/got/ general

>>87048251
Call Benjen the THERE'S NO TIME WOLF

>>87048277
Brandon is the "HECTOOOOOR" wolf

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is this a thing yet?

>Jon and Dany restore House Targaryen
>new words are Fire and Ice

Post yfw

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How will they prove to jon sno that he's a targayrian?

How will they convince others that jon sno is a targayrian?

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Has this been posted in here at all?

>>87048384
>"he touched da dragon dabid"

>>87048434
LOL! xD

Bazinga

>>87048278
Blackfyres are just Targs.

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Why are so many people speedreaders/speedwatchers?
It isn't that hard to pay attention.

>>87048434
Hello!

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>the huge massive ice wall collapses in less than 1 minute of fire

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>"Emilia Clarke isnt a CUTE"

APOLOGIZE

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post got wallpapers lads

>>87048251
can we get some googley eyed lannister soldier webms. the guy who makes blackberry wine

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>REEEEEEbellion

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Cast him /got/

>>87048251
1st for Dornish niggers

to the autist that keeps posting the picture of the effect of dragon breath on the wall you are a fucking retard

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>>87048509
WINE?

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>>87048520
Dorne is white.

>>87048291
Well it's kinda silly anyway. NK needs to pass the wall but can't due magic, the logical conclusion would be to move over the oceans (but can't since no ships and the Undead can't swim)

Only way I can see this being salvageable would be if the Horn of Winter blows the wall the fuck away and generates a massive blizzard that freezes even parts of the oceans. Also the Wall magic needs to span the entire planet and not just the Wall part but that makes it kinda stupid to erect a wall to begin with. Man this is fucking stupid actually, what did GRRM even think by trying to turn the NK into an apocalyptic event yet the fucker cant cross oceans.

>>87048498
holy shit i can almost imagine the disgusting shriek that came out of her mouth there
i meen holy shit look at the transformation her face goes through

>>87048496
>it's magical blue fire dude xddd

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>"You're a greedy bitch, you know that?"
>"If I lost my cock I'd drink all the time."
>"I make eunuch jokes, he makes dwarf jokes."
>"I'm blessed down south so I pull it right out, Jaime Lannister's half an inch shy of an inch"
>"I'm not asking the Lord of Light for help. I'm asking the woman who showed me that miracles exist."
>"I saw your pecker. What kind of God would have a pecker that small?"
>*farts*
>"That's what I do. I drink and I know things."
>"Did I ever tell you I used to think the sea was called the sea because it was nothing but water as far as the eye could see?"
>"Noh, naoitenz"
>"Our queen. She's wild you know. Don't let her size fool you."
>"Even heard you have no cock."
>"I've got two warts on my cock!"
>*theatre farts*
>"WOZZATMEAN?"
>"Gallivanting? That the sort of thing you start to say once your dick gets chopped off?"
>"Along with my BIG COCK!"
>"Let's go murder them"
>"That's like saying I have a bigger cock than anyone in the Unsullied army."
>"Good thing we're friends, or we'd be fucking you in the ass right now."
>"Two translators are on a sinking ship. The first says, do you know how to swim, the second says no but I can shout for help in nineteen languages"
>"SMELLS LIKE PUSSY TO ME"
>"You're the one with the magic cock"
>"Thank you Uncle Benjen"

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Can The Hound be given some proper fucking armor? The guy has been running around in a t-shirt and pants and now is just wearing some leather crap.

Let the guy wear some fucking plate.

>>87048542
*hispanic

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Odds Euron just hires the Golden Company for himself?

>>87048443
It's not a continuous land bridge. The wights couldn't even swim across a tiny lake, there's no way they can cross a hundred miles of water.

>>87048494

So obvious it hurts

So is it literally only Dragonglass or Valyrian Steel that can kill a Walker? Because I couldn't see the NK surviving being thrown into a Volcano, or having a large rock dropped on him.

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TYRION WILL BETRAY DANY

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Will be interesting to see how a crippled boy who's related to the one in question, a fatboy whos his friend and a bastard king who wants to secede from the Kingdoms convince everyone he's Ragger's son and heir to the throne.

>>87048494
what is this?

>>87048496
JUST SHUT OFF YOUR BRAIN! Lol

>>87048498
So heavy the heels on her shoe collapsed. Embarrassing.

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>>87048517
/ourguy/

>Dany and Jon supposedly are ice and fire
>but Jon himself is ice and fire

Can we get rid of Dany now? Pleeeease?

>>87048536
my muva use to tell me be kine to strangas and strangas will be kind to you

>>87048335
literally no one cares about meera

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Poor benjen, the episode after he dies the wall comes down

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>>87048565
>GALLIVANTING? IS THAT LIKE SOMETHING YOU SAY WHEN YOU HAVE AN EDUCATION AND AREN'T A HALF RETARDED LAYABOUT?
>HAHAHAHAHAHA!

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Reminder that this is how Viserion should be spewing fire

>>87048335

>and out of the series

>>87048608
wrong place, my fellow ledditor

>>87048498
Her smiling face is dumb.

>>87048610
>benjen
>dead

Any lewd photos of bas pusy, lads?

GO FIND THE SEASON STRETCHER, NOW!

>>87048251
lol. Moon is no egg. Moon is godess, wife of sun. It is known.

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>>87048565
"Ten thousand of your children perished in my palm, Your Grace. Whilst you snored, I would lick your sons off my face and fingers one by one, all pale sticky princes. You claimed your rights, my lord, but in the darkness I would eat your heirs."

"Her loins ached from the urgency of his love making. It was a good ache."

