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Let me tell you why it's gonna bomb. >movie is marketed

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Let me tell you why it's gonna bomb.

>movie is marketed for the afro-american audience using the "BLM" narrative and iconography (the average Joe won't be able to identify to the characters)
>Black Panther is unknown in Europe and Asia
>Chinese won't watch it
>it's released in the same fiscal year as Thor 3 and The Avengers 3 (two movies Disney has high hopes for).

My guess is Disney/Marvel don't even believe in the movie. They have integrated its potential loss in their annual budget. They're obviously doing it for political reasons and preemptive damage control.

If the movie tanks (it will) medias will say the audience is racist, but Disney's name will be cleared.
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we get it, you don't like black people
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>>87514811
WE
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Now let me tell you why it's not.
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>>87514908
WUZ
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>>87514897
I'm so sick of this ad hominem claim. It's like saying somebody hates black people because they don't particularly care for fried chicken.
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A movie doesn't have to be successful to be good.
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>>87514811
This movie will likely do really well in the US and some other places, China will not watch this film, so that territory is a lost cause, but if you expect it to do better than the average solo film then you're being naïve, especially if they're heavy handed in their message
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>he still believes capeshit will fail

remember when /tv/ said wonder woman will bomb

yeah I know its TOTALLY different now cause its full of blacks
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>>87514908
>>87514984
this meme needs to die.
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>>87515001
>thinking for a second i'd believe you made this thread to discuss actual concerns over a fucking marvel movie

also your reply was racist
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>>87515060
yeah it actually is different though because this is marvel and wonder woman was #DC #kino #zaddy #SKWAD
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>>87515060
Pretty soon capeshit will be the only thing you'll ever see in the theaters. Action? Gone. Horror? Gone. Romances? Gone. Drama? Gone. Comedies not written by Seth Rogan or Adam Sandler? Gone.
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>>87515051
>China will not watch this film
I don't know about that, for all the racism /tv/ cries about China they still love a film where half the cast is black or mulatto
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any movie like this is doomed to fail because you're insulting anyone who values an intelligent movie -- blacks included. surprisingly people don't like being treated like babies. the demographic who wants films like this has the attention span of a fish and empty wallets.
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>>87515060
This. People here judge films by their RT score and believe that grossing anything less than a billion is a flop.
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>>87515095
Anything is racist in this current climate. Hell, admiring African culture and partaking in certain aspects of it is racist. "Racist" has no real meaning anymore.
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I think it looks cool
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>>87514811
I hope it fails, I've seen every Marvel movie to date and I'm skipping this one. Maybe if it wasn't named after a black supremacist group and featuring WE WUZ horseshit. But no, I'm not watching this one, kiss my ass Marvel knock off the nigger shit.
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>>87514811
Necessary Sacrifice
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If it succeeds then journalists will be all "white people BTFO!" but if it bombs then it will be like "this just shows how prevalent white privilege still is" or whatever. There's no good outcome
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>>87515160
How do people deny white hate? Racism against white people is very real. You would think people would realize that after that autist was kidnapped and tortured by BLM gang members just for being white.
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>>87515102
It's because of cars and action, you think a country where you have to down play black people in posters and trailers are going to like a film of an almost entirely black cast about a culture they have no exposure to, you're having a laugh.
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>>87515123
That's pretty racist and I'm not even black.
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WE
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>>87515240
Whatever. Just don't shit yourself when you see a white girl wearing weave and then be completely fine with a black girl dyeing her hair blonde.
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>>87515235
chinks will watch blue space niggers
chinks will watch it if it has CGI and explosions

I think you are overestimating chinese people and their discrimination towards movies of any kind
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>>87514811
What's so BLM about it?
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>>87515276
discrimination is a poor word, I mean discernment
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>>87514811
Wait a minute, what claims are you making? We were royals you say?
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>>87514811
>Black Panther is unknown in Europe and Asia

that's why they introduced him in civil war, and he was one of the few good things in the movie.

but yes I'm sure you're right, it's going to flop, just like literally who ant-man, and literally who doctor strange, and homecoming everyone is sick of spider-man, and guardians of the galaxy.
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>>87515296
No no no, "we was royals".
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>>87515060
Wonder Woman didn't carry a strong feminist message (despite what feminists said).

Black Panther is obviously BLM : the Movie.
Not sure the audience likes that.
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>>87514811
Why can't they make a black cast movie like Far Cry 2? That unironically is one of my favorite games for some reason

Africa looks pretty comfy
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>>87514811
where's the BBC bulge? what f*cking racists made this?
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>>87515276
See, but Black panther has ACTUAL niggers, not painted people and as far as explosions go, I wouldn't expect much
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>>87514811
>Chinese won't watch it
Why not?
China is currently strip mining the Dark Continent, wouldn't the chinese moviegoer be interested in the exotic jungle people they hear about in the state run media?
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>>87514811
/tv/ is always wrong
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>>87515279
Black Panther is litteraly a KANGZ N SHIEET
All bad guys are white people.
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black people actually pay for movies ironically

one of the few things that's hard to steal unless you know how to work computers or dvd bootlegs
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>>87515348
Fast and the Furious has ACTUAL niggers
Yeah of course thats completely different cause chinks only watch it cause of cars and explosion

and they won't watch this because of special effects and explosiions
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>>87515360
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>>87515199
>Racism against white people is very real.
Sure but for communists it's a welcome vehicle. Remember that institutional socialism didn't work. Now they try a different approach to egalitarianism: try to take down whoever is more successful than anybody else until everyone is the same.

