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Anyone else feel like this entire plotline was a waste of time?

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Anyone else feel like this entire plotline was a waste of time?
The last episode doesn't even make sense in retrospect the way Aya was threatening Sansa when no one was watching.
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>>87101632
Even plebbit thinks so.
And if the can figure out something is bad, it must be incredibly terrible
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>>87101632
SANNNNNNNNSA
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>>87101632
they had to kill him off, otherwise his fans (do they exist?) would wonder where'd he go
be glad they gave him as little screentime as they did
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Honesty this whole season is a huge red flag. Rushing through 7 espiosides, literally forcing the Danny and Jon romance, the meeting which was just a total waste of time, the horrible time wrapping, the way the NK acquires the dragon, the whole thing was shit. I'm still I'm missing plenty more but if next season is this bad I'm done with the show
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>>87101632
I think Arya threatening Sansa was supposed to be them putting on a show for CIA, since he has spies everywhere. But the show didn't make any sort of effort to explain it that way, so it comes across as messy inconsistent writing.
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>>87101833
But why would they need to trick him?
Why the games?
Just bring him to the council chamber and murder him like they did. It's not like they were waiting to see if we would really betray them?
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>>87101632
BUT they showed Lf lurking in the shadows one time, which means he is ALWAYS watching. Don't you get it? They had to act this way the entire time for their keikkaku (this means plan) to work.
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>>87101632
I shuppose life ish off the table?
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I would have preferred another beheading, those seem to be written competently.
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>>87101877
Sansa needed him to expose himself trying to turn Arya and her against each other or something. Idk, the writers are just hacks.
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>>87101877
>But why would they need to trick him?
They were tricking the audience
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>>87101833
>>87101877
I think the sis fighting was real and sansa didn't really catch on until her and LFs little game.
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>>87101632
Why didn't be GTFO as soon as Bran told him he knew all his secrets?
Like, he should have left immediately. He's surrounded by people he's tricked and Bran can tell them how.
Nah, better stay for Shansha
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In your opinion how did he suppose to die?
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Why didn't Littlefinger implicate Sansa into the murder of Lysa?
Why didn't Royce question why Sansa had lied about Lysa's death in the Eyrie?
Why did the tribunal accept the letter that Lysa sent to Catelyn (which was burned), Bran witnessing LF threatening Ned (he wasn't in the KL at the time so no one can confirm this happened), and that LF is the owner of the dagger if the only people who could confirm it are dead (like Catelyn)?
Why didn't anyone in the trial care about the lack of physical evidence and blatant use of hearsay and rumors?
Why is the allegation of conspiring against Ned a big deal? He worked for the throne, he had no choice but be complicit of their schemes.
Why didn't Littlefinger trigger trial by combat?
Why didn't Littlefinger ask to take the black?
Why is everyone ok with the Starks violating guests rights and murdering a defenseless man without due process?
Why did no one had an issue when Arya (who did not pass the sentence) execute Littlefinger? I thought that was Northern tradition.
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>>87102252
Probably at like 90 with a mouth on his dick
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>>87102252
He gets attacked by a peasant mugger while riding. They don't know even know who he is. They just stab him and take his gold.

Here's your "chaosh", Petyr
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>>87102079
Thats the right answer
its possible to trick the characters and not the viewers.
its also possible to trick the character and also the viewers.
DnD took it to the next level and tricked the viewers without tricking the character.
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>>87102320
Everyone knew they were breaking the rules, but Baelish was a cunt and no one liked him.
So they let it happen
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>>87102320
You're overcomplicating things. Past a certain age, a man without a family can be a bad thing.
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>>87102383
>Narrator starts talking about some sneaky man describing Baelish while showing his future fate. > > When the thug stabs him the narrator says: It was the chaos that killed him
It would be a better pottery than death from the hand of a fucking goblin.
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>>87101682
Do they like Arya Starku?
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>>87102418
That's not next level. They do that kind of shit all the time in primetime episodic shows. Except in those they explain the ruse 5-10 minutes later.
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>>87101833
>>87101877
>>87102091
The conflict between Arya and Sansa wasn't faked, according to Bran's actor.

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/game-of-thrones-season-finale-cut-scene-1202541941/
>It’s clear after Sansa turns the tables on Littlefinger that she has had some sort of conversation with Bran, but we don’t get to see it. When did it take place?
>We actually did a scene that clearly got cut, a short scene with Sansa where she knocks on Bran’s door and says, “I need your help,” or something along those lines. So basically, as far as I know, the story was that it suddenly occurred to Sansa that she had a huge CCTV department at her discretion and it might be a good idea to check with him first before she guts her own sister. So she goes to Bran, and Bran tells her everything she needs to know, and she’s like, “Oh, s—.”
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>>87102895
So D&D would have us believe that Arya was really that retarded?
I mean she's not really the brightest bulb, but that's pushing it.
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>>87102320

cuz bad writing

The whole plotline was set up that "oh littlefinger so smart! but little does finger know the stark girls is smarter all along!"
An entire seasons worth of plotline, dedicated to that.. prove me wrong..