"Was there ever a woman with nipples so large or so responsive? He could hardly look at them without wanting to grab them, to suckle them until they were hard and wet and shiny"

"Ser Alliser Thorne walked from the room so stiffly it looked as though he had a dagger up his butt".

"The ship groaned and growled beneath him like a constipated fat man straining to shit."

"The three men were erect. The sight of their arousal was arousing."

"She was sopping wet when he entered her. “Damn you,” she said. “Damn you damn you damn you.” He sucked her nipples till she cried out half in pain and half in pleasure. Her cunt became the world."

>"HER CUNT BECAME THE WORLD."

"And suddenly his cock was out, jutting upward from his breeches like a fat pink mast."

"Men call me Darkstar, and I am of the night."

"Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up she was shitting brown water. The more she drank, the more she shat, but the more she shat, the thirstier she grew."

t. GURM

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DORNE IS WHITE!!!!!!!

>>87048601
The NK is Ice and Danny/Jon are Fire since they are Targs. It doesn't make sense for the good guys being both Ice and Fire.

>>87048574
>he's such a pimp that this is literally the first time he's been scared
>we later find out he wasn't even scared

how is he NOT the hero?=!?`!?!

>>87048565
Season 6 really had the most god-awful dialogue

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>>87048610
>he was the one keeping wall standing

>>87048335
All I know is I'd fuck both of them in any order.

>>87048670
lewd

>>87048618
>gets hit in the fire spewing organs
>catches fire and dies
>somehow can still breath fire after being brought back to life

>>87048592
Bronn can just repeat back to a few noble lords and ladies what they said in private to each other and they'll all believe him.

The weird kid who says he can see the past and present and then immediately tells you stuff that he couldn't possibly know is going to garner attention in a world of dragons and undead.

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AAARRRGGGHHH SAVE ME DABID

https://youtu.be/R8r9_WWzNS0

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>>87048251
>Cersei is hiring The Golden Company
>Jon is about to learn his real name is Aegon
>Aegon and the Golden Company
The Golden Company is going to betray Cersei, right? Seems pretty obvious.

>>87048496
does viserion needs to breathe
>unlimited fire

>>87048658
Dorne are spics anon. The mudshits are in Essos.

>>87048517
Sean Bean

Feels like Dany is being set up to die. I was hoping they'd turn her into an all out villain but now after six seasons she's suddenly sweet and sensible instead of an insane power hungry Targshit. Jon and her feel like completely different characters from what they are up until now.

>>87048588
>why don't they just fly the Night King to Mordor

>>87048658
>Shartmerican retards

>>87048496
You wanted them to actually make a one hour of wall melting by dragon fire scene ?

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Reminder.

>>87048434
*upvotes you*

Epic.

>>87048699
>Feels like Dany is being set up to die

How so?

>>87048712
t. butthurth mohamed

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BY ALLAH DORNE IS WHITE!!!!!
*blows up*

>>87048682
The Golden Company never break a contract.

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We can probably all agree season 8 will be plagued with fanservice,
0-10 how likely will we see:
>Syrio cameo
>Ja'qen cameo
>Warlocks
>Quaith
>Ice Spiders
>Cleganebowl (no stakes)
>Nymeria's army in battle
>Tyrion riding a dragon
>a logical answer to "neither of us can die on this continent"
?

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>>87048620
She'll be back don't worry.

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>>87048605

The stark revisionists are out in bunchs

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>>87048517
Mark Strong

>>87048699
Jon is mostly the same. His character hasn't changed much because, honestly, he isn't a complex character like Jamie or Baelish. That doesn't make him a bad character, but he is essentially the Ned stand in. The honorable guy who tries to do what is right and is in over his head. He hasn't changed that.

>>87048351
I might kill myself

>season 6 sets up that theres magic on the wall that protects it from white walkers
>this doesnt factor even slightly into how the wall is actually brought down

wow.

>>87048712
>shitskin detected

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>>87048498
>file name

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>>87048744
>tfw Danish
Whiter than you will ever be, Spic Nigger :)

I never read any of the Twilight books and the closest I have ever come to watching the movies was the RLM review of the last film. The entire first part of this last episode reminded me what happened in the last Twilight movie with everyone gathering together to talk about the plot.

>>87048494
MY SON

>>87048434
Epic lol-meme sir, you sir are a true sir. Epic upvote for you my sire, upvoted le meme. Tru gentleman incoming, epic roast.

>>87048801
>Danish
t. Ahmed abn bin ebin von Bombersteinberg

>>87048792
Blue magic dragon ice fire negates the magic on the wall. It is known.

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- 'me nan use to always tell me keep a pocket full of sand incase ya need it. and I always did'.

>>87048801
sure thing brother. inshallah

>>87048496
I'd say he just flew around destroying the fortress points on the wall and met up with his army on the last one, but I feel I'm giving D&D too much credit

because you have no cock.

>>87048829
>Being this mad
Hahahahahaha

>>87048498
You can just tell shes one of those aggravating "lol Im so random and quirky xD" women that expects you to laugh at everything she does and act as if shes the funniest person ever.

She must be such a pain in the ass to be around

>>87048757
>Syrio cameo
0
>Ja'qen cameo
1
>Warlocks
0
>Quaith
0
>Ice Spiders
0
>Cleganebowl (no stakes)
11 get hype
>Nymeria's army in battle
0
>Tyrion riding a dragon
7 probably, if he stays with Dany.
>a logical answer to "neither of us can die on this continent"
-2, no logical answers on this show anymore

>>87048801
No, Jamal, being born in Denmark doesn't make you Danish. You are still a durka.

