Why are modern horror films so shitty? I don't think there

The VVitch

>It Follows
>It Comes at Night
Hopefully Mother! will also be good

>>86665819
Conjuring movies were pretty good.

>>86665975
It Follows was garbage.

it's also mother!, the m isn't capitalized.

>>86665819
>watch trailer for IT
>jumpscares
>le creepy RINGU fast movement
fuck movies

>>86665882

This. Still need to watch It comes at night.

>>86665882
This, and maybe a field in england. Other than that the genre has been dead for 30 years.

>>86665819
Babadook. It Follows. VVitch. There's a movie from the last few years inspired by The Thing. I haven't seen it and I forgot it's name. Haven't seen The Void either. :(

>>86666250
>There's a movie from the last few years inspired by The Thing

Hateful Eight?

Annabelle: Creation wasn't too bad. It was leagues better than the first.

>>86665819
Conjuring and Conjuring 2 were both a pretty good time

>>86665975
>Hopefully Mother! will also be good
>jlaw
yeah, no

>>86665882
>6.8 on IMDb

Allowing niggers to vote was a mistake

>>86666006
>>86666297
>>86666315
Lying, shilling or shit taste, I can't tell.

>>86666315
>>86666006

Which youtuber injected this stupid opinion into your empty brains?

The Autopsy of Jane Doe is one of the best in recent years.

Lake Mungo
It Follows
The Innkeepers

Sinister 1&2, Dark Skies, As Above So Below, Evil Dead, Don't Breathe

>>86666373
Then what was a good horror movie, extremely bitter anon?

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>>86665819
I supposed you haven't watched the bye bye man yet?

>>86666297
The jumpscares got a bit annoying, but it was good

I did audibly laugh when the little ghost girl turned around with a demonic face and said 'Your Soul!' though

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>>86665819

I dont know either they are scared not to make it too spoopy or people wouldnt go to cinema to watch it, or they are afraid not to offend anyone.

Its hard to make movies in 2017 Anon, especially horror ones.

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>>86666373
>>86666380

>>86666440
Say it, don't spray it.

>>86666417
Evil Dead 2013 was good. I think Don't Breathe made a mistake making the antagonist be a rapist same with Krueger in Elysium, if your villain is too sympathetic better make them rape someone.
I thought Sinister had some unique deaths like the alligator scene in 2 or the kid getting bounced off the hood of the truck,

>>86666006
>>86665819
The guitar sing-a-long scene was the cringiest piece of shit I've seen in recent memory in any genre. This movie was a pile of hot garbage.

>>86666417
>As Above So Below

Oh my god fuck no

>Evil Dead

Shitty remake for cucks

>Don't Breathe

Shitty movie for cucks

Hush was good

>>86666557
Yes I'm really looking for respect on an anonymous image board you fucking retard.

>>86666417
kek, these are all perro caca

>>86666562
>not liking the Evil Dead remake
Trash opinion discarded.

>>86666655
test post

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Check Oculus

>>86666655
It's literally a remake for cuckolds. Ash or fuck off.

>>86666667
>>86666666

>>86665819
They're made by horror fans and not real directors.

>>86665819
The Babadook was great at building tension and exemplified the creeping aspect of horror. I would give it a legit 9-10/10 if the characters were not so horrendously unlikable

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This can't even rightly be called a horror movie (although it has one or two genuinely unnerving scenes) but it's got some really great cinematography. I didn't expect much but came out pleasantly surprised.

>>86666758
even real directors can fail to direct good horror

>>86666719
>g-give me Bruce Campbell and Shitty effects
Wow really makes for a good horror film.

>>86665819
>decent horror movie released in the last 5 years.
The Void (2016) is pretty decent

>>86666006

bad, generic as fuck

>>86666411
>Lake Mungo
the only reason this got me is because the concept is so creepy.

>>86666846
so boring and slow for a weak payoff

>>86666411
It Follows had a good concept but the movie wasnt that great

>>86665819
a dark song was dece

The Borderlands was pretty good.

>>86666719
Cucks dislike The Evil Dead and Evil Dead. Cucks LOVE Evil Dead II, Army of Darkness, and Ash vs Evil Dead. I like all the flicks and the first season of Ash vs Evil Dead.

The Void was a good copy mashup of Assault on Precinct 13, The Thing, From Beyond, Fulci's The Beyond and Hellraiser. Not great mind you but I don't I've enjoyed a horror film made in the past 20 something years maybe.

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>>86665819
>Why are modern horror films so shitty?

How the fuck did you miss this?

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>>86666995
>a dark song

>>86666924
Like I said, it's not a horror movie, more of an art-house take on horror. I enjoyed the character interactions and the cinematography. Also the scene where there seems to be an invisible man smoking in the chair was spookier than any jumpscare garbage posted in most of these threads.

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The Conjuring 1 & 2 are good though. 2 has like 3 jump scares in total. The most iconic and scary scene in 2 was in fact not a jumpscare at all. It was all the filming and music.

I know it has brown people and inter racial dating but get out was a way better horror flick than 90% of the trash mentioned in this thread so far.

>>86665819
the void was great.
Heard Don't fuck in the Woods is good have to check it out
Gravy was great had the most likable killers ever.
I have watched a shitton have to think but those two popped into my head first.

The Conjuring ain't going down as iconic kid, horrors fucking dead, what we have now is cheap greasy shit by hacks lacking all imagination. Horror used to be art, I swear.

>>86667081
yeah but it's modern and popular and mainstream so we have to hate it

>>86667132
nigger kys

>>86667081
Fucking this. That one scene is better than any horror shit to come out. In fact its better than the entirety of The VVitch

Will IT save horror?