It's almost as if some white people forget about trying to give their own children a headstart in life over the children of other parents.
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>>87515199
*rolls eyes*

ummm no sweetie, by definition, you cant be racist toward white people.
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>>87515371
>All bad guys are white people.

michael b jordan is now a white man, this is some next level mental gymnastics
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>>87515378
>black people actually pay for movies ironically
They go less often to the movies than whites though
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>>87515410
Honestly if they had gone with the non JJ Abrams idea of having Finn be played by a white lead, that still wouldn't have made any difference. Boyega did his best with the role. The shitty pacing and editing is to blame along with the dialogue
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>>87515330
It's called blood diamond.
It has amazing acting and Leo DiCaprio triest to act.
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>>87515427
Are you non-white?
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>>87515438
black people attend movies in droves

there's a reason why that screaming black person in the horror movie theater yelling at the white girls to not go in the door exist
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>>87514984
KANGZ
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>>87515560
>People thinks it racist to find this fucking ridiculous
All cultures are of equal worth
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what is his name again?
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>>87515601
oh god what the fuck
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I am going to watch it just to piss u off retard
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>>87515116
>less than a billion is a flop.
that is literally what a flop is for Marvel/DC/Disney
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>>87515601
is this real?
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>>87515601
This is the most powerful villain in the MCU
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>>87515601
he shouldn't be wearing a suit
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>>87515823
https://youtu.be/dxWvtMOGAhw?t=1m21s
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>>87515601
Sony™.
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>>87514811
Anyone want some free red pills? OP already had one it seems, anone else?
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>>87515123
Do you think Black people are genetically inferior to whites?
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>>87515601
Suits are cultural appropriation, how dare they
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>>87515999
Wh*tes are pathetic
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>>87516003
Yup
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>>87516003
It has nothing to do with "thinking". Their inferiority is scientifically proven. Saying they are inferior = stating objective, scientific facts.
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>>87515103
>people don't like being treated like babies
>15 Marvel capeshit movies, with another 5 realesed in 2018 and 19
*inhales*
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>>87516049
>>87516058
There you go. That's the definition of racism. So don't get mad that you're called racist.
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>>87516033
White americans*

don't lump me in with those mixed race mongrels
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>>87514811
WE
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>>87516033
r/Beholdthemasterrace represent
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>>87514811

Looks like an SNL sketch... Of course this will bomb, it ONLY appeals to a black audience, even the Madea movies had broader appeal.

Movies with a 100% black target audience can do well with a small budget, this is not the case here. Also the setting is absolutely insane, some fantasy african nation with blacks living in supertechnology... 99% of people would straight up believe in Valhalla before that.
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>>87514897
>you don't like black people
You make it sound like that's a bad thing.
No one likes black people, not even other minorities.
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>>87516093
>lotters
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>>87516074
Don't get me wrong. I don't dislike them just because they are inferior. They should be treated as equals. Being offensive towards POC is the same as bullying that mentally handicapped child back at school. It's not a nice thing to do. Hating on black people is not a nice thing to do. So we treat them with respect and friendlyness -so we can feel better about ourselves.
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>>87516094
>implying social justice cucks won't fill 80% of the seats
This will at least break even, cf. Wonder Womyn
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>average wonder woman movie held up by feminists
>implying kino black panther movie wont be held up by the same crowd
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>>87515001
This is the most retarded thing I've read today, thanks for the laugh
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>>87516093
>lotters
>shoot
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>>87515899
This looks fucking good and I hate MCU
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>>87516093

>LOTTERS
>L O T T E R S
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>>87515796

Then the MCU is a flop machine. Get your head out of your ass
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>>87515899
>actual adventure movie
>no quips
>great visuals, not the usual grey marvel shite
I'm definitely gonna watch this
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>>87515324
>Black Panther is obviously BLM : the Movie.
I've only seen the trailer and it doesn't look like it, why do you think so?
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>>87515899
That actually looks pretty good for MCU standards.
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I liked Black Panther in the Captain America movie
Question for comic book fans though:
Does he have powers? He was keeping pace with the Avengers and running through traffic with Cap as though he did.
What's the deal?
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>>87516241
>WEWUZ: The Movie
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>>87516270
Through the consumption of a special heart shaped herb he gains superhuman physical abilities.
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>>87516284
not a history film lad
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>>87516284
>fictional nation
>empowering blacks
I don't think so Tim
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>>87516270
he roids up on some magical jungle herbs that give him increased strength, speed and senses, then his suit is vibranium high tech.
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>>87516299
kek superheroes are honestly retarded
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>>87516166
>>87516213
>>87516268
Damn you shills are desperate as fuck
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>>87516302
>>87516306
>it has to be a (((historical movie))) to be interpreted this way by niggers
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>>87516284
Yeah, a functional and advanced black nation is legitimately straining my suspension of disbelief.
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>>87516343
This. Those libtards can shill as much as they want but they won't make me watch a movie literally about niggers.
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>>87516354
It was written in the fucking 70s dude, it was clearly exoticism like Coming to America
Black Americans think Africans are uncivilized compared to them.
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>>87516354
>movie makes blacks think africa is literally heaven
why are you even complaining if you think they're that stupid
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>>87516393
It won't make them go back.
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>>87516404
you never know

desu I miss colonialism and the movie gave me some nice exotica vibes, with lots of unconsiously racist stereotypes, non-existent civilisations and some great visuals. That being said I'll stream it, I'll never support capeshit
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>>87516360
There are movies about aliens, dragons, witches, magic, midget warriors with their own language but black civilization is too much for you?
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>>87516465
black people existing is too much for them.
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>>87516465
>aliens
Believable
>dragons, witches, magic
Classical mythology, you don't have to strain your suspension of disbelief to enjoy these things
>midget warriors with their own language
Real
>black civilization
Not possible

>>87516484
This too. I go to the movies to forget about the worlds problems, not to be constantly reminded that blacks exist.
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>>87516465
That's because no one has had real life experience with aliens, dragons, witches, magic or midget warriors yet.
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>>87516528
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mali_Empire
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Protip: Disney knows it will fail.

