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Reminder it's here

https://www.mediafire.com/file/0qf5e4w8af48mw5/shit%20trips%20Vol%202%20Fin%20Ver.pdf

https://mega.nz/#!p08njCCI!40J2weokq3G1yx53PlkPTeAIbgwTh32fTT4LBwnmPLk

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>>87314704

>not Shit Trips 2 edition

>>87314639

If you want to. I think we can assume the Doctor figured it out...eventually.

>>87314787
Thanks.

Any more thoughts on Shit Trips 2 entries?

what if doctor who was a gopher

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Okay, I've put this together as a draft schedule for the book club starting this Wednesday. What do people think? I'm open to shifting stuff forwards and backwards a slot, but generally want to go in book order.

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>>87314943
A combination of the 9th and 12th Doctors

>>87314935
>Any more thoughts on Shit Trips 2 entries?
I'm just stoked you managed to get Briggs to consult on lymerence's story.

>’It must be all those wee space particles, Jamie replies.

Surely that came from him right?

>>87314995
Looks good?

Catchphrase Crisis and the Tenth Hour's first page are awfully alike

>>87315178
they were written by different anons about the same doctor, what's the issue. 10 has those particular catchphrases

>>87315126
Obviously.

You just reminded me about the "WE LOVE STORIES" story I meant to write, about an alien that preyed on piraters of Big Finish. Guess that'll be for ST Vol 3.

>>87315178
Really? Huh.

>>87315252
Wasn't criticising, just found it vaguely amusing

>>87315524
fuck whyd i get all snide about it, im sorry anon, just tired. my bad familia

>>87315571
No biggie anon, it did sound like I was accusing someone of plagiarising a shit trip

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>a make up artist had to cover Per'is cleavage with bird makeup by hands
Luckiest person who ever worked on Doctor Who ?
Just imagine having hours to cover Bryant's breasts with feathers, leaving nothing uncovered...

>>87314943
That would be odd.

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for streamfags

And now an excerpt from Piss Heather by Simon Cyberman. Ahem

>"I nearly came early but she used her puddle powers to keep the cum inside me, furthering my organism."

Thank you.

>>87316206
kek, wtf

>>87314935
Masterpiece. Well done /who/!

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>>87316206
>>87316252
two kino posts in a row

>>87316256
IIRC part of that whole miniseries (unless I'm mixing it up with another one?) is that the Doctors see various points at which each of them could have gone down a dark path. 11's involves staying in the TWORS bubble reality, I think 12's might have been kicking out Clara in S8? I don't entirely remember.

>>87316352
Sounds GOAT, what's it called?

>>87316256
>>87316352
>>87316385
The Four Doctors by Paul Cornell. We storytimed that right before S9, it was pretty poor.

>>87316352
Yeah. 12's is "When I told her to 'go to hell', she actually did!"

>>87316385
'The Four Doctors.' It's not quite as GOAT as it sounds.

>>87316476
>>87316430
Cornell is kino though, what went wrong?

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>>87316476
Oh yeah, and then as a result 12 turns into an evil bearded Gandalf version of himself that looks absolutely GOAT.

SCP Anon here, real quick, I just want to say that I cannot describe my absolute joy and surprise when bumping into 6062 and Five Items, holy shit.

I just want to thank Immigrant, catharticspurious and whoever was responsible for Five Items for taking my simple little sad story badly written in one afternoon and taking it to a whole new level.
Special props to cathartic for writing an actual SCP entry, with terminology and formatting and everything, something that I tried to do in Solitude but gave up halfway through and took the lazy route.
Seriously, I'm giddy right now. Thank you all.

Also, was the cypher in Five Items an already existing one? Because I translated it all by hand :p

I'm thinking of listening to the big finish dalek audios, I've basically seen every classic/modern dalek episode but I want more, are any of the dalek audios good? I'm willing to pay for even the full price ones if it means a good dalek story

SHIT TRIPS 2 EARLY REVIEW-

For those of you who like Hell Bent, it's 10/10. Tbh its really comfy. And dumb. And comfy.

For those of you who don't like Hell Bent, you should get some taste.

>>87316528
I honestly can't remember a lot about the story, except that it had Voords in it.
I remember the art getting steadily worse and worse as the comic progressed.

>>87316929
Lel what is the relevance of Hell Bent?

>>87316921
You mean the Dalek Empire audios? Or just audios with Daleks in general? Cause i m o the best Dalek story of all Doctor Who is an audio

>>87316818
Bottle_Universe wrote the last entry. And thanks for your gratitude.It couldn't happen without your good start.

Any other stories you liked?

>>87317032
Its a /who/ meme, senpai.

I'm 2 pages into this 1 & Slitheen story and already loving it

>>87317032
I've heard about the Dalek Empire audios, are they good? I'll buy em all if they're worth it
Also are there any other Dalek audios that are worth getting?

>>87317032
The Short Trips: Dalek Empire anthology, which had stories somewhat based on the Dalek audios, actually made the Daleks scary again.

>>87317666
I don't mean this as an attack but as a genuine question, but how can an audio make the Daleks scary again?
No offence to the realm of audio media, but for me the best scary Dalek scenes have been the visuals

>>87317647
>Also are there any other Dalek audios that are worth getting?
Jubilee!!!

Haven't heard Empire myself, but heard good things

>>87317842
Jubilee is what was adapted to become 'Dalek', right?
Which is better?

The Parting of the Crisps might go over a few people's heads but that's why I love it. Well done neo, the ending nearly killed me.

>>87317910
Jubilee, 0 question. Dalek is a good monster story. Jubilee is a masterpiece, one of the best Who stories there is.

>>87317826
I think the Daleks are always scarier as an idea, like a mobile manifestation of death, than they are physically. The TV show has gotten lucky a few times and managed to make them visually imposing despite their silliness, but I think you can make them just as much of a threat in a book or an audio if you write them the right way.

