So if they hadn't "captured" a dragon how would

>>87017890

This was kind of my thinking as well. I don't get it.

>>87017890
By using all of their undead giants you fucking retard. If I ever catch you being so fucking retarded again I will fucking bash your skull in

>>87017890

In an earlier episode they mention how the sea around the wall will freeze over.

The theory in the book circle says the night king was gonna use some kind of magical horn.

Sounds kinda retarded but at least it's better than what the show gave us.

>>87017890
Conventional way. Breaking through gates. Or by freezing the ocean.

>>87017890
night king clearly has similar vision powers to Bran, so he probably saw into the future to know that Dany and her dragons were coming, so he planned to capture one to use to bring down the wall. Same reason he knew to have those giant fuck off chains from last episode.

Thats why they took so long. They simply couldnt get past the wall and tried to goad the westerosi into giving them something that could break it.

>>87018057
Go back

>>87018167
If the night king can see into the future then why can't he also see that he's going to get killed by the good guys?

>>87017890
R+L = REDDIT GOLD

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>>87017890

>>87018312
because he's not

they never intended to go over the wall, Jon was just autistic and provoked them over and over until enough was enough and he handed them a dragon.

>>87017890
this season was a fucking mess!

>>87017890
they would have used the chains to pull it down

>>87018134
There was a horn when they were at the Wall, but I guess they dropped that?

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>>87018158
>by freezing the ocean

>>87018167
This you dense fucks.

>>87018312
Do we know thats not his plan? You ever think he only descended to bring humanity together and find a replacement? He looks awfully happy to see Jon every time.

-Night King has magical powers.
-They have giants that can destroy the gate... same way the wildlings got in in the last assault.

> Zombies cant swim

Why aren't they building moats around every thing of value? If the walkers/night king try to freeze the water then just chuck that hot oil into it.

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>>87018134

What the show gave us is classic Greek tragedy; By trying to prevent something happening you actually cause it to happen. It is the pinnacle of irony. If Jon had just done nothing and everyone had completely ignored the walkers, everything would have been fine; they would be stuck on the other side of the wall forever.

/tv/ is too pleb to understand this

>>87017890
The would climb it, or break through the doors with one of their many giants.

The dragon just made things easier and faster.

>>87018595
>implying the gates of the wall are impenetrable when the wildlings have broken through before

>>87017890
Ask George R. R. Martin.

>>87018595
>If Jon had just done nothing and everyone had completely ignored the walkers, everything would have been fine;
proof?

>>87018558

But the Wall itself is a magical barrier, built so no undead may pass willingly, hense the need for the Horn of Winter to destroy the wall with its magic - the same way Euron's horn does shit i can't remember.

But they literally jsut got a dragon and melted the ice to pass.

>>87018466
Do you honestly think the ocean can't freeze?

>>87017890
It was their plan all along.

I was hoping Arya's hymen was going to be torn down this season via Gendry.

>>87018661
>>87018688

The wall is magic. It couldnt be passed or broken by the dead. It took a magic dragon to counter it.

>>87018569
just let them walk in the water and build a boat/bridge out of their bodies like ants.
Who cares for the lost zombies?
The Night King can always make more.

>>87018750
>The wall is magic. It couldnt be passed or broken by the dead. It took a magic dragon to counter it.
>It couldnt be passed or broken by the dead.
proof?

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>>87018595
>Greek tragedy
>COCKS ARE IMPORTANT, WHAT WOULD WE DO WITHOUT COCKS

>>87018706
If you can freeze an ocean you don't need an undead army to kill all living beings.

>>87018748

>Gendry meets Arya
>doesnt recognise her and thinks she is a boy again...because she is so ugly

pottery

>>87018692
This. By getting the dragon it saved a subplot line of getting the horn of winter.

Also Euron's horn controls dragons I think

>>87018312
>>87018473
>DUDE THE BAD GUY CAN SEE THE FUTURE AND EVERYTHING HAS BEEN GOING ACCORDING TO HIS PLAN ALL ALONG!

What absolute dogshit writing, holy fuck.

>>87018466
>magical super winter can't freeze water!!!!

>>87018817
Kek /tv/ really is the youngest board besides /v/

>>87018800

Greek tragedies were actually usually full of peurile humour involving genitals, usually cocks

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>>87018105
>frozen saltwater

>>87018595
Completely ignoring them would not have worked in the long run. But if they had manned the Wall fully with everyone armed with fire arrows and dragonglass weapons... well, they could probably last until their food ran out at least.

>>87018799
pretty sure its explained in the books or an earlier season

>>87018872
>polar ice caps dont exist

>>87018879

Yeah in the books Coldhands can't cross the hidden gate because he's undead

>>87018595
this, however /tv/ just loves shitting on the show and refuses to acknowledge that it is still quite good, despite not being the masterpiece that it used to be

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>>87017890

>>87018912
>comparing polar ice caps to a region filled with trees, vegetation and a variety of animals

>>87018879
>>87018925
this isnt the books you faggots.

proof or gtfo.

Why did the White Walker move so slowly? They could have at least tried jogging or something

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>>87018872
Ummm

>>87018799
benjen/CoF tell bran

>>87018957
>ocean cant freeze because its filled with trees

>>87018811
part of the ocean

ocean got more and more frozen in the intro btw

>>87018872
>Water can never ever freeze if theres some salt in it!
>not even magic from a zombie ice man freeze saltwater its literally impossible1!!!!!

