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This episode gave me hope that Rick and Morty is not completely

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This episode gave me hope that Rick and Morty is not completely dead yet.. It felt like something true to this series' core, probably because it was written by a guy who sticks with the stuff since season 1.

I hope that Roiland doesn't abandon his child completely and lets good people write his show, not some trash tier whores.
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>>86725641
I honsetly dont see what people who hate this season are complaining about
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hey reddit
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>>86725680
dude, lets make an episode about therapy in a cartoon when you can travel through dimensions and do what you want lmao
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>>86725641
>look guys my cartoon is still cool
kys
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>>86725641
I don't know if Roiland is an alright guy or not, alright at least in terms of not being batshit insane I mean, and it's absolutely Roiland's baby in every conceivable way... But Dan Harmon is main billing co-credited and he is a cancer that ruins everything he touches and he is actually insane.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKvsLLfRpLs
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I agree op girls are so dumb and stupid!
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>>86725719
Yes? The show was always about juxtapositions of the mundane and fantastical. I just dont get the hate at all.
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>>86725719
but the teacher eats poop LMAO!
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>>86725750
A lot of Rick's dialogue sounds exactly like how Dan Harmon talks in real life so I'm not sure all the people trying to give Roiland full credit because they don't like Dan is really accurate
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>>86725719
the therapy scenes in that episode were far better than anything rick was doing
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>>86725641
>hope that Rick and Morty is not completely dead yet

but OP, it was born fucking dead!
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This was the worst episode so far. There was nothing funny about it, and it just keeps beating the fact that Jerry's a fucking loser. We fucking get it. His character is so 1-dimensional and so obviously being used as a scapegoat for everything bad in the family's relationship that I was honestly glad we hadn't seen him for several episodes, because I knew Harmond and Roiland weren't going to do anything new with Jerry's character development and just keep pushing him down. And what do you know, I was right.

At the end of the episode I actually checked the video progress bar to make sure it was a full episode, because it felt like 10 minutes of content stretched into 20. I have no idea why anyone who though the last ones were bad thought this one was good, except that "it was made by a man so it must be good".
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the writers just need a real meeseeks box.
tell them to improve the show and it will be good again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE14KwEfR6Q
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>>86725680
>literal infinite possibilities
>choose to waste an entire episode on a single unfunny gag with the other half of the season being about how Dan Harmon is really upset about his divorce
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>>86725962
>this shit was better then the other shit
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>>86726276
barely anyone on /tv/ has legit opinions on the season, they just force themselves to have them based on who wrote it
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>>86725680
They hate women. That's literally it.

Jerry gets shit on in an episode written by a woman? It's shit. What a fucking bitch! A male writer does it? The series is saved.
Rick gets told off by a woman in no uncertain terms as to why he's a shitty person? It's shit. Jerry does it in an episode written by a man? The series is saved.
Morty takes a back seat to Summer for one episode? The show is called Rick and Morty, not Rick and Summer! But we get a Rick and Jerry episode? Hallelujah, the series is saved.

This board is has been overrun by virgins who just want to bitch about women. They know they can't do it on /r/rickandmorty because they'd get downvoted, so they do it here.
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>>86725680
I'll give you some complaints:
>Lack of comedy compared to s1 and 2, both in quality and quantity
>Flanderized, unrecognizable characters
>Self insertion characters being smarter than Rick
>Half of an entire episode spent on a pun
>Mary Sue Summer
>Bitch Beth
>Whiny Morty
>Jerry torture porn (female writer angst)

Latest ep was ok, but still lacking in comedy, which is a bit of an issue in this COMEDY SHOW
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>>86727418
I can't go to Reddit, because I am not a borderline retard who likes to participate in mental deficient circlejerking. But it seems that you would fit in just right.
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>>86725641

>It was written by a man so it's better despite having all the hallmarks of what makes this season suck

It's smack dab in the middle, Vindicators had a more classic Rick and Morty feel and wasn't bogged down by divorce bullshit.
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>>86725719
the show has always had light ordinary family drama though
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>>86727418
My favorite thing about the last episode was Rick calling Jerry out on weaponizing his victim complex to manipulate people.