>>87317991
fantastic, i'll check it out, thanks
any other good Dalek audios?
and just out of interest, do any Dalek episodes actually come across as scary to anyone? I remember as a kid being terrified by Dalek when it first aired (the scene with the people being slaughtered in the rain) and also the scene in Resurrection with the gas, still gets me even to this day.
But are any Dalek episodes 'scary'?

>>87317910
Jubilee is easily better, it's not really a fair competition when it has a much broader canvas of 2 hours and is able to work with more themes plus a unique setting. (Also Evelyn is a better character than Rose but that goes without saying.)

Doctor Who is dead.

>>87318129
You make a very good point.
My dream is a Doctor-less Dalek Empire style mini series that demonstrates on-screen the 'power of the daleks' that has never been truly shown on-screen aside from I guess the short scene of the Fall of Arcadia in the 50th

>>87318103
Parting of the Ways, for the sheer brutality of it I suppose. For kids especially, I know my kids refuse to watch it past the part where the woman dies in the corridor.

>>87317910
They're both brilliant on their own merits, I honestly wouldn't know which one to pick. Jubilee is perfect for audio, Dalek is perfect for TV.

>>87318103
Despite it being a fakeout, the bit in Magician's Apprentice where they're all just sitting silently waiting for Clara to run was probably the most intense Dalek scene in a long while.

>>87317970
Very glad you enjoyed it! I've watched/read those interviews enough the details had drilled deep into my mind.

>>87318103
>any other good Dalek audios?
There are a lot that are kinda arc-heavy, I might get back to you later today after looking through my audios

>>87318529
I agree, I liked the fact that Magician's Apprentice showed a more animalistic and brutal side to the Daleks. Despite being lectured by Missy on how it would be a tactical advantage to keep her alive, they disregard all that and fire on her anyway. Davros' description of whats going on makes it too.

>>87318779
I'm not sure if I read it somewhere, or it was said in an episode. But somewhere, I recall that it's been said that a Dalek's weapons in engineered to, in the final moments, cause the maximum amount of pain to the enemy, right before death. For no other reason, than pure spite.

That is the difference between Cybermen and the Daleks. The Cybermen are the threat of unrelenting effeciency without true empathy or consent. The Daleks are the threat of unrelenting hate.

>>87319082
I remember that. You are referring to the Tenth Doctor novel 'Prisoner of the Daleks', in which the Daleks exterminate the potential 'companion' in the first act of the book, and the Doctor laments that she took longer than normal to die at the hands of the Dalek due to that alteration to their weapons.

I bet you guys fucking LOVE fucking Hell Bent

>>87319425
neo unashadmely loves it, he writes essays on it all the time

>>87316818

bottleuniverse here. The cipher was original, so hopefully it translated okay. It was a lot of fun to work out how to do it. Glad you enjoyed!

I want to die, /who/

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>>87319631
Don't die.

>>87319631
Stay living, please. We need you for ST Vol 3.

Are there any good memey Shit Trips?

>>87319631
>>87319775
Seconded, chumbleys vs abzorbaloff is GOAT

>>87319846
loads. chumbleys vs abrosovaolf, parting of the crisps, 13 trips, list goes on and on

>>87319631
No death allowed

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>>87319911
>abrosovaolf

>>87319846
Guest of honor was good, also /who/niverse: never trust randomness for the twisted spectacle of it

>>87318244
Into the Dalek came close but realistically the only way the Daleks are ever gonna be scary again is if an episode set in the future ends with the Daleks arriving at whatever planet/colony/space station the story is taking place on and just destroys everything while the Doctor runs away. Scenes of people being gunned down by the Daleks never happen, despite that being their forte

>that "Who is Doctor Who?" reference in "The War of the Doctor"
GOAT

>>87319953
For ST3 someone better write a story featuring the doctor battling the fearsome abrosovaolf

>>87320027
>Scenes of people being gunned down by the Daleks never happen, despite that being their forte
You just hear the Daleks screaming Exterminate and people screaming in pain.

>>87320269
Heh, I first read that when I was a kid in 2005 so it's always stuck big in my mind, I can't imagine the regen without it!

Adam Orford X Jenna Coleman is best couple

>>87320308
The Daleks have been handled badly. They need to be left out of Nuwho for a while and then come back in a big way, a shock reveal that turns the end of an episode on its head. Imagine a story where the Doctor saves a random planet from a random monster and everything turns out ok, only for the shadow of a Dalek saucer to appear and within minutes the planet is lost. That is what Terry Nation first envisaged with his Dalek War, but the budget did not allow for it so we ended up with Planet of the Daleks. We need the Daleks to demonstrate their menace, both to the universe within Doctor Who but also to the audience in general. We need a scene that we can show to non-Who fans and say 'Look at this. This is what the Daleks are and this is what they do.' that makes them seem scary, threatening and tragic at the same time. So far, the episode 'Dalek' is the closest nuwho has come to this, with Parting of the Ways and perhaps Into the Dalek in second. give me any other examples of the Daleks doing what they do best in Nuwho.

>>87317910
Dalek

Just had an idea for a story for shit trips 3, but i think it would be too long for a short story compilation:

the was master has gathered all the doctor's enemies that arent allied with the daleks to form a coalition to win the time war.

Suddenly time lords are shot up by dalek weaponry.chaos ensues and everyone gets paranoid and carves up the planet into home bases. In paranoia everyone is at an unofficial
Armistice. All except one lone group of 30 humans who was invited to represent the 3rd great human empire.

As the group aims to get back home through the hordes of foes, the mysterious eighth doctor aims to guide them home through the zones and armies to a space port. But when the humans are blamed, every army seems poised to hunt them down as they pass. Worse still when the doctor leaves promising to return, and an old man in an old leather coat shows up claiming to be the one to fulfill the promise.

Itd be like anabasis meets doctor who, but i think itd be really really long

>>87321147
You could get away with it if you divided it into shorter episodes, there's a very long one in ST2 that does this.

>>87321147
if you compress it down to just key scenes u could fit it in, catharcticsuprious and neocloister have some pretty complicated fics they made work like that

>>87320836
BBC has to have them show up once a season though or they lose the rights

For those who listened to Doom Coalition, how would you describe Helen? Like, what's her character?