It's a loss leader. They are simply releasing it for the good PR. Thor and Avengers will make up for the losses.
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You guys talk about sjws but you're triggered about a fiction work. Just don't fucking watch it.
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>>87516567
I seriously hope it won't fail, it looks great and it brings the retard out of retarded people
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>>87516561
>Much of the recorded information about the Mali Empire comes from 14th century North African Arab historian Ibn Khaldun, 14th century Moroccan traveller Ibn Battuta and 16th century Moroccan traveller Leo Africanus. The other major source of information is Mandinka oral tradition, through storytellers known as griots.

So a tiny kingdom in West Africa that was barely known to the world before it collapsed in the 1600s is a functional black society?
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>>87516561
> Mansa Musa, or Musa I of Mali is considered to be the richest man ever with his wealth at $400 billion (at the time of his death in 1331).[38] Musa was the tenth emperor of the Mali Empire, one of the prosperous Sahelian kingdoms that developed along the Saharan slave trade routes in the later medieval period. Mansa Musa made his fortune by exploiting his country’s salt and gold production.[3][39][40] Musa is said to have brought several tonnes of gold to Mecca when he made a pilgrimage there in 1324. Reported as being inconceivably rich by contemporaries, "There’s really no way to put an accurate number on his wealth."[41]
>Musa made his pilgrimage between 1324–1325
> Musa gave the gold to the poor he met along his route
>But Musa's generous actions inadvertently devastated the economy of the regions through which he passed. In the cities of Cairo, Medina, and Mecca, the sudden influx of gold devalued the metal for the next decade. Prices on goods and wares greatly inflated. To rectify the gold market, on his way back from Mecca, Musa borrowed all the gold he could carry from money-lenders in Cairo, at high interest. This is the only time recorded in history that one man directly controlled the price of gold in the Mediterranean
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>>87516656
>quoting a socialist at the end of your meme to prove your point
lmao
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>>87516656
America was a mistake.
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>>87515415
But commies hate socialism and identity politics
And by identity politics I mean "anything other than your relative wealth"
It's ALL about class and money to the pinkos
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>>87515385
>Fast and the Furious has ACTUAL niggers
Yeah 1 or 2, not fucking hundreds
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>>87516656
>burgers
yey
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>>87516656
I really like the idea of embracing the political fear narratives of your opponents and throwing it back into their faces. Got any more examples of it?
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>>87516609
>just accept cultural marxism already!
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This is going to be just like Feminist Ghostbusters. They set up the situation so they "win" either way

- If Black Panther succeeds, then they get to dance around about how fantastic movies about blacks are, and how more like this need to be made, and how we need to have more black superheroes or whatever

-If Black Panther fails, then they just get to write off its failure as "fukken racist whiteys don't want to see movies with POCs!!!", cause an SJW shitstorm over that, and use it to say we need to force more diversity in movies anyway to "counteract white racism" or whatever
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>>87516651
Wow, all of that wealth and he couldn't secure a lasting legacy.

Typical black, to be honest.
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>>87516743
It's movie, bro. People should have the right to write whatever the fuck they want to and cast whoever the fuck they want to. You're not forced to watch it.
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>>87516681
weow laddie
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>>87516757
You couldn't even acquire his wealth to even attempt to build a legacy.
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>>87516771
>every other movie has to adhere to diversity quotas though :^)
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>>87515089
it'll die when people stop pretending that africa has ever not been a hell hole
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>>87516681
He was a full blown commie.
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>>87514811
The Color Purple..........with a cape
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>>87516747
Anon, we get it. A girl in high school you had a crush on but never talked to ended up dating a black guy, and you've been holding a grudge ever since. Just get over it already.
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>>87516799
I'm pretty sure that, as long as we stop importing subhumans by the boatload, my kingdom won't turn into the worst shithole in the world generations from now.
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>>87516825
Yes, I said that
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>>87515471
it also has djimson honsou literally tell dicaprio "maybe we were better off when da white man ruled..." blood diamond is redpilled af
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>>87516809
We live in a complex world. There are reason Africa is the way it is,but people only want to make it about race.
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>>87514811

I was listening to the Lion King score recently.

Got me thinking about the use of cRap music in BP's trailer.

Disney's brand of progressivism is so token and barefaced I can't help but think of it as its own sort of racism.
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>>87516854
DAS RITE WHYTE BOIS!!!! WE TAKKEN YO WIMMINZ N SHEEEEEEEIT
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>>87516093
You just know these guys were itching for an opportunity to don their faggy uniforms and play militia for a day. Why are Americans so childish?
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>>87515254
>90% the same
>diverse
These people are idiots, obviously, but this never fails to make me laugh.
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>>87516096

I thought pajeet men were the most disliked minority because of their creepy nature.
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>>87516890
Wow, check out big-brained anon over here. "It's complex" hmm really made me think.

You're right. Africa is the cause. Africa provided a certain constellation of evolutionary incentives and disincentives that resulted in blacks evolving the way they did.
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>>87514811
>china wont watch this film because "blacks"

The NBA's second largest market is china. You are a retard.
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>>87515601
ffpppfllllt
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>>87516771

>You're not forced to watch it.