Its literally a bad show, stop watching it.
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>>87102320
>without due process?
someone doesnt understand how medieval trials work
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>>87103301

someone doesnt understand what the whole point of the north was.

They were supposed to have traditions, to be noble. Ned taught his children that if you judge a man to death, you should do the killing.

Taking the black should have been an option, trial by combat aswell.

And above all visitors rights.

All this shows is that the new tyrants of winterfell are no different from those in kings landing. They dont care for due process, they dont care for traditions - We dont like you, so you die.

Youd think Sansa would have atleast a bit of mercy in her for all the times Littlefinger saved her life, but nah. grrlll pwr!
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>>87101833
No
It was arya warning sansa to keep her fucking political ambitions in check, specifically not to fuck her family
And that she isn't afraid of sansa in the least
Nor does she give a fuck about killing her and becoming lady of winterfell
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>>87101803
Isn't next season the last one anyway?
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>>87102895
This change the whole discussion and I am baffled /tv/ dont bring it out more often
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>>87103505
sansa was personal witness to him trying to make her kill his sister. there was no defense for him left.
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>>87103557
thatsthejoke.jpg
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>>87103526
they were genuinely angry at each other for a while until they realized what game was being played
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>>87101632

>Lady Sansa, I believe you lied under oath when you said your aunt Lysa jumped through the Moon door? Does this not matter?
>Ah, I shuppoze we are taking a crippled boy's dreams into account then? Should all trials be settled this way?
>Do great deeds not weigh in on my innocence? Returning you to your seat in Winterfell, saving your brother and bringing the Vale into your service. A fair trial is the least you can offer me.
>No? Very well, I shall demand trial by combat.
>Not even that? Fine, then the Night's Watch will serve me well enough, with the dead on the way you need every man you can spare.
>Not even that? Fine, but you are a Stark, my lady. I shall not accept accept your sentence if you are not the one to look me in the eye and take my life yourself.
>Oh, whatever, just have the goblin bitch mutilate my throat with my dagger. Then burn my body.
>Or you can just leave my corpse on the floor. That works too.
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>>87103655
This
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Can some post the Chinese Littlefinger pls
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>>87103612
Oh. Good one.
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>>87103655
Kek
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>>87101632
I'm glad they killed him off because the writers obviously had no idea what to do with him. But I think it would have been better for Sansa to turn the tables on him, blackmail him re: aunt Lysa and make him do his bidding. He still could have been useful, but justice would be done by making him sansa's bitch. He should have ended up losing face and remaining lord of the littlest finger, even after all his scheming
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>>87103180
This.

Season 1 the show was decent, now it's a mess.
It feels like it's written by different people.
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>>87103505
>you should do the killing
they did
>taking the black
they are all the nights watch now essentially, this isn't normal times
>visitors rights
there is a difference between a guest passing through and the situation, do you think they never execute anyone living in winterfell or the north?
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>>87103655
The absolute state of dnd
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>>87101632

Killed him off since their writers without GRRM are too stupid to use him.
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>>87103655

MY WIFES SON
MY WIFES SON
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>>87103655
It's really setting new standards when the "good guys" kill a man in the middle of their own fucking hall instead of at least taking him outside and giving him a clean execution. Could've been a great chance to show that she was taking her father's principles to heart, but nope, let's have some poor maid clean up CIA's blood from the floor because you're a psycho bitch.
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>>87101632
I think his plan of splitting them was working.

But when littlefinger had Sansa play his little game and had her come to the conclusion that Arya wanted to be lady of winterfell Sansa caught on and finally understood what he was up to.

Sansa knows her sister doesn't want to be lady of winterfell, so it's strange that littlefinger is insisting this is whats going on.
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>>87104764
this. why don't the normies in here get this?
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>>87101632
There was a scene that was cut that shows Santa and Bran taking about Arya and Bran reveals the truth to her.
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>>87104527
Not just blood. He probably pissed and shit his pants too as he lay dying on the ground.
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>>87104839
Because it;s literally too complicated for them to understand.
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>>87104839
It's literally too complicated for them.