>>86667224
probably not

>>86667173
Back to your conjuring shitfest. The conjuring flicks are MIND BLOWINGLY BAD. I need people who like them to admit they have no taste and or no experience with horror movies.

>>86667132
it was ok but the ass kissing sjw hype this shit has is stupid. Fun but by no means god tier horror film

>>86667152
horror can just be a good time

>>86667284
I don't like The Conjuring nigger, I like The VVitch. Literally the only good and original horror movie since The Blair Witch Project.

>>86666440
well meme'd my brend

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OP, you here? You've clearly never seen this.

>>86667364
fair enough then, the witch was a lot better than get out.

>>86667436
this was good

but it was more action-y than anything

>>86665819
Reality is the new horror.

Look at mexico
>drug infested den with cartels
>pumps out cheap drama where the worst that can happen is fake love and rejection

>japan is one of the safest countries on earth
>consistently shits up the craziest horror imaginable

>>86667385
>field in england was a horror? seemed more like some psychedelic shit
I'd call it psychedelic horror, pretty unique and worth watching.

>>86667081
Low stakes, formulaic trash.

>>86667436
If you faggots read manga, you notice that Korean movies are just like somebody thought up a story for a manga and decided to make a movie with it instead.

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Any of you watched pic related? It's predictable but well done.

>>86665882
Best horror movie of the 2010s probably

>>86666411
>The Autopsy of Jane Doe
Second half goes to shit
>Lake Mungo
THAT FUCKING SCENE: The movie. I really like it though
>It Follows
It's ok I guess.

>>86666417
I loved Evil Dead but hated the rest

>>86666903
I really liked the Void

Also, all the shilling in this thread is unbelievable.

>>86667016
The void was decent. I loved the practical effects, and there was a lot of tension for at least the first third or so, but it was really let down by a mediocre climax and ending (and most of the acting was just awful).

I really wanted it to be good, and I really wanted to like it, but I just thought it was ultimately a bit disappointing. When are we going to get a decent cosmic horror movie?

I like The VVitch and the Conjuring movies.

>>86667436
Chink horror peaked with bio zombie about 20 years ago.

>>86666417
>As Above So Below
jfc this was a torrent of shit floating on more shit, I watched it for free and still wanted my money back

>>86667656
Event Horizon remake?

I liked Sinister

>>86667016
God I wanted to like this movie so badly. It pulls from two great sources (silent hill, the thing) so heavily, but doesn't give itself time to develop the nuance of either. It replaces subtlety with obfuscation and moves at such a wierdly breackneck pace.

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>>86666417
>As Above So Below
>When she punches the demon in the face

>>86666924
t.pleb

>>86665819
I liked the Devil's Candy, unless you're a parent it's not really scary

>>86667747
There's a remake? In fairness, I guess I thought Event Horizon was pretty good, and I also enjoyed The Mist (which is sort of like cosmic horror-lite)

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>>86665819
This is technically horror

>>86665819
I think it's because we're all pretty desensitized to classic horror. Fifty years ago, blood and gore and guts is enough to scare and unsettle the population, now it simply isn't. Ghosts and the like are just not scary or overdone in this day and age.

Insidious is better than The Conjuring

Also are the paranormal activity movies worth watching?

>>86667016
I get that acting isn't really the strong point of a horror movie, but it was so laughably bad in The Void that I couldn't focus on anything else. And for a movie that was advertised as having great practical effects they were pretty mediocre.

>>86667894
no, no remake was saying a remake of it will prolly be the only time we get some decent cosmic stuff hollywood has no originality anymore.

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>>86665972
>>86667081
>>86667198
I fucking knew what was gonna happen with the painting, but it still got me.

>>86666372
black people love that movie though
that and The Babadook

>>86667950
Only the first one is worth watching.

>>86667950
First one is actually kinda interesting in that it was what rekindled the found footage fad. Second one was okay. Don't bother with the rest.

>>86666372
truth. sucks that the score is so artificially inflated

>>86666440
This was the only movie I fell asleep watching since Suspect Zero.

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>>86665819
This is more suspense/thriller than horror but I thought it totally riveting for me, its pace and buildup is on-point and the main actor is believable enough.

>>86667950
I didnt care much for Insidious, found it pretty meh. First Paranormal Activity was good, second was okay, the rest are only good if you want to watch a bad horror movie for fun.

>>86668047
The sad part is that nothing will ever top the Blair Witch Project in that category, people forgot how to actually put effort into building an urban legend or make the films seem like they could have been legit

>>86665975
I like both of those films but only picking pretentious horror is a good way to get (you)'d

>>86667644

black coats daughter was great, simple predictable but so well done atmosphere wise it actually spooked me on that alone.

didn't like it follows much, it had some cool parts but movies were better when they hid their "meanings", the STD thing was too in your face and actually wrecks the plot, after they find the guy who first gave it to her why dont they force him to help them they just kind of let him go? it has a lot of weird moments like that where it doesn't make sense plot wise but it makes sense theme wise and i dont like that. be more subtle movies.

best horror movie was the vvitch in recent years i'd say, babadook i also really liked but i thought the vvitch was better.

the 4 i mentioned were the best ive seen, i havent seen autopsy yet but i mean to and any of the conjuring movies and spin offs havent done it for me. the first one was good, not great, but thats more than most movies these days.

>>86666250
I think you mean Life, right?

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>>86665819
horror movie fans are the biggest nostalgia fags ever

literally part of being a legitimate horror movie fan is knowing a bunch of 30 year old movies

>>86667930
Nope, the problem is the vast majority of current horror flicks are generic over produced but poorly made trash. Seems the test audiences are 14yo's who'll watch any garbage as an excuse to give each other handjobs.

>>86668185
This.

I was a kid when i first watched it. The beginning actually made me believe I was watching an actual documentary.