>>87048861
>S E E T H I N G

>>87048844
Is this Maisie's brother or something

>>87048754
>They're sellswords!

Which is exactly what they're about to do in the books

so is anyone going to acknowledge that the entire winterfell storyline made no sense and the ending is extremely confusing and misleading or are we all just going to pretend it made sense because it was "satisfying"

even maisie williams said in an interview that their fighting was genuine. so the entire conclusion to that storyline makes absolutely no sense.

>>87048682
The Golden Company is with fAegon because he's a Blackfyre. They hate Targshits.

>>87048481
mate do you know how many adhd's i have? no. so fuck off and let me distracted in peace

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>>87048803
It was pretty stupid they came up with convoluted reasons to have all of the main characters meet up to have WITTY BANTER BASED ON PAST EVENTS.

Why would a meeting between 3 potential rulers (Jon, Dany, Cersei) take place in some open arena with a few dozen people? It would make more sense for just the 3 of them to meet. Why have all these different people come along just so they can reference past events for a few minutes then sit there silently.

Why is Ned the only one without black hair?

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>dornishposting is back

>>87048251
>Self Hating Non White Shartmericans obsessed with Whiteness
STAY.MAD

>>87048722
maybe have him start working on bringing down the wall in the beginning of the episode, then cut back to it at the end to signify the amount of time put into bringing it down?

>>87048754
They haven't made a contract yet
Didn't Cercei say she's sending Euron to hire them?

>>87048651
Talkien of our life time.

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Imagine how much more entertaining the show would be if
>Brandon replaces Ned
>Viserys replaces Daenerys
>Roose replaces Ramsay
>Joffrey replaces Tommen
>etc.

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ANY NON-WHITE MAN FROM DORNE IS THE ENEMY OF ALLAH!!!!

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>>87048904
Why did Shireen have blonde hair? was Stannis cucked by a Lannister?

>>87048924
t. Dornish nigger

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>>87048844

>British "people"

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Will the night king bring Stannis back?

>>87048618
please explain why wights can only be killed with dragonglass

>>87048890
yea his name is goosey williams

>>87048994
u wot m8?

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>>87048983

>>87048722
It was their dumb fucking idea to make NK do it with a dragon, bringing it down that fast with the Horn would've made sense.

>>87048618
>>87048674
>flies with holes in his wings

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>>87048983

How much did the series diverge from the planned books? Did GRRM say anything or does it just follow the rough outline he had in mind for the story?

Not like he will release the rest in his lifetime, but still curious.

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>>87048976
Yes.
>Night king reaches Winterfell.
>Sees the body of Stannis.
>Revives him as a wight.
>Stannis breaks free from his control through sheer willpower.
>Kills the Night King, takes over his army.

STANNIS! STANNIS!! STANNIS!!!

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TWOW when?

>>87049017
>>87048983
Darkstar is innocent! That's not even Myrcella!

>>87048660
He didn't look scared

>>87049036
Read the books Shartmerican

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whatd he mean by this

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>Sansa and Arya resolve all personal differences even though Arya just threatened to kill Sansa in private just an episode ago
>Don't show how it happened
>Don't tell us how it happened
>Just have them execute le tricky maneuver on Littlefinger

These two characters were ready to kill each other an episode ago. What is the point of all this personal tension if there isn't the scene where it all boils over and they resolve the problem? Why set up a problem just to sweep it to the side?

What are the writers doing?

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>>87048670
Kit has the THICCER ass though, I'd choose him over frogfu any day

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>>87048962
I can't believe i never realized this
what the fuck?!

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>>87049052
never EVER

>>87049052
FUCKING A i hope this was made as a joke...

>>87048767
100% chance she wont

>>87049036
in books Euron has been sort of set up as final boss. Showfags are gonna be pissed when that happens in next season

>>87048985
The white walker's magic is cancelled out with dragonglass
It severs the tie between WW and wight
Like a signal jammer

>>87049085
>>>pol

>>87049061
"planned books"

Shame you can't read.

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Dayne?

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>>87049070
JUST SHUT YOUR BRAIN OFF LOL

>Starkfags unironically believe Brandon wasnt commiting treason
>Starkfags unironically believe Nobels can requests duels to settle disputes

So why was Robb allowed to deny Jaime his duel to settle the war?

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>>87049017
>OH NO MY LOVER AND YOUR BROTHER DIED WHAT DO WE DO
>'Well he agreed to a trial by combat and lost because of his own hubris. This is a tragedy and I am deeply saddened by this, but he was an honorable man and we will cherish his memory'
>GO TO WAR OVER IT, KILL THEM ALL
>'We can't go to war because he agreed to a trial by combat and lost'
>I KNOW HOW TO AVENGE MY LOVER
>KILL HIS FAMILY AND MURDER A LITTLE GIRL EVEN THOUGH HE WOULD NEVER WANT THIS AND STICKS UP FOR THE HONOR OF THE DORNISH PEOPLE BUT WE'RE GONNA MURDER AN INNOCENT PERSON ANYWAYS
>WHOOPS YOU'RE DEAD AND NOW ALL MY CHILDREN ARE DEAD AND I AM CAPTURED

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>be Reggar Targaryen
>marry beautiful northern girl who's in love with you
>her brother gets angry for some reason and demands your head from The King
>gets executed for it
>filthy northern rats conspire behind your back and build rebellion on a lie that you kidnapped her and raped her
Regger did nothing wrong desu

>>87049064
He meant he's very cute

>>87048985
because the original is bound as an ice elemental with dragonglass and magic. so it works as a kryptonite on lesser walkers

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There was must always be a night king...