these are people who get confused and think people are teleporting because there wasn't a scene showing them marching for 5 days
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JUST
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>>87105972
see >>87103577
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>>87101632
I feel like the entire show was a waste of time.
Didn't Littlefinger in the books turn out to be a lowborn everyman with great ambition and smarts who took Sansa to his comfy estate to meet his folks?
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>>87106151
Wikifag?
She's incognito at the Eyrie and he's trying to marry her off. She's meeting suitors and their folks.
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>>87101632
It's almost like two jews decided to ruin a much loved story for lots of shekels
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>>87106151
His family were lords, but basically the lowest of lords.
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>>87105752
delete this
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>>87102418
lol
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>>87106580
Like lowest rung, yeah.
>>87106244
No, just haven't read the books in years and didn't bother finishing Dance with Dragons as Dany's chapters got fucking unbearable. The freshest thing I remember about Littlefinger was him taking either her or somebody else to his estate.
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>>87102895
ahaha holy shit. the stark girls really are retarded kids playing at being grown-ups, while the actor for the stark boy thinks he is standing in for a non-character
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>>87101803
Guess you haven't read the season 8 leaks. It gets worse.
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>>87107229
Post 'em?
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>>87101803
Let's not even mention how fucking tiny Westeros is now. It's like every major region is a ten minute walk away.
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>>87107318
Or how empty it is.
Apparently Dany's army can just chill outside King's Landing.
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JUST!
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>>87107410
It's just gotten pathetic at this point.
The Cleganebowl setup was the most out-of-place and shoehorned non-scene I've witnessed in years. Made me considerably less hype.
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>>87107456
>The Cleganebowl setup was the most out-of-place and shoehorned non-scene I've witnessed in years
That whole scene in the dragon pit (which is apparently a 1000 year old ruin despite being active 100 years ago, and also outside the city) was so amateurish.
This is a meeting between Kings and Queens. And you have people butting and talking out of order.
Sandor can just walk up and be the FIRST one to speak? Dany may be pretty weak on decorum, but something so out of line as that shouldn't be allowed.

It feels like all the characters are just equal buddies instead of members of a government
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>>87101632

He had to go, D & D couldn't write a plot for such a mysterious and deep character, it was way out of their league.
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>>87107605
You're right, that scene in its entirety was a perfect example of the absolute state of current GoT. D&D couldn't give less of a shit anymore.
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>>87101712

XaaANnnNNxAAAAaaaa, save me!
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>>87101632
so you think a character with a motive should have plot armour all the way through?
isnt a large point of GOT that characters will die off unexpectedly ?

im sorry but i like him but i dont watch this show just for extras and nobodies to get killed off whilst the main cast remain untouchable, no matter what their stance is in the show
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I miss him already.
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>>87107691
i think they're disappointed that he didnt die while almost making it to the iron throne, having his clever plans foiled at the last instant. instead he was killed by two dumb girls.
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>>87102320

just turn your brain off lmao. drink beer and wine and wine coolers and have a good fucking time
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>>87101632

>sister threatens to kill you and steal your identity
>lol its ok :)
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>>87103769
>it's written by different people

The first season followed the books closely, whereas now they're just winging it. So in a way it is.
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The characterisation of both Arya and Bran has been baffling this whole season desu and made this whole plot line make no sense. One minute Arya's fine with everyone and the next she's a psycho threatening to take Sansa's face. One minute Bran's a distant autist who seems to know little fingers evil but is too detached from reality/focused on being the 3 eye'd raven to care. Few episodes later though he seems to be relatively normal and is for some reason only now finally calling out littler finger on his bs. I assume they were trying to make it seem like Arya 'out-schemed' littlefinger and got Sansa to see him for what he was but they executed it so poorly. Disappointing as one of the shows more interesting characters he deserved a better death.
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>>87101803
It is gladly the last season.

Can't wait for this shit show ro be over so I don't have to ever again consume the hollyjew in my life.
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>>87109068
>Sam: Hey, you're Jon Snow's brother
>Bran: Jon Sand you mean. I saw him born in Dorne. I see everything
>Sam: Did you see Rhaegar getting married to Lyanna?
>Bran: Uh.... Wait a second.
>Bran: Of course. I see everything.

Are we supposed to think that Bran isn't really all that powerful and is just shit talking?
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>>87101632

this dumb faggot deserved to die anyway. Got tired of looking at his face.
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Why did Arya terrorize Sansa beforehand?
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>>87109154
right in the belly button
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>>87109271
Because she's a crazy psycho who hates Sansa for no real good reason?
But then made up and bonded over their dead dad
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>>87109212
Seems that way as it's not like he's done jack shit to stop the night king so far other than go spy on him a few times with his ravens. Seems being 3 eyed raven just means he sits around all day watching things happen and occasionally rats out people when he feels like it.
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>>87109538
What's going to happen is that Bran is going to fight the NK for control over Viseryon for just long long enough for someone else to kill it.
And then Bran's head will explode or something.

He's just there to fuck up the Wight Dragon
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>>87109212

none of the faggot characters in this show even do anything of significance besides YAAS QUEEN SLAY.
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>>87109628
I'm guessing he'll just become a crow and get it to peck out the dragons eyes or something.
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>>87103655
100 times this, kek
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>>87108467
>he didnt die while almost making it to the iron throne, having his clever plans foiled at the last instant
That would have been worse.

People are literally complaining that he didn't have plot armour and almost win.
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>>87109212
>Are we supposed to think that Bran isn't really all that powerful and is just shit talking?
He CAN see everything, that doesn't mean he HAS seen everything.
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>>87109856
You think he'd have checked out Rhaegar a bit. He already knew about the tricky business at the Tower of Joy. He wasn't curious at all about how that came to be?

