Memes aside, this is actually an amazing film. It shows the

>>87130595
YAS KING SLAY
BASED HITLER HE DINDU NUFFIN

It was a particularly moving film.
I felt bad for the Hitler Youth and Goebbel's kids.

Scenes from Downfall were used in a Puchim@s parody series on Niconico in 2013.

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>and then you figure out hitler had a small pigeon like brain like every other homo in german high command and they couldn't figure out that US jews would support russian jews and open up a 2 front war and lose it

bunch of fucking retards. nazi germany must have been the most retarded country on earth at the time, oh wait 2nd most retarded, most retarded were japs.

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And the Third Reich, I shappose that's off the table as well?

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He murdered 6 million Jewish people

>>87130875
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>>87130595
You can be human, ordinary, love your country and still be a monster.

>>87130940
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust

>>87130875
6 million Jews and 7-8 million people of other ethnicities. And that's not including all people who died as the result of his war.

>>87130595
Wut? It shows Hitler as a nervous wreck that can hardly function as a normal human beeing

>>87130990
Anon I have bad news...

http://www.jta.org/2017/01/31/news-opinion/united-states/remember-the-11-million-why-an-inflated-victims-tally-irks-holocaust-historians

http://www.jta.org/2017/01/31/news-opinion/united-states/remember-the-11-million-why-an-inflated-victims-tally-irks-holocaust-historians

>>87130722
Yup. I love the fact that all /pol/tards consider him a great leader when all he's done was just borrowing hella lotta money to afford his social reform, then stealing Jewish/creating labour camps money to support his budget and then just attacking every neighboring country to steal their shit and enslave their citizens. Nazi Germany was literally African warlord """country""" tier.

>>87131081
It's inflated because Jews do not consider other victims as part of the holocaust. They are not wrong, Jews were obviously the main target.

>>87130990
>>87130978
>>87130875

Actually he just interned them. The vast majority died from disease, typhus, malnutrition, allied bombing, killed by soviets etc. There were no gas chambers and the number is vastly inflated.

>>87131159
Coming from the amerilard whose country has been at war for as long as it exists. maybe 20 years no war in total.
fuck you.

t. german

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>>87131027
Do you have any idea how many drugs he was on and the sheer level of stress he must have been under?

>>87130595
YAS KIIIIING SLAYY

WE DINDU NUFFIN NIGGAAAAAAAA

>>87131027
>End of the war
>copious health problems
>on the weirdest kind of serums his private doctor mixed himself
>country he lived for getting shelled all around him

Nervous wreck.

You fucking larping american pseudo commies make me sick.

>>87130875
God bless him

>>87131532
What did the SS court mean by this?

>The accused shall not be punished because of the actions against the Jews as such. The Jews have to be exterminated and none of the Jews that were killed is any great loss. Although the accused should have recognized that the extermination of the Jews was the duty of Kommandos which were set up especially for this purpose, he should be excused for considering himself to have the authority to take part in the extermination of Jewry himself.

And what about this?

>Imbeciles, idiots, cripples and sick people have to be removed from the camp within a short time by liquidation to unburden the camp. But this measure has insofar complications as, according to the order from the RSHA, the Poles have to die of a natural death contrary to the measures applied on the Jews.

>>87130595
What really stuck with me is the sense of impending doom/dread that the film was able to capture.

It really deserves better than to just be remembered for le epic "Hitler yells about Mario Kart" memes

>>87131532
wrong, there were gas chambers

>>87131329
Did you read the article? There's a clear admission that the widely quoted 5 million figure for non Jewish victims was made up by a jew. And you still accept the other number?

Hitler was a faggot

>>87131581
Hau ab Schwüchtel.

>>87130595
>watches one movie
>WOAH EVERYTHING I KNEW WAS FALSE HE'S A HERO NOW DISREGARD EVERY SINGLE OTHER DOCUMENTARY AND BOOK EVER THIS IS THE REAL SHIEEEET

>>87131532
Do you actually believe this, you retard?

>>87130875
>6 gorillion

>>87131647
Says the guy who unironically LARPs as a Nazi on a fucking Vietnamese basket weaving site

>>87131703
People like you seriously believe that the master of propaganda aka russian jews didnt overexxagerated and forged quite a few documents and pictures?

Come on man, im glad the nazis lost but jesus you people eat any anti german propaganda up like its nothing, but question everything else a hundred times.
Doesnt this make you think? doesnt it make you think that Nazi Germany is demonized so extremely hard even tho theres plenty of worse regimes (nazi germany was childs play compared to what the saudis are doing for example)

I mean, seriously bros.