>>86666250
>>86668240
Life is literally Alien, don't bother

>>86668244

>>movie fans are the biggest nostaliga fags ever

>>part of being a legitimate movie fan is knowing a bunch of 30 year old movies

>>86668218
>black coats daughter was great

lmaoo waifuist please, it's trash

>>86668284

the only way to do it now would be to make one and put it up online with no explination, creepy pasta type stuff is probably the closest to a modern found footage thing we can get these days.

i remember hiking with a friend when he told me it reminded him of that movie that was coming out he had heard about it and he basically convinced me it was real, early days of the internet and i was young i even remember my uncle basically thinking blaire witch project was real before it came out, like it was controversial they were going to put this found video camera stuff out in theaters, you just cant build that hype anymore, not for anything main stream and everything online people are predisposed to assume its fake first and foremost. didnt used to be like that.

>>86668113
it's totally predictable and the plot really suffers from it. they could have done so much more with the depression/paranoia aspects but they didn't and it ends up being a generic slasher movie by the time shit starts getting real. I liked the ending but the fact they can't find a single door leading outside when shits getting real and suddenly the just walkout side kind of killed any immersion I had, and i'm not even one to notice these type of autistic flaws in a movie. LMG is an underrated actor though.

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>>86667436

why does this shit always get mentioned? Just because its foreign its good? Ive seen it in theater and it was just a run of the mill zombie movie with walking dead-tier cgi. Nothing out of the ordinary, or any big plot twists

get out needs to be mentioned more.
>inb4 itt-nigger
it's a solid movie. I'd be hesitant to call it horror, but it's a very creepy and well-directed movie that I loved. The plot was original and everything was just fresh about it. Given that this was produced by a young director, it's a masterpiece.

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>>86665975
it follows had some amazing shots, but fuckign terrible acting, terrible pacing, terrible logic

>>86666448
Same here, I instantly thought of the Evil Dead movies at that part.

>>86665819
>Why are modern horror films so shitty?

Because reality has gotten so bad that movies can't scare us anymore.

>>86668477
nearly every movie in this thread is a generic run of the mill horror movie though, none of these movies are doing something 'out of the ordinary' or have any real 'plot twists' besides maybe Get Out, and that's more of a black comedy over horror anyways. Horror fans sure are picky for a bunch of plebs unironically enjoying mass produced ghost/demon movies

>>86665819
Southbound was decent

>>86668481

yeah its base concept of the fear of (this is going to sound stupid with the movie title) some one following you, yielded some really freaky shots but beyond that i still think the theme was way too heavy handed. bad acting i can deal with in horror, its a staple of the genre at this point, but stupid plot logic is unforgivable especially when the concept is simple enough the plot shouldnt be difficult to execute.

>>86667930
That logic doesnt entirely hold up, since we still find movies like The Thing to be good despite being desensitized to gore and guts. A lot of higher budget modern horror just doesnt seem to want to fully commit to its horror, and ends up just falling flat, feeling too familiar, too vanilla, like we've seen this over and over. I do think there are quite a few horror movies out now that, while they are not ground breaking, are still fun horror movies.

>>86668218
agreed
it was very good.

it follows was dog shit.

>>86666706
Yee not a bad flick

>>86668596
>its a staple of the genre at this point
na

>>86668549

the babaMOOCH
the TTrump
steve bannabelle creation

art imitates life but we've all faced these monsters already i suppose..

>>86668240
No it's a movie that wasn't in theaters. I remember them bragging about making it practical effects heavy.

>>86668480
lol no
>body swapping original
>mixed race original
>38 young
>masterpiece

fuck outta here

>>86668596
It Follows is a normalfag version of Marble Hornets

>>86668793
What ever happened to Marble Hornets

>>86665882
It wasnt scary at all or even dreadfull

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>tfw you always know it's coming but the jump scare and scare chords still get you

>>86668752
Sounds like The Void

Out of the Shadows was great

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>>86668752
I'm 90% sure you're talking about this, and if you are it was fucking garbage.

>>86668807
I heard they finished it, but I fell out of watching it when the time between video releases became months. I'll have to watch it all some day. It's too bad every faggot tried copying them and ruined Slender Man.

>>86668770
>>body swapping original
in this case, they have a really unique take on how the body swapping is done.
>>38 young
I mean he's a young director, meaning this is his first major motion picture.

>>86668596
>bad acting i can deal with in horror, its a staple of the genre at this point
this is why we will never get true horror kino, because retards like this are fine with eating shit.

>>86668831
>always watch movie with sister
>both are big fans of horror films
>jump scares don't scare me anymore
>they do scare her
>always tell her "Don't scream, there's a jump scare coming"
>she still gets scared and screams every time

Conjuring was okay. Conjuring 2 was like if an anime director made a horror movie.

>>86668931
>when you're unphased by the movie but the person beside you gets scared and that scares you

>>86668931
do you cuddle with her when she's scared like a good brother?

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>>86668937
I didnt hate Conjuring 2, but what the fuck was the deal with The Crooked Man? Was it just a trick by the Nun demon? I heard that The Crooked Man is supposedly getting its own movie

>>86665819
Actually, in recent years there have a significant number of good horror movies and some are even iconic.
It follows is iconic and a future cult movie. The VVitch is close to being a masterpiece. The Conjuring 1and2 are really good at building scares. Mr Babadook and VHS 2 are good and quite original. A girl walks alone at night and Resolution are also great. Sinister is decent.
I don't know if this is bait or if you're just a faggot who have only seen the Conjuring 2 in SD on your shitty laptop and thought it wasn't scary.

>>86668874
dont get me wrong good flick fun to watch but the way people talk you would think its better than the thing or the exorcist

>>86668971
Man don't even tell me about it, she gets all weird when I try to hug her or something.

