35+ but you need to be making good money for the potential wife.

>>87524211
the women he cheats with are sexy as fuck desu

>>87525073
You could replace her with a guy in drag.

>>87522475
no way

>>87525133
>but you need to be making good money for the potential wife.
>actually being a beta provider
Fuck that. My money for my ass.

>>87521770

I just turned 30 and dont have a wife or kids but now I have my own house debt free so am in a position to raise a family right.

I think what woody harrelson means is that after a certain age if you dont have a family to tie you down you will go off the rails

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>>87521770
>>87524917

>>87520707
You're wrong.

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>>87519922
Im 23 and never even had a gf, is it over for me?

>>87526215
>seriously implying men can't father children well into their 60's and leave their genes for the next generation without having to suffer through raising it

>>87519922
The whole point of that was to show how even though he was the one "doing everything right" in life, he was still deadbeat trash and philanderer, and ended up losing his family, house, etc. anyway in the end.

He was an allegory to that one douchebag everyone knows, who goes through life in similar fashion.

>>87526232
i'm 31 and i met my first gf last year at a mental asylum

you'll make it

>>87520497
>If I help niggers so they continue to live in squalor and I refuse to contribute to the white race, am I doing good?
No. You'd be better off hopping on benefits and playing games for the rest of your life.

Somebody who only focuses on himself is selfish. Someone who only focuses on himself and strangers/acquaintances is selfish and virtue signalling.

Is this the thread where /pol/tards blame society and the system for their own failures?

>>87526400

Oh yeah, that relationship will end well.

>>87526471
that and /r9k/, if there's a difference between them.

>>87526400
>at a mental asylum
story?

>>87526471
That's funny considering it's mostly ANTIFA out there raising a stink over the exact same shit. If they were doing so well in life, they wouldn't out there. Human nature.

>>87526500
it's looking pretty good. i was just depressed and had some anxiety issues, she had eating disorder. both well now.

>>87526504
Only difference is /pol/ goes outside

>>87526509
Not much to tell, really. I'm an orderly and she's a schitzo that started hungrily sucking my dick inside the janitor closet a few months ago. If that isn't dating then I don't know what is. Hopefully no one ever finds out else I'd be fired though lol

>>87526509
well i decided to kills myself, but in the middle of it decided not to, and scheduled an appointment with my doctor instead, literally cried like a bitch when i opened up about it. she signed me into what's basically the emergency room for mental cases, spent a week there, then was transferred to a facility that treated depression and anxiety issues. i lived on the first floor, the eating disorder girls were on the 2nd floor. we met outside where we were playing volleyball, and she was sitting on the grass looking at us, with her handler. i asked if the wanted to play, and she joined my team, started talking a bit. we both joined this exercise group at the facility where we went jogging or cycling two days a week, and continued in this group after we both left the facility. the rest is history.

>>87526232
It's over when you're dead. No exceptions. Don't let anyone ever tell you different. Love, money, happiness, success, family, friends. All of those you can still have and have plenty of. Look forward, love yourself, improve yourself, help others improve themselves, be interesting, read, exercise, watch great movies that make you think, write, paint, play piano. When you truly stop caring about people loving you and liking you, and when you truly start doing stuff for you (no ulterior motives like working out in hopes girls like you more, or playing guitar to seem more cool) then all else will come. People, and women especially, hate to be excluded. When they see a dude who cares so little about others in a nonchalant way (not being an asshole) and enjoys life so much on his own, they can't help but be attracted. "He's so mysterious. Why is he so happy? What is he doing right? I want to get to know him"

>>87521401
But wait...
What if I
raise a family in this day and age
but
hear me out
but
I do it
IrOnIcAlLy?

>>87525073
Just rape her as she starts to hit puberty. She'll never trust men ever again and will always stay home, dressed in chaste clothes, reading books.

>>87526232
if you're going to spend the rest of your years in your apartment browsing 4chan and watching movies and televison, then yes.

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>>87519922
Lmao who gives a shit about what that hypocrite says.
>A man must betray his holy vow of marriage (btw did u guis know I'm a huge christian XD) to keep the marriage nice and stable ok?
>WTF U FUCKING THOT (that I used to cheat my daughters mother constantly) HOW CUM U SUCK SUM OTHER NIGGAS DICK?!?!
>WTF MY DAUGHTER WITH DADDY ISSUES TURNED INTO A ROASTIE LIKE THE ONE I FUCKED??? WITH A COCK IN HER MOUTH AND ANOTHER ONE IN HER ASSSSS!!! HOW DID THAT HAPPENED?????

every single person in your line leading up to you had a wife and a family, this is all ingrained in your fucking dna

if you think this won't have a significant psychological effect once you reach the age where they did it, you are delusional

after leading an empty selfish and hedonistic life you realize and crave for something more traditional, it's simply how it works, the god news for men is that you have all the time in the world to come to this realization but for women they have a shorter window and must start before they hit 30 nd the eggs dry up

It's funny, 23/M/no gf here and in a terrible romantic situation with best friend. But losing her as a friend has given me the confidence to make friendships with random Women at uni.