>>87321147
Sounds like you should start writing, anon. Shit Trips 3 is at least a year away, so you have time. It's a great idea.

>>87321280
>For those who listened to Doom Coalition, how would you describe Helen? Like, what's her character?
Bland, nondescript, dull.

>>87321273
Never been an iota of evidence for this and the showrunners deny it, though it's possible.

>>87321280
Speaking of which, should we do a 2.5 after the christmas special? Its not like we're going to have who during the summer to inspire us

>>87321482
maybe reassess when we get there. if we do them too often they wont feel special.
maybe we could do a purely spinoffs edition

>>87321482
If /who/ wants it. Maybe 10 to 15 stories? I probably won't have the time for a whole set.

>>87321534
A spinoff and alternate Doctor only Edition might be nice.

>>87321686
for now, lets just enjoy ST2 instead of planning for ST3 anyway :)

>>87321780
Yes!

Comments and critiques, of course.

>>87321333
The proof, as they say, is in the pudding. The Daleks have shown up once a season in NuWho as far as I'm aware, even if in a brief cameo appearance. Why else would the Beeb keep trotting them out when they've shelved the Cibbermen for long periods before

>>87315943
Yeah, but would you a Bird Peri?

>>87321980
Because they're good trailer bait.

>>87321980
That's conspiracy type thinking. The showrunners have flat out denied it, and the Daleks are hugely popular enemies they have a tonne of easy props for, and a reliable actor for.

>>87321980
The version of this urban legend I find myself believing is that they have to show up on TV once a year, rather than strictly per season.

It seems too much of a coincidence that even in a year when the show was literally off the air, the sodding Daleks still aired in new televised material.

Someone reply to this with a classic episode title. Dubs and I'll photoshop the DVD cover to fuck it up.

>>87322087
wait where were they in 2016

>>87322133
The Mind Robber

>>87322070
Showrunner's denying it means nothing if the BBC told them to do so.

>>87322155
That was easy.

>>87322133
Doctor Who and the Silurians

>>87322155
Well, that was quick.

>>87322135
Friend From The Future aka Bill's introductory clip that aired during the football.

>>87322133
Vengeance on Varos

>>87322164
The BBC literally cannot lie, they'd be in massive strife if they did

>>87322231
Tell that to Jimmy Saville's victims

>>87322306
>>87322206
Good points, though I stick by my position.

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>>87322231
>The BBC literally cannot lie

>>87322231
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/next-doctor-who-woman-bbc-letter-fan-kris-marshal-a7692241.html

What strife?

>>87322350
That worker was rogue, and fired.

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Explain to me.
Average Human Chav Rose absorbs the Time Vortex...heart of the tardis w/e...a-ok except a little amnesia.
Time Lord absorbs it , well shit i'm dying regeneration time.
just simple plot I'm sure but it still bugs me after all these years.

>>87322350
lol at the single comment below that article

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>>87319953
>It's an abrosovaolf has to use the toilet episode

>>87322529
>a-ok except a little amnesia.
Rose would have died if the Doctor hadn't taken it on himself.

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>>87322589
well yes i get that, i was referring to both of their conditions afterward.
Rose had it in her for a good 5 - 10 minutes maybe. and the doctor about 30 seconds.

it vexes me anon.

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>"I love how Trannies choose names like Munroe, Paris and Chelsea. It's never Julie or Bev, is it? It's almost like it's a clueless gayboy's idea of a glamorous lady. But of course it's definitely not that."
What did Gareth Roberts, writer of

The Shakespeare Code
The Unicorn and the Wasp
Planet of the Dead
The Lodger
Closing Time
The Caretaker

Mean by this?

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>>87322833
I'll let Lawrence "Last of the GOATlords" Miles handle this one

>>87322721
I've always seen it as the time vortex can't be easily returned once its been absorbed - its not holding it in your head that kills you, its losing that power that does the damage. The Doctor transfers the power to himself and then erases Rose's memory of the incident, thereby negating the effect. He is then left with the task of returning the power to the TARDIS, and it is that act that causes him to regenerate. That's just my interpretation though.

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>>87314704
>this dalek calls you a clever boy
What do?

>>87322529
Maybe releasing the energy killed him? Maybe it's like hot potato and it was just warming up and the Doctor takes it out only to have it explode when he had it. How exactly did he absorb it from Rose? He kissed her, but maybe to extract it he needed to start the regeneration process. Did it ever specify that Rose actually absorbed it? Maybe she didn't absorb it all yet, just kind of had it floating about in there and the Doctor took it all out before she went full TV.

>>87322833
Turns out, when people name themselves they typically go for whatever sounds like it'd get them more attention. It's the same principle for actors using stage names.

Except, transgendered people insist that this is their honest to god, actual identity.

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>>87323077
Dubs Checked.
Ya know, that makes sense and will be my headcanon from now until Rusty tells us otherwise. Thanks, anon.

>>87323261
I've always thought it would be funny to see the entire scene from Matt's perspective. Imagine a Dalek saying 'Run you clever boy' or talking about its bicurious girlfriend.

>>87323400
The most untapped detail of Asylum is that Oswin was able to transmit her mental inner voice (human sounding) over the speaker system, rather than her real physical Briggs-with-ring-modulator tones. How much of Dalekdom is truly in the mind?

>>87322833
it's when trannies pick Alice (MtF) or Aidan (FtM) because they're high on the list of alphabetical names

>>87323063
>Its a "Doctor Who as a hard science fiction with original concepts and ideas" vs. "Doctor Who as a comfy melodrama with fun characters and a heartfelt message" episode.

>>87323261
Get converted into a Dalek and join Oswins dream.

>>87323508
Good point, I've always seen that as a plot hole and not a point of interpretation, but if you think about it, Daleks are all about psychic-ness and projection of the mind - its even implied thats how they power themselves. Could it be that each individual Dalek has their own 'inner voice'?

