Why didn't anyone tell me this was literal Sopranos tier

>>86736470
Hands down best show I've ever seen, and only gets better each season

>>86736470
Yes, it's brilliant. The only negative thing about it is Weiners unconditional blind love for his absolutely talentless son.

>>86736594
Still baffles me how someone can write a show this incredible, but still not realise that casting his fucking son is an awful idea.

>>86736642
And lost Sal because of it in the process.

>>86736470
Yeah, it's great.

>>86736470
You haven't seen anything, get ready for feels train.

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>>86736470

It's even more kino than the Sopranos because it doesn't rely on le epic Mafia gangster shit

>>86736594
Wait, Glen was his son? I had no idea. I liked Glen though.

>>86736815
Yeah he was. It wasn't terrible since he only appeared like once a season and barely had any lines, but still took me out of what was otherwise a flawless show.

>>86736770
Exactly, it took a context so mundane as advertising and turned it into something so beautiful.

>>86736846
I think he was used effectively though. As a mirror to the shit going on with Betty and Sally. Not a terribly great actor though.
Anyway to OP yes Mad Men is an amazing show. It ages like wine and every time I watch it it gets better. You've already seen one of the greatest scenes "The Carousel" and it just keeps happening.

>>86736470
It's a great show, but why the cast decided on these god awful facial expressions for this pic is beyond me.

I'm in the middle of a rewatch right now and holy fuck how did I forget that scene with roger in blackface

jesus

>>86736873
Honestly the way the advertising, 60s events and character drama were blended was masterful. I only watched 1 season of The Sopranos (not a fan of mafia/crime shows) but it seemed like the personal/family drama was always separate to the mafia stuff.
It's hard to appreciate on a first viewing but every product being sold reflects whats happening to the characters, and the large historical events sync up with smaller scale events happening to them The chaos after JFK's assassination syncing up with Don's failing marriage for example
I could honestly go on forever about how much I love this show.

>>86737140
When Don realizes that his marriage with Megan is also falling apart after Robert Kennedy is shot
POTTERY

the most natural depiction of time passing on television

Enjoy it OP it gets even better

please get out of this thread before you get spoiled OP
there are some 10/10 hilarious and/or moving moments that are unbelievably good the first time around waiting for you

>>86737115
Actually, Pete's one is pretty accurate

>>86737128
I loved the fact Weiner didn't sanitize anything from that time period. In any other show Roger would be an unrepentant piece of shit with no good characteristics and portrayed as a bad guy. The show touches on social issues but its not the point and it doesn't look back and judge them except in a sort of voyeur way.

>>86736689
story?

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Stop watching this show! There are no actors of colour in it!

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>>86736594
>hating the alpha male of the tv show

>>86737533
Dawn was one of my favorite side characters though.

It could've been better if not for the retarded neck waifu and that hippie thing Don got into.

>>86737533
Is it just me or is the lobby full of negroes?

>>86737140
Yes, that exact point was masterfully played and almost made me clap. God, you just described why I love this show so much, I've recently watched it for the 2nd time and reading threads like this, makes look forward for the 3rd one.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIDvYVjkkts

>>86737679
THE BIGGEST, BLACKEST PROSTITUTE YOU'VE EVER SEEN

>>86737679
Bert takes one look at Dawn at the front desk, turns 360 degrees and walks away

>>86737679
Tote that barge.

(Season 5 Spoilers)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpWlKCfSPcU

Scenes like this are what push the show so far ahead of everything else on tv. So much characterisation with next to no dialogue, no need for awkward exposition or speeches. Just great visuals, audio and acting (from what's normally a comic relief character). Not to mention perfect use of music and tying in the time period at the same time

>>86737517
The guy who played Sal told Weiner the kid sucked, then got fired. Something like that.

>>86737679
I didn't know I was in the presence of a bonafide racist!

>>86737580
I don't hate Glen. I hate the kid who plays him.

>>86738008
jesus christ weiner

>>86738058
because that's the showrunners kid

people that force their ugly kids into their shows are the fucking worst. and somehow you can always tell

>>86738008
christ, I hope that isn't true

>>86738098

fuck, it even happened in sopranos, luckily it was only like 3-4 scenes

Official season power ranking:
3>4>5>2>6>1>7

>>86737600
neck waifu?
And yes, I hated that end too at first, but giving it second thoughts, where else would Don could had ended?
It's obvious he had lost himself so much, and that he couldn't fit anywhere anymore, since every other friend had moved on, that maybe a place with other broken people as him was the best where he could find peace, at least by that moment.
I like to think that eventually he would find the answers to all the mess in his head and would continue his path, how? it's up to every viewer to imagine it, and I think that's what makes his ending so beautiful and bittersweet, everyone else had a closure, but Don's closure is up to us.