Kek, says the person who will cry 'racism' when the movie bombs
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>>87516943
You say that blacks are inferior because they were late to the civilization game but Whites didn't start civilization (I'm not saying it was blacks) and Germans were tribes when Roman were conquering the world. At the time you would be saying that Germans are inferior.
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>>87516940

They're are the most disliked in the dating scene. They're are overall one of the more successful and docile minorities anywhere they go.
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>>87515899

It unexpectedly looks alright.
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>>87514936
tpbp
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>>87516957
>>87515410
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>>87517000
>kek i'll just make shit up and pretend that's an argument
I don't give a fuck if it bombs or not
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>>87516609
Did you got triggered, snowflake, because we see BLM: The Movie for what it is? Well, I'm sorry but we aren't going to stop telling it as it is just because it hurts your feelings.
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Let me tell you why it's gonna be a huge success

>some retard on /tv/ said it was gonna bomb and /tv/ is always wrong
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>>87516868
>my kingdom

You live at your parents house and dont even pay taxes. There is no "your kingdom"
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>>87517051
You're the one triggered. It's funny that you can't see it lmao
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>>87515001
>actually likes black people
Are you retarded or something? Either way, the second you go on the defensive, all you're gonna do is lose the debate. They will just call you racist regardless, because it's a very arbitrary term, created explicitely to silence political opposition.
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>>87514897
Nobody does

and they don't like you either.
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>>87517066
Stop projecting.
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>>87517066
I pay more in taxes than you make in a year.
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>>87517051
wow ur awake please teach me your ways master, how have you reached enlightment?
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>>87517051
B-but niggers lives do matter
t. cuck
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>>87517039
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>>87517002
>Roman were conquering the world
Romans* were white (Caucasian). A white person with a tan is still white. Everyone, except larping identitarians, knows this.
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>>87517088
Im richer than you. 1v1 me IRL faggot
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>>87517111
>larping identitarians
unfortunately they're the majority
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>>87517111
way to miss the point. A group of whites were doing that while another was still living like tribal people. Romans didn't consider Germans their equal. I didn't say Romans aren't white.
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>>87517091
>Movies about two black guys fighting each other
>BLM narrative

He's right you know. You guys a huge snow flakes who are bitching for no real reason.
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>>87514811
Lemme tell you why it's gonna make bank

>white women love the BBC
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>>87516747
this is true
no matter if it succeeds or flops.
it will be forced.

i personally don't give a damn about the black panther character. but i'll probaly go see the movie
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>>87514936
This. Arguing this shit on /tv/ is a lost cause because this whole entire board is filled with alt-right racist types who have no idea what they're talking about anyway.
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>>87517129
>I didn't say Romans aren't white.
You heavily implied it and are now, clumsily, trying to shift the argument in a different direction.
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>>87517002
It's not a question of civilization Y/N. It's an issue of evolution. Blacks for 10s of thousands of years separated from everyone else in sub-saharan africa, which provided a completely different set of natural selection pressures.

I don't like to use the word "inferior" because that implies there's some sort of universal concept of what is "best". You could say cockroaches are superior, because there are billions of them alive, and they are successful. My point is that blacks evolved to fit what works in sub-saharan africa. Other races, such as whites, evolved to deal with other climates that forced innovation. And this isn't just cultural. It's happened over such a long time that it's affected evolution.
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>>87517051
>OMG how dare they make a movie that goes against my beliefs?
>Something has do be done about this.
>Why do they think they can write whatever they wish like that? I have to expose them.
>I can't just not watch it. I have to be outraged by it
>but I'm not triggered about this, I swear.
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>>87517176
The argument is still the same. At the time Romans were conquering the worlds Germans still lived like tribal people. If you lived at the time you would say Germans are inferior people just like you do with Africans.
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When are we going to see and Asian main character in one of these huh? I'm so damn sick of all these whites and blacks taking the spotlight. Doesn't Hollywood want my money too??!
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>>87515199
Progressives are hateful people, just like everyone. Their self-righteous beliefs prevent them from being openly hateful so they use tactics (eg: "white privilege") to justify treating whites to a lower standard.
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>>87517190
Did I hurt your feelings, snowflake? You can whine as much as you want but Niggers Lives Matter: The Movie still will be a huge flop.
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I can't wait to read the BBC Pidgin review of this movie kek
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>>87515240
>I'm not even black
I can tell by your perpetual offendedness.
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>>87516928
>protecting your property is childish
t. sheltered commie
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>>87517233
You're the one with hurt feelings because they made a movie you don't agree with. I'll probably not even watch this shit movie. I was saying people like you talk about snowflakes and getting triggered and you're triggered yourself right now.
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I'm honestly tired of this race bullshit, it's everywhere. It's time to stop
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>>87517233
Definitely a troll or over 45. Nobody still actually uses snowflake as an insult.
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>>87517224

You know it doesn't help white people when you dress up and act like nazi's.
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>>87517234
The irony is that it could be a great movie, but no one here will ever admit it because of the muh racist narrative 4 chan has.
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>>87517287
Just stop being american it's fucking hilarious to the rest of the world lol, be like an observer or something
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>>87517337
>capeshit with blacks
>great

No.
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>>87517210
You realize how disingenuous it is to compare european ethnicities to the difference between whites and blacks?

It's like equivocating the distance between two houses in a neighborhood to the distance from the neighborhood to china.
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>>87517190

>OMG how dare they make a movie that goes against my beliefs?

Haha, yeah it's not as if the sjw's complaining about lack of movies and tv shows focused on their particular minority of choice and whitewashing ad nauseum....