I guess he was too busy watching Sansa be raped
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CIA's pathetic out-of-character and pointless death will be the fate of all side characters and B-plots in the series. There is no great convergence, there is no ultimate purpose to almost any of them. Random plot threads will be arbitrarily tied off in hackneyed scenes and contrived deaths (heroic for the 'good' guys, YAAAAS moments for the 'bad' guys), all while Pretty Jon & Queen Chubbycheeks go around stomping zombies.
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>>87109993

jon is dying in the next season. There is no room for MEN in this show. This is about establishing a matriarchy. Dany will take Jon's seed, and the writers will dispose of that faggot when he gets killed by a random wight.

YAAS QUEEN SLAY forever
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>>87101803
>Honesty this whole season is a huge red flag
No, my friend. Season 5 was the huge red flag. This is the unfolding disaster that flag was there to warn us about.
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>>87110048
Leaks show that Dany dies and Tyrion and Varys make a democracy
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>>87110126
kek
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>>87101632
It turned to shit when they stopped following the books
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>>87110126
If that's true then it'd be the single most weaksauce cop-out in history. Isn't this world supposed to be like 15th century (minus guns)?
I remember reading an article recently about how non-medieval and essentially bourgeoisie GoT is and how it has only gotten worse. I thought it was absolute retarded vaguely-leftist bullshit at first but it really makes more and more sense.
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>>87110126
What leaks, my man?
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>>87101632
>>>/wsg/1852586
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>>87103301
someone gets his info on medieval laws and trails from fantasy novels and movies. Especially in the supposed time period game of thrones takes place in and the status of littlefinger he would have a lawyer and an actual trail with a judge
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>>87110126
ehh doesn't really work for an ending of a story but I like the idea, medieval and renaissance democracies always interested me but they definitely would not encompass all of westeros. Early democracies were city states. Maybe just Kings landing and the crownlands could work while the rest of the kingdoms figure it out for themselves
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>>87109325
>crazy psycho
arya seemed pretty down to earth for the most part until this episode, thats why its so ridiculous she gets 110% buttmad because her sister wrote a letter under duress.
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>>87105972

If the writers were smart they would have done this so his execution wasn't so black and white. I.E, Yay kill the bad guy yaaaaasssss. The reason GOT was so good in earlier seasons was because circumstances were not so simple.
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>>87110688
This ending is all D&D so it makes sense for it to be shitty.
The only thing they're keeping is Dany dying but in the books, she's straight up evil conqueror and it's a good thing she's killed
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What was littlefingers plan have if ayra just told Sansa it was he who originally got the note?
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>>87110911
Arya probably thought that LF was covering Shansha's ass by gathering all the letters
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>>87111047

and hiding them in his bed instead of burning them.
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>>87109154
Honestly who does missionary like this that just looks awful lift your legs up a bit love go on make him feel welcome
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>>87110126
>democracy
in medieval times that was city-level at most and involved rich citizens only
Unless they just mean that they get to institutionalize having a Great Council every time the king/queen dies
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>>87111474
No, they mean voting like in America
I'm sure the memedwarf will look at the camera and say something like "This is a great idea... Well until the elect an idiot"
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Littlefinger had a good backstory, and all the things he did made perfectly good sense before season 7.

>Get rid of any male Stark with a claim
>Seduce queen of the Vale and befriend her tard son
>Kill Jon Arryn to force the realm into destability
>Romance Catelyn or Sansa (he didn't mean to get the love of his life killed)
>Now effectively hold control over both the Vale and the North
>If Catelyn hadn't died, she'd opt for helping Baelish knowing her daughter and sister's son was helping him, basically adding the Riverlands to his side
>Use all of this to take the throne/Harrenhal for himself
>This is exactly how he'd climb the ladder known as chaos
>Have all of his genius plan ruined because people don't die when they get stabbed, dragons, oathbreakers, ungrateful children and autism (Brand)
>The arc of Petyr is that no matter how smart you are, the power of magic and love always wins
Fuck this unredeeming show.

You guys can be wrong about him not having any endgame or bad characterisation all you want, as long as you understand you are wrong
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>>87103655
>Or you can just leave my corpse on the floor. That works too.