It's exactly what every /r9k/ woman-hating incel does. The constant whining about niggers, no gf, family hates me, etc. It's the same performance of "waah, pity me, I am the victim in every confrontation imaginable"

It's not hard to see why self-hating virgins are mad at this show. It satirizes their bullshit impeccably.
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>>86727216
First I watch the episode then I check who wrote it. I will always make an assumption based on my experience and I am generally right, for example I feel like the next episode is going to be written by a woman, based on this preview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-4sXhxAP0U

You know why? Because everytime I feel like something is lacking or outright weird, it's always a work of an amateur. And those women they hired for season 3 are all amateurs.
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>>86727495
All of this totally makes sense for the Evil Morty theory. They are simply not the same characters. If that's not the case, and all of this shit doesn't go anywhere, then I can agree with you.
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im not one for reading too much into the quality of a comedy show week for week
but what i will say, the extremely graphic cartoon violence definitely went up and its the same dumb trend as in family guy/american dad.
bad writers just think thats enough for a joke
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It had better gags but the divorce and muh family feelings stuff is like a bad smell
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>>86727701
>My favorite thing about the last episode was Rick calling Jerry out on weaponizing his victim complex to manipulate people.

Which would be nice if it weren't for the fact every time Jerry ever tried to take a stand for himself, his family responded by either browbeating him into submission or, in the case of the season premiere, abandoning him. It's also hilarious coming from a character who's only tolerated by his daughter because of a severe level of emotional manipulation on his part. Jerry gets zero barbs in because nobody's allowed to call out Rick except for self-inserts or Morty, and the line is effectively telling the audience that if they sympathize with Jerry, then you're falling for some kind of trap and Rick's right. It's as if they predicted the reaction to Beth being a terrible parent and preemptively wrote an episode that made Jerry look worse in comparison and making rooting for him a crime.

It's bothersome that this series is trying to become character driven when all the characters are awful people and nobody changes.
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https://clyp.it/z4hsltmr
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>>86727802
That's fair enough. But one thing that is stupid is how much we are supposed to care about this divorce- why is so much time spent referencing it? It is literally meaningless. Morty left his real family in another dimension that is basically hell, so why should a fucking divorce get to him this much?
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I, love, Morty and I hope Morty loves me.
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>>86727932
What is this?
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>Realize this:
The spark of the series is dying off. There is no going back.
They'll just keep making these reddit tier episodes just for the retarded fans.
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>>86727941
I wonder how those dimensions with Jerry and Beth together work
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Justin has already moved onto Solar Opposites.
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>>86727781
if the arguments were that the episodes feel off because they're written by new people getting the hang of the show, I'd say it was a good argument. But it's always just bitching about women. I have to agree with >>86727418 in that a lot of it is just women boogyeman. At least on /tv/

>>86727495
>Mary Sue Summer
>Flanderized, unrecognizable characters
>Self insertion characters being smarter than Rick
problems that dont exist (a psychiatrist understanding Rick isnt surprising because he isnt complex)

>Bitch Beth
>Whiny Morty
>Jerry torture porn problems that always existed
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>>86727941
Because it's the main reason everything is falling apart and characters go crazy, gradually driving Morty to the dark side. And this is not C-137 Morty, so he never left his family.
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>>86727941
We spent all of season 1 caring about their relationship. This isnt new for the show at all. The show is practically about Beth and Jerry all along
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>>86725680
it's just not funny, nigga
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>>86725641
I agree OP
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>>86728310
>And this is not C-137 Morty, so he never left his family.
Headcanon
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>>86728346
>We spent all of season 1 caring about their relationship.
I didn't. I fucking hated their boring sidestories, worst part of the show.
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>>86725750
Ugh I can't stand harmontown anymore. Honestly watch it for Jeff now
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>>86727905
I agree with you to an extent. Up until recently Rick has always been depicted as infallible, and Jerry has largely been used as a punching bag by the family. I think each character is purposely depicted with their own exaggerated character flaws (Rick's being his contempt for morality) with Morty serving as the voice of reason.

With that said, the characters are changing. Rick apologized to Beth and admitted that he shouldn't lie to her. Jerry admitted that getting his family back shouldn't be done by trying to gain their pity. Beth is realizing that being a good mother requires sacrifice on her part.

The show has always been extremely self-aware, and I think a lot of what is happening this season reflects that.

Personally, I think the best parts of the show are the meta self-analysis parts, not the wacky adventure parts. That's just me, though
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>>86728496
It's just a theory that makes this piece of crap somehow bearable and even slightly interesting. I don't say it's true, but I would be disappointed if it's not.
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>>86725750
>kill people for not saying something you want to hear
that sounds pretty facist
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where do i watch this shit uncensored?
I found a torrent for the first season that was uncensored, but nothing for the other ones.
I refuse to listen to beep boops because criminally retarded americans believe that some words can be bad.
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>>86725641
1 and 5 were the best, the second episode was okay, 3 and 4 were shit.

obviously, the quality has dipped but the rest of the season still should have some good episodes
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>>86725641
Completely agree anon. I went from liking it to watching it when I'm tired or bored, and the last ep had me, surprisingly, quite entertained.
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>>86727932
https://youtu.be/bZCSFqcCy6M?t=14m6s
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>>86725641
Reminder season 3 is an alternate demension showcasing Evil Morty's rise to power
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>>86725641
>e1
I liked. Meme's aside the szechuan sauce was legitimately funny.