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>>87018872
>doesn't understand basic science

Is Thormund kill?

>>87019001
how can you miss the point so much. what I am saying is that temperature wouldn't drop as much as in the poles hence making it impossible to form such dense layers of ice you dumbfuck

>>87019025
>benjen = night king and his army
holy shit

>>87018595
t. I don't understand Greek tragedies

>>87019064
>temperature wont drop because of muh trees when there's no sunlight at all

>>87019064
Proof?

>>87019064
Utterly ridiculous.

Go back to school, kiddo.

>>87018346
>800ft high wall
>only 100k soilders
>wall has magic to stop walkers
Try again, hopefully something better

>>87019133
>>87019130
omg are you idiots

>>87017890
its pleb show, just stop pretending they are competent writers

>>87019102

thats not how t. works

>>87019130
are you a retard unable to discern from cause and effect? tress are a result of the not-low-enough-to-freeze-ocean-water temperature not the other way around Jesus Christ

>>87019213
>omg are you idiots
>no argument
fuck off retard

I thought it was painfully obvious why the writing of the show was so bad?

While it was wonky, before when they were adapting such large books into a show it could work, having so much detail to draw from let the show be very rich, even while barely adapting a small fraction of the books.

However now they working from the "Rough outlines"(GRRM doesn't make actual outlines of his novels) of two 1500(at least) page books.

Rather than actually making up a detailed backstory for the events going on they have just filled in all the blanks with fan service.

>>87019244
>its as cold as its ever going to be at this exact moment in game of thrones

>>87019133
>>87019195
show me a picture of any of the poles with a fucking huge forest like North of the Wall

>>87019292
Show me a picture of Wight Walkers

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>>87019292
>he thinks GOT is a nature documentary

>>87019082
Yes they are the same thing, what's your point?

>>87019292
Show me anyplace on earth with a Fuck huge ice wall and I'll show you frozen ocean

>>87018473

It's like Judas. God has a plan to save mankind without killing everyone with a new flood. This time he'll sacrifice his only son to atone for our sins. But in order for his plan to work, Judas had to betray Jesus.

Jesus came back to life but Judas ended up hanging himself and suffered the eternal damnation of hell. All to save mankind. Judas made the bigger sacrifice and is the real hero of the Bible.

>>87019389
>>87019366
>>87019437
I'm just expecting consistency. It's obviously a fantasy show but as far as I can tell the world they inhabit follows the same basic physical laws as ours.

anyway, I give up, you normies win

>>87018692
Why are so many people fucking retarded and don't realise/remember this? No undead can pass beyond the Wall because of its magic, so without the dragon the zombies couldn't do shit to break down the gates or anything.

However, my gripe with it was this: wasn't there this whole big deal about how the Night King touched Brann? Like wasn't it suggested that, because that happened, the Night King could somehow get past the wall? Or was I just high at that point?

>>87017890
>>87017963
NK is a green-seer, you fucking idiots. He knew the dragons would come.

>>87019631
>implying that explains anything and it's not a paradox itself

>>87019502
>this world with huge dragons, magic steel, etc should have the same physics as Earth despite the fact a bird that size is physically impossible

Ok, kid.

Like I said, go back to school.

>>87019616

I thought that might have been the implication, and was why Benjen was acting weird when he took him back to the wall, but I guess they dropped it for the money shots of killing a dragon and then having it shoot a blue laser to bring down the wall.

>>87018817
>>87018312
Just because you have the ability to see, doesn't mean you will notice everything. Look up in real life. You won't see a sky, even though you have the ability to see. Why? Because it's occluded by the fucking ceiling.

Why do people have this stupid idea that the moment you're able to see the future you'll always know exactly what's going to happen in every situation?

>>87019616
yeah people were saying that by the Night King 'connecting' with Bran like that he broke the seal on the magic which stopped him from passing the wall, not confirmed but most likely why that scene was included

>>87019502
Same laws.... Ok so if there is a large structure of ice on our planet the water around it freezes. Why can't you understand this.

>>87019631
Night King: Don't mind me, just sitting here for 100+ years or whatever it is for dragons to come back so I can steal one to destroy this wall.

>>87019684
do you even know what fantasy is? can Aragorn jump 10 meters in The Lord of the Rings?

>>87019398
>retards actually believe this

>>87019722
>>87019742
So it was implied? That's such bullshit to then be like "Oh wait, a dragon shooting fire-ice (the fuck was that anyway?) at the Wall and destroying it is cooler than Bran completely fucking things up during his training to become the 3-Eyed Raven and accidentally giving Satan a free pass beyond the Wall"?

>>87019777
Why not? If you are able to live hundreds of years or even thousands and are fighting people that live far less then your greatest weapon is time.

>>87019786
Yes, he can.

Have you even read LOTR?

>>87018872
salt only makes the freezing temperature to be lower, it doesn't make water impossible to frozen

>>87019786
>can Aragorn jump 10 meters in The Lord of the Rings?
No, but Legolas probably can.

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>>87019737
The amount of shit he would have had to seen to know that jon&dany would be there at that exact time, knowing exactly where the dragon would fly so he could auto lock his javelin like an Olympic gold winner, but yeah he just can't see that jon is gonna cuck him.