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>>87049085

>>87048722
>>87049022
>The Night's King comes riding in on the dragon but blowing on the horn of winter

>Three horns to signal White Walkers
>One more blows
>What are four blows for?
>Some witty Dolorus Edd snippet

>>87049108
Yeah Nigger he is going to reveal the content of his planned books.
Shane you lack the intelligence to think for yourself.
>Shartmerican retards

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>you will never drive through Dorne in a purple mustang with Darkstar

>>87049121
Tell me about Darkstar, why does he comes out at night?

>>87048962
She's black haired in the books. DnD stopped giving a shit about hair color post-Season 1. You can see this with black, brown and orange haired Lannisters.

test

test

>>87049149
Arthas is a lot more interesting than DA NITE KANG

>>87049146
NEEEEEEEEEEED THE WHOOOOOOOOORE IS PREGNANT

>>87049036
GRRM has said the books and the show have gone their separate paths. D&D have used some of the stuff he's told them to reveal things that will happen, but a lot of the stuff they're doing is made up and new. Several of the characters they've killed or cut from the show are supposed to be endgame important characters in the books.

>>87049161
DORNE IS WHITE!!!!!!

>>87048757
>a logical answer to "neither of us can die on this continent"
Are you talking about the conversation between Varys and the red priestess ? Cause she said the opposite

>>87049070
It doesnt make any sense because they cut a scene. In the leaks it talked about sansa going to ask bran for help. that didnt make it into the episode which made the entire storyline fall apart.

>>87049152
How can you trust something that doesn't exist?

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>>87049149
THE DRAGON'S FLAME HAS SEALED MY FATE

>>87049195
Why include the story line at all if you're just going to cut the conclusion? Why not add the scene in when you're episode was an hour and twenty minutes long anyways?

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>>87049161
He did reveal his plans to D&D.

>>87049108
Shame you didn't read the books to answer your own question

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So did Lyanna believe she was making a chosen one prophecy baby like Rhaegar believed or was she just seeking some dick?

>>87049161
Don't get so triggered, anon. No one wants more terrorist attacks.

>>87049217
>Shart
>Merican
>Retards

>>87049130
They can though.

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Lyonel_Baratheon

The Baratheon/Stark/Arryn/Lannister alliance's only fault was not just destroying the Iron Throne and going back to 7 independent kingdoms. It was about time for the Targshits to be removed from power.

>>87048498
>Best Girl
>looks like a fat boy in a wig

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>>87049224
She was a whore, plain and simple.

>>87049224
She was just a whore and couldn't resist the big Hasty cock which Rhaegar inherited from his real father, Bonfier Hasty, also called "Baelor Butthole" by Jaime.

>>87049224
Most likely she fell in love with her kidnapper, like most of the women do

>>87048658
DORNE ARE MEDITERRANEANS FUCKING DUMBASS, NOT AMERINDIANS

why are there holes in his wings

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How quickly will Serbsi die in S8?

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>>87049216
Im not being sarcastic, I'm pretty sure they cut it because they were trying to make it seem as though sansa was so smart that she knew all along and didnt need brans help. but they decided only after writing and filming everything that their sansa fanfic wasnt fanficy enough so they butchered the storyline in the editors room.

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Where would you cast my wife in A Game of Throne?

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>>87049203
>Paladin of the Lord of[/light]
>Fighting against the Army of the dead
>Gets torched by a dragon

He's going to fully become Bolvar isn't he?

>>87049012
his real name is goosecok but she calls him goosey

>>87049249
Hes not wrong, it's been known for quite some time that GRRM has spilled the storypoints for the ending of the books to the showrunners.

>>87049149
MY SON

>>87049306
But Sansa literally says she is dumb in the scene where they kill little finger.

"I MAY BE A SLOW LEARNER... BUT, UH, YA KNOW... I DO LEARN EVENTUALLY SOMETIMES."

Why the fuck did the dragon get a speed buff when it's dead and has holes in its wings

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Name a comfier character. Literally /ourguy/.

>>87049146
>be Rhaegar Targaryen, crown prince and heir to the Iron Throne, married man with two children, 23 years old
>groom northern girl, 15 years old who is betrothed to the lord paramount of the Stormlands
>seduce her, take off with her without telling anyone, impregnate her and fight in a war when your father kills her father and brother

he was a cunt

>>87049252
Doesnt anwser why Robb was allowed to deny Jaime his duel

>>87049272
DORNE IS NOW CONSISTS OF MUSLIM RAPE-BABBIES?

>>87049344
it wasn't a buff or boon. just demonstrating how fast they can get

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When will they leave us white people alone?

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Why was Balon such a retard

>>87049345
This guy has exactly one interesting point about him: How he "revived" The Mountain, and even though that was several seasons ago we still don't know.

>>87049339
thats literally pandering to sansafags. its a very meta 'in your face, haterz' line. not sure why you think that is meant to make her look dumb when its actually meant to make her look super smart and accomplished now.

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>>87048757
>TrumpxMerkel

Wow I can't believe Cersei sent her best man. Jaime "Kingslayer" Lannister to fight the White Walkers. What an incredible woman.

>>87049314
On my dick

>>87049376
Well he was an Ironborn for one.

>>87049352
Are you insinuating that a criminal proceeding is the same as a prisoner of war proceeding?

>>87048559
>whining about a magical blast in a series filled with magic

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>>87049376
Because he went against Bobby B

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spent $100 dollars on this painting. you like it?