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New comics look real weird
http://www.comicon.com/2017/09/04/the-ninth-doctor-rose-madame-vastra-preview-part-2-of-titans-lost-dimension-cross-over/

>>87319975
>Guest of honor was good
Ayyy my man, thanks

>>87323740
I don't understand why Tom Baker is on that variant cover

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The horse is the white of the eyes...and dark within

>>87324025
Is he in the comic?

>>87323063
Does Miles have any room to talk when his vision of Britain is 1990s Teletubbyland?

>>87323623
Do we know for certain that Oswin was ever a crewmember aboard the Alaska and not just a totally insane Dalek who took that persona on as their escapist fantasy?
Watch Asylum again and think to yourself - why would a tiny ship like the Alaska with a crew of merely 10 or less need a 'juniour entertainment officer'? And how do the Daleks just turn a human into a Dalek?

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What did the BBC mean by this?

>>87324340
>And how do the Daleks just turn a human into a Dalek?
Probably similarly to what they were doing in Revelation of the Daleks. The logicality of turning humans into Daleks is up for debate, but there's enough of an established precedent that it doesn't demand skepticism.

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>>87324455
hahahaha, well done sir.

>>87324496
I thought the point of Revelation though was that the standard Daleks found the idea of Davros turning humans into Daleks totally abhorrent
The only examples of Human-to-Dalek transition is Evolution of the Daleks and Parting of the Ways, both instances where the Daleks were truly insane and/or too desperate to care. Why would Daleks in the Asylum even bother with that anyway? Surely they are too far gone to care?

>Revelation of the Daleks
>nothing about them is revealed that we don't already know

>>87324340
I think the Daleks in the Parting of the Ways were converted humans

How do they actually make Daleks? I know in Daleks Take Manhattan, the Cult of Skaro were pissed off because they couldn't make new Daleks.

>>87324830
>Resurrection of the Daleks
>They're the ones who resurrect Davros

>>87324999
By mutating and experimenting on Kaled embryos, originally. There's some really fucked up bits in I, Davros.

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GET IN STREAM

NINTH DOCTOR MARATHON

GO GO GO

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Big Finish has such immersive sound design, I was lying in bed last night listening to an audio before I went to sleep and I swear, felt like the characters were in the room with me. Or I was on an alien planet, more like.

Listening with your eyes closed isn't always the most convenient of ways, but it is the best.

>>87324455
k e k

>>87325049
puts Daleks in Manhatten/Evolution of the Daleks into a whole new perspective.
" We tried growing... new Dalek embryos... but their flesh was too weak. "

>>87325386
Dalek Jast had too many miscarriages.

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Does anyone have the other ones of this set?

>>87325484
Dalek Jast.
Who even was Dalek Jast?
I feel like each member of the Cult was meant to have their own personality - I was utterly obsessed with the Cult of Skaro as a kid, but looking back, they were underused and underdeveloped. How would one make them better?

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JUST

>>87325773
>wonder 'why would they post this'
>notice it's a fan account
Oh ok.

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>>87323623
Is there anything /who/ wouldn't do for some jenna pusy?

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>>87325995
Id prefer to India a Fisher. IYKWIM

>>87325825
It's really no worse than the official Twitter, with their endless "it's International Lamp Day, here's nine pictures of lamps in Doctor Who" content

>>87325995
But pancake tits

>>87326146
> "it's International Lamp Day, here's nine pictures of lamps in Doctor Who"

Shit, really? Sounds something like Tardis Data Core would do.

>>87326231
They did it with international cat day, at least. I've seen them do similar with other things. and let's not forget "doctor who and the 'toilet agenda' of series 10" on the official facebook

>reading solitude shit trip
>oh great. A found footage episode like Last Day or Sleep no More
>the one scene happens

Bravo anon. Thought it was gonna suck, almost did suck, then my expectations were turned around. Good job bud.

>>87325580
Are you literally me?

>>87326231
I mean, that's an exaggeration, but only slightly.
https://twitter.com/bbcdoctorwho/status/894890975205752832
https://twitter.com/bbcdoctorwho/status/894891491658682368
https://twitter.com/bbcdoctorwho/status/894891978462117888
https://twitter.com/bbcdoctorwho/status/894892476301025280

It just seems like they're aiming it at primary-school kids for the most part. Clayton Hickman's the one to follow for rare behind-the-scenes pics and TARDIS trivia

>>87325995
I wouldn't consume any of that shit show doctor who

>>87326605
Iris Wildthyme purist, eh?

>>87326657
No, K9 for me

I'm about halfway through the 8/Charley audios, just got onto the Divergent Universe stuff. Is it possible to just skip on to the EDAs or will I be confused and miss stuff? I don't really like Charley at all and Zagreus/Scherzo seem to suggest they're heading in a more abstract direction with the stories which I don't really like

>>87327302
I haven't listened to the 8/Charley audios, but I listened to the EDAs and for the most part they seem pretty independent from the main range stuff

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>>87327446
They pretty much are, I believe. You can theoretically listen to one without the other, but stuff like Dark Eyes requires the context of the end of the EDAs, iirc.

>>87327302
I don't think the other stories are quite as abstract, though I admit I haven't listened to them all myself just yet.

>>87327302
The EDAs and later are deliberately separate from the earlier 8 stories. And yeah you might want to do that, your prediction is correct and Charley is a huge part of 8's main range stories

>>87327302
Ill be honest with you anon, the majority of the divergent universe is experimental as fuck and love it or hate it. I maybe like 3 or 4 stories out of it. But after the next life they go back to the main universe and hit kino after kino. There's maybe 2 stories in the range from terror firma-the girl who never was that are actively bad. The rest are fantastic.

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>a repeated meme is just an idea

What did he mean by this?

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>>87328199
>a repeated meme is just an idea

What did he mean by this?

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>>87328451
>a repeated meme is just an idea

What did he mean by this?

>>87328199
>>87328451
>>87328491
>jizz smeared on the camera lens
What did Euros Lyn mean by this?

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>>87328704
You tell me, Anon.