Just admit it's absolutely horrible writing. This is also coming from grrm who made GOT as a response to terrible fantasy cliches and writing, yet he ends up doing the exact same shit.

>>87018595
>If Jon had just done nothing and everyone had completely ignored the walkers, everything would have been fine; they would be stuck on the other side of the wall forever.
More than that, if Dany had never come to Westeros the wall would be standing. She's Azor Ahai, and Azor Ahai is the villain.

>>87020138
>This is also coming from grrm
No it isn't. GRRM hasn't written an episode since season 4.

>>87019823

Yes

But i think they have been going with 'the zombies get a dragon' for a long time. the bran thing might have been a backup

>bring the face of a white walker to arya
>she becomes one of them
>kills the biggest boss with dragonglass
the end

That's the whole fucking point. Greenseer Night King has planned this from the very beginning. Why did they attack Hardhome at the exact same day Jon arrived? It was to scare Jon and show him the true enemy. That's why he taunts him.

Why didn't they march on the wall for 7 seasons? It's cause he knew he needed the dragon.

Last episode they sent a small party out that was there to find Jon. Knowing Dany would come for him with 3 dragons, they waited patiently at the frozen lake. As soon as Dany came, he aimed for Viserion, knowing the time to strike and that it was to be his dragon. That's why his throw at Drogon is so half-assed.


It's very heavy handedly explained in the show, yet most of the spastics here didn't get it.
I mean yeah the show is stupid, but even the writing in s7 is beyond your intellect.

>>87020252
iT'S HIS STORY DUMBASS.

>>87020405

I feel like its less 'he knew' and more 'hey if we are awake again, the dragons are probably awake again. Lets take it slow and hopefully they will send a dragon to us that we can use to break the wall'

>>87017890
by digging a tunnel?

>>87020405
>It's very heavy handedly explained in the show, yet most of the spastics here didn't get it.

I understand the show, I'm just saying it's retarded as shit and some of the worst writing I have seen in years.

>As soon as Dany came, he aimed for Viserion

Why didn't the omnipotent night king just shoot drogon who was on the ground for like 1min+ or have one of his other blue goons do it, and take out dany and the rest of the party, while he focuses on viserion?

Also, give me a proper answer as to why he can't see that he's going to lose in the end? Or is that just one of the few things he just happens not to see for some contrived retarded reason?

>>87019292
show me your cunt

>>87020758
It's because he's not going to lose.

>>87019292
I live in Norway. We do have trees, even if the sea freezes over in the winter.

Is a population of one million realistic for one castle?

>>87018865
>...he said after reading zero (0) Greek tragedies
kys retard

>>87020758
probably because seeing into the future requires actually seeing the place where the future event happens. If he doesn't know what Westeros looks like he can't envision himself being killed there.

>>87018057
This you fucking twats.

NK getting a dragon just meant he could expedite his plans. When the United States developed the atom bomb they put it to use fairly quickly did they not? Its fucking war

>>87020758
Im guessing the spears dont actually just explode on their own and he had to hit the dragons in the throat while they charged up their fire.
Drogon wasn't breathing fire while he was landed so the spear wouldnt have exploded.

Also maybe the other WW dare him to try and hit the ones that are flying and the Nights King aint no bitch ass nigga who would turn down a challange like that.

>>87021053
yeah its the whole fire thing, wouldn't have damaged Drogon much cause he wasn't breathing fire. Would've done the same as the ballista shot from Bronn.

>>87017890
Knight King had a backup, swimming coaches(But winter would have taken another 500 years to get there so dragons).

>>87021000
Did your mom drop you on your head as a baby?

>>87021053
>the others/WW/night king are all actauly turbo chads
>NK is only attacking because an other drunkenly bet he couldn't do it

Why didn't they just walk at the bottom of the ocean around the wall?

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>>87021053
>Im guessing the spears dont actually just explode on their own and he had to hit the dragons in the throat while they charged up their fire.

Here's drogon shooting fire on the ground, but ok just keep defending this retarded writing.

what is the Night King's master plan?

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>>87017890
BRAN IS THE NIGHT KING.

NK HAS BEEN WAITING FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS FOR HIMSELF AS A MORTAL TO BE BORN. THE CHILDREN BETRAYED HIM BY TURNING HIM INTO A COLD SHELL TO KILL OTHER HUMANS.

HE MARKED BRAN IN THE CAVE TO WEAKEN THE ENCHANTMENTS ON THE WALL LAID BY THE CHILDREN OF THE FOREST. HE WAITED WITH THREE SPEARS FOR THREE DRAGONS. HE ONLY GOT ONE AND WAS DISAPPOINTED.

>"You will never walk again, but you will fly" -Three Eyed Raven.

Remember: Bran FELT the impact in the cave of the dragonglass hitting the chest of the sacrificed man. He grimaced and clenched the vines as it went in. This implies he WARGED into the man becoming the NK.

>>87021603
Wall Beneath The Depths would've stopped them

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>>87021053
Literally just throw a spear at this moment and end it right here

>>87021847
It's well-established that only dragon's underbellies are weak. Cal Drogon was in a defensive position, you tard.

Also, the other dragon didn't die from the spear, it died from hitting the ground with such force.