>e2
>Mad Max
>Rick and Summer
Awful episode and worst this season by far.

>e3
Extremely dumb, but still managed to be funny imo.

>e4
Felt like a good goofy episode from a previous season.

>e5
Not great, but not bad. The edginess of the kid shooting the kid was painful.
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>>86728800
How does this make sense if season 3 follows season 2 with escaping the prison, which was after establishing Evil Morty
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>>86728845
I agree apart from 3, which was shitty because half of it was set in that Mary Sue psychiatrist's
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>>86728854
Infinite timelines, infinite possibilities
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>>86725641
The best part were the little people inside the machine imo
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>>86728907
They are all in the same point of time, there is no time travelling in Rick and Morty.
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>>86728956
This
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>>86726276
>watching a cartoon
>wanting depth and character dimension
Pick one nigga
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>>86728845
>edginess of the kid shooting the other one was painful

completely agreed. i normally like dark humor but that was
A) predictable
and
B) not funny or neccesary at all

like what purpose did that serve? just to shock you?
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>>86729017
So just like in ep1 where the frozen kid shatters
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>>86727495
>expecting a show to keep being amazing every episode for years
>being this assmad over a cartoon
Full. Retard.
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>>86728900
You're right. I forgot about the B plot in that one.

>>86729062
That fit better in context of the episode and developing the feel of the show. So no, not really.
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>>86727701
But the evil nazi incels liked the last episode where Rick criticized Jerry
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>>86728622
The Pickle Rick parts of Pickle Rick were infinitely more interesting and engaging than the Family Therapy parts. If the episode was just Pickle Rick fucking around then it would have been a hundred times better.
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>>86725719

the therapy is juxtaposed with a sentient pickle disembowling rats, what is your point?
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>>86729068
>having no standards
>getting mad at criticism
pleb
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>>86728845
>>86729017
>complaining about the kid shooting the other kid
back to /co/mblr, that was a well-needed joke after all of the "deserved" deaths in the previous episodes in this season. Hopefully there will be more of that so people like you stop watching.
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>>86729017
>like what purpose did that serve? just to shock you?
Why do you type like a woman? haha just wondering
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>>86727781

dan harmon is so fucking disgusting to look at. imagine working with that mess of a man
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>>86729243
You may be right; but that's probably just because most of them are too dumb to understand when they're being made fun of. If a female character had delivered those exact same lines to Jerry, they would most likely be triggered.
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>>86729816
No way to know for sure, unless it was that dumb therapist character that hopefully never shows up again.
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>>86728532
I agree. It's much worse than anything this season and that's why I cant take complaints about this one seriously
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>>86727418
>ignores criticism because it also includes criticism of wymyn
Are you lost? Here a map:
Reddit ------>
<------ Twitter
Tumblr vvvvvv
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>>86729344
I disagree. DUDE GORE LMAO isnt as interesting as exploring character motivvations
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Ive seen Mary Sue brought up 3 times this thread and as usual it's a meaninlgess term that nobody understands.
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>>86729816
>i need to invent hypothetical situations to make an argument
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>>86727495
So...a typical Dan Harmon show going into its 2nd or 3rd season?
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>>86730400
Was used twice and you're full of shit because they were self-insert stronk wymyn. The psych was so fucking flagrant too.
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>>86727781
Girl on the left looks like a background alien character.
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>>86727418
ayyy lmao
I didnt even knew that this episode was written by a guy, just that I liked it more than the rest.
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>>86730418
Not really, because when the female therapist called Rick out on using his seemingly infallible intelligence to dodge the responsibilities of being a good father/grandfather (which is completely true btw), the internet incel brigade was outraged by "m-muh self insert" - which avoids the fact that everything she said was right on the money. They just couldn't handle their edgy atheist science god being cast in a negative light by a woman.

So, no, I don't have to invent arguments. Fuck off
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PICKLERICKERS IN THE HOUSE TONIGHT!
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>>86730418
Not him but I agree. Do you see how many people unironically post the Morty rant in Interdimensional Cable 2 when its just a joke making fun of people who say things like that because they dont have a girlfriend?

