The Orville Review: Seth MacFarlane's Somber Sci-Fi Dud

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>>87356964
Ah, man I actually had a little bit of hope for this one.

I guess science-fiction is done guys.

>>87356964
>tvline.com
Literally who

>>87356964
Not even slightly, MacFarlane is way too far up his own ass to produce anything other than shit

>>87356964
Did they watch the whole season or just one episode

>>87357071
I'm not sure if it was the whole season but the reviewer does mention things that happen in episode 2 and 3 so at least that far.

>>87356964
>expects a comedy
>admits it's not a comedy early in the review
>continues to review it as if it's a comedy

>>87357185
This is just "House isn't funny" all over again

>>87357185
Because they keep making shitty jokes that ruin the atmosphere.
>serious scene serious scene PEE PEE POO POO HA HA HA serious scene serious scene serious scene

>>87357185
It's not a comedy?

>>87357185
They sure marketed it as one....

>>87357071
The first three episodes were put out for reviews.

This actually made me a little more optimistic than I was. I had written this off as another McFarlane comedy but if this is trying to be a serious trek show, that's awesome. This literal who website says the characters and plots have bad writing, but maybe that can be improved?
Premise can't be changed (family Guy comedy in space vs serious trek show) but writing quality can always be changed for the better.

>>87356964
I want this to succeed, but the more I look at it the more obvious that it's a dud

>there are ZERO (0) good sci-fi shows left on TV
We're in a dark age, mates

>>87357355
that would be fine if his dramatic writing wasn't also heavily reliant on esoteric pop culture references

Not surprising at all. Looked like total unfunny dogshit.

Seth McFarlane is poison outside of Family Guy, which is well beyond its prime.

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How can all members of a specie be male?

>>87357265
I get the impression that he's trying to do "what if Joss Whedon wrote star trek you guys?" but can't pull it off because a) Whedon hasn't been good since 2004 and b) star trek isn't supposed to be a comedy drama

>>87356964
I've got the horrible feeling that despite the reviews I'm going to like this. I found A Million Ways to Die in the West funny too, my brain isn't normal.

>>87357589
How could they NOT?

>>87357686
you probably smoked pot one time and that's what ruined your brain.

>>87357589
Stop oppressing homosexualoids jesus christ!

>>87357589
They have mechanical wombs they can just cum in?

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>>87357593
>star trek isn't supposed to be a comedy drama

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>>87357840
>star trek isn't supposed to be a comedy drama

>>87356964
Brutal

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>>87357919
>star trek isn't supposed to be a comedy drama

>>87357919
Quark dressed like a nigger who just received a large settlement

>>87357840
>>87357919
>>87357968
it can have comedic elements here and there but it's not a sitcom.

>>87358140
Sure but being funny doesn't immediately make something "not Star Trek"
It makes it different than the others, but not by much.

Look at Galaxy Quest. Very Star Trek. Very funny

>>87357982
It's almost as if Ferengi are obsessed with profit and wealth.

>>87356964
Ill still watch new family guy episodes because theres always at least a few good jokes. I have no desire to see Seth Macfarlanes face on screen though. He just isnt funny on his own. Its like he tries to hard or something.

>>87357185
They have been pushing it as a comedy in every promo. What do they expect?

>>87356964
Prove to me this guy isn't just a massive pleb, I clicked on the author's name and most of his articles are about reality shows, so I suspect he isn't the target audience.

>>87357727
>>87357789
>>87357801

It makes no sense to have word for sex if they are all the same.

>>87358540
They used to have women, but they thought they were too much trouble for what they're worth

It's sad to see Seth MacFarlane get so much crap whenever he does any kind of project, whether he's producing/writing/acting/etc. in it.

Look, I know it's popular for people to jump on the hate-bandwagon like they're all uniting against some common enemy, but really? C'mon guys, you're criticizing a guy who pursued his dreams, had his animated hit TV series cancelled TWICE but still brought back from cancellation (which is now in its FIFTEENTH season, btw), spent a good freakin' chunk of his money to bring back Cosmos (AND whose production company, Fuzzy Door Productions, produced the animated bits for the reboot) as well as create an archive at the Library of Congress dedicated to THE Carl Sagan and Ann Druyan, is an activist for gay rights, and is a Star Trek fan (which makes sense for why he'd want to do this show)?

He's not some comic book super-villain, people. He was a kid from Connecticut who started out drawing characters from the cartoons he would watch, making flip books, and even publishing a weekly comic strip in his local newspaper (and even getting paid for it) at age nine. He's a person just like you and I.

And here's something else to think about: did you ever watch Hanna-Barbera cartoons like Dexter's Laboratory, Cow and Chicken, I Am Weasel, and Johnny Bravo? Well guess what, smart guy? He worked for Hanna-Barbera as both a writer and a storyboard artist for many of those shows' episodes.

And just to piss off the MacFarlane-haters: he once dated Emilia Clarke for about six months back in 2012. If you don't know who she is, then do us all a solid by googling the name "Daenerys Targaryen".