>>86668436
pretty much, the time for found footage movies has come and gone in the modern era because of how quickly information travels. I bet that shit would still scare the hell out of third worlders with zero access to the internet though.

>>86667656
>>86667764
>>86667962

i was trolling. it's terrible.

it got shilled her so much it's laughable how bad it turned out to be.

>>86669480
It's not even bad, it just turned into a meme to call it the best horror movie ever, so people reacted by calling it absolute shit. In the end the movie was just okay.

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>>86665819
It's ok. Jeepers Creepers 3 will save us !

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>>86665819

Extinction was pretty good, but it didn't get many good reviews because it wasn't scary. Still worth a watch.

>>86667385
> i would've liked it better if they implied more that it was mental, seemed like they were leaning more towards that it was legit supernatural
Agreed, Babadook was frightening because it was relatable. Anyone with an untreated trauma could start seeing monsters and become "possessed" by them and that's a really scary thought. Babadook was fucking terrifying up until the end when they kinda threw the psychological aspect out the window and made it about a supernatural boogeyman. However it didn't ruin the movie, it was still scary as shit to me.

But yeah modern horror films seem to take either the 3edgy4u or jump scare route. Thank god at least the found footage films seem to be dying off. I'm guessing that the movie makers see the horror genre as something only kids like so they just produce the same "attractive people getting fucked up by ghosts/serial killers - A TRUE STORY!!!!111" a million times. Alternatively they try to one up each other with gorey stuff which gets boring as shit since it's not creative and 100% CGI makes it look faker than practical effects.

>>86665882
Wasn't very good.

Revealed the vvitch way too early. Sucked all tension out of the film. Ending was the only good bit.

>>86669026
>dat screencap
you sure this isn't a comedy?

>>86669558
Oh fuck dude, I've been trying to remember what the name of this movie was for a while now, I saw a commercial for it and thought it looked pretty good but never saw anything else for it

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>>86669026

>>86669717
Yes I know about that one, but I heard it's getting its own 'Conjuring Universe' movie

I curse the day I followed /tv/'s pleb advice and watched Session 9 and It Follows

>>86668477
Because it's actually a good movie with good characters held up by good performances? It's sure as hell better than most of the other movies mentioned here.

>>86669678

It's a good flick, I was pleasantly surprised by it.

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I liked Bone Tomahawk. It's a slow burner but holy shit the ending is intense. Probably one of the only horror films released within the last 5 years that wasn't based around the paranormal.

>>86668466
I mean yeah it was obvious that SOMETHING was gonna happen but I still really enjoyed the attention, you could easily imagine yourself in the main guy's position. And while it's a classic method of explaining a plot hole, they do show that the guy who owns the house has locked everything up prior to the dinner, so their escape wasn't gonna be that easy. And you have to keep in mind that when all hell broke loose the surviving guests still thought their loved ones/friends could be alive somewhere, so they wouldn't just leave.

And I liked the ending a lot - I actually live in LA and highly mistrust people in the entertainment industry, so I love it when films play with that and allude to evilness in Hollywood.

I liked Lights Out.

>>86669825
I normally hate any and all genre mashups but this one was legit awesome

>>86669026
I've never seen Conjuring 2 since the first one was so generic. The Crooked Man seems fucking spooky in the video I found. Is he only in 2 scenes? He seems like something straight out of a creepypasta. I'd rather see a movie about him than a haunted doll.

>>86669717

>Michael Jai White

Oh shit, nigga, does he drop kick that spook?

>>86669878
Yeah, I'll admit he wasnt an awful monster, but he was completely out of place in the movie, and had no reason to be there, he was just some monster that popped up once half way through to fuck with people and then once again around the finale, it's never even fucking addressed.

>>86669898
sarcastically, he does

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>>86665819
Am I the only one that got a bit spooked while watching Arrival? The music and atmosphere it had in the first act before they met the Aliens was so very well done.

Too much cgi. Older horror movies had to try way harder to be convincing, now you just take an older woman make her look creepy and turn the volume from low up to max followed by a cg effect. Horror movies just need to focus more on an unsettling atmosphere rather than the monster/demon/ghost itself.

>>86665819
You mean slashers. The horros genre is fine, I would go as far as saying is has a new renessance with masterpieces like The VVitch, I Follows and Babadook.

>>86670110
It Follows was not that good.

>>86669848
I'm glad they didn't try to make it too much like a Western film. The film would be shit if it was about transporting cattle, robbing a train or having Mexican Standoffs.

>>86668477
>ya know what makes a movie good?
>plot twists

Hi Shyamalan.

>>86670045
>Older horror movies had to try way harder to be convincing
Nope it's the same lazy jumpscare silly nonsense except instead of using CGI they used even shittier claymation and other corny practical effects like long rubber arms while your real arms are under the monster's sweater and showerheads extending out of the wall. Never subtle or respectable or any other pretentious nonsense you spew.

>>86666372
Oh man 6.8 on VVitch?
This is the last nail in IMDB coffin, absolutely fuck it.

>>86665819
I just watched train to busan and that was pretty good

>>86666560
I thought it was cute.

>>86666706
From the distinguished WWE Films

>>86669788

What was so special about their performances? Unless you speak korean you can't even tell if their delivery was good. And the story wasn't special either. Don't get me wrong I enjoyed it, but everytime somebody defends this movie its always "hurr hollywood sucks, asian horror is better". I even think I liked Annabelle Creation more then this.

>>86668218
if you think It Follows was about STDs, you're a pathetic brainlet

>>86669532
It comes out next month yet there are no official trailers or posters. That's actually pretty kino. I haven't heard about it being straight to video though so it'll probably get spoiled before I get a chance to watch it. Isn't it only doing a limited theater run?