>>87328704
It means he used a shit ton of soft lenses that were cool at the time to give the show a dream-like quality but look like utter shite on a high definition tv where the look is more exact and just makes everything seem out if focus

>>87327836
Dark eyes doesn't really require context if you know that people can die, context can improve the experience though

>>87328704
He wanted to fuck Ecclescakes, obviously.

>>87329041
I think that's what makes it seem so quintessentially 2005 and almost a CBBC-style look, do you get what I mean?

>>87320269
What was it? I loved that page.

Also why doesn't Briggs write for the TV show?

>>87329129
Which is fine if you want to appreciate it as a piece of history, but if you're looking for timeless who like City of Death or Spearhead From Space then it's hurt by the visual style

>>87329485
Too busy running his ear story empire.

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>>87329518
Yeah, RTD's era ages badly, so as much as the soft lenses were a new and interesting effect back then, they already don't look good a few years on.

>>87329075
Ah, true enough, I suppose. I would always recommend the additional context for anything, though, if it added to it at all, but that's just me.

>>87330452
I mean, when they were new it was a great effect. Star Trek:ToS still looks amazing 50 years later. I think trying to evoke that late 60s, early 70s look with a modern, pre-hd digital camera was a mistake

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Get yourself a man who looks at you like the Brigadier looks at the exotic Turkish delight of the East - Sherezadi!

>>87322833
He's never going to work for the BBC in any capacity again, is he?

>>87331187
I feel like he gave up on that sometime around 2015

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>>87331105
Yeah, it just didn't stand the test of time, really. I do understand what they were going for with it, and the sort of feel they were trying to evoke, but in hindsight, I'd definitely have traded that for episodes that aged well. I wonder how RTD feels about the choice in hindsight, assuming he was the one that ultimately signed off on it.

>>87331187
People would lose their shit if he did, but there's no way the BBC would hire him again with his track record, and especially not after the news articles about this latest hateful shit popping up with every search of his name. If the death certificate for his career wasn't already signed and dated, it is now.

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>>87327302
Shame you don't like charley, she's actually my favorite companion

even listened to her own audio stories

>>87332668
Are those good? I couldnt get into 6 and charlie but i liked all the stuff through the girl who never was

>>87331384
Honestly, I don't think people will give a shit in a few years time. There's always something new to be outraged over every couple of weeks.

>>87333426
I assume this is in response to the Gareth stuff? Yeah, people will forget about all this shit pretty quick, but the BBC still wouldn't risk having that sort of controversy. Why hire a writer that so many people hate and has that sort of history (easily accessible with a quick google) over new, more talented writers? It's not as though his episodes were particularly spectacular or anything.

Either that, or it's about the shitty lens effects in RTD's era, in which case... I mean, well. yeah.

>>87333593
I like all of his episodes desu

>>87333799
I do too, actually. They're really comfy... but they're not exactly the absolute best the show has to offer, and they're not new and unique concepts in general, so as much as I liked his episodes, never having him write for the show ever again is no big loss.

Besides, some of Chibnall's episodes (like The Power of Three) channelled that sort of comfy, so I'm sure we'll get similar going forward.

>>87333932
The Hungry Earth (and whatever the second part is called) were very comfy, but the only episode by Chibbers that I would say is good would be Power of Three imo. Haven't seen his non-Who work though so I can't really say for certain, but I'm still very nervous about his run

>>87333593
Yeah, it is about that. And considering Gareth hasn't done anything for the Beeb in three years, they've probably already cut him off and he's just exacerbating it.

The only thing I've got to say about the lens effect thing is...you never know what's going to look like shit in a few years time. It's best to recognize that most television is made with the technology and audience existing at the time in mind.

>>87333799
I liked his version of Shada. That's about it.

Should I continue the climb on Overwatch, or watch more classic Who?

>>87334041
Honestly I think Gareth is loads better at prose. Only Human and English Way of Death are fantastic stories, but when I think about his episode style based off his scripts...lets just say I'm glad big finish brought in someone to rework the book into an audio.

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>>87334039
The Power of Three falls apart a little in the latter part of the story for me, but it's still a hugely enjoyable episode. None of Chibnall's episodes are bad, they're just not... amazing. You know? There's nothing that stands out, aside from the general comfy aspect to them. That's fine, of course, but I'm curious - and nervous - to see if he'll be able to deliver with the big finales and stuff.

>>87334041
Mhm, I didn't think we were going to see much of him ever again but this stuff just seals the deal.

And as for the lens effect, yeah, I know. It seemed good at the time, but it just didn't age well. Hindsight is a powerful thing, though - like you say, you never know what'll it look like in time to come, so I certainly don't blame the crew for the stylistic choices made.

>>87334144
Depends. How well is that climb going?

So what are the chances Gareth will go to Obverse/Thebes/BBV/whatever and make a series of Chelonian books?

>>87334448
>The Power of Three falls apart a little in the latter part of the story for me, but it's still a hugely enjoyable episode
Same can be said about a lot of episodes of Who

>Depends. How well is that climb going?
As well as I can hope, finished my placements and got 2305 (better than I've done most seasons), and managed to get to like a 2450 in the same day

Does anyone have a full list of ERASED Doctor Who writers? I know Larry, Gareth, and probably Jim Mortimore are on that list, who else?

>>87334462
Theres a greater chance of Shit Trips retroactively becoming Canon and receiving big finish adaptations.

>>87334781
I mean, what else is Gareth gonna do now that he's been ERASED? Make an ITV show?

>>87334761
>Larry
>Jim Mortimore
what'd they do

>>87334736
>Same can be said about a lot of episodes of Who
Very true, so I can't fault Chibnall too much for that. The comfy of the rest of the ep (and the kino conversation that 11 has with Amy) are more than enough to make up for everything else. And even then, the conclusion wasn't that bad.

>finished my placements and got 2305
I'm proud! Well done, anon. I've not even finished my placements yet, I've been too busy watching stuff and listening to audios. Which server region are you on?

>>87334850
>Larry
Talked shit about every Doctor Who writer (except for Jacqueline Rayner because he had a crush on her) in interviews and blogs, leading to almost all of them refusing to talk to him ever again.
>Jim Mortimore
Became a loony anti-vaxxer who sells off-brand Doctor Who books from the back of his van.