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whos the best actor of the stark kids and why is it obviously isaac?

>>87049389
Admitting to being a slow learner generally means you're not very intelligent.

>>87049316
At this point, almost every character on the show has a counterpart in the Arthas story. My bets are on D&D ending the show exactly like WotLK

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>>87048589
FOR THE SAKE OF CERSEI'S BABY

>>87049321
>Double Shartmerican retards
Why are you all so god damn dumb?
Of course he will tell the showrunners, because they give him a lot of money.
Why should he reveal the important story points to the fans?
He would lose buyer and readers.
Is thinking a bit logical that hard?
>Shart
>Merican
>Mentally
>Challenged
>Retards

>>87049418
lmao
4/10

>>87049425
You're genuinely autistic if you dont understand the intention behind them including that line, seriously.

>>87049345
Mance Rayder and Mace the Ace

>>87049421
>Le sit around and say thing in a monotone voice man

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Fuck I hate new NK

>>87049418
i cant imagine giving a shit about this show that much.

>>87049070
>>87049195
>>87049216
>>87049306
>>87049389
I thought it was implied Bran helped somehow?

So why didn't Cersei just have Tyrion killed at that moment? Does she actually love him deep down?

>>87049448
No, anon, I understand the intention. I am saying that the line is not correct for their intentions.

>>87049440
DORNE IS W H I T E

>>87048620

We'll see her again when the Stark posse visits her father to verify Jon's origin, I imagine.

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>>87049418

>>87048851
i don't think there's an need or even small passing thought to do that over the thousand or so or less people manning the wall. they just needed a way through.

also note they still had to climb over a 200 foot pile of wall rubble.

>>87049455
They needed to make him look more like Bran for the shitty twist at the end

>>87049455
He looks older and less intimidating

>>87049440
Calm down, Muhammad, we don't you blowing yourself up and killing people over this.

>>87049410
Hows it different then Lyonels rebellion mentioned above?

>>87049379
He's still comfy though, just hanging around in the background in comfy robes doing his job which he loves with resources from the crown. I hope he'll get some new ideas with the wight hand.

Also he built the scorpion.

>>87048659
No, we warm his cold heart with a hot island dance.

>>87049455
I actually prefer the new one. His huge nose and lips just make him look stupid.

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Refill me on Bobby b /got/

>>87049418
Who is the artist?

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All enemies of Dornish white men will be purged by thw wrath of Allah

>>87049314
She has a very derpy face, anon. Is she legally retarded?

>>87049455
Second looks like he's actually nihilistic, intelligent and has a wicked sense of humour

>>87049440
M E N T A L L Y I L L

>>87049146
>be Reggar Targaryen
>your father breaches the laws of the seven kingdoms and sets everyone against you because he's fucking insane
ftfy

>Tending to my farm
>Dothraki destroy my crops and then rape and kill me

THANKS QUEEN DAENERYS

>>87049463
Its implied he helped ""somehow""" but its super unclear WHEN he helped and whether or not sandra and arya knew all along and were faking it. and that was totally intentional. most sandrafags are convinced she knew from the very beginning and her and arya were just being tricksters the entire time.

which both makes no sense and is also confusing. Why would they need to trick him? Who fucking cares? What does that accomplish? if they knew about his crimes via bran THE ENTIRE TIME, they could have executed him AT ANY POINT.

also, again, Maisie williams even straight up confirmed in an interview that they WERENT faking their fights. so when the fuck did they actually find out what was happening? when did arya decide none of the stuff that she was angry about bothers her anymore? when did they plan this entire charade? when did bran tell them what was going on?
all of that would have made a lot more sense if they'd just included the scene where bran actually contributes to the plot

>>87049449
Based Mace the Ace has comfy ways of spending his days.

Do you think Jon will tell Dany they are related next season?

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>>87049521
le go back to le rebbit

>>87049554
fucking white people i swear

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How much further do I blob? I've taken all Stormlander culture counties aside from Summerhall.

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START THE BLOODY BOBBYPOSTING BEFORE I PISS MYSELF

>>87049455

Heard there is not even a Night King in the books. So given that the show ends like GRRM want the books to end the whole NK is propably a ruse and he will die like a bitch soon in S8. #which is another clue for the legit spoilers

>>87048251
>Shartmericans Non whites literally too dumb to discuss something
STAY.MAD

>>87049455
Looks better now.

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>>87049440
>implying bookfags would boycott if the endings are the same as the TV series
You'll drop your coin no matter what he releases. Luckily for you GRRM will never finish writing it.

>>87048498
ugly

>>87048335
>have similar hair
>must be twins
I remember this faggotry

>>87049451
>le pretending thats not one of the hardest roles to nail

i mean compared to maisie and sofie he's the only one of them not just playing an obnoxious smug version of themselves

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>>87049573
You haven't reclaimed all rightful land yet. The blackwater must be liberated.

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>>87049306
Who would mount this mountain?

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>bookfags are fucking niggers kys
What did she mean by this?

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So.. who's going to wield Heartsbane?

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Robert’s Rebellion as Just War

There are three traditional principles associated with the concept of “just war” (justum bellum): (1) the rules wrt to the justice of war (jus ad bellum); (2) the rules wrt to just and fair conduct in war (jus in bello); and (3) the responsibility and accountability of warring parties after the war (jus post bellum).

(1) Jus Ad Bellum

Jus Ad Bellum is described as existing when: there is just cause, being a last resort, being declared by a proper authority, possessing right intention, having a reasonable chance of success, and the end being proportional to the means used.