>>86666560
>go to see The Conjuring 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpIhcSp1QjA

>>86669567
>until the end when they kinda threw the psychological aspect out the window and made it about a supernatural boogeyman
but they didn't

>>86669184
>anon take some pictures of sis on the low
>anon posts joy on /b/ wincest threads on a regular
>sisters panties come up missing often
>panties that aren't missing are often stretched out as if someone who is bigger is play dress up with them
>dogo keeps stealing sisters panty liners from the trash and is hiding them because they are never seen again
>mom and dad keep telling sister that anon is just going through an awkward period and will be better soon

>anon wonders why sister gets all weird when he tries to hug her while they watch movies together

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>>86669532
holy shit what

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desu the only type of horror movies worth watching and are truly scary are ones about the evils of man because they're grounded in reality. The Thing and Rosemarys Baby are two perfect examples of this. while spooky demon and shape shifting alien are clearly the main villains, the fact that a lot of the horror and dread comes from the fact you can't even trust a fellow human in a time of supernatural occurrences is always going to be more horrifying over some dumb ass gay ghost shit more than half of the people in this thread are talking about. It's the reason The VVitch was also pure kino and one of the biggest reasons i'm looking forward to mother! you plebs can stick to your conjurings and jump scares, i'll keep watching pure kino.

>>86670443
your logic falls flat because The Thing prequel was shit

>>86665819
I liked the first 70 minutes of Conjuring 2 because it was very close to real life case the movie is based on. The last 30 minutes was absolute make belief crap.

Funny how in the movie they made the mother younger and sexier than what she was in real life. In real life she was a fat ugly old hag. They also made the boy less retarded.

>>86670510
>they made the mother younger and sexier than what she was in real life. In real life she was a fat ugly old hag
is this not almost always the case with 'based on a true story' type shit

>>86670471
the thing prequel has nothing in common with the remake in terms of trust and paranoia issues

>horror 'fan' can't even see basic plot points
lol, stick to your spooky demon flicks pleb

Was the Antichrist a horror?

>>86670715
yes

>>86670715
Yes and it also told us how hung Willem Dafoe is

>>86670807
>told us how hung Willem Dafoe is
Truly this is horror.

>>86665819
because directors concern themselves with cheap thrills, jump scares, and sub par creature or monster designs with low budgets.

none are really ambitious or understand how to truly make an audience truly terrified with atmosphere.

>>86667081
I can't pinpoint exactly why, but the Conjuring and Insidious series to me feel like completely mediocre horror movies.
It would be wrong to call them style over substance, but at the same time the 'horror' feels artificial and doesn't scare or interest me.
The one thing I like about the series is its portrayal of family.
I liked Dead Silence more.

>>86670356
tell me more

>>86667016

It was really a 4/10, props and effects were great but didn't that wasn't enough to save the movie.

I feel pretty hyped for the "IT" reboot. Not getting my hopes too high tho, but still hyped.

>>86666380
Both Conjuring films heavily suffer from a badly defined threat. A threat in a horror film should behave in a certain way and have a concise set of powers. This makes it possible for the characters to explore them and try to come up with defenses and solutions.

The antagonists in the conjuring films are just some standard demon and poltergeist powers thrown together without any limitations or reasoning. The antagonists are able to do whatever is needed for the next spooky scene. Such a setup takes away the agency of the characters. They are reduced to pure playthings for the quasi-omnipotent antagonist. There is no reason for the audience to get invested and to be on the edge of their seat, because nothing the characters do matters.

There is a reason why many of the classic horror movies feature antagonists built around specific rulesets. Like Freddie Kruger or Jason.

>>86670807
that was a porn actor obviously
Lars von Trier has used porn actors for explicit scenes many times before

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>>86666440

>>86665819
When was the Poughkeepsie tapes made? Watched it last week and one of those movies which stays with you

>>86672135
I don't think it's a problem with their powers.
They're fighting demons and ghosts which are notorious in being less defined in terms of power. See Ringu or The Woman in Black. In both cases the ghosts are near omnipotent and simply can't be stopped by any means, which makes them so terrifying.

I think you're right about badly defined threat though, as in it feels like they just put a bunch of 'spooky' stuff together that don't have fleshed out backstories or reasons. Like the nun and the crooked man have flimsy backstories if at all and feel just like filling in a quota.

>>86669717
Ridiculously bad poster.

>>86672643
Yes. I think you are right. Almost omnipotent monsters can be done right. I wanted to express, that a very important part of a horror film (for me), and to a certain extent any genre, is exploring the mythology and rules of it. I love supernatural horror movies, because I can slowly discover how the threat "ticks" and imagine how I would come up with ways to deal with it.

Which makes the Conjuring films and similar works very frustrating to me, since everything seems so thrown together, without any kind of consistency.

>>86665882
the best

>>86665819
Niche genre. They're not good money, and they're not some great works of art (unless mixed with other genres). Making them good is actually hard, and the feeling of being spookd is only lasting so much.

That's said, I think we had some really good movies lately: it follows, conjuring, sinister. Feels like a rise.

>>86665819
People are running put of ideas, and studios are getting lazier in general.

>>86665819
because horror movies are a shitty sub genre to begin with, it was always shit.

old horror movies aren't scary in any way, the only time i got remotely scared from an old horror movie was in the first alien.
at least new horror movies give you a good spook

>>86673298
Try the original Woman in Black.

Wife wants to watch Annabelle creation, thoughts on the movie?

>>86673352
Too many jumpscares, but not bad, way better than the first.

>>86665882
this movie sucked.

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kek

It Comes At Night was a shitty horror film, but it was a fantastic family drama/thriller.

>>86673352
Better than the first, not as good as The Conjuring movies. I saw it for free and I enjoyed it.