>>86730558
No they werent. You people want Rick to be the only smart person in the universe
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>>86728299
>if the arguments were that the episodes feel off because they're written by new people getting the hang of the show, I'd say it was a good argument. But it's always just bitching about women.
You know, it could be both. Women generally have problems functioning at the highest levels, which is where R&M S1 kind of sits for animated comedy.
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tbwf it isn't that much worse than season one.
And season one was already mediocre. It's just that it was new. Now after a year It's really not that good because people got used it it
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>>86728854
Infinite timelines meaning there is more than one Citadel of Rick, some of which are and aren't destroyed.

There isn't a chance for evil Morty to replace C-137 Morty which means he isn't evil morty unless he turns evil than goes back in time, which is dumb.

Season 3 sucks.
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>>86730815
Rick and Morty is a smart show, but definitely not the highest levels of comedy. I think it's just that women writers triggered /tv/ enough for the wool to be taken off their eyes to make them realise the show in general isnt that great, and they blame womyn
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>>86730755
>Morty rant in Interdimensional Cable 2 when its just a joke making fun of people who say things like that because they dont have a girlfriend?
ah, another autist who doesn't understand that the insult at the end is just to cover their asses. Harmon himself has ranted like that irl a hundred times, in the same ass-covery style.

>No they werent.
The psych is drawn to look like the actual writer of the episode. You can go back now if you have nothing to contribute.
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>>86725641
Season 3 episode ranking: 5>1>4>>3>>>2
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>>86730887
No, Citadel of Ricks includes Ricks from different dimensions, like how is this not known to you? Where do those all Ricks come from?

Also they kinda fixed this infinite shit with saying that there is a spectrum of Ricks that count as functional Ricks and everything else doesn't matter, so it's not about infinite timelines.
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>>86730999
R&M in a nutshell
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>>86730968
1, 4, 5, 3, 2

1 isn't even in the same class as the others
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>>86730968
Eh, I'd put 1 over 5. Maybe even Vindicators (4) also. 1 was a really, really good episode.
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>>86730960
>ah, another autist who doesn't understand that the insult at the end is just to cover their asses.
>i need to invent hypothetical situations to make an argument
That's cool

>The psych is drawn to look like the actual writer of the episode
Right, you just read what a Mary Sue means on tv tropes and applied it to everything because that makes you good at analysis. Good job buddy. What the Psych looks like is irrelevant, because she isnt to be treated like a full character, but a vehicle to bring forth the points being made about their characters. Psych scenes in pretty much everything only serve the purpose of allowing the means for the audience to learn about the characters.
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>DUDE I HATE WOMEN LMAO
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>>86728299
>the writer of the shitty pickle rick episode says in some interview that the therapists is her character
>problems that dont exist
kys reddit retard.
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>>86731258
>someone is smarter than Rick because they understand one aspect of his personality after spending a day with his family
go back to analyzing spongebob episodes
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>>86731152
>being this much of an sjw you can't even reason anymore
wew that sucks
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>>86731336
>reading comprehension
kys retard.
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>>86725641
>by far the second best episode of the season after s01e01

Really makes ya think
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>>86731411
it would have been better you just didnt reply to that rather than reveal you gave up
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>>86731205
DUDE WOMEN ARE INCOMPETENT WHORES BUT THEY HAVE VAGINAS SO ITS ALL GOOD LMAO

I can't stand you cucks, you are so fucking low as people.
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>>86731500
this is a good tactic because you can just say the person got something wrong without saying what it is so you can pretend to have a point
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>>86731579
I'm still waiting for you to make an argument
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>>86731582
t. why am I single
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>>86731624
>brings up unrelated garbage against my argument
>expects to receive a serious answers
kys faggot. if you want to ignore the fact that the retarded writer of the pickle rick episode decided to make the therapist her self insert character and then confirmed it in some interview then good for you retard.
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>>86730342
Neither of those are jokes, and who the fuck cares about character development in a cartoon that isn't classic Simpsons? They are the only guys who ever got it right, every other cartoon is better without crappy character motivations episodes

I vote for jokes
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The problem with a lot of this seasons episodes is that they feel like long-running Family Guy jokes.

It's like the writers are peter saying "Remember that time when..." and the entire episode is the flashback joke
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Everyone is quick to jump on the therapist as a self-insert (which is irrelevant anyways, since ALL writing contains the author's self insertion to a certain degree - intentional or not) but the same people are unable to admit that everything that character said was 100% true and valid.