>>87049573
COLONIZE SUMMERHALL

>>87049130
Requests can be denied you dunce. That's part of it being a request.

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>>87049583
Haha yes! Tell Them! Us Dornish have to stick it to the infidels!

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>>87048620

>>87049573
>that messy vassal placement
Pls fix

>>87048542
I love how you sharters never bother to shoop out the mate because you have no idea what it is

>>87049619
Porn?

>>87049455
old night king has no fucking jaw

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>>87049632
Possessing just cause is, arguably, the crux of jus ad bellum. Generally, just cause is described as the pre-existence of an act of aggression. While the definition of acts of aggression in just war theory is tenuous - violations of borders, restrictive trade policies, aggressive monetary policy, acts of aggression upon a neighboring state (aggression against social justice) are all alternately accepted and dismissed as viable acts of aggression by just war theorists - the definition is quite clearly applicable in the case of Robert’s Rebellion. The implied injustice of Aerys’ reign aside (as implied by the hints of unrest and Rhaegar’s potential wish to depose his own father in the events leading up to RR), the actual acts of aggression leading up to RR are both high-profile and undeniable. The torture and executions of Brandon Stark and Ned’s father, a Lord Paramount and his heir, are clear acts of aggression against traditional notions of justice - neither of the men were allowed their right to trial - and against the security and lives of two members of the nobility. These acts of aggression continued in Aerys’ demand that Jon Arryn send him the heads of his two young wards - Ned Stark and Robert Baratheon (now both Lords Paramount in their own rights). By directly infringing upon the security and persons of four members of the nobility, Aerys clearly provided the acts of aggression necessary for jus ad bellum. Note: Since both the king and the nobility are arguably members of one state, it becomes necessary to distinguish between them using a strictly feudal perception of the relationship between king and lords. In this context, it is important to remember that there is a strong tradition for just war between the nobility and their king, indeed, it is one such war that led to the addition of the Magna Carta into the body of English law. More on this later~

>>87049379
Show leaves out his little experiments he does on people. He's really creepy.

>>87048899
Wew. She went full kike babushka.

>>87049455
What are those lips on the first one

>>87049626
Jorah

>>87049626
Sam obviously

Characters that have killed children:
>Sandor
>Arya
>Theon
>Stannis
>Ellaria
>Jon
>Ramsay

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>>87049670
War as a last resort. This criteria is also amply fulfilled by RR, as evidenced by a critical examination of Aerys’ reign as well as his attitude towards dissent. Aerys was notably paranoid - he publicly humiliated and shamed Tywin Lannister, who was, arguably, faultlessly fulfilling his office as Hand of the King, because he was irrationally afraid of Tywin’s excellent administration of the 7K. It is implied that Aerys both suspected his own son of rebellious intent, and was willing to execute Rhaegar if those suspicions were given any form of “validation.” When Brandon Stark and Ned’s father rode to KL to demand the release of Lyanna and an explanation from Rhaegar for her disappearance, Aerys accused them of treason and executed them without due process of law, after which he preemptively demanded the executions of Ned Stark and Robert Baratheon. Later, after Jon Connington’s failure at the Battle of the Bells, Aerys had turned his suspicions onto the loyal Hand and forced him into exile. This was not a king with whom any form of peaceful discourse was possible - Aerys saw enemies and treason where there were none to be found, and would certainly have refused to treat peacefully with those who had just cause to be “treasonous.” Consequently, the participants in RR had no other recourse but to declare war against Aerys.

>>87049418
The fat dany face ruins it.

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>BASED ON A LIE

>>87049036
The final fates of the most important characters will be similar in book and show. Martin gave them the general outline and ending and let them adapt it to television.

So what happens to Jon, Dany, and the big major players will be similar. Everything else will be different. Martin already cried about them getting to all the biggest spoilers first when season 6 came out, he was upset they went ahead and he hadn't released book 6 yet, so they stole his thunder.

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>>87049708
In the case of RR, the definition of “proper authority” is the controversial step in establishing jus ad bellum. There are two dominant interpretations of “proper authority”: (1) a Hobbesian view that people owe allegiance to the state and have no right to resist regardless of the nature of the regime; and (2) a Lockesian view that a “poorly accountable, inept, or corrupt regime” possess no sovereignty and that consequently, the subjects possess the right to declare war/defend themselves against the government or foreign power. While the Lockesian view clearly upholds the “proper authority” of Jon Arryn, Ned Stark, and Robert Baratheon in declaring war against Aerys, I will argue that the Hobbesian view does not necessarily invalidate this “proper authority.” In a feudal society it is important to remember that members of the nobility, especially Lords Paramount, are not subjects in the traditional sense. While commonfolk are arguably born into service/obedience to their lords, this is not the true nature of the relationship between knights, lords, Lords Paramount, and the King. A better understanding of these relationships can be gained by examining two specific instances in ASoIaF. The first is the exchange of oaths between Catelyn and Brienne in ACoK:

>Brienne: “Then I am yours, my lady. Your liege man, or… whatever you would have me be. I will shield your back and keep your counsel and give my life for yours, if need be. I swear it by the old gods and the new. “

>Catelyn: “And I vow that you shall always have a place by my hearth and meat and mead at my table, and pledge to ask no service of you that might bring you into dishonor. I swear it by the old gods and the new. Arise. “

>>87049418

what spell is Jon casting here?