That was the most ridiculous part of it. Not even Joffrey executed people in the middle of the throne room, or whatever it's called
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>>87103699
Rady Sansa
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>>87111551
>Freeze frame
>Recorded studio laughs and "ooooohhhh"s
>Roll credits
Idk if I can survive that
Hold me senpai
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>>87111551
What if the Lords at the Great Council become basically the Great Electors tho?
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>>87110748
>If the writers were smart
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>>87112053
Rittre Finger
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The future of Westeros.
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>>87112168
Big Finger
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>>87110748
>If the writers were smart
>"Yeah, we made the polar bear scene to show that WW can revive animals, too"
>tfw we've seen WW riding dead horses since S2E10
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>>87110596
>Especially in the supposed time period game of thrones takes place in and the status of littlefinger he would have a lawyer and an actual trail with a judge
a. game of thrones, like fantasy in general, does not have definite time period but is generally a collection of elements from different eras.
b. littlefinger was caught trying to manipulate sansa into killing her sister. the process was a mere formality. this isnt unrealistic at all.
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>>87112232
The present of Westeros more like.
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>>87102320
Because YASSSSS QUEEN SLAY

Also fuck drumpf and fuck white people
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>>87103655
this
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This is all he had to fucking say. The silver-tonguq Littlefinger fromt he earlier seasons turned into a groveling cuck the minute Sansa confronted him. Fucking pathetic writing.
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The simple answer is dumb and dumber are in a hurry to get through with the show and are rushing everyones plotlines.

Littlefinger's scheming and plans don't fit with the 'LoTR with tits' themes anymore.
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>>87107272
idk if these are it, but either way this link is a dumpster fire
https://pastebin.com/YhdMdDqW
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>>87102320
Bad writing. The scripts for hire are writing all this shit now
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>>87105752
i'm surprised we didn't have a classic d&d fart scene when he died
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>>87112893
or someone making a 'littlefinger' dick joke. There's like a quota of one dick joke per episode. Its like what a 13 year old things mature is.
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>>87110101
This. Dorne was the warning shot.
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>>87112988
BAAAAAAAAAAAAD PUUUUCCIIIII
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>>87112852
Not believable anymore since we've seen that the Dragonpit is outside the city, not inside it
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>>87101712
Fast travel is disabled when enemies are nearby
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>>87113130
Underrated tbqh
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>>87113130
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>>87113216

Made me kek
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>>87113130
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLTnMnokcBY
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>>87113166
Underrated? It's 9gag meme
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>>87101754
>do his fans exist
Yes, they're in this board
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>>87102320
You're thinking too hard.

Everyone hates him.
He's a schemer that manipulates everyone around him, and everyone knows it.
He tried to incite sansa into killing her sister.

This isn't in the USA where you're innocent until proven guilty.
The customs of the north don't give you immunity for being a shithead traitor of the highest degree.
There's also an army of the undead coming their way and they don't need to be dealing with this shit.

That's why none of them gave a shit.
As someone else said, the trial was a formality.
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>>87102320
>still thinking it was an actual trial
It was a glorified "ur bad im good u die now MINILLA ATTACK" moment
The writers are too stupid to make an actual trial
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>>87111624
>no matter how smart you are, the power of magic and love always wins
God I hate this shit
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S1:
>Perhaps you'll laugh, but I know him better than most, and this is the truth: Littlefinger is one of the most dangerous men in Westeros.

S7:
>ARRGH!! SHANSA, FORGIVE ME
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>>87112852
Jesus christ that is some of the worst fanfic tier BULLSHIT i have ever read. I sincerely hope this is not what happens.
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>>87113642
The show's plot is a literal fanfiction anon
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>>87101632

Maybe it really is just ladders in the end.
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>>87113715
Since S3.5 it has been. Once they deviated with the details on the Red Wedding it all went to shit. S4 was a joke, S5 was MTV tier, S6 was dogshit minus Battle o the Bastids, and S7 has been utter dickcheese. Only watching cause I need an ending. We all know that lazy fat FUCK is never going to finish the books.

FUCK D&D and FUCK GRRM fat piece of shit.
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>>87113980
Hey man, at least we'll get to see Nu-arthas kill goblin
Maybe
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omae wa mou shindeiru
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>>87114091
Its like watching the Hindenburg crash, its a fucking disaster but you cant look away cause you just want to know what happens. Its just a real goddamn shame given that the first couple seasons are actually phenomenal TV.

I mean, watch ANY scene with Bob and Ned, then watch the Bad Pussy scene. Or even Jamie and Bronn in the lastest finale just talking about COCKS as the Unsullied are right outside Kings Landing. What the FUCK D&D???
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>>87112852
>the ending is a rip-off of WoW
THERE MUST ALWAYS BE A LICH, err, NIGHT KING
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I'm still salty about the blackfish
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>>87114223
>Its just a real goddamn shame given that the first couple seasons are actually phenomenal TV.
There was some minor damage sustained in season 4, but the show was still salvageable.

Season 5 poured gasoline on any integrity the show had and lit it on fire. Dorne was the biggest, steamiest piece of shit ever to see the light of day on the show. The Bolton plotline was dumb and the character of Stannis was ruined because dipshit and dumbfuck don't know how to write characters and never seemed to like stannis from the beginning.