>>87130875
Based Hitler.

>>87131777
>(((Documentary)))
>(((book)))

>>87130875
M-Muh six gorillion goyim! Haven't you ever wondered why the Jews have been forcibly removed from nearly EVERY Kingdom/Nation at one point or another?

>>87131817
Im not? whats makes you think that?
Im actually german unlike 99% of the larping amis here. And in no way a nazi. I just smell bullshit from a mile away.

>>87131856
Epic response /pol/brah! Hail kekistan hail kek

Ganz is fucking great underrated actor.

>>87130595
Have you actually seen it? It shows his army slaughtering their own troops, leaving elderly women to die and lynching random people. The movie is not supposed to portray Hitler in a good light.

>>87131897
Question everthing.... BUT NOT EVERYTHING!

thats you. When it comes to Germany you people have a really big blockade in your head it seems.

>>87131711
I accept a higher number. 7-8 million non-Jewish victims. Including 2.7 million Poles, 3 million Soviet POWs, 500.000 Serbs, 1.5 million Ukrainians and Belarussians and many others.

>>87131818
>masters of propaganda
Poles? Because they were the first ones mentioning the holocaust.

he was a spectacular failure and did more harm then good to germany

>>87132007
You take on the jews, you pay the price.

Goyim need to know their place.

>>87131928
Question everything but not that one documentary in the OP and every single contrarian piece of information you find... that's teh redpilled way

>>87132007
This. He had any chance to make something great.
His own delusion kept him from that.

It should really tell you something that a lot of fierce natsoc followers wanted hitler dead or gone. And the allies restrained from an early assassination attempt because a germany without hitler wouldve been way more scary and they would have built a cult surrounding hitler.

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I thought Hitler was a pretty rad guy until I learned about his tactical blunders.
Then I just felt bad for the German people who believed in him.

>>87131581
Who the fuck cares, he's still not very wrong. Hitler was a shit leader and had tons of luck during his tenure.

t. german

>>87130722
Actually they assumed about 150 divisions at the start of the war when they really had around 300.

Those are cherrypicked estimates from the lowest possible estimate at the start of the war vs the reality at the end.

>>87131081
>FTA: “I said to him, ‘Simon, you are telling a lie,’” Bauer recalled in an interview Tuesday. “He said, ‘Sometimes you need to do that to get the results for things you think are essential.’”

what the actual fuck, they're not even hiding it anymore

>>87132040
No. Question absolutely everything. It's hard but doable.

>>87132084
You don't know anything. He did amazing things at the start but then the British and Jews began plotting the destruction of Germany.

>>87132103
Jews gonna jew. What's new?

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Nazi Germany was the original Beta Uprising

>>87131899
Is there a retard anywhere who thinks this movie portrays Hitler as a good man or great leader? This is arguably the only good film about Hitler and by far one of the best, most realistic WWII films. It shows Hitler like he really was, not as caricature but very evil man nonetheless.

>>87132084
>t. german
Funny that you think this makes you an authority on the subject. Didn't realize we had historians among us.

>>87132117
Stormfags don't question everything. They question all Nazi documents, all witness accounts, Nazi testimonies and demography research. They don't question Nazi propaganda pamphlets, articles from Der Sturmer and holocaust revisionists who usually aren't even historians.
Some stormfags are even better. They believe in everything they read on neo-Nazi sites and denier Youtube videos, which creates bizarre concoctions such as "Danzig massacre".

>>87132206
he wasn't evil, just misguided

>>87132255
I am not interested in making this about people. Only about things and facts. Most people will believe what makes them feel good about themselves, unless absolutely necessary. If you have an open mind and genuinely try to find the truth then you're better than stormfags and the mindless lemmings.

>>87130595
I'd actually really appreciate a film following Hitler's life if the emphasis was on how any nobody could become the biggest monsters off their generation if given the power to act. Maybe people would be a little more hesitant to inject self-righteous violence into their politics if they were forced to confront the parallels.

>>87132355
I tend to believe historians because I know how they work. Stormfags lie way too often.

>>87132206
It shows the person he was but doesn't show any "human side" to him. It shows him alone in his bunker rambling about how his generals and people betrayed him and that everyone else is to blame.

>>87130722
Hitler - when we consider him a first time commander and military leader - was actually quite good at being Chief Commander of Wehrmacht.

Based on documents and reports from the soldiers to officers to command - basically data that flowed through Chain of Command - most of the miscalculations Hitler did was because his General Staff was misinforming him (despite correct information reaching GS).

There are some real mistakes Hitler did with like not listening to Zeitzler in 1943 w/r/t Stalingrad and East front in general which can be credited to Hitler being stubborn / persistent.

