I think we can all agree Beetlejuice was Tim Burton's best

yup

>prime Winona
>prime Keaton
>prime Alec Baldwin
>good humor and effects
How do other movies even compete?

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>>87199532
>forgetting Geena Davis
I know she's really not conventionally hot but I think she was a doll.

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>>87199482
>>87199482
It's great but sometimes the humor falls flat and the tone is a little inconsistent. It's hard to take the threat of Beetlejuice seriously when nothing of consequence ever happens. I think Ed Wood is his most solid, flawless movie.

>>87199731
There's a very real threat of them fucking up their afterlife.

>>87199619
but she's like 6 feet tall

>>87199619
yee

>>87199619
You're right, I forgot about her. She's a qt but her performance never really left an impression on me.

>>87199766
Perfect for those who are also 6 feet or over.

That scene where their faces are coming off and shit TERRIFIED me as a child.

>>87199766
there is nothing wrong with tall.

>>87199797
pls no bully

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I've always been more a fan of Edward Scissorhands
I love the creepy "perfect neighborhood" atmosphere mixed with all the surreal music and the great performances by everyone.

>>87199812
Winona's for those less than 6ft. Or you can try for Catherine O'Hara, she wasn't bad looking in that.

>>87199766
manlet pls

>>87199797
I am over six feet but like tiny cute girls like ASR and other femlets. There's just something so feminine about tiny grills.

>>87199731
agreed. Ed Wood is his best

>>87199822
This seems fair I like my jewfu more in Beetlejuice but this is a better overall movie imo

>>87199731
>It's hard to take the threat of Beetlejuice seriously when nothing of consequence ever happens.
>injured and almost killed Lydia's father
>outright set on raping a 16 year old from the start
>caused enough havoc in the 10 minutes he was set free to drive home the point that he is too chaotic to deal with
>murdered Charles's business contacts from New York
He did save Adam and Barbara from being exorcised though, so really the theme of the show is how dangerous the living are since they almost condemned Adam and Barbara to purgatory just for to entertain some friends.

>>87199619
Literally best wife

Why don't children's characters say fuck anymore, /tv/?

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>>87199619
>that bathing suit scene in Earth Girls Are Easy

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I can't think of a more natural and adorable young married couple in cinema than the Maitlands. They are so fucking sweet, even in death.

Burton Kino Ranking

The Golden Age:
>Beetlejuice
>Edward Scissorhands

God Tier:
>Ed Wood
>Batman Returns

Good Tier:
>Batman
>Big Fish

----------- Q U A L I T Y D R O P ----------
>EVERYTHING ELSE

>>87199766
That is my fetish.

>>87200260
>no Pee Wee
what the fuck?

>>87199918
But those are almost all done for comedic effect. Beetlejuice never really feels threatening or scary. It just seems like he's fucking with people for fun. I was never scared of Beetlejuice as a kid. I don't know... I get that he's wacky but it kind of kills the tension.

>>87200509
its a dark comedy not a drama you sperg.

Edward Scissorhands is objectively his best film

>>87199822
>>87199482
The problem is he's been trading on his early quirkiness ever since. He simply hasn't got the vision he once had but you can see him trying hard to force the process in new projects like the Alice movies, it just doesn't land any more.

TOP BURTON FILMS.....

ED WOOD
BEETLEJUICE
SWEENEY TODD

TOP POON BURTON PLUNDERED....

LISA MARIE
EVA GREEN
HELENA BONHAM CARTER

!!!FACT!!!

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>>87201051

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>>87199532
>>prime Alec Baldwin

I LOVE BATMAN BUT KEATON WAS THE WRONG BEETLEJUICE ACTOR FOR BRUCE WAYNE!!! BALDWIN WAS BORN TO PLAY BATMAN!!!FACT!!!

>>87201136
I love the Burton Batman movies with Keaton, but I've always been curious what it would have been like with Baldwin instead.

>>87200651
>He simply hasn't got the vision he once had
He stopped doing drugs.

>>87201136
he wouldve been the best batman
now cast a perfect late 80s Justice League

I saw Bettlejuice five times at the theater back in 1988 when I was 10. It was a Horror Comedy but had some really nice surrealism and that fucking sweet Elfman score. Just a fucking great, entertaining movie that's non-stop FUN FUN FUCKING FUN!!!FACT!!! https://youtu.be/NaCYL04Kd8g

>>87200260
>Winona
this is the normies list i ever seen
you probably watched youtube shows and this how you know about these movies

>>87201267
>Winona
didnt mean to add Winona to greentext.
idk why it appeared.

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>>87201208
>Barry Allen is the Flash!