REMINDER TO THE GLEN HATERS THAT THERE WILL BE A GLEN SPIN-OFF IN THE 2020s FOCUSING ON GLEN LIVING IN THE HIGH FINANCE WORLD OF WALL STREET IN THE 80S WITH A FAKE IDENTITY THAT HE GOT TO DESERT VIETNAM. SALLY DRAPER APPEARS IN A RECURING ROLE AS HIS CONFIDANT AND LATER LOVER, MAKING GLEN THE ONLY MAN TO HAVE EVER FUCKED BOTH SALLY DRAPER AND BETTY DRAPER (he deserted Nam to fuck Betty before she died of cancer)

>>86738213
Nope

5>4>6>3>2>7>1

>>86737997
>Hallucination Don says "You are okay"

>Roger's final words to Don are the exact same phrase

Woah

>>86736770
>Sopranos
>le epic Mafia gangster shit

If you weren't a pleb you'd realize that part of Sopranos power is how it deconstructs and reinterprets and subverts "le epic Mafia shit."

>>86738008
I liked Sal. It sucks that he didn't come back at least once like Kinsey did.

>>86738213
3>4>5>2>7>1>6

>>86738391
It's also a callback to Don's first Lucky Strike pitch in Episode 1, and could basically serve as the defining quote for the whole show

>>86738259
Another reason to don't pull the trigger

>>86738226

I'm wondering how he got back into advertising to pitch the Coke ad. He shit the bed at two different top agencies. Maybe he did pitch it as a freelancer and got ripped off. I like ambiguity too.

>>86738008
That's not true, Wiener even considered bringing him back for a cameo

>>86738425
I heard they had considered bringing him back as a well known commercial actor, but I think the ambiguity of it makes it so much more tragic. Poor guy tried so hard to make a family and do what's right but he got fucked over. Even more tragic since they lose Lucky Strike anyway

>>86738507
He got a second chance at McCann, since they made the ad in real life. It's only slightly more bullshit than all of the other miracles he pulled out of his ass.

Maybe he sold himself as a changed man after a nervous breakdown? Which is basically the truth.

>>86738259
Glenn died in Vietnam.

gets worse each season. really falls off the cliff fast.

don't want to use buzzwords but it gets stupidly feminized, don turns into a fucking blabbering idiot, all masculinity that makes season 1 good is gone by the end

>>86738507
Jim Hobart was borderline obsessed with Don, he'd at least hear Don out before firing him and I guess Don used that last meeting to pitch the coke ad/save his job

>>86738753
you are somewhat retarded

>>86738226
I think a contributing thing to Don's peace was seeing that Leonard was probably more broken than Don was. Leonard didn't really have the same things that Don did, like charisma, good looks and people that cared about him despite his flaws. He saw that there's people worse off that he is, yet it still shows the fragility of the man behind Don Draper. I think the refrigerator speech that the Leonard guy had will be the basis for Don to use when he's coming up with the Coke advertisement.

>>86738753
Explain

>>86738657
>>86738782


That's definitely the most likely story since McCann had Coke as a client and he knew people there(including the CEO). But jesus, his reputation in the recent past was imploding during a pitch with Hershey and walking out of a Miller Beer meeting and disappearing.

>>86738838
great reply you've really opened my eyes anon

>>86736470
Absolute Mad Men

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>>86738753
Well, here's someone who really never understood the show, nothing we can do to help.

>>86738753
Nigga, the show's best episode which was in Season 5 (Signal 30) explored all the primary themes of the show including masculinity.

>>86738910
I'd agree that its implausible if he didn't come up with the most famous commercial of all time. The Coke ad was amazingly well received and defined a generation in a lot of ways.

>>86738903
what is there to explain? The writers completely change Don's character for no good reason whatsoever. They take his backbone away and I don't understand why people want to watch yet another confused insecure wallowing in self-pity caricature of a man. It's repulsive.