I don't think it's a question of age, but more how long can you hold onto the crippling loneliness before you do something dumb.

>>87526939
>empty
Not an argument.

>selfish
Having kids is also selfish.

>crave for something more traditional
Traditionalism is dead.

>>87526939
> for women they have a shorter window and must start before they hit 30 nd the eggs dry up
This science is based off of researching French peasants circa early 1900s

That timer doesn't exist

>>87526939
my grandma was never married

>>87527028
Not that guy but good luck with autistic asperger babies.

>>87527004
yeah, i doubt there are many men that reach 75+ without ever having found a woman, that's just torture

>>87527008
having children is selfish but selfish is not inherently a negative word, smart people in the first world have a duty to breed as much as possible to outweigh the horrific damages caused by the third world animals
>>87527028
lmao when women hit 30 the chance the kid will be autistic skyrockets

>>87527070
The chance of that happening isn't all that higher than any earlier age. There's a lot of other more important factors like genealogy, alcohol/smoking habits

>>87527129
Well statistically you're wrong.

>>87527121
>smart people in the first world have a duty to breed as much as possible to outweigh the horrific damages caused by the third world animals
No. It's not your duty to be a breeding animal. It's your duty not to bring those people in. You absolutely cannot motivate people to produce 5 or more kids in the current year to outweigh the hordes of niggers sailing towards us. In the normal society you wouldn't even need that many kids because of automation.

The current system is punishing hard working considerate people and because women are choosing business over marriage you can't sit her down and impregnate her constantly. She will settle down in her early thirties and be happy with one spergy child at max.

>>87527320
you are right, it's annoying when people say "umm just have 8 kids dumbass white genocide isn't real" i shouldn't have to make 8 fucking kids because my country was forcibly made to take in literal fucking boat loads of invaders without my approval or consent

no matter how high you try to raise native birthrates in europe they will just drown you with these monkeys against your will

>>87527028
>That timer doesn't exist
mate it isn't just the autism thing, hardly anyone thinks about that, though they probably should. when women hit 30(or earlier for some) their looks drop off fast and furiously. Since looks are the #1 thing men want in women well, it's bad news for them fast when they hit that age. A good looking girl in her early 20's can get nearly any guy she wants, fast forward to her 30's and if she is still single(or divorced or whatever) you find them settling for the beta friends that were waiting for their chance. In their 40's they'll be lucky to find an autist from 4chan to support their wine drinking and 5 cats. There are exceptions of course, so dont bother posting some hot actress that is 50, but a general rule is if you are female best find a guy before you are 30. If you don't your options get limited FAST. This isn't true for men for a variety of reasons that have been discussed every damn day here so i won't get into it.

It really blows my mind that losing virginity is normal by 17. I'm already six years past that and still a virgin. No job no nothing. I tell myself I bear witness. But the real answer is that it's obviously my programming. And I lack the constitution for suicide.

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>>87526258
>Implying thats the rule and not the exception
Besides its cruel to die when your kid is still a young adult.

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>>87527544
Thing is, white genocide isn't real. White suicide is. And women are pulling the trigger.

Weak beta men allowed them to vote and put them on equal footing so their instinct voted in the age of uneducated animals that will take that away from her. If a man is equal to her, then he is undeserving of her.

>>87527766
It will make for interesting historiography a few centuries from now about how people willingly chose to stop existing as a group and professed moral superiority for it.

>>87527654
I'd probably be a shitty father so it'd be doing them a favor.

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>>87527766
It's somewhat poetic that white men gave their women freedom of voting only for said women to revoke that right by importing millions of muslims who see them as nothing more than cattle to control.

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>>87527868
Women's genes will be passed down. Like always. Tribe invades other tribe, they kill the men, their women marry their killers as harem wives.

Men who allowed themselves to be cucked into extinction.

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>>87527905
Women don't want freedom. They want security under masculine men. This is why censorship is a thing.