>>86673792
Never saw the first. Can I enjoy this?

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It's not really a horror film but nothing has affected me lately as much as Snowtown did

>>86673579
t. james wan superfan

>>86673917
Yes except you'll say wtf at the last 2 minutes but if you watch the first Annabelle when you get home it'll make sense.

>>86673652
moar

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>>86667777
>THE MAGIC WAS IN YOU ALL ALONG
I heckin died.

>/tv/ is a place that praises garbage like VVitch and the Void
No wonder everyone hates 4chan

Inside
Observance
The borderlands
The honeymoon
Creep
Absentia
They look like people

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it's just same, boring tropes all over again:
>doors self-closing
>demon with long mouth
>haunted house
>a hand of something dragging a woman
>pronoun games
>found footage

>>86665882

This is another Drive meme.

Watched it with some bitch both in theaters and I fell asleep. Don't waste your time. But newfags and normies might like it.

>>86665819

Here's one that you faggots will call be a faggot over but you can fag off because I was pleasantly surprised: Unfriended. I thought it was going to be utterly terrible but it's actually quite well done.

are there any decent modern horrors that are not 90% of the time just jumpscares ?

>>86669152

>The VVitch is close to being a masterpiece

I will never understand why you guys rave about it so much. It was a beautifully shot snorefest. Impossible to give much of a crap about the characters but it hardly matters since next to nothing ever actually happens till the end. Any tension I felt dissipated during the long stretches of nothing.

If you actually spell The Witch with two V's, you are fucking retarded. Keep stylized names to the poster idiots.

>>86665975
It Follows had some good tension but wasnt really that "Horror". A Large majority of it just made me wish I was a carefree teen again.

>>86666006
Conjuring movies are predictable ass. Nobody ever dies in those shitty movies and the jumpscares can be detected from a mile away. Like none of the kids are ever gonna die nor are the main characters the Edd and Lourain so whats even the point of watching it aside from the braindead jumpscares they already showed in the trailers.

>>86666250
Babadook had some creepy moments but it was WAYY to fucking obvious that it was all in the mothers psyche. Some cool visuals but was mostly boring as shit and infuriating that any kid could be that much of a shithead (speaking of which is another reason I couldnt care about the movie. Because the kid was such a shithead it was a win/win no matter what happened to him)

VVitch was actually interesting but fell apart at the ending imo where everyone just unceremoniously dies or vanishes without explanation (like the twins in the barn). I was actually laughing at the thought of satan tempting someone with fucking butter and dancing. At least that one kid had some /ss/ before he died in pain.

>>86666440
(you)

>>86666706
Legit awful flick. There are countless different ways to break a mirror from a distance but it never occurs to these two dumbasses. Hilariously awful ending with some silly special effects. The only memorable part was the Apple/Lightbulb scene.

>>86667016
Mostly just disgusting gore and DUDE LOVECRAFT.

>>86674552
>the crackhead that jumpscares Jamal into randomnly falling to his death
>that one guy who just stands around like a retard until he randomly attacks and kills that girl
>the guy that gets pulled into the car and stuck upside down out of the dirt
>the random "Satan" in the black hood just chilling in that wooden chair for no reason at all and then just kinda starts walking after them
>random wallzombie attacks them for no reason

lol flick

iconic horror movies always sucked. The Conjuring movies are about on the level of dreck like Halloween and Friday the 13th, and given their wild success they're going to be seen as such in the future.

>>86676087
It's genuinely original and unique. Beautifully shot, well acted and with great music.

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>>86666440

>>86676417

I will always stand with the "beautifully shot" statement - it was.

But original? Family molested by evil being? Or the use of old language?

Well acted? Competetly acted maybe but nothing outstanding, chiefly because no-one had to DO much till the last 15 minutes.

Music I'll concede too on retrospect.

>>86666417
I liked Don't Breathe and the first Sinister. Sinister 2 felt wildly unnecessary

>>86676534
>accurate historical setting
>old language
>basically an old folktale
It's pretty original.

>>86676534
What is an original film then?

>>86665819
Because only the Nips can do horror right. Try to prove me wrong if you like, but you can't.

>>86676842
>do horror right
Which means?

>>86670443
>jennifer lawrence
>pure kino

>>86676762

And a very boring one with no moral or warning by the end. (in my opinion)

>>86676762

I didn't make the claim

>>86670256
Mostly just because of how incompetent World War Z was, since this feel like it borrowed a lot from it. Made it look easy and did it wayyy better, and yes you can tell when an actor is putting out a good performance even if you can't speak the language, maybe you can't fully criticise it, but you can get an idea of good performance.

>>86667081
>2 has like 3 jump scares in total
Maybe other modern horror movies are worse, I barely watch them. But I felt there were tons of jump scares in Conjuring 2. It all worked the same way, something is quiet, slow camera move toward a thing, a low bass tone sets in, bass tone pauses, JUMP SCARE!

>>86677035
>But I felt there were tons of jump scares in Conjuring 2
well you're wrong. There really are only a handful at most in a 2 hour movie that sets up dread pretty well throughout

>>86666448
Yeah, I was having a pretty good time until that scene. Actually made my roll my eyes.

>>86666706
agree - enjoy your (you)

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>>86665819

>>86677819
Criminally underrated movie. If it came out in the 80s it would be a classic.

>>86676964
They can actually make something scary that settles in your mind for days instead of being forgotten once the screen is off

>>86678017
Not really.

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>>86665819
>Why are modern horror films so shitty?
LOUD MUSIC
LOUD NOISES
JUMPSCARES
HEY, DON'T LOOK AT YOUR PHONE DUDE, CHECK OUT THIS SUPER SCARY SCENE THAT'S COMING UP, READY? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH OOGA BOOGA

>>86678017
the only movie that did what you describe to me was Salò, or the 120 Days of Sodom.
My favorite modern horror is Martyrs (2008)

>>86678176
Not everything they produce is good of course, but they can do it consistently well in everything from movies, video games and anime.