>>87049272

Sorry bro but dornish are arabs. GRRM himself admitted it in an interview. Mediterranean equivalents are at the islands of Essos. I'm a shitskin mediterranean myself so yeah, no powerfantasy for us, bro

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>>87049737
I know that I tend to harp on the importance of oaths as social contract in Westeros, and my song will be little different in this case. Note that it is an exchange of oaths. The text of the oaths between the two women sets out the rights and responsibilities of both which form the conditions of their new relationship with each other. Brienne promises to protect Cat, to keep her secrets, and to give her life for Cat’s should it be necessary. In turn, Cat swears to provide Brienne with protection (note: Brienne swears to provide Cat with physical protection whereas Cat’s oath implies the provision of symbolic protection “a place by my hearth”) and sustenance and to never ask Brienne to perform any dishonorable act.

The second is also in ACoK - when Meera and Jojen Reed arrive at Winterfell in order to retake the oaths of fealty of their people to the King in the North.

Again there is the two-sided nature of the oath - the Reeds pledge their faith to Winterfell, to send tribute from their harvests and to provide soldiers for WF’s wars. In exchange, they require WF to grant mercy to their weak, help to their helpless, and justice to all. This second phrase is significant in that it is phrased as a conditional - if WF carries out its side (the Stark side) of the oath, then the people of Greywater will never fail them. Again, the conditional nature of fealty and loyalty is thrown into clear emphasis.

This scene is also notable in that the Reed siblings mention the importance of the renewal of oaths. Although it does not appear as if oaths are regularly renewed (hundreds of years have passed), it does imply that lords do have some agency over whether or not they choose to continue to remain party to oaths of fealty to Lords Paramount (and by extension, the king).

>>87048962
Is it weird that I think she looks better with the grayscale makeup?

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Is Cleganebowl pretty much confirmed?

>>87049754
He paid $20 for a name change

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>tfw Stephen Lang wasn't cast as Stannis
>tfw he isn't a main character in GoT

He's just so good.

>>87049791
It is absolutely confirmed.

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F

>>87049451
Well he is essentially no longer human. He sees things that he shouldn't and his understanding of the world is so radically different from everyone else that it makes sense he'd acquire autism. He's operating on another level at this point.

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>>87049770
If we view the “loyalty/fealty” between knights, lords, Lords Paramount, and the king as a sequence of social contracts formed through the making of oaths, then we are free to examine if Aerys is still the legal king to the three main parties of RR: Ned Stark, Robert Baratheon, and Jon Arryn. While the actual text of the oaths appear to vary, they do consistently require the administration of justice (explicitly in the Reed oath, implicitly “symbolic protection” in the Catelyn oath) on the part of the overlord. If Aerys had not already violated his promise of provision of justice already, he most certainly did so in the torture/execution of Brandon Stark and Ned’s father as well as the groundless demand for the deaths of Ned and Robert. By demanding that Jon Arryn execute the two boys, Aerys also demanded “dishonorable service” of him. Consequently, we can say that Aerys has already broken the social contract between himself and Jon Arryn, Ned Stark, and Robert Baratheon - Aerys is no longer their king. Since all three of the characters named were Lords Paramount by the start of RR, they are then the highest authority in their individual “realms” and possessing of the “proper authority” necessary to declare war in both the Hobbesian and Lockesian sense.

The “right intent” clause of jus ad bellum requires that the war be “ostensibly conducted” for the right reason - namely, the perpetuation of justice. It is important to note the key word “ostensibly” in this clause. The motivations for war are often complex and difficult to simplify into one or two causes. By qualifying that the war must be “ostensibly conducted” for the perpetuation of justice, this clause allows for the existence of other motivations and justifications for the war - it simply requires that justice be the acknowledged motivating factor. To examine whether justice is the intent given for RR requires a definition of the nature of justice.

>>87049418
>missing the spear wildling fighting the invisible wights
Wow u dun goofed

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>>87049272
>played by a Chilean spic
>not Amerindian
Pick one

Real Spaniards are whiter than the Dornish

>>87049561
This is how it will go

Jon gets told privately by Bran and Sam.
he stays in denial saying that visions don't prove anything.
He wants proof so Bran tells him "you know nothing jon snow" which proves to Jon that Bran really does see everything
he then proclaims he will always be Jon and Ned will always be his father no matter what anyone says and then storms off.

eventually he goes to see Dany and tell her the truth. he's really uncomfortable and just before he tells her the truth Dany tells him she is pregnant
He realizes it's too far now and he cant tell her and then tells her he loves her.

screenshot this

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>>87049605
Can't until the Seven Kingdoms are broken up. Working on that, but only the Arryns have had balls. Starks and Lannisters have been really fucking shit. The Tywin equivalent died so a "Cersei" rules the West now and Rickard Stark died sick without any heirs so no Ned, Brandon and Benjen. They're ruled by some yas queen right now.

>>87049633
It was never fucked over. I started as Lyonel the Laughing Storm and won against Duncan so I got independence. Meanwhile Egg actually succeeded in his attempt and hatched a dragon. He gave Summerhall to... House Banho, an enlightened New Westerosi house. What is it with Targs inviting foreigners over?

>>87049647
What do you mean?

>>87049804
i liked when he btfo of those blue niggers

>>87049804
VE
NE
ZUE
LA

That was some mean bush.

>>87049791
*AIRHORN NOISE*

>>87049638
Can someone explain me these memes

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>>87049821
As I have already set out many of the reasons above, I will not reiterate them except to say that it is made amply clear in ASoIaF that Aerys did not reign as a just king and was known to willfully violate justice and pervert the system of justice for his own ends. Consequently, war against Aerys would always have been ostensibly conducted for the sake of perpetuating justice (removing an king who was counterproductive to the establishment of justice).