>>87130875
How much of those died to a program intent to kill ALL jews is debatable. Camps were bombed, diseases ran wild in there.

>>87132140
Sure he did, he was a great politician. But that is it.

>>87132245
It doesn't. But the retard did the same "t. german" shit as if that mattered in the slightest.

>>87130763
oh gosh, no more!

>>87132100
Stalin kept his reserves around Ural and wouldn't even allow them to be used if Hitler would've taken Moscow in Op. Barbarossa.

Yes, the capability of Soviet Union scared him. Wehrmacht high command, nearly all of them were surprised at the mount of divisions, tanks and planes Soviets had.

>>87132206
>Very evil.
What does that make British Empire and its leaders? My point: moral high ground is a joke of an argument (and is only propaganda) when it comes to geopolitics.

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>>87130875
“any people who has been persecuted for two thousand years must be doing something wrong.”

>>87130595
I like the part in which Hitler and Goebbels basically stop caring about the German nation. They voted them into power once so they get to decide their life and death. The movie didn't make Hitler into comic book villain but shows some of the more disturbing implications of the Nazi rule.

German people should celebrate their Nazi era instead of burying it. It's a part of their country's history. Be proud of your war crimes.

>>87132530
>How much of those died to a program intent to kill ALL jews is debatable.
It's really not. At least 4-5 million were either shot or gassed. The rest maybe died in different way.

>>87132714
Every other country is proud of their war crimes: see America, Turkey, Serbia, Japan

Only Germany feels bad over it. Germans should just be like "yeah, we did it, problem?" and then nuke pissrael

>>87131818
stalin killed jews and the soviet union had 6 million of them. they all immigrated to the US. Also, BLACKED.COM was created by a russian jew, so was GOOGLED.COM

>>87132506
You can be put in jail if you write a scholarly book that contradicts the official version. The only Historians who get published and praised are by definition those who agree with that official version.
It's «current century» and scholars are still put in jail for their work. I wouldn't be as generous with my trust if I were you.

>>87132941
You can still write about it in many countries. Of course real historians know you guys are full of shit which was fully proved during the Irving v Lipstadt trial.

>>87132799
Most of these war crimes are not actually being acknowledged. Germany is the only country that acknowledged and apologized for them. And not just in a formal manner, germans are literally drilled to become leftists and hate nationalists.
This is because it was controlled by three different countries, so of course you'd be reminded by those losses and make it so that it will never happen again.
And that ain't bad. But it is far too extreme with it. Germany basically still lives in the past.

>>87130875
>literally a picture of a fisherman
kek

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>>87132799
I don't think so, nazi piece of shit

>>87130595
>drew out the war to punish his people for losing and ordered his own countries infrastructures destroyed before he killed himself like a coward
>loved his country

hmm

>>87130875
And?

>>87133010
>you can still write about it in many countries
What kind of excuse is that? Going to prison for writing a book about a historical event should make your skin crawl, whether you agree with the conclusions or not. Also, I know there are laws that would put you I jail for questioning any aspect of the official version in France, Germany, Austria, the UK. I don't know about the other countries, but I think it's extraordinary to hear that putting people, scholars even in prison for their work is OK because you can publish your work in Guatemala

>>87132674
>They voted them into power once so they get to decide their life and death.
Neither of those guys were voted into power, you moron.

>>87133129
Holocaust revisionists aren't historians, they are propagandists. Promotion of totalitarian ideologies is illegal in many countries.

>>87133254
This is literally what they said in the movie whether they meant themselves specifically or not.
German nation stopped being useful so it can die for them. And for that alone they deserve to be disavowed

>>87133129
It's not illegal in the UK.

>>87133335
Despite Downfall being a good iflm you sdhouldn't take it as a document.

>>87133292
OK. Thank you for your opinion.

>>87130990

How DARE you!?
It was at least 6 GORILLION jews that got made into soap bars and lampshades!
My grandpa got gassed when he was only 6!
You owe Israel money for this offense, goyim...

>>87133494
Do you think you're funny?

>>87133292
It doesn't kvetch you the wrong way You can't deny the kikecaust but Holodomor and Armenian Genocides can be denied without punishment?

>>87130595
>just an ordinary man
come on mate

>>87133292
This film is based on a book written by such "propagandist" (Hitler's War by David Irving) . One of the foremost experts on Nazi Germany. A German Speaking "propagandist" who wrote best selling books on Dresden and Churchill .

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>>87130875
>mfw people actually believe this

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>>87130875
(you) did good today

>>87133523
You can't deny it in some countries.