Keep peddling your bullshit
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>>87517287
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY8_7LWDx0w
It all just white noise to me now. Does anyone really pay attention to it anymore?
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>>87517355
Thanks for proving my point.
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>>87516528
>midget warriors with their own language
>Real

What?
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>>87517373
Yeah I'm getting really sleepy, perhaps we should all take a nice long nap?
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>>87517395
Pygmies. I'd watch a movie about them.
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>>87517364
I don't see how it's disingenuous when Romans themselves called them barbarians and uncivilized. What was making them stay tribal at the time if all whites are equal?
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>>87517350
AHAH luckily I'm not American, I'll probably never live in one of the most creative and important countries in the world, I'll never get to experience the life in a comfy house in new england

fucking burgers haha they get shot a lot right
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>>87517369
>being this assblasted by a childrens comic book movie

Get a hobby, faggot
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>>87514811
No
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>>87517426
>Pygmies. I'd watch a movie about them.
I got you covered senpai:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B4BpJK1Mko
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>>87517285
I'm actually glad they made this movie. When it eventually flops niggers will realize we're still in charge of this country.
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>>87517364
>how disingenuous it is to compare european ethnicities to the difference between whites and blacks
literally what most white nationalists do, and if they don't it's part of their future plans
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>>87517426
Oh those ok.
Pretty sure there's nothing much interesting about them.
Their entire culture relies on chewing leaves and chilling.
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>>87517479
>When it eventually flops niggers will realize we're still in charge of this country.
IT'S A SHIT CAPESHIT MOVIE YOU RETARD STOP PROJECTING POLITICS EVERYWHERE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Jesus Christ, dudes. Quit getting this mad over a movie where a black guy dresses up as a kitty cat.
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I'd rather have more all-black flicks like black panther and straight outa compton than any more casting of blacks as formerly white characters and black male/white female "romantic" comedies.
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>>87517457

>being this assblasted by a childrens comic book movie

Apt description of all sjw's and their reactions to casting in superhero movies, this whole thing was started by sjw/left crazies.
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>>87517312
Except I don't nor do hundreds of millions of white Americans. People saw the neo nazis and KKK as dying losers but it's no longer in the interest of the media to keep them out of the spotlight, now they are being represented as the no. 1 threat despite being 80% LARPing kiddies.
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>>87517479
It's a marvel movie anon it isn't going to flop.
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>>87517508
Yeah... Hollywood blockbusters are - and always have been - carrying strong ideology messages.
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>>87517590
>if it flops whites are still in charge of the country
you took it 500000 steps beyond any kind of humour/logic

same for WE WUZ fags
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I don't understand the 'disney's name will be cleared' part. Nobody with a head on his shoulder thinks that they're immaculate. Same think for WB.

If you actually thing every movie produced by any company is good then you're an idiot.
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>>87514811
Agreed desu
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>>87517589
ITS GOING TO FUCKING FLOP. I won't accept it if it doesn't. I won't permit it. We need a victory for once.
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>>87517514

You (samefag) seem to be the only one mad, the rest of us just points out that an all black cast set in a fantasy civilization will not be interesting for the majority of white people, just like black people are unlikely to be the target audience for Lord of the Rings of similar.

Even less so with the whole fatigue of race politics inserted into movies of the past years.
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>>87517559
> People saw the neo nazis and KKK

You must be living under a rock not to know that the alt-right LARP as nazis now in every protest they go to. When you share the same beliefs as them. We get to label you as a nazi.
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>>87514811
Disney doesn't ever call anyone racist or blame anyone for loss of sales. The individual directors or actors often do, but Disney as a company doesn't bother to handwave anything, and they know perfectly well that it would only sour their wholesome and family-focused reputation to ever turn against any of their audiences. Disney had a hundred year snowball of a reputation of just being pleasant and making kind media, they never get put on the defensive by anyone, least of all tabloids who beg them to make an excuse for a project not meeting expectations (black panther will probably meet expectations).
Tl;dr Disney doesn't call people racists
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fucking blacks
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>>87517635
I'm not the first guy you responded to and I don't think it will flop.
I'm just saying don't be naive.

Those blockbusters are actually the most dangerous tool of propaganda.
They look very innocent but they're filled with ideology.
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>>87517655
>only quotes one post
>samefag
???
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>>87517655
>just like black people are unlikely to be the target audience for Lord of the Rings
LMAO. This is so true. I've never met a nigger who likes LOTR. They're too uncivilized to understand white people cinema.
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>>87517683
>nazi nazi nazi
You are blunting your blade, Moshe.
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>>87514908
KANGZ
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>>87517691
but as >>87517655 pointed out, normal people are getting tired of racebaiting. Even Marvel knows it and for the first time one of their racebait movies doesn't rely entirely on the cast being black, seems like they put some actual effort into making this movie and it stands out in comparison to other marvel flicks.
Basically only ideology talibans are still biting the racebait, and they're destined to decrease in number sooner than we think
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>>87514811
>the average Joe won't be able to identify to the characters

As opposed to a tall woman fighting germans in WW1?