The requirement that a reasonable chance of success be established for the sake of jus ad bellum is a consequentialist clause rooted in the belief that a war, no matter how just its motivations are, is fundamentally unjustified if it fails to reach its ends (the ostensible perpetuation of justice/end to injustice). This is easily checked off the jus ad bellum list for RR, since with the power of the Stormlands, the Vale, Winterfell, and the Riverlands, RR had a very reasonable chance for success.

Finally, jus ad bellum requires that the ends be proportional to the means used. This point ties in with the second aspect of just war, jus in bellum, and is the only point of jus ad bellum for which RR has a significant risk of falling short. There is very little known about the actual battles of RR aside from the Battle of the Bells and the Battle of the Trident. However, the brutal deaths of Elia and her children immediately weigh upon the scale of the means used in RR. Not only were the deaths insensate and unnecessary, they were also unbelievably cruel and inhumane.

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>>87049831
>spain is white

>>87049418
Looks like something that would be on a 12 year old's bedroom wall. I wouldn't want that even if I was offered it for free.

>>87049831

Only spanish see themselves white.

>>87048494
I was hoping during that scene that they would all collectively scream like they did in the WoTLK trailer. I would've sperged pretty hard.

>>87049848
Holy shit you must reclaim Summerhall as fast as you can and purge westeros of summer islander scum

>>87049840
I love anime

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>>87049865
While the description of Jon Connington’s actions during the Battle of the Bells and a knowledge of Aerys’ persona and the extent to which he was willing to go (burning all of KL with wildfire) indicate the war atrocities were not limited to one side of the war, and that the volume of unjustified action was almost certainly “in favor” of the Targaryens, I think it is important to note that since Elia’s death did not advance the war effort in any way (in fact, Elia and her children were Targaryen hostages), it is impossible for the ends of RR to ever justify their deaths. This point against RR can only be mitigated by noting that the deaths were never ordered by Robert, Ned, or Jon Arryn, and that Elia’s death was possibly never explicitly ordered by Tywin Lannister. Consequently, it is possible to theoretically separate the leaders of the rebellion from Tywin/the Lannisters using the assumption that neither Robert, Ned, nor Jon Arryn knew of the deaths until they had already been committed, and thus, the burden of the deaths as “means” falls solely on the shoulders of the Lannisters. Although this absolves Robert, Ned, and Jon Arryn from a jus ad bellum perspective, it still maintains their culpability (specifically those who remained to reign over the 7K, Robert and Jon Arryn) for the deaths using a jus post bellum framework (they failed to impose justice upon those culpable for the crime).

A careful examination of RR using the framework of jus ad bellum to determine the justice of the war shows that because of Aerys’ actions leading up to the war, the participants were provided with both the requisite just cause as well as the requisite authority necessary for a declaration of just war. Therefore it is valid to assert that RR was justified from a jus ad bellum perspective

>>87049172
until they ruined him in WoW

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>>87049858
YOUR MOTHER WAS A DUMB BOOOOOOAR WITH A FAT WHOOOOOORE, YOU KNOW THAT?

>>87048681
All part of the flight plan.

>>87048351
I wouldn't be mad. Fire and Ice is a better house name than Fire and Blood. Because the former implies the joining of houses and should encourage peace, whereas the latter implies incestuous dragonfuckers ruling over everyone else and might encourage more rebellions. Assuming anyone lives, that is.

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>>87048900
this

>>87049831
Spaniards were white about 1000 years ago. Muhammed and the boys changed that for you.

>>87049848
post all great lords rn

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>>87049916
>tfw no one can refute this

New thread when

>>87049982
>tfw no one reads this

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>>87049884
This is a leftist rally in Spain.
Still whiter than any Amerishit crowd.

>>87049989
when we figure out if dorne is white

Spain is whiter than places like America or even France now tbqh.

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>>87050000

>>87049982

Reminder that in the show we didn't see Bobby on the throne once

>>87049455
I prefer a new version of the Night King the old one looks like a bad cgi

>>87050008
t. diego

>>87050008
You fucking dirty Spic, how dare you even show your greasy face around here after failing to provide a rip of your leaked episode

>>87050054
t. Pedro, LA

>>87049982
Nobody cares that Robert fought the war, it was what he did after that was the problem. He was the general grant of Westeros. A great commander but a complete fucking retard as the big cheese. He was incompetent and constantly allowed people to shit up his kingdom. When people say Rhaeger should've won it's because he would've been a better king. He was probably going to eventually kill his dad himself.

That said, rhaeger was also a dipshit who if let to continue ruling would've inevitably created just as big a clusterfuck as Robert since he decided that taking 2 wives and making 2 lines of succession with 2 Aegons was A-OK even though it would've infuriated one of the largest parts of the country and likely created another Blackfyre Rebellion.

In a way, Robert trying to wipe out both of rhaegars families probably did a lot of good for the kingdom.

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new

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>>87049975
King Vaegon rules from the Iron Throne, he's Jahaerys' son. Jahaerys never got to rule himself as he died of being too sickly. Aegon the Unlikely ruled for over 40-50 years and died of old age. Both him and Maester Aemon hatched dragons. I guess Vaegon is Aerys but with a shittier name and a Stalin stache. Oh yeah Duncan the Small is still alive too.

>>87048251
>Non White Shartmericans get called out on being mostly shitskins and max 30% white
STAY.MAD

>>87050097

Actually Robert did good, because he realised that he couldn't rule and left it to better man.

Jon Arryn fell for LF's shenanigans though and Cersei was just outright crazy. So tough luck.

If anything, you can blame Robert for keeping Varys around.