I miss the early seasons too :(
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>>87114223
Honestly the fact that they were talking about COCKS wasnt the matter, the thing i can't fucking understand is WHY WERE THE DICKLESS JUST OUTSIDE OF THE CASTLE DOING NOTHING AND WHY WERE THEY IN THE CASTLE DOING NOTHING
I'M SURE THEY HAVE ARCHERS
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>>87114349
Where was the baggage train? Where was the camp that they'd stay it? Where were the siege engines? Where were the trenches?
They were just standing their alone in a field
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>>87114346
Fair. No Quentyn, No Victarion, No Moccoro, No Grif/Young Griff, No Asha, No Val, No Arianne, etc. And they STILL found a way to rush the goddamn show too.

>>87114349
All strategy has been thrown out in favor of
>its magic I aint gotta explain this shit
and
>muh quips
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>>87114527
Just because they have no dicks it means they are literally invincible fighters and literal robots that never get tired or need food/water
Do you even Nu-GoT
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>>87114752
I never understood how men without testicles (and thus reduced testosterone levels) are supposed to be great soldiers anyway.
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>>87114786
And how is a ugly midget doing edgy useless spins with a pleb sword supposed to defeat a fuckhuge woman fully clad in armor with a functional sword
Just stop asking it's not worth anymore
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>>87101712
aaaaaaaaaghh
>>
Did they even use Robert's theme for Gendry's reintroduction?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqLo6vXKMLc
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>tfw autists in comment section of wotlk trailer talk about how arthas is a ripoff from night king
>tfw night king is d&d fanfic
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bane
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>>87115674
>wotik
>arthas
No one knows what the fuck you're talking about, speak English please
>>
Force Friday II leak
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>>87109212
I think his power's is more like google search engine than seeing everyone
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>>87101632
The entire thing should've been solved on day 1 of Professor BranX showing up. Idk why we needed 7 episodes of LF lurking behind walls and awful Sansa/Arya dialogue.
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>>87109839
So beautiful. ;_;
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>>87102895

then that's bad fucking writing. littlefinger is a complete non-sequitur that does not address that ARYA THREATENED TO KILL SANSA.

How many people who have legitimately threatened to murder you have you made amends with?
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>>87101632
at this point it seems as though every character that's not Dany or Jon Snow was a waste of time
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>>87103655
Just goes to show how many fucking options the old Littefinger could have utilized before accepting his fate, unlike nu-Littlefinger's "SAAANSAAAAA"
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>>87113360
>Everyone hates him.
When its convenient. Sansa conveniently doesn't care that he saved her form her wacko Aunt, or helped save Jon and Winterfell.
>He tried to incite sansa into killing her sister.
Because Arya was snooping around. LF was on Sansa's side but he gets the usual insurance to use against her, he also suspected Arya of spying on him which he was right. The trial was indeed a formality and a waste of time thats why the trial scene was garbage since Arya could have killed LF at anytime and no one would have batted an eye apparently.

The Knight of the Veil are faggots, and Sansa and Arya are cunts too. I hope NK kills them. And fuck Bran too little faggot.
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>>87104764
Okay, but why is he even in Winterfell to begin with? We've already established that this season was at least 2 years long based on various character's travels. So LF was just lurking behind the walls of Winterfell for two years? Because he wants to manipulate Sansa? But she's young and he has plenty of time for that.

This doesn't even address why Arya and Bran are in Winterfell just hanging out for a couple of years. Arya is supposed to be FM and be no one, and Bran flat out says that he's not Bran anymore and that he barely remembers Bran's memories. So why do they both still have a connection to Winterfell and consider it home?

Nothing in this show makes any sense anymore.
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>>87117474
after 2:30 mark, compare with last minute of S7E7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCr7y4SLhck
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>>87118932
also, game came out 7 years ago
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>>87118272
>tfw Sansa literally said she won the battle to retake Winterfell
I can't deal with this kind of dialogue anymore goddammit
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>>87102320
the starks in winterfell were literally the sand snakes of this season
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>>87118996
It was 9 years ago anon
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>>87119853
Damn, where has time gone?
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>tfw I wanted them to at least play the baratheon theme with Gendry
if they did, I didn't even catch it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W-vSgHZEjo
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>>87101712
Lol bane?
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>>87119959
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Why do women hate Littlefinger so much?
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>>87120234
+1 internet for you, my man
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>>87107605
>>87107650
Couldn't agree more. The entire scene was just so childish and stupid. Every character had to have their little epic reunion and quip, despite this meaning to be an extremely tense meeting between two huge warring factions.
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>>87120273
deep psychological reason
Man, yet surpasses every woman in his mastery of manipulation and deception
superficial reasons
uses prostitutes, is a """"pedo"""" to Sansa, uses Lysa's feelings for his goals, sucks up by giving Sansa to Boltons, other silly stories like those
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>>87101902
what was their plan even

why was any of this necessary. the court room made it clear that nobody cared about littlefinger, as nobody objected to his complete farce of a trial.