Most people watch movies for escapism and as long as there is action and the marvel logo is slapped on it, it will be massively profitable regardless of your feelings. People don't go watch Denzel or Vin Diesel movies for the color of their skin.
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>>87515601
Just like my NatGeo magazines
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>>87515103
What's babyish about this? It'll be pulpy sure but I don't think it talks down to the audience. These movies and their audiences know they're cartoonish.
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Marvel is trash. But after 16 movies and not even one flop it's retarded to claim that the next one is going to be any different. People eat this trash with a smile on their faces.
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>more fucking superhero nonsense
The trick is not to care about garbage
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>>87516957
That's because of the Asian players like Yao Ming and Jeremy Lin
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>>87517652
It won't. There's no way this, which looks decent, will flop when even absolute garbage like Thor: The Dark World didn't.
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>>87514811
>"BLM" narrative

What kind of Drugs you smoking this time Rush?
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The trailer is nice. I don't think it'll flop.
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>>87514811
Yeah what's the BLM narrative? Nobody likes or talks about BLM except on tumblr. Everyone knows it was a bad race riot.
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>>87518134
>Black Panter looks decent
>Thor: The Dark World absolute garbage
t. nigger
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>>87514811
>>movie is marketed for the afro-american audience using the "BLM" narrative and iconography (the average Joe won't be able to identify to the characters)
Where stupid /pol/tard ?
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>>87518247
t. absolute pleb who watches capeshit
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>>87518239
They were invited to the white house and were fawned over by every media outlet, you dishonest cunt.
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>>87518270
Where do you think you are?
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>>87515601
>>87515601
*flaps lip* HOL' UP
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>>87518247
>Thor
>literally dead Marvel colours all the way through
no thank you
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What's the budget of this movie? The trailer looked PS2 videogame cutscenes and there aren't any a-listers in this film.
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>>87518320
two bikes and a bucket of chikken mufugga
Yee we keepin it real 4 lyf
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>>87515601
No frickin way.
The rarest and most powerful superhero, plate in lip man
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>>87515533
rub a dub dub
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>>87516651
>Richest black in history
>still destroys local economy
>still becomes loaded with debts
Go figure.
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>>87516868
2 good sized Molotov cocktails and that place would be burning for years.
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>>87515601
I like it, but I thought only women wore the plates?
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>>87514811
meh I think it will do decently in burgerland.
But it depends on how many burgers will still be caring about capeshit by the time of its release.
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>>87515199

Although there is genuine bigotry and hatred againts white people, you need to look further.

This whole postmodern identity politics that has poisoned much of the left ultimately is what all postmodern philosophy is: incoherent and internally contradictory:

All the Grand Narratives are dead, and reality will forever elude us, there is no meaning, no beauty, there is only power. All hierarchy is unjust, all distinctions are oppressive, all qualifiers are some form of 'ist'. Just ignore that this in itself is a Grand Narrative, and that all the 'deconstruction' of 'systemic racism/sexism/whatever-ism' will just lead to new status-quos, new hierarchies, and new power structures. Logic doesn't matter because logic itself is an oppressive construct of the cis-hetero-whitesupremacist-colonialist-capitalist-imperialist-ecocidal-patriarchy.

Look at how 'PoC' or other types of minorities are treated when they don't bow down to this ideology. The words 'Coon' and 'Bounty' and 'Twinky' are used without any self awareness. Liberal, reformist, or ex-muslims are treated as traitors and 'native informants' when they don't act like a stereotypical angry muslim. Although the word 'anti-semitism' is thrown around non-stop (e.g. to label Trump) Jews are often described in terms that would make / pol/ proud, but they hide it behind 'zionism' or accuse jews of having 'white passing privilege'. Despite the talk of 'PoC' as united against whites, asian-americans where shut down at BLM college events. Now relatively light-skinned black people are being scrutinized as not oppressed enough. White cis-gays have lost oppression status.

The downward spiral will not stop, and it will reinvent itself unless the core of it is attacked, i.e. the philosophy behind ID politics and postmodernism and how and why it fused with progressivism and marxism.

Whining about 'white hate' won't work, because they see it as evidence for their stance.
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>>87515102
China loves the cars, not the actors. My Chinese friends say it would be better if one of the many negroes died instead of Han
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>>87515095
Shut your fucking reddit mouth
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>>87516895
>cRap music
Are you fifteen?
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>>87514811
Its a shame it will flop cause Black Panther is anvery awesome character. Thank you SJWs
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>>87518792
It's fascinating how you discovered the left's claim to power all on your own, but how you then manage to misinterpret it in such a radical way.
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>diversity is the selling point

It is code for the film will be bad
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>>87518792
I kind of see where you're coming from, but you don't understand postmodernism.
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>>87518829

I'd probably like rap music if I were 15, tbqh

But really it's shit
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>>87518829
what do you listen to anon?
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>>87515199
Do you think this was a racist attack or just a straight robbery?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CslmX73s0U
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>>87519024
oldskool uk breakbeat hardcore
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>>87516936
>These people are idiots
Nah m8... you're the idiot. Diversity = less White people. ALWAYS.
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I hope it does well and inspires more studios to make more historicals set in Africa instead of shamelessly inserting black people into European history
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>>87519086
>less White people. ALWAYS
I don't see how that's bad.
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>>87518792
>incoherent and internally contradictory
You know this guy?
He has some very interesting ideas about internal contradiction. And he is anything but "postmodern".
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>>87514811

reviews will be inflated to give it a good score, people will be accused of racism for not liking it. I honestly hope this is the end of capeshit
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>>87514811
WTF am I looking at?
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It is going to fail because it has niggers as the main protagonist and the international market(China, India) is not interested in niggers.
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>>87519132
Yous be lookin ats how it was in afrika befo the whiteys took away our special brain powers and enslaved the Afrikan queens.

Yous be lookin ats how it could be in afrika if dem whites people stopped o-pressn all of the meloniated folks and let us do our thang.
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>>87516714
>It's ALL about class and money to the pinkos

To traditional Communists, yes, not the modern general left and not even all of the left of the past.

Ideologies evolve over time. Conservatism/being right wing doesn't generally refer anymore to maintaining Monarchies and Theocracies (although some in the US might like the latter).