>>87358198
The Voyage Home is one of the most popular Trek movies, and it's basically a straight comedy with a science fiction premise.

>>87358140
It literally was a "sitcom" form time to time. The situation lead to comedy. The original series nearly always ended on a joke, and they had weird episodes like when Spock got high and smacked Kirk around, TNG had entire episodes about one or more character being a goofy bastard, or a ridiculous situation arising from a miscommunication on personal level. DS9 has about a full season's worth of comedy, if you excise out all the drama, along the series full run. How about the episode where Quark goes into the Wormhole to save the Nagus from the Prophets' machinations? Pure camp.

Voyager can only be enjoyed as a sitcom.

>>87358779
And, holy shit, I can't believe I forgot The Voyager Home.

Every once in a while, search "the one with the whales" on Wikipedia (without the quotations), it'll know exactly what you're looking for.

>>87358762
no one suggested any of those things. I just don't like his work. he's obviously a smart & talented guy that shits out pablum for the masses and shits out way too much of it for any to be good.

>>87357018
There's still the expanse going.

>>87359106
Oh right
Yeah, I guess that's alright

>>87358540
Not if you account for a translator-convention. The species presents masculine, so for the sake of coherence, the translator presents a masculine word. However, if there is no electronic translator, they could simply choose that word, because they understand the conventions of English and most-of-humanity enough to know that, though asexual, they appear male. So they go with it.

>>87357185
Considering there was a strong Galaxy Quest vibe on the marketing, I don't see why people wouldn't be expecting a comedy.

>>87358540
Two men can have sex.

>>87356964
Maybe if he didn't plaster his fucking punchable fucking face in everything he did.

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>>87357593
Sure thing

>>87359201
They can, yes, but making offspring would be a tad more difficult task. Hence in all male species, sex would most likely be very foreign concept, as there wouldn't be any biological need for it.

Really, with a single sex species, would they even have genitals?

>>87358762
>It's sad to see Seth MacFarlane get so much crap
He's a billionaire, no it isn't

>>87359139
The consternation comes from the fact that the reviewer acknowledged right away that the show is not a comedy, then reviews it on its merits as a comedy.

My push-mower isn't a golf cart. Now, as for its merits are golf cart: Terrible.

>>87359287
But you were told beforehand that it would be a golf cart and you purchased it on the assumption that it would be a golf cart. Shame on you, what a terrible comparison.

>>87359287
>>87359370
>car analogies
I need /v/ to leave

>>87359287
What if your push mover was sold to you as a golf cart?

>>87358762
is that from reddit, because it sure smells like it does

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that went south so fast!

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>>87359591
Close enough, I Googled it and it's a YouTube comment from someone with this as an avatar.

>>87357018
Are you being serious? Who cares what some literal who critic on some bullcrap website has to say? Are you interested in seeing the show? That's all that matters. Form your own opinions, if you are capable of such things.

>>87359736
why is the troll logo someone in doggy position with a stink lines coming off their head?

>>87359397
>golf cart
>car
I need retards to leave

>>87359869
maybe he's european?

>>87359833
They're not a troll but a fighter of trolls.

>>87359793
>shills are on full damage control

>>87357185
>market it as a comedy
>starring a guy known for comedy
>oh it's not a comedy btw
what were they thinking?

>>87360296
Probably something like "oh shit we can't directly compete with Discovery, let's piggyback off the Family Guy comedy credentials"

>>87360191
HUURRRR SHILLS LOL

I don't care either way about this show. At all. But I'm not going to let someone who gets paid to complain about TV shows or movies tell me what I should want to watch. That's reatarded.

>>87357018

the expanse is great you uncultured swine

although there has been a significant drop in writing quality since book 2 (season 2 episode 6 onwards) which is pretty worrying

>>87360574
>doesn't believe in consumer protection
go back to Rapture you libertaritard

Wow, a Seth MacFarlane show is shit. Water is wet. More news at 10.

Move over Seth, and let your actually funny twin brother Sath take over:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrGMh7tO6dk

>>87357185
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy9sKeCE8V0

watch this and tell me this is not a comedy trailer

>>87359793
>only YOUR opinion matter
is this kind of arrogance that is destroying the west

What a complete fuck up

http://www.sfchronicle.com/tv/article/MacFarlane-is-lost-in-space-with-Orville-12169901.php

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Holy fuck according to every review out MacFarlane actually unironically cast himself as a straight, dramatic, Kirk-style lead. Not a satire, not a parody, no winks, no irony.

The fucking ego on this man is completely out of control. I hope the massive budget on this flop burns all of his Family Guy good will and keeps him out of work at FOX forever.

still gon' be better than STD xD

cbs shills in the house

>>87361304
>MacFarlane apologists are a thing on /tv/ now
/tv/ has gone JUST

>>87360705
not an argument

Consumer protection is for facts, not for subjective opinions like move or TV reviews.