so why not just have arya kill him in his sleep or something
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>>87120273
Because he's short
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>>87103301
>>87113360

but tyrion got two trials we've seen, and even though they were corrupt, we saw that even when he was surrounded by enemies, they couldn't just outright kill him on nothing but allegations without some sort of pretense of a trial with a clear process to it all. he was allowed to find his own witnesses, demand trial by combat, take the black, etc.
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>>87113130
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>>87112423
a. but we've seen trials in game of thrones before. they definitely have them, and while corrupt, they're not so blatant as this. littlefinger didn't even get a proper execution. janos slynt, the night's watch deserter, lord karstark, all got taken to a chopping block outside, asked their last words then painlessly beheaded.

littlefinger got his throat slit in the middle of the great hall without an official sentence even being passed only moments after being accused of crimes at a trial he didn't even know he was attending.

b. they have no evidence of this.
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>>87103577
he never outright told her to kill his sister, in fact he outright claimed that arya wouldn't turn on her because she's family. it's very easy for littlefinger to claim he had no such intent.

and furthermore sansa is hardly a credible witness. she previously lied to all of the vale lords and claimed lysa killed herself, and now completely changed her story.
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>>87109819
>>87107691
well no. the issue is how absurd his death was, and how out of character it was for various people involved.


i'm okay with sansa killing LF, in fact it's probably going to happen in the books ("a maiden slaying a giant in a castle of snow"), but the way it was done was nonsensical.

And the point of Game of Thrones isn't that characters just bite it randomly. That would be dumb, and would make pretty much every character trivial. It's the pretense that anyone can die, but character's don't just die without narrative purpose. Robb and Ned's deaths were the very clear end to their arcs, and there were multiple hints leading up to it.

Littlefinger seems entirely pointless, and none of his schemes for the past few seasons make any sort of sense.
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>>87109212

>he predicted that Sansa was wearing white, looked pretty, and it was snowing on her wedding day in Winterfell during Winter.


he's just bullshitting them all
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>>87102320
>royce
He knew Littlefinger was full of shit in s6 and outright despised him in the books
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>tfw don't have much of a problem with anything until I read /tv/
>rewatch some of the episodes
>sure, season 7 has a fast travel system...oh well, whatever
>that wolf scene with arya? what purpose did that serve?
>forcing a rift between salsa and arya for essentially no reason
>arya, a 90lb girl who went to spooky school for five months defeats one of the best fighters in Westeros (Brienne). A warrior who bested Jamie Lanister, The Hound, and has dispatched multiple heavily armored opponents at once. atleast this shit was believable in season 4 when she was killing unsuspecting, or gravely wounded soldiers with the Hound backing her up
>John grinding XP by slaying low level wights when everyone is ready to roll
>Benjen taking le heroic last stand when he has plenty of time to leave to abruptly end his arc
>dothraki weapons are shown in season 1 to be ineffective against Jorahs armor, yet they seem to destroying heavily armored Lanister soldiers with their scythes
>only one mega crossbow when you've known for years that three dragons can fuck you up and lose you the war
>that 100ft deep stream
>sam poop montage
>sandor and other interesting minor characters are reduced to one line quip machines
>CIA's arc, a very important one mind you, is ended rather cheaply for the sole purpose of surprising the audience and to mend that forced strife between the sisters, who's stories were much less important than Petyrs
>boring ass costumes on the Lanister sides of things. Why is EVERYONE wearing black now????
>Where the fuck is Dorne?
>Corny theon ironborn fistfight. hehe i hav no balls ;)
I'm drunk, what else am i missing...
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>>87112053
Chang?
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>>87121814
>watching with wife
>theon fistfight starts
>oh wow he's getting his ass kicked, maybe he'll not succeed here, curious to see what happens afterwards
>make crack about getting kneed in the crotch
>it actually fucking happens
>not only that, but it turns the entire fight around despite Theon stumbling around like a blind drunk just moments before
>our fucking faces when

literally fuck this show.
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>>87109993
This.

I'm done with this garbage, not going to watch next season. Might pick up the books.
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>>87114247
Who?
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>>87118272
Why didn't arya kill him in private and use his face to get shit done? Now that everyone has witnessed the kill, his face is useless
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>>87113216
fug
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>>87101803
>this season is a red flag
season 3 was a tombstone
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>>87101712
We need a GoT character with a hose, now.
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>>87120635
Southern trials. The North has its own way, and he'd been declared a traitor to basically every power that could protect him. He even tried to get the knights of the Vale to help him out and they were more than happy enough to shrug him away.

He's a shit fighter, they have several eye witnesses and when repeatedly asked for his defense, he obfuscated and tried to redirect. So he had no chance of winning trial by combat, or choosing a proxy, and he was already giving up on winning an argument on the charges. He was in the opposite position Ned was, he's a silver tongued snake in the North where they typically don't play politics for personal gain.