It's just evolution. Feminism is the ultimate shit test. If your woman tells you to stop being masculine, and you oblige thinking this is what she wants, then you fail the test and you out yourself as a beta who is desperate enough to castrate himself to keep her. That means you're not worthy of her and that she can do better.

>>87521694
I'm 38 and I still haven't lost it
>but i don't do anything so i get by

>>87519922
He meant to spread propaganda and shame you for trying to be furthest from the world, because people want you to lose with them.

>>87528192
I'm fairly optimistic about the whole thing but jesus christ. 38? How does that happen? I go out with people like once a year and I recently got invited to a party where instantly I hit it off wih a girl and we talked and cuddled but I was too drunk so nothing happened. Didnt have the balls to call her so still a virgin, but that gave me hope that if I go out more that it'll happen. My head math was "if I go out like once a year and I almost got laid then certainly if I go out more it's bound to happen". My problem is being social enough to get out fairly often. Even the friends I do have I don't go out with. What's your situation?

>>87521401
>If you build your life on the expectation of not having family and kids you'll be ten times happier.

I guess that is what you will say to yourself on your deathbed

>>87529364
Who gives a shit about the 5 final minutes of your life?

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>>87529364
>I guess that is what you will say to yourself on your deathbed

I'm basically guaranteed to get Alzheimers so even if I had wife and kids, I sure as fuck wouldn't remember any of them.

>>87527609
>It really blows my mind that losing virginity is normal by 17
It's not that normal, especially for men. Half of all men in history never passed on their genes at all.

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>>87530065
We might have medication for Alzheimers as soon as 2022. Earlier than you'll suffer it.

>>87519922
This is the writers pointing out the flaws in an attitude of "reproducing is a good thing for everyone". Marty neglected and cheated on his wife and kids and destroyed his family because of it. Rust had a family, had it taken away from him, and of course didn't start over because he was too depressed about it. He didn't hurt his family and never hurt anyone that didn't deserve it/threatened his life. It's a caution against this opinion that people need to have kids when some neglect or even abuse them and ruin lives.

>>87521694
not just social retardation but literal mental retardation and/or mental illness (e.g. autism)

social retardation isn't *just* social retardation, there tends to be a trigger somewhere. and that trigger usually lies in either low IQ or autism.

>>87528707
>My head math was "if I go out like once a year and I almost got laid then certainly if I go out more it's bound to happen".

"I bought a lotto ticket and was only one number off, man winning the lottery is easy!"

>>87520497
>If I go out and do missionairy work in Africa, help people, but don't have a family


Sure thing, friendo. No one cares about anyone but themselves. People do good in the world because their kids have to live in it later. But a guy with no family, doesn't give a fuck.

>>87520707
40-45 is the cut-off
after that, you either date young airheads, or roasties, and your kids pop out like little chavs

>>87530301
Except winning the lotto is like 1 in a few hundred million but getting a girl is ez because every chum has one.

>>87528707
Not going out once a year.

>>87519922
>jews telling white people to get a family
What did they mean by this?

>>87521533
Are you religious?

>>87524211
>the words coming out his mouth were written television show writer

>OMG anon doesn't have a family he's such a creepy loser

>did you see Leo with his model harem on tmz he's 40 and still fucking around without giving a shit about getting married he's so free and alpha

Normie logic

>>87531110
You're not handsome, rich and popular like Leo.

>>87526810
Girls that are molested or raped at a young age tend to be sluts in their adult life.

>>87531194
I can fuck a different escort every week and be more free and save more money than the normie judging me but I'd still be considered a weirdo for not conforming to their standards, meanwhile they worship people who don't care about conformism. They are hypocritical.

>>87530937
Art is a reflection of life. It doesn't matter what the artists intention was, only what the viewer sees and interprets

>>87531473
You're not rich, handsome or popular, you're an insufferable cunt that posts drivel on a mongolian fly fishing board. Deal with it.

>>87526939
reproduction is selfish - you create another being that has to suffer and die because you need a pet that is more inteligent than a dog. Fuck you.

>>87519922

Past a certain age, a man without a family can end up shitposting Bane and feet and BANJI and Blacked spam on /tv/.

He was talking about people stuck on /tv/.

He was talking about you.

>>87531784
tell that to africa lmao

>>87521218

35 is also about the age where your sperm will start making autismal babbys. If you don't want the world to be full of Sheldons from Big Bang Theory, need to breed before 35.

>>87531805
Can you see Texas from that high horse? What do you know about these people?

>>87521770
>Anyone over the age of 30 who is unmarried with no kids has failed at life.

Paul Allen? Isaac Newton?