>>87133559
Irving isn't "one of the foremost experts on Nazi Germany" and never was.

>This film is based on a book written by such "propagandist" (Hitler's War by David Irving)
Source?

>>87133520

FUNNY!?
THE DEATH OF 60 GORILLION JEWS IS FUNNY TO YOU GOY?
ITS LIKE IT'S THE SHOAH ALL OVER AGAIN

>>87130595
It portrays him as an extraordinary idiot

>>87133494
>>87133795
Okay, we get it, dude. You do not like Jewish people. ha ha ha

>>87133748
https://youtu.be/fdxTsWXZdFc
From known antisemitic fanatic Christopher Hitchens (1 minute in)

>>87133397
I know Goebbels's lines are taken from his journal.
Also people in Berlin were being executed for refusing to fight.

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>>87130875
>uses picture of a fisherman
>people still respond

Well done m8.

>>87133955
>Christopher Hitchens
Not a historian. Even in this program he is called "controversial".

>>87134135
>Christopher Hitchens opinion doesn't matter
>the TV host agrees with me
OK now I know you're slightly confused

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hmmmmmm

bad goyim hitler was a twisted fucking psycopath

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If Nazism is based on the idea that germans are the superiour type of human, why did they lose? Is that not the ultimate indication that no, the nazis were wrong?

>>87134275
Is he an expert on WW2? The trial proved that Irving and his works are biased and completely unreliable. And even before that most historians described him as biased.

>>87134485
And it's true. Irving is not very reliable. He uses the sources selectively and sometimes makes things up (in his book about Sikorski for example to use a non-Nazi related example).

But he debunked Hitler's diaries.

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>>87130595
>"...who loved his country"
>he literally told his generals the population could go burn in hell for failing to fulfill his delusions of final victory
But let's not kid ourselves. This is a shit-posting thread on a shit-posting board and getting a reaction out of people is the only thing that holds off the boredom for another 5 minutes.

>>87130595
no it doesnt hahahahahahahahahha

>>87134645
Hitler would be kind to his own people if they were obedient and if he was winning.
Fair weather fuhrer.

>>87130875
>fisher of men

>>87132174
>this is the perfect aryan ubermensch

>>87131805
Anyone above a single digit IQ believes that.

>>87131647
The true mark of a good national leader is not starting wars that end with your country destroyed and invaded.

Hitler was a megalomaniac who essentially destroyed himself and his nation through his own hubris.

>>87133468
It's a fact, you mongoloid.

I thought you people were against moral relativism/postmodernism?

>>87134415
12 mangy dogs can kill a lion

>>87134605
>Irving is not very reliable.
Thats putting it fucking mildly.

There's a reason no sane people take you types seriously, by the way.

Can you figure out what it is?

>>87131532
Everything in this post is a lie.

>>87137408
Exact opposite is true.

>>87137802

>No true Historian : the post
>is a fact
Yeah, I am stupid...

>>87137807
But the lion knows to attack when it is sure to kill its prey. The dogs don't attack the lion.

>>87137992
You are stupid.

You're a fucking imbecile. If only you could see that.

>>87130595
Just a great man who loved his country.

ftfy

>>87134415
The best soldiers in the world vs three empires with almost unlimited man power and resources still aren't going to win

>>87138239
Then why did the most intelligent and superior race do such a thing????

>>87138239
>>87138044

>>87130722
Nice Nihonophobia, Paki Ackmed.

>>87133900
o vey i love the jews my faddah is a jew ill have you know and he didn't die in the gas chambers at auswitchz before giving birth to me for nothing dumb goy ohhhhhhhh i'm havina flashback heahhhhh ohhhhh noooo ill see you in court stinky goyim ILL SEE YOU IN COURT I SAID

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>>87130722
ば~かw

>>87138443
xD

>>87138273
England and France declared war not the other way around. They turned a minor border dispute with Poland into a world war.

>>87138545
Do you understand the concept of an alliance

>>87138545
>The USSR attacked Nazi Germany

>>87130959
I'm not a monster; I'm just ahead of the curve

>>87130875
Only mistake he didn't kill them all

>>87138534
THIS IS SLANDAH I DEMAND THIS MAN BE ARRESTED FOR HATE CRIMES AGAINST THE JEWISH PEOPLE AND THE STATE OF ISRAEL RECEIVE REPERATIONS FROM HIS FAMILY FOR THE NEXT 40 YEARS I DEMAND IT YOU HEAR ME THIS IS A HATE CRIME YOU FILTHY ANTI-ZIONIST HOW DARE YOU SAY SOMETHING SO VILE TO ME