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>>87022301
>It's well-established that only dragon's underbellies are weak

The night king's spear doesn't even hit viserion's underbelly though you retard. It hits his neck and falls down.

He could have done the same thing to drogon or even say fuck it and use his super aimbot skills to take out dany or any of the other people there, but nah fuck it, plot armor.

>>87017890

Because the night king is a green seer like bran and knew with the return of daenerys, she'd eventually come north.

>>87022626
Nice screenshot.

That is the exit wound , you tard.

>>87017890
So if they hadn't killed Robb and Catelyn how would the Bolton's have held Winterfell? Why is the writing so bad?

>>87020138
>The amount of shit he would have had to seen to know that jon&dany would be there at that exact time, knowing exactly where the dragon would fly so he could auto lock his javelin like an Olympic gold winner, but yeah he just can't see that jon is gonna cuck him.
Again, no, you can't assume that he would've seen anything. We don't have any way to know what seeing this vision shit is like. The closest we have is that weird sequence Dany had in the House of the Undying. Imagine trying to navigate in a situation like that. Would you still say that he would have to have seen all the shit about Dany and Jon?

Seeing the future might just be as cryptic for him as it is for everybody else. Some things might be very clear, others might not. There might be things he can't see past of as well, so he has no idea how things turn out.

I have the same problem with time travel stories. Everybody seems to always think that the moment you can travel through time in a story it means that you can go to any moment. Yet, if you were to think of it in a more realistic sense you would equate it to something like walking. Just because you can potentially move around it doesn't mean you can go to any place that exists. And to get to some places will take a very large amount of effort (eg walking a very long distance).

It could be shit writing, but we don't know that, because we lack the information surrounding it to make that call.

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>>87022733
This right here is the exact shot before the spear hits, does it look it it hits the dragon's underbelly? You're welcome to watch the video on youtube yourself.

How much is hbo paying you to defend the show?

>>87022733

Are you retarded?

>>87022733
>>87022874
btw not even bronn's spear hits drogon's underbelly and that spends drogon flying into a fucking lake.

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>>87022874

Night King threw from Green direction. Spear came from Red direction.

Who was spear?

>>87018750
bran crossed it, ruining the magic

>>87023136
dude you are fucking retarded as shit, just admit you lost and move on

>>87018936
My butt is still hurt from the way they killed him off.

All for some lame sisterhood stronk moment.

>>87017890
With the horn of winter, but now that is off the table.

>>87023252

>implying im that retard that thinks oceans can freeze

Think again friendo

did they fixed the hole on his neck?

>>87017890
>So if they hadn't "captured" a dragon how would they go through the wall?
chip away at the wall with the spears they used on the dragon

>>87023415
I think you're talking to the wrong guy, I have never brought up anything about oceans or whatever they can freeze.

good try, but youre still wrong about the underbelly thing friendo

>>87017890
i thought they was going to use those chains to bring down the wall?

>>87023599

The wall is magic, magic can only destroyed with magic, dragons are magic. Which is why the night king waited it out for daenerys to bring a dragon to him to kill and turn.

>>87023649
>dragons are magic
Why are there no other magicool beasts?
Unless the midget counts as one.

>>87018595
just like in kung fu panda when the messenger bird frees the evil snow leopard

>>87018799
>>87018958
Benjen couldn't cross the wall because he was dead, the wall was made with magic and the dead can't enter it without magic shit, like the three eyed ravens hovel bran stayed in for like five year

>>87020405
he hit the dragon with the spear by accident, he was aiming for the wall

>>87019292
The ocean freezes where I live in Nova Scotia and NS is literally further south than the UK and parts of France.

>>87018167
/thread

It was obviously a trap from the Night King in episode 6 to get the dragons come beyond the Wall. The icy spears were made for killing a dragon, nothing else. He needed the dragon's breath to melt the wall. He is a greenseer like Bran.

>>87017890
D&D actually said in the 'inside the episode' that no, had it not been for the Dragon there's no reason the Wall would have fallen.

>>87017890
Everything since season 1 was manipulated by the nights king.

>>87022815
>Again, no, you can't assume that he would've seen anything.

Then why are people in this thread acting as if the night king knew for years what would happen that day on the lake and was just chilling for 100+ years just waiting for that day to come?

The rules for how much the night king can or cannot see has not yet been established in the show nor the books and that's why I have a problem with these retards.

When I ask them why the night king can't see that he's going to lose to jon and the good guys, then suddenly when the plot demands it the night king apparently has problems seeing the future.

>>87023712
Podricks cock.

If the wall can't be passed or broken by the dead

How the fuck did they get a wight or whatever to the capital?

>>87018595
Is she signalling her allegience to ISIS with this pic?

>>87024829
They transported the wight on a boat

>>87024920
Aaaah right, gotcha, cheers

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>>87018595
>tfw you're not the only /tv/ faggot to have read the Oresteia.

>>87019102
It's true, you don't.

>>87024947
Hang about though didn't they have to take it past the wall to get to the coast where the boat was?