Also, Socialism is the final state Communists (of the traditional Marxist variety) aimed for: a classless, stateless, governmentless social order. If by 'socialism' you mean social-democracy, then yes, commies do hate that, because Social-Democrats just 'reform Capitalism, and delay the glorious proletarian revolution because those pesky proles won't riot when they don't suffer enough'. (You see, improving the average wellfare and condition of the proletariat is only noble if it's done by commies, but evil manipulation when done through capitalism, because the latter keeps the proletariat from reaching the bliss of Utopia fairyland. This is why much of the left has shifted focus from improving the lives of the poor to achieving 'equality', since, despite the many problems with capitalism, it has improved the standard of living of the underclasses immensely, even in third world shitholes.)
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>>87515601

If this movie has a scene where someone tortures this guy by repalcing his lipdisk with a fidgetspinner I will never doubt our Disney overlords ever again.
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>>87514811
>tfw black

I promised myself to never watch this film ever


sick of this kangz shit, I have family in africa and theres a fucking reason my father left in the first place


Give me Blade, Ghostdawg, Jackie Brown or that nigga from Oceans 11 over this faggot anyday
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>>87519350
Where from in Africa?
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>>87515371
So you know nothing about the character then? And the villain is actually a black guy
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>>87517731
I know a few blacks that enjoyed Tolkien, but most of the movies were shit
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>>87519357
Zambia

never been though
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>Let me tell you why it's gonna bomb.

And when this makes a billion dollars you retards will flood the board with Jew memes, screencaps of 4 SJW twitter posts and cell phone pics of toy shelves as evidence that you're right because it's impossible that everyone else isn't a bitter, racist, shut-in that blames the world for not getting their own shit together like you.
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>>87516096
Why does everyone copy them? Especially white people.
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miss me yet?
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>>87519517
Scratch that. Hispanics the most, then whites.
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>>87514811
It's a Nov release, it's not suppose to be a block buster. It will make more than it's production costs. The aesthetics of it looks awesome so it's already gotten peoples attention. BP is one of the most famous Avengers after Cap, Iron, Hulk, & Thor. Even then it's why they revealed him in Civil War. The movie will do fine and we'll get a sequel.

Plus it's fucking CAT MAN. That is going to pull in extra people. "OMG A CAT SUPERHERO FINALLY!".
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>>87514811
Times /tv/ has been right:
>Literally once, Ghostbusters.

Times /tv/ has been wrong:
>Every other fucking time.

I wonder what will happen this time
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>>87519350
You don't get it because you're not African American
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>>87519594
a lot normies agreed with /tv/ in that instance on ghostbusters though

just like the emoji movie
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>>87518118
ok
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>>87515051
>>87515102
China loves Blade. I don't see any reason why they'd dislike this because a black hero.
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>>87514811
They're all white-washed blacks.
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>>87515427
Shitty bait
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>>87518879

Call it the 'lefts will to power' and the nod to Nietzche is complete. Please forgive me for stating as fact, instead of properly arguing. There is only so much time to spend in a Capeshit thread. If you want, please elaborate.

>>87518969
Please elaborate. Does postmodernism understand postmodernism? And, even if I'm being purposefully ungenerous towards postmodernism, I am willing to defend that my description quite accurately describes how it ends up in mainstream culture.

>>87519113

Yes, postmodernism build on elements of Hegel and went nuts with it. Just as all philosophies build on/react to ideas before them. Nietzche has both inspired National Socialism and, through a bunch of intermediates, leftwing postmodernism. (Wheter that influence is based on misinterpreting Nietzche is another discussion entirely). The little I know of Hegel makes me think I wouldn't be a big fan of him, but I know too little about him to be sure. Unfortunately it's impossible to get a truly indepth knowledge of philosophy as a whole, because there is only so much time in ones life.
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>>87515060
Wonder Woman did bomb, though.
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>>87515410
Those fuckers removed Chewie! THEY'RE RACIST AGAINST WOOKIES!
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>>87519344
>fidgetspinner lipdisks
Dude.
Dude.
DUDE.
We should make this into a trending meme.
See if we can get some of those body modification idiots to actually do it.
Start with photoshops of fidgetspinner lipdisks and earrings!
Spread the images and wait until some jackass actually does it to be trendy.
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>>87519517
>implying they have ever invented ANYTHING worthwhile
>>
It comes out in February. What did they mean by this?
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>>87519729
>number 1 movie of the summer
>bombed
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>>87516960
underrrated
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>>87519862
It barely made back its budget, even with all the feminist shilling and bought reviews.
Was a shit movie, and DC is dead.
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>>87519813
Everyone still copies them in fashion/music/slang
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>>87519699
Because they talk coherently and do productive things?
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>>87514811
Pol is too obsessed with race.

Fuck off
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>>87519105
r u white?
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>>87519928
>broke even
$800 mil on a maximum budget of 300? Ok.

I agree that it was shit and you have to be alive at some point to be dead. But it was a success financially. Can't deny that.
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>>87514811
Blacks can't afford movie tickets and that's their main demographic.
Doomed to fail.
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>>87520019
>doy, lol, what it sez on wikipedia duz men wot dollaz it kost to mek
Wikipedia doesn't factor in marketing budget, you fucking retard.
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>>87519969

What's alternative? Taking responsibility for yourself and learning from mistakes and growing and becoming a better person?

BWAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA

Nah m8. It's the jews and the niggers and the muslims fault.
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>>87520037
does it cost 9999$?
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>>87520072
I didn't use Wikipedia to get my numbers faggot lmao. The production budget was 150, notice how I said 300. Taking well into account the marketing.