>>86738957

what does masculinity mean to you

>>86739004
>what is there to explain?
Apparently a lot since I have no idea what you are talking about

>>86737679

IF I WANTED TO SEE TWO NEGROS FIGHT ID THROW A DOLLAR OUT MY WINDOW

>>86739088
>become stronger as a person
>''they took his backbone away''

watch the show again in 5 years time, anon

>>86739138
To have the qualities that are commonly associated with men. Signal 30 was a great episode at exploring that because it was about Pete and his constant drive to have those qualities, but it's due to his pathetic nature, he constantly fails at that, losing the fight to Lane.

>>86739004

an og weeb

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>the you only like beginnings scene with Faye
sums up Don pretty well

>>86739004
Meant for
>>86739088

>>86739088
>Don's character
>Caricature

Did you watch the show at all? or you just kept staring at your cell phone while half-listening?
Don wasn't changing suddenly, everything that was happening for him, was solely explained by all of his background scenes, also, as well as his duties to the company kept changing, so his attitude. I specially loved the slow build they did in season 6 till the final episode with Hershey's, all the things happening with the company, his life, his marriage, his family, and flashbacks from his past, led to that moment.
Seriously kiddo, stop embarrassing your self.

>>86739257
>To have the qualities that are commonly associated with men

so nothing, then?

>great episode at exploring masculinity b/c guys fight

it was a dumb and shallow scene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm3yrjwaRLo

Its hard to say which scene is the best, but I think the season 6 finale is one of my favorites. It shows that despite all his faults Don is a good father who truly loves his children and the only woman he truly regretted lying to was Sally.

>>86739190
That is one of the most hilarious and memorable quotes of the series.
I lost all of my keks

>>86739415
well if you want to watch the downfall and mental emaciation of a man then I guess you'd like the show

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>>86739088

too dumb to not think living a dangerous lie wouldn't eventually wear a person down.

>webm related, the perfect show for you

>>86739441
I saw this scene first with Wojak staring at 4chan. I was pretty excited about finally seeing it in the context of the series.

>>86739510
Yeah, better go watch some pickle Rick and dragons getting killed, right?

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>>86739511
>>86739415
>>86739257
>>86739216
>>86738903
fuck, guys, I forgot I was on /tv/ and not on /fit/. My bad. It figures you're stuck in your romanticized minds or jacking off to self suffering pity and woman worship ideals

see ya

>>86739599
>/fit/
>masculine

Lmaoing at your life

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>>86739599
>/fit/

How quickly the manlet got broken, no wonder he's so obsessed with "muh masculinity"

>>86736470
yeah its a great show. I need to finish the final season.

>>86736594
Agreed, but tbf Schipka also became awkward when she hit her puberty.

I'd also add as a negative how Ginsberg just went crazy and didn't have any sort of payoff. Or perhaps I just didn't get it.

>>86740000

he was always fucked in the head.

im trying to find the clip of him yelling at Cutler with random nonsense hippie shit, but i dont think it's on yt

>>86740169
yes, I am sure it had nothing to do with the actor getting his own series

I watched like 5 eps in s1
when does it start getting good?
its just boring at this point
just some rich guys and their life in advertising with their "problems"
does anything exciting ever happen?

>>86740169
I don't mean that his crazyness came from nowhere, but how they built his character by how he is alienated and alone just to 'kill' him off.
>>86740266
I suppose this would explain it.

>>86740365
Yeah, although they did have the potential for him to go full bore schizophrenic from the start. His breakdown yelling at Cutler and telling Bob that he was getting broadcasts to harm people was a red flag.

>>86740343
If you expect to watch dragons breathing fire to a bunch of frozen undead people, nope, nothing exciting happens

>>86740692
not like that but more exciting than this
better call saul is more exciting than this

>>86740343
If you're that bored by it so far it's possible you won't enjoy the rest, but it does start to pick up once all the characters are well established and you're familiar with them as people.

>>86740343
>>86740838
Actually I take that back, it doesn't "pick up" it just becomes more enjoyable because of the familiarity. There really is no overarching plot, it's just watching these characters live their lives over the course of a decade. If that doesn't interest you then you probably shouldn't watch it.

>>86740343
Watch the whole season. If you don't find any enjoyment, drop it.

>>86740976
cac boi

>>86740976
then its just background noise
like friends without the humour but with a comfy and nice aesthetic

Was Mad Men a soap opera?