Yasujiro Ozu "remained single throughout his life and lived with his mother until she died, less than two years before his own death" and his film Tokyo Story was voted the best film of all time by film directors in the world.

What happened to the threads where they said the age was 40?

>>87521827
Nobody owes society shit.

If anything, less people filling up roads, airports, city streets is a good thing.

>>87531873
Nah, that's only for women. A man in his 50s can father a healthy child.

>>87522134
>military background
>dreams of killing other humans

story checks out

>>87526258

Like Marc Maron said, old men have old man babies, their kids are pussies, they're cold all the time and need sweaters, they can't throw a baseball. Oh and there's also the autism.

>>87527609
You can still make a life out of yourself at 23 dude. It's pretty common. For college kids to come out with no work at 23.

For losing your virginity, consider prostitution so you finally wake up the next day and realise nobody cares, and you are still the same as you were yesterday just a little more aware.

>>87526400
>i'm 31 and i met my first gf last year at a mental asylum

Reminds me of what a weird show Legion was.

>>87526810

The other day, Dr Phil had an episode where some sleazebag father got custody of his daughter (the mother must have been fucking horrible) and he basically made his daughter his "daughter-wife" and had sex with her from the age of 11 to 23. After she told a friend, and the friend made it public, he killed himself.

>>87519922
30

>>87526939

Okay, but you still don't know how many of your uncles and aunts, great uncles and aunts, and so on never had children.

It's wrong to think that you were the goal of all your ancestors. It could just be accident after accident after accident. Hell, people didn't even know what germs were until about the 1860s.

Oh, and having children is more selfish than not having them.

>>87526753
What? A reasonable post? Here? What a time to be alive!

>>87526675
This must be one of the most unusual "how daddy and mom met?" story out there.

>>87527028

Not that guy, but women do have a shorter window of fertility than men. For women it's maybe 13 to 45 or so. For men it's maybe 13 to 90s+.

Also, the older you get the more mutations that sperm and eggs accumulate. That's why women who have babies after 35 are more likely to have babies with Down syndrome. That's why men who have babies after 35 are more likely to have babies with autism, mental illness, depression, schizophrenia, etc.

And since men produce tons of sperm all the time, sperm tend to accumulate more mutations than eggs.

>>87527121
>having children is selfish but selfish is not inherently a negative word, smart people in the first world have a duty to breed as much as possible to outweigh the horrific damages caused by the third world animals

If you have children, your children will suffer. If you don't have children, they can't suffer.

If third worlders want to make children, who will suffer, that's their problem.

>>87519922
There is not set age, but once you're over the hill it looks bad if you don't have a wife or kids or both.

If you're unmarried by 30 you should probably just kill yourself. There's no hope for you.

>>87527609
>I tell myself I bear witness. But the real answer is that it's obviously my programming. And I lack the constitution for suicide.

Nice quotes.

>>87527868

Less white people, less white suffering.

More brown people, more brown suffering. They are free to inherit this shitshow of a planet.

Best to get out now before shit really hits the fan in the next 100 years.

>>87527905
Women are their own worst enemy.

>>87528124
>Women don't want freedom. They want security under masculine men.

This

>It's just evolution. Feminism is the ultimate shit test.

This

>That means you're not worthy of her and that she can do better.

This.

Human women are maybe the most hierarchical of anyone. Women don't believe in equality, they believe in above/below. If you're not above her, you're below her.

>>87520707
I'm 29 and I feel like it is too late

Thanks for the optimism

Hoping to get my life back on track before I turn 30 next year

>>87528707
>38? How does that happen?
>still a virgin

There you go.

It could be a lifetime of no opportunities, it could be a lifetime of missed opportunities, it could be a lifetime of near misses.

But what difference does it make? Any man who evaluates his worth according to women is an idiot.

>>87530258

If you don't have a family, then your family can't be destroyed.

If you don't have children, then your children can't be neglected.

If you don't have children, then your children can't be abused.

If you don't have children, then your children can't be murdered by a serial killer.

>>87530301
>"I bought a lotto ticket and was only one number off, man winning the lottery is easy!"
top kek

>>87519922


I'm 30 years old and I have spent most of my life chasing a career and a life of wealth. Once I turned about 28 and a half, I kind of lost my mind and started to understand what I was doing was dangerous. I'm successful but I have nothing in life that makes me happy anymore, everything I used to collect just doesn't bring me happiness and I'm slowly losing my mind on a weekly basis. Friday/Saturday nights are really hard on me and I'm not afraid to admit it anymore.