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>>87022301
The dragons defense scales with how much screen size he takes up from the camera

>>87020138
All he needed to learn with clairvoyance was

1. Dragons were returning to Westeros in the winter of his rising that
2. Friends of the dragon queen would come across the wall to take a wight

The rest is good strategy. He knew the three eyed raven is naive and would reveal his position. He knew where he could use the landscape to trap the heroes as bait. He had ice javelins ready months before any of it happened because he suspected he'd encounter dragons eventually.

>"Weeks" were wizzing by while the undead army was stuck just a day's jog to East Watch
>"We need to stop them now!"

It's all Jon's fault, the wall was doing it purpose, yet no one asked how they would get past the wall. His stupid plan to capture one was the cause of the walls destruction.

>>87020405
>Why didn't they march on the wall for 7 seasons? It's cause he knew he needed the dragon.
This. And it also gave him time to grow his army as large as possible.

> As soon as Dany came, he aimed for Viserion, knowing the time to strike and that it was to be his dragon.
He didn't actually need to foresight to do any of it. He doesn't even need the magical hindsight. Just being able to greensee in the present would let him know what his next moves should be. Half of what's going on is that he's a wise and experienced general.

>>87022301
>>87022626
The ice javelins were supernaturally hard and sharp, and created by the NK for the sole purpose of piercing dragon hide. He didn't have an unlimited supply to spam as suppressing fire. Suppressing the enemy wasn't even his strategy.

>>87026129
>The ice javelins were supernaturally hard and sharp, and created by the NK for the sole purpose of piercing dragon hide. He didn't have an unlimited supply to spam as suppressing fire

And this was explained when? Or are you just assuming shit like everybody else in this thread?

>>87018595
>Greek tragedy
>To nonsensically write a "wight hunt"
>Then nonsensically write them getting trapped
>Then nonsensically write them getting saved by dragons
>Then nonsensically have them lose one dragon but no others.

Its shit.

>>87026239

Mentioned in the books, showfag.

>>87026649
Source?

>>87026649
A tv show should be able to stand on its own without the need to read additional books, at this point they're practically irrelevant anyway.

Also, point me to the part in the books where they explain that. I'm pretty sure you're lying about it.

>>87026239
You know they're supernaturally hard and sharp from seeing how the other White Walker mele weapons work.
You know the supply is small because you can see his lieutenant take them out of a saddle holster, not from a sledge or cart.
You know they're purpose-built because each one is the size of a scorpion bolt.

Is it really this hard for you to deduce? The writers are practically spoonfeeding you.

>>87018569
>I failed thermodynamics 1

>>87018569
It doesn't really matter if they can swim if they can't drown. They can just walk along the bottom until they reach an opposite shore. You know this is possible because you know the wights who fell into the lake attached the chains to Viserion's corpse.

>>87018158
But muh cold rolled steel

>>87026815
>>87026783

I'm not gonna look through and cite the exact pages. Do your own research. I'll give you a simple answer here though. Don't care if you think anyones making shit up, you're the confused ones. For some reason you guys have a problem with the concept of white walkers being magic.

http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/White_Walker_ice_blade

>>87019616
>>87019742
>>87019823
The NK can project his greensight beyond the wall. It's how he knew about the dragons.

Bran aand the NK were both physically north of the wall when the psychic contact occured, but that didn't even matter. Just connecting with Bran didn't break the seals, which were ancient, powerful, and unconnected to the Three Eyed Raven. What touching Bran in the astral plane -did- do for the NK was reveal the TER's location.

>>87026822

>is it really this hard for you to deduce?
Yes, 60%+ of the people watching this show are retarded.

>>87026822
So the night king had 100+ years to prepare and only made 1 javelin and aimed it at the flying dragon rather than the biggest one that's on the ground with all the main characters.

>>87018167
Bran can't see the future, and neither can the NK. Neither of them needed foresight to accomplish what they have so far. In this episode Bran explicitly stated that he could see the present and the past, and didn't mention the future.

When he says "I need to do so and so because I'm the Three Eyed Raven" it's not because he sees the future. It's because he understands the duties of the role.

>>87027246
Read the entire thing, it doesn't say anything about their weapons being made for the sole purpose of piercing dragon hide. Nor does it say anything about them having a limited supply of them.

Good job making it all up in an attempt to try and make the tv show make sense you retard.

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>>87017890
>muh shit writing XD
>am i right guys lol
>I fit in :DDDD

You faggots are not better than those cunts in the bar videos, you're just in a different circle jerk.

Also i think they did a phenomenal job with the sound design on the undead dragon. It sounds fucking terrifying.

>>87027381
>So the night king had 100+ years to prepare and only made 1 javelin
You could see he had at least two. He may have had more. But there was nothing in that episode to suggest that he had unlimited ammo. And a large stockpile wouldn't do him much good: his only launching platform was his own arm.

>and aimed it at the flying dragon rather than the biggest one that's on the ground with all the main characters.
He started by targeting a dragon that was currently destroying his army. Drogon wasn't. He took out the immediate threat first.

>>87027781
Dude just turn your brain off! Didn't that dragon sound cool you guys?

>>87023934
He was aiming at God.

>>87019207
Why is 'soldier' such a difficult word to spell for retarded Americunts?

>>87017890
>>87017963
>>87018057
>>87018105
>>87018134
>>87018158


A handful of wildilings was able to scale the walls and almost beat the nights watch.

The night king has an army of atleast 100K+ mean, giants, bears, direwolves. He could just have scaled the wall conventionally.