>>86665975
It Follows Yes, not the other. Id also say Conjuring 1 was great too on the same level. Nothing else comes to mind as super mainstream horror that was actually great.

>>86678328
Salo is good, but when it comes to the supernatural realm, most Western films I find lacking.

>>86667902
Shin godzilla was terrifying in both in his design and how much destruction he caused. I liked it so much then the campy showa godzillas and the 14 one as how realistic they made it.

>>86665975
>Le sex ghost movie

Lol this was basically just an episode of Walking Dead

>>86676312
>Hey look at me, I complain about all movies

>>86670443
>the only type of horror movies worth watching and are truly scary are ones about the evils of man because they're grounded in reality
I disagree 100%. Anything that is grounded in reality, containing zero supernatural elements, is boring as fuck to me. I feel like you have to be pretty fucking sheltered and naive to find regular human shit scary. Like "ooo wow look at what people are capable of! So spooky!" We all know humans are capable of fucked up, disturbing shit, but the fact that it happens every day around the world kind of ruins the scariness.

Real spooks are had from things that we either don't understand or can't explain. The scariest thing in the world is the unknown.

>>86665819
Horror doesn't have to be high bar to make money.

In fact the more pleb friendly and jump scare heavy, the more likely it is to make money.

>>86670807
>>86672244
I've heard Trier wanted to use a bodydouble for Dafoe because Dafoe was actually too hung, and it would've made "that scene" too comedic. Not sure how true that is, though.

>>86666411
>The Innkeepers
It's great

Wait a few weeks for IT
Might be the first horror movie to win Best Picture.

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I guess this is more thriller than horror, still liked it

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Two of the best horror films of all time came out this year;
Thelma
The Killing of a Sacred Deer

>inb4 can't read subtitles

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This scared the shit out of me

>>86677819
Great and fun christmas horror tbqh

"scary" horror movies are dead and have been since the 80s

Campy horror anthologies are the new kino

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>Leave horror to me

>>86665975
Is It Cums At Night good?

>>86677819
Krampus the Reckoning is better

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>>86679908
Man this was awesome.Taps into the most patrician phobias (fear of dentists, water, old people, cults) with some legit horrific disturbing imagery and not a single jumpscare, slasher or ghost. Also some of the most beautiful camera work and set design of the 2010s.
Absolut KINO

>>86679124
its true, there is old footage on the web of Dafoe nude on stage. past his knee

Lake Mungo?

>>86665819
Blame screamers, and fuck the first movie who was a pioneer in using them

>>86680117
Just watched it. It's not that big. Slightly above average, I'd say.

>>86675978
>he thinks he isnt the normie in this equation

>>86679704
This was a fucking good one, but why in the hell are there so many shitstains who post "spoiler" pics like this from horror films? Why do so many people on here think this is acceptable? You are ruining the fucking movie for people who haven't seen it. That image was a pretty huge surprise, and all the people who haven't seen the film will now know it's coming. You are robbing them of the full experience.
Go lick your dad's shitty asshole.

Is "The Guest" classified as a horror movie?

Watched it yesterday, was surprisingly good.

>>86680538
this bugs the shit out of me too. like you are simultaneously recommending and spoiling a movie. how goddamn retarded can you be

Thoughts on Alien: Covenant for those who have seen it?

What's the spoopiest movie you guys have seen? For me it's still Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

>>86668576
I too liked this

>>86681315
>Sixth Sense the first time I watched it, about 9-10 years old

>REC 1 the first time I watched it 6 years ago, 16 years old.

I miss the teenage feeling when some movies could still disgust or scare me to a decent degree.

>>86665819
Tangentially related but where can I find a torrent of It Comes at Night?

I see nothing on Pirate Bay, Putlocker, Sockshare etc

>>86681817
you can't

>>86681817
It Comes at Night is supposed to get a bluray release on Sep. 12.
The scene or private trackers might get a BD copy a few days sooner, but I don't think they have already.

>>86681984
>>86682067
Thanks for the info :)

>>86681315
Child's Play, and The Ring. I was a little kid when I saw them, though. But nothing scared me as much as those two did back then.

>>86665819
its just scary scenes without any interesting content or characters
but there are lots of bad old horror films as well, horror genre has always been full of shit with few shining gems

The VVitch was pretty meh, doesnt manage to engage and you almost wish the family dead by the end of it. 6/10
It Follows had a cool concept, but fell through on the execution, at least in the second half of the movie where it turns almost comical. 6/10
The Conjuring was fun and entertaining, wasnt scary though. 7/10 (Conjuring 2 was shit. 4/10)
The only thing scary in Badabook was the kid. 5/10
A Field in England was interesting enough, some really well executed eerie scenes but they are few and far between, not really a horror movie. Good performances 7/10
Kill List got major pacing issues but really picks up the pace at the end, but the twist is really obvious, 6/10
The Innkeepers, sort of a oddball. Goes for a slow pace but doesnt manage to build up any atmosphere with all that time. Slightly entertaining 6/10
Dont Breathe drags on way to long, but the execution and concept is pretty good. 7/10
Sinister relies to much on youtube style jumpscares to really engage. Predictable and stupid plot twist at the end. 5/10

Been a pretty shit decade for horror even though horror do well on the box office.

Horror had had a better strike rate this past decade than most genres

>>86668481
>terrible logic

Brainlet detected. Way to completely miss the point of the monster and it's role in the narrative.