I'm rich and I will probably be alone forever. I have another 15 good years in me and by the time I'm in my mid 40s, I might give up on life and cash out of the US and move overseas to live out the rest of my days as a retired American. I'll probably spend most nights drinking on the beach, until I die of old age and liver toxicity in my 50s

>>87530318
>But a guy with no family, doesn't give a fuck.

A guy with no family leaves the world a better place for others to live in it later. Overcrowding is hell.

>>87532660
i fucking knew it. i knew my autism was a result of my mom and dad being 37 when they had me. time to rub it in their face

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>>87520497
>missionary work in Africa

>>87531110

Women care about popularity, status, power, money, domination. Leo has all of those (maybe not so much the last one, but the other things make up for his lack of that).

Since women are herd animals, they follow what other women like. A guy who gets lots of pussy is Pussy Approved. A guy who doesn't get pussy is Not Pussy Approved, so they figure there must be something wrong with him, hence a creepy loser. He doesn't have the Pussy Stamp of Approval. That's why it's always easier for a guy in a relationship to find another woman, because he's already been vouched for by pussy.

For a single guy, the question is always "why don't you have a girlfriend?" "What's wrong with him?" It's like a watering hole with no hippos at it. What's wrong with the water? Will it make me sick? Am I going to die if I go in there?

>>87531341

Yes.

http://loveline.wikia.com/wiki/Repetition_Compulsion
>Repetition compulsion is a psychological phenomenon in which a person repeats a traumatic event or its circumstances over and over again. This includes reenacting the event or putting oneself in situations where the event is likely to happen again.

>Dr. Drew often uses the definition "Events that are terrorizing in childhood become sources if immense attraction in adulthood" and describes the causal relationship as "magical," refering metaphorically to how reliably it occurs, yet people are unaware of it.

>Drew and other mental health professionals have only been able to speculate that it is a misguided attempt for the person to "master" the terror of their childhood by doing it again but this time it having a different result.

26 virgin here. any qt femanon wanna pop my cherry? come on now, make a reject happy. secure your spot in heaven.

>>87528124
>Feminism is the ultimate shit test
this, but in a broader sense.
shit tests are annoying, but a healthy and normal thing. but feminism was a shit test by woman that failed to reproduce in time themselves. for the "right" to shit test your man, well you need a man for that. they bypassed this by going directly to the state.
so men now have to put their foot down for women they aren´t even interested in - putting that foot down will have legal consequences because said failed shittest is already legal coda in most western countrys

>>87531949

Nice quote. But it's probably better to have a family than be stuck on /tv/ forever.

You see the same phenomenon on Wikipedia. All the normal people are too busy raising a family, so Wikipedia is full of basement dwellers, trannies, furries, all kinds of degenerates who have plenty of free time, just a ragtag group of total weirdos.

>>87519922
30.
You should have your first child at the age of 30 so your son will be 18 when you're still 48.

>>87532025

Men and women are more likely to have fucked up kids the longer they wait to have kids. Yes, it's possible a man in his 50s can father a healthy child. But it's about likelihood, odds: common, uncommon, rare. The odds of having a healthy child go down as a parent gets older (because mutations accumulate).

"Children born to parents who are 35 or older are at an increased risk of autism, and the risk continues to rise with parental age."
https://spectrumnews.org/news/parental-age-different-impact-autism-schizophrenia/

Study Ties Dad’s Age to Risk of Autism, Other Mental Disorders in Kids
https://www.autismspeaks.org/science/science-news/study-ties-dad%E2%80%99s-age-risk-autism-other-mental-disorders-kids

The Risks of Fathering a Child As You Age
http://www.menshealth.com/health/age-and-risks-of-fathering-a-child

"Only about nine percent of total births occur in mothers over age 35 – but about 25% of babies with Down Syndrome are born to women in this age group."
http://www.mychildwithoutlimits.org/understand/down-syndrome/what-causes-down-syndrome/down-syndrome-risk-factors/

"The likelihood that a woman under age 30 who becomes pregnant will have a baby with Down syndrome is less than one in 1,000, but the chance of having a baby with Down Syndrome increases to 1 in 400 for women who become pregnant at age 35. The likelihood of Down Syndrome continues to increase as a woman ages, so that by age 42, the chance is one in 60 that a pregnant woman will have a baby with Down syndrome, and by age 49, the chance is one in 12."

>>87536016
thats barely too late IMO. ideal range for kids is 23-29. That way you're not in your fucking late 50's when your kid graduates high school like my parents were.