My problem with the wall thin is that it is said the wall is supposed to have protective magic. Yet nothing.

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>>87027822
I mean it, you people are beyond fucking pathetic.

Did anyone else laugh when viscerion swooped in like a missile?

>>87027758

I did, now quit being a faggot and go read the books before you start claiming others are retarded. Here's another obvious thing that you probably are gonna look at say 'duuuude lmao': the Night King is a green seer. But no one said it, so it can't be true right?

>>87018912
soon enough they wont

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>>87018872
self asserted smart guy in thread turns out to be dumb.

>>87027924
The magic probably works primarily against White Walkers and the NK.

We have also never seen a wight south of the wall that wasn't drug there by a living human. We know for sure that the magic wards had some effect because Benjen Stark couldn't cross, and said so.

>>87027924
the protective magic was defeated when the NK put his mark on Bran, and then Bran went to the other side of the wall.

>>87017890
>NK throws super powerful lances at key positions in the wall
>it falls
woah so difficult

>>87027821
>his only launching platform was his own arm.

Judging by how he aimbotted the first dragon he could easily have taken out drogon after viserion fell instead of just giving jon and the others a menacing look for 20 seconds.

And what about his two other blue goons just standing there watching doing nothing?

>>87019737
By your absolute shit analogy, if I wanted to see the sky, I would go outside and look at it.

>>87028057
Why were they able to break it and cross it than?

Also I don't understand why the walkers don't just cross the ocean to the side. The knight king can put out flames but doesn't have the magic to make an ice bridge.

>>87028064
>the protective magic was defeated when the NK put his mark on Bran, and then Bran went to the other side of the wall.

There is nothing in the show to suggest this is the case. It's just a /tv/ meme. The "mark" only told the NK where to find Bran when he was north of the wall.

>>87027927
>Precious booty.jpg

Calls other people pathetic lol. Why don't you go jerk off to anime and video game characters you fucking loser?

>>87028080
There's a special space in hell for the kind of nerds that takes what happens on screen frame for frame as the gospel truth.

The story on screen should always be taken as a romanticized retell of the original, not a literal measure stick for anything.

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>>87028149
>Why were they able to break it and cross it than?
Because dragons are magic, Ser Davos.

>>87027978
You claimed something was true and was in the books, you provided a link that says nothing to support your argument and now you sperg out.

Go fuck yourself you brain-dead retard. Like Sam and the rangers at the start of the first book are the only ones who have interacted with the white walkers.

We know so little of them in the books and you come up with some retarded theory to make sense of you favorite fanfiction show and then cry when you're called out.

>>87028359
fewer

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>>87028285
Good idea

I will just let you some petyr
https://my.mixtape.moe/jogiwn.mp4

>>87028555
checked. There goes my no-fap

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>>87027923
>got so buttblasted that he had to resort to calling out somebody's typo

>>87028297

>There's a special space in hell for the kind of nerds that takes what happens on screen frame for frame as the gospel truth.

Sounds like an excuse to avoid criticism of badly shot scenes desu family

>>87018413
This is the correct answer

>>87028080
Drogon dodged. Viseron was otherwise occupied. We don't know why he wasn't hurling them as fast as possible. Maybe for him that was as fast as possible. Maybe super javelin throwing has a cooldown.

Staring down Jon Snow could also have been a psychological warfare tactic, much like taunting him at Hardhome. So far the NK is two for two on Snow, and it's all because of mistakes Jon made out of fear.

Every time I point out a flaw in your assessment you move the goalpost, because you have an axe to grind. Fine. The writing's shitty. Enjoy the thread.

>>87028297
>The story on screen should always be taken as a romanticized retell of the original
And shows and movies should just be taken as romantic storytelling in general. It's very hard to produce film and television with no continuity errors, much less use subtle continuity details to create a trail of clues to unravel. Very few directors can do it and it takes them years of writing and production.

>>87028668
I can't jerg it to cartoons. Jacking off to another man's fantasy feels gay.

>>87017890
They were building a ladder of chaosh to pass over the wall

>>87019777
if the Starks had not surrendered to Aegon the first, the long night would have happened a lot sooner

>>87028814
Drogon would have dodged shit when on ground without tossing everyone into the lake and/or wight horde.

>>87020138
At some point, embracing a cliche becomes subverting it in his own writing.
If everyone expects only subversions, then not subverting it is in fact subverting it.

>>87028814
>Drogon dodged.
>We don't know why he wasn't hurling them as fast as possible

Because dany,jon and drogon has plot armor. He could have easily thrown a spear at a drogon on the ground instead of giving jon a menacing look for "psychological warfare" and walked away with 2 dragons and all the main characters dead.

>Every time I point out a flaw in your assessment you move the goalpost,

Every time I point out a flaw you keep finding more and more nonsensical reasons to defend what was easily one of the worst action scenes in the show's history.

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>>87028448

The only thing you've called out is your leddit spacing. No one's arguing with you retard, I'm just not gonna google shit for you. Now fuck off back.

>>87029237
>No one's arguing with you retard

apparently you are, and doing a shit job at it as well.

>I'm just not gonna google shit for you.

You did google shit for me though, and your source actually supported my argument. Can't imagine how cucked you must feel.

NK looked dumb as shit jiggling up and down on the undead dragon.