>>87334926
Americas. What rank are you usually?

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>>87334818
Here's his master plan

>>87335100
Ah, I'm on EU myself, though I play on US from time to time when I'm bored because Americans always seem to be funnier and more talkative on OW. I'm usually around 3.2k, though sometimes higher or lower. I want to try get better than that this time around, but I probably won't have much time to do so.

So why did Gareth go nuts again?

>>87335156
Why would Gareth want McGann back? He never wrote any EDAs, and he's only written one or two Eighth Doctor stories before.

>>87334761
Im pretty sure they erased Helen Raynor for sucking shit through a straw, vomiting it on a page and calling it an episode. When they brought back female writers no one even bothered mentioning her being the last female who writer.

I think don houghton got erased from doctor who too after he chose to quit and write shitty b-movies. He didnt even come back to novelize his own shit despite being a novelist with 3 books

>>87335306
I've not seen any proof that he wasn't always this way deep down, and just better at repressing it back then. His insults to trans people sound like venting a long-festering hatred.

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>>87335156
He can keep his slimy fingers off of Eight, frankly. Although I wouldn't mind a series starring McGann.

>>87335306
You mean the recent incident? No particular reason, I suppose he just felt like it. Same with all of his sudden hateful rants.

>>87334761
The bloke who wrote Nekromanteia for Big Finish.
>its author was, at Peter Davison's request, never hired to write for Doctor Who ever again.
I don't even know if this is an urban legend

>>87335333
Because bringing back mcgann to declare nuwho noncanon would mean its not a continuation of the classic show since many people consider him the last classic doctor

>>87335360
JNT erased Eric Saward due to refusing to rewrite Ultimate Foe, an erasure so thorough that Big Finish has never asked Saward to come back to write an audio.

>>87335527
Can you blame them though? Slipback was horrendous

>>87335455
>>87335486
I should've asked what caused him to go nuts in the first place.

>>87335360
Helen's episodes were good.

>>87335791
I don't think there's anything in particular that can be pinpointed as the reason he suddenly started all this. Like the other anon said, he probably always thought like this in some way and now that he's not under the BBC's thumb, he feels as though he can express it without any repercussion. That's what I've always thought it was, unless anyone knows differently.

>>87335888
From what I can gather, he may have had a falling out with Moffat over casting Capaldi and having his Caretaker script rewritten, and that led him to airing out some dirty laundry.

>>87335228
Damn you're way better than me rip. I won't have much time for games soon too though

we still gotta start that /who/ OW league

>>87336005
Yeah, this started in what... 2015?

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>>87335798
Wanderer, please. You're about to defend the pic related for context. While on some level I can respect that everyone has an opinion and that I'm not going to like what someone else likes, I'd rather not have someone try and explain to me how a story that made that happen was a good episode.

I'd take minuet in hell first.

>>87317039
Hey, sorry for the delay, I was pretty much leaving when I made the post and was out all day.
I mostly skimmed around to get a good idea of what this edition had so I haven't read much besides the scp stories.
The Abzorballoff vs Chumbleys story lived up to the hype and then some more, the missing episodes bit caught me so off guard it's ridiculous, burst up laughing here.
Other than that, framing story's pretty good. It's a cute and creative way to jumble all this up, excited to see how it plays out.

>>87319488
Translated nicely, I liked how it cutted out just at the end, it kinda made it that extra dramatic and effective because you're reading as you're translating.

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>>87336005
Ah, I see. Do you know why he was upset over Capaldi being cast? I wouldn't have expected that.

>>87336053
Nah, I've just been lucky at times with getting good teams. It's like a lottery, really, particularly when you're solo-queuing.

yeah, we need to set it up one day. i can give you my btag if you want, but be aware i don't log on US bnet as much as EU

Does John Peel count as an erased writer? After writing those Dalek EDAs everybody hated, it seemed like he got kicked out and can only write for those Brigadier books.

>>87336125
Personally I love that episode, I don't get what the hate is about

>>87336276
Yeah post yours idk if my internet can handle going on the EU servers tho

>>87336005
Oh yeah, "That's Gareth!" had objections over Capaldi, calling him a great actor but a terrible Doctor.

>>87336778
>>87336778
I mean, i just don't like them giving 8 so much amnesia. Its a bit overdone early on what with the telemovie and the 8 doctors doing it and a comics story or 2. But I can see why someone would like it: the brigadier chat at the end is REALLY really heartwarming>>87336778

>>87336778
Luna#23373 - I'll switch over to US bnet to accept the friend request! also, I can go on US fine but I do get around 100ms~ so it's not ideal, but definitely bearable

>>87336933
eight's amnesia is pretty much one of his character traits at this point kek

>>87336276
Maybe Capaldi called his writing shit and ripped a hardback copy of The Highest Science up right in front of him with his bare hands.

Why didn't Gareth write any EDAs?

>>87336976
I kinda like how early 8 and late 8 are separate characters. It was a huge shock after the EDAs and how they ended to reset him back to early 8 in the mary shelley audios(if you get the chance, throw them in at that slot. Its a very good break).

i wish theyd actually make some new early 8 audios. Getting a little sick of mr. Cranky 8 for the last 7 box sets and so many extra audios in between since TLaTE

>>87336976
Thank you! I'll add you now

>>87336933
I was talking about Daleks Take Manhattan/evolution of the daleks

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>>87337256
Anon pls.

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>>87337317
Oh... oops. Coincidentally, I just started listening to Minuet in Hell, haven't finished the first part yet though so no real opinion yet

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im playing that shitty mobile game doctor who legacy and it wont register the existence of my phone's stylus so i'm upset

>>87337161
While I love the character progression of Eight, it is a bit of a shame that after a point that sort of... "broken" version of him is all we have. Not that I don't love him even then, but the initial charm of him is all that childlike happiness and sweetness, and to see that all utterly stripped away because of how shit the universe has treated him is just heartbreaking.