>>87536137
>tfw mother had me when she was 41
no wonder i turned out like this kek

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Jesus /tv/ stop being so melodramatic, is fucking sad

>>87536269
>implying it's not okay to get mad at our parents for forcing complications on us just by being lazy fucks

>>87520210
Having a family in this day and age is not sustainable, not really. At least not without building yourself up beforehand. I've had friends who have had their planned career choices go to shit because their gf popped up a kid and now they're stuck at a dead end job providing for it with all their ambitions thrown in the shitter.

>>87535497

Paul Allen is is the 46th richest person in the world, with a net worth of about $20 billion. Paul Allen has never married, has no children, and has been known to be reclusive.

If you do move overseas, just don't end up one of those degenerate evil rich people.

>>87521694
>>87530293
Being social has nothing to do with it. I have several groups of friends I go out with. Still a virgin at 22.

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>tfw if my parents had just had me 5 years earlier i could have been normal and sociable instead of an autist who can't into regular conversations

>>87535632

Other risk factors for autism (besides older parents) include an obese mom with diabetes (4x higher risk), moms with infections (2x higher risk for moms with active genital herpes infections, 2x higher risk for moms with the flu, 3x higher risk for moms with a fever lasting a week or longer), if both parents are "geeky", etc.

>>87536349
I think I just had my mind blown, if I do have kids and I am currently successful my kids will turn adult age when I'm in my early 50s. This isn't good is it, this is so fucked up

I should probably not have my own kids, but find some chick to settle down with who has kids. I don't want to die in my 60s and have my kids be in their mid 20s

>>87536341
That reminds me. I need to watch Blue Valentine again.

>mom and dad are talking the other day about family lineage
>my dad mentions that I'm literally the last male with his family name who is capable of continuing the line, all I have is sisters and everyone else in his family is unmarried/childless/only has daughters
Well, I guess that's it for that because the reason I even heard this conversation was due to living at home at the age of 29

>>87536784
>caring about a lineage of a bunch of peasant farmers

I don't get this, you're not some kind of nobility or rich plutocrat my man. Why would the 'family name' be important? Especially considering that same name is probably carried by millions of other people...

>"FUCKING MODERN MANCHILDREN, CAN'T PULL THEMSELVES UP BY THEIR BOOTSTRAPS AND START A FAMILY HUH? TOO BUSY WITH NETFLIX AND VIDEO GAMES I BET HAHA....btw you are too privileged please sign this form saying we can throw you in the salt mines if you ever get married and your wife is displeased with you"

>>87536699

If a parent waits a long time to have children, they risk dying before their children are adults who can fend for themselves.

If you're rich and you die you can leave money to your kids. If they're young when you die they may end up like horrible shits (case in point, Bella Thorne). If they're older, adults, then the inheritance may really help them out (kids typically won't inherit anything until they turn 18, but the lack of father figure until then can really mess them up).

Then again, you can leave your money to whoever you want. Nieces, nephews, some rich people have even left money to their pets. I guess some people even try to spend it all.

Brewster's Millions is a movie from 1985 with Richard Pryor, where he has to spend $30 million in 30 days in order to inherit $300 million. I like it.

>>87536912
It's not even a choice between that. It's a choice between career and having a family where you have to abandon everything to solely care for your wife and potential child. In the past, you could have both easily, in the modern age? Not so much.

>>87536784

Pay to have your genome sequence (it might be $10,000 or less now). Have it digitized, immortalized. In that case, you don't even need to be around for your genes to continue, someone in the future could always just look up the DNA, use it to make a new child.

>>87536528
what about if mydad had diabetes?

>>87537038
I don't know about that. You could do some googling.

If someone has an austism spectrum disoder, they can almost always blame their parents. In fact, most children can blame their parents for fucking them up in some way. Either genetically, or how they were raised, or what they were taught, or what they were fed, or where they lived, or what time of the year they chose to have sex, etc.

I just think of how different things could have been if my parents lived somewhere else.

>>87521827
how about i kill society an burn this world to the ground

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I'm 31 right now and the situation is so bad i am thankful i was raped non-stop by various kin from age 8-13. The very least i can say i'm not a virgin and has done it all sexually.

>>87535347
Nah bro you're good for at least another 15 years.

Hell, Bill Burr just got married and had his first kid at like 50.

>>87520497
Anon your road is your own, dont rely on the directions of others when following it. but maybe take notes.