Are you mad girls won't touch your weewee
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>>87520106
Yeah, why can't the world set racism aside and unite against their true enemy, the whites?
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>>87519931
>nigger music, clothes, slang
>implying ANY of those are worthwhile

>Everyone still copies them in fashion/music/slang
>Everyone
Oh anon...
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>>87514897
Not even black people truly like black people.
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>>87514811
What's sad is you actually believe the industry is that calculated. They're idiots.
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>>87520178

Point prove I think.
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>>87520171
EEEEEEYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSsSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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>>87520171
>ugh, doy, dum dum I dun took da number on da wikipedia and did da calkulator and dat mek new number duz me smart
Fucking DC shills. When will they learn?
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>>87520178
jews aren't white
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>>87520288
enjoy your autism
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>>87516854
Stop asserting your sexual fantasy onto others
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So under what type of fantasy are blacks allowed to play in? I don't why this makes people irate. Everyone knows that there's never been a place like this. Wakanda has always been a lost world type of story with a black protagonist. A sort of reverse "King Solomon's Mines, " if you will. I don't really dig The Black Power marketing, but it is what it is.
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>>87520296
Oy vey, only when it's convenient, goy.
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>>87515279
What is BLM? Black Letter Media? Mike and Jay-Z
>>
The people who are stupid enough to think this will bomb are the same people stupid enough to enjoy capeshit
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>>87519723
>will to power
No, I'll stick to "claim", because the unity of conflicting ideas in the discourse is the mean by which left gains political power. In the words of Lenin himself: "In brief, dialectics can be defined as the doctrine of the unity of opposites. This embodies the essence of dialectics, but it requires explanations and development." "Explanations and development" being further discussion.

Anything that isn't too far off is shamelessly assimilated into the great leftist discourse, while other things are discarded, this happens constantly. That way we can observe a ever-present political shift towards the left in our system.

The leftist creed, after all is "no enemies to the left, no friends to the right", you can see this even within the left. The example you brought up with the Communists and Identity Politics shows this nicely. The communists eschew identity politics as meaningless drivel, while the adherents of identity politics do not oppose communist ideologies.

The nod to Nietzsche is in wording only, my point doesn't really have anything to do with the idea that the left is inherently bound to attempting to reach a position of power (more so than any other set of ideologies), only that they have a concrete way of doing so (as opposed to all the others).
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>>87517449

>Creative
>Important

>Implying America isn't a third world tier shithole that outside of the NYC and LA areas isn't a giant John Brunneresque police state where rotting third world infastructure, endemic obesity, substandard education, and a collapsed job market doesn't combine to create hell on earth


I'd rather live in Sri Lanka than America. At least Sri Lankans are real people and not useless consuming automatons powered by pepsi and fattening poison food
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>>87520178
Get a good job and career. Improve yourself. Stop obsessing.

No one is out to get you. More like political figure use racism and race baiting to ensure their reelection.

Stop falling for it

Bye
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>>87517369

So, because SJW's are absolute morons following a totalitarian ideology which entails taking popculture shlock super serial means you have to do the same but from the other side of the identitarian coin?

And if people don't give a shit, or even think this movie might be watchable that means they are SJW snowflakes?

Are you a perfect troll or an absolute and utter mongoloid?
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>>87520296
Not in Trump's Amerikkka.
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>>87515279

BLM is the new buzword for fatass american white trash to still pretend the cops in their country aren't a bunch of overtly tyrannical small dicked losers that kit themselves out in military hear and shoot first because of their cowardly incompetance
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>>87514811
it's gunna flop cuz 99% of the west are fukken racists, fuccboi
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>>87520619
>America
>Third world

We have military bases in your country, cuck. Keep sucking Uncle Sams fat cock.
>>
How will the narrative be spun if Marvel makes a kickass movie with Black Panther, but it doesn't rake in the numbers to make it a success? Who will be at fault then?
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>>87521428
The free market.

#fuckcapitalism
>>
It's true that there has always beem a powerful strand of propaganda skills within the left with the aim of talking over the contradictions. It's this which Orwell satirized so well in 1984 (even though he was a democratic socialist himself). But this double think, to me, appears to be rationalized as 'the ends justify the means', and the end was at least somewhat defined (Socialism). The underlying worldview still implied something like universal truth and objectivity.

When the marxist revolutions didn't come, or when they did and the results where authoritarian nightmares, the focus of the left changed. It moved from organizing the working class to elitist vanguards largely in academica, where marxist ideas fused with postmodern ideas. (I realize the vanguard idea goes back further). This fusion undermined a coherent endgoal, and respect for objectivity and universalism. This change is what terrifies me, since it creates an Orwellian nightmare on steroids.

Where I disagree with you is that incoherence is the core strategy of the entire left, and "no enemies to the left" is just nonsense. Purity testing is rampant within modern SJW's and Commies and Social Democrats hated eachother at least as much as they hated Nazis (after WW2 there is a trend of romanticizing far left/commie imagery within the larger left, I'll give you that). If you consider social-liberals/anti-pomo social democrats to be left, which I do, some of them (e.g. myself) loathe SJW's. And I prefer some on the right over many of the left.

Also, you can just as well claim that 'the right' assimilated many contradictory things in 'its' great discourse. Where Liberalism and Modernism where once that which the right fought against (in favor of monarchism and theocracy), 'it' has embraced free markets, civil rights, individualism, democracy etc.

>The example you brought up with the Communists and Identity Politics shows this nicely.

Are you referring to >>87516714? That wasn't me. (The reply is.)
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This >>87521587 was a reply to

>>87520543
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>>87517478
Is this the new Apichatpong Weerasethakul?
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>>87515601
MW NWM SH WGWMB
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>>87514811
It'll be marketed different in China. They'll spin it in a way akin to some 70s disco blacks. Was 70s Afro aesthetic blackness the best period for nogs on tv?
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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