>>86741074
If you watch Mad Men as background noise you may as well not even bother

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>>86741074

i don't understand how one can't find comedy in madmen, but i guess i also don't see how people find it in the average abc/nbc/fox trash show

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>>86741276

nigga, you would got some more yous and done some trollin if you have just not fucked up and said s05e04 instead.

>>86736470
And the best part is it keeps getting better. 4-7 are distinct from 1-3 but they're all so, so damn good

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>literally loses a fucking eye
>couldnt give less shits

based Ken

>>86741653
Metal Gear Solid 6: L.A Noire

>complain about better call saul because "nothing ever happens"
>rate 10/10 a show where actually nothing ever happens
explain this to me /tv/

>>86738687
Sure. Just like Don

>>86741802
maybe because one of them is written well and has good characters, whereas the other is pseudo deep

i only saw the first season of better call saul, but if the rest is anything like breaking bad, i bet there's a lot of scenes where half the time is spent with the characters not speaking, just looking at eachother. probably a few scenes where characters sit or stand while looking in the distance, with the camera looking at the side of their face

>>86741802
Mad Men has characters that are strong enough that their interactions alone can carry the show. Better Call Saul does not.

>>86742025
while the mad men characters all talk the same bullshit all the time literally the same thing happens every episode

>>86742092
its literally just a bunch of businessmen doing businessmen talk in a cheesy/snobby way
oh yeah theres also cheating with the wives
wheres the fucking appeal

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>>86742253
Tell me some of your favorite books.

>>86742289
>books

>>86742343
Yeah, I thought as much.

>>86739088
post-election /tv/ is a fucking riot. im so fucking glad these T_donald losers werent around for /scdg/ They would of derailed the thread when the black secretary came in. Rewatch the show and come back.

>>86742447
thought what? that most people like me in this time dont even fuckin read books
woah...
from what I can gather this show is just /pol/ show
it shows life back when niggers where doing shitty jobs and the whites were rich controlling everything
even the house the blonde wife the kids shows this
and the "problems" in the show of the characters daily lives
its all pathetic and insignificant

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>>86742469

i love trump, and i love madmen and the wire

why do you think trump people can't have kino taste in tv?

>>86737265
fug
I feel like I will constantly find new things about this show and always talk about it till I die

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hgcNejkwTo

mad men truely is pure kino

it has some fanastic little scenes that set the tone and the era and then at times have some truely emotional scenes with great writing

>>86742609
if you had any reading skills I wrote"Post-election" and t_donald. Obviously you're new just like them.

>>86742723
so its just about the atmosphere then got it
nothing else
its for hipsters who had been born in the wrong time and poltards who dont like how the world is now

The show is dull, heavy handed and terrible at characterization. The plot is arbitrary and desultory. The moral fables and allegories people seem to be fascinated with here just seemed on the nose and awkward when I watched it. Dons character goes nowhere, no characters go anywhere. The attempted mimicry of the Sopranos (a far superior show) is cringe worthy when it happens, and it just reminds you of the power gap between the writers of the shows.

My least favourite parts of the show were Dons little philosophical spewings when he was in bed with some woman, and Peggy's scenes where she'd dole out some weird cryptic insult to a male that doesn't at all match her character in any other scenes, or match the cadence of conversation in real life -- in fact a lot of women in the show do it, and it's immensely jarring.

The only character who felt human to me was Lane. Everyone else was so gripped with obligatory and predictable "dude 60s were depressing lmao" character flaws that they had no room to breathe

>>86742587
God, how can you live being this dense?

>>86742827
no not really

mad men has some extremely well written, human characters who have far more going on underneath what they are doing or saying, it almost never enters the pitfall of characters just saying their emotion and the character of don draper is wonderfully human despite his initial "handsome man whos perfectly charismatic"

its supported by amazing acting from all around and some plotlines that are extremely memorable and the fan favorite "don goes to California" episodes.

yes mad men has amazing atmosphere and really show cases the transition from the 50's to the swinging 60's. but what people watch it for is the characters, their history, their struggles and their dreams. youre meant to get to know them and feel with and for them. mad men manages to turn the sniveling weasel of the show into one of the most enduring underdog that everyone likes.

mad men truly is a masterpiece of television

>>86738213
5>4>3>2>1>7>6

>>86736470
both are overrated
mad men is good but drags on for too long
two seasons less would have been plenty enough

>>86742873
How can you say the characters go nowhere when Pete exists?
He's a character that goes from one the audience fucking despises, to one that you suddenly start noticing is your favorite character

>>86743147
forgot to say some of the 60's tropes are way too in your face like the nature trashing scene

>>86742609
>If you like Trump you have to go to T_D
Trash

>>86743147
>Sopranos and Mad Men are overrated
What's a better show in your opinion, anon? What show is better than both of these and not 'overrated'?