>>87357259
Didn't stop everybody from loving rick and morty

>>87356964
THAT WENT SOUTH SO FAST

Seth can't do live action

This has always been true, his le wacky reference humour belongs confined to fox animation

>>87361304
>"STD might be okay, give it a chance, wait until it comes out before you judge it."
>this is considered shilling
>"Orville is going to be awesome, I'm going to watch Orville instead of STD, haters are going to be BTFO!"
>this isn't considered shilling
Really makes my positronic neural net go click click beep beep whir pop.

First Ted was some dumb luck for this guy

So what the hell is it? I was expecting Star Trek parody. Maybe not as good as Futurama, but something in the same spirit. We got incompetent captain played by comedic actor, goofy alien and some weird comedic dynamic with the ex.

Now you telling me what I'm supposed to expect is just plain Star Trek rip-off?

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>>87359793
>Form your own opinions

>>87361469
by all accounts, yeah

there's """"jokes"""" in the episodes, but it's mostly played straight

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>>87356964
>believing anything liberal media writes

Like everything else "deemed shit" by your average critic these days, if you actually take the time to watch whatever it is, you'll see it probably flies in the face of one gay lefty ideology or another.

>jews shitting on mcfarlane again

huh go figure

Jeez Lois, this is even worse then when I ripped off Star Trek.

>>87360690
The expanse is good but all the actors are trash。
Pretty much the opposite of The Strain.

>>87360794
You fucking troll I'm not talking about geopolitics for fuck's sake. I'm talking about movies and tv shows I choose to watch. That's the thing: I choose, not some dipshit on a website.

>>87361739
Thomas Jane is a fucking treasure.
But yeah, literally everyone but him is shit

RIP

>>87359793
Just like Million Ways to Die in the West?

>>87357589

If it worked in Enemy Mine, I'll allow it on a McFarlane show.

>>87361807
I have a spoiler for you if you haven't read the books. So don't read this if you don't wanna know.
He comes back

I'm surprised that (((they))) haven't come for Seth yet

Family Guy is more "problematic" than South Park

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>>87357185
>it's so bad they need to pretend it's not a comedy

>>87357589
Maybe they mate with other species like reverse Asari.

>>87356964
>something made by seth macfarlene is shit

Wow who could have seen that coming?

>>87361887
I haven't, but I totally expected it since we saw that his waifu wasn't really dead and was alive in the protomolecule.

>>87360296
They were thinking

>"Oh shit, McFarlane and co. just tried to make an actual star trek knockoff instead of a comedy and it sucks!"
>"How can we salvage this shit?"
>"Let's try marketing it as a comedy and hope that some of the dumbasses who watch the pilot get hooked on the drama"

They always try it and it never works.

>>87361939
Oh xenomorphs that skip the facehugger stage and just do the straight raping themselves?

>>87360422
Do they need to compete with Discovery? There's more way to make sci fi.

Yeah ill be watching this. I can make up my own damn mind if I like it or not.

>>87362027
I wish it would compete with Discovery
Because right now it's seems like a total cripple fight

Usually competition leads to something actually good. Like B5 vs DS9

>>87356964
I'm still gonna watch it. Jon Favreau is directing the pilot so I'm going to give it the benefit of the doubt.

>>87360723
Why would that not indicate a comedy.
I mean it doesn't have to be non stop jokes but seriously it looks like it has an overarching comedy about it from this.

>>87362148
This days competition seems to lead to poor quality copycats.

>>87361422
OHH!

>>87362205
How competition should be
>How can I be better than you

How competition is
>How can I spend less money than you and still be successful

Hello yes I have a question: Has anyone ITT seen an episode of this show yet?

>>87358762
The only other person I've ever seen speak like such a faggot was a jewish girl. I'm one hundred percent serious.

>>87356964
He pretends not to take himself seriously, but he really takes himself seriously. The decline of family guy and the improvement of American Dad.

>>87362434
I have. My Uncle works for FOX and showed it to me. It was shit.

He needs to stop casting himself as the star

It's not just arrogance, but thinking that nobody else can get the vision of the character just right

>>87364653
I don't think he's a bad actor. Is he?

>>87365156
He's a good voice actor but he lacks the, I don't know, presence or something, that REAL actors have
You see it all the time in VAs trying be real actors.
They say the lines right but everything else just feels wrong

>>87365156
He has limited range. But when the film is subpar, it makes his role even more egregirous

>>87357589
They're advanced enough to have FTL space flight. Maybe they used to have genders but at some point gave it up and reproduce artificially instead now.

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>people actually defending seth mcfarlane here
just nuke this fucking board already

>>87357589
Budding

>>87366573
That would make them asexual, not male

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>>87366669
ID as Male, but reproduce by budding

I had a roommate once who watched family guy dvds everyday.
I would occasionally watch an episode or 2 out of boredom.
I never laughed or even smiled at that pile of shit show,

>>87360705
Its lolbertarian, newfag. Learn the vernacular

>>87359793
You're right but don't bother in this place, reviews and RT scores are all that matters here. Fuck actually watching TV and film.

>>87365791
it seems like it's just people that like sci fi tbqh