I know it's ultimately more poetic and meaningful that he started out so innocent and the universe essentially punished him for it, but, god. Please, Briggs, give the poor boy a break. He deserves one.

Now we're having to see him in the middle of the Time War, so it's just gonna be more pain.

>>87337256
accepted!

>>87337384
You will soon. Eventually everyone gets one about this audio.

>>87337384
I'm so sorry.

I wonder if McGann and Eccleston have ever actually met each other.

>>87338363
I doubt Eccleston could bear to be in the presence of someone who's played the Doctor. It would just bring back memories of his own time on Doctor Who and cause him to fly into an uncontrollable rage.

>>87338607
Just pray they don't have a bag of crisps on them

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McGann's life must be relatively easy as the Doctor, in comparison to some others. I'm watching videos of him at a con, and he's in this room with a bunch of fans and not one of them gives a shit. Not that he isn't popular, but his avid fanbase is probably a whole lot smaller than any of the others, so all his fan interactions seem a whole lot comfier (specifically, at cons) than with any of the popular Doctors like Smith or Tennant.

But, of course, Colin's also standing next to him and nobody seems to give much of a shit about him either, but to be fair, his Doctor does have a certain reputation that probably makes him a bit more unpopular than the rest. which is a shame because sixie is great when given good material

I'd be losing my fucking mind if McGann walked into the room so casually like that.

>>87338363
Not that there's any photographic or written evidence of.

/who/ is dead

might have a job at a fish and chips shop lads

is my skin fucked? or can i save it

>>87332114
An RTD episode was on I take it?

which companion has the best tits? the only ones that i know we've seen are rose's, martha's and pancake's

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>>87342580
>he doesn't know

>>87339155
Idk McGann does have his fair share of fans who freak out lol. He is pretty popular at cons and a lot more relaxed and sociable than you'd expect. He even takes groups of fans out for dinner.

>>87338363
McGann and Eccleston have known eachother for yeaaaars. McGann's career might have stagnated but he was at the forefront of his generation and remains well-networked.

>>87337123
He was busy writing for TV around that time.

>>87343942
>McGann and Eccleston have known eachother for yeaaaars. McGann's career might have stagnated but he was at the forefront of his generation and remains well-networked.

Have they ever been in anything together?

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Oh it's a comin

>>87344343
I don't think they have actually. Mark McGann was in Let Him Have It with Eccleston though. Close enough ;).

>>87344461
It's already here

>>87344524
?

When does S11 filming start?

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What the fuck was her problem?

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GI RN

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What's his name again?

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Describe this photograph

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Describe this photograph.

>>87345182
A girl I want to fuck raw and Jenna Coleman

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name my band

>>87345355
Russell and the Hacks

>>87345355
99% white

>>87345355
The Plebians

>>87345355
The Ten Inches

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Ohhhh it's a comin

/who/ seems sleepy!

>>87345895
o.o
<.<
>.>
*leans closer to you*
*softly pets you*
nice to see you neo xD

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>>87345919

>>87345919
owo what is this

The soul bug fic really, really, really, really, really did not warrant its length

Also it rubs me the wrong way that catharticspurious put their Twitter handle above their fics, like they were advertising themselves through /who/

>>87346237
wait what?

the face of nard was pretty fun though, good work on that one

>>87345182
Pair of dumb cunts.

This is interesting

21 August: Capaldi says he's open to returning to the show in future (like anniversaries)

http://metro.co.uk/2017/08/21/doctor-whos-peter-capaldi-says-hes-open-to-returning-to-the-show-if-it-was-the-right-time-6868057/

>‘I love Doctor Who, so it’s great to be in it. But I think there comes a time… when you’ve gotta go, you’ve gotta go, and leave it behind and let it get on with itself.

>‘Maybe in some years’ time, I could pop up again. I’m quite happy to do that.’

>‘One doesn’t want to… it should never be a casual thing. It has to be special. That’s one of the things I love about Doctor Who – when it connects with its past, which it has an increasing amount of. When it touches its own past, it’s an electric moment. But if we all keep showing every season, it’s not!'

4th September: Capaldi is much more hesitant on the idea.

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/tv/2017-09-04/peter-capaldi-leaves-doctor-who-could-he-return/

>'I think when you should go, you should go. Even when I was a kid I believed [the Doctor] was this weird and wonderful thing, so if he kept showing up all the time in Big Finish or in multi Doctor stories he was more available.'

>'I don’t know. Maybe. But not for a while.'

Both times he points out that overdoing returns dulls the effect and magic of the show, but he seems much more generally down on the idea in the second interview (even specifically pointing out returning to Big Finish as not necessarily a positive thing). I imagine he likes the mystique around the first 3 Doctors more than the much greater 'presence' of some of the later ones.

My impression is that I think he would be open to anniversaries like the 60th if the script was very good, but he might honestly turn it down if he doesn't feel the story was great or served 12's character well. I don't see him particularly open to Big Finish. I don't think he'll do them. I don't think he'll even really consider it for a proper long while.

>>87346237
>>87346270
twitter.com/TheOutsideists

He has a Youtube too where he talks about politics in an antifa mask

>>87347216
sad but i see his point of view and honestly, id rather he didnt do big finish if he would just be getting standard fitton and briggs scripts, i'd rather keep the magic of him confined to his great era on TV yeah. its weird for me to argue this cause i normally love doctors going to BF but i actually get his POV cause his era is kinda different in how connected and focused his character was

>>87347243
that looks like a makeshift woolen cthulu mask to me rather than an antifa mask

>>87347297
>that looks like a makeshift woolen cthulu mask to me rather than an antifa mask
Oh yeah, you're right. That's really something

>>87347297
>but i actually get his POV cause his era is kinda different in how connected and focused his character was

Yeah, totally, there's no real spot they could jam a whole new characterisation journey for him, he flows on too too much between S8, S9, S10. There are certainly gaps they could add STORIES (misc adventures in S8 and S9, misc post S9 pre Nardole adventures, adventures with River, Nardole adventures, guarding the Vault years, misc S10 adventures, etc.) but there's no real gap they could add a whole new line of characterisation like they could for 6, 7, and 8. They could just do flashy fun audios like they do for 10, but I don't really see him interested in that idea, until perhaps many, many years later when we're onto the 14th Doctor or something and he would consider it just a bit of fun. But I'd be fine if he didn't even do that cause I do pretty much agree with what he's saying in a lot of ways.