>>86743362
lost
the leftovers
true detective s1

>>86743362
The Young Pope

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>>86738391
what the fuck
this show is too good.
>hey lieutenant, wanna get into some trouble?

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>>86743426
>lost
>the leftovers
>true detective s1
I hope you're kidding anon, all these shows are painfully mediocre

>>86743426
true detective shat the bed on pulling in their cosmic horror elements that they sowed the seeds for and in doing so botched the finale of 7 episodes of pure kino.

>>86743530
>TD s1 mediocre
plebeian taste

>>86743530
what?
are they not /pol/ enough for you?
youre all so hanged on the past liking shit shows like this
its just boring
nothing happens
the characters suck and no I cant relate to them
its 50 years later
their problems arent even problems

>>86743627
>are they not /pol/ enough for you?
Lost started good but got gradually worse, the leftovers is not very well writen and true detective s1 is decent but nothing very special. I don't see what /pol/ has to do with mad men.
>youre all so hanged on the past liking shit shows like this
>its just boring
>nothing happens
>the characters suck and no I cant relate to them
>its 50 years later
>their problems arent even problems
Why do you hit enter after every few words? That shit may be accepted on reddit but not here

>>86743426
>lost
Lost was trash and you know it. I'm actually sitting here angry that you would say that lost is better than Mad Men or the Sopranos. "OH LOOK ALL THIS MYSTERIOUS STUFF AND WE'LL DRAG IT OUT FOR SEASON AFTER SEASON AND WAIT WE DON'T HAVE TO EXPLAIN ANY OF IT BECAUSE THEY'RE DEAD AND NOTHING IN THE AFTERLIFE HAS TO MAKE SENSE" Biggest load of bullshit in my life.

>the leftovers
Haven't seen this

>true detective s1
I don't think it's fair to compare a single season story to stories that went for as many seasons as Mad Men and the Sopranos went. You might as well compare movies in there too. S1 was a fluke because the series as a whole sure as shit doesn't stack up.

>The Young Pope
Psuedo-kino trash. Hammy acting, awkward music, and certainly no stellar writing. Cinematography is pretty good, but it's not even in the same league.

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>dude muh soap opera for men lmao

>>86744379
I havent watched the sopranos and only 5 eps of mad men
my opinion is that I cant even sit 1 hour to watch it i split it in 2 parts an episode thats how boring it is

>>86744379
lost was GOAT
if you watch shows just for the ending or making sense just watch happy romance flicks teens watch or cartoons

>>86743627
imagine being this plebeian. wow.

>>86736470
Really, OP? I loved it during the first 3-4 seasons but the last several season it was missing something. Add in a bad finale and it doesn't hold up well.

>>86745343
mad men is overrated on /tv/

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>>86745237
>DUUUUDE NOTHING HAS TO MAKE SENSE LIKE THAT'S WHAT MY FAVORITE SHOW RICK AND MORTY DOES YOU KNOW ITS GOOD WRITING BECAUSE NOTHING MAKES SENSE AND THERE ARE TONS AND TONS OF LOOSE ENDS BUT LMAO JUST ROLL WITH IT HAHA WISH YOU WERE AS MATURE AS ME *BURPS*

>>86745456
No, it's really a top tier TV show all measures except pleb ones.
The context and themes in the show are deeply embedded in the time period it shows, and even relates to now. The world changed in the 60s. These things alone make it interesting, plus you get so much more.
If it was a novel, it would be on par with the great American classics that defined life in America during their time, but we don't know how the future will view TV shows yet.
By your reasoning, if you can't relate to the characters, you might be too young or immature. Maybe try again in a few years. I tried watching season 1 when it first aired but I was too young. I tried back around when season 5 was going on and was hooked.

>>86745237
>if you watch shows just for making sense
nigga what

Roger is top 3 best characters from a tv show all time.

>>86739441
Kino of the highest level.