>>87029457
From the way they move it looks like the minions are controlled telepathically. He probably didn't need to ride it at all. But wouldn't you?

>>87019673
It isn't a paradox, in that it's literally GOD WILLS IT.
Even if there is not intelligent god entity in GoT, the mere fact that the future can be seen before it happens, means that there is some plan in place, even if it's a sort of deterministic physics sort of deal, where seeing the future is just a form of Monkey Paw where you're damned if you do, damned if you don't look into the future.

We can go deeper in the nitpicking: it's a thick, 800 feet high wall, and even if it does break, there's a very limited space for the broken ice to go; especially when it didn't seem to melt much. They only broke a small portion of the wall, so there would be a limited space for the ice to go without being moved. It'd probably just settle into a (still) very high mound, whilst killing a couple of the wights.

So which dead characters will come back as wight seeing its gone full wow

>>87018419
Sam has the real horn with him, it was the one found among the small hoard of dragonglass weapons.

>>87030002
They didn't focus in too closely, but a lot of the wall collapsed into the sea. I assume that's where most of the ice went.

>>87018912
polar ice caps aren't salt water though

>>87027924
that's probably what those giant chains were for, scaling the wall

>>87030155
Fair enough

>>87018750
>>87018661
Wildlings took boats around it

>>87023136
There was a second spear from the grass knoll

>>87017890
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxAdt9c6QeQ

>>87019631

THIS. You don't think he had the wights just wait around for kicks do you? It was a trap.

>>87017890
>>87017963
You complete fucking retard they have countless gates made of fucking wood and shit. They could literally just batter them down and there simply too many of them to guard every single one.

Not to mention they have to sleep they could literally just run up and down the walls until the Knight's Watch pass out due to exhaustion and walk through the wall.

>>87019062
no

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>>87019438
>Judas ended up hanging himself
I thought he fell on his own sword in a field

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>>87019438
>Jesus came back to life but Judas ended up hanging himself and suffered the eternal damnation of hell. All to save mankind. Judas made the bigger sacrifice and is the real hero of the Bible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzDoeYopJgg
I didn't expect to become Judas' Priest today.

why does the white walker dragon shit breathe fire tho, i dont get it. isnt fire like the biggest weakness of these undead, wouldnt it breathing fire destroy itself?

or is it somehow shooting a retarded ice beam like some people are saying. i dont get it.

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>>87017890
>Its another bunch of mouthbreathers blaming the show when they are too dumb to pay attention episode.

Its fucking hilarious that there is people that cant understand basic shit like Game do Thrones top kek

>>87026649
You faggot the last book ends with Jon getting stabbed by the nights watch and most likely warging into Ghost.That's literally as far as we've gotten.

>>87034364
dude don't even bother, this thread is full of /got/ posters trying their hardest to flimsily defend a show that has thrown all logic out of the window.

>>87018384
too many magic this and magic that

>>87018811
the amount of heat energy or whatever energy the ice dragon would need to melt or take down the wall was enormous -- if the dragon was that powerful, there isn't even a need for the army

this show sucks ass

Oceans are hard to freeze because of saltwater and lots of movement from currents/tides

>>87034918
Dude just turn off your brain, this show is no longer for the people who liked it in the earlier seasons.

>>87027781

Be like this guy and enjoy the cool sounds

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>>87028909
wow, that's interesting

>>87035004

the should have cranked the dragon's power down so that it was gradually destroying one segment of the wall... but slowly

this would at least build some tension, and give the armies time to arrive

>>87021730
why isn't he in a wheelchair then?

Jon finally did it, he bend Dany.

>>87020928
Rome had a population of a million at the height of the empire. It's feasible for a medieval city to reach that size, if unlikely.

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>>87034788
This.

>bring wight to cersei to show her they're real
>wight gets loose, charges cersei
>gets within a few feet of her face, but is held back by chains at the last second
>mountain just fucking stands there and watches the whole thing happen with his undead dick in his hand

Show is shit now. Time to move on.

>>87035004
These cost Millions to make

>I like the sounds.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA

>>87031144
*Icy knoll

>>87035382
Remember in season 1 when Drogo got fucked by a single festering wound?

Remember last episode when Jon fell into icy frozen waters and rode hours on a horse and didn't die from hypothermia?

Whatever happened to the consistency on this show?

>>87035572
Arya getting stabbed in the gut and dumped in an open city sewer.
At least the show has been consistently shit for a long time now.

>>87017890
If they had been able to get through the wall without a dragon, they woulda done it centuries ago, don't you think?

>>87017890
>>87017963
The wights can go over the wall as they please despite the magic, so they could have just defeat the night's watch and torn the wall down.

>>87027927
>virgin.
>unmarried.
>doesn't own property.
>posting CGI softcore porn.
GoT has sucked for a long time. After season 3, it went to shit. Its fucking superficial garbage. Game of Thrones has to hit certain HBO beats and it does it well. Action, Vulgarity, Pornography. This is what is defines HBO. Throw in a few good episodes, a magic midget who everyone loves and some hints of good story telling and you have a hit.

HBO plays on basic carnal desires to get good ratings. "ok" story/ writing +Porn= "Good". Imagine Game of Thrones- all nudity. Does it hold up? Maybe, but the ratings would be much lower. It common trash made for the immoral masses of high time preference retard Americans.
However, HBO takes it a step further. The show is now being written with fan in mind. Which leads to Disney tier pandering.