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>Capaldi will die in your lifetime

>>87347388
Not if I kill myself first.
Checkmate, atheists.

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>waiting for shit trips be like

>>87347216
> I don't see him particularly open to Big Finish. I don't think he'll do them.
I think he'll do them, but not for a while. Maybe 3 or 4 years.

>>87347479
Don't shitpost with my waifu pls

>>87347485
They don't have the rights for Capaldi Who yet, the next rights negotiation is in 2020, and the fact he kind of specifically called them out makes me think it'll be longer than that, if it does end up happening, but we'll see.

>>87347517
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/image/1tXZQBRnp202EEL_mSv61g/

>>87347548
It's already out, there is no need to wait for shit trips volume 2

>>87347585
?

>>87347358
>Yeah, totally, there's no real spot they could jam a whole new characterisation journey for him
There's a wide-open space between Hell Bent and The Husbands of River Song.

>>87347627
I addressed that gap as a space for stories, but I don't think it works as any sort of meaningful space for new characterisation.

>>87347627
Though I'm open to your ideas if you were thinking of something.

>The Magician's Familiar
>The Witch's Apprentice
>Under the Flood
>Before the Lake
>The Girl Who Lived
>The Woman Who Died
>The Zygon Inversion
>The Zygon Invasion
>Sleep the Raven
>Face No More
>Heaven Bent
>Hell Sent

Would this make for a better S9?

>>87348129
Could you explain how the season would be altered?

>>87348199
It's just a shitpost anon

>>87348199
Dunno, just try to imagine that from the titles.

What will Doctor Who be like if Murray leaves? Would they be able to find someone else who can create such cohesive themes for the show or will the music become bland and forgettable?

Post your favourites:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-SBNgu1hO4

>>87348321
A S9 favourite of mine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvR7egrNokc

Marigold kino concentrated at
cytu
.be/r/marigold

Some of his motifs here http://doctorwhogeneral.wikia.com/wiki/Character_Themes_(Music)

There are plenty of other good composers, and I understand people liking Olafur Arnolds and wanting him to carry over from Broadchurch, but we'd be losing something really, really, really special if Murray left/wasn't brought back and the show lost its focus on consistent musical motifs.

>>87347794
I think there's a ton of room for characterization. For example between hell-bent and the husbands of River Song There Is A distinct growth in the doctors amount of empathy. There is also the little issue of when he starts picking up Venusian Aikido. But for the money, the first thing I would do if I got Peter Capaldi into a studio booth. What did the time Lords feel when their greatest hero showed up left them in chaos and ran off? How do you deal with a society that wants to love someone but physically cannot show it because of who they are? How does the doctor try and teach a society empathy that he is been running from his entire life. And at the end of the day what kind of threat they're still me to Gallifrey with the end of the time War without dragging up Daleks?

Anyone have PDFs of those Black Archive books? They're not in the book MEGA, and I'm a little interested in how these guys can write 20,000 words about a single story.

>>87349617
>>87349617
>>87349617

New

>>87349627
That OP isn't even Doctor Who.
Fuck off, we aren't using that thread.

>>87349662
Too late, Neo has posted there, it's canon now

>>87349675
I can still delet post

>>87349675
I don't care, we aren't using it.
This thread hasn't even reached bump limit yet.

>>87349687
Please do it.
Reporting the thread would also be appreciated.

>>87349687
Dont bother

>>87349727
>>87349734
Mixed messages, wat do?

Also why would you report it?? It's a shit OP but it didn't break any rules and you don't want to cause /who/ related troubles on the board, if you don't want to use it, just let it die. Thread splintering is the thing that annoys the powers that be on /tv/.

>>87349770
>>>/global/rules/6
>The quality of posts is extremely important to this community. Contributors are encouraged to provide high-quality images and informative comments.

If enough people report a post for being shit, it will get deleted.

>>87349824
My point is that drawing unneeded drama and attention onto /who/ isn't a good idea. Yes it's a terrible OP, but the thread will go on as always. It's not worth causing trouble over. Constantly ongoing generals are tolerated, it's best not to push it with drama like that.

>>87349770
It's just one anon REEEing, don't sweat it.

>>87349861
Caring about posting quality is not "causing trouble". If anything, /got/ was banned because it allowed itself to go to complete shit.

>>87349867
t. OP

>>87349662
>>87349696
>>87349727
>>87349824
>>87349901
>This autism

>>87349901
>Caring about posting quality is not "causing trouble"
You know that's not what I said. What I said is reporting the OP of a thread that's getting used, with the general going on, is asking for unnecessary trouble.

It's a bad OP. We get those. And we go on. If you try and report every bad OP you will just be fighting an endless battle you can't win, and getting the janitors annoyed by /who/ in the process. Leave it alone and just use the thread as normal. Make the next thread yourself, and give it a good OP, if you want to be a good change for the community.

>>87349924
t. OP again

>>87349951
> If you try and report every bad OP
Slippery slope. I'm not reporting "every bad OP", I'm reporting one of the worst OPs we've ever had that isn't even related to Doctor Who. And no, janitors don't get annoyed at you reporting bad posts once in a while.

>Make the next thread yourself, and give it a good OP
This thread was made at 300 posts. Should I make one at 290 posts to avoid it? Again, that's what led to /got/ being banned.

>>87350075
>This thread was made at 300 posts. Should I make one at 290 posts to avoid it?
yes, thats obviously what neocloister is arguing, you got it, hes obviously suggesting you do something like that. great job

>>87350075
you are arguing in a dead thread with one person. 6 ips are happily chattering away in the new thread. no one cares. /who/ doesnt support you. leave it alone.

>>87350120
>>87350150
t. OP