This is why It Follows, despite being a flawed movie, is such a good pleb filter. Disregard the opinions of anyone who looks at "It" too literally and uses it as a reason to shit on the movie, as opposed to any of it's actual issues.

>>86682704

This. I've become so tired of calling people out for saying stupid shit like

>WHY COULDN'T SHE JUST GET ON A PLANE TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD
>WHY COULDN'T SHE JUST FUCK A PROSTITUTE AND THEN IT WOULD NEVER COME BACK TO HER
>WHY COULDN'T THEY TRAP THE MONSTER
>THE ENDING SUCKS I DON'T GET IT

in like every single thread about this movie that I've given up trying. Especially after it hit Netflix, which brought in a whole new wave of stupid normalfags.

I've simply come to accept that the vast majority of viewers are too stupid to understand that the monster serves as a metaphor, and functions under a sort of dream logic akin to something like Nightmare on Elm Street or The Shining. Even though it's blatantly telegraphed to the viewer and incredibly obvious to anyone that's actually paying attention to the story.

>>86682934
is about parents apurrently

>>86683207
Despite it's minor problems, it's one of those movies that can be analyzed and interpreted in many different ways. That's something that's usually the mark of a good movie imo. It makes it a fun one to discuss and debate about, even years after release.

Personally, I like the sexual trauma angle.

It's actually a pretty good decade for horror movies. Mainstream horror movies are quite fun (The Conjuring series), "indie" horror movies transcend its genre.
I don't understand why everyone complains. How are modern horrors worse than 80s slashers or torture porn garbage like Saw?

>>86666448
I laughed when the daughter got raped by the car

>>86666706
I loved this movie, spooked the fuck out of me with all the misdirection. Especially the flashback scenes

>>86680725
Alien isnt Horror

its action survival same as Predator movies.

Aliens are not a scary design anymore since youve seen them so much

>>86683772
The "action" is 99% just people running for their lives and / or getting snuffed out. Prometheus and Alien Covenant are definitely horror movies

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>>86665819
The problem isn't horror movies, it's the fans. Most of them are plebs that only watch whatever the latest mainstream movie is, usually some Blumhouse crap. That's why 90% of the ones you hear about are fucking garbage. Occasionally you'll get a good or at least mildly interesting one that goes viral and hits meme status like the Babadook, It Follows, or The VVitch, but those are rare.

Most of the little hidden gems fly under the radar, relegated to festival circuits or straight to VOD. You have to actively go out of your way to look for them, since they receive very little in the way of marketing. This little bit of extra efforts keeps casuals away, which is unfortunate because they're missing out on a lot of great titles.

>>86677819
literally the worst movie I have ever watched in my life

>>86684313
This and Attack the Block are probably the worst shit I've ever watched in my 23 years on this planet.

>>86684313
You should watch more movies.

I really liked Sinister but I know a lot of people didn't. Ethan Hawke is a fantastic actor

it sort of has an identity crisis in that it rides a very fine line between pure-horror (which it mostly is) and horror-comedy - something that most people cannot appreciate and just see as bad / campy / cliche writing in a movie that seems like it's supposed to be all-serious.

>>86667385
>>86667644
>>86676312
That's not you respond on message boards you fuck

>>86665819
I am not a horror fan at all, but i highly enjoyed the 2 conjuring movies, the vvitch, sinister and before i wake..off the top of my head. Conjuring movies stand out by far though, really fun to watch

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>>86670279
Nah, that's the official poster...the only offical poster. And yes, it might get a small theatrical run and the go to VOD...I'm trying to be optimistic...we'll see

>>86670366
Yeah, Jeepers Creepers 3 comes out this year. It's done filming. They're just figuring out where and when to release it.

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>>86667644
PRAISE THE SUN

That shit was good mane

>>86684313
>>86684416
Watch more movies you reddit scum

>>86669848
Western horror would be fucking great but I get why it would be so hard for people to get it or do it right.

I'd love to see a horror movie set in the stone age but I know that neither the studios nor the audience would take it seriously.

>>86670005
The atmosphere when she actually goes in and gets close to them was pretty great really, but I wasn't spooked by the movie at all. That could have been well utilized in a horror though.

>>86685458
>I am not a horror fan at all, but i highly enjoyed the 2 conjuring movies
surprise surprise

>>86670203
t. numale brainlet

>>86685719
what can i say, i genuinely enjoyed the camera work, acting, sound and visual effects. I don't get spooked at horror movies.

>>86665819
It Follows
It Comes at Night
They Look Like People
We Are Still Here
The Witch
Baskin
Starry Eyes
Honeymoon

There have been plenty of good horror movies in the last few years. You're just too lazy to find them.

>>86676187
Fuck off you faggot.

>>86685838
are all of those really good man? Some look low-budget and dull, from trailers and pics...i need to know before i sink time into that list

I got two recs.
We Go On
>Good movie about a dude who goes on a journey to find existence of life after death. Genuinely beautiful at times, not especially scary.
Savageland
>And entire town in bumfuck nowhere is murdered overnight and one man is blamed for it. It just so happens that the guy takes photos as a hobby and he recorded the whole night in photographs. 100% genuine spooks await here.

>>86686838
Oh yeah, I forgot
Borderland/Final Prayer
>A team from the Vatican goes to investigate a supposed miracle at a church in a small town. They discover whatever caused the disturbance might not be in the church but a part of the church itself.
WNUF Halloween Special
>Just watch it, it's really witty and funny. The ending is a bit of a cop out but enjoyable all the same.
Les Documents Interdits
>Classic, a bunch of horror/sci-fi shorts out together. Very imaginitive and a few actually managed to spook me good. Good for eternal re-watches. It sucks not many people know these shorts.

>>86676500
>not pepe under the hood

>>86665819
I agree but I liked Conjuring & Insidious