>>87529364
>y-you'll regret not wasting 20+ years of your life slaving away for mr shekelstein to (((provide))) for your family instead of doing something you like
Lol

>>87537657
That's what I'm freaking out about right now. I don't want to die and have my kids be very young, holy shit

What have I done with my life? Why, did I pursue a career instead of having a family.
M

My cousin is 2 years younger than me and has 4 kids already. My sister is 2 years younger than me, and has a kid. My cousins are fucking married with families

>Jesus, I'm rich and pathetic as fuck
I've never thought about having kids

>>87520210
>If you build your life on the expectation of not having family and kids you'll be ten times happier.

This. I work and make a lot of money (150k/year) and I save a lot of it and spend the rest on myself. All my free time is spent on entertainment or interesting side projects.

I'm content with this and I don't see the purpose in getting married to some slut who's had 100 sexual partners.

>>87537981
How old are you?

I'm 29, and at 155k with bonuses right now and I'm not sure if having kids is right

I'm single, no gf...

>Tfw no gf

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>>87530293
Uh, you're actually wrong. Having high IQ means you're less likely to have sex or lose your virginity.

>>87538053
26 and in tech. I guess kids could be worth it if you found the right girl who would make a good mother, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a huge drain on your time and money.

>>87536137
>Study Ties Dad’s Age to Risk of Autism, Other Mental Disorders in Kids
>https://www.autismspeaks.org/science/science-news/study-ties-dad%E2%80%99s-age-risk-autism-other-mental-disorders-kids
>The Risks of Fathering a Child As You Age
>http://www.menshealth.com/health/age-and-risks-of-fathering-a-child
Neither study controlled for partner age.
Garbage studies.

>>87526753
probably the best 4chan post i've seen this month

>>87520325
But wouldn't a man with a family have something to lose as opposed to someone who is alone? A family man would be too cautious and wouldn't risk his skin.

>>87537981
>make a lot of money (150k/year)
>>87538053
>I'm 29, and at 155k with bonuses

Doing what?

>>87540455
I'm in tech

Also, I'm 29 but one day might make more and not to mention if I do get married and she has her shit together

More money = more travel = more fun

I watch films to forget about the fact I never lost my virginity, then a thread like this comes along.
I kind of want to kill myself.

>>87538120
>Having high IQ means you're less likely to have sex or lose your virginity.

I believe it.

Women prefer dumb jocks, not smart nerds (unless that smart nerd is rich, but it's not like stadiums of women throw their panties at Bill Gates).

Furthermore, the Dunning-Kruger effect is where stupid people are too stupid to realize how stupid they are. So they've overconfident. And women love confident men. Stupid people are more confident than smarter people. Smarter people are more likely to underestimate their abilities, because they know how much they don't know. Stupid people think they know everything. Stupid people are too stupid to realize how much ability they lack, which makes them confident.

The more children a couple have, the dumber they usually are. There's a reason that people with more education (and more money) tend to have less children.

>>87538571

There are lots of studies linking older fathers to increased risk of autistic children. Look them up.

>>87540643
>have sex or lose your virginity
what's the difference

>>87540584
How old are you?

>>87530231
So if everything will be cured in my lifetime, why worry about being alone on my deathbed? If I stay young forever, I'll die because of some accident.

>>87540913
27 in 2 weeks

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>>87520210
>Thoughts?
It's about (((their))) globalist agenda. They want to run a prison planet of border-less, race-less, culture-less, nation-less, identity-less subdued sheep. They make up less than 1% of the world's population, yet look at all they control from the world's finances to the media that brainwashes us.

In short, they use the entertainment and news media to encourage globalism and discourage nationalism and traditional western values. They distort and lie about the present and past in that effort.

The truth about immigration, by the numbers:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

Cultural Marxist Jews Admit Organizing White Genocide

The plan to eliminate the white race:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOgkGzMdieI

Cultural Marxism in action… Political Correctness, the tip of the blade:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6c_dinY3fM

Cultural Marxism & Social Justice explained:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnqIj8C2Aek

Why are we in decline - Cultural Marxism:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VggFao85vTs

The Jewish role in the refugee crisis:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfCOO7Z39j0

Leftist subversion explained by former KGB agent Yuri Bezmenov:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hWYgPDVX_8

also see

The facts about slavery in North America:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5tci36bNjg
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFHa4db3hA0
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A94smJ9QJ5g

Cultural Marxist Jews fund media propaganda against whites on an enormous scale:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvNNtBmA3SQ

The Jewish role in the porn industry:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwd_Iofr6ZQ

>>87541013

Along those same lines...

The End Goal Of Western Progressivism Is Depopulation
http://www.rooshv.com/the-end-goal-of-western-progressivism-is-depopulation

>>87520210
Literally only a problem with white """"""men"""""". They're more interested in ordering stranger's sperm off the internet and then eating it in a dress on webcam.