Slitting his throat was maybe over the line, that's just how it is. The Starks declared his crimes worthy of death, and the Starks executed the sentence.
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>>87104017
"He who passes the sentence should swing the sword" Sansa didn't swing shit but her fat face
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>>87110688
>>87111474
>a democracy couldn't possibly encompass all of Westeros, it didn't work that way in real life!
>dragons, snow zombies, and magic are fair play though
>>
I remember not minding that the Brienne/Sandor battle was somewhat OTT. It was at least somewhat well done. Still felt like the show had some weight. Then season 5 came down like a ton of bricks.
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>>87123664

Most of season 4 was comfy, it really died when Tywin did. Selmy's death in season 5 (I think) was the first massive misstep.
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>>87123512

She'll still be able to down in KL, but I agree otherwise.
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>>87124851

Yes because those have been established elements with lore and plenty of warning. Most people knew to expect dragons. Having some sudden 11th hour shift to democracy would just make it look like a "yeehaw! good old murican freedom!" asspull meme. Maybe if they spent the last 3 or 4 seasons having lil peasant rebellions and commoner ideologues expressing the principles of freedom and an important scholar or two aping some Enlightenment wisdom it would make sense.

So yes, in the context of what is established, zombies and dragons and magic are more realistic than democracy.

I didn't think that was every a sentence I would type unironically but here we are.
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>>87101632
It just shows you that DnD are hacks nothing new to see.
Some nomi friend loved it tho.
>>
>>87102222
How did he know he wasn't bluffing
Also 'Jon is a sand' shows he's not omnipotent
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>>87101632
>Thank you for your many lessons, I will Not forgive them

This shit again?

We get it she's a mastermind now
>>
>>87110101
This. Shame on the idiots not realising this after the stannis character butchering, no victarion and lady stoneheart
>>
Wait wait, wasn't this show confirmed to suck like two seasons ago? And you shit eaters are surprised by this turn of events?
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>>87125232

Yeah it went into decline very quickly in season 5, but I think even the most ardent defenders were surprised by how rushed it is. The rest of us are just enjoying the slow motion crash.
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>>87111474
You could have the type of democracy the HRE did, electors for electing the emperor, and votes in Reiksforat for domestic policies
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>>87110126
>>87111474
>Unless they just mean that they get to institutionalize having a Great Council every time the king/queen dies
I hope it's this. Kinda makes sense at least. It will doom Westeros to get Poland'd in a couple generations, but it's not like there is an option that doesn't involve a fuckton of death and war.

>>87109538
>Seems being 3 eyed raven just means he sits around all day watching things happen and occasionally rats out people when he feels like it.
Well, that's kinda the job description. That and "find some limp kid to teach him this shit when you're approaching 99% decomposition"
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>>87125282
So you're making sure a show that is a flagship of what's wrong with modern western television and visual entertainment continues to make money by viewing it? Just for the epic lulz? Come on anon you have a limited time on this Earth before you die, watch something good.
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>>87101803

The show's been terrible since season 5. Are you seriously just figuring this out now?
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>>87101632
Can someone tell what happened to Dorne I get that their slut queen was captured and all their princesses but don't they still have an army that hasn't don't anything thing in ages. Shouldnt it be ready because they were going to leave had the slut queen not sat at the very front of the navy. Shouldn't it be well supplied and good to follow someone? There must be a new leader of Dorne why has no spoken to anyone at Dorne.
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>>87125380
Don't forget the Storm Lords (because everyone else has)
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>>87123287
The books are fantastic m8.
When you read the books, you'll never watch this tumblr tier garbage again.
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>>87125313

calm down, it'll be over soon.

Then 4 more spinoffs will take its place. save your energy to be triggered then.
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>>87125380
who knows, High Garden's massive army is MIA, The Eyrie's army is MIA, the Stormland armies are MIA, it's almost like....D&D didn't read the books huh
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>>87103655
tiral by battle is about finding the truth with the help of the gods, LF already admitted killing Lysa which was his death sentence no matter the reason
rest of the post is true though
>>
>*smug face*
>My sister asked you a question
Gets me mad everytime
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>>87103655
Screencapped, fucking this.
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>>87113360
except trial and execution is taken EXTREMELY seriously in the North, see: Season 1 and Ned Stark's own words and why House Stark is the controlling house of the North
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>>87125787

I had this strange sensation when I first saw this exact moment, like the disembodied screeching of thousands of autists from off in the distance. Almost lost my shit.
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>>87125787
>Your mewling sister was defenseless and weeping when she came to me with stories of your Lady Aunt terrorizing her. Were you there to spare her from her fated meeting through the Moon Door? Do you have it in you to be a cursed kinslayer to save those whom you love, Arya?
But nah, I'll act flummoxed and tongue-tied instead.
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>>87120364
this

>>87120397
but mainly this
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>>87125787
Top cringe. It's like the script was written by tumblr.
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>>87112852
>Arya doesn’t want to and claims that she’s stronger than most men. (16th line)

Arya will soon sit on the iron throne boys, she is a strong and independent goblin girl.

http://www.thegrumpyfish.com/maisie-williams-thinks-arya-will-sit-iron-throne/
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>>87112280
kek
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