>>87201267
>me no talk good

>>87200538
>its a dark comedy not a drama you sperg

NO, FUCKING NOOOOO, I AGREE, HOW CAN I TAKE THE THREAT SERIOUSLY UNLESS BEETLEJUICE TAKES OFF MRS. DEETZ'S HEAD, STICKS HIS ELONGATED, SERPENT SHAPED COCK INTO HER SEVERED ESOPHAGUS AND SPINS IT AROUND WHILE HE'S CUMING OUT OF HER MOUTH, NOSE AND EARS?!?FACT!!!

>>87199482

you misspelled pee wee's nig adventure

>>87200579
I think Ed Wood is his best, but Edward Scissorhands is his most defining. There's really nothing like it.

THE BEETLEJUICE CARTOON WAS ALSO CLASSIC 80'S FUCK PIE!!! YOU SURE AS FUCK DON'T SEE SHIT LIKE THIS ON TV TODAY FOR THE SOFT SHELLED AUTISMO'S GROWING UP TODAY!!! NO WONDER EVERYONE BORN AFTER 1990 IS SUCK A FUCKING PUSSY ASS LITTLE BITCH!!!FACT!!! https://youtu.be/EO1x632BzSQ

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>>87201290
>Robert Redford as Aquaman!

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son of a bitch

>>87201420
Jesus, you're a faggot
fact

>>87201420
OH AND ALYSON COURT WHO VOICED LYDIA ON BEETLEJUICE IS ALSO CLAIRE REDFIELD IN THE RESIDENT EVIL SERIES!!!FACT!!! https://youtu.be/Tyy2XiREahQ

>>87201420
>>87201328
Stop it. You have neither the charisma or the insight that REI has, so you just look stupid.

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>>87201467
ugh yeah he's with Eva Green now

>>87201560
dude wtf
how does he do it

>>87201481
MILLENNIAL FAGGOT DETECTED!!! HOW'S IT FEEL KNOWING THAT YOU MISSED OUT ON EVERY SIGNIFICANT DECADE AND NOW WALLOW IN SHIT LIKE THE PIGS YOU ARE WHILE SWIMMING IN HISTORY'S WAKE LIKE SOO MANY LOGS OF SHIT IN A TRUCK STOP TOILET BOWL?!?FACT!!!

>>87201610
rich jew

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>>87199482
Sorry, but this is better.

>>87201610
DIRECTS BILLION DOLLAR HIT ALICE IN WONDERLAND!!! GREEN IS WELL KNOWN BUT NOT A-LIST, SO SHE'LL FUCK ANY BETA ORBITER DIRECTOR LIKE BURTON WHO'LL CAST HER!!!FACT!!!

>>87201628
80s cartoons were the worst

>>87201610
>>87201638
Big dick

>>87201638
>Burton
>jew
Gonna need a source on that

>>87201654
KEATON KEEPS IT FROM BEING AN ALL TIME CLASSIC!!! NICHOLSON COULD HAVE STOOD TO LOSE 20 POUNDS WHICH WOULD HAVE ALSO HELPED!!! ANYWHO, I REMEMBER SEEING BATMAN IN 89 WHEN I WAS 11 AND HAVE TOTAL RECALL OF THE EXPERIENCE!!! THOSE OF YOU NOT OLD ENOUGH TO KNOW WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND THE HYPE THAT MOVIE GENERATED!!! IT FELT LIKE AN EVENT THAT NO OTHER MOVIE I'VE EVER SEEN COULD EVEN BEGIN TO MATCH!!!FACT!!! https://youtu.be/ulOLYnOthIw

>>87201768
Did you collect the cards before the movie came out? I did

>>87201689
GO WATCH ANIME SHIT LIKE POKEMON AND DRAGON BALL Z, FAGGOT, I'LL STICK WITH GOD-TIER 80'S CARTOONS LIKE TRANSFORMERS AND G.I. JOE WHICH PRODUCED TWO OF THE BEST ANIMATED MOVIES EVER MADE!!!FACT!!!
https://youtu.be/GOhnKIVLzOw
https://youtu.be/4Ah2I166f_U

>>87201768
>>87201654
Returns was better. deal with it.
You can't beat Danny Devito as penguin and Michelle Pfeiffer as cat woman, better casting does not exist.

Can we please stop using the word 'surrealism' towards things that seems absurd or bizarre?
Burton has never used surrealism in his work, he was influenced by german expressionism.
German expressionism and surrealism are nothing alike.

>>87199532
>prime Keaton
Has that man ever not been in his prime?