Also this >>86731152

Have you plebs even SEEN the Sopranos?
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>>86731800
Honestly that's the reason Family Guy has staying power. It has remained a mediocre shit river of jokes and we hope will continue to do so.
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>>86731839
>was 100% true and valid.
and blatantly self obvious since season 1 episode 1. I don't need the cartoon to explain its premise.
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>>86731861
Family Guy has staying power because people are fucking dumb. It has tons of crappy character development episodes
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>>86731695
>when someone uses this """"""""""argument"""""""" and anon is only a misogynist because of success with women
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>>86731905
It wasn't an explanation of the premise at all. It was a much-needed counterpoint to Rick's God complex and to everyone who bought into the myth that he's perfect in every way.
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>>86731716
why do you do this when we are both able to scroll up and see the original thing you replied to?
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>>86731921
you call them incompetent whores with vaginas. It's obviously because of your success with women

>>86731661
You're gonna say that for any argument I could make until you find one you can refute, this isnt hard to figure out anon
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>>86732052
>he forgets to circle the 3 words before that
>claims that self insertion characters are not a problem
are you fucking mentally retarded?
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>>86731993
Only brainlets bought into the infallable Rick shit, especially since season 1 has where he fails to cure the Morty love potion and pretty much destroys an entire Earth only to steal another universe where the Rick that did cure the love potion dies.

>couldn't unfuck simple love morty disease
>infallible god
pick one
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>>86732272
50% of the part of the comment you are replying to is unrelated to what you're replying to? You're ignoring half the statement so you can call your part right. It's lazy. Actual reading comprehension would make you know that the thing I was saying wasnt a problem was the claim that she's smarter than Rick. Several other people in this thread already said why it makes no difference how she looks.
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>>86725641
Agreed. It actually felt like "Rick'n'Morty" again. Not "Beth'n'Summer smash the patriarchy".
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>>86729017
>like what purpose did that serve? just to shock you?

It's so that redditors can say,
>"holy shit that was DARK haha season 3 is the BEST"
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>>86732365
No shit. And yet there are people like

>>86727495
>self insertion characters being smarter than Rick

who can't handle the fact that Rick got called out on his bullshit by a woman. So, I agree, it's a brainlet critique, but it's so often spouted in this threads that it's worth recognizing that almost every criticism of that scene is based on the butthurt that a woman said something right.. and that is absolutely the reason, becausr Morty does it all the time and nobody gets triggered
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>>86732588
>"Beth'n'Summer smash the patriarchy"
no episode has felt like this
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>>86732490
i see so you re actually retarded. good to know, here is your last (you).
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>>86732945
>here is your last (you)
Good. You have made at least 4 replies without actually arguing anything but thinking you have a point. Other people in the thread will be able to read the points at least

>inb4 n-not him but I agree you're retarded!
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>>86732759
>when his IQ starts with 8
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The therapists job is to confront them about their problems
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>>86733133
not an argument
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>>86726276
This episode had actual jokes. Compared to last episode where the literal only jokes were 9/11 and eating poop... Women writers I'll tell you what
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>>86733330
Is-rael
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>>86725680
The female writers exiled Jerry because he committed the crime of not being a Chad Thundercock.

The sole episode so far written by a man features Jerry. Really jogs the noggin.
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>Giantess fetishists got trolled hard
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>>86733510
The sole episode written by a man had a teenager mutated into a monster because he didn't want to be with his neurotic cheating girlfriend
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>>86733330
>Women writers I'll tell you what
I don't get this line of criticism. The female writer wrote the overarching story, but dialogue and jokes are filled in by the whole team. They literally write their scrips madlibs style where they leave dialogue blanks for jokes and quips that they fill in later as a team. /tv/ blames one female writer for episodes they don't like, when in reality everyone involved with the writing team had input into the script and said "yes, this is what we want".
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>>86733510
Why don't you just admit that you identify with Jerry's "pathetic loser" schtick and because of that, you feel personally attacked whenever he suffers an injustice? Try a little honesty and introspection for once.
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>>86727781
Girl on the right is a cutie.
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>>86733745
Xavier is 2deep4u shit and that is pothead-tier philosophy.
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>>86733745
Problem being that Rick's ideas are meant to be bad considering that he's basically an alcoholic, semi-suicidal nihlistic cunt.

While Xavier's are meant to be taken with a grain of salt since the whole joke is that he's a new-age hippie stereotype.
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>>86733745
>that second to last xavier quote
dude actions have absolutely no consequences lmao

all of xavier's quotes are completely terrible actually. idealism has always shown to be dangerous as well as vanity. if you want to destroy a society you would listen to xavier

*tips fedora*
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Rick and Morty: coherent points of view
Xavier: gay poetry for snowflakes
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