>>86736470
we used to have live threads.

Can you imagine a live thread, moving at a comfy speed with no shitposting? It was heaven

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>>86737128
>sings in negro

>>86740000
Of course there are some disappointing character arcs that didn't get finished. Same with Bob. It's just natural due to the fact that actors get other jobs. I can't really blame the people who made the show for it.

>>86740768
Literally what are you talking about? Better Call Saul, which I love by the way, is a much slower burn than Mad Men.

>>86741074
>like friends without the humour
Half of the things Pete and Roger say and do are funnier than anything Friends ever produced.

>>86741028
I didnt start enjoying it until the end of season 2.

>>86741802
I love both shows, anon, and I'm sure that a lot of other anons do as well. /tv/ isn't just one guy you know.

>>86742587
Here, have this (you). You need it more than I do.

I watched like one season and a few episodes, didn't feel like continuing. Should I, /tv/?

same thing happened to me with house of cards - just lost interest after twoish seasons.

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>>86747652
>Bob gets axed because he went on to star in Zoo

Started watching Zoo after I marathoned Mad Men again. Jesus what a world of difference. The dialogue is atrocious

>>86736470
it's not Sopranos tier but close

>>86736470
IF YOU WEREN'T SO FUCKING NEW

dumb immigrants and faggots

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> comfy Sterling Cooper

>>86748085
hnng just looking at that makes me hear the typewriter and phone call sounds from the old SC office

>ywn experience "Shut the Door, Have a Seat" for the first time ever again

Its so hard bros

>>86748202
>ywn again see "Commissions and Fees" for the first time

Don't do it Lane! It's not the answer!! Don't do it!

>>86736470
It's not as good as Sopranos Tbh

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>>86737128
I completely lose my shit every damn time, that they smash cut to it as well just makes it all the better.

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What did it mean lads?

>>86748795
Money laundering

>>86742469
>implying /scdg/ threads weren't racist as fuck

>>86737128
>>86748667
Everyone's reactions was the best part
Bert doesn't give a shitl, Pete looks disgusted with the racism, Don doesn't care about the racism but is disgusted that Roger would embarrass himself in public like that

>>86742873
I think the female characters intentionally act silly and childish from time to time, it's actually one of the things I like best about Mad Men, a lot of the women (especially Peggy) act unreasonable and weird quite often.

I do agree that it's nowhere near as good as The Sopranos though, though I think they executed some elements from it really well such as dream sequences, if only from a visual and composition standpoint.

>>86743586
That's not even the good series of True Detective, it's incredibly mediocre and recycles shots over and over.

>>86745405
Yeah S5 is where it drops in quality to me and later seasons rely too much on dramatic irony. Still really good though. I'd take Mad Men at its worst over nearly all shows at their best.

>>86749282
No, them smash cutting to Roger's face in closeup from a relatively grounded and normal scene is definitely the funniest part, it's a completely unexpected and absurd scene change.

Post 10/10 moments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLLL9DKpUa4

>>86748667
Yeah the music starts playing while Peggy is smoking weed and then bam, My Old Kentucky Home. Mad Men when it got weird was probably what drew me into it initially. Like Betty shooting at the pigeons.

>>86743627
Dude the whole decade of the 60s is like a character in itself, man.

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>>86749538
First time I saw it I thought the scene in the office was going to continue, it's just so unexpected and the fact that it's an extreme close up as well just makes it all the more hilarious

>>86749538
>That moment when Betty asks Francis if he wants to rape his daughter's friend.

Even Francis was like what the fuck are you on Betty.

Quick question, lets say I try to get into watching this again, how many episodes should I skip? That first episode was really bad.

>>86749315
>a lot of the women (especially Peggy) act unreasonable and weird quite often.

PIZZA HOUSE!

>>86749633
Stop until you are old enough to appreciate an adult drama series.

Does it get better after S1. I watched most of S1 and it just didn't click with me

>>86749825
Yes.

>>86749633
>That first episode was really bad.
u wot???

>>86749810
Okay, but what about Mad Men? What episodes should I skip.

>>86749979
It was.
>hey buy our cigarettes lol
>sorry we can't find a Jewish employee
>but you're a woman so what do you know
>Oh we had a Jewish employee after all lol
>some 5/10 realizes she's pregnant

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Kiernan shipka is so fucking hot and I will never see her