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>>87201868
Blow me

>>87201797
GOT EVERY FUCKING THING ASSOCIATED WITH THAT FUCKING MOVIE!!! CARDS, MAKING OF MAGAZINE, COMIC BOOK TIE-IN, THE NINTENDO GAME ETC...!!! THAT WAS SUCH A COMFY TIME AND MADONNA WAS MY GO TO FAP MATERIAL WHILE THE "EXPRESS YOURSELF" VIDEO WAS DIRECTED BY DAVID FINCHER AND MAKES ME WISH HE DID A BATMAN MOVIE!!!FACT!!! https://youtu.be/GsVcUzP_O_8

>>87201898
BATMAN RETURNS IS LIKE BATMAN & ROBIN WHERE A DIRECTOR GOES TOO FAR INTO THEIR OWN PERSONAL AESTHETICS AND RIGHT UP THEIR OWN ASSES!!! BOTH MOVIES ARE SHIT!!!FACT!!!

>>87201902
GERMAN EXPRESSIONISM IN TERMS OF ART DIRECTION BUT SURREAL IN TONE!!! ANYONE ELSE THINK BURTON SHOULD HAVE DIRECTED "IT" BY STEPHEN KING?!?FACT!!!

>>87202082
Settle down Crispin. Surrealism is a specific movement. In order to be surrealist you had to follow specific dogmas.
Saying something is surreal in tone makes no sense, what you mean is absurd, bizarre or strange.
It should be a requirement that you at least know art history 101 before discussing movies on here.

>>87202036
The first one was a let down. Jack's Joker was lame. With Returns he redeemed himself.

>>87200260
>any of those movies
>better than Big Fish
kys

>>87201961
https://youtu.be/wcinzmfZeCc

>>87202176
>too dumb to know yourself is one word

>>87202176
fucking big fish shouldve dropped the billy crudup character what a huge piece of shit

This is the best Burton movie. The height of him using his "style" and his creative output. After this he just turns into a hot topic recycler.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN7YPq8i4w0

>>87202284
No, this is him jumping the shark

>>87202036
Returns has far more interesting villains that have real motivations, a darker tone without being too dark, fun and unique action scenes that add to the plot. It's just a better movie. One of the rare sequels that turns out better then the original.

>>87202310
No that's Big Fish and Planet of the Apes. That's when he is surrounded exclusively by yes-men that doesn't tell him to hold back. Sleepy Hollow is as good as he gets.

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>>87199482
You mean Batman Returns

i like all of burton's films. they are a little samey, but i enjoy them

>>87202336
The only thing good about it is when he falls asleep during the audio commentary

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>>87202140
Not that guy, but 'surreal' is different than absurd, bizarre or strange.
Not meaning to mince words or argue definitions here, but i've always felt like there was this scale of things, a scale of normality, I guess.
You've got 'normal' on one end, and 'absolutley fucking whaaaaat' on the other, with our terms in the middle somewhere, describing how fucked up the thing or situation is.

>>87202339
Oh god, that clip made me laugh so much it hurt. What a moron.

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>>87201433
>Diane Lane as Wonder Woman

I thought Big Fish was really good.

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>>87202405

>>87202284
>>87202310
>No, this is him jumping the shark

I AGREE!!! DEPP RUINS THIS FILM WHEN SOMEONE LIKE DAVID HYDE PIERCE SHOULD HAVE PLAYED ICHABOD CRANE WHILE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A NICE IN-JOKE FOR FRASIER FANS!!! BURTON OVER DID THINGS LIKE THE STUPID WAY THE HORSEMAN'S FACE LOOKS AND CRANES TOOLS AND GLASSES!!! YES, SLEEPY HOLLOW WAS THE MOMENT WHEN WE LOST THE REAL BURTON AFTER MARS ATTACKS WHICH WAS THE LAST TIME HE EXPRESSED HIS TRUE SELF!!!FACT!!! https://youtu.be/p6rYhQDQ4to

>>87201328
>Umm one ticket for that please..

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>>87202405
>William Peterson as Martin Manhunter

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>>87200260

>No Mars Attacks

You fucked up big time, son.

>>87202868
MARS ATTACKS SHOULD HAVE BEEN A GORY, BLOODTHIRSTY HORROR MOVIE!!!FACT!!!

Love Beetlejuice, Edward Scissorhands, Ed Wood, and think Batman Returns and Nightmare Before Christmas are pretty good. Can't remember Sleepy Hollow, must rewatch it. Is the Pee Wee movie really worth watching? I'm not interested in the Pee Wee character at all and don't see how I would like the movie

>>87199482
NICE FUCKIN MODEL

>>87203639
*HONK HONK*

>>87203532
I felt the same as you, but its a really good movie completely unrelated the to the character of Peewee, its sort of a "what happens when you take this children's entertainer and have him deal with the real world" sorta deal and its pretty kino.

>>87199482
This wasn't nearly as good as they said it was. Had an alright time with it I guess.