I get so fucking sad after reading threads like this yet I continue to read them as a way to punish myself for wasting my life.

>>87527609
its really easy to get laid dude. you dont try. thats why you dont get laid.

an average looking guy can get a fuck without even trying, below average takes some effort but its still easy.

I promise you if you get a job and let events flow naturally you will get a woman within a year MAX.

dont buy the line that sex is sacred and that a woman must save herself for you. that shit is exclusively peddled by people that want others to be as miserable as them.

>>87540584
>watch a great film, get really into it
>there's a sex scene out of nowhere
>i break down crying because now i hate the movie and the feelings it brings up inside me of jealousy

>>87541707
Lmao dude. Why aren't you out getting laid right now maaan?

>>87540584
just go fuck a hooker and be done with it if its that important ffs

>>87541924
because ive been a pathetic neet and heroin addict(currently about 8 months clean) for the majority of my adult life and even I can have sex with some time back in the real world. I've never fucked another addict either. The dude laid lmao talk was meant to be a little ironic but the point stands.

>>87542055
you still feel shitty after 8 months? just curious. i've quit tons of times but never feel right no matter how long i go

>>87541428
This. After Trump who cares if they all die off.

>>87542303
kind of. motivation is hard to come by but its ok. I took a few months of sub at the start and I think without that buffer id have a lot more trouble. a little better everyday, you know all the cliche shit.

>>87541707
>I promise you if you get a job and let events flow naturally you will get a woman within a year MAX.
Yeah.. no.

>>87538053
>>87538223
>>87540518
married with a kid here. don't do it. don't fuckin' do it. not a single day goes by where i don't think about my old single life. i was so much happier then.

>>87521694
>t. old guy
Our generation has absorbed the full impact of feminism. Women do not date average guys anymore. They just exclusively fuck Chads, which is all they have been wanting to do since they asked for the vote.

This isn't only affecting autists. I just got a job and all the other young men seem jaded too. Nobody cares when it affects only the "1%"ers who post here, but when it starts to affect 80% of guys, it's going to be a real large scale problem.

>>87538120
>no stratification by age
>15 and older all lumped together
really jogs the noggin
even then, 32% of 130+ IQ teenagers still had sex

>>87542577
I promise you're doing something wrong that's very easy to fix. I'm not an expert or anything, I could never tell you what you're doing wrong but i've seen the evidence. Anyone can have sex. Anyone can have a relationship. As long as they are willing to fail, willing to learn and willing to let yourself be hurt and get deep in the shit so you can experience it. Friends, family, job, hobbies are all avenues that can lead to or combine to become what you desire most. The bad poosy.

>>87542597
go fuck yourself

>>87543607
Whats the matter anon?

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>>87520497


>mission trips in Africa

You're a good Christian, which necessitates that you are an absolutely worthless human being.

>>87543750
You want to tell others to not have kids?

Why would you ever come up with something like that? They are your kids, you have to deal with them

>>87521497
in the original, he was making a swing for his son. in this version, he has no son.

>>87542303
I've heard Ibogaine works for heroin addiction, opioid addiction.

>>87542597

Are you old enough to have seen Married With Chidlren? If you had seen the intro you probably would have been warned.

>>87544463
Many people regret having kids and getting married. I just wondered why you got so upset? Im not the guy who posted anyway.

>>87520497
This. We need black people to replace whites!

>>87520210
Why are people in this thread acting like Marty was right? It's more of Marty's self righteous bullshit

>>87543971

4 billion people in Africa means more Africans suffering. I guess it would also mean more African migrants, but now maybe people realize why castles used to have moats and drawbridges and walls.

>>87544643
This. Marty, like everyone alive, is rationalizing his life/choices.

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everything could be so fuckin different
i wouldnt post here at 5am but sleep with my gf and maybe wife that i took the virgintiy off

i could have been someone but now i am nothing

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>>87544577
Been getting worried about some things

Starting to beleive that people don't want someone like me to reprpduce

>successful
>White male
>We're going to die anyway, I might as well try to enjoy life and enjoy the experiences I can make while traveling across the world


That's kind of my goal, two trips a year
Two countries a year, I wish I had a gf or wife though
It would be fun to travel with someone, and not always be alone on trips

>>87544734
Even people in retirement homes get married.
It's never too late.

>>87544862
>Starting to beleive that people don't want someone like me to reprpduce
That's the truth anon.

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>>87545144
:)