Lets be real. "Lost" as shitty as that show was, was better then GoT. The first 2 seasons of Dexter was better then anything GoT put out.

GoT sucks ass. And I'm glad I never gave those filthy kikes a fucking dime. I say, don't watch the show, or exclusively pirate it.

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>>87019631
You are overthinking it, D&D are fucking retards.

Remember when people thought Arya didn't really let herself get stabbed 20 times in the abdomen and then get thrown into sewage water with deep open wounds? And that there was something else going on like she was trapping the faceless assasin girl and then we found out it just ended up being shit writing?

>>87017890
>So if they hadn't "captured" a dragon how would they go through the wall? Why is the writing of this show so bad?
They wouldn't. Hence why they hadn't marched south until now. They needed a dragon.

>>87018872
>American education

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Hm, horn of winter breaks the wall. Euron has a horn that controls dragons. Maybe the horn of winter also controls dragons and makes them shatter the wall.

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>mfw this entire show winds us being the fantasies of a crippled bran who's been locked in a vegetative state since being tossed off that tower

>>87026649

Stfu liar

>>87036277
White Walkers: Dude lets just chill out here for 6000 years until a dragon comes and we can take down the wall!

The absolute state of this series

>>87036383
>6000 years
When has that ever been stated?

>>87017890
there is a narrow gap that can be crossed at the Shadow Tower D&D haven't read the books though so they don't know about it

>>87036427
The children of the forest created the night king and they were last seen about 6000 years ago.

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>>87029185
meta man

>>87036427
i think his point is if dany didnt bring the dragon there then they would still be waiting there for 6000 or longer, cus without the dragon they wouldnt get past the wall.

>>87036488
He clearly knew the dragons were coming.

>>87036530
ok but if dany decided not to go there then he would of had to stay there forever. unless he somehow has another way

>>87036571
>>87036530

>>87036530
how did he know the dragons were coming anyway, i cant remember when it was stated he could see the future, but then again this shows long so i could of forgotton.

>>87018595
she's so hot in this outfit

>>87036651
>i cant remember when it was stated he could see the future
It wasn't. It may or may not be true.

>>87036651
He can see the future so good to the point that he can plan this dragon capture mission without any real casualties or issues, but won't see the future where he gets fucked by the good guys.

Just don't think about it too much.

DELETE

Why do trolls that keep defending this shit still invent explanations? If the show doesn't show something, it's not your job to make up a reason for why it's there anyway. If they show the unsullied growing a still cock that they can launch forward as a missile i have no problem with it as long as they give me a scene where a credible reason is explained. If to make sense of something you have to speculate, it's just a plot hole.

>>87036887
Non autistic people can read between the lines. They don't need everything spelt out for them.

>>87036931
Na mate, they just don't care. They simply accept it as it is. Like gospel in the middle ages.

>>87030141
Yeah but the writers forgot about that plotline awhile ago

>>87028223
retard, the old 3eyedraved said the mark made the protective magic useless when they were in the tree cave they were sheltering in.

>>87036985
>>87036931
Why can't super assasin arya just teleport behind the night king and kill him?

>>87036691
but if he cant see the future or some shit how does this theory work >>87036530

>>87037288
The night king IS Arya.

>>87037320
It doesn't. That's why I think he can see the future in some capacity.

>>87036221
Arya is dead faggot.

>>87023713
that prison cave was unnerving

>>87019631
Nailed it.

He's been waiting how long? You think it's just a coincidence and he woke up because he loves fucking Tuesdays? He knew the dragons would come and timed his attack to exploit that.

>>87018872
>fantastical winters that can last centuries

>>87037823
maybe he woke up cus it was winter?

>>87023339
But he was an idiot though. He might have had sound analytical skills, but never did anything to address his reputation and unlike-ability. Never would have ruled.

>>87037994
It's been winter before. There weren't any white walker attacks on the wall.

>>87018661
>>87018688
Maybe the Night King just wanted to make the north great again, maybe he just wanted to kick those free folks niggers out and then live happily ever after north of the wall.
But now those nigs came back and abducted Johny the Wight before cruelly murdering him. That calls for vengeance

>>87019631
yet the NK will die, we all know that, how come he can't see that?

>>87036887
thats easy to write/explain, they just eat handful of gluten beforehand

>>87036348
OBSESSED
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>>87019616
>>87018692
>>87019742
>>87019823
Undead can go past the wall retards. How do you think they brought a wight through and all the way to kings landing?

Giants, building a small plank bridge over the water around the wall's end, freeze any of the waterways shown on the map, etc etc

>>87038833
They flew it over using a magical dragon.

>>87038644
what is dead may never die

>>87018312
kek reminded me of Mushoku Tensei.

>>87018167
Do you think he saw Sansa on the night of her wedding too?

>>87038833
a boat?

>>87031458

dont be ignorant, the gates are set up to be frozen over if they need to be.

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Who cares you fucking nerds, dat dragon was cool and reminded of the WoW glory days.

>Dat blue fire
>dat skeletal wings
>dat cool wall crumbling

>>87018872
based baitman

>>87018865
you read that on some website?